Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, August twenty eight, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where
Speaker 1: we desperately needed the season to start. It's been your
Speaker 1: rand MG Marcus Grand joined by Michael F. Florio and
Speaker 1: Lakwan Jones and uh Lakwan. Twenty four hours later, you
Speaker 1: are still with us after eating a strawberry. How has
Speaker 1: your life changed now that you have added a new
Speaker 1: fruit to the repertoire.
Speaker 2: I'm a whole new man. It's really uh, it feels good.
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like, you know, the strawberries are
Speaker 2: in the fridge right now. I might get some later,
Speaker 2: you know, chop down on them.
Speaker 3: I was curious when the next time you're gonna, like,
Speaker 3: I want text updates every time you eat a strawberry.
Speaker 2: No, seriously, seriously, it was actually good. And you know,
Speaker 2: I think I gave my rating yesterday in the chat,
Speaker 2: but I gave it seven out of ten. You know,
Speaker 2: it made its way on the list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know you gave us your rankings
Speaker 1: post show and it slid into the top five of fruits.
Speaker 1: So that's it's a solid entry. As for the rest
Speaker 1: of you out there, the listeners, the viewers, those who
Speaker 1: interact with us. I don't know how to feel about
Speaker 1: the fact that Lakwan eating a strawberry is like the
Speaker 1: most interactive piece of content that we've had in a
Speaker 1: long time, you know. Like, I know that a lot
Speaker 1: of you got to watch the show, listen to the show,
Speaker 1: and we're grateful for all that. But the fact that
Speaker 1: we put out a video of Lakwan eating fruit and
Speaker 1: that gets as much or more engagement than any of
Speaker 1: our actual fantasy takes, Like, I don't I don't really
Speaker 1: know how to feel about that.
Speaker 2: It does feel weird.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. Anyway.
Speaker 1: By the way, thanks again to Mantiteo for hopping in.
Speaker 1: We've had him on twice now. It's been really, really fun.
Speaker 1: We are really going to make an effort to have
Speaker 1: him on periodically throughout the season as well.
Speaker 4: It's just been a whole lot of fun to kind
Speaker 4: of have him in there. Here.
Speaker 1: It is, this is we're coming up on the start
Speaker 1: of the season. By the time we get back to
Speaker 1: you next week, we will be on week one officially.
Speaker 1: So this is our opportunity to talk about our guys,
Speaker 1: the players that we have to make sure we leave
Speaker 1: with in every draft, or at least we are trying
Speaker 1: hard to leave every single draft we with. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna go running back, wide receiver that will do quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and tight ends. So we will go through all the
Speaker 1: players that we are heavily targeting in our drafts. But
Speaker 1: first let's get to some news and we will start
Speaker 1: with a peak behind the curtains. So on Monday show,
Speaker 1: we opened by talking about the guys that we're holding
Speaker 1: out and what we were gonna do with them. We
Speaker 1: talked about Brandon Ayuk, We talked about Jamar Chase. We
Speaker 1: also talked about ced Lamb. Now chances are you didn't
Speaker 1: hear that on that podcast because thanks to the wonderful
Speaker 1: producer Susie, she cut it out because we talked all
Speaker 1: about ced Lamb, and I kid you not. Five minutes
Speaker 1: after we finished recording the podcast, the news came through
Speaker 1: that CD Lamb and the Cowboys had agreed to terms
Speaker 1: on a four year, one hundred and thirty six million
Speaker 1: dollar extension. So CD gets his big payday. He is happy,
Speaker 1: he is back in the fold with the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: And so Michael lef Floya, I will ask you, does
Speaker 1: this mean he jumps back up all the way back
Speaker 1: up to the number two spot. Now, mind you, I
Speaker 1: know he'd fall into like four. Does this put him
Speaker 1: back at the number two spot for you?
Speaker 3: This is gonna sound like a maybe a little bit
Speaker 3: of a hot take note he goes to the number
Speaker 3: one spot. Oh like, let's go Christian McCaffrey. If you
Speaker 3: want to take him one, I get it. I'm not
Speaker 3: going to tell you not to. He was the best
Speaker 3: player in Fantasy last year.
Speaker 5: All of that.
Speaker 3: I like the builds so much better when I start
Speaker 3: with a wide receiver in round one, and if you
Speaker 3: don't take one at picks one or two, the ones
Speaker 3: that come back to you, the elite guys are pretty
Speaker 3: much washed gone at that point, so you're gonna be
Speaker 3: choosing between wide receiver twos. So to me, I would
Speaker 3: be taking him if you gave me the number one
Speaker 3: overall pick like we had the Fantasy Life later. I
Speaker 3: don't know a pick I get. If I get number one,
Speaker 3: spoiler alert, it will be CD Lamb.
Speaker 4: All right. I mean for you, Lakwana, are you feeling
Speaker 4: the same way? Is CD number one for you?
Speaker 2: Yes? Definitely? I can either go ceedee Lamb or Bjhon Robinson.
Speaker 2: And it sounds crazy not to put CMC in that conversation,
Speaker 2: but it is what it is. I mean, a lot
Speaker 2: of fantasy managers and all Cowboys Nation can sleep better
Speaker 2: at night. I mean, they still have the nightmares of
Speaker 2: not making the playoffs, but you know, not winning in
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I mean, but overall, I feel like it
Speaker 2: looks like, you know, Ceedee Lamb is a clear cut
Speaker 2: first top three picks. So him getting paid now, he's happy.
Speaker 2: Dak should be happy for him. So the dude's gonna
Speaker 2: ball out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, for sure, he's definitely a top three pick.
Speaker 1: Like I said, even through all of this drama, I
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever saw him slip further than four.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that anyone was super concerned about
Speaker 1: CD Lamb. It's just that, you know, maybe you didn't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable taking him at one or two. I think
Speaker 1: that part is over now for CD. And the fact
Speaker 1: of the matter is, look, guys, the running room got
Speaker 1: worse in the offseason in Dallas. You mentioned that on
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Live, which you can check out of course,
Speaker 1: some Monday through Friday, six pm Eastern, they bring back Zeke,
Speaker 1: They've got Rico Dwell. They also go out and sign
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook. You know, the twenty the twenty nineteen Cowboy
Speaker 1: Run game is gonna be fire, I know that much.
Speaker 1: The twenty twenty four Cowboy Run game not so much.
Speaker 1: So that works out well for Cedee Lamb. Also this
Speaker 1: week on Tuesday officially was cut down day across the league,
Speaker 1: and we talked to man Tito about sort of what
Speaker 1: that means and how that feels. I know, it's just
Speaker 1: not a fun day for players, for organization's front offices.
Speaker 1: It's just a really hard day for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: But there were a bunch of notable moves now do
Speaker 1: have some impact in fantasy. So I'm gonna read these
Speaker 1: off and I'm gonna ask you, guys, which of these
Speaker 1: sort of jumps out to you more than anything one.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs bring back Juju Smith Schuster, and eventually they
Speaker 1: go on and cut Kadarius Tony AJ Dillon because of
Speaker 1: a neck injury, was placed on season ending injured reserves.
Speaker 1: We will not see Quadzilla at all this year. The
Speaker 1: Broncos are moving on from Tim Patrick, both the player
Speaker 1: and team trying to find a trade partner so that
Speaker 1: he exits Denver. The Titans trade Melik Willis to the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers for a seventh round pick Odell Beckham Junior,
Speaker 1: with the Miami Dolphins placed on the pup list, so
Speaker 1: he's out for at least the first four weeks of
Speaker 1: the season, and the Cardinals released Desmond Ritter, who lost
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback job to Clayton tuns So, Lawan, I
Speaker 1: will start with you. Of those six stories I just
Speaker 1: went through, which one jumps out to you as having
Speaker 1: maybe the most immediate fantasy impact.
