WEBVTT - We AREN’T Skibidi Cooked, Chat! with Etymology Nerd 09.23.25 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:08.039 What's the etymology of the dream blunt rotation? I wonder 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:09.520 who came up with dreams? 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:14.680 Shakespeare are very creative, I guess, yeah, right, I'll have 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:15.720 to look more into it. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.840 Yeah yeah, yeah, that was an etymologists. I'd just always 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:21.840 be like Shakespeare man, right right, that's the fall back. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:25.880 Oh you didn't read that one. Well, guess who's stupid 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:26.880 now it's you? 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:29.560 Or always just be like it's Latin dog Yeah, I 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:33.320 mean nowadays it's eider k or Latin Yeah yeah? 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:33.560 Wait? 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:35.440 What is our? 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:37.159 Is our? Shakespeare? 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.199 What's kayson not given to us in the MA? 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.559 Like riz huzz phantom tax like all the popular jen 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:43.640 alpha words. 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:47.000 Really yeah, realize that? Wait what is phantom tax? 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.040 It's like the same, this is what the episode is. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:54.360 Can be someone's food? Yeah yeah, it's just like stealing 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:54.960 someone's food. 0:00:55.480 --> 0:01:02.000 But do I have riz have it? Right? 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:04.800 There's I look by a junior high and whenever I 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:07.520 walk out, when or walk by when the school gets out, 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.680 they they all call me like, hey, dickhead. 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:11.200 But I think it's like cool. 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:13.800 That's the news lang word. It means it really cool. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.959 Yeah, that's what I fucking thought. See my partner thinks 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:20.400 they're just it's bad. I'm like, nah, I'm like that's right, dude, 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:21.240 it's your dickhead. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:21.440 Bro. 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:24.920 Yeah, you'll know partner doesn't know the Daily's like, guys, 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:26.520 then that's right. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:28.480 We're here reading the TVs. 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.880 A Jenna Alipha yesterday, I was like, all right, explained 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.319 six seven, and he got so embarrassed, even though it's 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.039 like nothing bad, it's just like it started. 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.919 Do you guys remember like twenty one, like the vine 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:43.880 twenty one. It was like it was like a joke 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.399 when I was in middle of school to say twenty 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.800 one and like six seven is the new twenty one. 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:50.600 That's just it's just like a funny number that doesn't 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:51.440 mean anything. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.760 Right, right, I mean we had sixty nine and it 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:54.440 meant something. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:56.320 Well, that made mean something. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:56.640 Yeah. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.480 Yeah, back in my day, nonsense numbers meant something. 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:04.400 Six and I wasn't going dupe doop okay, that shit 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:05.080 met something. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:11.560 I was going nice time and that's just what you did. 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:15.120 Oh yeah, we're going to open your bibles, Philippians. 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:31.840 Six nice check, Get out Jack, get out out of class. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.240 Hello the Internet, and welcome the season four. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.880 US have an episode two of Dirt Eily's Hey Guys, 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.639 a production of iHeartRadio. This is the podcast where you 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.160 take a deep bab into American share consciousness. And it's Tuesday, 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:41.680 September twenty third, twenty twenty five. 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.440 Mm hmm, what's that. It's the Rapture. Hey, it's the Rapture. 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:46.880 Baby, bundle up. 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.840 Time to join Time to join them in the Kingdom 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.520 of Heaven. Also shout out my boy Chris's birthday, National 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:56.400 Teal Talk Day, National. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:01.959 Six He'll talk snack stick Day, Okay, stick snackstick Day, 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.480 So like stick if a stick is in the shape 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.799 of if a snack is in a stick form, then 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:08.119 a snack stick Day. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:13.280 It's also National Great American Pop Pride Day. Also celebrate 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:17.400 Bisexuality Day. It's also Energized Day, which sounds like some 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.520 woo woo will miss shit oh because it's the day 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.519 after the Oh shit is the equal We're fully in fall. 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:24.760 I forgot about that part. 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.200 Oh was the equinox yesterday? Twenty second? 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.160 Yeah? Yeah, my favorite jee All. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.840 Right, shout out to the Great American Popeye. My name 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:36.840 is Jack O'Brien aka you can Go and you I 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:41.720 Go and you a that one. Courtesy of Kai who 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.280 said to the tune of Go Your Own Way by 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.520 Fleewood Mac. I think Jack said he used to say 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.760 and ui because he had only seen the word in 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.680 text on we Yeah. I was aware of both. I 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:52.680 was aware of on WII. 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:53.000 Oh. 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.800 I was aware of the word in ui that I 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:59.400 just hadn't connected the cool sounding French word with the 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.960 word I saw on texts that meant a certain vague, 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.440 frenchy existential boredom. I was like theod they should make 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.360 those the same word. Yeah, Alas, I'm thrilled to be 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.680 joined as always buy my co host, mister Miles Grime. