1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: your home of the Black and Gold s n R 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Yes, welcome to the five. I'm Dale 4 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: Lolly here with Matt Williamson. And well it's Friday. It 5 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: is Friday. Just had a game and now we have 6 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: another one right around the corner. Yeah, and uh, well, 7 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: such is life nowadays. We would love to talk about 8 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: said game, but having some technical issues, having some technical 9 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: issues here in the studio because apparently it's uh this 10 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: studio we can't get internet service, which is kind of 11 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 1: a big deal. Yeah, it's sort of important for things 12 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: we reference throughout the show and whatnot. It would be nice, 13 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: so we will fly by the seat of our pants 14 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: and see what the heck happens. Great. Yeah, I don't 15 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: I have no idea where we're gonna go with this 16 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: or where we can't go with this, but we will 17 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: go with it for the next two hours. Um yeah um. 18 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: So Steelers had their first practice today. I do know 19 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: what the practice report was. I did see that. No 20 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: Steven Nelson today. Ben Roethlisberger got the day off. That's it. 21 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Everybody else doesn't go is laying the fill in when 22 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: when they got when Joe Hay got hurt in game 23 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: against Jacksonville, they brought Cam Sutton in. I'm in the base, 24 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: and then when they went to the dime or nickel 25 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: or dime, Sutton kicked inside and Lane came in to 26 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: play the outside, and Hilton would be out and base. 27 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well no, Hilton's he's inside. Yeah, Okay, I 28 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: see what you're saying. So Sutton would be the early 29 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: down outside corner and Lane would be the late down 30 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: if they go to the dime. I don't know that 31 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: you're not gonna play dime against Washington very often. They're 32 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: more of a heavier person all the time. I think 33 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: they played maybe, I know Marcus Allen played three snaps. 34 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing all this stuff completely off memory here. It's 35 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: a good thing I have a good memory, because you know, 36 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: I looked at these things earlier in the day and 37 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: now you know they're kind of ingrained there. But Marcus 38 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: Allen played three snaps against against the Ravens on Wednesday. Um, 39 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: so they were I'm assuming they were only in the 40 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: dime three times. Okay, yeah, I mean he's the dime 41 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: back he's the dimebackers. I don't sit there in the 42 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: press box and chart Well there and Nickel there, and 43 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: I mean I may make note of it. Sometimes it's 44 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: not like Baltimore is a heavy three or four wide 45 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: receiver team. I don't think neither is Washington. I sent 46 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: you some stats last out what I'd love to be 47 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: able to access him here, but I don't believe I can. 48 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: Maybe I can't hear h Terry McLaurin um. He's their 49 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: entire passing game. He really is. Although I meant to 50 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: send you something back. Gibson's role has really grown lately, 51 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: but for the season. For the season, it's not even close. 52 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: And he's he's been targeted twenty seven point three percent 53 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: of there with twenty seven point three percent of their 54 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: past attempts have targeted him. That that's fourth most in 55 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: the Laker Throws that come out of any of their 56 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: quarterback's hands go to the same guy that everyone's rolling 57 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: coverage to. His nine eighty three receiving yards are six 58 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five more than the next closest guy 59 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: on the team, which is J. D. Mckissic. He has 60 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: three thirty eight. They are seven hundred and eighteen yards 61 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: more than the next closest receiver, which is Sims, who 62 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: has thirteen catches in the beginning, thirteen catches. That's their 63 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: number two guy. That's the number two guy. I mean, 64 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: it really is McLaurin or dump at the backs. That's 65 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: the whole offense. That's the whole offense. So if Smith, yeah, 66 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna why would you rushed? 67 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: If Steven Nelson is you don't play him in this game. 68 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: I don't think you play him in this game. I 69 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: mean McClaren moves all over, and you'd like him against 70 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: Nelson as opposed to his backup. But I'm gonna double 71 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: him every time he's out there. He anyway, right, I 72 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: mean exactly, That's that's your point. And you know Gibson 73 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: in the in the Mkissic have gotten a lot of 74 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 1: targets since Smith has been there. It's starting to drift 75 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: more towards Gibson. Well, yeah, because all the like Smith 76 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: that does his swing the ball swing passes all day long, 77 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: or all one yard throws or behind the line of 78 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: scrimmage or that's another at that I saw. Alex Smith's 79 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: is thirty third out of thirty three qualifying quarterbacks in 80 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: yards perpasse attempt and you can do that. Yeah, it's 81 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: like five yards perpasse attempt. He's always his air. Don 82 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: I should say up football outsiders, Oh I love this. 83 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: I love to. But if you've seen their metric there, 84 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: alex a l A l e X metric, well they 85 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: it's a joke off of Alex Smith. And I forget 86 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: what a L e X actually stands for, but what 87 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: it means. It means quarterback who refuses to throw the 88 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: ball down the field is what it means. Yes, but 89 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: they have a metric where they judge how short of 90 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: the sticks you are on average on third downs, or 91 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: maybe your five yards pass the sticks whatever. If it's 92 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: third and eight you throw it six yard pass, it's 93 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: minus two. If you throw a ten yard pass, it's 94 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: plus two. Every year of his career he was either 95 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: first or second in most conservative and or shortest throws. 96 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: I mean even not even the first intense situations. I 97 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: mean for in third and fifteens, he's dumping it off, like, 98 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: refuses to take chances with the ball and is ultra conservative. 99 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: And that's before I don't mean to be rude, shattered 100 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: his leg. You know, I mean, I mean that was 101 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: before injuries and age. That was him in his prime. Well, 102 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: and and I saw some things that well, you know, 103 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: r G three didn't do much in that game the 104 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: other day, but he showed some teams how they can 105 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: beat the Steelers by having their quarterback do design runs. 106 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: You're not gonna do a design run with Alex. Now, 107 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: maybe maybe Buffalo will two weeks from now, and they 108 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: do that anyways, but Alex Smith. They didn't want Alex 109 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: Smith running around with the football. And he used to 110 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: be a very good athlete. Remember that Cleveland's not going 111 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: to do that with with Mayfield, like most teams aren't 112 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: that aren't equipped to do that, not like a Ravens level, 113 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: you know, right. Um, I was in the war room 114 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: when Al Smith came out. That was the years with 115 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 1: the Browns. He was the first pick in the draft. 116 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: We had the third pick in the draft. We end 117 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: up taking Braylon Edwards. Um, but he was you know, 118 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: so we watched them heavy, and I mean I've just 119 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: in case games, you know, and also Aaron Rodgers. And 120 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: believe it or not, the Browns like Rogers more than Smith. 121 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: But they we like put but still passed on him 122 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: could be like one. Um, but Smith was a tremendous 123 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: athlete before. He was a little ahead of his time. 124 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean, because Athletics spread quarterbacks. That was like the 125 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: knock on him was, well, this is what do you 126 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: do with Yeah, I mean that was a big deal 127 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: with him coming out, you know, and even like the 128 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: Tedford guys and all those now everybody's doing it now, 129 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: he'd be perfect for it, you know. And but he 130 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: would throw the ball down the field. Still has that problem. 131 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: He's still way too conservative with the ball and he 132 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: makes Teddy Bridgewater look like a gambler. He does it, 133 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: really does. It really does. And what's interesting to me 134 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: in this game, and the Steelers do it for a 135 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: different reason. Maybe the two best pass rush teams in 136 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 1: the league, but they probably play the two passing games 137 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: that get it out the quickest in the league. I 138 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: know the Steelers do. Yeah, but I'm sure Watchington's clothes, 139 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: especially with Smith run the show. Yeah. And you know 140 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: there's a reason why, um, the Steelers would always beat 141 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: those Andy Reid teams with Alex Smith at quarterback. Yeah, 142 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: because he doesn't challenge the defense at all down the field. 143 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: It's all swing. They're they're gonna they're they're just gonna 144 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,119 Speaker 1: play his zone and tackle the tackle the ball carries. 145 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: That's what their cornerbacks were always built to do. They 146 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: still do do that well. I mean, they're always been 147 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: a good tackling So okay, you hit, you connected that 148 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: two yards, you get that past three yards. Okay, now 149 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: it's third and five and you hit another swing pass 150 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: and it goes for twyards. Punt. They probably won't blitz much. 151 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: They'll probably hover around, you know, the five yards off 152 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. That's what I would do. See it, 153 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: ball comes out, tackle and I mean, I don't mean 154 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: to talk about both sides of the mouth. It works 155 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: a lot better for the Steelers because it's they're throwing 156 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: too receivers on crossing routes and you scheming open as 157 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: opposed to M dump to the back. I mean J 158 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: D mckissic a couple of weeks ago, um, when I 159 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: think it was Alex Smith's first start against Detroit had 160 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: fifteen targets. Yeah, J mckiss he's JD McKissick. He's okay 161 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: receiving back, but he's I would love to be able 162 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: to tell you what, Jade mckissics. You know, targets are 163 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: for the season, but fifteen in one game was a lot. 164 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: You know. Ekeler got that the other day. But he should. 165 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: He's Austin Ekeler. He's a little different. McCaffrey or speaking Kamara, 166 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't believe since I saw this that as well. Yeah, 167 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: since Taysom Hills become quarterback for the for the Saints, 168 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara is not gotting a targets. I know. I 169 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: think that's very true. That's coaching. That's coaching. My practice 170 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: is I excuse this last week on that one just 171 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: because I know for a fact that they're a little worried. 172 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: Oh every year they're a little worried of overworking Kamara. 173 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: And if you're gonna play a team without a quarterback, yeah, 174 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: let's take a break, Ouvin. We'll give it to you 175 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: might want to throw it to him once though, you 176 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: would think that's still that's what he's I mean, that's 177 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: his superpower, right, you know what I mean? Um, yeah, 178 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: but he'll's not gonna do that. He'll runs, you know, 179 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: and now Smith kind of doesn't. He can't run. Yeah, 180 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: he can't run, and he wants to throw dump offs 181 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: all the time, and he's naturally conservative. You probably won't 182 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: turn him over. So in this game, Um, you know, 183 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of single high, like robber coverage 184 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: from the from the step. I expect to see a 185 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: lot more of that. Do you need to single high? 186 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: That's the question. Yeah. I wonder if you've impressed man 187 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: and tried to disrupt quickly, you know the quick hitting routes, 188 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: try to get your hands in on stuff, or do 189 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: you just play his own tackle? See if you can 190 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: get ten yards in three plays, that's a lot. I 191 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: mean with this defense, I think that would be my 192 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: that would be what I would do. Okay, if you 193 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: could drive the length of the field on us in 194 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: fourteen plays, dinking and dunking, have at it, because at 195 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: some point you're gonna get and I don't know about 196 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: a holding call, but at some point you're gonna get it. 197 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: Maybe a false start or you know, illegal formation or 198 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna you know, something's gonna happen. You're gonna have 199 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: an couple of incompletions and we're gonna get off the field. 200 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: And I think I play quite a few eight man boxes. Yeah, 201 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think happens to be near the line 202 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: of scrimmage a lot Gibson worries me. I think Gibson 203 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: is an emerging player, and the talent is obvious, the 204 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: the running back traits are obvious, the running back skills 205 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: are developing. Um, you know, he doesn't have a track record, 206 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: but if he gets free a few times, they can 207 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: create chunk yardage, you know, without a doubt. But if 208 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: I've got eight or nine guys in a box, I'm 209 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: not really concerned about him getting necessarily getting That's my 210 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: point is I want, I'm more worried about him as 211 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: a runner, like a guy that I am. Alex Smith 212 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: beating me on twelve yard outs, Yeah, that's not gonna happen. 213 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: He's not gonna throw it now, Yeah, But I mean 214 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: it's it's still the best their quarterback situation has been 215 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: all year, which says something about the quarter better. Yeah, 216 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: how things are going there. But I mean his last 217 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: two games, he's thrown for anank a hundred sixty and 218 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty yards. Is that true? That's how he's 219 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: been on He threw for three through for three against 220 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: Detroit and net loss to the Lions. Didn't throw he 221 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: had I think he had fifty. He was like fifty passes? 222 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: Were they all the ones? Kiss? Right? That was the mckissi. 