WEBVTT - Our favorite climate numbers

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Zero.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Oscar Boyd and I'm Christine Driscol and we're the

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<v Speaker 2>producers and Zero.

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<v Speaker 1>And joining us is our host ak keat Rathy Actua.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to have you here, nice to be here. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for costing me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we had to cost you because we are doing

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<v Speaker 2>something different today. We are going to play a game,

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<v Speaker 2>a guessing game, and I get to win. You might win,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We'll have to see. But as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we are always talking about climate numbers that are out there.

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<v Speaker 2>We are like seeing percentages, the lowering cost of different technologies,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we wanted to spend an episode talking about

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<v Speaker 2>some of the good numbers that we come across, and

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<v Speaker 2>so we thought would be fun for people to listen

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<v Speaker 2>in as we try to get each other to guess

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<v Speaker 2>some of these positive numbers. So, Oscar, can you provide

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<v Speaker 2>us some structure of how the game is going.

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<v Speaker 1>To go the rules? Yes, So the game is simple.

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<v Speaker 1>Each of us will present one number and then the

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<v Speaker 1>other two have to figure out what that number represents.

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<v Speaker 1>Each person and they can ask three questions, also ask

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<v Speaker 1>for a few clues if you get stuck, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you have to guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Ok. Shot do you copy?

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<v Speaker 3>I do, and it's simple enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, great, So like we're just going to a practice

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<v Speaker 2>around right now. There's no winning or losing, we're just learning.

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<v Speaker 2>So my number is fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>One okay, So I might ask is that a percentage?

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<v Speaker 2>Very very good guess, ask for it is a percentage.

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<v Speaker 3>And I might ask is it to do with fossil fuels?

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<v Speaker 2>It is not a fossil fuel related number.

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<v Speaker 1>So we continue in that fashion. Christine, you might give

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<v Speaker 1>us a couple of clues as well, but eventually we'd

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<v Speaker 1>get to the answer, which is.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty one percent is the percentage of Sweden's electricity production

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<v Speaker 2>that came from renewables in April this year, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was a new record.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Sweden's also got nuclear so it's getting there up there

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<v Speaker 1>with its carbon free grid. Now you give this number away,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm still interested in this price. What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question. So this is a made up game,

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<v Speaker 1>and we thought we'd give the winner a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a made up prize. So the winner today gets one

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<v Speaker 1>whole carbon offset.

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<v Speaker 3>The worst gift you can give me, right, fantastic?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, let's play the game, which for now

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<v Speaker 2>is called whose number is it? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Actually, this time it's for real. Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do the honors and kick off our inorgal game

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<v Speaker 1>of whose number is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty two billion?

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty two billion? It's a big number. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to guess that this is a monetary figure. Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that you say monetary figure. I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be like, is it money? Go very elegant?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I don't think I've ever used the words

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<v Speaker 1>figured before. I think it's come out today.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the monetary figure? Guessing game? Okay? Is this US dollars?

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<v Speaker 2>It is?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Is the money coming from a private source or

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<v Speaker 1>a public slash governmental source?

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<v Speaker 3>A private source?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? And has this money been spent or will it

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<v Speaker 1>be spent in the future? Spent?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I was going to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I I think it's time to ask for a clue.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, can we have a clue.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got to do with oil companies.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been spent already, and it's good news. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna guess it. I'm gonna guess that this is I

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<v Speaker 2>guess my final guess. I think thirty two billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>is the amount of money that has been spent by

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<v Speaker 2>a single oil company in researching carbon capture and sequestration.

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<v Speaker 1>And oscar I'm going to say it's the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>money that US oil companies shifted into renewables last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So Christina're wildly optimistic. I don't think a single oil

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<v Speaker 1>company is spent that much money on carbon capture research.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be a lot of money to be spent

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<v Speaker 1>on carbon capture research. I mean, typically a carbon capture

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<v Speaker 1>plant that captures about a million tons is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be about a billion a billion and a half dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're kind of looking at a really large carbon

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<v Speaker 1>capture plant if you're going to build that much money.

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<v Speaker 1>But Christine's one is organic, So.

