1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 2: Let's go. 3 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Let's Giants on the Giants Bubble, give me some Job, 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: part of the Giants Podcast Network. Let's roll. We are 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: back for yet another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Today it's gonna be one of our longer player interview episodes. 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to the offensive line. We just put 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: these into two but since so many guys now play guard, 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: play tackle, we decide to put them all into one show, 11 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: which means there's going to be a lot of them. 12 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Because there are many offensive linemen on this roster. There's 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: competition for starting spots, for roster spots. It's a fun 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: group of guys, always good talking to the offensive line. 15 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Here we go, all right, Now we're joined by Giants 16 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: offensive lineman Jermaine lumin or Jermain how ware you man? 17 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: Good good, it's been it's been a good spring. 18 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: So compare where this group, your offensive line unit is 19 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: today to where you were at this time last year 20 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: when you were a new coach. You showed up for 21 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: the first time, a bunch of new faces. But now 22 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: you've kind of been together for another year. 23 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: I would say it's kind of hard ar answer that 24 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: question until we get at back. You know, obviously answer 25 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: the old line is not complete without him, and he's 26 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: a big part of the offensive line, So until we 27 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: get him back, it's hard to really say how the 28 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: offensive line is doing. 29 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 4: No. 30 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 2: I mean, in the spring, it was a good offense. 31 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: It was a good spring for the offensive line, you know, 32 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: going against the d line that we have probably one 33 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: of the best, if not the best, in the league. 34 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: And I'm sure that's show that once the past come 35 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: on in September. But it's hard to get a good 36 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: what's the word I'm looking for feel feel for the 37 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: offensive line because you know, Ryan is not any to 38 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: starting left guard. GV is really not practicing too much. 39 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: Like the only starters we had out there truly were 40 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: me and JMS. So who is our senat Jomichael? So 41 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: it's hard to truly say how the offensive line is not. Mentally, 42 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: everyone's doing great. You know, everyone knows what we had 43 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: to accomplish this year and everyone's ready for their challenge. 44 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: So I mean that part is going really well. 45 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: Does it provide you an opportunity though, too for you 46 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: to get an opportunity to get that chemistry with other 47 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: players that maybe you normally wouldn't since other guys have 48 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: been in and out, you know, running just came back 49 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: and GVRS had veteran days and all that stuff where 50 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: you know it goes. The odds are that all five 51 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: of you guys are playing seventeen games eighteen. This is 52 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. That's just not the reality of the league, right, 53 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: So does it help to Kenneth? All right, I'm next 54 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: to Stinny right now. Now I'm next to Neil. Now, 55 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, whatever to get koubis where you 56 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: can get a fuel for different guys. 57 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: I think that it's always good to get more guys 58 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: in there so they get cust into playing at the 59 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: speed that we have to play in order to get 60 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: the job done on Sunday. You know, like I said, 61 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: for a good part of my careers with the twos, 62 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: and every time you got up there with the ones, 63 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: the way things are presented and just how you got 64 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: to think on the flying things just hit the fan 65 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 2: right away, and you know you have to know where 66 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: you're going, who you're blocking, and who you're working with 67 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: right there and then, and it's just a lot of 68 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: bullets flying, and so to get those guys in there 69 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: and get them that type of experience, like working next 70 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: to me, working next to Schmidt, or whether it's on 71 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 2: the left side. You know, James Hutson is going to 72 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: be our smon tackle this year, So getting him in there, 73 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: getting him those solid reps and getting guards in that 74 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: playing next to him as well, or getting him next 75 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: to running it's definitely going to be huge too. 76 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: When you guys were all healthy for six games last year, 77 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: I thought the UNI played well. I think you were 78 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: pretty happy to have the UNI played, right. 79 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think we want to. 80 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: I mean we were on the rise for sure, especially 81 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: because it took a little bit to get the chemistry 82 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: in it. But I definitely thought we were one of 83 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: the better offensive lines in the league. 84 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: And I guess the reason I wanted to bring that 85 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: up is that I don't think you were a finished 86 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: product yet either, Like it was only six games, like, 87 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: so if you get that same five together, it could 88 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: even get better than what it was after those six games. 89 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 2: Right, I think that we were barely scraping the surface 90 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: with our offensive line. We played some really good defensive lines, 91 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: and you sure you saw our rush numbers and like 92 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: the sacks that we were limiting. And I think for 93 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: a good part of the season when all five vers 94 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: were in there, we're top of the lead for least 95 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: amount of sacks, pressures, hits and all those are a 96 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: good stats, so you know, and that just goes to 97 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: show that when all five versa out there and we're 98 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: all clicking, it's hard to beat us. And so that's 99 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: why I'm excited to get those same five outs there 100 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: this year and just do what we can. You know, 101 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: we have a harder scheduling lead. We have a lot 102 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: of good defensive lines. But you know, I know they're 103 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: thinking how I am, and they're excited for the challenge. 104 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: All right, final question we got guys waiting. You've had 105 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: a chance to block outdo Carter a bunch. Now there's 106 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: no pads, there's not a lot of contact, so your 107 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: experience is gonna be limited and you'll know more when 108 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: you get to the summer. From what you see from 109 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: just a physical skill set, do you get like third 110 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: overall pick? 111 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 5: Oh? 112 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy's got it. 113 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: I think that I like going against him because I'm 114 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: going against a lot of guys like that this year, 115 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: who just brings speed to power and one thing I 116 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: want to improve on and my technique is blocking better 117 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: at speed and blocking speed like Burns. So I love 118 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: going against guys like that, But Abdou is going to 119 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 2: be a problem. In my opinion. I think that a 120 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: lot of the a lot offensive lines are gonna struggle 121 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: to block him just because of his position horisatility and 122 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: where he can line up and how he can affect 123 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: the rusher. And then it's gonna single out certain guys 124 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: where it's like, you know, you're gonna try to double 125 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: team decks, okay, but then you're gonna leave burn or 126 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: Abdoor or Tims in the island where they're tackling. Obviously 127 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: they're great at their job. So I think that Abdua 128 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: was going to help this d line of this defense 129 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: and this team be great this year for me. 130 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: Good stuff, man, appreciate it, dude, Thank you very much. 131 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: All right, now we welcome in Giants Tackle James Hilson. James, 132 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: what's going on man? 133 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: That much? 134 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 6: Man? 135 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 4: How are you? 136 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing great? So you've had a ton of opportunity 137 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: to play with the ones in the spring here becaus 138 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas is still coming back from his injury. What 139 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: is that experience been like, you know, trying to work 140 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: with the guys with that first unit. 141 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 7: It's been great, man. We're I feel like we're getting 142 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 7: things down each practice. We're getting better and you know, 143 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 7: we're just going out there and working and getting the 144 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 7: chemistry together. 145 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: No, I'm not tracking you every play, so I might 146 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: have missed this. Please correct me if I'm in correct. 