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:18.719 Miles akaa crimey. My gene's so frozen day shiny, No 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.279 hand washing line dry in frozen crust is dripping like 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:26.239 dime is crimey because you know, putting jeans in the freezer, 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:28.920 no matter what the stain is or the situation and 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.800 not a great way to clean your genes. Okay, So 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:33.280 I'm just gonna put that out there, Just put that 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:33.640 out there. 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.080 I need is a cryo chamber and a chiseling to 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.920 get all the dirt and shit off my jeans. Miles, 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.440 We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.359 a linguist who you know as the etymology nerd on 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.560 social media. His new book out Everywhere now is I'll 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.840 go speak how social media is transforming the future of language. 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.720 It's Adam Alexe. Hello, Am. 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.480 I supposed to have a musical intro as well? 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:03.000 Yes, oh, Adam, I don't have any Come on, man, 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:07.360 improvise something now. It's fine. It's great to have you here, man. Yeah, 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.719 thanks for thanks for taking the time to be here. 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.520 Yeah. Yeah, I feel like this is a it's an 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.760 interesting time because this over the last year, I feel 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.680 like we've gotten really into like gen Z Jen alphis 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.799 Lang and just going what the fuck are they talking about? 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:23.760 Are they okay? 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:24.160 Am? 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.480 I okay? Uh? And yeah your area of expertise lines 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.600 up perfectly with that perfect Yeah. 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:31.920 I'm a skibbitty scholar. 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:36.240 Oh yes, yes, and I'm Professor Chimpanzeini by Nanini at 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:36.799 your service. 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:41.479 And I don't know what you guys are talking about anyway. 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:46.040 Jack and Jack We're gonna talk about all. 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.919 Of that plenty more. We're also gonna get into maybe 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.200 a news story about flying cars, but mainly we want 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.360 to talk to you about language and how it's rotting 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.480 the brains of our youth or is it. No, we're 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.560 not going to talk. We're not going to say that, 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:01.880 but before we get to it, we do like to 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.920 ask our guest, what is something Adam from your search 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.360 history that's revealing about who you are. 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.599 I just checked my search history and the most recent 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.240 thing was Trila leo trala la high resolution? 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:17.840 Wait, I red is like the image of it? 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.279 Yeah yeah, I mean you gotta have the high definition 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:24.120 version of it? First academic presentations? Is that your favorite 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.840 Italian brain run character? I think that's the most indicative 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.520 of the genre. It was the first one that I encountered, 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:31.680 so to me as a special value. 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:33.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm I'm more of a tum 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.520 tum tum sah or guy myself. 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:36.240 Oh he's great too. 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:36.520 Yeah. 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.719 I guess for those that don't know, I don't know 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:40.520 why you're not caught up, but it's like a shark 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:41.440 wearing shoes and. 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:46.640 Work on yourself. Yeah yeah, yeah, shark wearing sneakers on 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:48.159 his pectoral fins. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.719 Right, I know, he's got straight up lest he's got 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.200 it's actually hybrid. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.280 Yeah, it kind of varies sometimes it looks like yeah, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.240 but Anyways, he got shoes on. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.560 He signed that Nike deal man Phil Knight got to 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:06.000 him quick. He's like, man, I want in the fucking 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:06.919 swoosh now. 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:11.400 And as you're like reading the trends in language, are 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.560 you ahead of the curve? Are you like basketball? Like 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:18.880 the weird basketball savants who saw Lebron James as a 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.600 twelve year old and we're like, this guy's the next. 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:22.920 Christ, next guy's the next note. 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.240 It's like, that's such a weird skill to have, but 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.760 amazing that they were able to call that at age twelve. 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:35.240 Did you see Italian brain rot? And we're just immediately 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:36.760 knew that this was the future. 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.600 I genuinely think I'm more tapped in than your average 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.600 linguist for sure at this point because I publicly comment 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.800 on where words come from. People will like tag me 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.200 in videos where new words are being used, so I 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.240 sort of have that opportunity to see it before it 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.560 goes viral. Then I sort of get to monitor it 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.240 over time. I think there is like I do have 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:58.240 maybe that awareness before most people, but Italian brain rot 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.600 I was like a little early curve life. