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Speaker 1: Yo, Black, we live on locations with a knuckleheads classes.

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Speaker 2: For this one, We're.

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Speaker 1: Going all the way back to the very beginning with

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Speaker 1: our first ever episode with none other than Jimmy Buckets.

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Speaker 2: Buckets Boy, you remember when this happened.

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Speaker 1: It was right after Jimmy got traded to Philly, before

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Speaker 1: he even started to hoop with the Heat. He talked

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Speaker 1: about how Minnesota's culture didn't work for him for a

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Speaker 1: variety of reasons, and it's cool to see that his

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Speaker 1: mentality fitting perfectly with the Heat, just like we kind

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Speaker 1: of thought it would. What you think about everything you've

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Speaker 1: watched and seeing him grow and his role in Miami

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Speaker 1: over the last few years.

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Speaker 2: Loved it.

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Speaker 3: Going back to the episode of him leaving Minnesota than

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Speaker 3: going to Philly didn't land to the Heat. Going over

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Speaker 3: the episode, his mentality was perfect for the Miami Heat organization.

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Speaker 3: He bleeded the same blood as him, and I think

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Speaker 3: it was a perfect situation. And seeing how he then

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Speaker 3: took Miami to the finals and done what he's done

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Speaker 3: and helped elevate a lot of players over there and

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Speaker 3: just be in an organization seeing them around the city,

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Speaker 3: I think it was a great situation for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, man.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, I only played one year there, but

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Speaker 1: sometimes you see things and it's a perfect match made

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Speaker 1: in heaven. And I felt like the cloth that Jimmy

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Speaker 1: was cut from is the same thing that makes Miami Miami.

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Speaker 1: And you can see the love fest from within, you know,

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Speaker 1: because it's family.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You fight with your family, you love your family, but

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Speaker 1: you're still there. And I think, you know, to see

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Speaker 1: what Jimmy has been and what he means to that team,

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Speaker 1: he's like a you know, obviously Udd is a hard

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Speaker 1: and soul, but Jimmy is also like a hard and

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Speaker 1: soul type of guy for that team, and you know,

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Speaker 1: he's that superstar that they need to kind of replace

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Speaker 1: the d Wade and he stepped in and as far

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Speaker 1: as like professional going about the things the way that they,

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Speaker 1: you know, go about things at a high rate, he's

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Speaker 1: done that and I think I think it's been a

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Speaker 1: sick fit for them, and I think Jimmy is own

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Speaker 1: and become, you know, more of who he wants to be,

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Speaker 1: and I think Miami is better for Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Jimmy, Buckets and Nugg ahead classic yah

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Speaker 3: Hmm, what I want to know, especially since you're a defender.

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Speaker 2: He was the funny too. No, you would't. Don't do that, No,

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Speaker 2: you would't.

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Speaker 3: You're the scorer shooter at that three point shoot he

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Speaker 3: used the post up you can.

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Speaker 2: Down a little bit. But in the second later part

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Speaker 2: of my was a defender.

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Speaker 4: No, he was the first off, you're a defender first,

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Speaker 4: and then you start to lose your mobility, so then

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Speaker 4: you become a three point You did.

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Speaker 3: Did exactly what I said, disrespectful us being defenders. You know, shoot, defender,

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Speaker 3: who's the first person that bust your ass in the league?

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Speaker 3: And you was like, oh, this is the league, this

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Speaker 3: is where it's at, Like so shit, he was hitting like, oh.

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Speaker 4: You realize, like it's the league for you. That can

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Speaker 4: happen on any certain night.

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Speaker 1: Who probably wasn't expected though not like one of the biges.

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Speaker 4: It's never it's never who I'm not expecting because every

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Speaker 4: time I played, I always had to guard the big

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Speaker 4: name guy, right, whether it was Kobe or whoever it was.

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Speaker 4: Damn man, I would say k D the first time

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Speaker 4: that I lined up against him, man, just because to me,

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Speaker 4: he's so disrespectful with his game because he's seven feet

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Speaker 4: and he can like shoot over anybody, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean. So he'd be like, yo, good ded, like

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Speaker 4: like what can you do? He shooting fadaways off one

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Speaker 4: leg and all you can do is look over at

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Speaker 4: the bench and be like your guard.

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Speaker 2: Him, look at him crazy, like you to come track.

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Speaker 4: I said, I said the same ship.

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Speaker 1: Okaydy you were you six seven? I was six five

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Speaker 1: six six, ok. Don't look at me like that. But

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Speaker 1: don't understand when he's seven feet. Once he gets to

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Speaker 4: And raise up you with you just gotta hope we missed.

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Speaker 2: And he's just like, yeah, I don't really see none

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Speaker 4: You gotta hope he missed.

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Speaker 2: Yo, this q Rich Dniles with the Knuckleheads.

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Speaker 1: Tuned in with my man Jimmy Buckets in the building

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Speaker 1: specially yes, Philadelphia seventy six is.

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Speaker 2: Chopping it up with is keeping it real?

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Speaker 1: Gosh, come on, this is q Rich and d Miles

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Speaker 1: and Knuckleheads.

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Speaker 2: We coach you push it. That's when I knew. I

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Speaker 2: was like, I'm a rep. This is fact finder right here.

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Speaker 2: This is a story that people don't know. Can't call

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Speaker 2: me soft and you can't disrespect where I'm from I

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Speaker 2: did deal with a lot of losers and that just sucked.

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Speaker 4: Now, I got your cracks.

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Speaker 2: We come from an authentic old jeek standpoint, but it's

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Speaker 2: always good vibe. Yo, what are y'all doing here?

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Speaker 1: I thought I was just coming over to watch the game,

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Speaker 1: and you guys got a microphone set up in the backyard,

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Speaker 1: and okay, I like it.

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Speaker 2: I like it. I like that Buckets the nickname.

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Speaker 3: You had Buckets the nickname before you got Chicago him.

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Speaker 2: You got to do that, like getting all the Buckets.

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Speaker 4: I know, I wasn't gonna lie and sayd I had

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Speaker 4: it beforehand. Now it was like Stacey King.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, like.

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Speaker 3: Chicago the program, and you know, I didn't hear Jimmy Buckets.

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, I'm like, I'm like, he nice

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Speaker 3: and all that stuff. And then you know, I hear

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Speaker 3: the homies in Chicago and they be like, yeah, you're

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Speaker 3: talking about Jimmy Buckets from the program, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: The same dude? Like no, that's his name, Bummy Buckets.

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Speaker 2: So gave you that. That's what's up.

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Speaker 4: And it stuck with me a little bit ever since.

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Speaker 4: I take it.

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Speaker 3: Nickname, I committed to Saint John's Q, committed to DePaul.

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Speaker 3: I got sucked in by midnight madness. What was the

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Speaker 4: I want as good as y'all be quiet.

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Speaker 1: See look, yes you was. I was about to say,

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Speaker 1: you know, speaking not only that. You know you went

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Speaker 1: to you win' Juco first, you in a different route,

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Speaker 1: told you I wasn't about to get the.

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Speaker 2: Hate, but you was. It's definitely coming. I wasn't going there.

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Speaker 4: It's a long story, but you know, to cut it

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Speaker 4: this guy named Joe Folks who had already committed to

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Speaker 4: You know, Juco was tough, like dogg eat dog. Man,

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Speaker 4: like everybody trying to get to the next level. So

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Speaker 4: me and it's Joe Folks, we ended up being roommates.

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Speaker 4: You know, later on we ended up being the two

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Speaker 4: best players on the team. But you know, I come

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Speaker 4: out the first game and I scored thirty three. I

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Speaker 4: it's not a fluke. I come out the next game.