147 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: I feel like you've been almost exclusively at left tackle 148 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: or have you gotten some right tackle snaps in as well? 149 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: It's been exclusively left tackle? 150 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: Yes, what has that been like for you? Kind of 151 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: just trying to lock in as the swing tackle you 152 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: got obviously be able to do both, but really at 153 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: this point just locking in on left tackle. 154 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: It has been cool. 155 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 8: Man. 156 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 7: Last season I spent most of my time on the 157 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 7: left side, so you know last year was cut short 158 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 7: due to injury. But you know it was just picking 159 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 7: up right I left off, man, just you know, knocking 160 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 7: the rest off and you know, getting back used to 161 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 7: taking pass sets and you know, run blocking and everything 162 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 7: like that. So you know, it's just getting back used 163 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 7: to it. 164 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: No, is this just the only plan. I imagine once 165 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: you get to the to the summer, they're going to 166 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: make sure you're comfortable on the right side as well, too. 167 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, correct, I'll be working by both sides for sure, definitely. 168 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: So what has it been like going against this this 169 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: group of giants edge rushers, which are pretty darn talented 170 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: with with burns and tips and I do a part 171 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: of the rookie What has it been like going against 172 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: them in practice? 173 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 7: They are definitely They're definitely good, man. They're definitely going 174 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 7: to have a hell of a year. 175 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: Man. 176 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 7: Those guys can rush the passer and I could just imagine, 177 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 7: you know, adding in ninety seven to that mix. Man, 178 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 7: it's go, it's go get crazy. So, uh, I can't 179 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 7: wait to see those guys get after the queue. Man, 180 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 7: that's a special group. 181 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: So as for the offensive line, they were turning a 182 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: lot of the same guys from last year. You're one 183 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: of the new guys. You're trying to fit in with 184 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: the group. How have they kind of welcome you in 185 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: and kind of vited you and got you into the 186 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: offensive line culture that they've kind of built you with Carlos. 187 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 3: They really welcome me with open rs. 188 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 7: Man, those guys in that room, man, are their top 189 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 7: of the line guys, man, and love those guys already. Man, 190 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 7: I can't wait to, you know, just keep building a 191 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 7: relationship and you know, keep getting to know them hopefully 192 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 7: you know, meet their families, meet their kids, you know, 193 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 7: because I feel like that's that's huge on the offensive line, 194 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 7: you know, having that that chemistry and having that that 195 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 7: level of trust. Uh So, you know, I just can't 196 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 7: wait to, you know, just continue this thing going and 197 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 7: keep getting better and keep learning the guys and you know, 198 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 7: building those relationships. 199 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: I know Calin Brisillo tends to try to meet guys halfway. 200 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: If there's something you're really comfortable doing, he will try 201 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: to fit into a scheme if he can. But how 202 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: is what you did in Cleveland kind of match similar 203 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: or different than what you're being asked to do here? 204 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 7: It's pretty similar, man, It's not too much of you know, 205 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 7: a difference between the technique and everything that we're doing 206 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 7: here versus what I learned in Cleveland. You know, I 207 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 7: have Bill Callahan as my as my offensive line coach, 208 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 7: and you know, Karmez has addressed that, you know, he 209 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 7: he's gotten some of his things that he coaches now 210 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 7: from from coach Caln So yeah, I mean it's it's 211 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 7: it's to carry over for sure. 212 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: Really good James, good stuff. Man, appreciate the best luck 213 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: this year, my man, sir, thank you very much. And 214 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: now we're doing by Giant center John Michel Smitch jam 215 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: that's what's going on. 216 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 9: Manson much man having a good have a good start 217 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 9: to the summer and looking forward to the season. 218 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: So when your season into the last year and you 219 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: look back at your year, what'd you think of it? 220 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: How did you evaluate it? 221 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean you gotta be tough on yourself. I 222 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 9: mean we went back, looked at the film, watched it 223 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 9: and knew there was a room to improve and knew 224 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 9: that there was levels of my game that I needed 225 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 9: to focus on this offseason. And that's why and that's 226 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 9: what we put a focus too. Uh, talked talking with 227 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 9: the coaches and stuff like that. 228 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: So, yeah, what were some of the areas that you 229 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: kind of honed it on? Did the little red sharp 230 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: and you circled it that you really tried to lock 231 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: in on to try to get better on hitting into 232 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: your three? 233 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 9: For you, Yeah, I would say, uh, in past protection, 234 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 9: just footwork, back there and then and uh, you talk 235 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 9: about the run game, just securing second level blocking and 236 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 9: getting up to the second level and just staying on 237 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 9: those blocks just a tad, just a tad longer than 238 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 9: I have been. 239 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: So, yeah, how valuable is it for you to have 240 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: two veteran guards next to you in running and Van 241 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: Roten you had him for most of last year. They're 242 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: both back again. What does that do for you as 243 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: a center? 244 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, I would say, I mean, they are tremendous players, definitely, 245 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 9: I have a veteran offensive line is a great thing. 246 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 9: They've been They've been around a lot, they know a 247 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 9: thing or two, and so it's nice when we get 248 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 9: into the room if we are talking about something, if 249 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 9: we're going back and forth to how we see this 250 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 9: front and kind of pick their brains of just of 251 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 9: how to develop my brain as an offensive lineman in 252 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 9: my IQ. 253 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: One of the biggest challenges I think for all centers 254 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know, you look at the depth 255 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: darts of two teams go up against each other. A 256 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: lot of times, if you're playing an odd front, you're 257 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: gonna have a guy that maybe outweighs you by forty 258 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: or fifty pounds lined up right on your nose right 259 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: and you have the snap you have to get. You 260 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: start with one hand and you get the second hand 261 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: them eventually. What are some of the things that you 262 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: try to lock in that you think are very important 263 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: when you're dealing with those really big defensive tackles that 264 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: you got to block one on one in some of 265 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: these situations to be effective against those guys in pass 266 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: pro and in the one game. 267 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, different ways that we can attack them. This all 268 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 9: starts during the start of the week, just talking about 269 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 9: the best runs for that sort of defense. So it 270 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 9: could be an outside zone if especially if I have 271 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 9: a head up nose, easy to climb up to second 272 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 9: level and let the guard. Basically you call it a scoop. 273 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 9: Scoop the nose and seal them off and see them off. 274 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 9: So I would say that would be a good one 275 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 9: if you're looking at that, I mean, you talk about 276 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 9: just a big nose in front of you for pass protection. 277 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 9: Just if he's not really a shifty guy, then you're 278 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 9: more likely to jump set the guy. So get on 279 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 9: him right away, bring the fight to him, be more 280 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 9: aggressive in your past set. So it's just a little 281 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 9: uh it's a little it's a little something that we 282 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 9: talk about during the week. 283 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: That's interesting. How much how useful is it in the 284 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: summer going up against a guy like Decks. We'll be 285 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: in that position now. He's going to be a lot 286 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: more athletic than a lot of the guys. Yeah, yeah, 287 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: So talk about the challenge of and and how it 288 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: helps you having a chance to work against a guy 289 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: like Decks each each week in practice and during the summer. 