1
00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean can you feel that? Can you

2
00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,680
Speaker 1: feel it? Right now? This is Morning Kombat Holiday mail

3
00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,040
Speaker 1: Bag Edition Friday. You're watching this on Friday, November twenty fifth,

4
00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:23,400
Speaker 1: the day after Thanksgiving Black Friday, probably still full in

5
00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,000
Speaker 1: effect for those that celebrate that. This is Brian Campbell,

6
00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,040
Speaker 1: that's Luke Thomas. We did pre record this so in

7
00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,159
Speaker 1: the space time continuum. I have yet to have my

8
00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,000
Speaker 1: turkey in cheap cranberry out of the can, which is

9
00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,800
Speaker 1: really the only way to have it. But we've debated

10
00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,920
Speaker 1: that up and down. This is Morning Combat, your only

11
00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,120
Speaker 1: multi award winning combat sports show that's trying its best

12
00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,760
Speaker 1: to take over your personal life. BC here LT there,

13
00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,560
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, welcome into this holiday edition. Is your heart

14
00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,520
Speaker 1: filled with holiday joy? Just as we record this a

15
00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,320
Speaker 1: couple days out from my favorite.

16
00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,920
Speaker 2: As my heart filled with joy for a few days off.

17
00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,000
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay, one can accept that. One can accept that.

18
00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,679
Speaker 1: Happy Holidays to you and yours, Luke. We thank all

19
00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,920
Speaker 1: of our great people, Mikey Mormal are fantastic producer from

20
00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,080
Speaker 1: CBS Sports, all the great folks at Malca Showtime that

21
00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,479
Speaker 1: helped make this show possible, but most importantly you the viewer.

22
00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,760
Speaker 1: This is about us giving thanks back to you. We

23
00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,200
Speaker 1: solicited out questions to our email address, to our Twitter accounts,

24
00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,120
Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna play with

25
00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,120
Speaker 1: the bag, have a little fun with it, inflate it

26
00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm sure at our age, Luke, we

27
00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,680
Speaker 1: can use that inflation. That's the kind of inflation we

28
00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:41,680
Speaker 1: need right now.

29
00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,560
Speaker 2: Right, the only inflation that really serves us personally.

30
00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,200
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, all right, Luke. Do we have to

31
00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,440
Speaker 1: sell any We don't have to sell any ads, right, No.

32
00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,000
Speaker 2: I think people know the drill. I mean, just to

33
00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,880
Speaker 2: keep make sure we pump the email right Morning Combat

34
00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,080
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com for to reach the show for

35
00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,480
Speaker 2: anything else. Y'all know time dot com all that good stuff.

36
00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeahs and you know we got great holiday

37
00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,440
Speaker 1: merch too for Black Friday today, all right, so head on, yeah,

38
00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:07,840
Speaker 1: good point.

39
00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,240
Speaker 2: Yes, Morning Combat Store, Morningcombat dot Store.

40
00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,720
Speaker 1: You didn't get in, put your email address on that homepage.

41
00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,960
Speaker 1: You can get the Black Friday savings coming your way,

42
00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,480
Speaker 1: all right. This one is about the people, Luke. You

43
00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,400
Speaker 1: know it's my favorite holiday. You think it's a little

44
00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,799
Speaker 1: bit overrated. I don't know me. I mean you did

45
00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,760
Speaker 1: grow up in a high school that had a big

46
00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,960
Speaker 1: football tradition, but the Thanksgiving thing didn't catch you. I mean,

47
00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,120
Speaker 1: it didn't fit into you.

48
00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,519
Speaker 2: The thing is, my family likes Thanksgiving more than any

49
00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,040
Speaker 2: other holiday. I do like Thanksgiving more than many holidays,

50
00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,840
Speaker 2: to be quite clear about it. Thanksgiving was fun in

51
00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,160
Speaker 2: college where you'd been gone for a while and then

52
00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,680
Speaker 2: everyone went home and everyone kind of checked in on

53
00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,400
Speaker 2: how everyone else was doing or whatever, and then everyone

54
00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,840
Speaker 2: goes out on the nights that you had off or whatever.

55
00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,840
Speaker 2: But like I gotta be honest, man, just pound for pound,

56
00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,519
Speaker 2: Christmas is hard to beat for me, and from my

57
00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,919
Speaker 2: wife's family too, Like Christmas is huge, huge, where she's from.

58
00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,519
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean it's just a little bit different, dude.

59
00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,919
Speaker 1: Christmas is like the New York Yankees of holidays. It's

60
00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,560
Speaker 1: really hard to you know, to chip away at it

61
00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,440
Speaker 1: from a whether you're celebrating the christ side of it

62
00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,040
Speaker 1: or you just want to be with your family and

63
00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,320
Speaker 1: make everybody happy and open gifts. And once you have kids,

64
00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,360
Speaker 1: obviously that brings back the kid and you in so

65
00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,960
Speaker 1: many ways. So I can appreciate that. But you know,

66
00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,679
Speaker 1: you mentioned everybody comes back That's always been a huge

67
00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,320
Speaker 1: part of Thanksgiving. It's not just the meal, family time,

68
00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,680
Speaker 1: the high school football game against Ansonia. We're taking those

69
00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,880
Speaker 1: Chargers down this year. I just know it. And it's like,

70
00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, I was that guy Luke who didn't get

71
00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,480
Speaker 1: to go away to college. So Thanksgiving weekend and the

72
00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,840
Speaker 1: night before that Wednesday night, which where I come from,

73
00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,440
Speaker 1: it's a holiday called Valley New Year. Fantastic Luke. You know,

74
00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,040
Speaker 1: everybody comes back, all the people that think they're too

75
00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,480
Speaker 1: good for their hometown comes back and fills up the

76
00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,560
Speaker 1: crappy local bars. Dude, that was an event from ages

77
00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,120
Speaker 1: like age like nineteen to like twenty six. Dude, that

78
00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,400
Speaker 1: was an event right twenty six.

79
00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,200
Speaker 2: No, I didn't participate that long. You hung around you

80
00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,600
Speaker 2: were a gross towny. It turns out, yeah, well.

81
00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,640
Speaker 1: My town is full of townies. It's so like, you know,

82
00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,600
Speaker 1: you're not really all that gross at that age. But

83
00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you could at least relate to that Luke

84
00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,520
Speaker 1: right in Valdosta when all you're.

85
00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,640
Speaker 2: Exp Marianna, I would go back. My brother graduated from

86
00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,680
Speaker 2: Valdosta High School, but then we moved and then I

87
00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,840
Speaker 2: went to Marietta High School for my sophomore junior year,

88
00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,839
Speaker 2: so I would go back to Marietta for a few years.

89
00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,039
Speaker 1: All right, you and I have debated, now what three

90
00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,919
Speaker 1: years into the show, many times our love for Thanksgiving

91
00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,120
Speaker 1: and our favorite side dishes and all that. But let's

92
00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,039
Speaker 1: hit off our first question from Daz Rikio. We do

93
00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,200
Speaker 1: have to remember not everybody's a p one here. They

94
00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,040
Speaker 1: may be late to the party. So Luke refreshed their

95
00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,760
Speaker 1: memory question number one here what is your number one

96
00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,400
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dish or food? And conversely, what is your least favorite?

97
00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,080
Speaker 1: And also what would you replace your least favorite with?

98
00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,760
Speaker 1: It does not have to be a Thanksgiving food according

99
00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,240
Speaker 1: to Daz, so it's a three part question regarding the

100
00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,080
Speaker 1: centerpiece on Thursday, Luke, speak to your life please.

101
00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,720
Speaker 2: All right? So okay, so here's where I'm lucky. You

102
00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,240
Speaker 2: remember my brother, my sister you to own a restaurant together.

103
00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,040
Speaker 2: They sold it, they got out of the business, but

104
00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,479
Speaker 2: they had a successful one for about fifteen years. They

105
00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,200
Speaker 2: had a nice one going. Luckily, they closed it right

106
00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,720
Speaker 2: before the pandemic hit. So all's well, that ends well.

107
00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,680
Speaker 2: But the point I bring that up to say is

108
00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,240
Speaker 2: that I'm very lucky and I'm very spoiled because my

109
00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,560
Speaker 2: family can cook in ways that I'm just gonna say

110
00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,200
Speaker 2: most families cannot. I think it's a pretty fair way

111
00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,480
Speaker 2: to put it. So I normally never have to worry

112
00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,680
Speaker 2: about things I don't like. In terms of things I

113
00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,560
Speaker 2: like my number one go to dude, I have a

114
00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,400
Speaker 2: mac and cheese. Guy, I just it's not giving tradition.

115
00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,440
Speaker 2: Let me say it's not necessarily the centerpiece. I get that.

116
00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,599
Speaker 2: I get that. It's not that you can't plan a

117
00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,680
Speaker 2: meal around mac and cheese. I get that. But I

118
00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,640
Speaker 2: just feel like, pound for pound, every bite of that

119
00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,080
Speaker 2: mac and cheese, if it's done correctly, it just delivers

120
00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,600
Speaker 2: in the most impressive of ways. If we're talking about centerpieces,

121
00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to I think an old answer,

122
00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,600
Speaker 2: which is if you've never had and I'm gonna put

123
00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:10,440
Speaker 2: a caveat here, properly cooked fried turkey, fried turkey. If

124
00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,160
Speaker 2: you've never had fried turkey.

125
00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,359
Speaker 1: Let me do it. Let me do an impression of

126
00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,040
Speaker 1: you from from our first year of it. What you

127
00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,800
Speaker 1: never you never have fried turkey?

128
00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,120
Speaker 2: What dude, Once you've had fried turkey, you realize that

129
00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,680
Speaker 2: everyone else has been fucking with your life for as

130
00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,400
Speaker 2: long as you existed. It's not even they're not even

131
00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,320
Speaker 2: on the same ballpark of deliciousness. So that would be

132
00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,560
Speaker 2: my centerpiece. Obviously, some good gravy on top of it

133
00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,479
Speaker 2: really drives that home. That's gonna be my answer for that.

134
00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,480
Speaker 2: But of course, just pound a pound, it's gonna be

135
00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,120
Speaker 2: mac and cheese things I would not want to eat.

136
00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,560
Speaker 1: I'll say this for your transition. Let me ask you this, okay,

137
00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,479
Speaker 1: because where you're putting mac and cheese right now is

138
00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,680
Speaker 1: like not the centerpiece, but maybe the MVP that keeps

139
00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,159
Speaker 1: it all together. To me, that's stuffing. I will not

140
00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,880
Speaker 1: have a bite that doesn't have stuffing and cranberry in

141
00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,880
Speaker 1: that bite. Are you like me? Where you'll mesh everything

142
00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,480
Speaker 1: on the plate, But every bite's got to have a

143
00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,800
Speaker 1: little reperdsentation of each area sometimes.