Speaker 2: Well, Tim Patrick. To me, it's interesting to hear the
Speaker 2: rumors that he could be headed to Detroit, and I
Speaker 2: think this is great for him to actually try to
Speaker 2: carve out a role as the wide receiver two, as
Speaker 2: the third option possibly in this offense. And I don't
Speaker 2: think this is going to be good news for all
Speaker 2: the Jameson Williams fans out there, because right at Florida,
Speaker 2: the Straton Daggers like it's looking real nasty for him
Speaker 2: right now. I don't think they're confident enough that he
Speaker 2: was able to develop more as a all around wide
Speaker 2: receiver this offseason, So therefore they're looking for some type
Speaker 2: of security, and we know what Tim Patrick can bring over.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people forget you know, I
Speaker 2: brung the stat up on the last episode that you know,
Speaker 2: back to back seasons twenty twenty to twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: he led that wide receiver room in touchdowns and in
Speaker 2: red zone target. So he is such a huge red
Speaker 2: zone target. If he ends up there with Detroit and
Speaker 2: Jared Golf, I think he can actually carve something out
Speaker 2: because they always been looking for a wide receiver too,
Speaker 2: I mean Khalif Rayman. They tried it out to try
Speaker 2: to get him involved, you know, try to get him
Speaker 2: to be the guy to help out, and then James
Speaker 2: and Williams obviously with him dealing with the suspension and injury.
Speaker 2: So it's like Tim Patrick actually has a path to
Speaker 2: be Fantasy relevant this year.
Speaker 1: I mean I like Tim Patrick, and I actually a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, in my Hype Trainer smokescreen column
Speaker 1: that you can find on NFL dot com, I actually
Speaker 1: wrote about Tim Patrick. I was like Hype Training, I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be great, and now they're moving on
Speaker 1: from him, so, you know, boo on me. But it
Speaker 1: also begs the question Floya who is the wide receiver
Speaker 1: two in Denver? I mean Courtland Sutton's got the wide
Speaker 1: receiver one job locked down. It doesn't seem like Marvin
Speaker 1: Mims is gonna get a whole lot of run. Maybe
Speaker 1: is at Troy Franklin, I don't know who their second
Speaker 1: option in the passing game is.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be Josh Reynolds to start the
Speaker 3: year because veteran seems to be pretty popular right now
Speaker 3: with Sean Payton.
Speaker 5: But this is a good thing for.
Speaker 3: Marvin Mims and Troy Franklin at least an opportunity because
Speaker 3: Tim Patrick in the preseason looks like the clear cut
Speaker 3: number two for the Denver Broncos. I was shocked when
Speaker 3: we saw that they were moving on from him. But look,
Speaker 3: I don't think like Franklin or Marvin Mims are wide
Speaker 3: receivers that you could feel confident like starting Week one
Speaker 3: or anything like that. But if you're in a deeper league,
Speaker 3: you throw them at the end of your bench, or
Speaker 3: if you're in a shallower league, you just keep an
Speaker 3: eye on them because if they get the opportunity. And
Speaker 3: bo Nicks, if he is anywhere close to as good
Speaker 3: as he's been in this preseason on the Broncos, a
Speaker 3: team that we expect to probably be trailing, have to
Speaker 3: throw a little bit more. They definitely could blossom into
Speaker 3: fantasy assets that we want.
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna defend my man, Jamison Williams.
Speaker 4: He quick, I know, gotta come back.
Speaker 3: I don't think the signing is about Jamison Williams. I
Speaker 3: think it's about They have four wide receivers on the
Speaker 3: roster as of right now per hour lads, and one
Speaker 3: is Khalif Raymond and one is Isaiah Williams.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it looks real nasty.
Speaker 3: I think I think Patrick comes in. He's the wide
Speaker 3: receiver three, He's like the out wide guy when they
Speaker 3: when they go to three wide receiver sets, when they
Speaker 3: go two, I would expect that James.
Speaker 5: Look, Dan Campbell has been doing nothing but.
Speaker 3: Speaking of jameson Willis on him and Dan Campbell is
Speaker 3: as straight shooter as it gets.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, you're a great locker room guy. Man,
Speaker 2: you have a great energy. Man. Just do this become
Speaker 2: a all around wide receiver other than a guy that
Speaker 2: could just stretch the field. And I feel like a
Speaker 2: lot of people are missing out that Jared goff. That's
Speaker 2: not his game to be throwing those passes down field
Speaker 2: like that every single game. Like he's one of those
Speaker 2: guys that if it doesn't work the first two times,
Speaker 2: he's gonna want to be more conservative in his play.
Speaker 2: I've seen this a lot when he played for the Rams,
Speaker 2: where I'm like questioning his QB hard, his QB i
Speaker 2: Q and all this stuff, like, dude, throw it down
Speaker 2: now year, You're right, I'm having PTSD. You know, a
Speaker 2: lot of things are coming back up, a lot of emotions.
Speaker 5: But we're good.
Speaker 2: Me and Jared Golf are on great turns.
Speaker 5: But all right over here, I don't think we do.
Speaker 1: I know we don't have any lions over here. We
Speaker 1: get a lion, like a Funko Pop or something like that, maybe.
Speaker 2: Mon Rock.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm down here, I'm on rock. You know
Speaker 4: who do we who we have to talk to? Who?
Speaker 1: What sort of requisitions do we have to fill out
Speaker 1: to get a funko pop around here? I don't know, uh,
Speaker 1: for any any of these stories that jump out to
Speaker 1: you though immediately that can I go off?
Speaker 3: Yes, he signed with the Kansas City Chiefs earlier today,
Speaker 3: and it's no secret I have been a huge Isaiah
Speaker 3: Checko supporter.
Speaker 5: I have him ranked as the RB four.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lower him a bit, uh, probably take him
Speaker 3: at least two RB six, which would put Saquon and
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor back ahead of him, which most people already
Speaker 3: were taking those guys ahead of Pachecko. After that, I
Speaker 3: still think there's a case to be made for Pachecko.
Speaker 3: But Samaj p Ryan was one of the very best
Speaker 3: pass catching running backs in football last year. So it
Speaker 3: is concerning because at the very least he could play
Speaker 3: the same role that Jack McKinnon did, and that holds
Speaker 3: back Isaiah Pachecko in fantasy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a big one too.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think we were sort of
Speaker 1: hoping that with Jack McKinnon gone and ce Is really
Speaker 1: being the only other competition back there, that we'd see
Speaker 1: more snaps, more opportunity for Pachecko. Now with pe Ryan there,
Speaker 1: he plays that McKinnon role, and I think we see
Speaker 1: Pachecko use sort of the way he was last year,
Speaker 1: which wasn't bad. It's just not the sort of usage
Speaker 1: you would want for a guy that you're drafting, probably
Speaker 1: in the second round at this point. So that's one
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay with Kansas City, and I do think
Speaker 1: bringing back Juje you sort of mean something.
Speaker 4: Not in a sense.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm not telling you you're gonna draft Juju, But
Speaker 1: for people who I think you have an interest in
Speaker 1: Rashi Rice, I think this cuts into that a little
Speaker 1: bit because they're gonna do a lot of the similar things.
Speaker 1: They're both gonna be sort of that underneath short yardage
Speaker 1: guy that you hope can get some yards after the catch.
Speaker 1: I think Xavier Worthy, I think Marquis Brown have their
Speaker 1: role set and they're gonna be very different. But I
Speaker 1: think when you're talking about having Kelsey sort of work
Speaker 1: the middle of the field, having Juju sort of in
Speaker 1: the short to intermediate part of the field, and having
Speaker 1: Rashie Rice there, that's a lot going on, not to
Speaker 1: mention some AJP Ryan who can catch the ball out
Speaker 1: of the backfield. Now you have these four guys that
Speaker 1: sort of all work kind of within the same distance
Speaker 1: away from the line of scrimmage. That's necessarily going to
Speaker 1: take away from each other. So I'm not drafting Juju.
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you to go draft Juju. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you that Juju might make you a little bit frustrated
Speaker 1: and salty because of the other guys that you have.