290 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, first and foremost, he brings a great 291 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 9: challenge every time you go against him. So he's only 292 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 9: helping us get better as a as a line. So 293 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 9: and kind of just picking his brain of what he 294 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 9: looks for going against an offensive line and especially the interior, 295 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 9: how he reads the slide or something like that. So 296 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 9: I would say he's really good at getting to your 297 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 9: hands and stuff. So I'll just say hand striking, replacement 298 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 9: of the hand of your paunch, all that all that 299 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 9: ties in just uh uh. Not a lot of people 300 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 9: really notice, uh what goes into pass protection. 301 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: That's why I so. 302 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 9: Obviously, like we talked about before, your your feet play 303 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 9: as much as a big as role as your hands. 304 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 4: So you gotta have a good feed too. 305 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: All right, final question, what have you learned working with 306 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson in terms of identifying Yeah, what defense is 307 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: trying to do, protections, sliding protections and stuff like that. 308 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: What's it been like working with him? Yeah? 309 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 9: I mean he's extremely smart. Love picking his brain, love 310 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 9: just talking with him, just talking ball on and off 311 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 9: the field. And he's just been a tremendous help to 312 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 9: this or to this team. And uh, he's very knowledgeable 313 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 9: to the game. 314 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: Got respect for him. 315 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, John Michael, good stuff, man, appreciate the time. 316 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: All right, thank you. 317 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: The Giants Total Podcast is brought to you by Citizens, 318 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: the Official Bank of the Giants. 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First off, how's do we have gone this offseason? 333 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: That was pretty serious injury you had. 334 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: How you feeling Yeah, I'm feeling good. Just taking my 335 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 3: time with it. 336 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 7: Don't really have a projection right now, but doing everything 337 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 7: that the Chinas are telling me, and you know, hopefully 338 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 7: I'm ready to go. 339 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: Well, Giant fans what they're most concerned with. You think 340 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,119 Speaker 1: week one of the season, you think you'll be okay. 341 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: That's the goal, but you know we're trying not to 342 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 3: make any prediction. It's just trying to get ready. 343 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I went back after the injury happened. I tried 344 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: to find the play and I gotta saw the play. 345 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: Then you started living afterwards. But they didn't even seem to 346 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: be like a misstep, like this is something that happened 347 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: over the course of the game, Like when you look back, 348 00:13:58,559 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: like how did it even go down? 349 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 7: Definitely a missed I felt. I felt it for sure, 350 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 7: and I was going against a really good pass rusher 351 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 7: Andre Son, So it happened. I think in the second 352 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 7: quarter we were in the red zone, just a normal 353 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 7: down block and you know it just went but obviously 354 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 7: stuck it out. Kind of hard hitded but that's you know, 355 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 7: that's the nature of an office alignment. So hopefully that 356 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 7: don't happen again. 357 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: No, I absolutely not. Yeah. When I say misstap, I 358 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: mean you didn't step on somebody's foot. It wasn't it. It 359 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: just looked like a regular kicking. You know, it happens 360 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: when you try now and you're watching. How do you 361 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: try to help your group move along here and get 362 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: better even though you haven't been on the field in 363 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: the spring. 364 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I would say the benefit of this 365 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 7: year this offseason, we really didn't have much turnover, much change. Yeah, 366 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 7: a lot of veteran presence in the room. And then 367 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 7: you know with Karen and James, they do a great 368 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 7: job of teaching the guys. So we're just trying to 369 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 7: make sure we streamline everything, get on the same page. 370 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 7: Obviously it's just OTA, so it's not real football yet. 371 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 7: But we're still working on technique and watching film breaking 372 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 7: down and I you know, get my input when I can't. 373 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: When you look back at the last two injuries you've had, 374 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean they're freak things like you're chasing down a 375 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: guy ahead a block kick, you know, the foot like 376 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: it's nothing that you can do in training to prevent that. 377 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: So mentally, how do you kind of get through that 378 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: and figure out how to prevent these things even though 379 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways they're not preventable, you know 380 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: what I mean. 381 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's definitely frustrating, but it's just a game. Injuries 382 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 7: are one hundred percent in the NFL, So just do 383 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 7: my best to prepare each each week, each day to 384 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 7: try to be ready to go. You can't control the outcome, 385 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 7: or you can control as your mindset and how you approach, 386 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 7: you know, getting better when something does happen. So that's 387 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 7: what I try to do. 388 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: What do you think a good set of goals would 389 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: be for the offensive line as a group heading into 390 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: year two with Carmen Brisola. I'm sure it's nice having 391 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: the same coach and the same schemes and all that 392 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: to do a second year. What do you think a 393 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: good set of goals would be in and what do 394 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: you think this group can do being together now for 395 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: a second year with the same coach. 396 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think the first thing is continuity. Obviously, 397 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 7: we have a different quarterback room this year, so just 398 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 7: get on the same page and then I would say, 399 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 7: just collectively as an old line, just being more dominant upfront, 400 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 7: consistent in a run game, and doing really well protecting 401 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 7: the quarterback. 402 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: It's funny. We had Nate Solder here and he had 403 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: come from the Patriots to Tom Brady right right, and 404 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: I talked to him about it, and he goes, look, 405 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: I had to change the way I blocked for Eli 406 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: Manning versus Tom Brady just because of the depth of 407 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: their drops and how they operate in the pocket and 408 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: stuff like that. So how do you think it's going 409 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: to be different blocking for a guy like Russell Wilson 410 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: as compared to maybe what you've had so far here 411 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: in your career. 412 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it will take some time to get 413 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 7: a fell and I think the same for him getting 414 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 7: a feel for the receivers. 415 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: And sure we've been working on a knens. 416 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 7: You know, everybody does things a little bit differently, so 417 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 7: we're just trying to go on the same page. That's 418 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 7: what LTA's and campus for. And he's a very talented 419 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 7: quarterback and he's smart, so I'm excited to work with him. 420 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: You talk about working with a smart quarterback that's been 421 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: through it for an offensive lineman, doesn't give you a 422 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: sense of comfort knowing that you have a quarterback back 423 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: there that has literally seen everything and has to help 424 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: you guys. 425 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure, it's like having a coach on the field. 426 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 7: Obviously he has a ton of experience. He's only try 427 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 7: to put us in the best opportunity possible. So that's 428 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 7: that's a good feeling as office A linement. 429 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: I gotta imagine. And then the run game last year, 430 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: I thought you guys made some great strides in terms 431 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: of creating space, and you did it with using a 432 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: lot of different schemes depending on the game. Sometimes it 433 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: was zoned, sometimes it was power. Sometimes we were pulling 434 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: guys duo, double teams, things like that. As the year 435 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: went along, what do you think that your group came 436 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: together the best of What were you doing best in 437 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: the run game as last season concluded? 438 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think last year, just dealing with the injuries, 439 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 7: it was a lot of turnover and I think that 440 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 7: that hurts the continuity. But I think towards the end 441 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 7: we were running duo really well. That's what I thought 442 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 7: to us, that's kind of like what we you know, 443 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 7: hang our hats on. We have physical guys up front, 444 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 7: so hopefully we can continue that this season. 