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Speaker 4: I was like, man, all right, let's see if last

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Speaker 4: you know, maybe I can't hold my own. Buzz came

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Speaker 4: yah yah yah yanda. And then one day, uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: I would want to come you to come play for me.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, man, get out of here. Man, Krean ain't

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. State in school back when

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Speaker 4: And I'm so I'm like, man, a good dude. But

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Speaker 4: I mean, Crean is there, like your assistant coach. Dude,

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Speaker 4: Cream leaves go to Indiana, Buzz gets the job. I'm

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Speaker 4: the first person he calls, like he was always. He

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Speaker 4: So you know, without even visiting, I went to Marquette.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even know that. I didn't know where. I

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Speaker 4: I didn't know where Milwaukee was. I know what state

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Speaker 4: went to Marquette awaken like I was in Houston basketball

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Speaker 4: like ship, I was in Wesley Matthews cause it stealing

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Speaker 4: all his jackets, bro like, because I didn't have nothing.

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Speaker 4: Literally slippers, basketball shorts, white teas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the walks terrible.

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Speaker 4: So that's that's how I ended up over the crazy.

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Speaker 4: But that's what's up.

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Speaker 2: That's cool. So when you got to school, what was

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Speaker 4: How was that absolute fucking worse fucking worse?

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Speaker 2: So so wait, Buzz was loving you. He was the

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Speaker 4: He kept it real with me.

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Speaker 4: He said, hey, when you get the ball, throw it

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Speaker 4: fucking Dominic James Wesley Matthews as our hair, Jerod McNeill.

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Speaker 4: And so when I got in, he played me because

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Speaker 4: So that's how I made my mark and Marquette basketball,

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Speaker 4: and that's how he kept me on the floor. He

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Speaker 4: was like, Jimmy, go get his extra possessions. He'll take

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Speaker 4: a charge here and there offense. Everybody going to get it.

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Speaker 4: You're not worry about them shooting it because he gonna

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Speaker 4: give it to one of those four acts. I started.

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Speaker 4: They call it a Jamie's bunch. He was the GA

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Speaker 4: him early work on all of this stuff, the fundamentals.

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, and this motherfucker buzz used to.

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Speaker 4: Dip, cuss me out, dip all in my fucking face

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Speaker 4: throwing balls.

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Speaker 2: Like Jimmy, what the fuck was that?

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Speaker 4: I was like, yo, But then again I'd be looking

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Speaker 4: that's when I started to realize that that levels and

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Speaker 3: Like who I'm cool to talk about, Like because I

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Speaker 4: First off, that's hard to do averaging twenty in the league, man,

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Speaker 3: But you were a hooper, like because I didn't work

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Speaker 4: to think that I've still been playing away since.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you see your points of where you can get

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Speaker 4: Us easy, but you can get you can get about that.

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Speaker 1: On, stop stop it. If you're a shooter stopping everybody.

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Speaker 1: Everybody know I had the lunch crib. First of all,

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Speaker 2: I agree with that then inside the bucket.

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Speaker 4: And transition you no bucket, no, you know.

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Speaker 2: But like by game like that, that that helps you.

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Speaker 3: People don't know that goes into everaging twenty. Knowing how

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Speaker 4: Let's start your confidence quick seeing the ball go through

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Speaker 1: Oh man, jumping out working you need that one right

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Speaker 4: See the ball going. Man, That's that's how the scores do.

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Speaker 2: Like for Harden, he can travel now he can do

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Speaker 1: Step back, step back, and just like as if he

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Speaker 4: Who travels or not, that's still a tough as shot

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Speaker 4: It's doubles, triple step back. I don't care a step

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Speaker 2: With nobody no more.

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Speaker 4: I'm done right there, and that that's that's that's where

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Speaker 2: I can't touch them. Like what I'm gonna do. I'm

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Speaker 4: A little bit, but a little bit. But just think

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Speaker 4: Let's get that out the way. Now you're just gonna

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Speaker 4: y'all used to fuck people up back in the route

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Speaker 2: Man, no layups.

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Speaker 4: We're not giving you no fucking layers. Get about that.

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Speaker 3: Coming with all my might, trying to dunk a horse

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Speaker 3: And it's five of us twenty one and under playing

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Speaker 3: know where you got your competitive is to always compete

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Speaker 3: you made him earn everything he got exactly.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. I'm not going back to

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00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,400
Speaker 4: the like how I used to live. That ship is out,

436
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 4: that's it's out. But my my competitive edge, that shit

437
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,120
Speaker 4: comes from the fact that nothing was given to me. Man,

438
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 4: nothing I had to go to junior college. I had

439
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 4: nowhere else to go, like, and then when I got

440
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,880
Speaker 4: to Marquette, they was like, Yo, this mo fucking' gonna

441
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 4: make it. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna show you.

442
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 4: That's where it come from. Like I I wasn't that good,

443
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 4: so I know what the work can get you. So

444
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 4: that's where my competitive edge from. Like I don't I

445
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 4: don't care if you was a make dollar All American

446
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 4: and that judition. We all bleed the same fact and

447
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 4: when we all got to tire, our shoes up the same.

448
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 4: Unless you wear velcrow, then you just in there a

449
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,360
Speaker 4: stap over. But other than that, man, we're gonna we're

450
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 4: gonna go at it. You don't scare me nothing. I

451
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 4: don't care how big your name is, what your contract is.

452
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, you're gonna have to

453
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 4: do that. Motherfuckers playing after the day like it's a

454
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 4: price on this head. See them and be like, man,

455
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 4: I see I won't say it, but that's why I

456
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 4: play the game. As I tell everybody, like, I don't

457
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 4: do it for the fame. I don't do it for

458
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 4: the money. I don't do it for nothing. The only

459
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 4: reason that I do it is so when I go

460
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 4: up against the guys that you could call out, they're

461
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 4: gonna be like that motherfucker go.

462
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Speaker 1: Respect fact that everybody could say whatever, but like you

463
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Speaker 1: don't even know. It's just like when you beat through,

464
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Speaker 1: Like the media can say whatever, as long as when

465
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 1: you see that dude he shoots you that look and

466
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: he like here we go, I gotta I got something.

467
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: I gotta bring my lunch tonight. Like that's the respect

468
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 1: that we all want as hoopers and competitors. Like it

469
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: don't matter what the outside world think they're paying. Like

470
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: we all know when they see when just in that battle,

471
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: how they react and they like you know that they

472
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: getting pushed the limit.

473
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 4: That's that's what respect you want to you know before

474
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 4: the game, you that's what you look across that whether

475
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 4: it rush PG Brown and they hit you.

476
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 2: With the yes go yeah.

477
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 4: I'm telling you That's why I play the game like

478
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 4: I don't play it for no other reason.

479
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: Man.

480
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 4: And you know guys talk. Guys know when they be

481
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 4: like man, he a fucking clown. Nobody like motherfuckers know

482
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 4: you know you know what I'm saying.

483
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: We know, like.

484
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 4: Come on, like our eyes just want you to be

485
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 4: like Yo, I respect him, but he played hard. I

486
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 4: know he gonna be in there. He's gonna make it

487
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 4: tough for me tonight. That's that's why I put against

488
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Speaker 4: the one thing that translate all in.

489
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying generations from You know, I

490
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: don't care when you play, and that's one thing that

491
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: we respect about you and the way you play. We

492
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: feel like you cut from the same cloth. I think

493
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Speaker 1: that's why you brought up the story about how we

494
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: came in and the way we competed and winning.

495
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Speaker 2: Whoever, However, it wasn't no.

496
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 1: Disrespecting person to fight if we got a fight, but

497
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: we but we coming. We're trying to make us flash.

498
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: Like Yo, them boys told them boys out there.

499
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: We want everybody to know and we want everybody to

500
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: see that we ain't scared. We ain't running from it.

501
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: But hey, we here, you know what I'm saying, and like,

502
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: we ain't backing down like whatever.

503
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 4: I like that, And I just told this story the

504
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 4: other day whenever I came into the league. MVPD rows

505
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 4: Defense Player of the Year, Joe Kim All Star, Lou

506
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 4: Booze rip all of them guys, and the way that

507
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 4: they used to talk to each other in practice is

508
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 4: like damn you know, like if you can talk to

509
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 4: MVPD Rose like that, I know you're gonna fuck me up.

510
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 4: And when I do something wrong, you know what I mean.

