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Speaker 3: talk about a mental It was. It was hard. It

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Speaker 3: was not a not a pleasant experience. And I've never

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Speaker 3: done you know, I intermittent fasted for years, so sixteen

442
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Speaker 3: eight was pretty regular and easy. And once you hit

443
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Speaker 3: that twenty.

444
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Speaker 4: Four hour going to sleep hungry is hard.

445
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Speaker 3: That honestly, it really wasn't that bad. It was just

446
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Speaker 3: man all day long. I honestly I welcomed bed because

447
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Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking about it. Yeah, dude, it messed me up,

448
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Speaker 3: and I'm four or five days out of it, and

449
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Speaker 3: i cannot stop just eating food and I'm now like,

450
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Speaker 3: I see it, I eat it, you know, because like

451
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Speaker 3: at the time you're just looking at everything, you don't

452
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Speaker 3: realize how much food's around in the kids. And it

453
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Speaker 3: was definitely a different test for sure, you know.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing with fasting. For me.

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Speaker 1: I'll there was a good period of time where one

456
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Speaker 1: day a week I would do a twenty four hour

457
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Speaker 1: fast just because I was trying to lose weight and

458
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Speaker 1: I wanted to know what the discipline felt like to

459
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Speaker 1: hold myself back from eating, which again is a great

460
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Speaker 1: Biblical principle, but again way easier said.

461
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Speaker 3: Than done, way easier said than that.

462
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Speaker 1: But just like you, once that fast was done, boom,

463
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Speaker 1: I'm eating.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm going, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Going it's probably it's probably horse fast.

466
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Speaker 1: That's my thing is I look back and I think, wait,

467
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Speaker 1: was was that the whole point of the fastest lose practice,

468
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Speaker 1: discipline and lose weight.

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Speaker 3: Mine was not that way, but still, I just man,

470
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you. And then everything that i'd been like,

471
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Speaker 3: oh I'm gonna eat that when I get done I have,

472
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Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, I'm taking that. It's it was. It

473
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Speaker 3: was way more difficult. We did sixty hours. Wow, it

474
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Speaker 3: was Dodds did a what did you do a four days?

475
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Speaker 3: Four days? Yeah, seventy two seventy two, that's legit. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was twelve hours short of that, so you were

477
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Speaker 1: doing a lot of lower intensity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I started seven am on Thursday. So I

479
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Speaker 3: one of a long story short, one of our buddies

480
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Speaker 3: got it wrong and started Thursday, said he started Thursday.

481
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Speaker 3: So I was like, you know what I eat breakfast

482
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Speaker 3: that morning? I was like, I'll start now, So seven

483
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Speaker 3: am on Thursday. Turns out he ate at some point

484
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Speaker 3: and didn't tell me. So I eight. I swam twenty

485
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Speaker 3: four hundred of intervals because we're getting ready for that

486
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Speaker 3: try on in November. I did a five k that afternoon.

487
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Speaker 3: Kind of Thursday is like cardio aerobic stuff. And then Friday,

488
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Speaker 3: four and a half five mile run, walk, hit the trail,

489
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Speaker 3: hit the road or the driveway, just to like listen

490
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Speaker 3: to the full book of Matthew. That afternoon loaded up,

491
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Speaker 3: Oh midday, I did some deadlifts, some seated row just

492
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Speaker 3: some like not super heavy, but like, you know, let

493
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Speaker 3: my body know. Hey, we're not We're not gonna take

494
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Speaker 3: away muscle. We're just you know, so you know, you

495
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Speaker 3: get into the science of all that we're not that's

496
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Speaker 3: not the purpose of it. But then that afternoon a

497
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Speaker 3: rock with thirty pounds, three miles, listening to Mark. Morning

498
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Speaker 3: Saturday listen to Luke, ran another four and a half

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Speaker 3: five miles, And then that afternoon I did the ruck again.

500
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Speaker 3: And yeah, and that that evening I was like, I'm done.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious.

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Speaker 2: So you listened to the Gospels.

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Speaker 3: I listened to him at like one point seventy five

504
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Speaker 3: or two. Right around where I listen, I have well fast, Yeah, yeah,

505
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Speaker 3: you're not trying to rush. I'm not trying to rush

506
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Speaker 3: through it, but my brain I have to keep it

507
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Speaker 3: like listening. If I go slow, I'm checking out. Man.

508
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Speaker 3: You could easily let anyway once you listen to it too,

509
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Speaker 3: you notice they have slowed down whoever is reading it

510
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Speaker 3: at a one right, so one point five is probably

511
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Speaker 3: more like conversation pace. And then one point seven five

512
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Speaker 3: is so I did one point seven five. I usually

513
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Speaker 3: do too, but.

514
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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna be a little bit more

515
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Speaker 1: intentional and go at one point seven five for these

516
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Speaker 1: I'm curious. So when I what I've been doing a lot,

517
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Speaker 1: when I'm driving around and dropping the kids off to daycare,

518
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Speaker 1: going to the workout, whatever I'm doing, I'll throw on

519
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Speaker 1: a sermon and depending on what I'm doing or if

520
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go and do a run, there's certain

521
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Speaker 1: activities that I'm doing and based off the sermon what

522
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Speaker 1: I'm hearing, it's almost I'm taking your speed, yes, which

523
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Speaker 1: is so nice. But sometimes I'm also like, I'll listen

524
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Speaker 1: to the same sermon two and I'm pulling out different

525
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Speaker 1: things curious for you. Yes, I know that, because I

526
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Speaker 1: know that you've listened to the you've read the Bible

527
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Speaker 1: multiple times.

528
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Speaker 2: Was there anything within.

529
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Speaker 1: That fast that stuck out to you from you listening,

530
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Speaker 1: especially like in those moments where you're on you're on

531
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Speaker 1: your drive, all you're on your trail, and.

532
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean there were several during you know,

533
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Speaker 3: just different stories, different of the parables that like hit different,

534
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Speaker 3: and then you'd hear them repeat it in a different gospel,

535
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Speaker 3: and then you'd like pick up something that was different.

536
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Speaker 3: When I did the run, I listened to Covenant of War,

537
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Speaker 3: which is a historical fiction about David and his men.

538
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Speaker 3: It's the second book in the Line of War series.

539
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Speaker 3: And then I listened to a song of War. And

540
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Speaker 3: then when the morning happened, I switched over to worship

541
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Speaker 3: music and I had I didn't have headphones on. I

542
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Speaker 3: was just blaring it out of a fanny pack, And dude,

543
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Speaker 3: that was probably one of the coolest, like Sunrise listening

544
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Speaker 3: to worship music. Like I just I'm not a huge

545
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Speaker 3: Like I feel the closest in worship when I'm in

546
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Speaker 3: here in the barn blaring music if out in the

547
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Speaker 3: woods doing that, versus in a building. You know, I'm

548
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Speaker 3: of like, if transparent, we're usually showing up, granted we're

549
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Speaker 3: trying to get three kids to go to church, We're

550
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Speaker 3: usually showing up about one song left in worship and

551
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Speaker 3: then we're listening to sermon, right, and so not not good,

552
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Speaker 3: you know whatever, But I feel the closest in me

553
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Speaker 3: and my kids. Man, we've we listened to worship music

554
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Speaker 3: a lot, like it was awesome. We were coming home

555
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Speaker 3: the other night, me and Lakeland are just like jamming, yelling,

556
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Speaker 3: you know.