445 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: We talk about blocking different quarterbacks, you have to block 446 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: different for running backs too, based on who's in the backfield. 447 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 7: Not really, I think we have a plethora of different 448 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 7: running backs that have different skills. But up front, we 449 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 7: try to approach it the same way. Just create space, 450 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 7: just let them do what they do exactly. 451 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: Awesome for you personally. Once you get back on the 452 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: field and you're healthy, do you have any goals that 453 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: you've set out for yourself for this year that you're 454 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: trying to achieve. 455 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm going to be a captain again this year. 456 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 7: I think that's a big thing. And then obviously play 457 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 7: all the games. You know, the Giants get the suit up. 458 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 7: That's that's the main goal. I think if I'm out there, 459 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 7: I can perform at a high level. 460 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: And I got to ask you this just because I 461 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: think the Giants might have the best edge group in 462 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: the in the whole division, and you guys have the 463 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: Super Bowl Championship division. I think that's how good this 464 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: edge group is. Are you looking forward to when you 465 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: get out there and you're healthy and you get the 466 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: pads onto, you know, block and burns, seeing what Abdul 467 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: Carter's got and just seeing what this defensive front is 468 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: as a whole is going to bring on Sundays. 469 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 7: Now, campus is going to be so fun. We're going 470 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 7: to get a test each and every day, but it's 471 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 7: going to prepare us for Sundays. So I'm definitely looking 472 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 7: forward to those matchups. 473 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: At you men, appreciate you, dude, get healthy man, Thank you. 474 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: And now we're joined by Giants offensive woman John Running Junior. 475 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 4: John. 476 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: How are you man? 477 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 11: I'm doing well. 478 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: Good to see you. 479 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: So what was the rehabit situation like for you this offseason? 480 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: Kind of getting back on the field and getting ready 481 00:18:58,960 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: to go. 482 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 11: Yeah, had surgery back in mid December and stayed up 483 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 11: here the whole off season. I have a great training staff, 484 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 11: great doctors and helped me along the way and slowly 485 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 11: made my way back transitioning into the weight room and 486 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 11: getting back on the field for OTAs and everything's been 487 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 11: smooth and feeling good and have had no setbacks and 488 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 11: feeling healthy going into the season. 489 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: You know, offensive lineman can't do a ton of the springs. 490 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: Why was important for you to get back onto the 491 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: field for OTA and not just you know, wait, till 492 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: the end of July when training camp comes along. 493 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's good to be out there with the guys. 494 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 11: And we got a couple of new additions the offensive 495 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 11: line and just I mean, this is my second year 496 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 11: here with the team and still getting you know, those 497 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 11: individual and as many team reps as possible, just getting 498 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 11: that cohesiveness amongst everybody, and you know, get the good 499 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 11: you know, new year energy flowing and been enjoining out here. 500 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 11: We've had a great spring so far. 501 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: What are some of the things as an offensive line 502 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: you can do in a spring in the spring to 503 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: help chemistry, continuity and things like that that can benefit 504 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: you down the road. 505 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 506 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 11: Kind of in the classroom with Kush, Karm and James, 507 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 11: just really kind of dialing in our scheme and seeing 508 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 11: just like how people from you know, different you know, 509 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 11: football branches kind of how they seem this offense and 510 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 11: what we think best works for us going forward and 511 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 11: the type of offense we're going to be and the 512 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 11: type of the scheme we're going to run. So kind 513 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 11: of getting that figured out and going out there and 514 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 11: applying it on the field against you know, we got 515 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 11: a really good defense out here, and it's been really 516 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 11: nice being able to you know, compete against them, and 517 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 11: this ota period and going forward just only going to 518 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 11: benefit us. And yeah, like I said, just the spring 519 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 11: and being with the new guys and being the alarm 520 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 11: is a new new energy, kind of refreshed and everybody's 521 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 11: been really enthusiastic about it. 522 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: At the same time, a lot of the same guys 523 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: coming back to I mean, there's a chance you could 524 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: have the same five and the same five spots starting 525 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: Week one that you had last year. What value does 526 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: that add when you're trying to put together this group 527 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: that works and acts as one when you're on the 528 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: field on game day. 529 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 11: Yeah, last year early in the season, you know, I 530 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 11: feel like up front we played really well together when 531 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 11: we had our Week one starters out there, and about 532 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 11: a month in the season, you know, so you know, 533 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 11: what happened happened. 534 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 5: And. 535 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 11: Somet new guys that go in there. But I really 536 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 11: felt early on in the season, you know, we weren't 537 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 11: getting every single win that we had wanted, but I 538 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 11: felt like we were really building something with that unit 539 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 11: of you know, those five six guys that we have 540 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 11: playing up front and going forward, I only look, I 541 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 11: don't only see us expanding on that and getting even 542 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 11: better going forward. 543 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: What do you think this team or your group specifically 544 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: does best in the run game. What do you think 545 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: your best scheme is in terms of moving guys are 546 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: just crazy as much space as you can in the 547 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: run game. 548 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think this group is going to be very 549 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 11: pass protection unit. We have a bunch of quarterbacks back 550 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 11: there who very capable of getting the ball downfield, and 551 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 11: like you said, we kind of focused on this ot 552 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 11: a period, is trying to hone in on which scheme 553 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 11: kind of fits his best. And I think I think 554 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 11: we're able to kind of do a lot of things 555 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 11: and what we'll really try to hone in that on 556 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 11: training camp and see what's really working. But we have 557 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 11: a really good feel going forward to what uh we're 558 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 11: gonna like to do throughout the whole season. And I 559 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 11: mean everything lives and dies in the NFL by pass protection, 560 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 11: So we're we're gonna we're gonna really hone in on 561 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 11: that and that's gonna be. 562 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: Our bread and butter. 563 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 4: All Right. 564 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: Finally, when you get the camp, are you looking forward 565 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: to going against this defensive line group? Is it got 566 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: really deep and really good over the offseason with all 567 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: the guys that added into that role. 568 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 11: Sure, yeah, I remember uh looking over on the Instagram 569 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 11: in the off season seeing how many defensive linemen we sign, 570 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 11: free agents we signed, and you know, drafting Abdul is 571 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 11: gonna be a great addition and get everybody back healthy 572 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 11: on the defensive it's gonna be It's gonna be awesome 573 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 11: to face in training camp and just kind of build 574 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 11: us up up front and gonna get the most satisfaction 575 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 11: when you see them out there, you know, being the 576 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 11: other offensive lines butts that we're playing against whatever week. 577 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 11: That is so excited looking forward to that part and 578 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 11: looking forward to grinding with them in training camp. 579 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: Thanks Jea, appreciate the man, of course, thank you. And 580 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: now we're joined by a Giants offensive lineman, Greg ven Rodin. Greg, 581 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: what's going on? 582 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 8: Man? 583 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 4: Not much excited to be here, all right? 