511
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 4: So that's what I came into, Like you're gonna be

512
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 4: brutally honest in between these lines because we all trying

513
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 4: to win. We all want each other to be successful,

514
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 4: and I got to know what you're doing so this

515
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 4: guy can know what I'm doing and what I'm supposed

516
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 4: to do. So you're talking and all the time, it's

517
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 4: not gonna be like a hey, can you please? You

518
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 4: don't have time for that. I feel like this before

519
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 4: there's twenty thousand people in the arena, you can't hear it.

520
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: I feel like now it's everything is, hey, don't do that.

521
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to talk, Like come on, Like.

522
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, I'm gonna say it. Get right to

523
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 4: the point. I'm gonna raise my voice a little bit,

524
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 4: might put a few f bombs in that, but it's overweight.

525
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: We all trying to work toward the same goal. But

526
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: like that's we all say that, and that sound we

527
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: all come that's.

528
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: What the NBA is.

529
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: It's a it's it's people from every different walk of

530
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: life you could think of. As long as we all

531
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: respecting everybody each other. You know what I'm saying, the

532
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: way we come from and the way we are.

533
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 2: Like, man, what you're tripping for?

534
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: You already like everybody had a coach or a grade

535
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: school coach. Hey, you coach to be going off, but

536
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: you know he mean, well, he loved the hell out

537
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: of the kids and everything.

538
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 2: Don't do that. Don't be sensitive.

539
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: Like I feel like now everything is like because it's

540
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: so much access and it's so much you could.

541
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: See everything, like everything is so sensitive. Don't do that.

542
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,719
Speaker 2: Don't that was Did you see that? That was? Oh

543
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 2: my Like come on man.

544
00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 4: But I mean at the same time, that's the world now.

545
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 4: Social media ruins everything. Oh my god. You can't say

546
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 4: do act, go nothing nothing. O can't social media.

547
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: Taken out of context. They don't even have the proper

548
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: context for things. They just see a patriot, go craze.

549
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 4: So when there's a gap, they just gonna insert whatever

550
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 4: the hell they want.

551
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: To answert Like, I don't know what's going on.

552
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm gonna get that I'm that should be

553
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 4: juicy as hell to.

554
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: That's the thing I'm sitting there sometimes like sometimes it's

555
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: themselves coming out. But I have no idea if this

556
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: is even remotely too, but if it is, like who

557
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: came up with this creativity of this story? I'm telling you,

558
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: But it's not to be like who sat down and

559
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: thought of this? Like this is some you might be

560
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: going to go through movies or something. You just creating

561
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: stories Like.

562
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 4: It's like, damn, it gets real, I'm telling you, and

563
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 4: it should be funny, especially when it comes to me

564
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 4: because I don't read nothing in the media. I promise

565
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 4: I don't read nothing, but I know what's going on

566
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 4: somebody always yeah, yeah, so I know what's going on.

567
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 4: And my thing is if you know me, then you

568
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 4: know that some of the ship that people be talking

569
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 4: about it it's like yo, he don't he not that

570
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 4: now that part okay, but like let's stop stop and

571
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 4: if you know me, you know where my heart is,

572
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean and how I do really

573
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 4: play to win like that. That's the only reason why

574
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 4: I haven't won on any level. I can't say that

575
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 4: I'm a winner. I don't want my career to end

576
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 4: like that. Can you say that I'm a loser, No,

577
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 4: I'm somewhere in there.

578
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: But you know, because man, you know how much you

579
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: overcome to get.

580
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 4: To Yeah, but I want, like give me like a championship,

581
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 4: bring whether it be a high schoolology.

582
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm a person that didn't win a championship in the NBA,

583
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: but I know I think what made me a you

584
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Not like you say, not a loser.

585
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Everybody can't be like a

586
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: world champion. Definitely you should want that. You should not

587
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: ever stop working for But like for me, I know

588
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: you're not a loser because of the like he said,

589
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: what you've overcome and the way you work at it.

590
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

591
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: Like if you was out there a dog and it

592
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: got a bag and set on your butt and just

593
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: look like you know what I'm saying, clicking to check,

594
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: Like Noah, you maxing out, You trying to leave it

595
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: all out there. Anybody that's not trying to max out

596
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: with you, you know what I'm saying. So that's all

597
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: you can do. You can only put everything you got

598
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: into it, and then sometimes the chips fall this way

599
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: sometimes they don't. Everybody knowing this league, in all sports,

600
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: to win a world championship, it ain't just it ain't

601
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: just hard work after this luck, it's things happening, things

602
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: going your way.

603
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: It's all types of things. So that's like one of

604
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 2: the hardest things in the world to do.

605
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: So you should never feel like you, you know what

606
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like a loser, like you see and listening

607
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: to Charles and all them, all the jokes, but like

608
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: everybody know Barty's not a loser or or you know

609
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: them guys that didn't mean like it's some crazy killer

610
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: players that didn't win a chip.

611
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: And like unless you give it your all every night,

612
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: if you put it all on the line, you put

613
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,959
Speaker 3: the work in and all that stuff, and you can

614
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: walk away from it, you know, with your chest up high.

615
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 4: You know what I'm do that count.

616
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: But we all probably because everybody don't be in position

617
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: to win championships. Everybody don't don't get a chance to

618
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 3: be on the team. You got some players that play

619
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: for bad teams their whole career. Every team that I

620
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 3: went to my whole career was about starting over, So

621
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: I ain't get a chance to play in the playoffs. Man,

622
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: I used to see players in the playoffs and like

623
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: I know him better than and he got the opportunity

624
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: to play in the playoffs.

625
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 2: In the world is looking at an opportunity, But I can't.

626
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: I can't dwell on it or beat myself up about it.

627
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: I just got to play the cars that they gave me.

628
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said you from Tmwall, like you being.

629
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: I would say, like a different type of superstar singing

630
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: country music, not being you know what I'm saying.

631
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: Like being afraid. Yeah, like not being afraid of whatever that.

632
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: Entail, like you do you whether it's like I didn't

633
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: see you while now going on the little motion adventures

634
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 1: in the wildlife and falling off the good nee Am

635
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: I am?

636
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: I am?

637
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: Who I am? Uh?

638
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: You're gonna like it, You're gonna hate it, But I'm

639
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: still gonna be me. I'm not I'm not changing who

640
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: I am. I may change the clothes that I wear,

641
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 4: the city I live in, but we do the same stuff.

642
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 4: Like if you're around the house, you ain't even want

643
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: to hang out with us. All we're gonna do is

644
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 4: play Domino's you know, some cards, watch the same movie

645
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 4: over and over and over again. Right, So it's like

646
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 4: that that's who he is, and then he gonna work

647
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 4: on this game. That's me in a nutshell though, man, Like,

648
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 4: I really don't give a fuck what anybody thinks of me.

649
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: I really don't because I'm comfortable in my own skin.

650
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 4: And uh, I like who I am. I like where

651
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 4: I'm at, you know. And it's like I say it

652
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 4: all the time, like if you know me, if you

653
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: around me, you know who I am.

654
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

655
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 4: That's like every time I come to Orlando for me

656
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: and you link like, yo, what's good?

657
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

658
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 4: Like now whenever I'm in your city, like I'm like, yo,

659
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 4: what's good, Let's let's go have a dream, let's go

660
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 4: have lunch or something like that. If you're my people,

661
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 4: you're my people. You're not my people. You don't know me,

662
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 4: so I would expect you to fill a boy, why.

663
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: I get it.

664
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: I understand it.

665
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at you for it sounds exactly like us.

666
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 4: That's what it is when you understand that some people,

667
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: like people don't like you for no reason at all,

668
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 4: and people gonna hate you for no reason. I even

669
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 4: know you.

670
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just like they do. They throw rocks and Jesus.

671
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 4: As a perfect man. Like I know they gonna hate

672
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 4: my ask, I know they gonna hate me.

673
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: You know you came from a property environment, you know,

674
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: like us, and I know like when I you be

675
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: around people, we're all from We in Saint Louis the

676
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: foaltest people than being in Chicago, which is four hours

677
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: Memphis which is another four hours, and getting a chance

678
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: to play basketball in this basketball taking me around the

679
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: world and seeing stuff that people in my family would

680
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 3: imagine seeing and some.