557
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Speaker 2: So you know he's got one of the best worship

558
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Speaker 2: albums is Judah.

559
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Speaker 3: Oh Judas. Stuff's great.

560
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Speaker 2: He's crushed it. One of the coolest things.

561
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Speaker 1: My my wife and I went to see him in

562
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Speaker 1: our hometown of Cleveland, Ohio, at the House of Blues,

563
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Speaker 1: and then we've listened to his music and then he

564
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Speaker 1: ended up being.

565
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Speaker 3: Uh Todd's neighbor.

566
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Speaker 2: We meet him.

567
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Speaker 1: He's a big sauna guy, and he we end up

568
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Speaker 1: becoming friends and then they invited us out to a

569
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Speaker 1: show and the show was so good. He's and now

570
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Speaker 1: my son and our and our daughter are all about Judah. Yeah,

571
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Speaker 1: it's it's amazing. But I know he's a cook feil guy.

572
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Speaker 3: He's in between us, older than you, but three or

573
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Speaker 3: four years younger. Yeah, so goos family for a long time.

574
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Speaker 3: But yeah, man, there's just yeah, you just pick up

575
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Speaker 3: on different things. Your brain is in a different spot.

576
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Speaker 3: But it was honestly doing those rocks. Doing those runs. Listen,

577
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Speaker 3: listen to the Gospels was the only time I didn't

578
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Speaker 3: think about food, you know, really, and so you're like,

579
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Speaker 3: you know, and I even tried in early on, I'm like,

580
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Speaker 3: goll d every time you think about food, prey. But yeah,

581
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Speaker 3: then you're literally praying all and you know, with three

582
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Speaker 3: young kids, every life is food. Man, they've got food

583
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Speaker 3: all the time. And yeah, you just it's crazy.

584
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Speaker 4: Early that's how good does water with electrolytes taste?

585
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Speaker 3: It did bring me back. I did black coffee water

586
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Speaker 3: and then electrolytes with no artificial sweeteners. So I had to, man,

587
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Speaker 3: I think with with the activity we had in there.

588
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Speaker 3: But I did not do anything other than I didn't. Like.

589
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Speaker 3: There was a couple of times there'd be a diet

590
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Speaker 3: coke somebody would have out and I'd be like, I

591
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Speaker 3: could do that, it has no calories. But I didn't

592
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Speaker 3: do it. And man, yeah it.

593
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Speaker 4: Was Yeah, the water electrolytes, even with no sweetener, they

594
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Speaker 4: is nice, like this is a tree.

595
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Speaker 3: I usually do two to three of those a day. Yeah,

596
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Speaker 3: I didn't. I tried not to every time I drank

597
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: water to have them in there, but man, I got

598
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Speaker 3: a couple. Uh, no flavor topos. Oh, I put electrolytes

599
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: in that just to give me a little like fizz.

600
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Speaker 3: You know that's good?

601
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Speaker 2: So good?

602
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

603
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Speaker 4: Would I am? Last time I did it fast, like

604
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Speaker 4: when you wake up, it feels like you almost feel refreshed,

605
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Speaker 4: like you you're hungry in the morning, but you're not

606
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Speaker 4: any more hungry you normally are them.

607
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Speaker 3: Honestly, from twenty four hours in through the sixty I

608
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Speaker 3: honestly did not get any hungrier. Yeah. Just it just

609
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Speaker 3: it's just you're just it's almost like the same intensity,

610
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Speaker 3: same pain. It's like it never got worse just doing

611
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Speaker 3: it longer. The twenty four hours after probably the second run. Yeah,

612
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: you're just in it. Twenty four hours.

613
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Speaker 2: Did you guys get hungry at all?

614
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Speaker 3: It's more than I probably never have. It sounds just

615
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Speaker 3: like stop, you know, and I'm like, what did I

616
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Speaker 3: just do that for? Or you know the best is

617
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Speaker 3: Hillary probably asked me five times each meal, what do

618
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Speaker 3: you want to do for lunch? Oh? Sorry, what do

619
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Speaker 3: you want to do for dinner? I really don't think

620
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: she was doing it on purpose, but then like one time,

621
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Speaker 3: so Saturday morning are like family ritual, I guess for

622
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Speaker 3: Easter is we do at my grandfather's house. We go

623
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Speaker 3: to his house and they do a little Easter rike

624
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: hunt for the kids. But we do breakfast and we're

625
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Speaker 3: pulling in and when my oldest go finally, I'm finally

626
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Speaker 3: we're here, I'm starving. Specific were saying that, I'm just like,

627
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: oh are you I'm from any I didn't say, you know,

628
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 3: you're trying the whole time not to be like bring

629
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Speaker 3: any attention to what you're doing, and you're just you know,

630
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: trying to be in it. But man, there were times

631
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: where you know, he's like, I wish you'd just eat.

632
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, get behind me, Satan.

633
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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the point of fasting though, Yeah, the things

634
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Speaker 1: that nobody talks about with fasting, it's the emotional side.

635
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Speaker 1: Oh man, just for you to be able to control

636
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Speaker 1: your energy, control your personality, the things that you want

637
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Speaker 1: to say that you.

638
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Speaker 3: Know you should know you shouldn't.

639
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Speaker 4: I heard someone say this quote. One says, can I

640
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Speaker 4: still be nice when I'm hungry? Like can you see it?

641
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: And you ask yourself, like when you're really hungry and

642
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 4: you do, I mean like you don't even notice it.

643
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Speaker 4: For like normally when you're hungry, you know, you just

644
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 4: snap quicker, Like it just happens a lot quicker. And

645
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 4: I tried to keep that like in the forefront of

646
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Speaker 4: my mind of like, can you be nice when you're

647
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Speaker 4: this hungry, like you get I mean, yeah, you can,

648
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Speaker 4: Like are you actually going to do it?

649
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 3: Though?

650
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 4: And it's not easy. It's not easy even if you start,

651
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Speaker 4: even if you're thinking about it all the time.

652
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Speaker 5: So I did my seventy two hour fast when I

653
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Speaker 5: first got here to Cookville, but my wife and kids

654
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Speaker 5: weren't here yet.

655
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Speaker 3: Oh you're lucky. So I did it as a bachelor. Yeah.

656
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 5: But I did this three day fast with my kids

657
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 5: and we traveled to Montana for Easter.

658
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: Oh geez, dude, do you guys fly? Yeah? We flew.

659
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 5: Oh okay, that by far was the hardest part of

660
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 5: this fast, was trying to stay patient with my wife

661
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 5: and kids.