584 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: So let's second your back with the Giants. How thrilled 585 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: were you to get the call that you were gonna 586 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: be back and also not kind of coming in late 587 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: and being here during the spring too. 588 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 12: Definitely happy to sign early in free agency, and there's 589 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 12: I think a huge benefit of just being on a 590 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 12: team during OTA's when you get to kind of be 591 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 12: around the guys and kind of help just kind of 592 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 12: get the ball rolling for the next season. 593 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: Now you've been doing this a long time. How valuable 594 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: is it for a team to be able to bring 595 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: back the same five starters and look, we'll see what 596 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: it looks like week one that you had in the 597 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: building last year. 598 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 4: It's huge. 599 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 12: Like continuity is I think always talked about but maybe 600 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 12: slightly underrated. So we get a chance to see what 601 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 12: that looks like for our room this year where we're 602 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 12: bringing back a lot of the same guys. The whole 603 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 12: offense really is a lot of continuity, a lot of 604 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 12: familiar faces. So it's definitely exciting to be able to 605 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 12: kind of build and grow as an offense. 606 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: What can fans look for from an offensive line when 607 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: they watch on a Sunday there at home? That shows 608 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: that you guys do have the continuity and it does 609 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: make a difference. 610 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 12: I think as long as they're not doing close ups 611 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 12: of individual players for bad reasons, that's usually a good 612 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 12: sign for an offensive line. If we're if you can't 613 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 12: notice us, that's usually a good thing. And if you 614 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 12: do notice us, hopefully it's in the run game. 615 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: Fair I imagined the two things that would be bad signs, 616 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: right is issues with games, right, passing off stunts that 617 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: means continuity not where you want it to be. And 618 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: then free runners. Right, those are the two things that 619 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: you want to really avoid. I imagine right. 620 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 12: Games specifically for offensive line. Yeah, that's definitely one hundred percent, 621 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 12: like something that we handle. Free runners can be a 622 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 12: combination of you know, scheme and communication, quarter back protection 623 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 12: calls with steahs could be maybe the back didn't scan 624 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 12: or something like that. So those things happen. They're not 625 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 12: always on the offensive line. Usually it's our job to 626 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 12: kind of set the table and then you know, we 627 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 12: go from there. 628 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: What can you get out of the spring? You know, 629 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: there are no pads, there's not really any contact. So 630 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: what kind an offensive line the veteran like you with 631 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: your group together, what can you guys get out of 632 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: the spring work? 633 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 12: I think it's a unique opportunity to kind of get 634 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 12: together and specifically work on like technique and then we 635 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 12: talk about setting together. So like, if you're by yourself 636 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 12: at home work on your PAS sets, that's one thing. 637 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 12: But if I'm with Jermaine and John Michael and work 638 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 12: together and we're talking about specific protection against a specific look, Hey, 639 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 12: like you need to be a little bit more vertical here, 640 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 12: or I need you to carry this guy a little 641 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 12: bit more for me here. So just like little nuanced 642 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 12: things like that that we can kind of dial in 643 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 12: on this time of year make a huge difference in 644 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 12: this like fall when we're playing real football. 645 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: And it looks like carn Brisol has gone out of 646 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: his way to kind of mix in a bunch of 647 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: different guys with different groups. Is that so each unit 648 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: in case our injuries during the year can have chemistry 649 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: with each other. 650 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think guys are playing different spots, guys are 651 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 12: playing different lines. I think it's just we have a 652 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 12: lot of depth inside and we have a lot of 653 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 12: guys that we can play tackle too. So it's like 654 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 12: we want to get guys rolling, you know, playing together 655 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 12: so that they have that comfortability when maybe they're playing 656 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 12: next to each other in a game. 657 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: One guy that's moved inside, he was outside for the 658 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: most part of his NFL career. He did it his 659 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: first year in college. Is playing guard as Evan Neil. 660 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: Have you worked with him and what has it been 661 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: like working with him trying to get reintegrated to the inside, 662 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: something that he had done previously. 663 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 12: Switching positions is hard. When I was in college, I 664 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 12: played tackle. I got to the NFL, I was not 665 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 12: a tackle, so I moved to guard, and then after 666 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 12: my first few weeks, they started cross training me at center. 667 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 12: So definitely your world starts spinning a little bit when 668 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 12: you're trying to switch positions, and then in the NFL 669 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 12: just that much harder because you got guys that have 670 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 12: probably done it their whole careers at a specific spot, 671 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 12: so hey, we got to learn something new. So it's 672 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 12: like the offense hasn't changed too much, but your technique 673 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 12: changes a ton, So you know, it's it's not an 674 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 12: easy thing to do, but we have a great offensive 675 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 12: line coach. We've got a really good room and a 676 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 12: lot of hands to help. 677 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: Now, moving from tackle to guard, obviously it's easier because 678 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: you have less distance to cover, but it's also a 679 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: lot more difficult because the guys right on top of you. 680 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: So what are some of the challenges that you're going 681 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: to face like you did when you're moving from tackle 682 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: into guard. 683 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 12: Yeah, I would never use the word easy when I 684 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 12: talk about like sportific positions in the NFL. I just 685 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 12: think it's different whereas you know. I talked to Jermaine 686 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 12: about this, because Jermaine is someone who's played both guard 687 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 12: and tackle in the NFL, and he said that, like 688 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 12: he thinks, you have to block more athletic people on 689 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 12: the edge, but your world is a little bit smaller 690 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 12: where you don't have to see maybe the whole defense 691 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 12: or the whole picture. When you play inside center guard, 692 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 12: they're definitely bigger dudes, but they're not as athletic as 693 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 12: the guys out on the edge. But you need to 694 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 12: make sure you see both sides of the street and 695 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 12: then the whole picture because there's not off and where 696 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 12: you're just I'm gonna block this guy and my job's done. 697 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 12: It's usually people are moving, defenses are shifting, they're blitzing, 698 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 12: Safeties are in the box. So there's a lot going 699 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 12: on inside. And the closer you get to center, the 700 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 12: more you need to know how the center sees things 701 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 12: so that you can see things like he does. 702 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: All right, I want ask you got the run game 703 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: real quick before we say goodbye. I think car and 704 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: Basolo did a great job last year. You guys did 705 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: everything right. You ran inside zone, outside zone, you did gap, 706 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: you did a lot of duo stuff late in the 707 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: year power. What's the challenge for an offensive lineman? You 708 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: have to be prepared for all those different types of 709 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: run schemes depending on what the opponent's going to show 710 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: you what might work that particular week. 711 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 12: Definitely a challenge, but I also think it's an advantage 712 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 12: where a defense doesn't really know what they're going to 713 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 12: get out of us week to week. And I think 714 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 12: you know, there's definitely gonna be things that we specialize in. 715 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 12: Just given the stature of our offensive line. We're not 716 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 12: a bunch of huge guys, but we're very strong and athletic, 717 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 12: So with that, you're going to see a good amount 718 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 12: of zone. But we do run a good amount of 719 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 12: duo too, So it's kind of like, if you stop 720 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 12: one thing or you say you're going to take something 721 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 12: away by game plan, we have this other tool in 722 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 12: our bag. 723 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: Finally, this group as a whole, you've been around some 724 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: really good offensive lines in your career. You've probably been 725 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: around someone that haven't worked out as well. What's the 726 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: ceiling of this group? If everything comes again, everything works 727 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: out what could this offensive line look like for Giant 728 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: fans when they tune in every Sunday. 