681
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: Type crazy man, it's crazy all just people.

682
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: Just you never know who would you will be with

683
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: some type of I'm telling you, or or I got

684
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: Kobe number, I can talk to Kobe or or I

685
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: think I think Mark Waller.

686
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the relationship you had with them, I was.

687
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 4: I was with him last night.

688
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: Like that's like somebody that we like all saw on TV.

689
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: Like like you like he'd been a superstar. Here you

690
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: get to know him and be get a relationship.

691
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: Like no coming from where you come. You came from

692
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: to be and like the luxury of all the stuff

693
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: that you had, the luxury and like you say, for you,

694
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 2: you you was a person who doubted yourself.

695
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: You didn't see this like some people at a young ay,

696
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: like they know he was like he was on sports illustrate,

697
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: Like for you, you had to go to.

698
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 4: The sports illustration No, none of this. Worried about it. No, man,

699
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 4: I thank God every single morning and every night for

700
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 4: the life that I have, for the people that I

701
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 4: have life man, and to know how fortunate and blessed

702
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: that I really am. It's incredible, Like there has to

703
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 4: like God did this. You can't make the story up

704
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: of where I come from and how I got to

705
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 4: where I am and the people that I'm able to

706
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 4: break bread with and bring along with me like nah,

707
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 4: like we're all unique and we all have our own stories.

708
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 4: But for me or for the next guy, like come o,

709
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 4: know that it's not like that. So every day I

710
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: wake up and I know that I could call this

711
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 4: person and I can afford this food, or I can

712
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 4: go to this country. Man, I didn't even know where

713
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 4: the hell pairs, Like I never looked at a map

714
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 4: to be like, yo, Paris is in France and that's here.

715
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 4: Or they're the one that gifted us stuff statue of liberty.

716
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, like, I don't know all

717
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 4: of that, and I'm going over there and they're teaching.

718
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, never in a million years when I'm

719
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 4: back in Tomball.

720
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: What about what your friends and family that's been in

721
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: this small town on their whole life and they starting

722
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: to experience it with you eating the better foods.

723
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 4: You know, I tell you one thing, you know your country,

724
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 4: your country. You're not going for none of that. You

725
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 4: want your steak well done. You're not going to media, Jimmy,

726
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 4: what what you got over that?

727
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: Jimmy.

728
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: My favorite is when somebody says shipt. No, that's the

729
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 4: that's the most country ship to me, Like, you know

730
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 4: how you want you you want your steak medium shipping

731
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 4: off well done. Like that ship is like if you country,

732
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: you can't help.

733
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: But the big country bro shipping.

734
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 4: It's some of the country ship I've ever heard of

735
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 4: my life.

736
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: But.

737
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 4: For real and uh, but I'm glad that I get

738
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 4: to bring some of my people along with me. And

739
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 4: it's hard because like you can't you can't.

740
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: Get used to it.

741
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: I always tell everybody that the life that I live,

742
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 4: that we're able to live. It's it's a fairy tale,

743
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: like it's a utopia, like there is something wrong, but

744
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 4: there's a lot of right. And too much of any

745
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: good thing is a bad thing. I tell everybody that, man.

746
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 4: So you know, whether it's the jewelry or the food,

747
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 4: or the women, or the way we travel, whatever it is, Man,

748
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 4: at any point in time, it could be gone. At

749
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 4: any point of time, it could be gone. So you

750
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 4: have to enjoy it. You have to live your life,

751
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: but know that it ain't it's not gonna be like

752
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 4: this forever. That's in fact, that's the hardest thing to

753
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: try to get family to understand. You know, I still

754
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 4: say thank you. I'm still very grateful for everything that

755
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 4: everybody does for me. So when somebody and that's why

756
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: I keep the people around, I keep around, they'll let

757
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 4: me know, like, motherfucker, that's some bullshit.

758
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: That's not you.

759
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 4: That's what I.

760
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 2: Like about people.

761
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, That's what I like about my people, is they

762
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 4: gonna let me know when I'm not being me like

763
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 4: I expect. When I do some bullshit, I want you

764
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 4: to call and be like, Yo, motherfucker, that's some bullshit

765
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 4: that you just did. Like I have my guys like that.

766
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 4: They can talk to me just like I would talk

767
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 4: to them, We're supposed to let it go. And it

768
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: feel good when when you know that person always got

769
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 4: your best. Yeah, and it's okay to say I'm sorry,

770
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 4: it's okay.

771
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: To be wrong.

772
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: All of us been in this life, been in the

773
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: league doing all that, and we've had peers, teammates, opponents,

774
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, and we see, well,

775
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: they got the yes men around them, and you you

776
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: they they the ones that just oblivious, got their head

777
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: in the clouds.

778
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 2: Think, they never wrong.

779
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: Think everything they do is the coldest, and they perfect

780
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: in this because all of their partners around them it's

781
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: yes being.

782
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: They eat when you eat, they do what you do.

783
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: They gotta wait for you on everything.

784
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: It's like, that's that's the bull, you know what I'm saying,

785
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: Like you say that, we see that exists around and

786
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: like it's always cool for me to hear because I

787
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: feel like that's how we are, That's how we always were.

788
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: We ain't never have people around us that was telling

789
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: us bs or pumping our heads up. And that's why

790
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: I feel like we were able to stay grounded within

791
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: all of this. We never got to the point where

792
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: we was feeling ourselves for thinking we was better than

793
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: anybody else because we in the NBA were making some money.

794
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 3: Like I said, little the people that man I love

795
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: trying to play my own boys.

796
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: And we've seen all of these things happen and it's

797
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: like yo, like I didn't pay and YouTube, we didn't

798
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: been around him j And he's the goat. He's the biggest,

799
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: most money whatever you want to say, he's that. And

800
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: like when you check with him and you see how cool,

801
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: how respectful, how mannerable, how you thank people, how he

802
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: looking out, how sincere and all these different things like

803
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: can't nobody else trip, can't nobody else trip?

804
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 4: You know, you know the part that I don't like

805
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: about that, and it's it's tough, and social media does

806
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 4: it a lot. I think you can name whoever, throw

807
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 4: out a name, throw out a name, good dude, Mike, Steph, KD,

808
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 4: whoever it may be. We're all human, so we all

809
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 4: have bad days. We all have something that goes on

810
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 4: in life that you can't tell. But just because like

811
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 4: they don't want to deal with that, right man, you

812
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 4: ever know what's going on in my life? And whoever's

813
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 4: like so just because that one time, like it said, man,

814
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 4: not today. They're not an asshole. Man, you don't know

815
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: what's going on in this person's life. That's the part

816
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 4: that bothers me, Like I get it that we're famous

817
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 4: that make money or that, or faces on this billboard

818
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 4: and that TV. But at the end of the day, man,

819
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: you got to understand that motherfuckers is human.

820
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: And go through life.

821
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 4: We deal with real life just like And the worst

822
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: part about it is our ship is everywhere. So if

823
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 4: something goes on in our life, hell TMZ, it is

824
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: on your website, on your TV show, coming to a

825
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: station near you, you gonna know what's going on, you think, man,

826
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 4: especially if your name is, if your face is on

827
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 4: that billboard or you all.

828
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: And then the part they don't understand is that us

829
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: being humans, we got the things that even with us

830
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: being on the n NBA on all that, it's still

831
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: things that happen in our lives that you don't know

832
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: about it. It could be affecting up that we're going

833
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: through the world, like if we got a family member,

834
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: there's something going on in anything. God for being anything

835
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: like that that we've all been through in different scenarios,

836
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: like in the world. Don't know that and we in

837
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: a crazy bad mood or dealing with it emotionally like

838
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: it's hard to do because this.

839
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 4: Platform just said, I just said, you know, the game

840
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 4: is mental, like think if something is in your head

841
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 4: and like you just like damn, I gotta think about

842
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: this and I gotta play through that when my mentals

843
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 4: already messed up. It's hard to do. That's that's the

844
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,479
Speaker 4: part of the game that you know the fans can't see,

845
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 4: is that, man, it's a mental grind. Your body. You

846
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: can get over that physically, like get in the ice,

847
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 4: get in the ice bag, get the massage, just like.