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.720 Over like Thanksgiving in the holidays. I will be around 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:08.640 some jen Alfa relatives. What's what's some like new wave shit? 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:09.600 I can kind of hit them with. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.440 So I think you just got to be talking to them. 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.480 That's exactly it. They're more tapped in than we could 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.280 ever possibly be because they are the ones that are 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.000 defining the culture and it just revolves around them. 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:20.640 Okay, Okay, so. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.360 You're in a room with twelve year olds and you're 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:23.040 just listening. 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.640 We should just start, Yeah, pay attention to them, learn 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:29.520 from them, you know, maybe interview them. I'm trying to 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.800 get up on site. That's why I'm hanging out in 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:33.080 the middle. 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.760 It's clearly an academic what do you I hate not 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.280 knowing what Ohio means. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:44.240 Yeah, the Skibbty thing that we've dug into that, the 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.640 fact that there is an entire Michael bay fictional universe 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:52.280 in the works, in the Skibbity works. Very confused by 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:57.960 that one. I do. There's a certain artistic beauty about 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:02.319 the Italian brand I'm very confused by. I guess the 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.520 skivity toilet shit could be like Didesta a little bit, 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.400 but it's very confusing to me. Anyways, I can't wait 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.800 to see the films. Uh from my favorite filmmaker Michael Bay. 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.439 What is something you think is underrated vibes? 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:21.000 I think like I come from a background of academic linguistics, 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.239 where people tend to over categorize things and don't recognize 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.040 that things have feelings, Like you have a feeling about 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:28.640 a word, which is why you adopt. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.440 It, right, what's wait? So what's like sort of like 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:32.520 the overly academic. 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.960 So I think the most famous, like example of vibes 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.240 in linguistics is like buba and kiki. We all feel 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.040 like the word buba is round and the word kiki 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.360 is sharp, and yet the standard models don't really have 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.280 like an explanation for that. I think all of languages 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.880 kind of vibe based that, like we have feelings about 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:48.480 words and whether we like them or not, and that's 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:49.720 why we actually adopt them. 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:52.400 I was with somebody recently who is like, your name 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.960 is either this name or this name, and they're like, oh, 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.000 Miles is totally this same thing. I was like, what 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.400 the fuck are you talking about? Like, I'm like I 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.760 became old. I'm like, my name is my name, it's 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.439 not I forget what it was. But they're like these 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.800 two distinct names or they felt like vibe wise groups. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.920 Your name fit into one vibe or the other. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.440 But then it's interesting because I feel like vibes are 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.439 a little subjective too, So like I got this. 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.080 Like I've seen a lot of discourse about like does 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.720 someone's name like sound like it belongs to them, which 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.880 is like completely a vibe based thing. But like if 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.360 it doesn't, people make nicknames, or they make longer names, 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.520 or they like replace it that like that's how vibes work. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.520 Mm hmmmm, yeah, Adam, I feel like kind of a 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.280 soft has a soft name to it. Miles has a 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.400 nice soft feel to it, Like I'm the first dude 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.280 that's not yet. No, sure you're soft, bro. 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.760 Well it's interesting with like names, with names, especially like 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.360 fifty percent of Gen Alpha names end in an N 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.920 for boys, like why you know, like the Mason, Carson, Jackson, Grayson, 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:53.840 Like these are the most popular Gen Alpha names, And 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.760 it's because parents right now have a vibe that a 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.880 masculine name ends in an end. That's literally it, it's 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:00.760 all vibes based. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.199 They need to know it's my son. Jack Son is 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.839 very important to me. What is something you think is overrated? 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:12.040 Efficiency? I think I spend a time a lot of 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.800 time studying algorithms, studying how people optimize for things, and 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:17.640 I don't think that's where we find meaning. And things 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.080 like uber eats, like delivering something straight to your doorstep. 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.400 You don't experience the friction that makes life feel worth living. 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:25.880 You don't bump into your friend in the street, you 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.920 don't interact with your local community. The efficiency of algorithms 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.120 and how everything is streamlined in society is kind of 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:31.640 boring to me. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah, unless you're yeah, unless you hate running 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.520 into people you went to high school with in public 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.320 when you're high and you just want to get taco 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.520 bell just just quietly, there's a time and playece. 