729 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 12: I think we have the ability to be very good 730 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 12: offensive line. I think people sometimes get hung up on 731 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 12: who was drafted where and experience and experience young guys whatever. 732 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 12: I just think that we have a group that works 733 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 12: well together. We have an O line coach that puts 734 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 12: us in good positions, and we have the ability to 735 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 12: go as far as we want to go. 736 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: Who's the next next head coach? 737 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. Shouldn't fire tips in my opinion. 738 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: But I think I'm on board it. 739 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, they seemed to be get denied by a lot 740 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: of people. 741 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: Good stuff, GVR, Thanks, I appreciate it. 742 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 4: My pleasure. 743 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 10: If you want to know how to manage two minutes 744 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 10: of crunch time football, I'm your band. But if you're 745 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 10: wondering about a long term financial plan, you should. 746 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: Talk to citizens. Hey, I can also talk long care. 747 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 10: I'd like to learn about a Molli routine. Yes, I 748 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 10: knew I could help make sense of your money with citizens. 749 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: And now we're joined by Giants. Offensive lineman Evan Neil Evan, 750 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: how are you man? 751 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: I'm doing good man, great to be here all right? 752 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: First things, First, tell me if I'm wrong, is this 753 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: your first heading into it off season where you're not 754 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: dealing with a serious injury recovery where you actually had 755 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: a full off season where you can pretty much just 756 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: worry about training and that's it. 757 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 8: Well, my second season going into the NFL out didn't 758 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 8: have any injuries, didn't have anything. So it's my first 759 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 8: season since here two. 760 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: How as much has that helped you knowing you're going 761 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: through a position change that you've only had to focus 762 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: on football and that's it. 763 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 8: I think it's good. It's always great to go into 764 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 8: a season feeling healthy. I can get the most out 765 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 8: of my training, I can get the most out of 766 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 8: practicing on the field, and you know, not worry about 767 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 8: a nagging injury getting in the way of anything. 768 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: What have you tried to do to help make that 769 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: position switch a little bit smooth? Obviously it's a position 770 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: you've played before, it's been a while, But what are 771 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: some things you've done this offseason to try to get 772 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: ready for that? 773 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 8: Really, just stay on top of my health standing healthy 774 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 8: health is a big component. I do a lot of 775 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 8: work on my hip, so my range of motion and 776 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 8: my hips. Everything on offensive lineman does is out of 777 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 8: a bent squad position, so being able to access that 778 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 8: range of motion has been really good for me. And 779 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 8: since I've been back here with the Giants working in 780 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 8: no tas, just getting the field, getting back on the inside, 781 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 8: getting into a left guard stance, I think I've been 782 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 8: getting better as the practices has been going on and 783 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 8: just gonna, you know, continue to develop. 784 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: Has it been a bigger adjustment moving inside or moving 785 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: back to the left side. 786 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 3: That's a good question. 787 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 8: Since I've been playing on the right side for the 788 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 8: past three years, you know, my gate kind of got 789 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 8: adjusted to, you know, being a right sided player. So 790 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 8: it's just a it took a little bit of TLC 791 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 8: as I like to call it, just getting back into 792 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 8: my left hand stance and getting my hips and my 793 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 8: gate shifted back to the left side. But you know 794 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 8: it's been coming along pretty good. 795 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: You feel pretty good about it where you are, yeah, 796 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: I do. So what are the challenges that are unique 797 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: to playing guard versus the playing tackle? 798 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 8: If you're asking me, it's all football, man, So it's 799 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 8: challenging playing offensive line in the NFL as it is, 800 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,719 Speaker 8: But on the inside, you know, things are a lot 801 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 8: more physical on the inside. It's a lot more banging. 802 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 8: It's a lot more physical. You're putting a lot more gap, scheme, pools, 803 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 8: power plays, things of that nature, and things maybe happen 804 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 8: a hair quicker on the inside, Uh, just picking up 805 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 8: blitzes and things of that nature. But you know, things 806 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 8: happen just as fast out at tackling my opinion as well. 807 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 8: So I'm just ready to embrace this new change and 808 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 8: go out and be the best that I can be. 809 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: The guys are just lined up closer to you, right, 810 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: I mean, the these these three techniques are going to 811 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: be right on your shoulder. What do you have to 812 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: do to make sure you're ready for that quick contact 813 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: and then really bursting in getting to you right off 814 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: the snap? Is just that be really being aware of 815 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: the snap can and being ready to go as soon 816 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: as the ball snapped. 817 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 8: Percent It's a little bit easier because at that guard 818 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 8: you're right next to the center, so your peripheral vision 819 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 8: you can see the center. It's a bit easier, and yeah, 820 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 8: you have a guy right in front of you. The 821 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 8: thing I noticed about guard, especially in past protection, is 822 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 8: just having the ability to get your hands on the 823 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 8: before he can get to you. So things happen quicker 824 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 8: from that regard. But it's all about like reflexes and 825 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 8: and reacting. So I've been feeling really good on the field, 826 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 8: like I've been adjusting well to that speed or whatever 827 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 8: you want to call it. 828 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: So, ex you probably don't have as many long players 829 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: at defensive tackle, right, Some of the edge you guys 830 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: have longer arms sometimes, So can you ruin utilize your 831 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: length well against some of these guys where you can 832 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: get your hands on them quick and kind of lock 833 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: them out, That can of give you an advantage playing inside. 834 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not going to say that because I 835 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 8: mean you have big, physical, long guys on the inside. 836 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 8: I mean Dexter Lawrence was one of them. Whenever Leonard Williams, 837 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 8: he was another guy, big long armed guy. So if anything, 838 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 8: just being in close quarters and being able to get 839 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 8: your hands on a guy, that's that's going on. 840 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: All right, final question, there's less room to maneuver, right. 841 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: You know, the first thing sometimes you got to worry 842 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: about if you line up against one of these speed 843 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: rushers you're playing tackle, is you got to get wide 844 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: enough on your kick. Right, you have a little less 845 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: room to cover at guard, right, has that been a 846 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: little bit of an adjustment with how you operate with 847 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: your feet on the inside, just because you have less 848 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: room to cover your operating a little bit more of 849 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: a phone booth tackle. 850 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 8: I wouldn't say you needed to get wide. Some coaches 851 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 8: teach a forty five degree angle, some coaches teach vertical. 852 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 8: You know, it's all about getting your body in relation 853 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 8: to that way you can you know, mirror your defender. 854 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 8: You know, you can sit down on the bull rush, 855 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 8: or you know you can get them wide enough to 856 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 8: run them around the quarterback. You know that guard. You know, 857 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 8: things are pretty much on a lateral plane. You know 858 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 8: what I'm saying. You know, they teach us that tackles 859 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 8: set the width of the pocket and guard set the 860 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 8: depth of the pocket. So from that perspective, those that's 861 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 8: the difference. 