848
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: Your mental can be so torn and exhausted, and then it.

849
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 4: Just keeps adding on to it like damn. Mentally, Now,

850
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 4: I gotta remember what each one of these players do

851
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 4: on top of that at the crib is this, and

852
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 4: I gotta deal with this person and that person who

853
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 4: got wives.

854
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: They have to know how to manage that with with

855
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 3: with the players and all that stuff going through story.

856
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 4: I'm telling you that that part of it, that human

857
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: aspect of the game and of life as a whole.

858
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: It's hard me and you you know, coming from where

859
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 3: we came from, we were Jordan's.

860
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 2: We praised Mike.

861
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 3: Mike was just everything to us and we had the

862
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: opportunity to be with Jordan Brand when a lot of

863
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 3: players wasn't with Jordan's brand, and it was like a

864
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 3: different day and Asian era.

865
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: Come from where you're coming from, I know, like with

866
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: when you was younger, I.

867
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 4: Don't even remember that, how are you talking about? What

868
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 4: are you talking to?

869
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 3: And just be part of man Jordan's family, Jordan Brand

870
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: to go to all goats, you know what I'm saying, Like,

871
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: how do that feel like? Explaining that more explaining how

872
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: you got signed to it, and explain how hype he

873
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: was about.

874
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: Our super hip.

875
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 4: You know, growing up we couldn't even afford Jordan's, so

876
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 4: we just looked at it the same thing, right and

877
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: wish like one day one day, I'm I'm telling you,

878
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 4: so whenever I did leave a former brand that I

879
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 4: was with, motherfucking you know, I had the opportunity to

880
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: to sign on the jump Man and uh man, it's

881
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 4: been it's been a great experience. I've met, you know,

882
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 4: incredible people, Mike himself and like he was saying, he's

883
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 4: just an incredible human being. He's does It's like a family.

884
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: Man.

885
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 4: It's everybody is in constant contact. And you know, it's

886
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 4: great when we all get to get together over the summer.

887
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 4: But just to know I used to grow up like man,

888
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 4: One of these days, I just want to a pair

889
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: a pair of.

890
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: Jordan's, you know, and for you, you like one of

891
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: the dudes. You know that they freak stuff for they

892
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: show love like he don't just.

893
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: Get the little running the mills stuff to come out.

894
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: He get rare like they send him. They're gonna throw

895
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: them some retros or some of this.

896
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 4: Man, Like, you don't got it like y'all had it though, y'all, Yeah,

897
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 4: y'all had it.

898
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: I know how they like, how they overload. Yeah, it's love, man,

899
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: your everyday wardrobe Georgia, Yeah you.

900
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 4: Did buy something else? Look, And then I get to

901
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: you know, lace my people like people. Yeah, and you

902
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 4: know the organizations that I'm with, Like, I think that

903
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 4: the people behind our organization are so fucking important.

904
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: Man.

905
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 4: They'll try to speak and know everybody name, whether it

906
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 4: be the ticket sales or the pr shout out the

907
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 4: pack and Paris, I raaltherly don't focus you like that.

908
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it on here, but you're my guy

909
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 4: Monday and Thursdays. So it's it's crazy because like, I'm

910
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: grateful for those guys, like because they got to deal

911
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 4: with everybody, whether it be media, us as players, fans.

912
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 4: So I want them to feel as appreciated and wanted

913
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 4: as possible, because that's that's what any is. You just

914
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 4: want to be wanted, appreciate it. You make it feel

915
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 4: like important. You know what I'm saying. I love the

916
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 4: people behind the scenes of everything that like y'all don't

917
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 4: get y'all's name on the billboard or on a little

918
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 4: banner at the game, but y'all do everything to make

919
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 4: sure that we're good, Like it's the least.

920
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 1: That we don't work without them. It don't don't work,

921
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: like names like I don't care what's going on. None

922
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: of this stuff don't work if everybody ain't doing their part.

923
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 4: I couldn't do it. I'm telling you. They be typing

924
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 4: stuff on computers and doing stuff with cameras. Like, man,

925
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 4: I can't lift this mic up and down and tear

926
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 4: the truth.

927
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: Now, I'm like that too.

928
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: I could talk to the from the from the custodian

929
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: to the to the CEO at the top and be

930
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: cool and make them feel personal with me when we

931
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: go from locker to locker, from team to team, or

932
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: the ball guys, the little guys is helping them. I'm

933
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: gonna have jokes and nicknames for them to make them

934
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: feel like I'm at least paying them some attention and

935
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: not just.

936
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: The human Yeah.

937
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 4: My thing is they're fans of the game.

938
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: Huge.

939
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: They some of the biggest fans. Like they'd be so

940
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: hyped to see come in like leading a pair of shoes.

941
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: They fall out, but they die, you eat them a

942
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: pair of kicks or anything. They watching the game.

943
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: Man, let me hear you ever get home.

944
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: And they'd be getting there early, Like, man, they got

945
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 2: such and such coming.

946
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 4: They know this guy report before we you know who

947
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 4: you got tonight? Right he left you go left that

948
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 4: he hit that double step back. Youre talking about James,

949
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 4: You're talking about like they know, they know. So I'm

950
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 4: grateful for those people too.

951
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: Hey, so, what was like the first thing you got

952
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: with like I'm in the league, Like, hey, I'm about

953
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: to I ain't never thought I was.

954
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 4: What was the first thing I got or when was it?

955
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: Like the biggest purchase, like no house or calling on

956
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: like a big purchase.

957
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 4: Something like right away or when when is the moment

958
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 4: it was like damn.

959
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: When you when you yeah, when it was something like

960
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: you know what, like this ain't the need? This is

961
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: like one like like well it was like when you

962
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: got your first big one where it was like, well

963
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: I could go do some stunt tasting like someth where

964
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I never thought I'd be able to

965
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: spend this money on something like this, uh, to tear

966
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: the truth, But we all did it.

967
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: I know I wouldn't like I probably won't never do that.

968
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 4: I know I would probably say it was after the Olympics.

969
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 4: You know, I've been in the league a while, but

970
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 4: that that Olympic summer and winning gold and using that

971
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: company to treat yourself, using that.

972
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: Company, now that's what time out. He got, the part,

973
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: he got in that company, her he got that that comedy.

974
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 4: But I had I had a little bit of money

975
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 4: at the time, and to tear the truth coming into

976
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 4: the league, who is reprip was telling me. So it

977
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 4: was playing bu right, right, but hold on, hear me out,

978
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: though hear me out. We're playing bull right, And so

979
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 4: I'm a competitor. So I never wanted to get out,

980
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 4: and I was getting was beat my head to the

981
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 4: white ball gavel. So it was like, yo, let me

982
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 4: tell you something. You know, feeling the rip was a

983
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 4: big help to me. Now your pocket is not like

984
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 4: everybody else pockets.

985
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: At his table.

986
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 4: Get out or don't play. Are you're gonna be in debt?

987
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 4: So I started, uh what you call it, and paid

988
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 4: attention to it. So now I'm going through the league

989
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 4: and I'm paying attention. I was like, yo, I can't

990
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 4: do that. I don't have that. I can't do that.

991
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: I don't have that.

992
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 4: We want to go medal. So my financial advisor says,

993
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 4: I'll give you. I ain't gonna save the amount of money,

994
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 4: but he says, I'll give you the amount of money.

995
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 4: I don't care how you You can give it away

996
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 4: if you want to, but go do what you're gonna

997
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 4: do with it. So I, uh, I got some cars

998
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 4: and some jewelry that was.

999
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: Read.

1000
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 4: So that was that was a big person. That was great,

1001
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 4: good time. I spend it all in one day. You know,

1002
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 4: it don't take me that long.

1003
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: Spend some bread. You know what I'm saying, don't take.