144
00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,359
Speaker 2: But stuffing is for peasants. Cranberry sauces for peasants. Just

145
00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,440
Speaker 2: don't not both of those are trash. But I will

146
00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,720
Speaker 2: say this, I'd eat both of those before I eat

147
00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:16,080
Speaker 2: someone's Brussels sprouts. Fucking whatever, just a just a low

148
00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,520
Speaker 2: class food for raccoons. I mean, can we just be

149
00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,480
Speaker 2: honest about that? That's just garbage food. It doesn't taste.

150
00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,040
Speaker 2: Oh but we blanche ours and we fry ours. Yeah,

151
00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,880
Speaker 2: you got to blanch and fry that thing into oblivion.

152
00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

153
00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gross. It's gross. So that's my answer to

154
00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,800
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of there with that one.

155
00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,920
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let me just hit you first. I've

156
00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,520
Speaker 1: said it before. My number one the dish your food. Like,

157
00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm not a turkey guy. I'll put a little bit

158
00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,560
Speaker 1: on my plate, but the centerpiece for me is the

159
00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,400
Speaker 1: meat pie Luke, and I've realized I've come to learn

160
00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,120
Speaker 1: that that's a French Canadian tradition from my going back

161
00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:52,160
Speaker 1: to like Shepherd's pie Quebecian and Vermont people. So it's

162
00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,560
Speaker 1: it's a crusted pie that has what looks to be

163
00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:01,600
Speaker 1: ground beef season It's not Shepherd's pie. Shepherd's pie has

164
00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,360
Speaker 1: like mashed potatoes and vegetables. Meat pie basically has pork,

165
00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,440
Speaker 1: beef and chicken kind of mixed together with some heavy

166
00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,200
Speaker 1: sweet seasonings and that perfectly crispy crust. It's not too

167
00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,480
Speaker 1: far from Shepherd's pie, but it's something completely different and

168
00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,920
Speaker 1: once you've had it, like my wife never grew up

169
00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,160
Speaker 1: with it, tried it once and it was like, this is

170
00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,120
Speaker 1: the most discussing thing ever. But if you've had it,

171
00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,000
Speaker 1: if it's in your blood, if you're a quebecuah, you

172
00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,120
Speaker 1: get that shit. Okay, But what's my least favorite. I'd

173
00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,120
Speaker 1: have to go yams or tournament you.

174
00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,760
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, a lot of yams. A tournative guy either. Yeah.

175
00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,440
Speaker 2: My buddies Irani and this isn't so much like Thanksgiving related.

176
00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,560
Speaker 2: They just eat it all the time. His family would

177
00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,760
Speaker 2: take radishes and then just eat it like an apple.

178
00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,440
Speaker 2: I'd be like, dude, that's the most insane thing I've

179
00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:47,280
Speaker 2: ever seen in my life.

180
00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,440
Speaker 1: I know there's people that do that with onions, lemons.

181
00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,680
Speaker 1: That's you know, I mean, you know whatever, if.

182
00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,520
Speaker 2: That's your Jeffrey Dahmer and co. That's right.

183
00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. They say what would you replace

184
00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,719
Speaker 1: it with? I want to give this answer because I

185
00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,600
Speaker 1: go to uncle shout out to Uncle Tom Campbell. I

186
00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,880
Speaker 1: go to his every year on Thanksgiving and Aunt Cheryl

187
00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,800
Speaker 1: makes a lasagna because one of her kids doesn't eat

188
00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,200
Speaker 1: the traditional Thanksgiving So lasagna, by the way, is my

189
00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,640
Speaker 1: favorite food of all time. So when I am able

190
00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,600
Speaker 1: to replace whatever I don't want already on the Thanksgiving

191
00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,040
Speaker 1: plate with lasagna. You got a happy BC right here. Look,

192
00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,000
Speaker 1: do you have any do you make any weird replacements?

193
00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,560
Speaker 2: I see again, I don't really ever have to because

194
00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,600
Speaker 2: we don't ever eat I'm very lucky, we don't ever

195
00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,040
Speaker 2: eat poorly. With that, I will say, if that, like,

196
00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,720
Speaker 2: if I'm at someone else's house and I gotta do

197
00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,800
Speaker 2: some replacements, I don't mind a little green bean cracked

198
00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,280
Speaker 2: castle role, little green bean castroles. All right, man, you

199
00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:35,320
Speaker 2: can do something with that, you know.

200
00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm into that. My mom made a great one

201
00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,600
Speaker 1: of that. But you know, the three f's is always

202
00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,080
Speaker 1: what defines Thanksgiving to me.

203
00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:41,439
Speaker 2: Food.

204
00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,920
Speaker 1: Family. In football, you know, it's going to the game

205
00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,480
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving morning and hoping you can find it, get a

206
00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,160
Speaker 1: World Cup this time yep. And then of course the

207
00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,720
Speaker 1: trio of NFL games after and don't forget Luke along

208
00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,360
Speaker 1: with the video game tournaments. The backyard Family Football game

209
00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,920
Speaker 1: every year is it's just a it's a standard Luke

210
00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,440
Speaker 1: and it's competitive as heck, even though there's a good

211
00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,080
Speaker 1: mixture of young kids, old people, and you know it's

212
00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I've have had some serious and

213
00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,360
Speaker 1: who could forget the bloody toe game Luke from O

214
00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,240
Speaker 1: four when I rallied us back in the second half

215
00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,319
Speaker 1: and Kurt Silling. Yeah, Yeah, that's about it. Yeah, the

216
00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,600
Speaker 1: shout out to snarky head Ginger. She'll appreciate that one.

217
00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep this show rolling here. We got

218
00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,080
Speaker 1: a big variety of questions here, Mikey. I'm just going

219
00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,520
Speaker 1: to shout out what I like here and you can adjust.

220
00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,600
Speaker 1: But here we go. Let's go over to Warton Blake.

221
00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,440
Speaker 1: He has a question related to combat that's aimed at you, Luke.

222
00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,480
Speaker 1: He says, at what weights? Would you set the weight

223
00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,040
Speaker 1: classes in MMA? Adding or taking away any divisions as

224
00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,600
Speaker 1: you please. They have the same question for me on boxing,

225
00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:41,839
Speaker 1: but I want to stay on MMA because you and

226
00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,600
Speaker 1: I have debated this through the years. Where you want

227
00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,920
Speaker 1: more weight classes. I come from boxing where there's seventeen

228
00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,640
Speaker 1: and it sucks the horn. I want less weight classes.

229
00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,600
Speaker 1: But what would the amendments you would make right now

230
00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,520
Speaker 1: to improve the sport if you could by adjusting the

231
00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,040
Speaker 1: weight class.

232
00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't make a ton of change. I wouldn't make

233
00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,120
Speaker 2: a ton of change because I get the point, especially

234
00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,280
Speaker 2: as you get higher in the weight, the fighters start

235
00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,520
Speaker 2: sucking more, and so you want to make some constraints

236
00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,160
Speaker 2: around who gets invited to that party by virtue of that.

237
00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,280
Speaker 2: So what I would say is, on the women's side,

238
00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,559
Speaker 2: it already exists, but I think we need to think

239
00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,000
Speaker 2: about straw weight. Wait, we have straweight, sorry, Adam weight

240
00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,600
Speaker 2: at one oh five. I think that's a burgeoning weight

241
00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,640
Speaker 2: class that's eventually going to make its way to the UFC.

242
00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,440
Speaker 2: So I would add that that's one eventually I.

243
00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,760
Speaker 1: Think comes out of retirement Luke to fight in.

244
00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,760
Speaker 2: Her preferred division. That's right, that's right, Adam weight.

245
00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,800
Speaker 1: Does she come out of retirement for oh for Adam weight?

246
00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, she's past forty. Like it's too late, it's

247
00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:35,640
Speaker 2: too late.

248
00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,960
Speaker 1: I think she's approaching forty, That's what I think.

249
00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,280
Speaker 2: I think she's forty. It will be forty soon anyway.

250
00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,080
Speaker 2: On the men's side, it's I wouldn't change much. You

251
00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,840
Speaker 2: got one twenty five, one thirty five, five fifty five one,

252
00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,559
Speaker 2: then then that's where I change. Then I go one

253
00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:53,040
Speaker 2: sixty five, one seventy five, one eighty five and then

254
00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,439
Speaker 2: two o five and then heavyweight. So the only real

255
00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,960
Speaker 2: change I'm making is I'm not doing the fifteen pound

256
00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,760
Speaker 2: jump between lightweight and Weltering. It's still ten, then bumping

257
00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,559
Speaker 2: Walter up five more pounds and then making that allotment

258
00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,640
Speaker 2: therein All right, you know.

259
00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,679
Speaker 1: I mean, I get that if you go ten ten, ten,

260
00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,120
Speaker 1: and then suddenly you have this bigger gaps, it's inevitably

261
00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,120
Speaker 1: going to not be fair to certain guys who were

262
00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,000
Speaker 1: sort of in the middle. But you know, that's sort

263
00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,080
Speaker 1: of how it works. You know. You you either want

264
00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,520
Speaker 1: to go crazy and have a million weight. I mean,

265
00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,480
Speaker 1: we have seventeen of boxing and they try they're trying

266
00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,400
Speaker 1: to add bridgerweight, which is just an unnecessary eighteenth I'll

267
00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:24,920
Speaker 1: never forget.

268
00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,760
Speaker 2: When we sat down with Hasim Rockman, I'm like, what's

269
00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,199
Speaker 2: your goals in the sports? Like y'all trying to be

270
00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,440
Speaker 2: the bridgerweight champion. I'm like, Wow, that's red flag, buddy,

271
00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:31,640
Speaker 2: that's red flag territory.

272
00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,880
Speaker 1: Greg Hardy's gonna send you to hell one day for that.

273
00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,680
Speaker 1: Oh wait, he just did last weekend. All right. Look,

274
00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,880
Speaker 1: my question on that this could be for boxing or heavyweight,

275
00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,200
Speaker 1: which is why the bridger weight came about so in

276
00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,880
Speaker 1: specifically an MMA. It seems that that heavyweight cut limit

277
00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,679
Speaker 1: of two sixty five, which I think every other promotion

278
00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,640
Speaker 1: as far as I can remember, has also adopted, has

279
00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,439
Speaker 1: been to eliminate that early UFC vision of like little

280
00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,760
Speaker 1: guy fighting fat guy. Right, but that was back when

281
00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,440
Speaker 1: there were no weight classes. Anyway, Do you think that

282
00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,680
Speaker 1: stand for many years to come?

283
00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:02,000
Speaker 2: Where?

284
00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,040
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if it's Dane, what is

285
00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,240
Speaker 1: just some great big fat person you know, Yeah, there's

286
00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,320
Speaker 1: a lot of great, big fat persons who can still fight.

287
00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,440
Speaker 1: This seems discriminatory against the big bone folks. Will this

288
00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:14,760
Speaker 1: stand forever? You think?