223 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: No touchdown passes, no interceptions. That's really hard to do 224 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You throw for three DS and don't 225 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: throw for a touchdown pass never puts the ball on 226 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: harm's way, never and never threatens the the either. You know, 227 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: like that's the He's the epitome of that state. He 228 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: is the epitome of He's quarterback whitebread. Right. He is 229 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: boring as can be. Yeah, he's melbourt toast. He's boring 230 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: all day long. But he's the epitome of that guy 231 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: that we talked about that there's no stats for where 232 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: the ball should come out. He doesn't because that happens 233 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: all the time. And that's why he's That's why he's 234 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: bounced on the legue a little bit. You know, Andy 235 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: Reid drafted Mahomes after they made during his best year 236 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: and lit a fire on extreme opposite right, you know, 237 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean they Alex Smith that one big year with 238 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: an amazing Chiefs group and had drafted Mahomes. You see 239 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: that year, you see what Mahomes is doing with that 240 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: same group, largely the same group now right right, and 241 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: Reid was able to coax some aggressiveness out of him, 242 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: basically saying, you're gonna lose your job, Mahomes, anyway, you 243 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: might as well take some shots, take some shots. But 244 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: since then and before then, not at all. And he's 245 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: not a bad player. It's just that's what he is. No. 246 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if if you've got a great defense, a 247 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: great running game, like some coward teams could have used, absolutely, yeah, 248 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: he would have been He would have been great on 249 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: those teams. He would have taken them to you know, 250 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: a super Bowl or two if they had an Alex Smith. 251 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: Guy wasn't gonna put the ball in harms ways, you know, 252 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: but times have changed a lot, they have you you 253 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: the caretaker quarterbacks just don't get it done in today's eight. 254 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Stan was asking me today, you know, well, 255 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: how does the Steeler defense stack up? Again? The chief 256 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: So I'm like better than most, but offenses win in 257 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Now, I mean, the game isn't a 258 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: race to twenty, it's a race to thirty. It's a 259 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: race to thirty five. Defenses get tired. Um, it doesn't 260 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: matter what offense. They are, They're gonna figure you out 261 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: to some degree that you've got to have a quarterback 262 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: that's a playmaker. And this is a bigger conversation for 263 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, like the Bend replacement. When that time comes, 264 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,359 Speaker 1: I need an athlete. I need some kind of playmaker. 265 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: And if that means some turnovers here and there or 266 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: some Josh Allen like wildness, so be it. That's why 267 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: people are the teams are willing to take a chance 268 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: on the true biskys, the locks right right tools. Yeah, 269 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: And so that's that's today's NFL. I will say this. 270 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: I was asked today about the Chiefs team. I did 271 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: my live cues today, um and I was asked, well, 272 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers are making way too many mistakes. 273 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: All we've seen mistakes all season long. I'm like, well, 274 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: first of all, they're eleven and oh yeah and in 275 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: the in the in the question was a especially on offense, 276 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: Like you realize the nineteen points they scored against the 277 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: Ravens was a season low. Okay, yeah, they're averaging like 278 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: thirty points a game. They've only been under twenty six 279 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: points twice. They had twenty four against the Cowboys in 280 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: in the nineteen against against UH the Baltimore. Every other 281 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: game they've been at twenty six or above and number yeah, 282 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have scored. They scored twenty three and overtime 283 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: against the Chargers. They had two games at twenty six, 284 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: one against the Bills, won against UH. I'd love to 285 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: I can't remember the other game, but twice at twenty 286 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: six and then twenty seven in the game against Tampa Bay. 287 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: They're not exactly. I mean, yes, they've got a talented offense, 288 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: but it's not like what it was. It's not like 289 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: last you know, when they were forty and he was 290 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: throwing five touchdown because I think I don't I don't 291 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: think they trust their offensive line. I think that's a 292 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: big part of it. I think you're a percent right. 293 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: They run the ball now more than they do. They 294 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: shortened games more than they used to, and their offensive line, 295 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: especially guard to guard, is a liability. I think they 296 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: saw last year. They got a glimpse last year of 297 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: what things look like when Mahomes is injured, and they 298 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: don't want to do that again. And I'm sure that 299 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: comes from ownership, but even the NFL that works on 300 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: now and that Tampa case game is on and it's 301 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: the second quarter with him, and it's left and they're 302 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: up seventeen nothing and Tyreek already has or whatever. But 303 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: if you watch the game and really pay attention in 304 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: the second half, you could be can you can use 305 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: the argument that Casey didn't keep their hand their foot 306 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: on the gas, or you can realize Tampa's a pretty 307 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: well coordinated defense and realized they changed things up. Yeah, 308 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: we're not gonna play man coverage on Tyreek alone. We 309 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: screwed that up. And they made life tough for this offense. 310 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a really, really good offense. It's the 311 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: best offense in the league. It's the last quarterback I'd 312 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: ever want to play against. But if you make them 313 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: drive the field and you play a lot more zone, 314 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: you you make it a little tough on him again, 315 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I mean forty every week. You 316 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: know they haven't done I mean again two years ago, 317 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: that's what they did every week every week. You know. 318 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: Now it's I think there's a little bit more of 319 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: a book on him. He can still make plays and 320 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: and and hurt you and you know, but people are 321 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: choosing death by a thousand paper cuts as opposed absolutely, 322 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: which is right, what you have to do, which is 323 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, that's the way the Steelers play things. Yeah, 324 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: every week, right, right, And he's the opposite of Alex 325 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: Smith obviously, I mean he can hurt you in so 326 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: many ways. Um, what was that going with that? But still, 327 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: I mean points, I don't know the steel fans realize, 328 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: I mean points per game the Steelers are. They were 329 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: third last time I checked, that was a week or so. Again, 330 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: now they're I'm sure they're top five. I'm sure they're 331 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: still in Yeah, they're easily. They're still easily in the 332 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: top ten. They're not far off Kansas City and Green Bay. 333 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: And they're scoring points points. Yeah, and they've got some 334 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: games coming up in some other games here that they're 335 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: going to score more points. Like they played the Browns again, 336 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: They've lit the Browns on fire the last time they play. 337 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: They played the Bengals again, they let the Bengals on 338 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: fire the last time they play. How many points they 339 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: leave on the field on Wednesday? Yeah. Well, and and 340 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: we brought this up earlier in the season as well. 341 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: I mean, they finished a couple of games this year, 342 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: like at the game against the Giants, are kneeling on 343 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: the ball inside the twenty. You know, they're their red 344 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: zone numbers. They were. They were going into that game 345 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: against the Ravens. They were converting of the red zone 346 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: opportunities in the touchdowns. It was like fifth in the league. 347 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: There were at least two opportunities early in the season 348 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: where they were kneeling on the football in the red zone. 349 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: So I mean they're well over. No, they're scoring, and 350 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: they put a couple points on the board on defense, 351 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: and they would have scored in that the game against 352 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 1: Baltimore had they just caught a couple of balls. So 353 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: it's I'm not Randy Faker was asked about that today, says, look, 354 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not ready to jump off a bridge 355 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: over that one game. Like it's one game. It was 356 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: pretty obvious what happened. I mean, that drop shouldn't have happened. 357 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: Will it happened again, Maybe then we'll really have a problem. 358 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: It's probably an isolated but it hasn't. But it hasn't. 359 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: There's no reason to think that that was not an outlier. 360 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson, I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to 361 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take 362 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: a break and we'll be back right after this. Your 363 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: tunes about drive on Home of the Black and Goal 364 00:19:22,800 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back up Dale, were Matt Winnson 365 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: met Um Quick a little news and notes are t J. 366 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: Watt named the a FC Defensive Player of the Month 367 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: for the month of November. That's his second Defensive Player 368 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: of the Month award this year. Three We've only had 369 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: three Miles Garrett missed a couple of games on the 370 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: COVID list. Yeah right, I think he's back this one. 371 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: He's back this week. Is what has what passed him? 372 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: In Defensive Player of the Year? I think so. He's 373 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: got eleven sacks at least the NFL. UM he's had 374 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: other big plays, He's on the top defense, the team's undefeated, 375 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: all those things matter and awards season. Um, I don't 376 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: know that he's played better football, but it's obviously close. 377 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: But Garrett missing time hurts you dramatically. Yeah. Um, I 378 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: still think Donald is always, always, always in the mix. 379 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: But I'm struggling a little bit to say who else 380 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: is right there with t J. I think Garrett has 381 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: dropped off. Yeah, I think he has as well. And 382 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: you know, I think with in terms of when you 383 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: start talking about Donald, he's won the award what three times, 384 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: I think people start to look for reasons not to 385 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: vote for the guy, like you want somebody new in there. 386 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: That's true. I mean, if you're if you're torn, if 387 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: it's a no brainer, you take the guy. That's a 388 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: no brainer. But I think if you're torn, it probably 389 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: hurts the incumbent, the you know, the top dog, a 390 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: guy like Donald or d J's brother a couple of 391 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: years ago. I mean, JJ really could have wanted every 392 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: year for five or six years in a row. Um. Yeah, 393 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to scan in my mind a little bit. 394 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: You know, there's not a Buccaneer that comes to mind 395 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: as a great, great defensive player at the moment um. 396 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: Thinking it's you know, some of the other top teams. 397 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: Kansas City doesn't have a guy. Um, the Bill's defense 398 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: is down. There's there's not a raven that comes to mind, 399 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: and they're struggling a little bit. I'm really racking my 400 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: rain here. You know, Darius Leonard missed a lot of 401 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: time too. I mean, he's one of the better defenses. 402 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: Let me just say this, You're Happy Dale. My friend 403 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: Greg Rish, who's an engineer. Man the engineer here for 404 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: for a clear channel. Uh. He has been out actually 405 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: with COVID and UM and he shot a coyote today. 406 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: Good for him. But he just he just sent me 407 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: the password here for one of the one of the 408 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: other studios. And so we now have internet baby. Yeah, alright. 409 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: Greg's a man. Greg's a man, So we can now 410 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: we can know access, we have access to stuff. So 411 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I think you know if you start looking 412 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: at overall, I mean, sacks are the are the like 413 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: I was looking at the Pro Bowl voting. I don't 414 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: know if you've looked at this and the fan voting. 415 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: And so for like defensive lineman and edge guys, uh, 416 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: they list they have like their they have all their 417 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: other stuff us, but they'll have a prime stat that 418 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: they list and it's sacks. And they have they have 419 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: everybody ordered by sacks, even though you know it's it's 420 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: just one stat. Yeah. Uh, for defensive backs, safeties and corners, 421 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: they have interceptions and they're all ordered by interest, like 422 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: and there's so much more that the the you know, 423 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: the off ball linebackers are all listening by how many 424 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: tackles they have. You know, it's like you get too 425 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: caught up in the stats and I'm just looking. I'm like, okay, 426 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: who would I vote for here? And you know, like 427 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking at the cornerbacks and I'm like, okay, 428 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: where are some of the good cornerbacks here? And they're 429 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: way down the list. Because Jalen Ramsey got one interception? 430 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: Is you nobody throws at it after the day, but 431 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: you're not gonna you're gonna vote for some of You're 432 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: gonna vote for. J C. Jackson goes, well, he's got 433 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: six interceptions. But if you've watched New England play, j C. 434 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: Jackson hasn't been any good this year. That's why he's 435 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: got all the intercept I'm curious. So I guess there's 436 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: been six Player of the Month awards for defense right 437 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: three NFC, three A A, F C. TJ's got to 438 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: I don't know who the others are, but so he's 439 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: gotten a third of these so far. I don't know. 440 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure no one else has too. I'm sure Donald 441 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: Donalds has won at least one. Yeah, maybe Garrett sting 442 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: them between Garrett won the one and yeah he won 443 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: he won October. Yeah, I'm just trying to think who 444 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: that's a pretty strong case for the big award. You know, 445 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: if you can say, hey, I got more of these 446 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: than anybody, especially if you finish it, if you're getting recognized. 