1004
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 4: Me that before man, and I got I got another moment,

1005
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 4: which was which was great too. We was in was

1006
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: in Paris, and I was with you know, like I said, now,

1007
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 4: I'm fortunate to be able to be friends with d

1008
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 4: Wade with Mail and we're all in Paris at fashion week,

1009
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 4: let alone. I never thought that I would be there

1010
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 4: with those guys in Paris at fashion week. I get

1011
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 4: traded to Minnesota and I got a trade kicker, and

1012
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 4: uh so my agent picks up the phone and he's

1013
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: calling me and I we're sitting there and we're playing

1014
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 4: spades and d Wade sit next to me. You know,

1015
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: we're teammates Chicago at the time. My agent calls. He

1016
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 4: texted me the whole time, but I don't want them

1017
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 4: to think I was cheating, so I want to check

1018
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: on my phone. I picked up the phone and say, yo,

1019
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 4: what's up. And my agent was like, you're finna get

1020
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 4: traded to Minnesota. So I'm tapped, da Yo, I finla

1021
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 4: get traded to Minnesota. He was like, man, shut the

1022
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 4: fuck up, no you're not. And he's playing cards and

1023
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: the TV he's on and you know, nowadays, as soon

1024
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: as something big happened is coming up on your fire.

1025
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 4: So I'm like, a man, I'm trying to tell you

1026
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 4: we're playing spades. And it was like, damn, you just

1027
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 4: got trades in Minnesota.

1028
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: I just fucking told you that.

1029
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 4: Like and so, you know, I get up talked to

1030
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 4: my agent. It was like, Yo, you gotta you got

1031
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 4: a trade kicker for X amount of dollars.

1032
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: Right.

1033
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: He was like, spend it all. Fuck it? And uh.

1034
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 4: So I go back to the table. I'm like, yo,

1035
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 4: you know, I just got traded, but I got a

1036
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 4: trade kicker. My agent said, fuck it, spend it because

1037
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 4: I bet dinner on you.

1038
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 2: Dinner on you. So I was like, okay, cool.

1039
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 4: So we're going to my one of my favorite restaurants

1040
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 4: that Mark Wahlberg introduced me to, Limon Louis and uh

1041
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 4: in Paris.

1042
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: So we going there. We did that. There's some we

1043
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: did that.

1044
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: We had a we had a night.

1045
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: Man.

1046
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 4: It was it was a good one.

1047
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: You know.

1048
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 4: It was the first time being traded, so I took

1049
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 4: it kind of hard, you know what I mean. But

1050
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: I was forcunate to be there with mellow in good

1051
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 4: spirits and it was like, look, man, just keep keep

1052
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 4: doing what you're doing. But we had we had a

1053
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 4: good night. We drunk a lot of wine, have some

1054
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 4: good food. That was That was the time that too

1055
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 4: Mellow snuck out with the best bottle too. I'm never

1056
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 4: forgiving him for that.

1057
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 2: He ain't. I still remember stay Mellow.

1058
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 3: Who did you see that you start patting your game off,

1059
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 3: you start seeing moves or he was like, man, I

1060
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: liked how he.

1061
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: Played Tracey McGray team.

1062
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 4: Problem. Probably yeah we are. Yeah I didn't. I didn't

1063
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 4: have to reguard team. And funny story is where was

1064
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 4: I at? I think he was in Atlanta at the time,

1065
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 4: and so I'm I'm in Chicago, marook and uh, you know,

1066
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 4: like teammate when he was in Houston or Atlanta whatever,

1067
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 4: Like he's my favorite player, and uh I sup him

1068
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 4: to the game one time, like this was up about

1069
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 4: like twenty and Tama was in the game for Atlanta.

1070
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: Coach.

1071
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 4: Look, yo, you got team Max. I'm like, what, like

1072
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 4: even though like there's fifty seconds left in the game

1073
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 4: and we're by twenty, I'm just like, damn, like ship

1074
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 4: that was a man. I had all your posters on

1075
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 4: my wall back, you know what I mean? Like you're

1076
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: telling me this who I get to guard or have

1077
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 4: to guard. But uh, that's who I'm out of my

1078
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 4: game after in high school, I would shoot just like

1079
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 4: he would shoot where his sneak is like he was, Yeah.

1080
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 2: He had a thirty. Yeah thirty is wrong with you? Yeah,

1081
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: thirty in his pocket any time he seen me. I've

1082
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: seen thirty man with ease too.

1083
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 4: Not saying that you can't guard him, but like he

1084
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 4: was a problem for everybody, including other people sitting at

1085
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 4: this table.

1086
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 2: If you switched out WARS, I feel like switch I

1087
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: had to go on straight up, and that's Wars. That's

1088
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: a problem.

1089
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 3: Like that was the problems that he had thirty on

1090
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 3: me and I block a shot for game for us

1091
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 3: to win the game. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1092
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 3: That's as a defender. You know, it's about one one possession,

1093
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 3: ain't about they don't get the ball so much so

1094
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 3: they're gonna score that. Yeah, yeah, you just gotta win

1095
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: the one that count.

1096
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: He was talking about like when when he gave you

1097
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: that look respect, I get that look respect from him.

1098
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: That's what that's it. I used to play him hard.

1099
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: You know when I all of them know because because

1100
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: you know me, I was really ready to get scrappy.

1101
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: So we know it was gonna be a war that

1102
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: way it was gonna I was gonna do that. I

1103
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: was gonna make it a war one way or the other.

1104
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: If he was way nicer than me, I was gonna

1105
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: go to my special move and just fil you real

1106
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: hard to try intimidate you and see what we was

1107
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: gonna get for.

1108
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: We wanted to just do some fun stuff about nineties.

1109
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 4: And now, okay, was it better in the nineties? So

1110
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 4: I gotta say nineties or now?

1111
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 2: Hit me hard cuts? Better in the nineties or better now?

1112
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say now, I'm gonna say now, I'm gonna

1113
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 4: say that exactly, and I'm one of them, so I

1114
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 4: gotta say, now, you know, relax, relax, I'm getting the

1115
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 4: haircut after this.

1116
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: What what what would you call that?

1117
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: Because like my fourteen years, he wants to do this

1118
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: with he he wants to want to cut the side

1119
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: I called him to Wakanda forevers.

1120
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what y'all, So what what what do

1121
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: you call it? Before? Wakanda?

1122
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 4: Before?

1123
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: But I didn't know what. I just called it nappy head.

1124
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: But it's like that Pops don't want to slap me

1125
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: upside my head. That tracked outside. That's wrong.

1126
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 4: I gotta go in now.

1127
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

1128
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 4: I like the I like to look, you know, people

1129
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 4: getting hair braided up top. None on the side, no more.

1130
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 4: I'm rocking with it now because I'm in with it now.

1131
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 4: I didn't do the hot tops.

1132
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: I didn't Now.

1133
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: It's kind of like y'all like they still retro and

1134
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: now too, so it's kind of all up.

1135
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel I mean, it all comes back around anyway.

1136
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 4: It's just like closed do so maybe in a couple

1137
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 4: of years we stop. You got the ball, you can't

1138
00:51:59,719 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 4: you can.

1139
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: I proudly wrapped the ball. Y'all. Don't wear the tight

1140
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: clothes though, like your man.

1141
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: Wadey like like, like I said, we talk about this

1142
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: the playing fashion.

1143
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: Was it better then or now?

1144
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 3: Now?

1145
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 4: Man, I want some big ass clothes. I'm not gonna

1146
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 4: they called skinny jeans now, bro.

1147
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: Y'all be wearing capris and cool lots and all type

1148
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: of stuff that Like I didn't come on.

1149
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: Man, Sam in colored and what like.

1150
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: But I feel me like way went straight future looking

1151
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like bro, like y'all did.

1152
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: Then I text him matter this what he hit me

1153
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: with I text, like, bro, what is you doing send

1154
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: on a picture?

1155
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: He like, I do it because I could do this. No,

1156
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: I'm not about That's.

1157
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 3: Not because.

1158
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: That he was saying, You're not just about to get

1159
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: away with like, I do it because I know this.

1160
00:52:55,080 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 4: Like he definitely said that, Like, man, it's.

1161
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: Crazy rap music in the nineties.

1162
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: Or now.