662
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and then being on a plane when you're bored.

663
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: That was the hardest part. When you're bored, for you,

664
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: you don't realize how many times you're like, I'm just

665
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: gonna go get something. I'm bored, right, yeah. Oh, And

666
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: so I tried to fill our time with just anything

667
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: that was the runs and walks luckily, in which is

668
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: probably you know, a deflection on the whole thing.

669
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's good, that's good. But you used it

670
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: to like listen to the gospels, listening to the worship music. Yeah,

671
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: because I would I like you were saying, I would

672
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 4: just like realistic sermons that I liked, or i'd watch

673
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 4: other ones, and I just would like anytime, Yeah, like

674
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: you said, anytime you're hungry, you're like, try to pray

675
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 4: or I would try to fill it with, uh, fill

676
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 4: it with something biblical, Like I don't care what it is,

677
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do something biblical instead of just thinking about

678
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 4: I'm hungry. And the times you actually do like you said,

679
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 4: you you kind of zone out and you don't think

680
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 4: about it as much, and then you get back and

681
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 4: you're bored again. You're like, now I'm hungry.

682
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 5: Every time I got hungry, I would just talk to

683
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 5: God about it. Yeah, And this the natural conversation that

684
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 5: would come from that was legitimately the whole point of

685
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 5: the fast was to talk to God.

686
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 4: More.

687
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: Did you ever just sniff food kid's food when they

688
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: would order something. There was a couple of times and

689
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: I would just like we had a bunch of it

690
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 3: really was. We had a couple, uh, we had family

691
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: over and there's a ton of kids, and I'm like,

692
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: I'm not cooking, and so we ordered some pizzas and dude,

693
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: I just sat there with the box and it's crazy

694
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: like a crackhead, and you're like, okay, it gives you

695
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: like a little hits. It was weird.

696
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: I know a guy I didn't.

697
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: Actually eat, like chew his dessert but then spit it

698
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: back out when he's on the fast.

699
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: Come on, body takes in.

700
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not following for that.

701
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: You want to know way I would have swallowed it.

702
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: There's no I appreciate the discipline to a certain extent,

703
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: but there's also so lack of discipline to well.

704
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: The hardest part is got kids, because you know, food

705
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: left over. You're just like, I could eat the rest

706
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: of that waffle.

707
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: Right now, right now.

708
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: We got our whole family in Gatlinburg, and they want

709
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: One of our nieces just had her birthday, so she

710
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: got a cookie cake.

711
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, cookie cake.

712
00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

713
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: And I was alone with our our three month old

714
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: at the time, and the rest of the family got

715
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: nothing else to do. Dude, looking at that cookie It

716
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: was the I felt like the movie Heavyweights with Ben Stiller.

717
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: I was like, man, do I need restraint right now?

718
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: Or do I go all in on this cookie cake?

719
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's the greatest thing. And then I'm thinking,

720
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: all right, well, if I eat this now, I'm gonna

721
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 1: have to go run to go a little bit.

722
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh.

723
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: Saturday night for the family breakfast of the next morning,

724
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: I cooked three pounds of bacon's.

725
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: Amount of bacon thounds.

726
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: I had to just sit there, flip the bacon and

727
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: just getting popped with, you know, on the flat.

728
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: Top, so good and your clothes Bacon's time.

729
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my low point in that point.

730
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 5: You did that Saturday morning.

731
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: I did that Friday afternoon. And then you know, since

732
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: we were doing the sixty, you know, I'm like, do

733
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: I do the full? Do I do seventy two? And

734
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: like whatever, And so we went to watch Mario with

735
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: the kids.

736
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: It's pretty galling.

737
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: It's a first one's better Ridskin and I say that

738
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: I gotta go back and watch it. I could not

739
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: concentrate because at that point I'm like, all right, everybody

740
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: else is doing sixty. I could be done at sixty

741
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: Where could I go at seventy two? The movie was

742
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: at four thirty, so it's gonna be over about six thirty.

743
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, by the time I get home, I could

744
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: start eating. So I'm grocking it. I'm like, all right, hey,

745
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: what's the difference between a sixty hour fast and a

746
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: seventy and two hour fast. It's like, well, blah blah blah,

747
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: you can go. You know, you get this benefit, this

748
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: benefit because at this point, I'm like, all right, the

749
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: spiritual side of it's done. Like I've done my, I

750
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: did my I finished John. Now I'm like, all right, physiologically,

751
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 3: what advantage am I gaining? So it's like twelve hours

752
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: it's pretty there's a you know, there could be a

753
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: pretty good you know with deep ketosis and inflammation and

754
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: all this other stuff and your cell regeneration. So I said, okay, cool,

755
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: what if I did? And I wrote down all the

756
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: fitness I did and at the different markers, and it

757
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: was like, well, with this amount of fitness, the twelve

758
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: hours is pretty negligible because you've gotten into deep eyes.

759
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: I got it done.

760
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so in my mind, I'm not even watching

761
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: this movie. I'm literally, I'm grocking all. I'm talking to

762
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: gro justifying me quitting this fast at sixty hours, because

763
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: that's what I said I was gonna do. Like I

764
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: was not gonna quit before that. You just need that

765
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: one piece. And I was done. And so I got

766
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: home and man, I there was like Tommy's wife had

767
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: brought sourdough, and sourdough had just been sitting on the

768
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: counter all weekend, the rice crispy treats whatever, and I'm

769
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 3: like soured. I made a I don't know why we

770
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: call them Egyptian eyes with the eggs in the basket,

771
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: eggs and toast. Basically I made like three of those

772
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: Hillary had made for the next day, some like balsamic vinaigrette,

773
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: Penny pasta with chicken and sun dried tomatoes. Hammered that,

774
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: and then we were stuffing eggs, so kit kats and

775
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: recess were gone. Dude, I made.

776
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: Myself sick, but I was just not that. Did you

777
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: feel more miserable?

778
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: No, I for a little bit. I did it, and

779
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: then immediately like fifteen minutes, like I think my body

780
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: was just like yep, give me that. And so I

781
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: was like I'm going back you're done. Wow. I was.

782
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 4: I was nervous about breaking like I did my first

783
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 4: longer fast, so I I ate, uh like, I ate.

784
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 4: What I saw was like berries and like bone broth

785
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: or something. So I had some broth and I had

786
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 4: some berries, and I waited an hour like I had

787
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 4: a lot of berries, the whole thing. And then I

788
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 4: waited an hour because I had broken fast before and

789
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 4: it made me more sick with like something greasy. And

790
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 4: then I just like, and then I did what you said.

791
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 4: I just ate and then I sat down, and then

792
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 4: I ate again, and then I sat down.

793
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: And then was okay. Minus the reeses and kit cat,

794
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: I was not okay.

795
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 2: I are you talking about the eggs?

796
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 3: No, these were the eggs better eggs?

797
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 4: Are they actually?

798
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 3: Mid way better? Actually really good.