447 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: Here's the thing about the Steelers defense and bring us 448 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: up again. I asked Mica Fitzpatrick about it after the 449 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: game in Jacksonville when he had the interception off the 450 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: tip ball down by the goal line. I said, you know, 451 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: just I asked him, do things slow down for you 452 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: when the balls tipped in the air like that? Hecaes, Oh, no, 453 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: they speed up because you're gonna get there because if 454 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: somebody else will beat you to it. That's kind of 455 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: the Steelers defense in a nutshell, like if you don't 456 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: get there quickly, Like how many times have you seen 457 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: Cam Heyward be the second guy? Oh, sure to the 458 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: to you know, Cam should have about twelve sacks this year, 459 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: but somebody beat him to somebody beat him to it 460 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: because the other guys are really good too. Yeah, there's 461 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: some of that, And I've even heard super Steelers say 462 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: stuff like that, like man, I had beat on this 463 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: guy and Joe Green peb two. That kind of stuff, 464 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: And I guess that's common with all kinds of great 465 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: defenses littered with Pro bowlers and Hall of famers. But 466 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: I even remember a play I don't remember the exact 467 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: way it went yesterday Wednesday, where basically when it's happened 468 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: many times this year, Watton the pre basically met at 469 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback and they had this fun little handshake thing 470 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: go and you know, after the good play, it makes 471 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: me think a little, oh, I miss Bud. But um, 472 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: you know how many times does those type of things 473 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: happen where two or three get there at once where 474 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: it only takes one right and when one guy's getting 475 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: like the sack, the first sack I think it was 476 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: the first sack against the Ravens on Wednesday. What comes 477 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: in trips up r G three who kind of stumbles 478 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: forward and then Hayward and Dupre hit him and there 479 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: was a lot of well Hayward, Hayward was laying on 480 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: top of him. Dupre came in from the front side 481 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: and finished putting him on the ground. So the best 482 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: play was made by wat Right and initially the sack 483 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: was was given to Dupri and then Dupri and Hayward 484 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: shared the sack. Then I hear that the chattering behind 485 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: me because I sit right in front of the stat guys. 486 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,479 Speaker 1: And they decided to give the just do They said, well, 487 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: dupri wasn't gonna get to say, he would have gotten 488 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: the sack had he gone another step forward, but Heywards 489 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: on his legs. We're gonna give Hayward the sack. Then 490 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: the NFL called and said, no, you're gonna give that. 491 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: That's what should have that sack because he was going down. 492 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: He was going down and Hayward fell on top of him. Saying, 493 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: so there were three guys there who could have could 494 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: have gotten the only one gets it brings up another 495 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: topic that just rubs me wrong, Like there really shouldn't 496 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: be half sacks. There should not be the you don't 497 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: give half tackles. You don't give half tackles. And let's 498 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: say they originally gave it to Cam and Budd as 499 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: a half each. Well, just because the other one is 500 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: there doesn't mean that Bud wouldn't have done on his 501 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: own right. But you know what I mean, like, why 502 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: did my teammates You don't share interceptions, you don't, right, 503 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: But if it's three guys, they'll get a half, right, 504 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: it's not like we needed all three. We've seen You've 505 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: seen situations over the years where three guys met at 506 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Who gets there first, you know. So that's 507 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: that's part of the problem with this Steelers defense is 508 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: like there there, So now there's one less guy in 509 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: the equation with Bud Dupree. I wonder if we see 510 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: the sack numbers now go up for Hayward. We saw 511 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: him get to the quarterback once the other day. Um, 512 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: he would have had a sack and a half in 513 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: that game. Actually they took the half off of him. Um, 514 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: he's not got I think now he right now, he 515 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: has four sacks on the season. Some people look at well, 516 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: he's not having a really good year, you know, watching 517 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: what's going on. Uh, you don't just measure it. It's 518 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: the same thing that people used to say about two. 519 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: Well too, it's not playing very well. He only has 520 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: three sacks. Watch what Watch the game. Watch the game, 521 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: especially at that position too, I mean interior players, and 522 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: a lot of the stunts and things they do are 523 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: to it or Hayward or Lulu taking two blocks. He's 524 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: grabbing these two guys with him, and it's allowing hind 525 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: or you know, I mean, no kind of things are invaluable, 526 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: and if they weren't fearing you were getting driven back 527 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: on their heels, it wouldn't have worked, you know. I mean, 528 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: so sacks to your point with the Pro Bowl having 529 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: one big stat like that is really foolish. And I'm 530 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: sure excuse viewer or voters like crazy. Yeah, I mean 531 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at you know, tackles for losses, quarterback hits, 532 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: those kind of things. Are you getting a lot of 533 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: those like we've seen for example, beat Vic Beasley, Yes 534 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: for Atlanta what was it two thousand fifteen quite a 535 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: while ago, and led the league in sacks, but he 536 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: had like he had like sixteen pressures for the season, 537 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: so every time he got a pressure, he got the sack. Yes, 538 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: And it wasn't a they were Pro Football focus a 539 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: fair amount. But I think they're right. That's one thing 540 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: that they do right, pressures. They will always be like 541 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: Brandy Graham's at one of their guys, super high pressure guy, 542 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: but not a mean a good sack guy, not a 543 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: great sack right, like he influences that that was the 544 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: number that was that was the thing on to it 545 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: to get a lot of pressures. It wasn't getting the 546 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: sack again. Somebody else is beating him to the guy right, 547 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: or you're forcing a quarterback to throat and seats or yeah, 548 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: or you force him to go the other way and 549 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: somebody else gets him right. Yeah, I mean high pressure numbers. 550 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: And to pro football focuses credit too. They've been around 551 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: long enough that they'll be like, he's had three big 552 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: years of high high pressures, but not a lot of sacks. 553 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: The sacks are coming. We're predicting the big sack year 554 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: and they're usually. That's why it was easy. I mean, 555 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: it's been easy to predict that two. It's gonna the 556 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: breakout year was coming for to it impacting games. The 557 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: sacks were gonna come, and they have this year. If 558 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: you look at the sack numbers across the league right now, 559 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: what leads with eleven it's Donald Donald with and Trey 560 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: Hendrickson has nine and a half. Yeah, that defense coming on, 561 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: they're coming on. Yeah, Garrett's at nine and a half. 562 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: People don't know Zadarius Smith is at nine. Garrett wasn't 563 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: the other one in there. Garrett was. He's tied for third. 564 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: Uh six is Jason Pierre Paul is having a good season. 565 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: He's got eight and a half. Bud Dupree is tied 566 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: with Emmanuel Agba. It's seventh with eight. Um. I mean, 567 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: with all respect to t J and no one's having that. 568 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: Shack Barrett way more sacks than games. I mean, what's 569 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: what's on pace right now for sixteen sacks, which would 570 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: also be a team record with tie the team record, 571 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: Let's say that doesn't always lead the league. And I'm 572 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: sitting there thinking, like, sack numbers I'm sure are down overall, 573 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: they are down. I mean when you when you look 574 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: at it across the league, they're down except for Pittsburgh 575 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: and Washington. Um, any of the Washington guys anywhere close. 576 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking here, and I don't see I know, 577 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: young miss some time, they're they're top guy as Montes 578 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: Sweat was six, that's bed. I mean he was on 579 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: paste that you know, finished with eight or nine. That's 580 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: a good year. People want to talk about him a lot, 581 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: but I mean Washington traded back in the first round 582 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: last year. So this is really his this his second season, 583 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: really long lean wasted, you know, combined guy fast us 584 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: is gonna have his handful with Yeah, and he gets 585 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: singled a lot because of who's around him. He's kind 586 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: of their bud dupre a much different style of player, 587 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: but he's got a bright future too. Yeah, I think 588 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: so as well. Ryan Carrigan actually comes off the bench 589 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: for them with he's got five and a half. They 590 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: they spread it around a little bit, but really they're 591 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: a four rush, four men rush team, so it's gonna 592 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: be interesting to see how the Steelers attack that. Very 593 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: much like the Giants. Yeah, agreed. Yeah, I would think 594 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: both teams blitz infrequently just because you don't get home 595 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: against the ball comes out so fast. I mean, I'd 596 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: rather leave that guy in coverage. The Steelers. The Steelers 597 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: aren't blitzing as much as they think people they used 598 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: to be, right. Everyone just assumes a lot of pressures 599 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: mean a lot of blitz and I guess Steeler history 600 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: short of shows that, you know, that's just the mindset. 601 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: Keith Butler said that today because hey, we're not the 602 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: heavy blitzing team that we were in the past. We 603 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: still blitz, but we don't blitz as much because they 604 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: don't have to. I mean, certainly the first one month 605 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: of the year, the sixty after the first two games, 606 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: they were, but you look at who they played right, right, 607 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: and there were a lot of run blitzes and stuff 608 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: like that too for Sa Kwan and um you know, 609 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks. But I bet if you look at you know, 610 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: what's your blitz percentage per game? I'm sure now they're 611 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: probably in the league in the league you know recently, 612 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, as opposed to the cumulative status for the year, 613 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: and probably you're still pretty high because they were insane 614 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: if it start, Yeah, they're still there's still above but 615 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: when you consider they were above six now after the 616 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: first two games, it's actually like sixty three point seven percent. 617 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if memory served, that's what they were after 618 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: the two first two games. And now they're we're hovering 619 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: right around, so it's going down and the pressure rate 620 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: is not going to Yeah, they've also you know, if 621 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: you remember those first two games, we're exposing the secondary 622 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: a little bit too much too, because they were they 623 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,479 Speaker 1: were blitzing so much. Now they're playing a little more 624 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: coverage and the passing numbers have slowly creeped down to 625 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: the point where now they lead a league in past defense. 626 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: And I would also think the Bush injury affects it too, 627 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: because what I thought he did the best this year 628 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: was covering backs, and I think they've missed that. But 629 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: if you don't blitz as much, you don't miss two 630 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: guys near the back. And you know what I mean, 631 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: it's a way of covering up for that. Yeah, I agree, 632 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: he is Matt Williamson. I'm dal Lali. You're listening to 633 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take 634 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: a break. When we come back, we'll talk a little 635 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: more rust Steelers in Washington football team right after this 636 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: your tunes about drive on Home of the Black and 637 00:33:51,560 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly here 638 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson. And such a relief to have internet access. Yeah. 639 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: Greg Rash is the man man, Yeah, Greg guy of 640 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: course an engineer here for for d V, does the 641 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 1: does the game broadcast as well. Uh, guy that keeps 642 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: everything on the air on game days. Um. So, looking 643 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: at this Washington football team, we looked at their at 644 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: their roster yesterday. Um I haven't seen an injury report 645 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: yet for them, but they haven't played a long time, 646 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: in a long time. They were on they played early Thursday. 647 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: They played one of the early games. There was the 648 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: second game. I think yeah, because Houston played the first one. Right, 649 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: they beat Dallas bad? Right? Is there a is there 650 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: a chance? I don't know what Ron Rivera did with them. 651 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: Did he give him the weekend off? Probably handled like 652 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: the Steelers were going to write, you know what I mean, 653 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: give him a you know, three or four days away. 654 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: Do do you worry about any kind of rush factor 655 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: with that? I think it's a factor, you know, I mean, 656 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: we saw the ravens of Steelers look rusty earlier. Like 657 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: for much of my media career, I've avoided words like 658 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: rust and flat, you know, things like that that I 659 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: think are kind of a shortcut to think. You can 660 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: always be like maybe they got out schemed, or this 661 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: guy's hurt. I mean, it usually more to it I'm flat. 662 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: But this past Stealer game was so bizarre that I 663 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: think that the scheduling certainly impact the way the game 664 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: was played, and the Steelers didn't look like the Steelers. 665 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna keep up, but I do 666 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: think they seem to keep bringing up three games in 667 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: twelve days. It's on their mind and they're definitely gonna 668 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: have a weird prep week, like they're off about that. 669 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: The three games in twelve days thing doesn't really bother 670 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: me as much because other teams do it. It's not 671 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: unheard of. It's actually not as stressful as it sounds 672 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: when you say it just like that, because you had 673 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: a nice break before. And yeah, but the only thing 674 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: they didn't get was the break before because they were 675 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: practicing and then not practicing practicing than not practicing nice. 676 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: I get that part of it. That would be unhappy 677 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,479 Speaker 1: about that too. But you gotta think this whole time, 678 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: while we've done all this nonsense about when the Steeler 679 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: gonna play, at least the Washington coaching staff has been 680 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: watching Stealer tape, right, you know. I mean they've been 681 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: and boy if they watched this last last game stape there, 682 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: like hey, we got a chance yet a chance? Yeah? 683 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean, so it worries me from a Steeler perspective 684 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: that Washington is way more rested, prepared. I don't want 685 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: to say prepared, because that's selling the Steelers coaching staff short. 