Speaker 3: I think it would hurt Worthy the most because I
Speaker 3: don't when Marku's Brown returns, he's going to be in
Speaker 3: two wide receiver set a three wide receiver set, so
Speaker 3: is Rashid Rice. So like, where are those snaps if
Speaker 3: Juju gets on the I think Juju is the backup
Speaker 3: option for Travis Kelsey personally nice because because I kept
Speaker 3: joking that the Chiefs used him like a tight end
Speaker 3: when he was the.
Speaker 1: Steelers sort of made him one. Yeah, at the end
Speaker 1: of his time in Pittsburgh as well.
Speaker 2: So yeah, convert, Wow, converting early while you're still in
Speaker 2: the league.
Speaker 1: Are you telling me I need to draft a tight
Speaker 1: end handcuff for Travis kelthan.
Speaker 2: Hill can do it, Juju can do it.
Speaker 5: Matthews is doing it right now.
Speaker 2: Got a touchdown like a week ago, which is crazy.
Speaker 3: A former Steelers receiver might not be right on much,
Speaker 3: but he might be right on you.
Speaker 4: That's the name I've not heard, But Flora.
Speaker 2: I got to pour one out for you, my boy,
Speaker 2: Like I'm literally pouring this out right now for you.
Speaker 2: Because Tony Brow.
Speaker 3: Please don't even I tweeted yesterday I said I want
Speaker 3: people to respect my privacy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, this is.
Speaker 2: On I just had to pour one out for that
Speaker 2: was literally me pouring water on my floor.
Speaker 1: By the way, this is a sensitive time for floor.
Speaker 4: So we will move on from that.
Speaker 1: What we will move on to the fact that it's
Speaker 1: time to drive your draft, presented by the all new
Speaker 1: hybrid Toyota Camery. One other piece of news that is
Speaker 1: going to have a major Fantasy impact. Nick Chubb is
Speaker 1: going to open the season on the PUP list. Jonathan
Speaker 1: Brooks is on the NFI list for the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1: That means both of these players have to set out
Speaker 1: the first four games of the season. So I mean, lakwan,
Speaker 1: these are guys that people were drafting. You know, I
Speaker 1: was big on Jonathan Brooks. I know you were very
Speaker 1: optimistic and very aggressive on Nick Chubb. Knowing that they
Speaker 1: got to miss the first four weeks of the season.
Speaker 1: Does this change how you're drafting either of those guys.
Speaker 2: The news is kind of expected, but I will say
Speaker 2: when I was aggressive getting Nick Chubb, it was kind
Speaker 2: of still you know, under the radar. But now we're
Speaker 2: hearing people getting Nick Chubb pulled up in those later
Speaker 2: rounds where it feels a little uncomfortable because even my friend,
Speaker 2: you know, we have a draft coming up on Saturday,
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, man, I can't wait to snag Nick
Speaker 2: Chubb in the fifth round. And I'm like, oh dude,
Speaker 2: I keep forgetting We're in our home league, like we
Speaker 2: need the chills. I don't think I'm gonna getting Nick
Speaker 2: Chubb this weekend. But I think overall, when you're looking
Speaker 2: at if it's Jonathan Brooks or Nick Chubb, if you're
Speaker 2: interested in either one of these guys, I feel like
Speaker 2: Brooks would be the better one because I feel like
Speaker 2: he's going to be a league winner this year. Like
Speaker 2: I really feel like he's gonna come out of those
Speaker 2: four weeks. He's gonna, you know, start to get a
Speaker 2: groove and then they have a late by. The Panthers
Speaker 2: have a late by in week eleven, and then he
Speaker 2: comes out of that by blazing as the starter, and
Speaker 2: he's gonna help a lot of fantasy managers into the
Speaker 2: Fantasy playoffs. So I would be looking more so aggressively
Speaker 2: looking to get Jonathan Brooks rather than Nick Chubb in
Speaker 2: this type of climate right now.
Speaker 1: I thought, I mean, I've seen Round eight and I
Speaker 1: thought that was aggressive for Nick Chubb round five.
Speaker 2: Dude, home leagues and the casuals are out.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we just man, Ti Tailor talked about
Speaker 1: somebody drafting the Niners defense in round seven.
Speaker 2: So I guess it's the I love my home league
Speaker 2: because it's so unpredictable, but sometimes it's so frustrating where
Speaker 2: I'm and get the perfect build and it's like, why
Speaker 2: are you doing this?
Speaker 1: I always you know, because I always say when you
Speaker 1: talk about homely, like, you know, the world's greatest swordsman
Speaker 1: has nothing to fear from the world's second greatest swordsman,
Speaker 1: because because there's a protocol that you follow and you
Speaker 1: sort of know what moves are coming, the person that
Speaker 1: you should be scared of is the person just wildly
Speaker 1: swinging swords around.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: It's the way that button mashers always win in video
Speaker 1: games versus the person who knows the move.
Speaker 3: Prior to the caribbean in the first one, like Jack
Speaker 3: Sparrow beats Will in the sword fight because he plays
Speaker 3: dirty right, no one else could beat him. Right.
Speaker 1: So like when you're drafting folks who don't necessarily have
Speaker 1: the same set of rules in their head.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 1: It's the wild West out there for sure, Florida, I mean,
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, Jonathan Brooks. Any any change in how you're
Speaker 1: approaching those guys.
Speaker 3: Man, the only change is with Jonathan Brooks now being
Speaker 3: like on fantasy sites it has an O next to
Speaker 3: his name.
Speaker 5: Officially, I feel like he's sliding even for it.
Speaker 3: Because the difference between the two in perception into people
Speaker 3: who don't live this is. Nick Chubb is a name
Speaker 3: that I know and is one of the best running
Speaker 3: backs in fantasy for years. I've never heard of Jonathan
Speaker 3: Brooks and he doesn't even spell his first name correctly,
Speaker 3: so like that. But to me, my perception is the
Speaker 3: exact opposite.
Speaker 5: One is a twenty three literally just turned twenty.
Speaker 3: One, coming off of a clean acl with nothing else.
Speaker 3: Once he is back on the field, I think it'll
Speaker 3: take a game or two for him to get going
Speaker 3: and then they're just gonna set him free.
Speaker 5: He's fine. The energy's gonna behind him.
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb is gonna be twenty nine come the end
Speaker 3: of the year, with a ton of work on that
Speaker 3: on his body, wearing taramine on his body to every
Speaker 3: ligament in his knee, and he already previously tore it.
Speaker 3: Like Nick Chubb is a player I'm not gonna have
Speaker 3: on any of my teams, and Jonathan Brooks I'm probably
Speaker 3: gonna have on most.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've said already like I'm willing to
Speaker 1: be wrong on Nick Chubb.
Speaker 4: I just don't want to be the one to sort.
Speaker 5: Of rooting for it.
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for him like I love watching Nickchubb play.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be the one to draft him at
Speaker 1: this point. I am sort of hoping that Jonathan Brooks
Speaker 1: falls a little bit. I mean, I know this is
Speaker 1: sort of always in the cards, but I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping the ADP falls a little bit, and especially
Speaker 1: especially if I'm in a league that has an IR spot.
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely taking Jonathan Brooks. I'm gonna stash him on
Speaker 1: the IR spot and I can go get somebody else
Speaker 1: off the waiver wire in the short term until he's
Speaker 1: ready to go.
Speaker 2: I could tell you you'll get that off. You'll do it.
Speaker 2: Because I have a fan in my league and he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: Miles Sanders is still there, man, who's this Jonathan Brooks Brooks.
Speaker 2: I'm like, y know, I love these conversations.
Speaker 1: Man, are there where that Miles Sanders was not even
Speaker 1: the RB one last year.
Speaker 2: Therefore it's a familiar name and he still thinks he's
Speaker 2: good and he still plays for the Egospot.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I love Miles Sanders. Miles Sanders was
Speaker 1: never I thought he could be in Philly. Like just
Speaker 1: all right, as on.
Speaker 5: Black right, I'm not gonna who he is.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say his name, but he knows
Speaker 2: who he is.
Speaker 4: You know who you are, and you know what you did.
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 4: There you go.
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Speaker 1: gonna start getting.
Speaker 4: Into our guys. We'll start with a running back and
Speaker 4: wide receiver position.