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I always found people to be 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:50.400 an impediment to the efficiency of commerce, and so yeah, 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.840 that's why I'm really excited about this new direction that 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.679 our society has taken. This This actually gets to kind 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.000 of my first question for you is just you know 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.559 the difference between I mean, I feel like you did 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:07.640 a post on like quant speak and like how the 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.880 the language of efficiency is sort of bleeding in, Like 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.240 I one example that I've noticed, I don't know if 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.080 this would be categorized the same in Yearbook. But like 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:21.360 the phrase replacement level is a thing that I've like 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.400 from the world of sports analytics, which is just like, yeah, 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:29.280 they're like an average player, but it like adds this 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:33.080 sort of dark fascist like Thomas the tank engine thing, 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:38.080 where like everybody is just replaceable and CHANGEABI. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:42.000 people as commodities. Like so I do I notice that 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.719 as a as a newish trend sort of vying with 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.760 the more broad trends of like language. It seems too 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:55.920 historically and even modern like today feel it's like a 0:12:55.960 --> 0:13:00.120 democratic phenomenon. It's like not top down and it's you know, 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:05.280 it comes from like teenagers or like frequently persecuted minority groups, 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:10.880 and like it's a way for people without officially sanctioned 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.760 power to like weird wield their creativity and like power, 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:18.080 which is I think beautiful. And that's what you see 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:22.320 with a lot of these linguistic trends that scare people online. 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:26.800 But then yeah, I do see also, you know, whether 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.000 it be the world of like you know, like analytics 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:34.080 people are stat people, or just like the corporate world, 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.840 you know, creating these new phrases. I feel like that's 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:40.600 sort of an interesting like dark and light side battle 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.640 that we see in linguistics happening all the time. Do 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:46.280 you think about it that way at all? 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:47.240 That's so interesting No. 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.199 I think there's each community always finds the best way 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.840 to speak for that community, and it changes as the 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.160 vibe changes. Again, I think the vibe is important here. 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.440 It's very probably true that since the moneyball era started 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.800 the sports language has got more about like quantifying things, 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:03.839 and you're talking more about things like RBIs than you 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.719 used to. Probably, right, people care about stats a lot more. 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.640 I think as communities have shared values, language emerges to 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.080 reflect those values. So the video you were referencing was 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.160 about how math nerds and cs people kind of find 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.680 streamline optimized ways of communicating. I think that's definitely true, 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:24.000 because their goal is to find efficient ways, maybe mathematically, 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.640 to express things. Same things happening with middle schoolers, right. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.840 Middle schoolers are just vibing in that they are using 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:34.080 language to connect with other middle schoolers, to differentiate their 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.840 identity from adults. And that distinction between top down and 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.600 bottom up is kind of constant that we always impose 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.600 like a layer, like through dictionaries or through formal rules 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.200 of what language is supposed to be, but then in 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.160 reality that doesn't fit onto everybody, and then different communities 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.320 find their own ways of expressing themselves. 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.720 Right, Yeah, I feel like, I mean it's a fit. Right. 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.760 They're trying to find the most efficient way to communicate, 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:00.280 but they're also trying to make each other laugh and 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:05.400 trying to impress people, you know, And like there's this 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:09.000 book about the evolution of birds and the role of 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.120 beauty and like how birds evolved, and so like, you know, 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:16.200 we tend to think of, you know, the way evolution 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.800 works and as like the survival of the fittest being, 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.200 like you know, it's just everything is a something that 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:26.920 was evolved to like feed or like defeat or dominate 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:28.960 the other side. And it's like, you know, a lot 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.800 of the stuff that birds have evolved to do is 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.320 just to be like beautiful in a way that is 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.400 like attract some other mate, you know. And so I 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:41.400 feel like, similarly, in language, you have how to most 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.640 efficiently communicate your meaning, but also how to do so 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.520 in a way that is just like fun, you know, 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.360 and like makes people laugh and makes people impressed by 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:51.960 your creativity a little bit. 