799
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 4: I don't know why the uh the the chocolate to

800
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 4: peanut butter ratio that they do in the eggs and

801
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: they do in the Yes.

802
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah they do it.

803
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 4: So they changed yeah the pump they change you, so

804
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 4: you you have to know this. So they changed the

805
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: ratio of the peanut butter and chocolate and the cups

806
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 4: from what it used to be to something else now,

807
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: and they're not as good. But the eggs and the

808
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 4: pumpkins are the same ratio, so that's why they are better.

809
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: So they're doing that to get more people to buy seasonally. Yes, genies, Yeah, genius.

810
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 5: I won't touch the regular ones anymore.

811
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 4: You won't even touch it.

812
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 5: No, if they don't have the eggs or the Christmas

813
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 5: trees or whatever, I won't buy it.

814
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 3: I like the ministtle small ones like usually in the

815
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 3: tin Oh, I love those are good. That's a ratio

816
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 3: in those two.

817
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: Did they have one with a chip in it?

818
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: Now? Perfect?

819
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: You want to ingredients are perfect?

820
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: That gets you a little crunch in there? Maybe?

821
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, did you saw on it all?

822
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,959
Speaker 3: Dude? I wanted to, but that was like the last

823
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: thing you've probably not probably being double miserable or miserable.

824
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if I could have. Yeah, yeah, man.

825
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 3: My So I went for a good six month clip

826
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 3: of i'd say six days a week going thirty minutes

827
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 3: or twenty five minutes and then three minutes in the cold.

828
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: And then the time changed, and so I've gone probably

829
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: three times a week doing that same ratio. Not in

830
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: the morning, I'm like middayish or at night because that

831
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 3: that our time change Man, it messed me up with kids.

832
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. When you have kids that I mean

833
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: just having the sun go down earlier or later when

834
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: whatever it is. I mean our kids, especially with us

835
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: having a newborn in the mix, that morning time that

836
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: we used to cove it for training and just is

837
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: thrown out.

838
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: It's gone, dude, completely gone because.

839
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: They don't go to bed till later now because the

840
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: sun's up there. Like I can't go to bed right now.

841
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 3: I'm still fired up for sure. And then now the

842
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: sun doesn't come up as early, or it didn't. Now

843
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: it's starting to like now that I wake up, we

844
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: wake up at six thirty ish. Usually I was getting

845
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: up at six to go Sona and plunge, man, and

846
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: I loved it. I'd listen to a sermon and I

847
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: miss it. But man, and now we're in softball season

848
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: where Lakeland's playing softball, and then Violet now is playing

849
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: softball and the Tristles start baseball. So like last night,

850
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: we didn't get home till nine.

851
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: That's gotta be surreal for you being in baseball.

852
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's so much fun, honestly. So I've coached

853
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: Trice the last couple of years helped me and a

854
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: buddy of coached are both our boys, and it's been

855
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 3: a ton of fun. I've helped a little bit with Lakeland,

856
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: but she kind of started softball late, and now that

857
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: she's in middle school, you can't really help other than

858
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 3: here doing whatever. But Violet started last night, and honestly,

859
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: I think nine you girls softball has been my favorite

860
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: thing to coach. Dude, those girls they didn't they just man,

861
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: they were just getting it and they didn't care. They're

862
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: just looking for the ball. They're hitting and they're running.

863
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 3: You don't like boys get all like try to act

864
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: cool and whatever. The girls just man, it was. It

865
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 3: was awesome. It was so cool. So yeah, last night

866
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: Violet had her first game and I told the coach

867
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: i'd help, and so I walked up and this if

868
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 3: I didn't even get to go to any practices. And

869
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 3: I showed up. He's like, hey, can you pitch? I'm like,

870
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: because it's coaching, yeah, And I'm like yeah, sure. Never

871
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: been more stressed in my life. I'm finally throwing darts,

872
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 3: you know, to eight and nine year olds. Coach pitch overhand,

873
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: but underhand, I'm like, yeah, I don't want to make

874
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: a little girl cry. I'm the one that struck her out, man.

875
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: But it was awesome. So they won last night and

876
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: it was it was a cool Violet. Violet's done a

877
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: little bit of you know, she's played basketball in flag football,

878
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: but that was like the first time you could see

879
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: her like out there to kind of like compete, not

880
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: just be out there to have fun.

881
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: So real.

882
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: We were throwing a yesterday. We were actually throwing the

883
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: baseball around with our son. He's he's gonna be five

884
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: this year, and uh, and we had like we had

885
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: the tennis ball and just the whiffleball bat and he

886
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: hit it a couple of good times and you could

887
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: tell a switch went off in his brain.

888
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, I'm gonna like this.

889
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: This is what we're gonna do.

890
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: Just just that competitive itch that's come out and the kid.

891
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: You can't beat that. And especially as a father who

892
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: being being an athlete, you want nothing more than for

893
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: your kid to experience the amazing and like the highs

894
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: and lows of sports as you're growing up.

895
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 4: Man, I have my first one on the way right now, Congress,

896
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 4: and I've I obviously I hang out family this this weekend.

897
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: I I asked my dad. I said, hey, what did

898
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 4: you do when we wanted to play basketball? And I'm like,

899
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 4: were you like pissed? Because if my kid wants to

900
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 4: play basketball, I'm not gonna be that please because I'm

901
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: not good.

902
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 3: I never played it.

903
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 4: The one sport I cannot.

904
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: I'll give you, really, I'll give you the opposite. It's

905
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: more fun probably to do that because then you don't

906
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: feel obligated to chach you don't know enough to like

907
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: critique them or give them help. Where You're just like

908
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: with lake because I never played basketball. I just it

909
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 3: was one sport. My dad never pushed us to play.

910
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: We had a basketball goal and stuff. I'm maybe have

911
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: tried out in fifth.

912
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: I can tell you didn't play basketball just by saying

913
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: basketball goal.

914
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so we just didn't play yea. And so Lakeland,

915
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: that's something she's she's pretty darn good at. She played

916
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: this year fifth grade and then she got garbage minutes

917
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: for the sixth grade team. But she was it was

918
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: cool for her to learn. But she's pretty good and

919
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 3: I can't. I'm just like, hey, you should just maybe rebound,

920
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: like rebounding I'm like, hey, back away from the goal.

921
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: A little bit to get a better anger.

922
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can those types of things.

923
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like I can't, you know, I can't with baseball.

924
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, which is also fun. It's a different perspective

925
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 3: with softball. She knows she can come to me and say, hey,

926
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: you know, how could I have done this better? Or

927
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 3: I can like just jokingly critique, like, hey, why didn't

928
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: hit your cut off man or whatever, and she's kind

929
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: of like, you know, gives me a little smirk. And

930
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: Hillary will be like, just tell her she did a

931
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: good job, and Lakelan's like, you don't even know anything

932
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: about And I'm not being hard on her, but I'm

933
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: just like, hey, you know, when you're instead of stepping

934
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 3: out when you go to swing, step to the picture.