Speaker 1: That's after the break on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
Speaker 4: All right time year where we are flag planting.
Speaker 1: We are talking about the guys that we believe in
Speaker 1: more than just about any other at least the guys
Speaker 1: that we are really trying to target in as mini
Speaker 1: drafts as we can So let's start with the running
Speaker 1: back position. It's sort of the wild West out there.
Speaker 1: We know there are those three or four really elite
Speaker 1: guys that are going at the top of drafts, and
Speaker 1: then there's sort of a step down as you go
Speaker 1: along the way.
Speaker 4: But we'll start at running back. So la quand who
Speaker 4: is your guy at the running back position?
Speaker 2: Now, I feel like when I say this name, Floria
Speaker 2: is gonna light up. But it's Brian Robinson junior man. Like,
Speaker 2: I feel like this season me and Floria are gonna
Speaker 2: be texting each other every Sunday, like every time Brian
Speaker 2: Robinson scores, and then every time Eckler scores or touches
Speaker 2: the ball period, He's gonna hit me up and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna hit him up. So I'm gonna love this back
Speaker 2: and forth this season.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2: No, it is, because I feel like he's my guy
Speaker 2: just based on the things that we've seen from He's
Speaker 2: a hard nosed runner. The dude can catch the ball
Speaker 2: out of backfield. He's so explosive, and I feel like
Speaker 2: he's more of a Cliff Kingsbury guy if we look
Speaker 2: back in the previous systems, Like I feel like when
Speaker 2: Kenyan Drake came over, he had a ton of fun
Speaker 2: with him where he was going off averaging like more
Speaker 2: than fifteen Fantasy points per game, and then he lands
Speaker 2: James Connor. This is more so of his type of build,
Speaker 2: of these hard nosed runners, these guys that happen to
Speaker 2: be able to catch the ball. And I think Austin
Speaker 2: Eckler just fits in Cliff Kingsbury's dream of like a
Speaker 2: Chase Edmunds, but an upgrade, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like he's always tried to have that pass catching back
Speaker 2: be more involved in the offense than he really need
Speaker 2: to be. When the hard nose runner, the RB one
Speaker 2: was able to really flourish and thrive in the offense.
Speaker 1: I wouldmit, because I am very much now team Eckler, right,
Speaker 1: But I went back and forth because it felt like
Speaker 1: early in draft season it was Robinson way ahead of Eckler,
Speaker 1: and then the gap closed, and I think for a minute,
Speaker 1: Eckler jump ahead of Robinson.
Speaker 4: Now I'm looking at ADP and they are like literally
Speaker 4: the same. They are identical in ADP.
Speaker 2: Me in Florio, I mean it is I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I just think I think as a community, we've
Speaker 1: come to a consensus that like we don't want It's
Speaker 1: like we don't really know. We're all sort of guessing
Speaker 1: at this point, and like, realistically, it could be that
Speaker 1: they just split the opportunities like right down the middle. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think it's gonna be funny if
Speaker 1: we're all texting each other about it in the end
Speaker 1: and of like you know, pretty much the same right,
Speaker 1: Like you know, like they both end up at like
Speaker 1: you know, Ones run running Back twenty nine, Ones running
Speaker 1: Back thirty. It's like, okay, sure, Harris, that's basically right,
Speaker 1: easily could.
Speaker 3: I want to Like as much as I love Austin Eckler,
Speaker 3: I'm not anti Brian Robinson Junior. Like I think it's
Speaker 3: a good running back and everything, I'm just Austin Eckler
Speaker 3: has been my guy for like six years now, and
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not letting going oil.
Speaker 1: Plus, you know, he's one of us, one of us,
Speaker 1: one of us for sure, Florio, who is your guy?
Speaker 1: And the second question is has that changed in the
Speaker 1: last say, three to four hours?
Speaker 5: Yeah, So literally.
Speaker 3: We were on set for Fantasy Live and the news
Speaker 3: came out that the Chiefs signed a running back, and
Speaker 3: I said an expletive because I was like, not only
Speaker 3: have I drafted Isaiah Pacheck, he is my most drafted
Speaker 3: running back. I have basically done a media tour the
Speaker 3: last week, going around telling everyone he is going to
Speaker 3: be a top four fantasy running back. I'm going to
Speaker 3: lower him in my rankings to six. I'm still going
Speaker 3: to be drafting him because I think other people who
Speaker 3: were already lower on him than I was are going
Speaker 3: to also lower Isaiah Pacheco, which means he'll probably be going.
Speaker 3: I'll still be willing to take him before his ADP
Speaker 3: or before other people are. But I love him as
Speaker 3: a runner. We know what he can do as a runner.
Speaker 3: He dominates the goal on work. Last year he had
Speaker 3: the highest percentage of a team's rushing touchdowns. Samaji p
Speaker 3: Ryan is a big threat because of how good he
Speaker 3: is as a pass catcher. But let's not forget that
Speaker 3: the season starts in the Chiefs have a game in
Speaker 3: eight days, so he's for Like I know, for a
Speaker 3: lot of running backs, it's like you don't need to
Speaker 3: know the playbook for pass blocking and stuff you do.
Speaker 3: So I think Pacheco still could get a crack out
Speaker 3: of the gate to show that he could be a
Speaker 3: three down guy. And if that is the case, he
Speaker 3: and he runs with it. Everything I have been saying
Speaker 3: still remains true, Like he could finish top top four
Speaker 3: or higher at the position. Because I think the Chiefs
Speaker 3: are going to be top two, top three offense this year.
Speaker 3: Like I think they get back to being that with
Speaker 3: those field stretchers, and those field stretchers are gonna help
Speaker 3: open up running lanes. He's never been on the Kansas
Speaker 3: City Chiefs where they had the downfield part of their game.
Speaker 3: He's only been on this new dink and dunk version
Speaker 3: of the Chiefs. So you add that into it, and
Speaker 3: I think it just it raises his ceiling even higher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think I think with pe Ryan
Speaker 1: there I said, I think the usage ends up being
Speaker 1: what it was last year. That's not how he jumped
Speaker 1: up to the second round. I think we all expected
Speaker 1: the usage was gonna go up because Clyde Very Deilaire
Speaker 1: was really the only competition there. But now some IJP
Speaker 1: Ryan's going to be sort of Jeric McKinnon ish at
Speaker 1: least in terms of how they use him in the
Speaker 1: context of the offense. And so I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: go back to seeing kind of a you know, about
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty five percent snapshare for Isaiah Pacheco, most
Speaker 1: of the rushing work, not a lot of the receiving work.
Speaker 1: But you talk about pass protection, you know, when you've
Speaker 1: got a billion dollar quarterback back there, the Chiefs want
Speaker 1: to make sure they have somebody who can protect him
Speaker 1: and make sure you or get lit up at all.
Speaker 1: My guys, Raheem Mostered, I've been on Raheem Moster from
Speaker 1: the beginning. I have not wavered on my desire to
Speaker 1: draft Raheem Mostered, mostly.
Speaker 4: Just because of ADP and what he is.
Speaker 1: And I I get why he's fallen down draft boards
Speaker 1: because everybody he's like, he's not gonna score twenty one
Speaker 1: touchdowns again. Okay, sure, the Dolphins are still gonna score
Speaker 1: a lot of points and most are still gonna get
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunity. The fact that they signed him
Speaker 1: to an extension pretty much right after the season shows
Speaker 1: that they're still committed to having him be involved in
Speaker 1: the offense. He's still a guy that has explosive speed,
Speaker 1: and I know people talk about the age, but I
Speaker 1: don't know that it comes into play in this context,
Speaker 1: because this is the guy that early in his career
Speaker 1: was not getting a lot of opportunities, was not getting
Speaker 1: a lot of touches because he was always somewhere where
Speaker 1: they had another running back or two ahead of him.