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.400 Yeah, I don't think everything is about efficiency, right, I 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:59.120 think it can also be you're joking, you're kind of 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.640 trying to communicy that your chill or laid back, those 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.640 those things aren't efficient. If you're being efficient, that it 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:05.400 isn't chill or laid back. And I don't know, like 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.560 surfer communities, like we'll talk differently than the quants, you know, 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.280 because they have a different goal in mind, they have 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.640 a different vibe of how they're approaching language. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:17.920 Yeah, it does feel like teenagers, Like how we experience 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:22.320 language being spoken by teenagers today and then how we 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.800 actually use language those spoken by teenagers in years past 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.720 is like kind of you know, people don't realize how 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:33.640 much of our modern dialect is just created by sort 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.680 of younger people. Or you know, I've heard people talk 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.520 about upspeak being a thing that was started by teen 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.760 girls and criticized and criticized and criticized, and until the 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.720 people criticizing it, we're also doing it with upspeak. You know, 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.080 how do you like it is that sort of a 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:55.040 constant in your study of like how language evolves, or 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.160 also like persecuted minority groups like you. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.160 See you seem to really know what's happening that it 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.480 often does come out of these minority groups because they 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:07.119 have the biggest reason to defy the hierarchical imposition of language, 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.520 because that's not their version of language. The language that's 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.600 being imposed is like the super straight, white old man 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:16.439 version of language. So minority groups, women, they're going to 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.159 want to eventually talk different than than they do, and 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.680 then they're kind of scrutinized by these other people. Except 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.360 these young people and the marginalized communities are the ones 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.800 that are actually generating the new language. And sometimes that 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:27.680 leaks into the mainstream and then it gets adopted, and 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.480 then it gets institutionalized, and then we once again forget 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.960 like that it came from that group. This is a 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.359 time honored process that we see over and over again. 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.920 But yeah, you seem to really have a good graph 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:40.800 of that. I think we have a tendency to call 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.399 things brain rot right, and the idea that words are 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.720 bad for your brain, it's kind of funny. I think 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.640 brain rod is also a meme aesthetic, and to be fair, 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.479 the words that are spreading right now fit into that 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:54.959 meme aesthetic really well. And the aesthetic is like pointing 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.280 back to the algorithm and how the algorithm is bad 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:58.800 for our brains. And these words are coming from the 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.280 algorithm risk, ivideo high do bichocolate, la, booboo, macha. You know, 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.200 all of those are memes brought to us by the algorithm. 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.639 And the words are funny because they're like algorithmic words. 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.600 But I don't think the words themselves are bad. But 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.640 you know, we do have this tendency to call language bad, 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:15.240 and we've been doing it time and time again. And 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:16.919 you go back to the nineteen hundreds and there are 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:20.000 articles about people like being upset at words that we 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:21.160 now find normal. 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.520 Right right, I wonder too, like if it's kind of 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.080 you know, we we sort of speak the same way, 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.040 especially as kids, because you're referencing something in pop culture 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:31.679 or like sort of in group as like young people. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.800 This is like a shared experience or value. And I 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:36.560 wonder too, because, like I was trying to think, like, 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.920 what the fuck was I saying? That would have even 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:42.280 been perceived as brain rot quote unquote, like because again 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.159 this is all generationally cyclical, where the like they go, 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.520 what are the kids talking about these days? And I'm like, 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.880 I wonder too, because like in the eighties and nineties, 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:56.680 there was really a very limited amount of content movies 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.200 TV that's sort of a lot of people were experiencing 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.520 at the same time. With the Internet, it becomes so 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.879 much more specific that suddenly like everyone knows Ace Ventura 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:10.399 or everyone knows the Budweiser frogs. So being like or 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:14.400 saying like still to this day, yeah, same or alrighty, 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.439 then is again the same way we were just saying 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.919 some dumb shit because it's from this thing you like, 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.000 not because you're like that's the way I talk. You're like, 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.840 we're saying the thing from the thing we like that 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:29.520 now because there's so many different like sort of inputs 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.600 for like what that what can affect someone's language or 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:34.439 the kind of content that they have an affinity for, 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:36.920 that's that Now it's like people are like, well, I 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.560 don't know fucking skimmity of toilet, So what the fuck 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:40.680