686 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: But all the all the Washington's team team has been 687 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: doing since sex Giving's focusing on Steelers with steel has 688 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: been doing a lot of other crap. What it looks 689 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: like they were they practiced, well, they had to do 690 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: an injury report for Thursday Friday. Do have that? Um? So, 691 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 1: Ryan Anderson is a defensive end. He was limited on Thursday. 692 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: He was a full participant today. I kind of like 693 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: him coming out of school. But he's buried down because 694 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 1: they've seen you guys, right, he's the Alabama Alabama dude. 695 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: Morgan Moses, who's there the right tackle. Uh, he was 696 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: limited with a groin injury on Thursday. He was a 697 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: full participant today. Well he's got d J Yeah, Deshaun 698 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 1: de Cheser Everett, who's the starting safety above. Uh, he's 699 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: got an ankle. He was a full participant both days. Uh. 700 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: Cornelius Lucas, who's another one of their tackle, he's a 701 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: backup guy, full participant the last two days. Terry McLaurin 702 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: with an ankle. Must have tweaked that yesterday in practice. 703 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: I gotta blurb this morning. Then something happened with him 704 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: because he's not listed on the injury report for yesterday, 705 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: but he is listed for today. I mean, if I 706 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: were them, besides my starting quarterback, he might be the 707 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: last guy I want to get hurt. Agree, I mean, 708 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: Moses will be high as you're playing what But I 709 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: mean we mentioned Moses says that. Moses says his consecutive 710 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: games streak of ninety he's gonna play. He's that guy. 711 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: But McLaurin. Without McLaurin, they're passing. Game is nil. They 712 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: have not in the first segment. Right, He's a really, 713 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: really good player and deserves all the targets he gets. 714 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: But they need to find a compliment to him in 715 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,919 Speaker 1: the off season that they do. And if you look 716 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: at his games this year, uh, he has had at 717 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: least it's pretty consistent, at least sixty one receiving yards 718 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 1: in every game except against the Rams. Wow, that's when 719 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: he got Jalen Regine. That so he had seven targets 720 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: in that game. Uh, three catches for twenty six yards. 721 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: I think Ramsey's best corner the league. But yeah, he's 722 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: really starting to separate himself. But you look at the 723 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: rest of these games. Seven targets, ten targets, eight targets, 724 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: four teen targets, seven targets, twelve targets, eleven targets, eight nine, seven, nine, 725 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: and he's always between seventy and one twenty yards give 726 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: or take um. These past two weeks, they've only threw 727 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: in the ball twenty five and twenty six times and 728 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: he's gotten seven. He's got sixteen targets. That's he's a 729 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: thirty two of the targets the last couple of weeks here, 730 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: So that's a big number. Um, he's deserving. I mean, like, 731 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: I don't think we're ripping on him or it's just 732 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,479 Speaker 1: the state of the football team right now. Is it's 733 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: him and not much else. I mean, if they don't 734 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,959 Speaker 1: go quarterback the first round, it might be Jamaar Chase 735 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: or the best receiver they could find, or a tight end. 736 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: It's a difference maker. And yeah, and he's still he's 737 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: one of these Allen Robinson types that succeeds even though 738 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: every in the world knows that's where the ball is 739 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: going and it's not optimal situations. Yeah, I agree. And 740 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: so you know, he's averaging fourteen yards per touch this 741 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 1: season that leads the NFL. Is it number one? Yeah? Okay, 742 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: he's not a nickel and dimer from me. He ran 743 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: a sub four or four I think at the combine 744 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: and has returned skills and last year average fifteen point 745 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 1: eight yards per catch. I mean, uh and a lot 746 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: of it's catch him, run for him. It is, it is. 747 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: He's a physical guy. Um. Some of our listeners make 748 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: fun of me because of my Claypool special teams love. Well. 749 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: One of the big things with McLaren coming out was 750 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 1: a great great special teams play, special team right, Ganner 751 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: runs you know Ohio State and um, so he brings 752 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: that physical mental he's not. He's a six ft tall receiver, 753 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: but he's twoter and ten pounds. But he's strong and yeah, 754 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: he's a handful to bring down. And yeah they got 755 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: a tackle. So to me, I think you I think 756 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: I like that. You know, if they're if the Steelers 757 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: in that robber defense with mak in the middle of 758 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: the field, you know, ten yards off the line of scrimmage, 759 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna make a just shade the mclaurin's side, 760 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: whichever side he's on. Yeah, they take away that slant. Yeah, 761 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: I don't know that need to even hide it much 762 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: And how much defenses really do force them to go 763 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: somewhere else with football? Yeah, I think Washington and Smith 764 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: and McLaurin all know Hey, coverages are always gonna be 765 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: rolled your away. But you're still far and away the 766 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: best guy. And clearly he's still producing what every game 767 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: but one. It's the real testament to what he's got 768 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: going for. It absolutely is. But you know, again to 769 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: to my point from earlier in the show, if you 770 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: look at their receptions, Uh, he's got sixty nine. Mckisses, 771 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: got got forty six for about but it's for three 772 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: thirty eight yards. Less Logan Thomas, they're tight end has 773 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: thirty four catches but for three eight yards. He's showed 774 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 1: some spurts, but yeah, he's nothing to write home. Gibson 775 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: has thirty nine catches or thirty two catches, but for 776 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty three yards. I think I'm in 777 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: the last two or three weeks. Yeah, Uh, then you know, 778 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: then it's Isaiah wider. Yet Isaiah right has twenty three 779 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: catches for a hundred sixty eight yards. Um. I assume 780 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: he's a little slow receiver. Dontrelle Inman, who I know 781 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: is a little slot receiver eighteen for one sixty three. Um. 782 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: Then you get to you know, Steven Sims sixteen for 783 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: one seventy four. Cam Sims is the deep guy. He's 784 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: got thirteen for two forty five. It's an eighteen point 785 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: eight average. I think they all came in like one game, 786 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: like two weeks ago. I mean, honestly, it's the average 787 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 1: ten point three yards of catch, which is not good. 788 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: It's not good. And that's with that's with McLaurin averaging 789 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: fourteen yards of catch, who's best in the league. Like 790 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: you met, ye take that away from the from these 791 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: other guys and they got you know, that's interesting. Just 792 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 1: tackle the catch. We should do that between the break 793 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: and just take his receiving yards off their total and 794 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: his catches and just see what the all the other 795 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 1: Washington guys are yard for catch, you know, I mean, 796 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: because if he's a fourteen and leading the league and 797 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: they're low at ten as a team, they must be 798 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: like seven like everybody else. Then to your point, I mean, 799 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: those two were running backs. Mckissic and uh Gibson are 800 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: good receivers. They're receiving backs, well, especially mckissics only are 801 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: receiving back. He's there, Chris Thompson type, Okay, here it is, 802 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 1: I got it for you. Good. The average eight point 803 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: five yards of catch that aren't named anybody who's not 804 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,439 Speaker 1: named McLaurin averaging eight point five yards to catch. That's 805 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: super low. That's like I've never seen one that low, right, right, 806 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's receivers and running backs and tight ends combined. 807 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 1: But everybody besides McLaurin. Wow, yeah, I mean that's that. 808 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: They're like four receivers in there too. Like this is 809 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: a guy who's averaging eight teen point eight yards of catch. 810 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: Take him out of the equation, what right? Right? Yeah, 811 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: that's the problem. I mean that's something they need to 812 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: address for sure. This offset. They've also got eleven touchdown passes. 813 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: So if you bog down their running game again, I'm 814 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 1: I'm playing a lot of short zones and if they try, 815 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: I don't think Alex Smith will try to push the 816 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: ball down. If I don't think he'll be an intermediate thrower. 817 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean the digs and the deep crossers and things 818 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 1: like that. I mean the comebacks that's not his bag, 819 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 1: the arm strength throws. I mean, I'm sure they'll take shots, 820 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, like everybody takes shots. I'm sure they'll play 821 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: action max protect, throw a bomb the McLaurin or or 822 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: Sims and if you hit it great, but he's not 823 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: gonna he's not gonna beat you up in that twelve 824 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: the twenty. That's the thing. He may just twelve checked 825 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: out dump its because they're completely i mean, their quarterbacks 826 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: this year completing sixty nine of their passes, which is 827 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: what you would expect because everything's a dump off. And 828 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure Haskins didn't help. He's um, Actually, there's sixty 829 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: six point one. I don't know what that can that 830 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,879 Speaker 1: much have been. Their catch rate is sixty nine point 831 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: three percent. I don't know how it could be. The 832 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: catch rate could be higher than the unless there's some 833 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 1: throwaways in there. M yeah, they don't count. But they're 834 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: completing sixty six point one of their passes, which you 835 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: should be when you're you know, wouldn't it that low? Yeah, 836 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: I mean you're I did a fun little exercise in 837 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 1: the offseason. I just took average depth of target times 838 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,439 Speaker 1: completion percentage, and I think it's just an idea of 839 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, like Jamis Winston was really good in that 840 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: metric because he tried a lot of hard throws. He 841 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: threw a lot of pace, Yeah, threw a lot of 842 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: I mean, like the Saints guys are really low in 843 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: that one, like Breeze has a great completion percentage, and 844 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: even Bridgewater is a saint. But if you multiply the two, 845 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: it's like that's not that you know, right, I mean 846 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: Alex Smith's aree yards per attempt is five point eight yards. 847 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: It's really low, really low, and it comes out quick 848 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: and he doesn't take the chances and right, yeah, that's 849 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: and he's still throwing five interceptions. Yeah, I didn't realized 850 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,439 Speaker 1: it was that many. How many games has he played 851 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: so far? He's played, He's appeared in five. He started three, Okay, 852 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: I remember the one he came off the bench and 853 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: kept the job, and the other one I don't think 854 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: he played much. And he had three D sixty year 855 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: three in ninety yards in one game against the Lions. 856 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: And he's got no interceptions. Yeah, he's got one thousand, 857 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: sixty seven yards in his five games. Okay, so a 858 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: third of that came in more than a third of 859 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: it came in one game. And he you know, he's 860 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 1: just is over underpassing yards on Monday. Well, he's averaging 861 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: two yards passing per game this year. Yeah, I think 862 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 1: it's going under two. Yes, against this defense. I mean 863 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,720 Speaker 1: he's had to under two hundred to last two weeks. 864 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: I mean, if the garbage time thing would would give 865 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: me some hesitation, just because the Steelers might be winning big. 866 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: He's also been sacked fifteen times and it comes out 867 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: quick right both sides. He hasn't got out the way. Well, no, 868 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: he can't move anymore. No, he can't anyways. Let's take 869 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: a break. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollly. You 870 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: were listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. 871 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,760 Speaker 1: When we come back, it'll be time for the Fantasy 872 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: Football Focus. We'll get to that right after this. He's 873 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on Home 874 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: of the Black and Goals Steelers Nation. Rady, welcome back. 875 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Welly here with Matt Williamson's time for the 876 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Focus. We'll go through all the games. It 877 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: seems weird to be doing this two days after the 878 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: Steelers played, and there's two Monday nighters to Sunday nighters. 879 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: There's still two teams on by there's a Tuesday game. 880 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. There's a two Monday nighters and 881 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: a Tuesday night and the Sunday night game, and there 882 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 1: was no Thursday game. Other with other nights, this week's 883 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,760 Speaker 1: just perfect, still normal, so you have nothing to recap 884 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: Sunday stuff. So first game on the schedule here is 885 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: Saints at Falcons. The over under is forty five, which 886 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: these days is are really low over under. Right, you 887 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: think about these teams and you think it's gonna be 888 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: thirty to forty. Both these defenses are pretty darned good. 889 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,959 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill at seventy eight yards passing against Denver last weekend. 