289
00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,680
Speaker 2: Well, some commissions have an allowance for super heavyweight. I've

290
00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,520
Speaker 2: seen it. You can fight super heavyweight where you can

291
00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,360
Speaker 2: fight into the threes. If they wanted to add that

292
00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,960
Speaker 2: on occasion, like getting commission approval or whatever, then fine.

293
00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,120
Speaker 2: But otherwise I think the two sixty five limit basically

294
00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,400
Speaker 2: serves a pretty legitimate and helpful function. Okay, so you.

295
00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I want yes, yes, but it's I

296
00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,280
Speaker 1: don't know you would need It's not just hey, what

297
00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,440
Speaker 1: if we have one amazing three hundred and twenty ponder

298
00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,600
Speaker 1: that has nowhere else to go? But you would need

299
00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,000
Speaker 1: to be able to fill out a division. I mean,

300
00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,880
Speaker 1: look at the I mean, look at the.

301
00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,160
Speaker 2: I've talked, I've talked to matchmakers before. In order to

302
00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,800
Speaker 2: make a division work, they need at least at least

303
00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,480
Speaker 2: twenty people. Yeah, twenty people to make a division work.

304
00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,920
Speaker 1: As we found out with women's featherweight for example, it's

305
00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,200
Speaker 1: just it's just not there. It's just not there.

306
00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,599
Speaker 2: But I've seen like I've seen I've seen in Hawaii

307
00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,360
Speaker 2: for example, they've had like when Icon and Sport and

308
00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,280
Speaker 2: super Brawl used to exist. These are like precursors to

309
00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,920
Speaker 2: you know, actually some of them were post Rumble on

310
00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,840
Speaker 2: the Rock, but they had they had super heavyweight classes

311
00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,880
Speaker 2: and it worked there.

312
00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,520
Speaker 1: You go, all right, let's go over to the apathetic lawlor.

313
00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's talking about Robbie here, but

314
00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,760
Speaker 1: he's got a question. They said, if Dana told you

315
00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,200
Speaker 1: to make a fight that had the possibility to sell

316
00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,600
Speaker 1: two million or more pay per view buys, what would

317
00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,400
Speaker 1: it be? And they want one answer for active fighters only,

318
00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,280
Speaker 1: and one that potentially could include retired ones coming back

319
00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,880
Speaker 1: out of retirement. And they threw out a couple suggestions.

320
00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,520
Speaker 1: You want the suggestions? Do you just want to feel this?

321
00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,600
Speaker 2: Let me. Hear the suggestions.

322
00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:59,280
Speaker 1: Connor versus Islam, Connor Habib two or Habib versus Islam.

323
00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,080
Speaker 1: All right, appath at Lawler, good luck on that one.

324
00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,920
Speaker 1: But uh, your thoughts on what I mean? We've had

325
00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,320
Speaker 1: this debate regarding John Jones and Francis and Ganoho. I

326
00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,440
Speaker 1: say it's the biggest fight UFC can make for the

327
00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,760
Speaker 1: heavyweight title. Put it in Raiders Stadium. We do have

328
00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,680
Speaker 1: people saying, hey, guys, neither one has been you know,

329
00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,080
Speaker 1: John had been a consistent pay per view draw, never spectacular,

330
00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,440
Speaker 1: but consistent. Lawler has a very small footprint in the

331
00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,680
Speaker 1: pay per view space overall to be I'm sorry, and

332
00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,280
Speaker 1: Gano does to be fair not Lawler. Do you think though,

333
00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,120
Speaker 1: that that fight is in this conversation that if promoted right,

334
00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,000
Speaker 1: if I mean, if there's everything you'd want that could

335
00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,920
Speaker 1: fuel it, that it could get to two millionaire? Am

336
00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:36,520
Speaker 1: I crazy?

337
00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,080
Speaker 2: You're crazy? But let me ask you this question, and

338
00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna say, oh no, they wouldn't allow it because

339
00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,520
Speaker 2: he's too old. But the Nevada Commission will allow just

340
00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,400
Speaker 2: about anything. I mean, let's just be honest about that.

341
00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,280
Speaker 2: Like they're not a great commission. Okay, what if the

342
00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,840
Speaker 2: UFC finally convinced and found a way to get it sanctioned.

343
00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,760
Speaker 2: I'm not doing a bit here. Think about this for

344
00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,000
Speaker 2: a second. What if the UFC got Mike Tyson to

345
00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:06,400
Speaker 2: make his NMAT view right right, It's not it's it's crazy.

346
00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,920
Speaker 2: It's crazy, but it's not the craziest thing when you

347
00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,840
Speaker 2: really begin to think about how he's still in shape.

348
00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,120
Speaker 2: He just had this exhibition not too long ago against

349
00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,000
Speaker 2: Roy Jones Junior. They would probably give him some other

350
00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,200
Speaker 2: kind of very beatable opponent. Well, dude, Mike Tyson.

351
00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,120
Speaker 1: Saying beatable opponent, how about if I inswered a Paul Brother?

352
00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,960
Speaker 1: What does that do to your scenario?

353
00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,120
Speaker 2: I mean that would definitely put I mean, wouldn't that

354
00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,000
Speaker 2: be over two million buys? It would be over two

355
00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,040
Speaker 2: million buys? Wouldn't it like whether you like Again, this

356
00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,280
Speaker 2: is not a question of do you like the fight

357
00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,800
Speaker 2: or is it a good fight? Just that it sells

358
00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,920
Speaker 2: two million buyes. Mike Tyson making his PROVIU in the

359
00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,680
Speaker 2: UFC and MMA, by the way alone might do it,

360
00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,800
Speaker 2: although probably not, but then this kind of other component

361
00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,000
Speaker 2: probably puts it over the edge.

362
00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think Mike Tyson, which that's when

363
00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,280
Speaker 1: he came back and fought Roy Jones a couple years ago,

364
00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,600
Speaker 1: is the biggest surprise I ever thought, you know, would happen.

365
00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,400
Speaker 1: I thought if anybody was done, it was that guy,

366
00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,120
Speaker 1: because he understood so much about what went wrong and

367
00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,520
Speaker 1: keeping that that you know demon inside of him that

368
00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,480
Speaker 1: comes out and fights crazy. But he pulled it off.

369
00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,560
Speaker 1: He was in great shape. It was insane. But that

370
00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:15,240
Speaker 1: casual audience that both MMA and boxing promoters are always

371
00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,880
Speaker 1: you know, dreaming of cashing into the kind that get

372
00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,920
Speaker 1: you to the two point you know, four million for

373
00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,040
Speaker 1: Connor Habib or the four point four million buys for

374
00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,440
Speaker 1: for what was that was that Manny Pakiah? Wait? Yeah,

375
00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,399
Speaker 1: and also Connor versus Floyd did in that area as well,

376
00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,359
Speaker 1: four point six and four point four million, which is

377
00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,800
Speaker 1: just it's just ridiculous. Really, it's just it's a ridiculous

378
00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:43,640
Speaker 1: amount of buyes. Mike Tyson's fans meaning people who are

379
00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,919
Speaker 1: now in their forties and fifties but grew up with

380
00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,120
Speaker 1: him as an absolute phenomenon. I mean, I almost think

381
00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,880
Speaker 1: that audience is limitless if you can get them hooked. Now,

382
00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,040
Speaker 1: just getting them hooked on the freak show. What would

383
00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,960
Speaker 1: it look like? Thing I think is a lot. I

384
00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,159
Speaker 1: remember a head of that Roy fight, a lot of

385
00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,560
Speaker 1: people from my past going, oh my god, you into

386
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,719
Speaker 1: this fight, like you know, I didn't even know they

387
00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,359
Speaker 1: were into it. But that's the dude, that's the last

388
00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,360
Speaker 1: remaining dinosaur that could pull back everybody. You put him

389
00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,120
Speaker 1: against a Paul Brother, Yeah, you're gonna get two million buys,

390
00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,000
Speaker 1: so you're gonna.

391
00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,920
Speaker 2: Do it, all right, But current fighters, this is hard.

392
00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. Like someone asked me this question at

393
00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:26,159
Speaker 2: a ABC, which was how would you grade the UFC's year. Now,

394
00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,560
Speaker 2: you would not give it a bad grade. It was

395
00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,040
Speaker 2: a good year in many ways. It was a good year,

396
00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:37,040
Speaker 2: but they didn't have any truly blockbuster next level event.

397
00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,800
Speaker 2: They didn't have any one million pay per view by

398
00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,600
Speaker 2: holy shit, tear the house down, biggest thing in sports

399
00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,520
Speaker 2: that weekend kind of moment. So like part of that

400
00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,760
Speaker 2: is not because the UFC are bad promoters. They're they're

401
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,359
Speaker 2: probably the best promoters in the game, but that there's

402
00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,159
Speaker 2: just not a lot of available permutations that make that work.

403
00:18:54,800 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 2: I guess you could say two million Ronda Rousi versus

404
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,520
Speaker 2: this is Gina Carano. Does that get million?

405
00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,480
Speaker 1: That would not get two million. That is the type

406
00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,439
Speaker 1: of interesting sort of reach outside of the box that

407
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,760
Speaker 1: this question gives you that chance to do. But I

408
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,199
Speaker 1: do want to stay active fighters and say it like this.

409
00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,919
Speaker 1: It's like part of the I mean, is part of

410
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 1: the problem. I mean, look, first of all, when speaking

411
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,439
Speaker 1: of this year, if you would have told me ahead

412
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,960
Speaker 1: of time, hey, BC, John Jones and Coon McGregor will

413
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,239
Speaker 1: not compete this year, I would I would have been surprised, right,

414
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,359
Speaker 1: So I would have thought that they had those chances

415
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 1: to do huge fights with both, and they would have

416
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 1: been huge in any scenario for both. But when you

417
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 1: look at it, you can lose too easily. In this game.

418
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 1: It's really hard to build long win streaks. And when

419
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,879
Speaker 1: somebody does kind of break through like Usman recently and

420
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker 1: builds along win streak or Volkanovsky, now it's not a

421
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 1: guarantee that they're gonna be a slam dunk, you know,

422
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,399
Speaker 1: mainstream American audience guarantee to buy you know, you sometimes

423
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,360
Speaker 1: need that McGregor hook or just the greatness that John

424
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 1: Jones had. And like we said, even with John Jones

425
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 1: at the peak of his game, it wasn't an overwhelming

426
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 1: paper review brand. I mean, you know, look to be fair,

427
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,959
Speaker 1: neither was GSP or Anderson Silva. Like they came up

428
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 1: and peaked for certain big fights, but neither ever entered

429
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,400
Speaker 1: that Floyd and Manny level where no matter who they're fighting,

430
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 1: it's a million buys first stretch, remember that stretch, like,

431
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 1: no matter who they're fighting, just to see them, just

432
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 1: to see them. Now that's pre developed stream illegal streaming

433
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 1: and all that, you know, which wasn't as prevalent as

434
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 1: it is now. Okay, But within fighters that are still there,

435
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can make one without Connor.