862 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: Finally, we talked past pro when you talk about the 863 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: run game and be an inside a guard, you mentioned 864 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: it being a very physical position. Right, you have to 865 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: pull a little bit sometimes too, maybe a little bit 866 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: whether you have to tackle. What are some of the 867 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: things that you're trying to tackle in your off season 868 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: training heading into camp when it's going to be a 869 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: lot more physical in the run game, playing inside rather 870 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: than now. 871 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 8: I've always been a pretty good run blocker. Yeah, so 872 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 8: I think that's one of my strengths in this game. So, 873 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 8: I mean, whenever the pass come on, I mean, it's 874 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 8: just time to go out there, stick your nose in it. 875 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 8: I Mean, it's nothing really you can train for in 876 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 8: the off season for that type of contact. So I'm 877 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 8: just ready to go out there and put the pads 878 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 8: on and get to work, have some fun. 879 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: But we can't wait to see it that having good 880 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: stuff man, best of walking guard. Now we're joined by 881 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: a Giants offensive lineman, rookie Marcus. Marcus? 882 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 11: What's up man? 883 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 3: What's going on? 884 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 4: How you doing? So? 885 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: How has NFL life been for the first three months? 886 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 3: It's been great. I'm loving it. 887 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 6: Just loving being able to, you know, be a pro 888 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 6: every day and work on my craft and get better. 889 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: Now you've been primarily a right tackle, right, have you 890 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: gotten much work at some of the other spots? 891 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 8: You know? 892 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: Have they really kind of just run to start at 893 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: the one spot to start? 894 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 6: I've been playing a lot of you know, tackle left 895 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 6: and right left too. 896 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 897 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 6: So, uh, but for the most part. I mean I've 898 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 6: been working everything, you know, staying fresh on whatever, so 899 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 6: ready to go. 900 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: How has it been trying to learn car and Briscillo, 901 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: his system, his calls and kind of how he wants 902 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: you guys to operate. 903 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 6: I think it's been, you know, pretty easy. I mean 904 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 6: I feel like Karen's a great coach. You know, he 905 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 6: does a good job of teaching us and relaying information 906 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 6: and you know, football is football, so it's not too hard. 907 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: I had a chance to talk to your defensive line 908 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: coast Marcus Johnson, right, he's with ohiose State now yep, 909 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: and uh talk to him about your about the h 910 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: the job you did, and he talked about how he 911 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: taught you a lot of different hand techniques or like 912 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: the one hand stad and stuff like that. Is that 913 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: one of the things that you really think you took 914 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: a lot of strides in when you're in college is 915 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: improving your handwork and getting those hands in the right spot. 916 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. 917 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 6: Just being able to, you know, learn from a guy 918 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 6: who's done it and been at the you know, professional 919 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 6: level before. It's a tremendous help. And you know, just 920 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 6: taking all the techniques that I brought and seeing those 921 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 6: grow over time watching film and it definitely helped me 922 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 6: where I am. 923 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: What are some of the things that Coach Priscillo and 924 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: Coach Frentz are kind of really honing in on with 925 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: you right now to try to get you better at 926 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: as you head into. 927 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 3: Your looking year. 928 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 6: Just making sure you know, all the technicalities are always 929 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 6: you know, ironed out and everything, all the kinks are good, 930 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 6: you know, just making sure the technique's perfect, and this 931 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 6: time here you want technique to be perfect so when 932 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 6: the bullets start flying, things can adjust a little bit. 933 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: Now you have such good feet, You're you're you're such 934 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: a good athlete. How do you thank you use that 935 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: athleticism in your footspeed to your advantage when you're out 936 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 1: there at tackling. 937 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 6: Oh, I mean it's you know, one of the biggest 938 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 6: parts of my game, you know, being able to analyze 939 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 6: and beat defenders to where they want to be and 940 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 6: being able to you know, utilize my quickness to get there. 941 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 6: Sometimes I feel like, you know, it kills me too 942 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 6: much too, you know, trying to be too fast and 943 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, overrunning and where I need 944 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 6: to be sometimes, so being able to find the healthy 945 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 6: balance of it. 946 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: In the run game, were are you most comfortable you 947 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: like running zone? Do you like you know, I know 948 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: you're not a guard right now, but poll, duo stuff, 949 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: what do you like do it? 950 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 6: In terms of run game, I mean really putting people 951 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 6: on the ground, whatever it takes. Zone blocking is always fun, 952 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 6: just being able to get later on run. I think 953 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 6: there's a lot of things that you can do when 954 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 6: it comes to zone blocking, but run blocking is run blocking. 955 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 6: At the end of the day, you just stuff your 956 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 6: knows on somebody and dry. 957 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: David Deal was one of our old school offensive lineman 958 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: and he always said moving a man from point A 959 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: to point B against his will, and that's how we 960 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: described offensive line, which I thought was very appropriate. 961 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 6: I feel like that's a very viral urn when it 962 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 6: comes to offensive line play. 963 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I'd say so. 964 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: I don't spend enough time with the internet, which which 965 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: is which I think is a good thing. Have you 966 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: set any goals out for yourself this year in terms 967 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: of you know, I'm not talking about metrics, playing time, whatever, 968 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: just things that you really want to kind of take 969 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: this next, take the next step in and become better during. 970 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 3: Your rookie year. 971 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I feel like every day is a 972 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 6: new battle is in itself, trying to you know, just 973 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 6: continue each day no matter what. It really is, just 974 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,959 Speaker 6: trying to get better at a single thing each day. 975 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 6: But uh, I mean, technique and footwork is always at 976 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 6: the forefront of my mind. I feel like you went 977 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 6: with your feet. 978 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: So have you noticed any like a big jump in 979 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: the in the level of competition going because you were 980 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: in the Big ten that's like real deal football. But 981 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: just seeing you know, Brian Burns every day, Dual Carter 982 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: obviously he was a was at Penn State when you 983 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: were there. You know, guys like Cavon Tibadau. What is 984 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: that jumping competition been like for you? 985 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's it's great to see. 986 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 6: I mean I was excited for it, to be honest, 987 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 6: coming out of college. I was ready to go against 988 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 6: you know, better competition week in week out and you know, 989 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 6: get those reps. But I mean it's been it's been 990 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 6: great to see. You know, it hasn't been too hard 991 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 6: to adjust to, so it's been good. It's been good. 992 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: You're looking forward to seeing what it's like once the 993 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: pad comes on and it was like full real, like 994 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: like like real deal football. No, no, for sure, all right, 995 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: awesome Marcus, good stuff. Then I appreciate you, thank you, 996 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: and now we welcome in Giants offensive line and Aaron Stinty. Aaron, 997 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: what's going on? 998 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 11: Man? 999 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 8: Not much? 1000 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 4: Man, telling how you doing? 