Speaker 1: So it really wasn't until maybe the end of his
Speaker 1: time in San Francisco, and then obviously when he comes
Speaker 1: to Miami, he takes over a huge workload there. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have the same level of work that a lot
Speaker 1: of other guys his age do, and so I think
Speaker 1: it's hard to say, well, he's thirty one years old,
Speaker 1: because I don't think it really necessarily applies in the
Speaker 1: same way to him. At the same time, Devon ah Chan,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, he's obviously a regression candidate. We
Speaker 1: talked on Fantasy Live today about the fact that he
Speaker 1: averaged almost three yards. It's three yards over expectation per carry.
Speaker 1: That is an absurd number. It's an absolutely absurd number.
Speaker 1: There's no reason to think he can continue that. I
Speaker 1: don't think you can continue eight yards per carry. I
Speaker 1: think these guys are going to have very similar production
Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, and I can get
Speaker 1: moster prettywhere from five to six maybe even more rounds
Speaker 1: later than I can get a chan, but I'm I'm still.
Speaker 3: Here both absolutely just referenced the yards over expectation and
Speaker 3: the yards per carry were the best in the like
Speaker 3: for the next stats ever and the best ever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a natural regression.
Speaker 4: You can't continue to be the best ever, like statistically, I.
Speaker 1: Mean like yeah, I mean like there's a few guys
Speaker 1: I guess you can, but like it's just.
Speaker 2: It's hard, like hard, how can we put at Moster's
Speaker 2: twenty one touchdowns not happening, but ignore the record breaking
Speaker 2: not all sports history with Devon ah Chan and not
Speaker 2: think progression like it's a little wonky, like I'm I'm
Speaker 2: really so e turned, Like I have Devon eh chan
Speaker 2: name muted on Twitter right now. I don't want to
Speaker 2: see it anymore. Like I just wanted the season two
Speaker 2: happen so we can honestly get the answers we need
Speaker 2: from this backfield. And it's obviously going to be raheem
Speaker 2: mostered as the RB one being that we already heard
Speaker 2: from the horse's mouth and from McDaniel that the backfield
Speaker 2: will follow him. So it's like everything that you were saying,
Speaker 2: markcus I was just smiling, grinning the whole time, like
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: You know what's gonna happen, right, his first carrier of
Speaker 1: the year, Devon e Chan is gonna rip one off
Speaker 1: for forty yards and all the eight chance truth.
Speaker 2: I told you, I'm gonna log off of all social.
Speaker 4: It's go.
Speaker 3: Or he'll like get hit and get knocked out of
Speaker 3: the game and be done for the year and they'll
Speaker 3: still victory.
Speaker 5: Lap. Oh You're like, oh, he was gonna be amazing.
Speaker 4: It was gonna be amazing. You never know, you will
Speaker 4: never know, you never know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so those are our running backs that
Speaker 1: we're all really planting a flag for. Let's go to
Speaker 1: wide receiver, uh quhen. I was a little bit surprised
Speaker 1: to see the wide receiver that that you are ready
Speaker 1: to die on a hill for. Not that I don't
Speaker 1: like him, I just I'm just surprised, that's all.
Speaker 5: Listen.
Speaker 2: I'm going to plant my flag like I've been back
Speaker 2: and forth in my rankings, like I can't watch hard
Speaker 2: knocks and try to get some you know, some juice
Speaker 2: from there to feel like I'm putting a flag on
Speaker 2: him because I can literally see that he is still
Speaker 2: the best pass catcher on this Bears team and it's
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen. Man, we have to stop disrespecting old man
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen because I feel like he's in that tier
Speaker 2: of the Mike Evans where their ADP's constantly year after
Speaker 2: year get disrespected and these guys end up in the
Speaker 2: top fifteen, the top ten, the top five. And Keenan
Speaker 2: Allen is a pass catcher. He's one of the best
Speaker 2: pass catchers that's on the Bears right now. You can't
Speaker 2: tell me anything different. That makes him such a reliable target.
Speaker 2: And he's going to be playing that slot position. Manti
Speaker 2: talked about on Good Morning Football how much how Keenan
Speaker 2: Allen is such a huge threat that he plays that
Speaker 2: slot position because he's a constant mismatch. He's going to
Speaker 2: be a headache for a lot of these defenses and
Speaker 2: he's going to remind a lot of people why he
Speaker 2: is going to be that wide receiver one for the Bears.
Speaker 1: First off, Twitter told me he's fat. Patrick Mahomes is fat. Well,
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes has for sure Dad Bod. Twitter told me
Speaker 1: that Keenan Allen is fat, although someone else told me
Speaker 1: that maybe because now that he's moved from California to Chicago,
Speaker 1: that he's got to put on a winter coat. And
Speaker 1: that's sort of what that's what it is. I mean,
Speaker 1: look in Jersey. Keenan Allen's California through and through right.
Speaker 1: He grew up in southern California. He went to school
Speaker 1: at cal he was drafted by the San Diego Chargers,
Speaker 1: he moved to the LA Chargers. Now he's got to
Speaker 1: go and experience a Chicago winter on the shores of
Speaker 1: Lake Michigan.
Speaker 4: You know, you got to bulk up a little bit.
Speaker 4: That's all. I know. That's it. But I was, I was.
Speaker 1: I will say I was a little bit surprised because
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are sort of like,
Speaker 1: you know, how does he fit in? Who's going to
Speaker 1: be the number two after DJ Moore. I have started
Speaker 1: to go over more to the Romo Dunes a team.
Speaker 1: But I do have I have love in my heart
Speaker 1: for Keenan Allen. You know, I just I didn't. I
Speaker 1: did not expect you to be planting the flag for him.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm gonna do it, man, all.
Speaker 4: Right, all right, uh Florio, I love yours.
Speaker 1: He would have been my one A after the guy
Speaker 1: that I took, but your guys is certainly right up
Speaker 1: there on my list as well.
Speaker 3: Just like with Isaiah Pacheco, I've kind of been going
Speaker 3: around to any show that will let me talk about
Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson and talking about Deontay Johnson for months now.
Speaker 5: But I'll say what.
Speaker 3: I keep saying, elite separator, one of the very best
Speaker 3: at the NFL last year, had the third highest rate
Speaker 3: of uncatchable targets.
Speaker 5: It wasn't his fault.
Speaker 3: Look at the quarterbacks he was playing with, and even
Speaker 3: more than that, Matt Canada, as the OC was he
Speaker 3: was not doing a good job play calling wise, in
Speaker 3: my opinion. In Pittsburgh now he has Dave Canalis, who
Speaker 3: not only is a quarterback whisper and helped revamp the
Speaker 3: Seahawks two years ago and the Bucks last year, but
Speaker 3: he also gets the most out of his wide receivers
Speaker 3: for fantasy purposes. And he himself said this offseason, the
Speaker 3: whole point is like two steps and then where's Deontay Johnson.
Speaker 3: Like that's what he wants going in Bryce Young's head,
Speaker 3: And to take it one step further. Bryce Young was
Speaker 3: eighth in completion percentage last year when his wide receivers
Speaker 3: had enough separation to be deemed open. Deontay Johnson does
Speaker 3: that routinely, so I expect this connection to be a
Speaker 3: lot better. You get him as a wide receiver for
Speaker 3: and I think he's going to be a top twenty
Speaker 3: wide receiver this year.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm all in on Deontay Johnson. I keep saying that.
Speaker 1: I like what the Panthers did in terms of trying
Speaker 1: to build around Bryce Young. I mean Lakwan Last year,
Speaker 1: Adam Feeling came out of nowhere for the first six
Speaker 1: to eight weeks of the season. It was legitimately a
Speaker 1: top ten wide receiver. So I mean, I gotta we
Speaker 1: gotta think, right, if Adam Feelin could do it at
Speaker 1: you know, I would say the advanced age because I'm
Speaker 1: older than him, so but you know he was he
Speaker 1: was football old.
Speaker 4: How about we say that right.
Speaker 1: Being football old, he's not too old for the earth,
Speaker 1: you know from knocked up? Yeah, like not even too
Speaker 1: old for the Earth, just you know, too old to
Speaker 1: be in the club. Like, if that's what he was
Speaker 1: able to do, why why shouldn't Deontay Johnson be able
Speaker 1: to do that?