436
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,440
Speaker 1: As much as I want Jones and Ghana to be

437
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,640
Speaker 1: the biggest thing, ever, you might still need Connor now,

438
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 1: Connor Habib too. If you could take my retirement, you know,

439
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 1: even without Connor coming back and getting a win nostalgically

440
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,959
Speaker 1: would get you a shit ton of buys. But how

441
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,360
Speaker 1: much do you think that idea that apathetic law are

442
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 1: throughout there, which I've thrown out and people hate to

443
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: hear it. But if Islam can keep winning or forget,

444
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 1: if you can keep winning, as soon as you can

445
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 1: do it Islam Mahachev versus Connor McGregor, which essentially is

446
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,719
Speaker 1: trying to play up one million percent on the Habib

447
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 1: Connor rivalry. Does that actually reach something very large or

448
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: does that just come out it happens Connor gets dominated

449
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,719
Speaker 1: and then it's like, okay, it did one point too.

450
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: That's pretty damn good man. We don't see that too often.

451
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 1: But that's not two million buys, you.

452
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,679
Speaker 2: Know, Yes, I think I think the latter is what

453
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 2: you're talking about. It does well, it matters, it's relevant,

454
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 2: but it's not man to sell two million pay per

455
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 2: view buys. I mean, we're talking about what a handful

456
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 2: in the history of the of combat sports, of combat

457
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 2: sports have ever sold that. So I don't I don't.

458
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 2: I just don't think there's any I mean, maybe I'll

459
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,160
Speaker 2: have a poverty of imagination, but I don't think there's

460
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: any fight between active fighters where you could reasonably get them,

461
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 2: you know, because they're not too far apart in the

462
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 2: weight class that you get two million buys. I don't

463
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: think it exists right now.

464
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: All right. I think there's one other one that is,

465
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 1: uh my, here's my best answer for you. If you

466
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: can't get Habib, if you can't build up a Connor

467
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: Islam rivalry quickly to be anywhere close to what the

468
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 1: Habib Knor rivalry was. What about one night only supervit

469
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: Connor versus GSP. Does that have the fuel and star

470
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 1: power to do a shit ton?

471
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: I think if Connor came back and looked good, maybe maybe.

472
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: Because you would be pulling on an older audience that

473
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: you recommend you regularly. Remind me, like the people that

474
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: were die hard MMA fans in two thousand and eight,

475
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 1: nine ten, A lot of those people aren't around anymore.

476
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 2: No, most of them are gone. And then, by the way,

477
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 2: folks watching now, most of you will be gone in

478
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: five years too. That's just how the sport goes.

479
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: So there it is, all right, we've said it. What

480
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: is the biggest women's fight you can make it? It's

481
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: Rousey Corona right still?

482
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean obviously Noons versus Chevchenko is an infinitely

483
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: more quality fight. It wouldn't do them. It wouldn't do

484
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 2: the buys.

485
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: Right, No, No, it wouldn't. It wouldn't. All right, let's

486
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,199
Speaker 1: see what else we got here. Let's get out of

487
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: combat for a second, Luke, and welcome in Campbell Parrish,

488
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: my brethren, here my cousin, cousin perish if you could

489
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: your memory, by the way, I got a lot of

490
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: hate from my Wakanda Forever was awesome, rant Are you

491
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: guys serious? It was awesome?

492
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 2: Really is because there was a lot of black people

493
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: in I mean.

494
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: Was this our p one jan six audience that has

495
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: taken this year?

496
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 2: If you could again? In fairness, the movie does seem

497
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: like it's polarizing, like people either come out with your

498
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 2: view that it was like fucking great. Yeah, people come

499
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: out being like, man, that was such a letdown, and

500
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: it doesn't It tends to go like my friend who

501
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: told me he didn't like it that much. He's black

502
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: and he was like, it's not that good. So I'm

503
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm kidding everyone out there.

504
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 1: But does that quickly? On Wakanda, I felt like I

505
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: mentioned yesterday or whatever we did. I felt some like

506
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: sort of like, oh my god, I'm a kid again

507
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: in the theater and I've lost track of time in space.

508
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: But some of that is because it felt a little

509
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: bit like episode four of Star Wars. And I know

510
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: that's a repeated pattern and trope and a lot of

511
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: these fantasy movies, hit superhero movies to try to mimic

512
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 1: that that great storytelling and all that, but there's a

513
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: lot of that cross over. And also the new villain

514
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: is badass is shit. So watch it for yourself. I

515
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: looked it up. I think the Rotten Tomatoes approval rating

516
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: right now I was like eighty four percent, so that

517
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty good, all right, But look, if

518
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: you could wipe your memory and experience, if you could

519
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: wipe your memory standing up, I mean, that's a preferred way.

520
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, that's the only way to get it

521
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: truly clean, you know what I mean?

522
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: And I mean, if you're four years old and experience

523
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: watching a movie for the first time, what movie would

524
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: it be? And why? You know?

525
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 2: Couse this answer is so fucking easy. This answer is

526
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: so fucking actually, you know what, I have an answer

527
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: and then like a and then like a uh and

528
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: like an honorary mention. Uh. So the answer is Predator.

529
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: I mean, whoa dude? Predator is like I just can't overstate.

530
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: Wait, where were you? Where were you the first time

531
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: you saw? What was the setting of the age? All

532
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: that give me bad?

533
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: This is true? This is true. So this must have

534
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 2: been like nineteen eighty nine, or so eighty eight, because

535
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: the movie came out in eighty seven. My dad had

536
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: a copy of it on Beta Max.

537
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: You remember that, shit, You're done at Beta max, dude,

538
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: my dad?

539
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 2: I mean, did look? Look who I am? Ultimate contrarian.

540
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: You think my dad's gonna buy vhs? And my dad's argument,

541
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 2: which was correct at the time, which is, dude, most

542
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 2: of the world uses Beta max, which is true, most

543
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: of the world did, just on the other.

544
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: Side of the road. Mister Thomas, Okay, thank you.

545
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 2: I know. Do you remember going to the video stores

546
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: back in the like mid to late eighties and some

547
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 2: places would have Beta Max and they had the giant

548
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: containers because the tapes were actually much bigger.

549
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, let's invent a disc that's really big

550
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: and it's so expensive and no one's gonna have it

551
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: a month after it comes out. Yeah, let's call it

552
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: all right.

553
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: But the answer is that was the first r movie

554
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: my dad ever let me watch, probably way too early.

555
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: I was like nine or so, maybe ten at most,

556
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 2: something like that, So I remember that, but I didn't

557
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: fully appreciate it until I watched it like twenty times

558
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: later over the course of the next couple of years

559
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 2: and I was like, holy shit, this movie is just

560
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: better than any of the movie I've ever fucking seen.

561
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 2: Granted that's from my ten year old's perspective, but even now,

562
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: like amc American movie, Class six will air that it's

563
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: obviously gotten a lot of acclaim for being both like

564
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: a sort of like action movie, but it's also kind

565
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: of like a slasher flick at the same time, because

566
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: fiction and science fiction, because this this this sort of

567
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: like secret villain is killing everyone one by one. So

568
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: it's got a lot of different levels to it. It's

569
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 2: peak Schwarzenegger, it's peak eighties, it's peak machismo. It's just

570
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: fucking amazing. I wish I could get the same first high,

571
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: so to speak, that I got from it the first time.

572
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: But the honorable mention would be The Matrix. I remember

573
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: watching that by myself one time. That when I when

574
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: I first went to see any and nine and my

575
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: friends wanted to go to the movies. It was right

576
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: off campus and they did they couldn't go, so I

577
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: was like, fuck it, I'm just gonna go, and I went.

578
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: I was like, I gotta tell everyone about this movie.

579
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: Okay, those are great answers, Man, Wow, okay, because Predator,

580
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, I had a similar It was Jeff Hurd's

581
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 1: birthday party at his house and we watched it in

582
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: like eighty eight on VHS, and dude, I was like

583
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: scared during it because like, you don't know. You know,

584
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: now that you know everything, you can look back and

585
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: watch it a different way, But when you didn't know

586
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 1: who that monster was, and it was like, like, you know,

587
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: that was a pretty gnarly movie for fourth or fifth

588
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: grade in terms of blood and stuff. So yeah, but

589
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 1: you're right, dude, that, like I was changed. I was

590
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: chilled after watching that. That was intense, man, similar to Matrix.

591
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: But if I if I asked myself, like what, you know,

592
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: theater experiences moved me the most. It's like Karate Kid

593
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: Star You know, I didn't see Star Wars episode four

594
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: in the theater, but it'd be hard not to pick

595
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: that for the answer. Dude. How about Fight Club was

596
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: one two? Because I was so effed up while watching

597
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: it in the theater that for like the next six hours,

598
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: I felt like I was in the movie. Still, you know,

599
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: you ever have that, hass.

600
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it front to back, really, we've been

601
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: over this. Don't you remember I've seen it. I've seen

602
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: every scene, but out of order because I never sat

603
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: down and watched it front to back.

604
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, some people can, you know, have the big reveal

605
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: happen and be like, oh, I saw that coming all along.

606
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: I sometimes have a way of like just staying in

607
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: line with the movie in that movie, like that was.

608
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: That was a crazy ass movie. I mean, to be fair,

609
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: people are gonna people are gonna shoo on this, dude.

610
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: I was so fired up for Blair Witch movie. Do

611
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: you remember how like the Gorilla average you've.

612
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: Ever seen it? I was a boot camp when it

613
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: came out. I've never seen it all right.

614
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: So it when we went to see it, because even

615
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: though the internet's around then, it was like what ninety seven,

616
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: even though the internets around, I didn't have the internet

617
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: at home, Like it wasn't everywhere. It wasn't like now,

618
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't on your phone. And I wasn't sure entering

619
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: the theater if this was a documentary or if this

620
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 1: was a movie. Like you know, you there was some

621
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: of it because of the way they they had really

622
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: they were really smart and how they promoted this movie

623
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: to really leave questions and I and I went there

624
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: that night and I was freaked out while watching it,

625
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: and I was moved. It's not a movie that you

626
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: can rewatch a lot. And there were a lot of

627
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: people who were with me that night in the theater

628
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: were like, man, this is the stupidest movie ever. I

629
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: could predict it all I saw it coming. I don't know,

630
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: I got enveloped in that. Dude. I think that's a

631
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: brilliant ass movie. I don't think people realize what it

632
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: what it how different it was, and how cool it was.

633
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: But Luke my answer, it's going to be Half Baked

634
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: because I have not left in a theater. Austin Power's

635
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: Part two is up there too. In terms of just

636
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: theater physical laughter, dude, Half Baked was one of the

637
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: greatest in movie experiences of all time. I mean it

638
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: was like that, that humor was just so on time

639
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: To be a dirt bag and be like nineteen and

640
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: be watching that in the theater, it's.