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<v Speaker 3>All of this is organic. Your fossil fields are organic.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also was thinking about I was also thinking

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<v Speaker 2>oil isn't going to do carbon capture and sequestration. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a coal plant.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're right in that oil and gas companies are

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<v Speaker 3>the companies that will build most of the carbon capture

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<v Speaker 3>plants because they are the companies that can handle large

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<v Speaker 3>amounts of gases, which is what you need to do

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<v Speaker 3>and to do carbon capture and so it's in the

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<v Speaker 3>right area, but the wrong ballpark, and OSCAR is in

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<v Speaker 3>the right direction, but it's not all renewables. So thirty

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<v Speaker 3>two billion dollars is the total amount of money spent

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<v Speaker 3>by oil majors on low carbon investments in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>That is roughly nine percent of their total expenditure on

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<v Speaker 3>all energy, which means the rest of the ninety one

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<v Speaker 3>percent is on fossil fuels.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>What is striking about this number, though, is that even

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<v Speaker 3>though this number has gone up quite a bit in

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<v Speaker 3>recent years as a share of the total spend on

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<v Speaker 3>the energy transition, it has remained static since twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>So oil and gas companies, even as they're spending more

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<v Speaker 3>on low carbon investments, their total share is only three

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<v Speaker 3>percent of the energy transition and has been the same

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<v Speaker 3>since twenty eighteen roughly.

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<v Speaker 1>So, you mean, despite all the adverts we see on

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<v Speaker 1>TV saying that they're spending loads and loads and loads

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<v Speaker 1>on renewables, it's not really hot. Well, nothing's changed. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we knew that. You know, there are currently regulators

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<v Speaker 1>out to get oil and gas companies to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>they don't use green wasshy terms like carbon neutral and

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<v Speaker 1>so green washing in the advertising of oil and gas

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<v Speaker 1>industries is infamous now. But it is true that they

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<v Speaker 1>are spending in absolute sums, larger and larger money, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet their contribution to the energy transition hasn't really grown.

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<v Speaker 1>What counts as a low carbon investment.

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<v Speaker 3>All kinds of things, so that would be not just renewables,

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<v Speaker 3>but batteries, but also carbon capture, capturing methane emissions or

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<v Speaker 3>stopping leaks would count anything that really reduces emissions.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, that was a great first number. Who won the

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<v Speaker 1>first round?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think you were closed, so Oscar, you win,

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<v Speaker 3>But that means Christine gets a reward and she gets

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<v Speaker 3>to go next.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, my number is six point one.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, that's one of my favorite numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>Ow very small number, or is it? Well, it's gotta

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<v Speaker 3>be six point one degree celsius because then we'll be

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<v Speaker 3>roasted and that's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>Nears.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was thinking, should I give you the metric

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<v Speaker 2>as a hint? Straight away? I'm ready to make a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it would be impossible without the metric?

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I think the metric will make it go faster.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's they're around a guessing first, so six point one

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<v Speaker 1>is it a monetary figure?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it is not.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if it's not monetary, it's a unit to measure

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<v Speaker 3>what a physical thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's definitely something that's physical, but you can't truly

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<v Speaker 2>observe with the naked eye. And I'll also give you

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<v Speaker 2>another hint, which is it is certainly something that we're

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<v Speaker 2>using right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I tell you what the thing we're using right

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<v Speaker 2>now is?

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<v Speaker 1>Either tell us that or tell us the unit. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that'll be useful.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're all using electricity right now, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>form of.

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<v Speaker 1>Energy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so I'll give you the metric.

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<v Speaker 1>This is gigawatts, six point one gigawatts. Is this related

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<v Speaker 1>to the installation of a certain type of technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're burning to your guests, man, that was obvious.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it an installation of a form of energy that's

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<v Speaker 3>renewables and in your part of America?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes, it is installation of renewables. And I will

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<v Speaker 2>say that it is in like my part of America,

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<v Speaker 2>and that it is all of America.

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<v Speaker 1>Six point one gigawats.

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<v Speaker 3>That's too little for wind, that's too little for solar.

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<v Speaker 2>So is it that Hang on, you haven't guessed the

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<v Speaker 2>time scale?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this on an annual timescale?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's sub annual.

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<v Speaker 1>Sub annual.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, probably a monthly number. Yeah, I mean, and I

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<v Speaker 3>could guess it would be the monthly installation of wind

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<v Speaker 3>power in all of America?

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<v Speaker 2>Oscar Uh, are you ready to do your final guests?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do my final guest because I don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, so I'm just going to make something up.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the total capacity of new batteries installed in

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<v Speaker 1>houses in assesson month?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's it's not so. The timescale is a very

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<v Speaker 2>bloomberg timescale, which is Q one. And so this was

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of solar capacity added in the United States

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<v Speaker 2>just in Q one. This is the most solar capacity

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<v Speaker 2>that's been added in like the United States in the

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<v Speaker 2>first quarter, which is very exciting. Actually looks upset, like

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<v Speaker 2>you might not think this is real.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, I am upset, But I will tell

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<v Speaker 3>you why exactly why.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I saw this number researching something's about solar and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wow, that's very exciting. So in like

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<v Speaker 2>the first it's just this just this one quarter which

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<v Speaker 2>is like just past. It was like just over fifty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of all new electric generation in the US, which

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<v Speaker 2>was very exciting. And we are on track. This hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>happened yet, but we're on track to have half of

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<v Speaker 2>all new generation in the US that's added to be

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<v Speaker 2>in solar.