935
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: Because she started doing and it's been cool to see

936
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: her kind of get more comfortable in softball. She was

937
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: a little bit late to getting out there from basketball,

938
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: and so she's like opened up her stance and relaxed

939
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: a little bit. But now she's stepping out. So I'm like, hey,

940
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: step to the picture. And then she's like, yeah, the

941
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: coach told me, And so it's like cool that that

942
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: stuff is getting doubled to her. So she's like, Okay,

943
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 3: dad knows what he's talking about. But basketball the opposite

944
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: is like, I don't know, man, So it is it

945
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: makes it more you're more of a fan versus like

946
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 3: it stresses me out when she gets on the mound

947
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 3: or like not on the mound, but when she's pitching,

948
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: I'm a mess because she doesn't practice it enough. And

949
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 3: she's like, yeah, I can do that, and I'm like,

950
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: you don't. She's walking people and I'm just like this

951
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: not you know, I can't help her with pitching because

952
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know what the different. It's way different.

953
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: So my mom was a pro softball pitcher, dude, so.

954
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: She so I was.

955
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: I was a pitcher growing up, and then she coming

956
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: from a pro background of softball as a pitcher, she

957
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: would I mean she was throwing seventy five mile an

958
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: hour heaters.

959
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 2: And I still like, we would try to replicate what

960
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: my mom would do, and it's impossible.

961
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, unbelievable. So much I mean, so much skill, so

962
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: much time. I mean, it's unreal. I was a basketball

963
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: player growing up, Okay, so that's what I went into

964
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: college to play, and that was that was our upbringing

965
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: with basketball. I never played football. I never like actually

966
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: went and played competitive baseball past past high school or anything.

967
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: So that was that's something I want my kids to

968
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: play basketball, you know. I hope that they don't sprain

969
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: their ankles as much as I did, But I think

970
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: that's like, that's part of it is that they have

971
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: to learn that there's some things that as a parent,

972
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: you can't teach your kids. They just have to go

973
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: out and learn on the field. And as much as

974
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: you want I give them as much to run with,

975
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: they do have to kind of figure it out well.

976
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: That And also it's good for them to take coaching

977
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: pushing from someone else because at some point, you know,

978
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: your only mom and dad and they're only going to

979
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: listen to you to so much. But I see, like,

980
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: I'll say the same thing that her coach, coach Emma says,

981
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: and you can see her like taking it, and I'm like,

982
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: I just told you the same thing, you know. I'm like, hey,

983
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: screwed up to the plate, step to the picture, and

984
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: I see her pulling her aside, and Lakeland's just like

985
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: all them just told you, you know, And so it's

986
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: good and and also somebody to like hold your kid

987
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 3: accountable and like. But she said both the basketball and

988
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 3: softball coach are pretty I would say pretty strict, especially

989
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: for middle school. I love it. Hillary hates it. She's like,

990
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 3: she can't do that to the I'm like, how I

991
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 3: heard you tell her fifty times to grab her socks.

992
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: She didn't do it. She's got to run foul poles.

993
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: There's consequences. Oh, she wants the mispractice to go do X.

994
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: She's got to run foul polls. That's fine, She's got

995
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 3: to learn that. There's trade off.

996
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 2: Coaching is so different now.

997
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: I mean when I look at I would I graduated

998
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: high school in twenty thirteen. Even the years from nine

999
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: to twenty thirteen, when we would get in trouble, they

1000
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: were garbage cans wind up on the baselines and you

1001
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: would go until somebody would puke, and then somebody would

1002
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: get good enough at actually baking puking that you get out.

1003
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: We would get out of it.

1004
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: But you can't do that now otherwise somebody's gonna get canceled. Yeah,

1005
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate because.

1006
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 4: I feel like disbanded. Yeah.

1007
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was another practice in middle school where we

1008
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: ran sixteen sixty. So sixteen sidelines and sidelines in sixty

1009
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 1: seconds and if you didn't do it and you line

1010
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: back up.

1011
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: We did an entire practice of it.

1012
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: I remember the parents being so mad and then my

1013
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: dad sitting there at the very end.

1014
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: Of practice being like, hell.

1015
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it awesome, man, I love

1016
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: it all for it.

1017
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1018
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: So I think that I hope that as our kids

1019
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: get older, the parents that are coaching, don't, you know,

1020
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: become too soft with I think that the punishment or

1021
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: however you want to call it, the learning lessons behind

1022
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: it is.

1023
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: It's an important part.

1024
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 3: It's flipped a little bit too. I think we we

1025
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: went way too soft, and I think and now it's

1026
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: coming backing being you know, trying to be tough and not.

1027
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 3: You know, there is a fine you know, all these

1028
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 3: things you're hearing with kids back, you know, dying from

1029
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 3: from running and stuff. But it's like, yeah, hey, punishment

1030
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 3: within reason, and so I'm all for it. Man. That's

1031
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: where I'm like, hey, they got to learn and and

1032
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: team sports prepare you to work with your peers. They

1033
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 3: prepare you to work for work for somebody, somebody you

1034
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 3: agree with, somebody you disagree with. Uh, And so I

1035
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 3: think youth sports are incredible.

1036
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: I think the thing that youth sports taught me the

1037
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: most was how much I despised losing compared to how

1038
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: much I love winning. I love winning, but the feeling

1039
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: of losing, and that same feeling I feel in business

1040
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: when we lose, or that same feeling I have when

1041
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm a husband and I know I did something I

1042
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: shouldn't have done or as a fat man, that.

1043
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: Is the worst feeling. I never want to repeat that again.

1044
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: But I would have never had that head of not

1045
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: worked off the kinks as an athlete growing.

1046
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: Up, and hey, I don't like this feeling. How can

1047
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 3: I change it? What do I need to do? And

1048
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: have some introspection of like, all right, how what am

1049
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: I going to do to make sure that doesn't happen again?

1050
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1051
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: No, exactly. Yeah, never repeat the same mistake. It's way

1052
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: way easier said than done, especially especially if it's a

1053
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: habit man. But I think that, you know, bringing back

1054
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: the gospel part, Like for me, I think that's been

1055
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: a huge part is when I find myself wanting to

1056
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: repeat the same mistake, I'll go back and listen to

1057
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 1: the word and then all of a sudden I'll realize, oh,

1058
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, this is a good reminder. It's that nudge

1059
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: and it's the accountability side that's been really huge for

1060
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: me in my transformation the last couple of years.

1061
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: Well even to the accountability side is having dudes that

1062
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 3: you you know Joby talked about and I sent you

1063
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: guys that clip Joby Martin. I don't know if you

1064
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: know him much, but he was talking about the paralyzed

1065
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 3: man that Jesus healed and the guys that carried him

1066
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 3: in and have four you know, he says, Matt Carers

1067
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: dudes that, And we're speaking on a podcast that are

1068
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: dudes predominantly. It's like, have dudes that you trust that

1069
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: you can be like, hey, you know, give me a

1070
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: critique of what I'm doing, or hey, I need your

1071
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 3: help or whatever. Joby always says, the like worst thing

1072
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: a dude can ever say is I got this because

1073
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: you don't know. And so I think it's you know,

1074
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 3: that's why you know with us hunting like to hunt

1075
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 3: a group, like to be on a team. I think

1076
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 3: it's just started at a young age playing team sports

1077
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 3: and having that accountability. It's exactly what you're saying is

1078
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 3: like you know, you've got other dudes in your corner

1079
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: that hey, I can go to if I need something

1080
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 3: or one I need help, Hey I need you know,

1081
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: some critique on something, or just.