890 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: He gets sacked three times. Atlanta's D is not bad 891 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: and the Saints D is really good. I don't think 892 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: Julio is playing. Riddley's banged up, but probably will go. 893 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: You know, we were talking about Umara. Of course he's started, 894 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 1: like the Falcons in this game. I think they got 895 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,479 Speaker 1: a shot. I wish july I was playing, but they 896 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: got a shot. We'll see, maybe he gets back out there, 897 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 1: but um you know, I I just have a feeling 898 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: about this when the Falcons are that's a big rivalry game. 899 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: There's two teams hate each other. People don't think about 900 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 1: it up here in the North, but that's one of 901 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: the bigger rivalry games in the league. Yeah, it wouldn't 902 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: surprise me if the Falcons won that football game. Now 903 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,879 Speaker 1: they're playing quite well and that over under forty five. 904 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't know who are you playing in that game? 905 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,879 Speaker 1: Like you're gonna the last time Ryan was awful against them. 906 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: They couldn't they couldn't block him. And if Gurley doesn't score, 907 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,439 Speaker 1: he's useless and he's questionable. He's questionable. Ye, Ridley could 908 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 1: be a heavy targeted dude and obviously always preem in 909 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: your line. And I assume Tomas it's Thomas a wide 910 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: receiver too. Yeah, I can't have PMP one with that. 911 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: You know he's gonna get eight targets. Maybe a sneaky 912 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: guy on that team lately has been Murray. Yeah, I 913 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,879 Speaker 1: don't know that I keep that keeps up though. Yeah, 914 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: that's a bit hard to trust, you know. This week? 915 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 1: What about Hayden Hurst. He's probably a top twelve tight end. 916 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 1: Think you're not excited about it? And I don't know, 917 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: then start I'd start him over Cook. Cook doesn't hardly 918 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: do anything. I mean if he talked about how Kamara 919 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: doesn't get the ball thrown to him. Um, yeah, No, 920 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,919 Speaker 1: Cook's unusable lately. I would fade a lot of guys 921 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 1: in that game. I would I would start both defenses. Yeah, 922 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: and that against those teams. On the other side of 923 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: the coin. On the other side of the spectrum is 924 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 1: Brown's at Titan. See. I think this is an over. 925 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: This isn't is the over unders fifty three and a half, 926 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 1: which shocks people, but I still think it goes over. Yeah, 927 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: these defenses aren't very good. I want Henry in the lineup. 928 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: I want both Brown's running backs in the lineup. Yes, 929 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,839 Speaker 1: um A J. Brown A J. Brown. Cannon Hill isn't bad. Yeah, 930 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: I almost stat I almost put him as my DFS 931 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: stack this week with you. Yeah. Uh, then I moved 932 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: away from I went with Aaron Rodgers instead. I'm not sure. 933 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 1: I'm excited about Baker, but I think Baker won't be 934 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: under a lot of pressure. No, they don't rush. The 935 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: pass defenses are very vulnerable, and I think there'll be 936 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: a lot of big plays like Chubb and Henry and 937 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 1: the Browns when they've played a good team of just 938 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 1: hemorrhage points. Oh. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, here's a sneaky start 939 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 1: for you out of this game. Doesn't look like Jonny 940 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: Smith's gonna play start Ferkser. Yeah, that's not bad. That's 941 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: not bad, especially in today's tight end world. Ferkser's Foker 942 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: could get six or seven catches that game. Browns the Browns, Yeah, 943 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: the Browns linebackers can't cover anybody. Ward might be out 944 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: to Yeah, yeah, there will be a lot of points. 945 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 1: It canna be a lot of points. Uh. Colts at 946 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 1: Texans the over under his fifty sad. I love the 947 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: way Watson's playing, but I think the losing Fuller hurts them. 948 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,320 Speaker 1: This game might go under, It might go under. I 949 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: would think the Colts keep everything in front of him. 950 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 1: They probably won't run well. Cookes will get a lot 951 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 1: of targets. Yeah, he's gonna have his handsful, and they won't. 952 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: They don't follow. So you get Xavier Rhodes whole time, 953 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 1: So you get you get some rock of sin in there, 954 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: and he's been you know, not great. Um. I mean 955 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: you start watching, you start Cooks. But that's probably it 956 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: on that side of the ball. David Johnson could come 957 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: back this week. I'm not interested. I'm not interested in 958 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:45,760 Speaker 1: starting him, but certainly, yeah, he can't start. Duke Jonathan 959 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: Taylor if he's gonna break open, he's gonna break out. 960 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 1: This is the game. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, Um 961 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 1: what about Pittman? Yes, no Roby for them? Yeah. Second, 962 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking myself into an over here on this. But 963 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 1: with the Colts, but they're gonna want to run, they'll 964 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,879 Speaker 1: just run the ball. If they can't, I would think 965 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 1: even Hines will probably catch six balls. Yeah. Uh, Anthony 966 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: Costanzo out who miss this game with the knee, and 967 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: they don't risk fast her that well. Yeah, and if 968 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: anyone think about Rivers, I can understand it. But they've 969 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 1: really used Brissette as their goal lineback, which takes away 970 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: that would really be a thing. That's the other thing 971 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: about Taylor, Like are they going to do that and 972 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 1: you know take a touchdown off? Or did they do 973 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: it because he was out or right? That's what you 974 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: don't know. Somebody's rookie running backs was still hard. Yeah. 975 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars and Vikings. He over under his fifty and a half. 976 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: I think the Vikes go bonkers, like I would lean 977 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: towards Cousins. The two receivers don't mind starting the Jaguars 978 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 1: in this game either, because Minnesota's defense has not been great. 979 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: You can make fun of Glennon, but he's an NFL quarterback. 980 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 1: You know, if I think they'll get to twenty, so 981 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna score, probably, I mean, you always start Robinson. 982 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: I think Chark has a good week. I think there's 983 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: more points than this. One of people realize. I think 984 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 1: that one's gonna be an up and down the game, 985 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 1: up and down the field game. Uh, start them all. Yeah, 986 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,359 Speaker 1: I agree. Bengals at Dolphins. The over under is forty 987 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 1: two and a half. I don't think the I don't 988 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 1: know how they score. Yeah, I don't know how they 989 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 1: score unless they get another kick return. That's the only reason. 990 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: That's the only reason that game last week was even close. 991 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 1: Against the Giants, they average three yards of play. Yeah. Really, 992 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: they're awful, and the Dolphins have a good defense. They 993 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 1: really good defense. Parker, I'm playing fits. I'm playing. They're 994 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,360 Speaker 1: running back situations is very unclear, but they always feature 995 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 1: one guy. Ackman is doubtful. N I think gask has 996 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: got to come back because the other two guys are doubtful. 997 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 1: Breeda just went on, Uh, they don't like him anyway, 998 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: but he just went on COVID today. Yeah, Washington is 999 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: doubtful as well, So I think I think they got 1000 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: to bring gasking back and play him. The problem that 1001 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: could start the problem with him is he unscore touchdowns, 1002 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,880 Speaker 1: but the bad defense, that's only there's a lot of 1003 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 1: points period. I think Baltimore or Miami wins that game. 1004 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: I love gets sicky in this game. That's a good one. 1005 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,439 Speaker 1: They give up the most passing yards to tight ends 1006 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: in the league. It's like sixty two yards of game 1007 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 1: got started over Hayden Hurst and we talked about Yeah, yeah, 1008 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 1: I think he's he might be a top five start 1009 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: this week at a tight end position. I mean, because 1010 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 1: they they're looking for others, they're gonna have to throw 1011 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 1: the football. If Gaskins is the running back they don't have. 1012 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 1: They don't have a goal lineback, so you throw it, 1013 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 1: throw it up to the big guy. There's still a 1014 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: chance to a start, which would make No. I don't 1015 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,800 Speaker 1: think that's gonna happens. Yeah, I think it is too 1016 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 1: Lions and Bears. He over runners forty four and a half. 1017 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,280 Speaker 1: No Golliday, Alan Robinson got hurt today and left practice. 1018 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: That was the only guy in the Bears. I was 1019 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 1: excited about what I want Montgomery in this game. Yeah, 1020 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a nice a nice game. 1021 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm kind of more and more of a believer in 1022 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 1: when you fire a head coach that everybody hates, like 1023 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,439 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien or Patricia, you usually get a good game 1024 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: or two from the team and they're a little more rejuvenated. 1025 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 1: Like I think Detroit could win this game. But I'm 1026 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 1: sure wish it was Goliday. I mean, I'm I'm starting Hawkins, 1027 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,800 Speaker 1: and I wish I knew if Swift was playing. Swift 1028 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,319 Speaker 1: is not playing. He didn't he didn't practice, so you 1029 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,800 Speaker 1: might not have Swift. You definitely don't Swift or go Holiday. 1030 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: Maybe not Robinson starting carry On Johnson. Yeah, he's been 1031 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: borderline RB two. Yeah, I mean they dump it to 1032 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: him and the problem is he doesn't score the touchdowns 1033 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: because they trot out the old Man and the Bears 1034 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,479 Speaker 1: were a good defense. Yeah, they'll be on the field 1035 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 1: a lot um Raiders and Jets. The over runners forty seven. 1036 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 1: Raiders got embarrassed last week. I bet they don't get 1037 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 1: embarrassed this week. In fact, Jacobs, no, Jacob, Yeah, this 1038 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: is when we talked about earlier in the week. So 1039 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 1: for book Yeah, Booker is the guy. UM, get him 1040 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 1: in your line up now. In fact, already have him 1041 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,839 Speaker 1: in my DFS lineup. I think he was like which 1042 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 1: is which is a nice price for starting running back 1043 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 1: against the Jet? Yeah? Absolutely, um Waller, you always do. 1044 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 1: But he's a little worrisome. Yeah, it hasn't been great. 1045 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 1: They could shut it down. They can shut the passing 1046 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 1: and get up early and cars okay, uh agilars okay. 1047 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah if he's playing. He was on the injury report too. Yeah, 1048 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,320 Speaker 1: so be careful with that one. But it's sneakily starting 1049 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: a jet. Crowder is not startable anymore. He was the one. 1050 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 1: He was the guy. The other the other. I think 1051 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 1: the other two receivers are better, imperm better players in crowd. 1052 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 1: But I don't know if I I mean maybe in 1053 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 1: this game against that remember eight or secondary bad. I 1054 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,320 Speaker 1: heard a stat on the way here on a podcast 1055 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 1: Frank Gore last week had twenty touches on early downs. 1056 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 1: The first or second down was last week, Like about 1057 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: coaching mout practice. You're trying to build something there and 1058 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: the Yeah, I mean he gets the ball. As my point, Yeah, 1059 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 1: it's the smelly start, but it's he's like he's like 1060 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 1: eating two pounds of popcorn. It's just empty candy. Nothing, Yeah, 1061 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 1: getting nothing out of it. Um, do you start the 1062 00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: Raiders defense? I know it's a great, great start. They 1063 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: don't get a lot of sacks. It's Max Crosby and 1064 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,279 Speaker 1: nobody else. I think the defense is bad, But I 1065 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:08,839 Speaker 1: gotta say I was looking at one of my leagues 1066 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 1: at the stream defenses. There's not many great options, so 1067 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,319 Speaker 1: maybe that's as good as you can do. You know, 1068 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,359 Speaker 1: a lot of the obvious ones are picked up, and 1069 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: if you're streaming him, it's probably not so bad. Rams 1070 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 1: at Cardinals of Runners, Kyler is not right right now 1071 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: with that shoulder, but doesn't mean he won't be this week. 1072 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna get healthy. It's a down week 1073 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 1: I think for Hopkins, but of course you start him. 1074 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: But Drake has been the benefactor. Yeah, I mean he's 1075 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,959 Speaker 1: getting all the goal line touches he's and they throwed 1076 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: him now because Kyler's him running in right right. So 1077 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 1: I think Drake's a starter. I think Edmonds is even 1078 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: a flex too. And I saw something today where Kingsbury said, uh, 1079 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 1: the Rams said that they won't have um Ramsey travel. Yeah, 1080 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 1: but so he he won't move with it. He won't 1081 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: move with Hopkins um, which kind of makes some sense 1082 00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: because they do throw the ball, you know, the Kirkle 1083 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: catch the deep balls and things that I don't have 1084 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 1: a problem with that. I still better think he ends 1085 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 1: up on Hopkins a lot. Probably, although if the if 1086 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: the Rams are the Cardinals are smart, if Kingsbury knows 1087 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 1: what he's doing, you skiming like, Okay, you're gonna leave 1088 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 1: him over there when we're gonna have Hopkins line up 1089 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 1: over here all the time, I would avoid him as 1090 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: much as possible. You know, that's your best guy, Rams. 1091 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 1: I think I'm starting the tight ends aren't usuable anymore. 1092 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 1: They've canceled each other out. I don't know I can 1093 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 1: start running back either. I can't. Yeah, I'm not ready 1094 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 1: to jump off that, not even as I don't like 1095 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 1: any of it, because they all steal from each other. 1096 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: They steal from each other. Woods and Copper good starts. Yeah, 1097 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 1: that's a that's Peters is not scary anymore. No, he's 1098 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 1: not at all, not at all. Uh Giants at Seahawks 1099 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: he over run there's forty seven and a half. No, 1100 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones Ingrams may only giant I'm starting? Would you 1101 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 1: would you stream the Giants defense against the Seahawks, knowing 1102 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: that they don't ask block well and Wilson w takes 1103 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,439 Speaker 1: some sacks, that's a good deed. Yeah, I think they'll 1104 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 1: get the thirty. Yeah, I mean I'd go to the 1105 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: ball all game. I know in Seattle, not that that's 1106 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 1: a big deal anymore, but no, the Raiders d over 1107 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,560 Speaker 1: the Giants. Do you even though the Giants this could 1108 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 1: end up being a locket game of of as opposed 1109 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 1: to Metcalf. Bradbury will be on Metcalf and he could 1110 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 1: be just be lock it. Um. What's interesting though, is 1111 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 1: both Carson and Hyde played last week, and Hyde was 1112 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: the guy. I wonder if that was just because Carson 1113 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 1: was still coming back from the injury. Tend to think so, yeah, 1114 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 1: but it makes you a little less confident. But I'm 1115 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 1: starting Carson, Yeah, yeah, just to start him as like 1116 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 1: an RB two. They don't expect him to have the 1117 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 1: RB one production that he was having earlier, and he's 1118 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 1: better than Hide. I think we all have that. Yeah. Um, 1119 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: do you start Seattle's defense against Colt McCoy? Is that 1120 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 1: a streamer. They don't sack the quarterback particularly well. But 1121 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 1: they don't. But they've been playing a lot better on D. 1122 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean it's not respectable. D. Maybe Adams gets a 1123 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 1: sack or cool McCoy can't throw either. Yeah, he stinks. Yeah. Um, 1124 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: Eagles at Packers the over runners forty seven and a half. 1125 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 1: The Packers are easy. I mean it's three guys and 1126 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: you start them all. He's starting Jamal Williams or Lazard 1127 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 1: or I might I might Tanyan is not a bed 1128 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: streaming option because the Eagles, Uh, their linebackers stink. They're 1129 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 1: one of the worst past defenses against tight ends in 1130 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 1: the league. Green Bay is always gonna have the ball. Yeah. 1131 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 1: And if you have to figure that, Slay will travel 1132 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 1: with with Adams. Not that I mean they've done that. 1133 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: They've done that a lot. I mean he's in Detroit, 1134 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,439 Speaker 1: so he's not gonna surprise him. But Adams is still Adams. Yeah, 1135 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 1: DK ate him out. Yeah, Um, what about the Eagles. 