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<v Speaker 1>It is good news. Why I'm surprised by it, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I should really not be, is how far behind

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<v Speaker 1>America is compared to China. The number I had in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind of solar is that China is going to

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<v Speaker 1>install one hundred and fifty four gigawarts of solar in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three. Divide that by four. That means roughly

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<v Speaker 1>forty gigawarts of solar in a quarter. That's roughly seven

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<v Speaker 1>times the amount of solar that America installed in Q one.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a long way to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that American industry should be more committed

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<v Speaker 2>to beating China. Maybe this is like the only area

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<v Speaker 2>that I would condone that kind of like blind competition.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think it's really good that half of

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<v Speaker 2>new US electric generation is going to be solar.

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<v Speaker 3>It is also fair that new generation in America will

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<v Speaker 3>be a smaller number compared to China, where energy demand

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<v Speaker 3>is growing much much more rapidly, whereas actually energy demand

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<v Speaker 3>in America is falling.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I am not like too much of a booster.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is so great, but also, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what does this even represent in our electricity mix? And

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<v Speaker 2>it's just you know, natural gas is it by a

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<v Speaker 2>long shot. Another exciting thing is just like, so, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>if we are adding about they're protecting twenty gigaottes of

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<v Speaker 2>additional solar generation, but the last year eleven gigaatts of

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<v Speaker 2>coal was retired. So for perspectives, that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Christine, I've got a question for you, which is, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as you're driving around the US at the moment, do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're seeing more solar?

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<v Speaker 2>Biking around? I see a lot more solar. I went

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<v Speaker 2>on a really long bike trip recently and when we

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<v Speaker 2>were coming back, we passed like a utility scale solar

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<v Speaker 2>generation field and it was really shocking to see, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>because most of my life I didn't see that. I

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<v Speaker 2>also see tons of houses just where I live with

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<v Speaker 2>solar panels on their roofs, and it feels very exciting

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<v Speaker 2>also very like hilariously enough, someone on the local news

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you might think that Wisconsin can't use solar

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<v Speaker 2>that much. But actually all of our snow reflects even

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<v Speaker 2>more suns so like solar's great in snowy places.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, to be fair, I dumped on America

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<v Speaker 3>because of China's numbers. A closer comparison would be Europe.

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<v Speaker 3>And even Europe is, my goodness, so much further ahead

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<v Speaker 3>than America. In twenty twenty two, Europe installed forty gigawats

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<v Speaker 3>of solar, so that's all already twice what America is

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<v Speaker 3>going to install this year roughly.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, the good news is people are installing solo. And

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<v Speaker 1>on that showy note, let's go to the break. Yeh hi,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sucksh. I'll be traveling to Singapore, Sydney, Melbourne, and

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<v Speaker 1>Delhi over the next few weeks to record a few

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<v Speaker 1>episodes of Zero. I'll be hosting meetups and eat city

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the show. We've got some more numbers

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<v Speaker 2>to guess, Oscar. What is your number that you've brought?

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<v Speaker 1>My number is thirty thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a number of people.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it's a number of people, Yes, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not a number of people. Okay, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good number of people.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to go, it's the number of cyclists

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<v Speaker 2>doing something.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it a monetary unit or not?

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<v Speaker 1>It is not a monetary unit. It is not. Would

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<v Speaker 1>you like a clue?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I want a unit clue. I want a

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<v Speaker 2>unit clue.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to give you a unit clue because

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<v Speaker 1>it gets this too close too quickly. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you a clue. It's to do with

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<v Speaker 1>a country that Actuat just visited.

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<v Speaker 2>Paris, which is not a country, France. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is a distance. I think this is a distance. Is

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<v Speaker 2>it a distance? It is a distance, yes, okay. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's going to be something about rail.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's going to be the kilometers of bike

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<v Speaker 3>lane in France.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's annoyingly on point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, and getting the offset Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Was close too.