641
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: Just the hardest I've laughed in the theater. Was when

642
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: I watched and this was in Valdosta. Was when I

643
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: watched Dumb and Dumber with my brother in the movie theaters.

644
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: That was I mean, piss your pants level of crying.

645
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: It was truly one of the most joyous memories. So

646
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: I might add I might throw that that that log

647
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: onto the fire as well.

648
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: Who do you think won that movie? Lloyd Christmas or

649
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: the other guy?

650
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: I was always a Jim Carrey guy, but Jeff Daniels

651
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: really is such a well rounded and funny actor when

652
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: he when he needs to be the dude, they were

653
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: pretty equal, man, Like that movie doesn't work if they're

654
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 2: not relatively equal. Right, If it's like another right, right,

655
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: has to be a level of balance one way or

656
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: the other. Wow.

657
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: Wow, it took me a wild or it took me

658
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: a few documentaries to realize that, Luke. Okay, yeah, all right, Hey,

659
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: let's stay off combat for a second. This is Jesus

660
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: twenty eight. Would you rather be able to play every

661
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: instrument in the world really well? Or be fluent in

662
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: every single language? Look, I feel like this is a

663
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: question that would keep you up at night debating.

664
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: This is easy answer, easy, Yeah, I'll take every language fluency.

665
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: I knew you were going to take that absolute bullshit, Luke.

666
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: Why what do I need to play the drums and

667
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: the fucking flute for I don't.

668
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: Care you realized if you were one of those geniuses,

669
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: and I know you know there's a lot of them,

670
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: right There's people that can just pick up any instrument.

671
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: They know music so well, they can play it off

672
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: their ear. They could just do anything with anything, and

673
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: they're brilliant. They are the geniuses of this world. My

674
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: mind does not work that way, dude. Forget. I would

675
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: trade the ability to speak for the ability to play

676
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: every single instrument.

677
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: Awesome. Oh I wouldn't. I wouldn't give five dollars for that.

678
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: I mean low priority for me, dude, the level of

679
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: I just can't explain to you. Man, This is the

680
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: best way I can tell you, as someone who's are

681
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: trying to struggle through a language, when you begin to

682
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: get a little bit of depth in that language, it

683
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: is unlocking a new world. It doesn't feel that way.

684
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: It feels like, well, it's just saying the same things

685
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: that I would say in English. But it doesn't work that way.

686
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: Language is a passport to culture. Language is a passport

687
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: to new relationships, new people, new identities, new places. In ways,

688
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: that's simply getting it translated for you. It doesn't give

689
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: you access dude, Like when I go down to Colombia

690
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: and I'm with my wife's family, when I speak a

691
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: little bit of Spanish, I just it's hard to explain

692
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: to you, to really feel it doors open for you

693
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: and they get you get invited places and things that

694
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: they're just there's so much more access to things by

695
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: virtue of having any kind of proficiency in language that

696
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: is just mind altering. And so to have the ability

697
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: to speak Chinese, the able to speak Japanese, the able

698
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: to speak Arabic, these languages that cover vast swaths of

699
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: human population, you would be unlocking access to people and

700
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: cultures and histories and places that you just can't get

701
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: without that language proficiency. You just can't.

702
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: But you gave the like the intelligent world culture answer.

703
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: I gave the like ignorant American living in his own

704
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: bubble answer. But I think the root or the endgame,

705
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: if you will, in both of our answers, involves having

706
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: a superhuman ability to collect more punati. If Jesus twenty

707
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: eighth question came with a time machine, and we could

708
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: go back to like age twenty two with this question,

709
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: which of us does better.

710
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: If I was twenty two? The answer would be instruments.

711
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I still think even if you

712
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: could go to any country and talk your way into

713
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: a into a session, Luke, I feel like I don't

714
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: the Internet. I could just play the international language of

715
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: love on guitar, Luke, and just you know what I'm saying.

716
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: You could. You could if I was twenty two and

717
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: I was interested in just like showing showing off for

718
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: people and trying to get as much you know, of

719
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: the sweet tang as possible. You know, being able to

720
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: jam on the guitar is very valuable. But now that

721
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm older a little bit, man, I wish I could

722
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: speak more languages. I read's a major life regret.

723
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: I wish I could be in a band like the

724
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: band where you know, there's not one true yeah, but

725
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: like everybody could kind of play and sing and write.

726
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: Me.

727
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: I want to be in one of those collectives where

728
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: I could jump around on instrument. I mean I would,

729
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: man if I could just reinvent myself and maybe be

730
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: born in like nineteen fifty two and come up in

731
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies, Luke, I you know what I

732
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: would do. I would just learn how to play every instrument,

733
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: and I'd just bang in bellbox, you know.

734
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: What I mean? Well, dude, half of MK revolves around

735
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: us wishing we could be different people than we are,

736
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: so we could have fucked more chicks as we grew up.

737
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: Ah, that's a generalization, to be fair. Okay, that's that's

738
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: not really the reality of the situation. All right, let's

739
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: go back into you all combat, Luke, because that's you

740
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: know what, we're the best in the world at I've

741
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: got a guy named Johnny Ruckus, and he says, Luke,

742
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: should judges score rounds nine to nine if nothing of

743
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: note happens. I think what he really means to say

744
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: ten ten is what he seems to say. So, Luke,

745
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: you know that I'm friends with some boxing judges that

746
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: are very high profile, and that they tell me they

747
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: are heavily dissuaded from ever doing a ten ten round

748
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: by most state commissions. Like heavily dissuaded, Like I don't

749
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: care if no one threw a punch pick a winner

750
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: in mma, though it's a little bit different. Would you

751
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: feel a ten ten round could help the sport rather

752
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: than heard it?

753
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: When you say help, what does that mean?

754
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: Well, I mean That's why he's asking should should should.

755
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: More like the terms of help. So does help mean

756
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: that you finally have a scorecard that you feel like

757
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: more accurately reflects what happened in the fight, Then I

758
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: think a ten ten is probably helpful. However, one of

759
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: the potential downsides that you have to consider is this

760
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: could fuck up scorecards in a way that we're not

761
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: really ready for or accepting and creates many Like imagine

762
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: if we had three or four x And this is

763
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: probably not true, but just imagine we had three or

764
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: four x the number of draws. I don't think people

765
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: would be thinking of that as help, right, So if

766
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: it had that kind of an effect, that doesn't help

767
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: the sport really in any kind of meaningful way. So,

768
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: like in theory, I definitely get what people are talking about.

769
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, what the fuck happened in that round?

770
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it to one person based off a

771
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: bullshit punch that blah blah blah blah blah, Like it's

772
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: the flimsiest of margins. I get being apprehensive about that,

773
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: But this is what I always say do. This is

774
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: what I fucking always say when the UFC goes to

775
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: places where they self regulate, or really any promotion, any

776
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 2: major promotion, they are in a place where they self regulate,

777
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: they need to take advantage of that and start experimenting

778
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 2: with the rules. I talk about this all the time.

779
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: B see which is the NFL between mean seasons because

780
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: they are not regulated by some government entity. Of course,

781
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: there are other there are other ways that the rules

782
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: get changed, and they have their own procedures for it.

783
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: But if they want to move make the goalposts wider,

784
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: or if they want to change the kickoff rule and

785
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: you know, the person has to catch it on the

786
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: forty or whatever whatever, they can tinker with the format

787
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: between seasons and then see what happens and then keep

788
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: it or adjusted as a consequence. They can make adjustments

789
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: and then ay, because we've just given the rules to

790
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 2: the Department of Motor Vehicles, basically we have to sit

791
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 2: there and take a number and wait and it takes

792
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: forever and it's uneven and we just don't know. We

793
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: need people who have the liberty and the freedom to

794
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: experiment to do just that.

795
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: I think you need an entirely new scoring system that's

796
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: not ten non boxing based, and it's more based on

797
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: I mean, look, when you how amateur wrestling has scored

798
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: on points you acquire throughout by doing things, could there

799
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: be a future in MMA for that?

800
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: So I asked the famous former UFC commentator, Olympic gold

801
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: medalist the Rest in Peace, Jeff Blatnik before he died,

802
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: that exact question. And of course, you know, he came

803
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: from a where you know, five points for a major throw,

804
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: two points for a takedown, one point in college anyway

805
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: for an escape or a push out or whatever. And

806
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: he said, no, you would never want to do that.

807
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: And his argument was because MMA involves so many disparate

808
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 2: composite sports of sambo and judo and wrestling, kickboxing, blah

809
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: blah blah, all the different stuff that you want some

810
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: creative expression as a consequence, and if you put a

811
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: point system on it, you would lose the creative expression.

812
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: Good point. So I think he's probably right.

813
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: And you could also see people try to build leads

814
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: with one dominant thing they're good at and just you know,

815
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: if a takedown's worth you know, five points, just constantly

816
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: take down back. You wouldn't want a manipulation of the game,

817
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: you know. Even further, if we already sometimes don't like

818
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: when people are too wrestling heavy. All right, that's a

819
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: fair that's a fair statement right there. Let's keep the

820
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: combat questions rolling. I've got a guy named og Blackfoot.

821
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: Now do you think that the uh foot became that

822
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: way over time due to abuse and disuse, Luke? Or

823
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: how do you think, like what happened here? Because remember

824
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: and what's that Adam Sandler movie Mister Deeds when Steve

825
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: Buscemi's character had that black toe foot issue. You know

826
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about.

827
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 2: I've never seen Mister Deeds.

828
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so underrated, it really is. I mean it's

829
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: not up it's not up to the level the water

830
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: Boy and the Billy Madison and the Happy Gilmore classics.

831
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: But it's for for second generation Sandler. It's it's really good. Okay,

832
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: But here's the question from good old o G Blackfoot.

833
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: Aside from footwork, what can is he do to mitigate

834
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: the power of poiton? Alex is so good and close

835
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: clinching seems to be dicey, dicey, wow, really gonna add

836
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: that at the end, Luke, I assume they're talking about

837
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: a potential rematch here for the middleway, championship. What can

838
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: is he do to mitigate the power of Pereira?

839
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: How do you mitigate the power of padata aside from

840
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: either blocking a strike before it lands or stopping him

841
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: from throwing it, you can't. I mean, his power is

842
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: his power.

843
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: O G wants us to say, well, how about stomping

844
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: him til he gets a blackfoot? Like that's what he

845
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: wants us to say.

846
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you could stomp his way through.