1163
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 4: I'm going in the nineties with that one is real rap.

1164
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 4: B You have some some people that was just going

1165
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 4: up and saying their names and songs too. It wasn't

1166
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 4: no subtle man.

1167
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: Your top fivel my.

1168
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 4: Top five albums, he asked me. He asked me, my

1169
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 4: top five albums, top five? First off, no genre, your

1170
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 4: top fives? Want I just got through talking about this

1171
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 4: other day, and you can say what you want, but

1172
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 4: you asked me the question. Justin Bieber's Purpose album is Hey,

1173
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 4: I don't give dann that you look away. I'm just

1174
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 4: saying he said, my top five outfe Ship Fire Lawn Hill.

1175
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm rolling fire. Luke Bryan.

1176
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 4: You know who Luke Brian is Country artists. He gotta

1177
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 4: crash my party. Tell you what, check it out that

1178
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 4: one fire. I actually like Drake's Take Care Of album

1179
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 4: I got one more. I got one more.

1180
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: I got one more. Who have been listening to is

1181
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: it a rap artist? Because I don't think you name

1182
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 2: it is my five. It's my five.

1183
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 4: Wayne Wayne, the whole carters. Yeah yeah, I would say

1184
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 4: the first one or the second one is it's my

1185
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 4: favorite one. So I put that in. You didn't get

1186
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: this out the way. Y'all didn't swave me to say

1187
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 4: that that was in there. I just had to remember

1188
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 4: yeah withah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, player's jewelry.

1189
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 2: Then on now.

1190
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 4: Then yeah, y'all was it was stupid. It's crazy.

1191
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 2: People was coming in with like come on dog remember

1192
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: keys dangs. He had his face piece.

1193
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 4: Like then y'all y'all used to do it.

1194
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: Uh.

1195
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 4: And it was funny because now when you look back

1196
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 4: at he be like that's just ridiculous and obnoxious. But

1197
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 4: you look back at it was like that's what That's

1198
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 4: what the times was.

1199
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: Hey, I had us tripping, bro I had.

1200
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 4: He set the tone. He set the tone. He I

1201
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 4: think he changed the game, like how Steph basically changed

1202
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 4: the game with shooting threes. He did it in the

1203
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 4: in the off the court way with the braids, with

1204
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 4: the jewelry, with all of that stuff, like a I

1205
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 4: did that?

1206
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: Speak speaking of that, like, so, who do you think

1207
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: had the bigger impact on the coach, like between.

1208
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: AI or Lebron? Hmmm, it's a tough one.

1209
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 1: Because it's it's different, but it's still huge on both hands.

1210
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's kind of different.

1211
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 2: That's a man.

1212
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 4: They both do so much.

1213
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: Man, That's what I'm saying, both doing this. It's in

1214
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: different ways, but if the impact is I.

1215
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 4: Don't think you can I don't think you can really

1216
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 4: pick one or the other. It's like the whole Kobe,

1217
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 4: MJ Lebron debate, Like I don't compare nobody just because like.

1218
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 2: So you can't pick one of them.

1219
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I can't pick one, but I don't

1220
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 4: compare like this person can do that and this person

1221
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 4: can do that. I can give you my opinion, but

1222
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 4: I I don't think that you can compare because I'm

1223
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 4: fortunate enough to be able to see Lebron do what

1224
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 4: Lebron is able to do and look back and be like, damn,

1225
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 4: MJ was a problem and I never had to guard

1226
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 4: like Kobe. Kobe, trust me, Kobe, I know I heard

1227
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1228
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 5: I never had the guard like dad either. Yeah, that's

1229
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 5: you see what I'm saying. Kobe the way, that's the

1230
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 5: top three shooting guards. Like when we got drafted, we

1231
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 5: two thousand drafts, so that's year one of the three, PA,

1232
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 5: So so trust me, like playing him. You remember the

1233
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 5: scene on Love and Basketball when she Garten it's like

1234
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 5: the Camra like, yeah, that's how it used to be,

1235
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 5: Like that garden at Kobe. That was the Kobe where

1236
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 5: it was like he'll do anything like for real. This

1237
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 5: to Kobe, that was wind.

1238
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: Mealing under the rim, shooting left hand, three doing anything

1239
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: like literally doing this was the most athlete.

1240
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 4: Like I never it was crazy, bro. So that's why

1241
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 4: I can't. I never compare the three, just like I

1242
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 4: can you. I can't pick you know who changed the

1243
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 4: culture in Ailum. Like, man, I'm grateful for both. I'm

1244
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 4: grateful for all three as a player, t Wade two

1245
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 4: and everybody else that I got a chance to play with,

1246
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 4: play against, or watch like It's just like, man, it's

1247
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 4: an honor to be able to see these guys do

1248
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 4: what they do night after night after night against the

1249
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 4: best against We got to stop this guy, you know

1250
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 4: what We're gonna double team. M damn double team. Not

1251
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 4: work your triple team ship that ship, empty the bench,

1252
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 4: everybody go try to start. You know what I'm saying,

1253
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 4: Like that'shit's crazy. I feel like you're a person as

1254
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 4: a defender. You didn't got a chance to play against

1255
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 4: these guys in their prime. Put them in or like

1256
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 4: who you would rather see, Like who's the easiest to

1257
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 4: who's the hardest to guard? I know all of them hard, yeah,

1258
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 4: but I won't know like just you don't have somebody

1259
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 4: coming on me trying to score fucking ninety, Like but

1260
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 4: he didn't put me over him. I'm gonna show them,

1261
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 4: motherfucker exactly.

1262
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: So you're not straight, you're ready, So you gotta do five?

1263
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 4: Can you just do like do three?

1264
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 6: Do three, let's do let's do three. Let's do harden

1265
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 6: KD Lebron, harden kd Lebron. It'll probably be respect to

1266
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 6: all of those guys.

1267
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 4: He's gonna try to score ninety on me one KD

1268
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 4: as I said early on, like he's the hardest fuck right,

1269
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 4: especially with the team that he's on now. Facts two,

1270
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 4: probably Bron.

1271
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: What explaining that what Bron is too Oprah.

1272
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 4: James Because with bron Man Like he's just a the

1273
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 4: motherfucker six like two hundred and seventy pounds running the

1274
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 4: four flat like.

1275
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: A fo flat.

1276
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 4: Right, you're gonna step in front of that? No, And

1277
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 4: now he hit jump shots, he passes the ball on time,

1278
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 4: on target, he can set the screen, he can come

1279
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 4: off the screen like everything I mean. And don't get

1280
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 4: me wrong, James is tough too.

1281
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: That's interesting and with him him being third in that

1282
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: with the run he on right now, basically being not

1283
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: able to be guarded.

1284
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel like the people just had the green

1285
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 2: light like James. It's really a bit more. They had

1286
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 2: that mentality. Yeah, like just that.

1287
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 4: But you know I think KD he he guards total problem.

1288
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, same thing I think James

1289
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 4: can guard. I just think that, man, I get it, Like, man,

1290
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 4: you're you're you're actually.

1291
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 2: Do a lot thing. Yeah, heserving all this energy and.

1292
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 4: That's how that team that he's on is have opportunity

1293
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 4: to win games. You know what I mean? Like, defense

1294
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 4: is a lot of energy that you spend it fucking

1295
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 4: go down there and be short on all your jump shots,

1296
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 4: like it's it's it's hard to do so I get it,

1297
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 4: I'm not and everybody got their own style of the game,

1298
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 4: and you know, the team yards built around whatever player

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Speaker 4: it may be. But uh, that's that's order that I

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01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 4: put him in all great Hall of Fame players. Though,

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01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 4: don't get me.

1302
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: Wrong, how is it to be, you know what I'm saying?

1303
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: With the team, you've got not like a talent like

1304
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: being that kid is a problem as big as he

1305
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: is being able to play the point. We obviously JJ

1306
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: is one of the best shooters. You got big m

1307
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: B who's probably the most dominant big fellaw we got

1308
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: going right now. How do you feel when you look

1309
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: around and like, man, I got something to really work with,

1310
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: Like we could be a problem, it.