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<v Speaker 2>She gave it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is good. It's too no, so this is very

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<v Speaker 1>timely because of the tour of France is just about

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<v Speaker 1>to begin. In fact, depending on when this episode goes out,

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<v Speaker 1>it already might be halfway through. So Yes, thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>is thirty thousand kilometers, and that is the number of

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<v Speaker 1>kilometers of new cycle lanes that are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>built in France by twenty twenty seven, new new cycle

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<v Speaker 1>lanes in France by twenty twenty seven. And just for perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand is about three quarters of the length of

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<v Speaker 1>the equator wow, which is forty thousand kilometers. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they've got a target for twenty twenty seven or

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand klometers. They've got a target of twenty thirty

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<v Speaker 1>or fifty thousand kilometers, and they currently have fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>kilometers built, So by twenty thirty, basically they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>double the distance of cycle lanes.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are they building it? Like, are they so for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>like here all of our spike lanes are like next

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<v Speaker 2>to all railroads. Are they making new ones or is

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<v Speaker 2>it like I don't know, is there anything like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? The main focus is between cities and in kind

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<v Speaker 1>of more provincial cities. I think Paris has done a

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<v Speaker 1>very good job, especially during the pandemic. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>big success stories was how much they'd managed to expand

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<v Speaker 1>their cycle network. But I think the plan Is by

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty. They want to link all those cities together

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<v Speaker 1>to create like a huge national cycle network. And a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this comes from tourism as well. So estimates

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<v Speaker 1>from the Association for the Promotion of Cycling and Active

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<v Speaker 1>Travel said that cycle tourism in France contributed four point

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<v Speaker 1>five billion euros to the economy in twenty nineteen, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's a huge, huge industry there, and yeah, it's being

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<v Speaker 1>supported by two billion euros to twenty twenty seven to

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<v Speaker 1>actually make it happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Paris was the first continental European city I visited in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and nine, and the difference between that memory

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<v Speaker 3>of Paris where I went around it was February, was

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<v Speaker 3>very cold, went around taking lots and lots of photographs

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<v Speaker 3>with gloves on and seeing really no bike lanes to today,

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<v Speaker 3>when there's so many backplanes. It's pretty apparent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it's an amazing thing. If they get

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<v Speaker 1>that many cycle lanes all around the country, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is going to transform how people get around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially with e bikes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, e bikes, and that's a huge part of the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they've got something like five hundred million euros

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<v Speaker 1>and subsidies for people to buy new bikes. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to improve station parking and everything. So it's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>unified strategy that they want to turn France into the

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<v Speaker 1>true true nation of cycling, which it kind of already

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<v Speaker 1>is with the Tour de France.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, cool, so akshat. What was your guiding? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what was your strategy for finding your numbers?

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<v Speaker 3>I found six numbers in ten minutes, all numbers that

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<v Speaker 3>are positive for the climate. And I did that by

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<v Speaker 3>just going through my own tweets. Oh, I go too far.

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<v Speaker 1>Three days of tweets and I had the six numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I had more than six numbers. It's like the ones

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<v Speaker 1>I really that we should talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great tip for reporters, just like treat your

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter feed like your notebook of things you're comfortable sharing,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a great resource for stuff like this. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so funny. Maybe I'll start tweeting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go in about you.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you pick your numbers?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a subscriber to a newsleticlled Future Crunch, which if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't heard of it, I'd recommend subscribing to it.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing is picking positive numbers and bits of

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<v Speaker 1>data and stories that kind of fly below the radar,

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<v Speaker 1>but are usually quite gradual improvements in various things. They

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<v Speaker 1>do a lot of stuff about medicine, about conservation, and

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<v Speaker 1>also good climate numbers as well. So this thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>kilometer figure that came from the Future Crunch newsletter, Wow, Christine.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been working on an episode that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be about solar power. So I've been spending some time

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<v Speaker 2>looking into how much it's grown. And I'm always very

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<v Speaker 2>skeptical of positive numbers, and so I wanted to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure I knew exactly like what the US electric generation

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<v Speaker 2>was looking like. So I spent a lot of time

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<v Speaker 2>on the Energy Information Administration website as well as a

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<v Speaker 2>report from Wood McKenzie about the growth of solar And

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<v Speaker 2>I also really wanted to have a number that was

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<v Speaker 2>not about money and had happened in the past, so

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<v Speaker 2>like I knew that it was for real.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was a fun one.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for playing Who's number is it? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>With, and feel free to tweet at me with any

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<v Speaker 3>inspiring climate numbers. You never know we might feature them

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<v Speaker 3>on a future episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Zeros produces me Oscar Boyd, and Senior producer is Christine

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<v Speaker 1>driscoll Our theme music is by Wonderly Special Thanks this

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<v Speaker 1>week to care Binjum and if you're interested in all

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers we shared in this episode, check out the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Akshatrati back next week