Speaker 2: And maybe more absolutely and even in the preseason, the
Speaker 2: limited time that we saw Bryce Young play, he was
Speaker 2: looking really really good, Like he looks smooth in the pocket,
Speaker 2: looked more alert in his reads. And then honestly, that
Speaker 2: one throw which was very Caleb Lake side by side
Speaker 2: that he threw to Deontay Johnson, he was able to
Speaker 2: find him. And that's the thing that's so important about
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson, his ability to separate. So you need to
Speaker 2: have a guy like that, at least one on the
Speaker 2: offense that could be that explosive. So I'm with Florio
Speaker 2: screaming from the mids round, screaming up to the people
Speaker 2: up there like draft Deontay Johnson, like this is must
Speaker 2: have wide receiver in those later mid rounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm all about it. I've been all
Speaker 1: about it as many places as I can be. Again,
Speaker 1: he remains your favorite fantasy analyst, favorite receiver. He's that
Speaker 1: guy that you know that more casual players look at
Speaker 1: and you're like, I don't get it.
Speaker 4: You gonna score touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I made my first gift off of based off of
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson. Follow the volume and that's it.
Speaker 4: There is.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be plenty of volume. There speaking of volume,
Speaker 1: Drake London, Ladies and gentlemen. Look, we are all in
Speaker 1: on Falcons skill position guys, right, Bjeon Robinson's going in
Speaker 1: the top four or five, and a lot of drafts.
Speaker 1: You know, this is the Kyle Pitts show of record.
Speaker 1: I can't even say that because I think a lot
Speaker 1: of fantasy analysts are still in or back in on
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts this year because of the situation. But Drake London,
Speaker 1: Drake London has been the primary read, the first read
Speaker 1: on about thirty percent of the routes he's run since
Speaker 1: he's been with the Falcons, and that you know, shout
Speaker 1: out to the guys at Fantasy Points for a great
Speaker 1: data suite of tools for putting up that one. Look,
Speaker 1: this is a guy who's been a really good wide
Speaker 1: receiver despite really bad quarterback play for his first couple
Speaker 1: of years. If we're really excited about Kyle Pitts because
Speaker 1: of the upgrading quarterback play, because of the change in
Speaker 1: offensive coaching, then why wouldn't be we be in on
Speaker 1: Drake London and who really has been the primary target
Speaker 1: for all the weirdness that Arthur Smith did. They never
Speaker 1: took Drake London off the field. They just never had
Speaker 1: a quarterback who could get in the football consistently, right,
Speaker 1: So so we have solved that problem now. You know, like,
Speaker 1: am I crazy with quant if I say, Drake London
Speaker 1: is a top ten.
Speaker 4: Receiver this year?
Speaker 2: No, because he's literally my wide receiver seven and my
Speaker 2: rankings right now. I'm that aggressive with you with Drake
Speaker 2: London because we know the talent is there. He just
Speaker 2: wasn't able to hit his full fantasy ceiling just based
Speaker 2: on the lack of quarterback play. And I think, you know,
Speaker 2: Drake London is one of those guys that is really
Speaker 2: going to shock some folks. I mean you got to
Speaker 2: look at you know, the times where he did have
Speaker 2: those highlights, you know, reels with Taylor Heinekey or Desmond
Speaker 2: ridd He was bailing most of those catches out of
Speaker 2: like how did he catch that? There's no way that
Speaker 2: he was able to like bring that down And that's
Speaker 2: still embodied in his play. So I'm really excited for
Speaker 2: him to be playing with Panix or with Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love like through Pinnix in there too.
Speaker 1: Like, got to look, he played well in the preseason
Speaker 1: but I think you know, short of an injury to
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, I don't. I don't expect we're gonna see
Speaker 1: my Pinnicks at least this year for sure. All Right though, Yo,
Speaker 1: there's our running backs and our wide receivers. We still
Speaker 1: got quarterbacks and tight ends. We will do those. After
Speaker 1: the break. On the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, we are
Speaker 1: talking about our guys, the players we are targeting in
Speaker 1: each and every draft and trying to get as many
Speaker 1: shares of them as possible, and it's time to.
Speaker 4: See who will deliver.
Speaker 1: Presented by Uber Eats, let's talk about the quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: we love. Lakwan, your guys, a name that I've talked about,
Speaker 1: I think we've all talked about on this show. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go out on the limits that you're not talking
Speaker 1: about this guy as a QB one, but more as
Speaker 1: a secondary option.
Speaker 2: Correct note, we are on the QB one train.
Speaker 5: Baby.
Speaker 2: I'm going to plant my flag that Will Levis will
Speaker 2: be a top ten quarterback in twenty twenty four. And
Speaker 2: this is so based off of the limited play that
Speaker 2: we'd seen. But Calvin Ridley looks ridiculously dangerous after to
Speaker 2: catch I know we always known that Calvin Ridley could
Speaker 2: be a highlight reel, but oh my god, just in
Speaker 2: that preseason game, seeing how dangerous he is on a
Speaker 2: simple slant. Those are taken to the house abilities where
Speaker 2: Will Levis benefits those points as well. Now we're looking
Speaker 2: at this offense where they had pieces last year that
Speaker 2: were missing. The supporting cast was terrible. Now you're getting
Speaker 2: a Calvin Ridley with a Tyler Boyd to help will
Speaker 2: Levis on third down to convert. I've thrown that stat
Speaker 2: out plenty of times about Tyler Boyd being one of
Speaker 2: the best third down wide receivers for the Bengals since
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. So I'm looking at this offense as a whole.
Speaker 2: And when DeAndre Hopkins comes back from his injury and
Speaker 2: he's up to speed with this offense while is gelling,
Speaker 2: will Levis has no options to lose, even with Tony
Speaker 2: Pollard and Taj Spears there to bail him out in
Speaker 2: those checkdowns, because we know it's going to be difficult
Speaker 2: at times, even though that O line looked okay in preseason,
Speaker 2: but maybe times where will Levis have to get out
Speaker 2: of that pocket and run. And you love when he's
Speaker 2: on the run. He's one of the angriest runners. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's like a Josh Allen, but just a little bit
Speaker 2: more reckless. Like those two are the quarterbacks that scared.
Speaker 1: That's a wild that's a wild statement. By the way,
Speaker 1: He's Josh Allen, but a little more reckless.
Speaker 2: It is like some like, dude, you gotta be cautious
Speaker 2: of your throwing shoulder, Like why are you running full
Speaker 2: speed into a corner? Like I understand you feel bigger
Speaker 2: than this perte. You can still get hurt, but it's
Speaker 2: like you love that he brings that attitude out of
Speaker 2: the pocket when things collapse too. So Will Levis Top
Speaker 2: ten Fantasy Quarterback twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: I was gonna save the hot takes edition of this
Speaker 1: show for next week, but apparently we're we're doing it
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 4: Let's I did not expect that to happen.
Speaker 1: Uh, floyda, your I feel like your guy at quarterback
Speaker 1: has not changed in months, like you were here kind
Speaker 1: of Look, it's not a criticism. You were here a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago. You are here right now in
Speaker 1: late August as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, since the draft process, I've been like jayd and
Speaker 3: Daniels is gonna be my guy this year. I just
Speaker 3: everything that he does is good for fantasy. He can
Speaker 3: throw the deep ball and his legs like that is
Speaker 3: the key is what he can do with as a
Speaker 3: runner over twenty one rushing yards and oh no, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: with two thousand rushing yards and twenty one rushing touchdowns
Speaker 3: his last two seasons in college.
Speaker 5: His OC Cliff Kingsbury, we know him well.
Speaker 3: He led to Kyler Murray not only being a QB
Speaker 3: one every year that those two were together, but even
Speaker 3: as a rookie he finished as a QB one and
Speaker 3: Jade and Daniels, he he's kinda I don't want to
Speaker 3: compare him to Lamar, although that was I said, like
Speaker 3: he's like a He's Lamar Jackson in Tyrod Taylor's frame
Speaker 3: is what I kind of kept saying throughout the draft process.
Speaker 5: But he's gonna be a production wise like Lamar.