1001 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm doing great? Were you excited to be able to, 1002 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: you know, get back here with a lot of the 1003 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: same guys, same offensive line coach for a second straight year? 1004 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 13: Most definitely got got a great group of guys, great coach, 1005 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 13: you know, excited to get back in, get back to 1006 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 13: work with the guys. 1007 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: What can that do for a group when you have 1008 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: the same coach and for the most part, the same 1009 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: guys in the room for two straight years. 1010 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I think it's huge. 1011 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 8: Man. 1012 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 13: You know, when it comes to offensive line, a huge 1013 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 13: piece of it is, you know, that chemistry that bond, 1014 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 13: that brotherhood in that room. So you know, to have 1015 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 13: a lot of guys coming back to keep a lot 1016 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 13: of the same piece as you know, it really just 1017 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,919 Speaker 13: deepens that chemistry and allows everybody to you know, feel 1018 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 13: comfortable and know that that guy already has their back 1019 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 13: because you know they already got that bond. 1020 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: It's probably weird for me ask you this questions cifically, 1021 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 1: But I see you guys interacting. Are you the funniest 1022 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 1: guy in the offensive line room? 1023 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 13: You know who knows you're pretty funny? I appreciate that. 1024 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 13: I appreciate that. You know, if you want to give 1025 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 13: if they want to give me that, I'll take it. 1026 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 13: I appreciate it. 1027 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: What is the inter going back and forth in that room? 1028 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 12: Like? 1029 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: What is the intercommunication? 1030 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 4: Like? 1031 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: How do you guys kind of go back and forth 1032 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: and help each other in their room when you're watching 1033 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: film together and trying to get better. 1034 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 13: Oh, it's huge, man, you know it's it's definitely just 1035 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 13: a family environmental brotherhood environment. You know, everybody coaches up, everybody, 1036 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 13: everybody you know takes a note of whatever one guy's 1037 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 13: getting taught. And then you know, we have a lot 1038 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 13: of vets in the room now, a lot of young 1039 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 13: guys in so you know, you can trickle that information down. 1040 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 13: Nobody takes any hard feelings, and you know, we just 1041 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 13: we just run it as a good group of guys. Man, 1042 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 13: just it kick it away. 1043 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 4: We need to kick it. 1044 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 13: You know, nobody takes anything hard feelings and then you 1045 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,479 Speaker 13: just move forward. And keep getting better. 1046 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: Hey, you Evan and Kubis have really been rotating at 1047 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: that guard spot right in that with the ones, twos 1048 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: and kind of back and forth. Is that a good 1049 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: thing to get experience with a lot of different groups 1050 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: of linemen over the course of the spring before the 1051 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 1: pads on, just so you can just be with them. 1052 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, you know that definitely helps you because 1053 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 13: you know, you're you're able to have different guys playing 1054 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 13: with different guys, and you know that just helps the 1055 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 13: build that again, that that chemistry and that continuity on 1056 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 13: the line. You know, that's that's huge when it comes 1057 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 13: to there, and so you know, it just allows different 1058 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 13: guys to get reps with more and more people, and 1059 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 13: you know that that just helps deepen the bond on it. 1060 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: Finally, you talked about helping guys along. Evans, the guy 1061 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: that's making a transition from the outside to the inside. 1062 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: What has it been like trying to get him back 1063 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: into the motive playing guard of something he did as 1064 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: a freshman back in Alabama a long time ago. What 1065 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: has it been like trying to reintegrate him back into 1066 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: the interior part of the offensive line. 1067 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,720 Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, man, Evan Evan's a great guy, great, 1068 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 13: great hard worker. You know, he's put his head down 1069 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 13: into the books and you know he's really getting after it. 1070 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 13: So it's been great to watch him do that as well. 1071 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: A good stuff man. We appreciate the time. And now 1072 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: we're joined by giants Offensive Lineman, Jake Coubis, Jake Hawai, 1073 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: Ben Good with yourself, So heading into your number two, 1074 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: what kind of goals have you set forth for yourself 1075 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 1: in terms of where you want to improve and get better? 1076 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't I don't know if there's uh, you know, 1077 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 5: specific category, maybe more consistent in the past protection world, 1078 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 5: but overall, just keep improving every day. I mean, at 1079 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 5: the end of the day, that's my goal every single 1080 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 5: day I wake up is try to find something to 1081 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 5: get better at and try to keep improving at the 1082 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 5: end of the day. If you're doing that in life, 1083 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 5: you're doing pretty well. 1084 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 4: Getting better every day. 1085 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: Any specific technique, stuff that you had on your checklist 1086 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: that you wanted to get better. 1087 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 5: At, Yeah, probably just just being more consistent in my sense, 1088 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 5: you know, just being more detailed with it. 1089 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 4: You know at the FCS level. 1090 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 5: Coming from the FCS level, you can be uh, you 1091 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 5: can get away with some bad habits with the with 1092 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 5: the level competition you're going against at times, so it's 1093 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 5: kind of getting rid of those and you know, just 1094 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 5: being really really conscientious about it every day and just 1095 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 5: trying to hammer that hammer that out. 1096 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: In the spring, they've rotated a bunch of you guys 1097 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: in and out with the different groups. Sometimes you go 1098 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: with the first team, sometimes second team, moving around. What 1099 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: is that like for you? Trying to build chemistry with 1100 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: different guys and different groups and just trying to kind 1101 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: of get things going so you're ready to hit the 1102 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: ground running. 1103 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 5: In the c it's been great. I mean, I think 1104 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 5: we all have, you know, returning the majority of our guys, 1105 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 5: we all have pretty good chemistry with one another. And 1106 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 5: you know, I don't I don't think it hurts to 1107 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,919 Speaker 5: have that. You know, it's somebody's bound to go down. 1108 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 5: It's football. 1109 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 4: It's a violent game. 1110 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 5: So you're gonna have to figure that out as the 1111 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 5: season goes on, and the more continuity you have with 1112 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 5: different guys, the better off will be as an offensive 1113 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 5: line units the season goes on. 1114 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: How much has helped you as an individual being with 1115 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: the same offensive line coach for the second straight year, 1116 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: so you're reinforcing what he taught you last year instead 1117 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,720 Speaker 1: of learning things from scratch. 1118 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1119 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Carmen Carmen James have been unbelievable, you know, giving 1120 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 5: me an opportunity first of all, and then you know, 1121 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 5: being really willing and open to coaching me every day. 1122 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 5: You know, some coaches will let some stuff fly, you know, 1123 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 5: whether it's you know, seven eight year vet and they've 1124 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 5: been doing it like this for however long and you 1125 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 5: know it works for them, so they let it go. 1126 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 5: And they've been really good about keeping me disciplined and 1127 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 5: keeping me on top of things in terms of techniques 1128 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 5: and fundamentals and stuff like that. So they've been great. 1129 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 5: And then they're great exces and old minds when it 1130 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 5: comes to football, like they just they understand how everything 1131 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 5: fits together and they do a great job of communicating 1132 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 5: that to all of us. And you know, having them 1133 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 5: for a second year here is gonna be great. 1134 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: Jake, good stuff, man. I really appreciate thanks so much 1135 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: of the time. Appreciate you always good to talk to 1136 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: the big fellows the offensive line as they try to 1137 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: protect Russell Wilson the Giants quarterbacks and make room in 1138 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: the run game for the Giants running backs as well. 1139 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,240 Speaker 1: That's all the time me after the Giants. Little podcast 1140 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. 1141 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time.