1136 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders really frustrates me. Miles Sander. I I almost 1137 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 1: went with Miles Sanders this week because of the Packers 1138 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 1: run defense, and then I remembered, Hey, dummy, Yeah, you 1139 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 1: watched that game last week and you texted Matt and said, 1140 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 1: why aren't they running Miles Sanderson right or jumping to 1141 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 1: him when he's open. Boston Scott had as many touches 1142 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,440 Speaker 1: in that game as Miles Sanders. I think Sanders has 1143 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of Kamara in him and that he's 1144 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 1: not a super high touch guy. But man, I mean 1145 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: that offense is struggling so bad. Why wouldn't you were 1146 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: in that game? Vocal point. You're down one score and 1147 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: you're not You're not using Miles Sanders at all. You're 1148 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 1: doesn't dumping the ball off the Boston Scott. You're having 1149 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: Boston Scott run draws. And that's just again coaching male practice. 1150 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 1: That's bad. Peters is not doing a good job, and 1151 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 1: everyone blames Wins, but it's deeper than that. They also 1152 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 1: are missing four offensive one. I guess you start Gardard, Yes, 1153 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 1: ear might return. I don't care. Yeah, um Gregor, yeah 1154 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 1: you can do a lot better. Yeah, yeah, I gotta 1155 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 1: see something first, right anything offense? Uh? Patriots at Chargers, 1156 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,920 Speaker 1: he over under his forty seven and a half. I 1157 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 1: like Harris a lot in that one. Yeah, yeah, I 1158 01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: think again will be close. I think I actually think 1159 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots win because they win. Well, Cam's questionable for 1160 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: this game. I expect him to play. I much stream 1161 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 1: both of these defenses. It's not bad because I think 1162 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 1: I think Belichick will scheme some things up to confuse 1163 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 1: Herbert a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, he kills the young quarters. Yeah. Uh. 1164 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 1: And I think the Chargers will The Patriots just don't. 1165 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 1: They're not an up and down the field kind of team. 1166 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,480 Speaker 1: Any defense against the Charge, So this game's you know, 1167 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 1: seventeen or something like that. Yeah. The problem with playing 1168 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 1: against the Patriots is both probably won't have a lot 1169 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 1: of sacks. You know, like they're not gonna throw a lot. 1170 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 1: They don't put the ball in Harm's way as much 1171 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: as you'd like. But that's all right. Yeah, um, is 1172 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 1: James White usable? I guess I think it's pretty clear 1173 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: it's a two headed backfield now. I mean they've used 1174 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 1: them as a flex yeah, but yeah, I mean, if 1175 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna use they'll be out there every third down. 1176 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 1: If you're gonna use Harris, you can probably then use. 1177 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 1: They're kind of the same. Yeah, they're total opposites, but 1178 01:02:53,680 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 1: they're kind of the same. Hunter Henry Well is okay. Yeah, 1179 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,160 Speaker 1: I think so. I don't know that piece of that 1180 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 1: that pie is big enough to feed all them though. Yeah, 1181 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 1: now especially now that can are back. But it's tough. 1182 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 1: I he almost needs to catch a long one for you, 1183 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 1: but he can. Yeah, Broncos in Chiefs the overrunners fifty one. 1184 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 1: I think the Broncos are sneaky starts there, you know, 1185 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 1: like locks, like this year's version of Blake Portles garbage 1186 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 1: kind guy, you know. I mean, he's got weapons, he's 1187 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 1: an aggressive thrower. They're losing Layton games, so I think 1188 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 1: he'll throw, he'll put up numbers, and the whole passing 1189 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 1: game will I don't think Lindsay's playing and Gordon has 1190 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 1: been anything but great. But if he's the only back there, 1191 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: then then he's gonna get touches. Yeah. The run defense 1192 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 1: is terrible. I mean early in the game, they'll they're 1193 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 1: gonna have to try to keep this chief defense. I 1194 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 1: think you start. Yeah, I would think they have Lock 1195 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 1: will throw a couple to the other team. It's a 1196 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 1: good point. Yeah, that's a good start. Um, I can't 1197 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 1: start the Denver d although I respect them. Yeah, I 1198 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 1: mean I think they'll give him homes some problems, but 1199 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 1: they'll figure it out. He'll figure out and you're starting 1200 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 1: the course. Well that's this is the game now, running 1201 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 1: back conversation we're having off the air. Clyde Edwards Hilaire 1202 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,800 Speaker 1: has missed the last two days of practice with an illness. 1203 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 1: I don't expect him to play, especially as a rookie. 1204 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 1: As a rookie established you've got Levi on Bell there. 1205 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 1: If you're them, you can say, well, you know what, 1206 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,919 Speaker 1: why don't we give Edwards Hilaire the week off. He's 1207 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,800 Speaker 1: a rookie, He's carried a reasonably heavy workload for us 1208 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 1: this year. We got Bell here, let's see what we 1209 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,200 Speaker 1: got in Lean Williams can play. Yeah, this could be 1210 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 1: a game where I think Levi on Bell is fifteen 1211 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,360 Speaker 1: touches Bell I think is a good start. Yeah, he 1212 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 1: looks fine. He doesn't look like he'll catch the ball. Yeah, 1213 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 1: I mean he's he's fine. Now, Yeah, I mean he'll 1214 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 1: he'll finish that game with I don't know, twelve carries 1215 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 1: for fifty yards and then three or four catches for 1216 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 1: another over on those numbers and get to get the 1217 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 1: touchdowns a goal line plunge. But he ends up with 1218 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 1: over a hundred combine yards. If Edwards Layer doesn't play, 1219 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 1: he still capable of doing. Yeah, so especially when you 1220 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 1: have to play the past against these guys. That's the thing. 1221 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know when I start, I texted you this. 1222 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 1: We'll talk about this in the next segment about the 1223 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:17,360 Speaker 1: the offensive line ranking stuff run ranking. Um, Yeah, I 1224 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 1: think that's that's solid. Washington Pittsburgh. UM. Kind of expect 1225 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 1: a low scoring game in this, but not not like 1226 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 1: the over runners forty two. I think it's I think 1227 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:30,959 Speaker 1: it's teetering on the edge of being over that. Both 1228 01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:35,200 Speaker 1: these both defenses you start because you have to rush 1229 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 1: the past. Yeah, they both rushed the pass where the 1230 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 1: Steelers haven't given up a sack and a hundred nine 1231 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 1: pass attempts. I brought that up to bend today. Wasn't 1232 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:48,920 Speaker 1: happy about that. Oh this week though, probably Uh, but 1233 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 1: both of these past defenses are good. Um. We even't 1234 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 1: talked about it much, but they do a really good 1235 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 1: job against slot receivers. I mean, Juju is still very startable, 1236 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 1: but might not be his best day. I have such 1237 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 1: faith in Deonte. I think he comes back in a 1238 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 1: huge way, and I think they got a little embarrassed 1239 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 1: the last time. And here's what you can hit the 1240 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 1: long ball and these guys too, here's one to uh 1241 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,920 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. The Washington has allowed six 1242 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 1: catches this year of fifty plus yards. Chase clay must start. 1243 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 1: Claypool is gonna get some shots. Yeah, they're gonna take 1244 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 1: your shots. I'm starting Claypool over Juju. Yes, yeah, I 1245 01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 1: think he's their number one start this week. I think 1246 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 1: height ends of a car with these guys up to Yeah, 1247 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 1: they've had some they've had some success there too as well. 1248 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 1: So Ebrons also in the in the mix. The only 1249 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:37,000 Speaker 1: football teamers I'm starting or Gibson and McLaurin. That's it. Yeah, 1250 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,600 Speaker 1: that's it. That's every week. That's every week. Bills and 1251 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:45,280 Speaker 1: forty nine over under his forty seven. Um, the Bills 1252 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 1: are pretty straightforward. You're gonna start. Yeah, but no, John 1253 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 1: Brown means they're a lesser they're a lesser offense than 1254 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,040 Speaker 1: what they are. And that's a big he's on I R. 1255 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 1: He won't play against the Steelers and people are looking 1256 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 1: at that Steeler game. That's a huge deal. We'll talk 1257 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 1: about that more next week. Um, you're gonna start those 1258 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 1: you guys. I don't know that I start any of 1259 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 1: the guys in the backfield. I think it's Allen and Diggs. Yeah, 1260 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 1: I think Allan and Diggs maybe their defense, maybe they 1261 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,520 Speaker 1: the defense, but I think they'll get run on. Yeah, 1262 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 1: I do as well. That game, by the way, I 1263 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,400 Speaker 1: do as well. I think San fran wins as far 1264 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 1: as San Francisco. Um most Are, it's the guy most Are. 1265 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 1: It's the guys. You're gonna start him. You're gonna start 1266 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. Yes, I think his average after the parity 1267 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 1: was like two yards last week. That's fine, he's right 1268 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,120 Speaker 1: after the catch it's twelve yards per Yeah, but I 1269 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 1: think that's it. Yeah, I might be back. I would 1270 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 1: think about it, but I want to see it. Yeah. 1271 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:38,120 Speaker 1: I think it's most dire and and then finally Cowboys 1272 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,640 Speaker 1: and Ravens over under all, there's no spread on this game. 1273 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,280 Speaker 1: There's no over runner. Because we don't know what's happening 1274 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. We'll talk about we buys. Wildn't even 1275 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,440 Speaker 1: bring it up. Yeah, I mean, tough road for the 1276 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,000 Speaker 1: Dallas offense. Yeah, but I mean I don't think it's 1277 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a great we don't know. I mean, the 1278 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 1: the Ravens are getting some of their guys back. I 1279 01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,640 Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna get everybody back in time 1280 01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,400 Speaker 1: for this game. I don't know, like clay As Campbell, 1281 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,439 Speaker 1: guys of that nature. Dobbins is intriguing. Yeah, and I'm 1282 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 1: not sure that you're gonna start Zeke. You're gonna, yeah, 1283 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: Marcus Brown has been in your doghouse all week and 1284 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm watch her. One plays enough to get him out. 1285 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 1: It is not, It is not, But that's gonna do 1286 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 1: it for the Fantasy Football Focus. He is Matt Williamson. 1287 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. We'll take a break. Come back right 1288 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 1: after this your tunes about Drive Home of the Black 1289 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:49,600 Speaker 1: and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale with 1290 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,680 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Mettu. I texted you a couple of 1291 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,200 Speaker 1: weeks ago about this man. I forgot to bring it 1292 01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,479 Speaker 1: up on the show, and so I can't remember who 1293 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,720 Speaker 1: it was. Put out a ranking of the top ten 1294 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:04,320 Speaker 1: unblocking lines in the NFL a few weeks ago, and 1295 01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,759 Speaker 1: they had like, I think Kansas City was ranked second 1296 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,640 Speaker 1: in that list. Uh, And I was looking at the 1297 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,320 Speaker 1: list and I'm like you know Cleveland was on there. Okay, 1298 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 1: I did that, um tennis, Yeah, some of those. But 1299 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:21,360 Speaker 1: then there was like Arizona, yeah, Kansas City. Those aren't 1300 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:26,440 Speaker 1: good run blocking lines. They're just not seeing boxes. Yeah. 1301 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,519 Speaker 1: Or running quarterback helps when you have Kyler or Lamar, Yeah, 1302 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,719 Speaker 1: that helps you run numbers a lot. Even Mahomes helps 1303 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,599 Speaker 1: that out with Kansas City a little bit. Oh yeah, 1304 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:40,519 Speaker 1: well they never stack boxes, right. Yeah. So you know, 1305 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you know, the numbers here on Pro 1306 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:47,720 Speaker 1: Football or Football ciders, and they had the Steelers with 1307 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,720 Speaker 1: the number one pass blocking line in the league. I 1308 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 1: think that's legit. The ten sacks all year, it's number one, 1309 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,639 Speaker 1: doesn't get hit. Yeah. Um, that'd be a hard metric 1310 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,599 Speaker 1: to create that. It's just a thing. Yeah. I mean 1311 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,960 Speaker 1: you start looking at the offensive lines. They have the 1312 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,200 Speaker 1: Steelers twenty eight and adjusted line yards because of the 1313 01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:11,479 Speaker 1: of the running issues. But I don't know how many 1314 01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,840 Speaker 1: of those running it like they're they're twenty second and 1315 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:20,160 Speaker 1: running back yards. Uh power success rate there twenty That's 1316 01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,920 Speaker 1: actually a cool metric. That's like short yardage stuff. Can 1317 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,960 Speaker 1: you get the yard when you need it? Like, Okay, 1318 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 1: that's that adds up. I may I have no problem 1319 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:31,240 Speaker 1: open field yards their tenth m. I guess that's getting 1320 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 1: your back into the open field. I think it's getting 1321 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,559 Speaker 1: him in past x amount of yards at the line 1322 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 1: of scrimmage or something second level yards four stuffed, right, 1323 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,599 Speaker 1: that's how many negative plays? Which thirteenth I mean you're 1324 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 1: above average, right, that's not I don't think that's the problem. 