847
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, for me, I said this before,

848
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: I'm kind of repeating myself here a little bit, Like

849
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 2: is he's footwork is great, his lateral movement is great,

850
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: and he was compromised by the calf kicks and that

851
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: it was what it was. But I'm still gonna go

852
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: back to it. Like I like is he as a

853
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: person and as a champ more than I've liked most

854
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: fighters like by a long stretch. But at the same time,

855
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: you know, I try to recognize his weaknesses as best

856
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: I can, and I do think the fact that he

857
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: doesn't have offensive wrestling in his back pocket in a

858
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: better way. It really hurt him in that fight. I

859
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: know everyone wants to make it about the calf kicks. Yeah,

860
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: but I tend to think if you could reliably get

861
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: the takedown, people like, well, how do you know how

862
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: good prayers takedown defenses? You're right to that point, it's

863
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: somewhat unclear, but to the extent it's been tested, it

864
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: hasn't looked very good, And so I tend to think

865
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 2: that was something there for the taking, and I think

866
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: that's a great way to mitigate it. You know. Now,

867
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 2: if he had great takedown defense, then I really don't

868
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: know what the answer is, you know, like, is he's

869
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: hard to take down against defense anyway? But yeah, if

870
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: you have a better answer, I'd love to hear it.

871
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: Well, first, Mikey did wrong me, Well done, Luy. In

872
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: mid time, Madam Sandler had the blackfoot. Uh, Buscemi had

873
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: the weird eyes, the crazy eyes. Excuse me, Luke, and

874
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: the Butler member he hits, Oh you didn't see the movie, Okay,

875
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: spoiler alert regarding at Asoynia though, Luke, Yeah, I mean

876
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: you know what worked against parreeda parada parada? Yeah, exactly

877
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: what is he did for four plus rounds with the

878
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: exception of getting slowed by the calfkick. So it's a

879
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: major exception, right, because you know is he to hang

880
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: close enough and is he wasn't trying to be a

881
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: Counterpunchry wasn't hanging back, dude, he was he was coming.

882
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: I mean, look, that was a That fight wasn't a

883
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: fun fight, right it was. It was a good ass fight.

884
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: And I think that's what's fueling is he's confidence. I

885
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 1: talked about when when Ariel interviewed him after the fight,

886
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: and people are like, hey, BC was delusional. No, I

887
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: just think he's really confident and knows that for the

888
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: most part, he's got Parada figured out. Seriously, for the

889
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: most part he does.

890
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: The most part he does, that's true.

891
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: But trying to execute that is where it's not easy.

892
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: Because Alex, let's give him credit, is uniquely great. Some

893
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: of the things we don't have full answers yet. We've

894
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: had that debate before. But he's uniquely great in some

895
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: very scary areas. That makes it hard. But look, would

896
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: you identify as legally as an out of Sonya simp

897
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: or just an appreciator?

898
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it depends what that's a better question for

899
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: other people. I'm sure that they would accuse me of

900
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: being a simp because you know, they read at a

901
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: third grade level.

902
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, but when Aerol came at him, like you know, Israel,

903
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: people are mad at me for saying this, but that

904
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: stoppage was bad. Blah blah blah. That was very simpy.

905
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't see that. I didn't think it was

906
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was a bad stoppage, did you No, it.

907
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: Was right on. It was fine. Dude. The guy's hanging

908
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: over with his like he's getting lit up. I mean,

909
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: it's just, you know, we all want every fight and

910
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: we want we want every fight to be no until

911
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: they're dead. But I mean, look, which reminds me if

912
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: you haven't seen replays of like really big boxing matches

913
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: from like the forties, fifties, sixties lately, dude, they were

914
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 1: way more brutal back then. You know what I'm saying,

915
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: Like in terms of like you're knocked down, but you're

916
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: back up. There's no checking system if you're back up,

917
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: your back up, and they send you back out there,

918
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: and you know, depending on how far you go back.

919
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes boxers were allowed to stand way closer to the

920
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: downfighter than the neutral corner idea. So it's like all

921
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: that stuff changed over the years, Like for a reason

922
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: for a major reason. Right, it's already brutal enough. You

923
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: don't need these you know, built in things right there,

924
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: even in a championship fight, even in the fifth round,

925
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: if somebody's just getting lit up and they're not firing back,

926
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: they're trying to defend, but they're just get when your

927
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: body language is like mannequin, dude, Pinocchio, like you're gonna

928
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: get stopped by a referees just what it is.

929
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I mean you can make combat sports

930
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: to be have more finality, you know, you can go

931
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 2: back to fifteen rounds and boxing and stuff like that,

932
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: but you're just gonna get a lot more people hurt.

933
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: So like, well they're gonna give away their career in

934
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: one night. A lot of people will, That's right.

935
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: I mean so so like you kind of have to

936
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: sacrifice a little bit of direct clarity for health and

937
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: safety and that that getting that line right is not easy,

938
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: but pushing it more towards health and safety is long

939
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: term much better.

940
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, how would you rate our questions from our

941
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: fans up to this point? Out of you know, of

942
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: a ten ten points, I give it.

943
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: I give a solid eight and a half maybe nine

944
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: that's good questions.

945
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 1: That's decent. All right, here we go. Let's go over

946
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: to some random questions here from Michael. How much money

947
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: would it take to have Luke fight Dan Snyder uninterrupted

948
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: for a maximum of five minutes on the streets of Washington,

949
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: d C.

950
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: I don't as much money as it would take to

951
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: exonerate me legally. That's it.

952
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really do it.

953
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: I do it for free as a public service.

954
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: So like in his in his way of thinking about this,

955
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: he's basically saying, how much money would it take to

956
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: get Dan Snyder to agree?

957
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: Oh? I mean if Bezos came out and was like,

958
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: I'll give you two x the highest value appraisal of

959
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: the team to fight.

960
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, morning time, Yeah on the street, Rocky five all

961
00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: over again. Yeah, weird question.

962
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: Be offered him fifteen billion for the for the commanders?

963
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: Would he take it.

964
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: To that real question? Here you go, This will define

965
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: who you are as a man. Okay, because it's a

966
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: lot easy to talk that game. But let's say you

967
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: are walking around DC with Tukey and your lovely wife

968
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: and it's just you know, your guys are out for

969
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: the day. You turn the corner to go back in

970
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: the parking lot to your car, and Daniel Snyder standing

971
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: right there, and he just gets off a cell phone

972
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: call and he's in a hurry, and you're going to

973
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: cross right past him in the alley on your way.

974
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: I would definitely tell him fuck you. He would just

975
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: let you I've done this, dude. People do that to

976
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: politicians in town all the time. All the time.

977
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: It's who have you done that to? Will you reveal

978
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: who you've done that to?

979
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: I did it to John Bolton one time as he

980
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: was walking down the street. Did it to John Bolton?

981
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: What did you say?

982
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: What did I say to John Bolton? This was years ago.

983
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: I think I just said, hey, fuck you, Hey John,

984
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: fuck you. I've seen guys, you know, do worse than

985
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 2: that when politicians are out, Dude, I've seen I've seen

986
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 2: Ted Cruz get heck. I mean, that's not a big deal.

987
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: You see the motherfucker heck one all the time. But

988
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: I find in front.

989
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: Of your wife and kid, you'd be like, hey, Dan Snyder, like,

990
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: thanks for ruining my childhood?

991
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah?

992
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: What about those rings? What about Joe Riggs?

993
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 2: Bro Joe? About j Riggs?

994
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, who's it wasn't there a full No, I'm

995
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: thinking of a who was the other back when Ernest

996
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: Byner was a halfback, who was like the power back.

997
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: They brought it Gerald Riggs. There it is Gerald.

998
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: Okay. Uh, you know I was a big art monk guy.

999
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: That was a big art monk guy. But when I

1000
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: was a kid. But here's one thing you got you

1001
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: gotta appreciate about Dan Snyder that like doesn't exist, or

1002
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: I should say, that is so unusual you gotta do.

1003
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: This is a town you gotta remember, right, like where

1004
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: anyone who like, why do politicians run for office? Oh?

1005
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: I want to do good for the people. Get the

1006
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: fuck out of here. I mean, that's a little bit

1007
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: of that, But mostly it's because they want to be

1008
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: seen and heard and praised and on TV. And they've

1009
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: got some insatiable internal desire to control other people and

1010
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: make a big show of it. They want to be seen.

1011
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: This is a town where, like there's maximum pressure on

1012
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: being seen. Who's at the parties, who's at the ball,

1013
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: who's at the gala, who's at this place, who's at

1014
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 2: that place? It's maximum pressure. And Dan Snyder is never

1015
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 2: at any of these things because he is reviled by everybody.

1016
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: You've never seen him, Like, think about this. You see

1017
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: bezos walk red carpets of like the Kennedy Center opening

1018
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: blah blah blah or whatever. You never see Dan Snyder

1019
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: at these things. Ever. He is persona non grata. You

1020
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 2: don't have any cross paths kind of moment with him ever,

1021
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,479
Speaker 2: and you do for like lots of other people who

1022
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: are out and about in town. So he's he is.

1023
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: Like you know, there's a lot of people who are

1024
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: hated in this town, but like by every measurement, I

1025
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: don't know of a single person who likes Dan Snyder. Republican, Democrat, left, right,

1026
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: you name it. There is one thing that unites this

1027
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: town and it's fuck that guy.

1028
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow. You know I've told you before about like

1029
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: when you grow up going to the baseball games and

1030
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: the bleachers in Yankee Stadium, you develop, you know, or

1031
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: just New York in general, you develop what you believe,

1032
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: a general attitude and demeanor that you can be at

1033
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: a sporting event that's normal to you, but to other

1034
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: people is like the hell is wrong with you? And

1035
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, in the regular field bleachers, when I said

1036
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: those things about Jim Edmund's mom. In two thousand and one,

1037
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: I got, you know, I got sold out by by

1038
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: the Cubs fans and got you know, yelled at by

1039
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: security and threatened to thrown out. So I got an introduction.

1040
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: At the rest of the world isn't this way, But

1041
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean, like it was just right a passage. If

1042
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: I went to a minor league baseball game, you would

1043
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: get drunk, try to go near the bullpen and try

1044
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: to entice one of the pictures to fight you. Right,

1045
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: that's just like what you did, right. So I I

1046
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 1: was at the two thousand and two and NBA Draft

1047
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: at the theater at Madison Square Garden, I with cousin Tim,

1048
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: and I waited out all day for tickets. And you

1049
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: know when Yao Ming got drafted number one, and he

1050
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: was like up on the video screen of his family

1051
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: in China with like a video feed, and you know,

1052
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: we just kept giving him the finger and like swearing

1053
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: him out because he wasn't American And that was ignorant, Luke.

1054
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: But then when remember Jervis Peterson from UH Season one

1055
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: of Survivor, Jervis Patterson, Remember that guy, No, he was

1056
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: the black guy, and season one a survivor, real nice guy.

1057
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: He was randomly there in the crowd and I like

1058
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: hauled him over. It's like, yo, Jervis, come over here, man,

1059
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, you're fifteen minutes of fame.

1060
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: Just ended best of luck to you. You know, It's

1061
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 1: like that was a dick move, Luke, I felt, Yeah.