1082
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: We call those guys are three am guys back home.

1083
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: He's the guys that's gonna pick up the phone call

1084
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: at three am.

1085
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: I don't keep my phone by me at three six

1086
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: six o'clock. I'm there because I would, just because I

1087
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 3: keep my phone off.

1088
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you should listen to after hearing him say that,

1089
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 4: go back and now listen to Brenton Lake Tear Off

1090
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 4: the Roof song. Like the lyrics are even better once

1091
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 4: you once you think about that. Uh, it's so good. Yeah,

1092
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 4: Like the chorus of it is so good.

1093
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: There's a pastor I love his name, Pastor Lyle Phillips.

1094
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: He's out of Legacy Church in Nashville, and I've listened

1095
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: to a bunch of the sermons. He's so good. He's

1096
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 1: got he's got a great podcast as well. But he

1097
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: does such a good job discerning the difference between the

1098
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: independent spirit and the spirit like that God's calling us

1099
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: to do and that that independent spirit when you're in isolation,

1100
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: it just becomes more apparent that we need relationships for sure,

1101
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: and it's that the reason, Like the way that God

1102
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: blesses us is three people and four people. So if

1103
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: I've got a great relationship with you, if I have

1104
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: a great relationship with you, I could go so much

1105
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 1: farther versus the self made mentality is so so bad,

1106
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: so bad, Like that's the last.

1107
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: Thing that we need.

1108
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: I think social media kind of exacerbates the shit a

1109
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: little bit.

1110
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: Way back to what we talked about in the beginning.

1111
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: You doing that with those twelve guys, you weren't gonna

1112
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: quit because they were't gonna quit. You maybe had two

1113
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: guys that dropped off, but the other ten kept going right. Yeah,

1114
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: And then here if it was if I was by

1115
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 3: myself doing that by myself and hadn't told anybody I

1116
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: was gonna do it, but I knew that Austin wasn't

1117
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: gonna quit, and I knew the other people in there.

1118
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: There were some that fell off, but the ones that

1119
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 3: kept doing it. I'm not gonna be the one that's not. Yeah,

1120
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be the one that they're making fun

1121
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 3: of because I slept for six hours. Maybe the one

1122
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 3: that you made fun of because I walked some. But

1123
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. And that's why I told Austin

1124
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: one of the times, I said hey, because he was hurt.

1125
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: We were both hurting, like I could see in his eyes,

1126
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: and I'm like, hey, I won't quit on you, but

1127
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna go as fast as I can, but

1128
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 3: it ain't gonna be fast. He's like, yeah, saying man.

1129
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: And so that's at no point. You know, there were

1130
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: a couple guys that would even like take twenty or

1131
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 3: thirty minutes and wait after they transitioned. At no point

1132
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 3: was one of us not on that course. Yeah, for

1133
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 3: less than a minute, you know, like we as as

1134
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 3: he was coming in, I was out, and we weren't fast.

1135
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 3: We weren't the fastest by any means, but I wasn't

1136
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 3: at the point. That's not the point that at some point,

1137
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: that's not the point, like and it is hard at

1138
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 3: times for me to disconnect that just because that's been

1139
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 3: my career, right, but that's so far outside my comfort

1140
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: zone and what my body really should be able to

1141
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 3: handle at this point too. And so but it was

1142
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 3: it was a cool and those are the mental check

1143
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 3: ins that we always talk about that you need every

1144
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 3: once in a while.

1145
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: It's accountability.

1146
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 3: Man. Where am I at? Yeah, well, we've talked a

1147
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 3: ton about a lot of things. What do you wanna

1148
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 3: what give us some sauna? Just like three things you

1149
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: would tell people how to start, you know, like we

1150
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: when I first got it. You know, kind of the

1151
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 3: protocol of like, you know, do you go one hundred

1152
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 3: and ninety degrees? You can tap it out at one

1153
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 3: ninety six and do that for How long? Do I do? Hot? Cold?

1154
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 3: Do I do before bed? Do I do in the morning?

1155
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: Do I do just whenever? You know, it's like, give us,

1156
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: give us some tips so we can talk sauna stuff

1157
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: for sure. So, uh, sauna therapy has been going on

1158
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: for centuries and centuries over in Europe, Finland specifically, and

1159
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 3: they actually didn't utilize sauna for the sauna purposes that

1160
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: we use it for. It was actually the infirm it

1161
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 3: was hospitals, it was places for people to go heal.

1162
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: They actually had a church performed out of sauna way

1163
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: back in the day through there, just because it was

1164
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: just the easiest way to get people to come to

1165
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: baseline together. But when you look at to me, the

1166
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: number one facet to sauna therapy. It's the relationships and

1167
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: it's the community building. As much as in the United States,

1168
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 3: we're obsessed with objective data, and this study says this,

1169
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: and I should do this protocol to me, you strip

1170
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 3: all that away.

1171
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: The reason why people love sauna.

1172
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: So much is that you build community in it, and

1173
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: it's the one time, especially right now in twenty twenty six,

1174
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: where people don't have their phones in there. People come together.

1175
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: A lot of times it's with the stranger or their friends,

1176
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: and you get twenty five thirty minutes of uninterrupted conversation

1177
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: and flow. And there's a point in the sauna session

1178
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: around that fifteen to twenty minute mark where your body

1179
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: tells you to get out, especially if it's hot enough,

1180
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: and you have to fight it. And all of a sudden,

1181
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: people's heads going down and the conversation gets a little

1182
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: bit more urgent, And I don't know if you've ever

1183
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: been in in a really good conversation flowing a sauna,

1184
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the full senses go

1185
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: to three words at a time and you start speaking

1186
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: way more direct with each other.

1187
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: Podcast. Yeah, you're trying to collect your thoughts and you

1188
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: can get out true.

1189
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I think I think the first tip

1190
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: I tell somebody is don't do sauna therapy necessarily for

1191
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: all the data that's coming out, and do it for

1192
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: the relationships in the community.

1193
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: You're going to meet people.

1194
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: You're going to meet and learn more about people and

1195
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: your family through the conversations. And that's what's going to

1196
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: make it a sticking point for you to actually want

1197
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: to get back in the sauna, is because of the

1198
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: conversations that you have the subjective side away the objective side.