Speaker 3: I think, like you're gonna get a ton of rushing yards,
Speaker 3: like eight hundred two thousand, I think is what we
Speaker 3: could get if he if he as long as he
Speaker 3: plays seventeen games this year, but you're not gonna get
Speaker 3: the double digit rushing touchdowns, but he could give you
Speaker 3: five six rushing touchdowns. Then I like some of his
Speaker 3: playmakers around him.
Speaker 5: Like I love Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 3: After that, it gets a little thin, but the rushing
Speaker 3: is what we want, and he's going to be a
Speaker 3: top ten fantasy quarterback.
Speaker 4: I mean, I like Jayden Daniels a lot.
Speaker 1: I have been on record as saying I have since
Speaker 1: moved Caleb Williams ahead of him, But that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that I'm out on Jayden Daniels for all the reasons
Speaker 1: that you mentioned.
Speaker 4: Right, we love the rushing upside. I keep saying he's a.
Speaker 1: More polished passer now than we saw from Anthony Richardson
Speaker 1: and Justin Fields and a lot of these other guys
Speaker 1: that we love because of their rushing upside. So I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot there. I'm sort of with you
Speaker 1: that we know Terry mclaurin's gonna get targets. After that,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit dicey. I mean, Lakwani, like you know,
Speaker 1: I know you have been very much on the Luke
Speaker 1: McCaffrey train. I have sort of cautiously got on board
Speaker 1: that train as well. But I also think LQ that
Speaker 1: sort of speaks to the depth of pass catching options
Speaker 1: there in Washington that we're talking about a guy like
Speaker 1: Luke McCaffrey as somebody who could potentially be an impact
Speaker 1: player this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, he's gonna be running that slide. Lot of
Speaker 2: people have Diammy Brown on their radar as well, and
Speaker 2: like that's going to be a competition. We just have
Speaker 2: to sit with, you know, the early early games of
Speaker 2: the season to kind of see how it kind of
Speaker 2: comes together. Because those two players, man, I feel like
Speaker 2: they're going to so late in drafts or they're on
Speaker 2: your watch list, Like you won't really be paying a
Speaker 2: hefty price for either of those guys on this offense.
Speaker 2: You just have to be buying into Jaded Daniels and
Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury that this offense is going to be able
Speaker 2: to create some opportunities to put some points on the board.
Speaker 2: And it really feel as though Luke McCaffrey, Deammy Brown,
Speaker 2: these guys that it's great that they had the depth
Speaker 2: that they can go into the season this confident with.
Speaker 2: So obviously they saw something that in practice or in
Speaker 2: the preseason that we haven't really had our full lenses on.
Speaker 2: But I think the Commander's offense is going to surprise
Speaker 2: folks too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very curious how this works.
Speaker 1: One thing I did see that was very encouraging was
Speaker 1: talk that Terry mclaurin's going to move around over the
Speaker 1: formation of the One of the criticisms of Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 1: is that his primary receiver was always on the left.
Speaker 3: In preseason, Terry was on all of it, was always
Speaker 3: on left right.
Speaker 1: You played like ninety eight percent of his snaps on
Speaker 1: the left side. But there is talk that in season
Speaker 1: they're gonna move him around. And what we saw in
Speaker 1: preseason was just sort of a watered down version of
Speaker 1: what the Commander's offense is gonna be.
Speaker 4: I hope that's the case.
Speaker 5: I do as well.
Speaker 3: I think though, like as a fantasy community, we're all
Speaker 3: like every conversation I see about these pass catchers are
Speaker 3: like McCaffrey.
Speaker 5: Or Brown or no one talks about Terry. I think
Speaker 5: we have Terry McLaurin fatigue. But like, you get him.
Speaker 3: Outside the top thirty wide receivers right now, he is
Speaker 3: a screaming value. And look, I don't dislike those other guys,
Speaker 3: but give me Terry McLaurin at that price, and that's
Speaker 3: who is gonna get all the volume.
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, no, agree, I agree. And he's the
Speaker 1: one guy that is locked in in Washington. Everybody else
Speaker 1: is up for discussion.
Speaker 2: I got a draft coming up, Floria. That's why I'm
Speaker 2: not talking about him, like I'm pulling the MANI right now,
Speaker 2: just like my.
Speaker 3: Twitter timeline is all about the other two, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: let's keep overlooking.
Speaker 5: Terry McLaurin Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, my guy. I know it's sort of chalky.
Speaker 1: I don't care. It's Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I have become accustomed now to, you know, taking my
Speaker 1: quarterback in a round four or five, you know, like
Speaker 1: that's where I want to go. Usually it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's either a tight end quarterback in four or five
Speaker 1: or flip flop on the other way. More often than that,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is sitting right there for me. He's the
Speaker 1: guy that I want. You know, we know what he
Speaker 1: can do as a rusher. It's another year in Todd
Speaker 1: Monkin's offense. He's gonna get more comfortable.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Look, I still think his passing yards are probably gonna
Speaker 1: be capped around thirty eight hundred or so, maybe he
Speaker 1: gets to four thousand passing yards, but because of what
Speaker 1: he gives you on the ground, you can sort of
Speaker 1: live with that and the fact that now if you're
Speaker 1: a defender, if you're a linebacker, if you're a edge rusher,
Speaker 1: you gotta make that choice. Am I going to stop
Speaker 1: Derek Henry Or am I going to stop Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna mean bigger runs for Lamar. I
Speaker 1: know he doesn't necessarily get used down near the goal line,
Speaker 1: but that's okay because every now and then he'll break
Speaker 1: one from twenty yards out and find himself in the
Speaker 1: end zone. That's fine too, Like I'm okay with that,
Speaker 1: So I willing to take and I think the beauty
Speaker 1: of me for me targeting Lamar is I was saying.
Speaker 4: It's it's sort of like.
Speaker 1: A Pokemon strategy, right, Like you can get evolutions of
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. So if you miss him, then there's Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1: If you miss that, then there's Kyler Murray. If you
Speaker 1: miss that, there's Jaden Daniels. There's like you can sort
Speaker 1: of sort of stay in that same you know, Pokemon family,
Speaker 1: if you will, you know that.
Speaker 2: Is such a great person.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: Also, I don't think people like full like Lamar got
Speaker 3: so much better as the year went on. Last year,
Speaker 3: from week seven on he was on pace for forty
Speaker 3: one hundred yards and thirty two passing touchdowns like that
Speaker 3: would be a career high in passing yards.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He was also on pace during that for eight hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty rushing yards. So like QB one season is
Speaker 3: still in the car, very much.
Speaker 4: In play for Lamar Jackson for sure. All Right.
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Speaker 5: Order.
Speaker 1: Now one last position to get to and that is
Speaker 1: tight end. And so lakon, we were trying to remember
Speaker 1: what exactly was the wager. Is it that if John
Speaker 1: new Smith is not top ten you're gonna die your
Speaker 1: hair blode or if it is top ten, please refresh
Speaker 1: our memories.
Speaker 2: I said, top five. You guys are lowering the bar
Speaker 2: over there because you're trying to get me to go blonde.
Speaker 1: Not happening, But okay, wait, if so, if he is
Speaker 1: top five, you're gonna die your hair to celebrate.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's cool.
Speaker 1: I said, it's just that Floria and I could not remember,
Speaker 1: and so we were just yeah, I figured I put
Speaker 1: it out there, so I guess I spoiled it though.
Speaker 4: John new Smith, Yes, John new Smith, I'm.
Speaker 2: Playing this flag man. Like we look at last year
Speaker 2: was probably like it wasn't even probably. It was his
Speaker 2: most productive year, multiple career highs in multiple categories. And
Speaker 2: I think that's what kind of turned on McDaniel's eyes, like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, I have a speed demon at the tight
Speaker 2: end position. I've now collected all the Infinity speedstones. This
Speaker 2: is what we're gonna be looking at going into this
Speaker 2: next season where he's obviously a target or the dude
Speaker 2: had seventy like when I told like when I was
Speaker 2: talking to one of the fantasy friends that are out
Speaker 2: in the fantasy streets out there, shout out to fantasy fit,
Speaker 2: I was talking about John new Smith and like, the
Speaker 2: dude had seventy targets, Like how how did he do this?