1062
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: It's one thing to heck It's one thing to heckle

1063
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: politicians who get us into war like I did. And

1064
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: the Hug is out there heckling dudes doing their job

1065
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 2: for a sports team.

1066
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I did get Jose Mesa when he

1067
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: was a reliever for the Phillies to get me removed

1068
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: from from the bleachers.

1069
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: Well, see, who's the most famous person you just bumped into?

1070
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: And you can't count like something at a boxing event,

1071
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: like something unrelated.

1072
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, by the way to Yeoman for cheering

1073
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: and booing him just for not being American. But Luke,

1074
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: that was a different time in my life. Okay, okay,

1075
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: outside of at an event, outside of going to like

1076
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: NBA All Star weekend and hanging out by the hotel

1077
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: to try to run into you know, you're talking about

1078
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: a random in person moment.

1079
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like you were. You were out with the

1080
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 2: family on a day or vacation or something, and boom,

1081
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: there they are.

1082
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: Man, I don't have great answers for that. When I

1083
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: went to the airport in seventh grade, JFK Airport and

1084
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: the New York Jets were they're flying commercial, and there

1085
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: was a long line of them outside of like the

1086
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: new stand before they got on the plane, and I

1087
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: got to like wait and line to get an autograph

1088
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: from everybody. But they were probably like three and thirteen

1089
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: that year and sucked with like Ken O'Brien and Freeman McNeil.

1090
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: So you know, I wasn't like overly exciting. I don't

1091
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: have a great answer. Did you randomly run into somebody

1092
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,959
Speaker 1: as a kid? Like some people have met Hulk Hogan

1093
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: in an airport in like nineteen eighty six, and I

1094
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: thought they, like, you know, met Jesus or something.

1095
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: You know, I don't have anything major quite like that.

1096
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: See all of my celebrity encounters I just shouldn't say all,

1097
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: but the vast majority have happened obviously with this job. Yeah,

1098
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of like somebody real big that

1099
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 2: we ran into. I'd have to I'd have to noodle it.

1100
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: I'd have to remember.

1101
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: Offhand, well, when I was flying for this job that

1102
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: time in first class, when I had the lay down

1103
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: seat with the bed, I told you I had Damon

1104
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: Wayne's behind me in Flavor Flavor two seats over to

1105
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: the left.

1106
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: That was.

1107
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: That was pretty cool.

1108
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: Well, this isn't so much a celebrity encounter, but I

1109
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 2: one time took a commercial flight with some w NBA team,

1110
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: the Lynx. I think I don't know who they were,

1111
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: Minnesota Lynx. And you know, I feel like I can

1112
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 2: say this because I have seen numerous female soccer journalists

1113
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 2: put together long threads of who the hottest men are

1114
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: at the World Cup. But I couldn't believe, Like, dude,

1115
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: you know everyone jokes about the WNBA. I couldn't believe

1116
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 2: these women were like very attractive, like numerous versions of them.

1117
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, this is and they're all They

1118
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: were all taller than me too. By the way, So.

1119
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: Would it have been extra native tongues or an ability

1120
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: to play guitar in that moment that could have gotten

1121
00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: you to the finish line?

1122
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 2: See? Well, you know, if I had a good French

1123
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 2: I could have gone to them and been like Pepi

1124
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: la pew, except hands off. You know what I'm saying.

1125
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go with that one, Luke. I feel

1126
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: bad that I clowned Jervis like that, and that I

1127
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: told many minor league pictures that they'll never go anywhere

1128
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: in life and they'll end up sitting next to me.

1129
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean. I mean, there isn't

1130
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: you know a time in your life when you look back, like, man,

1131
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: I was a dick for no reason, just trying to

1132
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: fit in. It's trying to belong, you know. It's how

1133
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: I was raised, Luke.

1134
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: Do we were raised in a culture of just absolutely

1135
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 2: abusing athletes, Yes.

1136
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: Or each other on a regular basis.

1137
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, for each other, that's true.

1138
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: Let's go back to combat here. I've got one from

1139
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: Will Holden. One. He says top three all time boxers

1140
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: best suited for success in MMA. Now that's I don't

1141
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: always love that question. It's like, how do we know

1142
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: if a boxer.

1143
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: I feel like I have a decent read on this.

1144
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: I feel like I do.

1145
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean, is it based on them? You know, Oh,

1146
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: that boxer has a wrestling background, so it's definitely him.

1147
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: Is it based on well, in.

1148
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: That case, would be Bud Crawford, Right, Bud Crawford would

1149
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: be the would be the answer. But I actually don't

1150
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: think that. Here's what I Here's what I think. I

1151
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: when I think of somebody who's got a boxing style

1152
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: that would translate to MMA, and then you could build

1153
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: the other components around, like do they have the like,

1154
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: what's a good natural ingredient to have in boxers? I'm

1155
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: gonna say boxers who are fleet of foot, like really

1156
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: good footwork and have some pop if you're like so

1157
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: for example in a way in a way again, who

1158
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: knows how well he would get the wrestling or the

1159
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: jiu jitsu. You don't know, But I feel like his

1160
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: striking style would work real well for MMA, given all

1161
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: the things he can do.

1162
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: Right, That's fair. That's fair. I just think it's it's

1163
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: a hard question to answer unless you're like, well, hey,

1164
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: didn't RUGERU used to train with him and may him. Yeah,

1165
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like a little bit.

1166
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: But wouldn't the answer to be Bud Crawford or even

1167
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: like a Kermit Centron before he got completely washed, didn't

1168
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: Kit didn' Kurmit like wrestle.

1169
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: He had a good enough wrestling background But when he

1170
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: was throwing out the idea that was like, you know,

1171
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, back when MMA was at such

1172
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 1: a still infantile process, that the idea of transitioning because

1173
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: you had, you know, two foundational skills in his case

1174
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: with wrestling and boxing. Back then, we would be like, yeah,

1175
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: let's see it. Man. Nowadays you'd still have doubts, right, legit, Yes,

1176
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,959
Speaker 1: I mean, let's give credit to what Colarisa Shield is trying.

1177
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: But still you'd have doubts. All right, Luke, let's hear

1178
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: from right and wrong. Christian Lee of One Championship, you know,

1179
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: the new two division title holder. He called out Islam

1180
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: Mahachev this week. Any dream cross promotion matchups for twenty

1181
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: twenty three? Question mark? What would it take to get

1182
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: Dana to allow a cross promotion with another organization? So

1183
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: we are going to see cross promotion New Year's Eve

1184
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: between Rizen and Belatore. So that's awesome, But Luke, let's

1185
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 1: start off with the latter part of that question. What

1186
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: would it take? What literally would have to happen for

1187
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: Dana White to entertain a cross promotion MMA fight with

1188
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: another organization. I'm not talking about Connor Boxing Floyd. I'm

1189
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: talking about like you know, you know what I mean here.

1190
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: It would take him not being a member of the

1191
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 2: organization and for their culture to completely change. I mean,

1192
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: it's not it's not overstate this. It's not possible. It's

1193
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: not possible. Like why on earth would a monopoly?

1194
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: Okay, the last time it almost happened, and this is

1195
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: the reason why it didn't happen, was when Fedor Amilionenko

1196
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: was secretly negotiating with UFC right to fight Randon.

1197
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: You know, there was a time before that Pride was

1198
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 2: still thriving when Chuck went over to compete I think

1199
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: the two thousand and three Right Middleight Grand Prix or

1200
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: whatever it was, and he got wrecked by Rampage.

1201
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: But like the last time that, it was like a

1202
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: discussion could it happen? And it didn't, probably exactly because

1203
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: of that, because UFC wasn't willing to co promote with

1204
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: m one in Vedummi as he used to call him,

1205
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: like Scott Koker was at the time. So yeah, I

1206
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: mean they would have to either lose their market share

1207
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: to a level where it would be something that would

1208
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: make sense for them. But what about that other thing?

1209
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: What if there is a phenomenon. What if the Tiger

1210
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: Woods of MMA comes and what if that fighter it

1211
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: doesn't look at like, well, hey, I'll win all these

1212
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 1: titles elsewhere and then I'll go to the UFC instead.

1213
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: Instead says I know who I am. I could be

1214
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: the all time gre I'm an alien, Right, I'm Tiger

1215
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: Woods meets you know whomever? You got to come to me?

1216
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: Could somebody ever get that famous where the UFC is like,

1217
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: all right, we'll put our best fighter up against him

1218
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: in a cross promotion to networks.

1219
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: Only if they that only if they then signed him,

1220
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: Like only if they're like, for example, you did an

1221
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: interview with de Ritter. So let's imagine the UFC was like,

1222
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: holy shit, we got to get this guy. They would

1223
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 2: sign him and then put him against their best. They

1224
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: wouldn't put their best against him as a member of

1225
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: another organization. It's just not going to happen. I know

1226
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: it sounds fun now I will say it probably also

1227
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: won't happen. But much more on the table would be

1228
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: bell tor versus PFL or PFL versus one or some

1229
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 2: combination therein more peer to peer organization, but like bellatore

1230
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: and one and PFL. They're not peers with the UFC

1231
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: or not. They can have divisions that are like rivally good,

1232
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: like they're they're two o five and Beltre is obviously

1233
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: very very good that can rival or whatever. But like

1234
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 2: as an organization in totality, nobody can. It's not possible.

1235
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 1: I'm wondering and doubting though, under my fake scenario, there

1236
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: if if just being the next Tiger Woods of this

1237
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: sport right, just being which is a lot like when

1238
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: it when it when it when When when aj McKee

1239
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: beat Pipple, there was that like feeling for a moment

1240
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: like oh my god, like how like is this guy

1241
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: you know, really gonna be the Mayweather vem may Like

1242
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: he says you, well, that's a huge win, and obviously

1243
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: you know he's human by the way, he's also still great.

1244
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: But is it enough to just be that under this

1245
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: scenario to get the UFC's attention, even with your scenario

1246
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: that okay, we'll do one crow promotion then you sign

1247
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: with us, or does that person also have to be

1248
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: a celebrity elsewhere? Do they have to be like Lebron

1249
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: James's son, or do they have to be like you.