1311
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 2: Could be special. We can.

1312
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 4: And it looks good on paper, but we gotta go

1313
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 4: out there and we gotta do it right. I think

1314
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 4: everybody gotta be on the same page and in so

1315
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 4: many aspects of the game, and I think everybody has

1316
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 4: to do a good job of knowing where they fit

1317
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 4: in and how to get in and play in their role.

1318
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 4: It's crazy to think that you know what you're going

1319
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 4: to get out of here quote unquote superstars, But it's

1320
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 4: the role players and the roles that they play that

1321
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 4: are really going to win you the championships. What I

1322
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 4: mean the second that Draymond the sides of, Hey, I'm

1323
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 4: gonna shoot twelve threes per game, like Steph. Not the

1324
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 4: same team, but I think he does a great job

1325
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 4: and that's why I respect him for it. Does a

1326
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 4: great job of like I'm open, but damn Steph player, Kate,

1327
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Or how many times does

1328
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 4: he dribble the ball down the middle of the pain

1329
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 4: he could probably shoot him make a floater boom or

1330
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 4: live to a big boom, you know what I mean.

1331
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 4: Then he goes in and just guards. You know, you

1332
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 4: can say what you will, but I do respect that

1333
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 4: part of his game. And going back to your point,

1334
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 4: like we can be really, really good. We have all

1335
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 4: the talent in the world. We just got to buy

1336
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 4: into everything we're doing on both ends of the floor,

1337
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 4: and that's when we're gonna take it to another level.

1338
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 2: Man.

1339
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 4: You know, we watched film and we be like, damn,

1340
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 4: if everybody was on the same page just on this

1341
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 4: particular play on off or on this particular player on defense.

1342
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 4: It's like if we all knew that he was going

1343
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 4: to do that, and so we rotated this way, or

1344
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 4: we put our hand like that's how it's putting.

1345
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 2: That was crazy.

1346
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 3: That was big to me when I played, and something

1347
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 3: that I didn't even know I was doing what I

1348
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 3: was doing, knowing my personel, me being a versatile player,

1349
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 3: having to know positions from one all the way to

1350
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 3: the five and then beguarding everybody.

1351
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 2: It was like I knew my whole person that I

1352
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: knew what he was gonna do.

1353
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 3: I knew it like he on the post and oh

1354
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 3: he's shooting up on him trying to deny on the ball.

1355
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 3: He gonna spend for the line like that personnel. Once

1356
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 3: I know each other personnel, I know what he can do.

1357
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 3: I know how to get him the ball. I need

1358
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 3: JJ to get the ball behind the throwing lite. I'm

1359
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 3: not putting being in position that he's uncomfortable and putting

1360
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 3: him in the best position to win. That's why I

1361
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 3: love that with you and being like I told you

1362
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 3: that seiling under the basket, both of y'all be doing

1363
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 3: and y'all be hitting each other with some quick, solid,

1364
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 3: strong baseball passes getting it down there, trying to get

1365
01:03:59,200 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 3: that easy.

1366
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 4: Lady, you gotta you know, you gotta try to play

1367
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 4: your strengths and everybody else is and try to cover

1368
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 4: up everybody's weaknesses at the same time. That's part of

1369
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 4: you know what I say, being a good teammate and

1370
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 4: knowing which your teammate is capable of. But with that

1371
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 4: being said, everybody gotta be on the same page no

1372
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 4: matter what. So you gotta know all if he's in

1373
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 4: this spot he is getting this ball, or if he's

1374
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 4: here on the defensive end, and if he gets beat

1375
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 4: or if he's getting posted up, I'm going to be there.

1376
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 4: That's the that's the next progression for any great you know,

1377
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 4: I want to win championship team.

1378
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 3: How does it feel to come to two organizations like

1379
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 3: you went to Minnesota and you went to seventy six

1380
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 3: is and you have this responsibility to have the game

1381
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 3: on the line mostly all the time. Yeah, you know,

1382
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 3: you called some players at the end of the game

1383
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 3: for a few players, but seventy five to eighty percent

1384
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 3: of the time they last play at the end of

1385
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 3: the game is gonna be called for you, and you

1386
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 3: got the responsibility to miss that shot, take that shot

1387
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 3: and get all the glory from that shot. So how

1388
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 3: does that feel to have two organizations back to back,

1389
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 3: like they labeled.

1390
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 2: You as a game finisher. Yeah, that's part of your stats.

1391
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 4: I love it, you know, because my teammates, my coaches,

1392
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 4: the organization have that much confidence in me to to

1393
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 4: take that shot late in the game, but also to

1394
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 4: know that if I'm not open, I might pass it

1395
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 4: to the open guy. Sometimes it depends on how I'm feeling.

1396
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: I remember hearing you after Who's that you hit the

1397
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: game early and we had just was right after we

1398
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: have Yeah, I played Charlotte, Charlotte, Charlotte.

1399
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 2: That's right, because.

1400
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 4: I feel like Kimber was crazy, but I got to

1401
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 4: shout out, man, Kimber, sixty boom right there. But like

1402
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 4: you said, it's about the the one place he said

1403
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 4: that you got that block, We'll get one, you know

1404
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So, uh, I think I work on

1405
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 4: my game enough to know I think at any certain time,

1406
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 4: I could probably shoot any shot and feel comfortable whenever

1407
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 4: I let it go that it's gonna go in. I'm

1408
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 4: not saying that they're all gonna go in, but I

1409
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 4: know when I get to my place or my spots

1410
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 4: on the floor, how affected that I can be and

1411
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 4: I think they all my former teams have done a

1412
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 4: great job of making me feel comfortable on both ends

1413
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 4: of the floor. But at the end of the game, man,

1414
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 4: it's it's on you, you know what I mean. I

1415
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 4: like that your back, I love it.

1416
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: I love it.

1417
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it, and you know, make or miss.

1418
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 4: I live with that. We live with that. But I

1419
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 4: think for the most part we're okay with it.

1420
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 3: So that's what It's big that you don't beat yourself

1421
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 3: up about the you know, you get some people.

1422
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 4: Everybody missed him. I missed one, at least one.

1423
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 3: I feel like Lebron kind of got caught up in

1424
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 3: that early on, where he'll feel comfortable now in his

1425
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 3: career to take them last shots and don't care if

1426
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 3: he missed, hit or miss it.

1427
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 2: He's just confident and taken in that.

1428
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 3: But I feel like early on, so much pressure was

1429
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 3: on him that he kind of shied away, you know,

1430
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 3: like you say, sometimes, yeah, I passed the ball, but

1431
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 3: sometimes you want your player. I want my best player

1432
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 3: to be selfish in that. Yeah, yeah, Jordan could have

1433
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 3: passed it to whoever. Sometimes I want him to be

1434
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 3: selfish sometimes and the taking that shot and we depending

1435
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 3: on him.

1436
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I look at it. I look at it

1437
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 4: two different ways. It all just depends. It depends on

1438
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 4: how you're you're playing, everybody else's strength and more anything. Man,

1439
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 4: if the person you pass it too can handle that,

1440
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like if you if you

1441
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 4: passed that ball to a rookie and he misses that shot, like,

1442
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 4: think about the mental h So you gotta you gotta

1443
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 4: know that. But if it's the right play, you kind

1444
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 4: of gotta do it. And if he missed it, it's

1445
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 4: kind of like, yo, that's part of the game. That

1446
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 4: right there is the right play, that's the right shot.

1447
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 2: If we do it over again.

1448
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 4: I threw it to you for a reason, or I

1449
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 4: threw it to you for a reason, or that person

1450
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 4: threw it to you for a reason. But you got

1451
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 4: to always look out for your teammates. That's why a

1452
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 4: lot of the times I will take the shot because

1453
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 4: one I know that I can make it, and two

1454
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 4: if I miss it, well I'm gonna get another opportunity.

1455
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 4: I guarantee I'm gonna get another opportunity again. So we

1456
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,759
Speaker 4: definitely appreciate it, Appreciate your family, Come on, come.

1457
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 2: On, gosh. The players Tribute dot Com