Speaker 2: Being behind Kyle Pitts. And it's because he earned every
Speaker 2: single target and every opportunity, so he's dangerous af there
Speaker 2: to catch. He had five hundred and eighty two yards.
Speaker 2: Sixty one percent of those yards were after to catch,
Speaker 2: which was the fourth highest in the league last year.
Speaker 2: He's dirt cheap, there's a path. There's obviously an opportunity
Speaker 2: for him with Odell Beckham on the pup list, even
Speaker 2: though he wasn't gonna be on the field anyway. But
Speaker 2: Phil like John new Smith, has an honest opportunity to
Speaker 2: actually be a target earner for this Dolphins offense.
Speaker 1: I look, I loved John new Smith during that time
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. I was sad to see him. I was
Speaker 1: sad interesting to see him go to New England. I
Speaker 1: was sad to see him go to New England at
Speaker 1: the same time as Hunter Henry, right, him both going
Speaker 1: at the same time. Right, That made me really really frustrated.
Speaker 1: And you're right, it's funny because you know, as much
Speaker 1: as we focused on Kyle Pitts, Johnny Smith had a
Speaker 1: career high in receiving yards last year. Breakout the season,
Speaker 1: he was, I mean, career high end receptions, career high
Speaker 1: in receiving yards. But we were upset because he's not
Speaker 1: the tight end that we wanted for the Atlanta Falcons, right,
Speaker 1: Like we weren't expecting you know Michael Pruit to be
Speaker 1: throwing him passes or the other way around. However, that
Speaker 1: went at the goal line, in which were where we
Speaker 1: all wanted to punch our television.
Speaker 2: Sets overthinking at maximum capacity at the.
Speaker 4: Goal line, it really was.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, hopefully now being in Miami and the
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel offense does make a difference, make a difference
Speaker 1: for him this year for sure.
Speaker 4: We'll see. Uh but remember.
Speaker 1: If he's in the top five, Lakwan's dyeing his hair blonde,
Speaker 1: I should scould probably write it down.
Speaker 4: So I should write it down somewhere. I'm not going, right, it.
Speaker 3: Should be if he's not, because you're that confident, right, can't.
Speaker 1: You might also have to clear this with the wife too,
Speaker 1: if he's gonna do some man, I won't lie.
Speaker 3: I've already been thinking of like the slim shady puns
Speaker 3: that we can firing off.
Speaker 1: Oh man, uh speaking, Okay, So your tight end, I
Speaker 1: was trying to make a slim shady p There's none.
Speaker 1: There's none right here in front of me. But who
Speaker 1: is your tight end, Florida that you are planting a
Speaker 1: flag for.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say that Marcus's tight end is also
Speaker 3: very much so my one of my guys a tight
Speaker 3: end this year. But Trey McBride is one that I
Speaker 3: think I've kind of flag planted on because I have
Speaker 3: him ranked as the tight end one, and in most
Speaker 3: people's rankings or drafts he is not. I know a
Speaker 3: couple other people do, but not a lot of people
Speaker 3: value him as that. And it's like I went on
Speaker 3: The Insiders the other day and Ian Rappaport was like, what,
Speaker 3: and I was like, let me explain. Kyler was the
Speaker 3: tight end one. I'm sorry, Trade McBride was the tight
Speaker 3: end one last year with Kyler Murray. He was the
Speaker 3: tight end one and target share with Kyler Murray. On
Speaker 3: the course of the season. He was third in yards
Speaker 3: per route ran of the top ten quarterbacks. He had
Speaker 3: the fewest percentage of his points come from touchdowns. So
Speaker 3: I think a better offense with Kyler Murray here the
Speaker 3: full year, Marvin Harrison, all those guys will lead to
Speaker 3: more scoring opportunities. And then even just factoring in the
Speaker 3: quarterback play he had and everything last year from the
Speaker 3: day he took over from Zach Ertz, his seventeen game
Speaker 3: pace was for over eleven hundred yards and almost one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty targets. Like, I know he's not going
Speaker 3: to get that many targets with Marvin Harrison there, but
Speaker 3: I still think he could get twenty two to twenty
Speaker 3: five percent target share, And if he gets a couple
Speaker 3: more touchdowns going his way, which I think will happen,
Speaker 3: I think he'll be the best tight end in fantasy.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's definitely in the realm of possibility.
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people were having that
Speaker 1: conversation about moving him up to the number one spot, so.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: He's also that guy that's certainly earlier in draft season
Speaker 1: you were getting knowing you could get high level production
Speaker 1: without paying the high level price. I think unfortunately, you know,
Speaker 1: the hype has caught up so for him, for Mark Andrews,
Speaker 1: like the ADP gone up. But LaQuan, I'll say this,
Speaker 1: you still aren't having to necessarily pay the Kelsey Laporta
Speaker 1: type price. You know, You're still you can wait maybe
Speaker 1: a couple of rounds and still get those guys, and
Speaker 1: I think that alone gives them great value.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I definitely feel like, you know, flag planning Tray
Speaker 2: McBride is the way to go this season because you
Speaker 2: have to believe in this Cardinals offense, and I don't
Speaker 2: want to pay the high price, you know, for the
Speaker 2: kel season Laporta and stuff like that, because I think
Speaker 2: Trey McBride is kind of falling in that tier where
Speaker 2: it's like, I rather him who's available at the running
Speaker 2: back or even at the wide receiver position where he's
Speaker 2: going at. So I feel like he'll be able to
Speaker 2: perform at a high level this season. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 2: we already know the connection between him and Kyler is
Speaker 2: going to be one of those things that might be
Speaker 2: off and on, but it's going to be very on
Speaker 2: once he gets to that red zone and where it
Speaker 2: comes to the touchdowns, No hundred percent.
Speaker 4: So I'm in on on Trey McBride for sure.
Speaker 1: I save this for the end because I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm speaking for all of us here in that The
Speaker 1: tight end I'm flag planting for is Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 4: Let's go, right, if.
Speaker 1: We're gonna finish it, if we're gonna finish out a
Speaker 1: show about our guys, we got to finish it out
Speaker 1: with Kyle Pitts and we have sat and talked forever
Speaker 1: and ever about why we love Kyle Pitts. Everything coming together,
Speaker 1: the quarterback change, the coaching change, uh, the the healthy
Speaker 1: clean bill of health after finding out that he was
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent last year. Everything is coming together.
Speaker 1: It is the perfect storm of opportunity for Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 1: I know that for the most part, the fantasy community
Speaker 1: has kind of gotten back behind this.
Speaker 4: Look. I get it. There are some people who were just.
Speaker 1: Out right that Kyle Pitts burned you one too many
Speaker 1: times over the last couple of years. There's some people
Speaker 1: who are just out But I think everybody who's taking
Speaker 1: a step back and sort of looking at this with
Speaker 1: their heads and not their hearts can make the case.
Speaker 4: For why Kyle Pitts is the guy.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you're here, man, I'm glad you're on
Speaker 1: board now, laqual And I know you weren't. You weren't
Speaker 1: here a while. You're on Kyle Pitts, you eat strawberries,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be unrecognizable by the end of the year.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be wild.
Speaker 2: Well blonde hair. I guess too, huh right me?
Speaker 1: The whole thing, Like you're gonna be a whole new
Speaker 1: man by the time we get to December.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so can't wait. Uh there it is. Uh those
Speaker 4: are our guys, fellas we are. We are one step
Speaker 4: closer to football.
Speaker 1: Lakwan Flora and I were talking this morning that like
Speaker 1: I think we're at O.
Speaker 4: My take O meter is it's on E.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It's like tapenee right now. It's like,
Speaker 2: all right, let's just get on the field, let's score
Speaker 2: some touchdowns and let's see what we got.
Speaker 1: I am running on take fumes at this point, like
Speaker 1: I just need for something to happen.
Speaker 4: So there it is. In the meantime, that will do it.
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