1199
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: There's so much great data that's coming out. I know

1200
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: that the one that Todd was referring to is twenty

1201
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: eighteen from a researcher called Laucinan from Finland and Sweden's

1202
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: huge because we were in Sweden and so yeah, yeah,

1203
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean so in in Finland for every two people

1204
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: there's one sauna. So when you look at it, the

1205
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: data shows that for the average household there's two saunas,

1206
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: typically one in the or from Yeah, and so the

1207
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: word CSU means never give up in the Finish language,

1208
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: or perseverance, grit, tenacity, and it's it's really cool because

1209
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: the data from that twenty eighteen study showed, and this

1210
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: was also the largest group ever performed in a study

1211
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: for sauna therapy a minimum threshold of one hundred and

1212
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: seventy six degrees performed four times weekly had a all

1213
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: cause mortality rate decrease more than fifty percent compared to

1214
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: the people that were just doing a one time a week,

1215
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: And it showed you that the underlying principle to it

1216
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: is heat exposure with people and done consistently over time

1217
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: is what's going to allow people to really garner the

1218
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 1: great effects from it. I love that study. However, there's

1219
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: another study that I thought was really interesting that came

1220
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: out not long ago as well.

1221
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: One time weekly, two bouts. So if you were to

1222
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 2: go into.

1223
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: A sauna thirty minutes, minimum threshold one hundred and seventy

1224
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: six degrees, I believe they were doing this around one

1225
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: hundred ninety thirty minutes, five minute cooling period, go back

1226
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: and do another thirty minutes.

1227
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, which if you've ever been in the sauna thirty.

1228
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 3: Already a long time, twenty five is like it's hard,

1229
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 3: but a dual that was what I would do. Twenty five,

1230
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 3: take a minute to walk over and I have the

1231
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: cold creek se su cold plunch, Yes, at fifty degrees

1232
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: and I'd sit in there for three minutes, done going,

1233
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 3: and I've done a couple back and forth.

1234
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: But gosh, I mean you feel high from that? Yeah,

1235
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: just we go around.

1236
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 3: We call a little freebie. Yeah, you're like, whoa.

1237
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: Right, So the kicker is you do it again the

1238
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: same exact protocol later in the day.

1239
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, person, it's crazy. You get your four times.

1240
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: That's a sixteen x increasing natural growth hormone response. Yeah,

1241
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: so one side, right, but the kickers, you only do

1242
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: that one time a week because.

1243
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 3: It's so intense. Dude, it's so miss I don't know.

1244
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: The only way that you would get me to do

1245
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: that protocol is if I did it with people that

1246
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: I love. Oh heck yeah, if I'm doing that solo

1247
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: sermon or something due.

1248
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: If I'm doing that solo, get me.

1249
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 4: Out of there so I better start seeing the effects

1250
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 4: of the growth hormone quick.

1251
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: I want that growth hormone gut yeah, yeah, yeah, I

1252
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 3: just want to feel yoked. Yeah.

1253
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 4: If I don't feel yoked after the first time, I'm

1254
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 4: not doing any to try six weeks.

1255
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 3: I wish we could do like a blood test and yeah, yeah,

1256
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 3: for sure, I have heard that.

1257
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 4: I ever heard that protocol.

1258
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: So there's diminishing returns after that though, So if you

1259
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: just do that one time a week, that's ideal.

1260
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: This isn't a group that does anything, so it doesn't matter.

1261
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 3: Rich is going to figure out how many times you

1262
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: can do that six day cycle or seven days.

1263
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 2: To come back a month familiar. You look like a razor.

1264
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: Just it's like what happened to my husband?

1265
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 3: You?

1266
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's a really interesting protocol. You need to

1267
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: make sure that you're getting electrolytes. And then the reason

1268
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: why the thirty minute mark is so key is that

1269
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: the heat shock protein response that people always tout for

1270
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: traditional sono therapy starts right around the twenty minute mark.

1271
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: And really that's the cellular repair crew, if you will,

1272
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: that'll go in and clean up any like proteins that

1273
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: were misfolded, any sort of cellular waste, and heatchock proteins

1274
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: ultimately create resilience for the cells. So anytime when it

1275
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: gets too hot, anytime when it's too cold, heatchoc proteins

1276
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: are really responsible to make sure that the cells are resilient.

1277
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: And that's that twenty to thirty minute mark. If you

1278
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: don't get to twenty minutes, typically, unless if you're very

1279
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: not acclimated to the heat, you're not going to get

1280
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: that response. So I think that that is one of

1281
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: the main drivers for that study. There's also other studies

1282
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: when you start pulling in the contrast side, when you're

1283
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: starting to combine sauna cold plung.

1284
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 2: Shower as well. There's less out there on that.

1285
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: I do believe that we're going to find more and more,

1286
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: especially as the wearables start to get more streamlined. I

1287
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: think it's important to know that all these different protocols,

1288
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: they're basing the heat and the temperature off of where

1289
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 1: your head, the top of your head sits inside the sauna.

1290
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: It's not at waste level and shoulder level. It's off

1291
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: the top of your head. But the main contrast protocols

1292
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: that we're starting to see that work the best two

1293
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: to three rounds again minimum thresholds, the one seventy six

1294
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about the hot hot rocks, coil seat, the rocks,

1295
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: not infrared. You're talking fifteen to twenty minutes, and then

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Speaker 1: you have a minute to come outside of the sauna

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Speaker 1: and not go directly into the cold punch but a

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Speaker 1: minute to acclimate, and then you get into the cold punch.

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Speaker 1: You do two to three minutes in there, take a

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Speaker 1: minute cool, then get back to the sauna.

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Speaker 2: So there's these minute buffers.

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Speaker 1: That way your body doesn't get into this crazy shock

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Speaker 1: response where all of a sudden, your nervous system starts

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00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: getting crazy baso construction basi dihilation happens way too quick,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden people start getting really lightheaded.

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Speaker 2: That's a problem. That high that you get is it's

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Speaker 2: a lively feeling.

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Speaker 1: But it's one of the reasons why I think the

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Speaker 1: community setting is really good, especially if you're doing sauna

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Speaker 1: cold punch, keep an eye on each other. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I think the one of the big to me, one

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Speaker 1: of the best protocols I've done. I would say it's

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Speaker 1: more anecdotal based off of my recovery, my HRV and

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Speaker 1: then my sleep recovery. Doing sauna, shower and then cold

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Speaker 1: punch is the best. So I'll do fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 1: minutes around one hundred ninety degrees in the sauna, pouring

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00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: water on the rocks every five minutes. That just adds

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00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: the humidity aid steam. It gets real nasty then you

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00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: do a one minute lukewarm shower. We have an outdoor

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Speaker 1: shower that we just launched two days ago that we're

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Speaker 1: going to start like really putting out the marketing on

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00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: here soon. That then keeps the water clean inside of

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Speaker 1: your coal punch as well.

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Speaker 3: That helps.