1325 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,599 Speaker 1: And then number one in in adjusted you know it's 1326 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 1: adjusted sack, right, that's the you know you can have 1327 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,519 Speaker 1: you know that whatever you may think about. Well, yeah, 1328 01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,439 Speaker 1: they they lead the league. They I think it's them 1329 01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 1: in the Colts are tied for the league lead and 1330 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,400 Speaker 1: a few sacks, but they lead the league and as 1331 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,879 Speaker 1: just as sack rate, which is I'm not sure exactly 1332 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 1: how they figure that, but I used to know, and 1333 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,720 Speaker 1: it's it's a good metric, it's a good way of 1334 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 1: doing it. So over overall, I'm looking at that line, 1335 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm going, Okay, they're not. I mean some of those things, 1336 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,479 Speaker 1: like some of the some of that stuff is running 1337 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,840 Speaker 1: back related as well, without question, um, some of it 1338 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:24,360 Speaker 1: is peripheral blocker related. Yeah, it's not just the offensive line. 1339 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,839 Speaker 1: Is this guy sealing the edge or is he allowing 1340 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 1: as we saw against the Baltimore the other day, is 1341 01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 1: somebody coming in on touch and getting the backfield, getting 1342 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,559 Speaker 1: in the back in the backfield. The line did its job, 1343 01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:41,559 Speaker 1: but somebody came off the edge. And yes, like I'm 1344 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,679 Speaker 1: not saying it's all on the backs, but let's say 1345 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 1: hypothetically they go into next year with the same line, 1346 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,200 Speaker 1: they use the thirty second pick in the draft on 1347 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,280 Speaker 1: Travis eight, the end out of Clemston, take the best 1348 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,200 Speaker 1: back in the draft and steer fans be like, but 1349 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 1: they can't run the boy anyways, they can't block it him. Like, yeah, 1350 01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook behind this line, to put the Chubb behind 1351 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 1: this line, I think it's pretty good. Absolutely, look a 1352 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,439 Speaker 1: lot better than it does right now. Yes, And I 1353 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,000 Speaker 1: really thought that the running backs didn't get enough heat 1354 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,880 Speaker 1: for last year's problems pass blocking make the yards on 1355 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 1: their own, and a lot of the last year was 1356 01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 1: there's no fear of the passing game. But how do 1357 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:24,160 Speaker 1: you think people play against Henry and Chubb and Cook 1358 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,000 Speaker 1: and you know right, I mean, how say Kwan's whole 1359 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 1: career is gone and they still put up numbers. They 1360 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,760 Speaker 1: still put up the numbers because they're great backs. They 1361 01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,800 Speaker 1: can make that guy miss, yes, and then if you 1362 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 1: give him a crease, I mean the eight man boxes 1363 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,680 Speaker 1: mean I get behind you guys quicker, and there's don't 1364 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,640 Speaker 1: want to catch me down like Steelers don't have that 1365 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,880 Speaker 1: when it is blocked up correctly, that that ten that 1366 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,160 Speaker 1: ten yard game that the Steelers backs are getting turns 1367 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,000 Speaker 1: into a fifty yard exactly exactly. So Bell got a 1368 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,439 Speaker 1: lot of attention to right. He still got his yards yards. 1369 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,360 Speaker 1: It's not all on the backs, but I do think 1370 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,639 Speaker 1: the back room it's all part of it. It's certainly, 1371 01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,679 Speaker 1: it's all part of the equation. Equation. Yeah, uh, time 1372 01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,439 Speaker 1: for us to make our picks in this game. UM, 1373 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:08,000 Speaker 1: I got the Steelers winning this. UM. I think it's 1374 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a reasonably close game because of both defenses. 1375 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,000 Speaker 1: But the Steelers are the more talented team. I'm similar, 1376 01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 1: I had so seven point difference. UM. I think that 1377 01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,800 Speaker 1: these d lines will be a handful. The rest that 1378 01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,519 Speaker 1: the Washington has I think is in their favor, but 1379 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,320 Speaker 1: they're not as good. I don't I don't expect. The 1380 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:36,160 Speaker 1: Steelers got embarrassed the other night. Even though they won 1381 01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,519 Speaker 1: the game, they were still embarrassed. After that game, and 1382 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,479 Speaker 1: you've you've heard the the anger and frustration in their 1383 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:45,240 Speaker 1: voices and when Yeah, nobody was happy with that perform 1384 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,240 Speaker 1: They will not put up a performance like that. Again, 1385 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,519 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean this is going to be an easy win. Um, 1386 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, this Washington team has played some teams tough. 1387 01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking here, Uh you know they lost to the 1388 01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,680 Speaker 1: Ravens when the Ravens were actually playing well seventeen that 1389 01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 1: was with ask Is They're gonna hang with anybody. The 1390 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,640 Speaker 1: Rams beat him thirty to ten. Again, I don't I 1391 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 1: don't know that I expect a game like that, but 1392 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,720 Speaker 1: they've also this is a team that's that's that's you know, 1393 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 1: lost to the Lions. This is a team that that's 1394 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,000 Speaker 1: that's lost the Giants, lost the Giants twice. Their wins 1395 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,839 Speaker 1: aren't real impressive obviously on paper. And back to the Steelers, 1396 01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,840 Speaker 1: I mean just the nature in history of this organization, 1397 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,280 Speaker 1: their head coach, the stability, their quarterback. I do not 1398 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,000 Speaker 1: expect a sloppy game. I think more of a statement 1399 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,880 Speaker 1: game because everyone's starting to understand the press clippings. This 1400 01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 1: is a most overrated team in the league. And yeah, 1401 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,080 Speaker 1: there's a human nature factor to it, and they're gonna 1402 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,160 Speaker 1: embarrass the next team maybe Yeah, Um, I don't know that. 1403 01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,200 Speaker 1: You know, if if a seven point win would be 1404 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,320 Speaker 1: would be embarrassing. I think it spreads like nine and 1405 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,080 Speaker 1: a half, which I think is too much. But I 1406 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,320 Speaker 1: think there's a chance of a blowout there. Typically though, 1407 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,479 Speaker 1: when you look at these games a f C versus NFC, 1408 01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean these are two teams don't see each other 1409 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 1: a lot, and that places that always plays a factor 1410 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,280 Speaker 1: into it as well. Think that helps Washington just because 1411 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,840 Speaker 1: the long week. Yeah, and they're yeah, they so the 1412 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Steelers the coordinators talk today and they talked about how 1413 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,719 Speaker 1: I think even Ben Roethlisberger said, you know, they haven't 1414 01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,519 Speaker 1: had a lot of prep time for this game, so 1415 01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 1: you just basically do what you do best. You're not 1416 01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,880 Speaker 1: coming out with any Washington specific stuff, whereas Washington will 1417 01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,920 Speaker 1: come out with some Steelers specific stuff because they've had 1418 01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 1: more time to prepare. This more like a Thursday night 1419 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:27,719 Speaker 1: or where each coordinator kind of except one team. One 1420 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,519 Speaker 1: team is working on a Thursday. Yeah, the other team 1421 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 1: had to buy and this team is working on you know, 1422 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,679 Speaker 1: coming off a Thursday night. So I would worry about 1423 01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,320 Speaker 1: that that's a bit of a concert And that's why 1424 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:36,800 Speaker 1: I had this game a little closer than what I 1425 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,560 Speaker 1: would have. Not that it'll look like they blow a 1426 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,040 Speaker 1: coverage or something, but I bet they scheme something up 1427 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,960 Speaker 1: against the predictable coverage. And that's what coordinators do. And 1428 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:47,360 Speaker 1: that's the other side of the other part of this 1429 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 1: is Ron Rivera sees his Steelers every at least did 1430 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,960 Speaker 1: when he was in Carolina, saw them quite regularly. He's 1431 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 1: been around the block. Yeah, and he knows what he's doing. 1432 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 1: That's a good coaching staff. It's a good coaching staff. 1433 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,639 Speaker 1: And Rivera and I have no idea if they're friends, 1434 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,240 Speaker 1: are not, but they both have been coached this league 1435 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 1: a long time and it's a pretty elite fraternity. I'm 1436 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:06,680 Speaker 1: sure they know each other pretty well. Yeah, this is 1437 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 1: not Anthony Lynn coming in here. No, no, no, no, 1438 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,400 Speaker 1: or what's his face in Cincinnati that has is new 1439 01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,920 Speaker 1: to the game. The stat about him which not shocked, 1440 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 1: but he's won twenty percent of his games as a 1441 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,920 Speaker 1: head coach. Like, do you think Bengals make a change too, 1442 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,599 Speaker 1: There would be a lot of change. It's only been there. 1443 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,040 Speaker 1: This is his second year. He can't I don't think 1444 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:27,439 Speaker 1: you pull a plug on him. I don't think the 1445 01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:31,040 Speaker 1: Brown Brown the Bengals family, right, the Bengals aren't going 1446 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:32,799 Speaker 1: to do that. But I think he's won like nineteen 1447 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,439 Speaker 1: percent of his game. Yeah, it's really bad. It's really bad, 1448 01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,320 Speaker 1: and it's not gonna better. But now I don't think 1449 01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 1: they make a change. Now they've got their quarterback. I 1450 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 1: think he gets next year and then then then they 1451 01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,000 Speaker 1: talk about it like like I've never thought of him 1452 01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:46,599 Speaker 1: in that light. I just assumed that he'll be back. 1453 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's Matt Patricia, like it's Adam Gatee, 1454 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,360 Speaker 1: like you know, like, man, you're making up worse. Yeah. 1455 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,439 Speaker 1: So anyways, we're gonna take another break. When we come back, 1456 01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from Dave damn Check. It's always good 1457 01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,960 Speaker 1: to hear from the act. I'm sure he was well 1458 01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:06,720 Speaker 1: not real happy either with that game on Wednesday night. 1459 01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:11,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll see what happens with that, but certainly 1460 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:12,800 Speaker 1: we'll get to a Dave Damna Check from the NFL 1461 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 1: network right after this your tunes about drive on your 1462 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:54,040 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio, Welcome back. 1463 01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally here with Matt Williamson and Matty The 1464 01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 1: Steelers can clinch a playoff spot this weekend, the win 1465 01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:05,120 Speaker 1: in a Brown's loss, that would clinch the division. If 1466 01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 1: they do that, there's there's some other things there that 1467 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,000 Speaker 1: they can clinch with a win and some other teams 1468 01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:13,320 Speaker 1: losing or tying. So, uh, yeah, it's crazy. It's clinch 1469 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:18,000 Speaker 1: this early, pretty darn early. Yeah that that takes a 1470 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 1: little bit of the pressure off. Yeah, right right, absolutely so. 1471 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,720 Speaker 1: Been a heck of a year, there's no doubt about it. Yeah. 1472 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,320 Speaker 1: One guy who's quite happy about that, I'm sure is 1473 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,560 Speaker 1: Dave Damnishek of the NFL Network at NFL dot com. 1474 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,840 Speaker 1: He joins the DV Morning Show every week to talk 1475 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,840 Speaker 1: to Steelers in the overall NFL, and we like to 1476 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 1: play that back on Friday's Here's what Dave had to 1477 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:43,120 Speaker 1: say earlier today on the DV Morning Show, The DV 1478 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,760 Speaker 1: Morning Show, your radio home of the Pittsburgh Steelers one 1479 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,200 Speaker 1: or two point five d V and joining us Now, 1480 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,320 Speaker 1: that was heart lie here on the banks of the 1481 01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:55,559 Speaker 1: Three Rivers. He is situated in Southern California, host co 1482 01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,160 Speaker 1: host of the Extra Points podcast Minus three podcast. Dave 1483 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:03,519 Speaker 1: Damna Check ladies and gentlemen, Dave d how are you, sir? Well, 1484 01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 1: My heart's heavy, fellas as you know, I know everybody 1485 01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:11,360 Speaker 1: who's a Steelers fans feeling a little glum despite the 1486 01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,559 Speaker 1: victory over the Bald Birdies, a season sweep just one 1487 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,840 Speaker 1: year ago. Who would have guessed that if you would 1488 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:22,640 Speaker 1: have watched the season finale um in Baltimore at the 1489 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,920 Speaker 1: off the right arm of the same r G three 1490 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,240 Speaker 1: we watched on Wednesday afternoon? Um, who would have guessed 1491 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,559 Speaker 1: that the Steelers would sweep that series. Maybe that's what 1492 01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,800 Speaker 1: we're supposed to take out of it, is that look 1493 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,760 Speaker 1: how quick things can turn. And sadly they turned too 1494 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,240 Speaker 1: quickly for for Bud Dupree there towards the end of 1495 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:43,439 Speaker 1: the game. What a bummer. Well, it's it was the 1496 01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 1: number one concern of this game was getting out healthy. 1497 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,040 Speaker 1: Now that's all I cared about, right, whether it meant 1498 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,320 Speaker 1: staying away from the coronavirus or season ending injury. And 1499 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:59,519 Speaker 1: it's just we were talking off the butterfly effect of 1500 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,920 Speaker 1: this game being bounced around. If this game has played 1501 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:07,360 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving night, Dave, are we frustrated today with a 1502 01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:11,840 Speaker 1: win instead? You know, instead of rejoicing that this team 1503 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,519 Speaker 1: is eleven and oh we feel like we got kicked 1504 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:19,400 Speaker 1: in the gut. Yeah, it's well, yeah, the butterfly effect is. 1505 01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,880 Speaker 1: And of course everybody would push back quickly, and it 1506 01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,879 Speaker 1: would be a hard argument to make that bud Dupree 1507 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,920 Speaker 1: doesn't get hurt if they just play that game on 1508 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,400 Speaker 1: Thursday night, because injuries happen in every football game. But 1509 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:36,799 Speaker 1: of course the sequence, the exact sequence of events, um, 1510 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,200 Speaker 1: doesn't go down the way it went down on Wednesday afternoon. 1511 01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,680 Speaker 1: If the game has played six days prior, maybe it's 1512 01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,400 Speaker 1: a different Steeler who is lost for the season. Um. 1513 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,920 Speaker 1: But there's no way you could talk me out of 1514 01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:52,120 Speaker 1: the notion that the exact same sequence of events couldn't 1515 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,920 Speaker 1: have gone down on Thursday night as they did on Wednesday. Ergo, 1516 01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,479 Speaker 1: you can kind of point the finger that at all 1517 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,559 Speaker 1: these um these time changes, day changes of the game 1518 01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,559 Speaker 1: cost bud Dupree his season and therefore a lot of money. 1519 01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,479 Speaker 1: I listen, I'm just sick about it, fellas. I feel 1520 01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,559 Speaker 1: bad for him, you know, with the franchise tag and 1521 01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:17,120 Speaker 1: now the unknown of the off season. Uh yeah, just 1522 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:22,920 Speaker 1: it's but like I say, um, I also feel that 1523 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:28,360 Speaker 1: but John Harbaugh really just about like, as we you know, 1524 01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,400 Speaker 1: put this to bed and move forward, uh into the 1525 01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,639 Speaker 1: next week. I feel like, for real, this was all 1526 01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:38,800 Speaker 1: about John Harbaugh not wanting to play a game that 1527 01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,320 Speaker 1: his team basically had to have. He knew they needed 1528 01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,280 Speaker 1: to win this game, and it was like, well, we're 1529 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,519 Speaker 1: not gonna have Lamar Jackson. We gotta push, we gotta 1530 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,800 Speaker 1: do whatever we can to kick this thing down the road. 1531 01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,040 Speaker 1: And you're never gonna be able to talk me off 1532 01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,439 Speaker 1: of that one either. Oh no, it's for me. The 1533 01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:57,160 Speaker 1: Bud Dupree injury is just another reason to hate Harbaugh, 1534 01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,559 Speaker 1: hate the Ravens. And to your point, Dave, my heart 1535 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,920 Speaker 1: is heavy for Bud dupre and for him personally obviously, 1536 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:09,920 Speaker 1: but for that unit. I I like seeing teams reach 1537 01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:14,120 Speaker 1: their potential, and I thought that this defense was so 1538 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,160 Speaker 1: special that I wanted to watch them all get to 1539 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,680 Speaker 1: climb this mountain together and try to get to the 1540 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:24,000 Speaker 1: top as a unit because they were just terrorizing offenses 1541 01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,880 Speaker 1: and and Bud was having a monster year. He's such 1542 01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,680 Speaker 1: a key part of what they do, that rush up 1543 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,519 Speaker 1: the middle that just you know, has offenses on their 1544 01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:39,320 Speaker 1: heels all day. It's you know our mutual pal like 1545 01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:43,679 Speaker 1: Taylor um talked about. I had him on the Minus 1546 01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,120 Speaker 1: three a few weeks ago and we were talking about 1547 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,280 Speaker 1: that what what Mike Tomlin, he referred to it as 1548 01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,320 Speaker 1: brainwashing in the kindest of sense. He said that he 1549 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:56,600 Speaker 1: he brainwashed t J. Watt and Bud Dupree, who naturally 1550 01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,720 Speaker 1: both wanted to get a lot of sacks because they 1551 01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,800 Speaker 1: get paid and always here that that rhetoric out of 1552 01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,880 Speaker 1: the locker room about like it's team, we're playing for 1553 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,479 Speaker 1: each other and it's not about individuals. And there are 1554 01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,960 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that were on that last Steeler 1555 01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,599 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion team, Mike Taylor being one of them, 1556 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,400 Speaker 1: who said there's talent in that locker room. This was 1557 01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:17,400 Speaker 1: to three years ago. There's a lot of talent in 1558 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:20,080 Speaker 1: that locker room, but I don't necessarily know that they're 1559 01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,840 Speaker 1: playing for each other, that it that it's not about 1560 01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:27,679 Speaker 1: individual stuff to some degree, And you really felt last 1561 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:31,600 Speaker 1: year that the seven sitting down was galvanizing and that 1562 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,960 Speaker 1: defense really did rally together, and the whole team rallied together, 1563 01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,439 Speaker 1: and seven bought in as he returned, and and Tomlin 1564 01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:42,920 Speaker 1: really did to some degree brainwashed Watt and Dupre into 1565 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,080 Speaker 1: playing the run in early downs. It wasn't always about 1566 01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 1: just teeing off and getting to the QB that they 1567 01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 1: really were that the difference in this defense was that 1568 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,880 Speaker 1: those two guys were contributing significantly to shutting down the run, 1569 01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,080 Speaker 1: whether it was the Ravens or anybody else. And now 1570 01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:02,240 Speaker 1: you take the Pre out of there, it's just but listen, 1571 01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:05,640 Speaker 1: I know it's hard to find the silver lining, but 1572 01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,240 Speaker 1: fellas we got to. We have no choice but to 1573 01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:12,120 Speaker 1: do it. We still have the first ballot Hall of 1574 01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:17,600 Speaker 1: Famer number seven there at QB. And you know, I 1575 01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:22,000 Speaker 1: think he likes the chip on his shoulder. Pittsburgh has 1576 01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:26,640 Speaker 1: placed a chip on its shoulder. Collectively, everybody does, what 1577 01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,719 Speaker 1: is this? What is this jive? What is this pap about? 1578 01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:34,680 Speaker 1: Calling an undefeated team overrated? This is the word I 1579 01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:38,599 Speaker 1: keep hearing from the national media that that the Steelers are. 1580 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,160 Speaker 1: The literal word I keep hearing applied to them is 1581 01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,479 Speaker 1: over How can you overrate undefeated? They have zero in 1582 01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:48,320 Speaker 1: the lost column. There's no overrating. That that's it. And 1583 01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,960 Speaker 1: yet let that noise continue, let it mount that the 1584 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,519 Speaker 1: Chiefs are an impossible mountain to climb. Crawford. You talk 1585 01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,800 Speaker 1: about the mountain that you want to be on. Let 1586 01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,799 Speaker 1: the let Patrick Mahomes a company sit it up high 1587 01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:04,519 Speaker 1: there and the Steelers can't possibly reach them. That's just 1588 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,680 Speaker 1: the position we want to be. And we don't want 1589 01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:10,120 Speaker 1: to be supposed to be him. We want to be 1590 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,719 Speaker 1: the plucky gang coming in there. Chris Collins. We're talking 1591 01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,120 Speaker 1: about like I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you, 1592 01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,720 Speaker 1: Mike and Al. I don't know. The ladies in Pittsburgh 1593 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,920 Speaker 1: even they don't believe I gotta tell you that I 1594 01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,400 Speaker 1: was talking to them, and they don't. They just don't like, Uh, 1595 01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:30,479 Speaker 1: what are Nickel package looks like against Patrick Mahomes and 1596 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,439 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill? And they don't know who's gonna step up, 1597 01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,360 Speaker 1: which covered safety is gonna be able to handle Travis Kell. 1598 01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,880 Speaker 1: You know what, That's exactly the spot we want. What 1599 01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:44,680 Speaker 1: do we keep talking about fellas journey in especially, not destiny, 1600 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:49,000 Speaker 1: not destination. Let's get them, Let's go get Washington Whatever's 1601 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:51,600 Speaker 1: And I've talked about, by the way, the passage of 1602 01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,559 Speaker 1: time that we're still in the week third team, we're 1603 01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:57,280 Speaker 1: taught calling the pro football team the Washington's or whatever. Yeah, 1604 01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean you know, Dave again, we play a Thursday 1605 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,479 Speaker 1: night football game on a Wednesday with the Sunday Night 1606 01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:07,520 Speaker 1: Football Crew, and now we are doing a postgame analysis 1607 01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,320 Speaker 1: on a Friday before our next game Monday at five 1608 01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:14,639 Speaker 1: pm against a team with no nickname. What in hell? 1609 01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,280 Speaker 1: What in hell? How did we get here? This isn't 1610 01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,800 Speaker 1: the way three men make a living. This isn't the 1611 01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:23,639 Speaker 1: way that it's supposed to be. We're not men. I'll 1612 01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,759 Speaker 1: tell you what they should call him is the Washington Women, 1613 01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:32,560 Speaker 1: because women love football, Washington ladies. I was here. I 1614 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:37,880 Speaker 1: gotta tell you he's just the ancients capital Totius bar there. 1615 01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,720 Speaker 1: He's just gonna overcompensate now and just be like, I'll 1616 01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:44,040 Speaker 1: tell you what nole bigger fan of football there, women. 1617 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,880 Speaker 1: I know that that's the one that gets the heat 1618 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,600 Speaker 1: that colins Worth is had they shoe an apology, I 1619 01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,599 Speaker 1: guess yesterday think about it. But to me, the one 1620 01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 1: that I like even better from him, I mean that 1621 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,280 Speaker 1: that the first one, like even later he's like football 1622 01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:01,120 Speaker 1: like yeah, that's like he's an old man, he's from 1623 01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,439 Speaker 1: he's from another generation. And to his credit, he you know, 1624 01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,639 Speaker 1: he admitted like, oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize that sounded. 1625 01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,679 Speaker 1: You know, I did not intend for it to sound 1626 01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:13,519 Speaker 1: the way it did. And you know, I mean, isn't 1627 01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,559 Speaker 1: the goal for people if you want them to come 1628 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,680 Speaker 1: onto your side, then to go, okay, good, you got it, 1629 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:22,120 Speaker 1: you're on our side, not to continually flagellate them. Yeah, 1630 01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,960 Speaker 1: well it's it's you know, Boomer Berman has fallen under 1631 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:28,760 Speaker 1: the same thing, which is like he denounced right right 1632 01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:32,599 Speaker 1: in front of his eyes. He he went from semi hit. Well, 1633 01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you would ever call Chris Burman hit, 1634 01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,320 Speaker 1: but he went from like he was the voice of 1635 01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:41,120 Speaker 1: football America to being out a step when he started 1636 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,160 Speaker 1: making fun of fantasy football. And it's like, hey, hey, Boomer, 1637 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,639 Speaker 1: you're the only human being who doesn't know anything about 1638 01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,120 Speaker 1: fantasy football at this point. It's the same thing Chris 1639 01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,479 Speaker 1: Collins where like, yeah, I don't know if you heard Chris, 1640 01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:56,519 Speaker 1: women like football now. All right, So here's where we 1641 01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,840 Speaker 1: are undefeated, and somehow it felt like a loss because 1642 01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,560 Speaker 1: we lost Bud Dupree and we watched our team embarrassed 1643 01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:04,519 Speaker 1: themselves in front of a bunch of people who are 1644 01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,200 Speaker 1: used to watching soap operas at that time of day Button. 1645 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,559 Speaker 1: The Washington football team has gotten better and better every week, Dave, 1646 01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,080 Speaker 1: and they are now poised to win the NFC East. 1647 01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,759 Speaker 1: Not a not a huge accomplishment, uh this this season 1648 01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:21,200 Speaker 1: in particular, but still not a game to be taken 1649 01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:25,280 Speaker 1: likely lightly, particularly after the upheaval of the schedule, the 1650 01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:29,880 Speaker 1: getting them out of their routine. Uh that we saw 1651 01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:33,000 Speaker 1: the results of that we saw on Wednesday afternoon. Not 1652 01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,599 Speaker 1: so great for the Steelers. So I think we need 1653 01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,639 Speaker 1: to really focus here. And Donante Johnson can't drop every 1654 01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,599 Speaker 1: other ball thrown to him. Very true. And I also 1655 01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:44,320 Speaker 1: like how poised is one of those words that used 1656 01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,360 Speaker 1: a lot in sports, more than it is in any 1657 01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,040 Speaker 1: other walk alife. A lot of people in sports poised 1658 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,519 Speaker 1: to do stuff. Not as mighty, not not not as 1659 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,679 Speaker 1: much you you mean, you're like when when we finish 1660 01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:58,559 Speaker 1: up the show today, when Bowman finishes up, Bowman's poised 1661 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:02,040 Speaker 1: to take a nap. Yeah, Like, we don't hear that 1662 01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:05,080 Speaker 1: talk as much outside of the world of sports, but listen, 1663 01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:09,559 Speaker 1: I do remember the late great Myron Cope who once 1664 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:14,040 Speaker 1: said the terrible twel is poised to strike, and so 1665 01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,479 Speaker 1: are the Steelers. We have a Hall of Famer. There 1666 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,320 Speaker 1: are a lot of what I talk a lot about 1667 01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:26,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and we've achieved full QB saturation, which 1668 01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:30,679 Speaker 1: is to say, barring injury. Obviously, if you're starting QB 1669 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,360 Speaker 1: is hurt and you have to throw the backup in there, 1670 01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,599 Speaker 1: then that throws it out. But the state of QBAN 1671 01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,160 Speaker 1: and pro football is pretty good right now. I mean 1672 01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,519 Speaker 1: it wasn't that long ago where like case Keenum was 1673 01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,400 Speaker 1: a viable starter was as good as you could do. Now, 1674 01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,479 Speaker 1: like who's the worst starter in the league, There aren't 1675 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:50,800 Speaker 1: very many awful situations going in pro football. However, the 1676 01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:56,200 Speaker 1: middle class is beefy. There is only a few select 1677 01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:00,360 Speaker 1: fellas that still inhabit the upper class of prof with ball. 1678 01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:04,920 Speaker 1: Guys who aren't just game managers, not just not just 1679 01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,720 Speaker 1: the point guard distributing the ball. Shore number seven has 1680 01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,800 Speaker 1: done that effectively this year. We heard a lot of that. 1681 01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:12,840 Speaker 1: For Chris, look, get rid of the ball. He really 1682 01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,480 Speaker 1: get the rid of the ball. As people of Pittsburgh, 1683 01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:19,120 Speaker 1: you really appreciate when you're talking about a beefy middle class, 1684 01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:23,479 Speaker 1: you're talking about the city of Pittsburgh. He loved talking 1685 01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:28,240 Speaker 1: about the ladies. Shout out to you beefy ladies. I 1686 01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,120 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys know this, but the women 1687 01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:33,920 Speaker 1: have joined the workforce now and they flow the way. 1688 01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:36,920 Speaker 1: Where the hell is where does collins Worth? Where does it? Where? 1689 01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:40,320 Speaker 1: Where does he uh put his head down at night? Cincinnati? 1690 01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,559 Speaker 1: Whether or whether who's he to talk about any anyway? Listen, 1691 01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:48,439 Speaker 1: I have neither the time nor the interest to indulge 1692 01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:51,920 Speaker 1: Chris collins worst nonsense anymore. I have just one thing 1693 01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:56,839 Speaker 1: to say. There's a small, small group of human beings 1694 01:30:56,920 --> 01:31:00,400 Speaker 1: walking the planet Earth right now, capable of not just 1695 01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:05,960 Speaker 1: overseeing victory, but guiding dragging its team to victory. We 1696 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,439 Speaker 1: just so happened on the banks of the Three Rivers 1697 01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:12,320 Speaker 1: to have yet another hall of fame right arm in 1698 01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:19,400 Speaker 1: the line of Unitus and Nameth and Kelly and Marino 1699 01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:23,960 Speaker 1: and mont Tanna and up on that list also now 1700 01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:30,240 Speaker 1: stands one time, Ohio and pittsburgher forever number seven, Big 1701 01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:34,960 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisburger. It's number seven times you've been delivered by 1702 01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:38,320 Speaker 1: this devents to eleven and oh where we go from 1703 01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:42,040 Speaker 1: here is up to you, number seven. You have my 1704 01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:46,920 Speaker 1: full confidence, blue collar Pittsburgh, and I love you seven. 1705 01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,400 Speaker 1: Take us to the top. Of that mountain, not fifteen 1706 01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:52,880 Speaker 1: and the rest of those Red Jersey fellas off of it. 1707 01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:57,799 Speaker 1: Here we go, Stealers, it's December. Let's round out in style, 1708 01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:08,960 Speaker 1: Go get Washington whatever. Dave Damna that was NFL Network 1709 01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:11,960 Speaker 1: and NFL dot COM's Dave damashek of course Pittsburgh naded. 1710 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,240 Speaker 1: We play him back every Friday to finish the show, 1711 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:18,839 Speaker 1: and he's a great finish to the week as usual, 1712 01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:22,680 Speaker 1: always fired up and bringing some energy. Yeah, it's like 1713 01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,960 Speaker 1: he's very Dave one stat like, Yeah, that's a good 1714 01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:31,880 Speaker 1: that's a good one. Yeah, that sound about it. Yeah, 1715 01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:33,479 Speaker 1: it's just it's just there. You can hear it, and 1716 01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:39,240 Speaker 1: he doesn't hide it. Soah TV right Yeah, Um, Steelers 1717 01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:42,439 Speaker 1: play the the Washington football team. That's a five o'clock 1718 01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:46,360 Speaker 1: start on Monday. That means no show for us. But 1719 01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:50,960 Speaker 1: to enjoy the show, enjoy the games this weekend. Uh yeah, 1720 01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:52,439 Speaker 1: we'll have all kinds of stuff and we'll also have 1721 01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,360 Speaker 1: the Ravens playing that night. We'll see how many guys 1722 01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:57,280 Speaker 1: they got back off the COVID list. We'll talk about 1723 01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:00,559 Speaker 1: all that when we return next Tuesday. Just a few 1724 01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,599 Speaker 1: games left, we're down, coming down to stretch now, man, 1725 01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:06,120 Speaker 1: we're in December and it's time for us to unleash 1726 01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:09,960 Speaker 1: hell in December. Yeah. They've unleashed hell up till now. Yeah, 1727 01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:13,280 Speaker 1: why not. H So for my partner Matt Williamson for 1728 01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,639 Speaker 1: Jacob rect here on site keeping us on the air, 1729 01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,120 Speaker 1: I am Dale Lally. We thank you for listening to 1730 01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:21,080 Speaker 1: this edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.