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Speaker 1: So you got a minute, So you got a minute

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00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: to cool off naturally from lukewarm water, and then you

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Speaker 1: go into your coal punch for two to three minutes

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Speaker 1: and you repeat that three times. That to me, an

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Speaker 1: hour prior to bed is unlike anything. And you finish

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00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: on the sauna because your body temp essentially, your body's

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00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: inducing a fever when you're inside the sauna, so when

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Speaker 1: you come outside the saunda, you're in a shower, it

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Speaker 1: naturally starts cooling itself off. The key is when you

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Speaker 1: end on cold prior to bed, your body has to

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Speaker 1: compensate the other direction. So now it's harder for you

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Speaker 1: to go to sleep versus if my body's naturally cooling off,

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00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: it goes below baseline because it's compensated in the other direction.

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Speaker 1: I get to go to you know, go to sleep quicker,

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00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: feel better, I'm staying asleep. I recovery the next day,

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Speaker 1: I feel like a million bucks. And I would say,

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00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: like the main kicker to that too is making sure

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00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: you're staying hydrated through that electrolytes throughout.

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Speaker 2: If you do.

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00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: Sauna and then you don't hydrate, you will wake up

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00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: feeling pretty pretty oft. And I you know, for me

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00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: speaking many times, uh, waking up early to train right

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00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: after a sauna cold punch session and I have that

1348
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: dry mouth.

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00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: That is the worst feeling.

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00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: You have to hydrate, and I think like a really

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00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: good sodium content electrolyte is really key there.

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00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 3: You always take electrolytes, always have them pretty kind of

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00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 3: loaded in the morning to where I scrab it out

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00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 3: of the fridge and go straight down to it. But

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00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 3: you have to I think electrolytes are key or key

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00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 3: to it when I was doing it regularly in the mornings,

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00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 3: but man, I I gotta get back to doing that

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00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 3: the first thing in the morning. Now it's just whenever

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00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 3: I can get it in. Yeah, it was just a

1360
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,479
Speaker 3: good rhythm for me. You to like kind of flush

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00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 3: some soreness from the day before, get blood flowing, get

1362
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: kind of like where you're like, h, train's gonna be

1363
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 3: rough today, And then I'd get out and be like, oh,

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00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:08,479
Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 1: And I think that you talk about the tips side.

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00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: This is my third tip and it speaks directly on

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. When I was convenience, I think that

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00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: sauna is meant to be convenient because when it's not convenient, obviously,

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00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: it becomes.

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00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: Less of a habit.

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Speaker 1: If I have it directly outside my door, I have

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00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: one of the best vehicles to build family, community, conversation

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00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: in my recovery as well as my aerobic foundation, just

1374
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: by literally turning on an app walk out, I get

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00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: into it and then go back to my house and

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00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: go to bed like that. That convenience is unlike anything else.

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00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the reasons why people in

1378
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 1: Finland are so unbelievable, unbelievably fulfilled, even though it's also

1379
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: the cloudiest country in the world and it's arguably like

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00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: one of the rainiest two. So many people say that

1381
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: in the United States we have all these excuses to

1382
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,919
Speaker 1: not be fit, and it's like, dude, do you look

1383
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: all around the United States or you look all around

1384
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: the world. So many variables. Uh, people are controlling just

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01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: by doing things with community and are doing things that

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01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: are hard, and I think that sauna is meant to

1387
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: be hard. In some cases, it's also meant to be

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01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: sometimes easier.

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01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 3: As you're yeah, I would say it's easier getting in

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01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 3: the sauna than it is getting in a cold point.

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01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 2: A wuss when it comes to the cold punch.

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01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: We sell cold punches, but it's the reason why we

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01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: start off in sauna. I love being hot, I love sweating.

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01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 3: I hate I actually hate being hot, man, but it

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01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 3: is good for you. And then also the cold in

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01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 3: the morning just is daunting. I would I do that

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01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 3: for like a year where it's just like, all right,

1398
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 3: three minutes off the rip, dude, and then you're the

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01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 3: rest of the day or for the next two hours.

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Speaker 3: It was yeah, but the sauna into the cold, I'm.

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01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 2: Like, Okay's introduction, Yeah, lower berry for entry at that point.

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01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: But if I if you were to tell me, I'm

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01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: I have a cold punch and I don't have anything,

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01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: I don't have a sauna, that cold punch will never

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01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: get ever used.

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01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 3: Forget it did for a while and then all of

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01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm like, you get out of the rhythm

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01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 3: of that, and you're like, nah, I'm out, dude. You

1409
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: can get back in a rhythm one under.

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01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: So I think that to me, the cold plunge is

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01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: really that dopamine hit, similar to like a double shot

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01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: of espresso or something, but without the effects of a crash.

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01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 3: Later.

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01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I know that I need to be on

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01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: for something, if I'm gonna go speak, if I'm gonna

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01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: be leading like a big important meeting or discussion, like,

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01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: I need to make sure that I get in the

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01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: cold punch prier because I know that that's a variable

1419
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: I can control. I'm gonna feel twenty times better after that.

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01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: So we actually started getting our our our oldest again

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01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: about to be five. He is now starting to take

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01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: to the cold punch because he sees us going in

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01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: in the fact.

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Speaker 3: That my kids love the I let him go in

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01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 3: about it's like a big playoffs. Ten minutes, Yeah, all right,

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01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 3: ten minutes you're out. If you start getting flushed and red,

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01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 3: we're getting out. You get to bring a spin drift

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01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 3: or some water in with you and then we're out.

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01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 3: But they love it, man, It's it's like a big

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01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 3: playoffs to the kids.

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01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: We've got the cabins on in our backyard, so you've

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01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: got like the different tiers and then they'll go and

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01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: hide underneath the benches and stuff. But they've been taken

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01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: to the cold plunge randomly, which is so funny. And

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01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: they'll they'll get in, then they'll come back out and

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01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: they'll they'll be slightly scared for a second, and yes,

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01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: and they'll.

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01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 2: Be around the yard and they're like a wind up

1439
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: toy at that point. It's so fun.

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01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 3: Okay, man, where where can people find you? Yeah?

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01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: So you can find us CSU Lifestyle dot com. You

1442
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: can find me on Instagram, Peter Nelson. I I our

1443
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: Instagram also a CSU Underscore Sauna and you also find

1444
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: us on Youtubeerson going to put quite a bit of

1445
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: val YouTube content out there around the education of sauna therapy,

1446
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: the lifestyle, behind the scenes of us building the brand, and.

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01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 3: This podcast Eat the Heat too. Yeah yeah, yeah.

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01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: Beat the Heat Beat the Heats of the Sauna podcast

1449
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: staying for thirty minutes and get the Golden Ladle yep

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01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: for that one. Yeah, same, I just I just got

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Speaker 1: my That was great.

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01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 2: That was alright.

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01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 3: I saw ours the other day. It was just sitting

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01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 3: in our like actual our utensiled drawer used on We've

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01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 3: not used it for the sauna yet so that's so

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Speaker 3: funny cool Well heck yeah man, that was a fun discussion. Yeah.

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01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 2: Thanks you wish for the opportunity to down with y'all. Dude,

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01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 2: listening to this song a little bit