1250
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: Know, you here's something to think about. Imagine if the

1251
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 2: UFC really wanted to get into China or something, or

1252
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 2: even just like Japan. I mean, they're already in Japan,

1253
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 2: but you know, imagine if there was so for Here's again,

1254
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm not a pro wrestling guy, but as I understand it,

1255
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: because Ushi Sakuraba was a big deal for a couple

1256
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 2: of reasons. One was he obviously very good and he

1257
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: was beating all the gracies. They they called him the

1258
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 2: Gracy Hunter all the stuff. But he was equally famous

1259
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 2: in pro wrestling. And the way someone explained it to

1260
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 2: me at the time was, imagine if Hulk Hogan at

1261
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 2: his peak or something near it. Because we grew up

1262
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: in the eighties when Hulk Hogan was like a cultural phenomenon,

1263
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, before he realized that, you know, he

1264
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: was just gonna bang his friends, wives and shit. But

1265
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: back then he was a huge I mean, dude, Hulk

1266
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: Hogan was massively popular in the eighties. Okay. My understanding

1267
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: was soccar Raba occupied a space where he was like,

1268
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: imagine if Hulk Hogan went and did MMA and was

1269
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 2: actually like kicking everyone's ass at it. You know, that's

1270
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: the kind of equivalent that soccer Raba was. Now, maybe

1271
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: maybe if the UFC was trying to get into a

1272
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: uh some kind of market China or whatever, and some

1273
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: organization had this guy, right, that was just I mean,

1274
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: the door that the key that unlocked every fucking door

1275
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: they could possibly want. Under that scenario, maybe maybe, maybe

1276
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: maybe something could be worked out. But even then, what

1277
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: I think they would do is just try and sign

1278
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: the guy away. I really do.

1279
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: All right To close up right and Wrong's question, I

1280
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: want to ask you, what what would be your dream

1281
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: cross promotion matchup if no red tape existed for next year?

1282
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: What's the one fight with people in separate organizations that

1283
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: would get you the most fired up.

1284
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: Nemcov versus Deritter would be Wow, that's a curveball.

1285
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: Damn wow.

1286
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Nemcov versus Deritor would be fucking awesome. That would

1287
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: be just be a sick, sick fight. Who that's a

1288
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: great question, dude.

1289
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: Rittor is really good.

1290
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: People just have no idea how good he is. He's

1291
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: he's eventually probably gonna sign with UFC and he's going

1292
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: to smoke some people's best best fighter that they love.

1293
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: What about UBC as I noodle this through. What else

1294
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: stands out to you?

1295
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: You know? Uh Stamp Fairtech's versus uh Cheyenne Warrior Princess

1296
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: would be a hell of a cross promotion fight. Whoko'ld

1297
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: be a war? Uh No, you know, I mean right?

1298
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: You know right Usmanner Maga Madoff is going to enter

1299
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: this equation soon. You would you could assume, you know,

1300
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: as much as that one.

1301
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: Pit Bull versus Volkanovsky would be fun.

1302
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, that would be amazing.

1303
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: I would favor Volkanofski to win, but I pitbull is

1304
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: not to be trifled with. Like, that's a good fight.

1305
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: Kayla Amanda would be hella interesting?

1306
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'di or even Pitbull Max Holloway, I'd be sighed

1307
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: for both of those.

1308
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, indeed, all right, thank you? Right and wrong?

1309
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: Look I don't want to stop. Don't make me stop

1310
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: at all? Right, good, thank you. I'm glad you we're

1311
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: willing to give this to the fans for their holiday. Uh. Here,

1312
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: let's go back to random. Here. This is from Melissa

1313
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: what would be your life's soundtrack? You get to choose

1314
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: your top three songs only, Uh, how do you define

1315
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: what she's actually asking here?

1316
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: Luke, I Come Blood, fucked with a knife and uh

1317
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: and uh uh Walking death Terror and I touched myself

1318
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: excuse me, death Walking.

1319
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: I Touched myself by the de Vinyls would also be

1320
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: a big part of view the soundtrack of your life, Luke.

1321
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 2: The soundtrack of my life? Like if I'm thinking about

1322
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: like the most popular songs that I listened to through

1323
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: big stages of my life, does that kind of.

1324
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I asked you for a definition. Does

1325
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: it mean like if you picked My Way by Sinatra?

1326
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: Does that you know that song defines what I did

1327
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: in my life? No one told me what to do, right,

1328
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: fuck them? I get that? Or does it mean what

1329
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: you're saying? What? What? What would be the per like you know,

1330
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: send me charm Life by you know, the Third Eye

1331
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,479
Speaker 1: Blind Luke could be a good soundtrack track for my life,

1332
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: no question about it, all right.

1333
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to answer this in that way,

1334
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: I will say, BC, let me ask, Let me flip

1335
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: this question a little bit. What is a song that

1336
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: you really I mean really love like it actually like

1337
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: means a lot to you that I would be surprised

1338
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: to learn. I have an answer for you that I

1339
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: think you might.

1340
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: Well, we did this. This was a question of us

1341
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: at one of these type of videos a year ago,

1342
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: and we both ranked in the moment. You know songs

1343
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: that lyrics well it was it was worded under the

1344
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: way that like lyrically, what songs just move you and

1345
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: inspire you? Or whatever? What is your answer? What are

1346
01:00:59,160 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: you let me see you?

1347
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: Answer would be like Morrissey's obviously a jackass or whatever.

1348
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, how Soon is Now? By the Smiths man,

1349
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: I love it.

1350
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: I don't know that one. I don't know.

1351
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 2: I don't know how Soon is Now?

1352
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: Never got into Morrissey or the Smiths or you know.

1353
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 2: I am human and I and I need to be loved.

1354
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just getting I'm just discovering new wave

1355
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: right now. The first two RIM records are insane.

1356
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: Luke Night Swimming by RIM is also one of my

1357
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: favorite favorite favorite I.

1358
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: Thought I knew who Arim was. I had no freaking idea.

1359
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 2: The first they're talented dude dif' from Athtons, Georgia and Athens,

1360
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 2: Georgia is like it's a it's not quite right, but

1361
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: it's a little bit like not It's like Austin, Texas,

1362
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: ten years ago. It's got a music scene and like

1363
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 2: all of this, like you know, cultural stuff happening in

1364
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: this little hub inside Georgia connected to the university and everything.

1365
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 2: That's where they're from us. Where arem is from there?

1366
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: From Athens? Like it's uh, dude, RM is great. They're great.

1367
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: People have to understand. It was very easy our age

1368
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: And I didn't come from Georgia to hate Arim because

1369
01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: the first time I probably really knew them was that

1370
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: early nineties MTV commercial run where Michael stipees being you know,

1371
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: the champion of everything at a time where it was

1372
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: hard to do that. And I think some of their

1373
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: singles at the time that were big radio or video

1374
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: hits where they sucked, you know what I mean. They

1375
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: were like they were laying at that moment, you know,

1376
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: when I was I want to hear Losing my religion

1377
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: when I was twelve. No, I appreciate the shit out

1378
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: of the instrumentation in that song and the deep message

1379
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: that you know, it is about relationships, not actually about religion,

1380
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean everybody heard, so it was

1381
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: like that's the only thing you knew of them. They

1382
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: were easy to hate because they like a lot of

1383
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: great bands that have endured, they've gone to different lanes

1384
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: genre wise. But you know, if you already an ri infan,

1385
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: you know how brilliant they are. But holy shit, those

1386
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: first two records are just They're just different, man. There's

1387
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,479
Speaker 1: an energy to them. They don't sound of their time,

1388
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: even though they are. They really just it's just. But

1389
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: there's a track by, uh, separately from this conversation by

1390
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: Ryan Adams called Winding Wheel, My Winding Wheel, that it

1391
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: would be a soundtrack for me, that the lyrics could

1392
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: move me to tears that kind of stuff. I mean,

1393
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm a big sap. Look, there's a lot of great,

1394
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 1: great songs lyrically that can just you know, take me there.

1395
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, that's probably just sad, sappy stuff. You know,

1396
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna host breakup music post There's nothing better than

1397
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: post breakup music. There's nothing better than even when you're

1398
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: in a nothing worse. Man, I'm happily married. Yeah, if

1399
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: I hear the perfect post breakup song that like, you know,

1400
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: triggers something from like two thousand and three, you're just like, uh, yeah,

1401
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: you're back in the feudal position.

1402
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: Luke.

1403
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: You know that's very emo of me. I know that, okay,

1404
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: but I try to show it all.

1405
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 2: What's like, what's a post breakup song? You played over

1406
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 2: and over again?

1407
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: So many of them? Okay, so many.

1408
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: My big one was you're gonna laugh at this, But

1409
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 2: it wasn't on purpose. It just kind of found you know,

1410
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 2: some stuff just finds you and you're it just sticks.

1411
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 2: Beethoven's Owed to joys more like yeah, yeah, but if

1412
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 2: you think about it, it's got this. If you've ever

1413
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: heard it done by an orchestra, it starts off real

1414
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: it's just like almost like the bassline begins to you

1415
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 2: know what, bak you know what I mean?

1416
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: He knew what it was like to deal with bitches,

1417
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: you know, he just he was on top of that.

1418
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: Was that was the secret to his music. It explains

1419
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: why Yeah.

1420
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, Beethoven's O Ta Joy was a

1421
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 2: big one for me.

1422
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I could name some sappy stuff, but

1423
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: you'd probably think I'm lamer than I already am. So

1424
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: let's keep this conversation moving in because I'm gonna lose

1425
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: you eventually, and then this video is gonna end, Luke,

1426
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: that's right.

1427
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 2: Eventually, I'm gonna be like Hey, I gotta go do

1428
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: my other job even though I haven't.

1429
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: Ye go ship my pants or something. There, Let's go

1430
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: over here to a'm adais x l o is call

1431
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: from The Walking Dead the worst character to appear in

1432
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: a serialized show. If not, then who? I have never

1433
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: seen The Walking Dead, So you're gonna have to handle this, Luke.

1434
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So I mean again, someone who's gonna who read

1435
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 2: the comics and we guys know what happened in new comics.

1436
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: Don't give a fuck. I'm not reading a zombie comic book.

1437
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 2: Fuck your life, okay, and if you did, you could

1438
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 2: have spent your time better just eating paint chips or

1439
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: you know, committing murders. It would have been a better

1440
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: use of your time anyway. So I've only ever seen

1441
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 2: the show, okay. Carl was the son of basically the

1442
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: main protagonist and the main protagonist this, dude, I can't

1443
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 2: explain to you, so stressed out, so beat up from life,

1444
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 2: losing loved ones left and right, and his son was

1445
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 2: a bitch ass teenage whiner and a half. Again they

1446
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 2: say in the comics that wasn't really the case, but

1447
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 2: in the TV show, dude, every fucking week. Every fucking week,

1448
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 2: I would tune in be like, please let the zombies

1449
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: eat this motherfucker today, Please get rid of this free

1450
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 2: loading piece of shit. You know what I mean. Him

1451
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: is the fucking worst. But there was another guy early

1452
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: on the zombies did eat his bitch ass. There was

1453
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 2: an old guy and like seasons like one through three,

1454
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: I want to say, when they were still outside of

1455
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 2: Atlanta trying to get to the CDC, there was this

1456
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: old dude and all he ever did, all he ever

1457
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 2: did was complain that, you know, Carl's dad's name is Rick,

1458
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: that Rick's plans weren't this they weren't, that this isn't

1459
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: gonna work, never had a constructive solution, never lived a glove, nothing,

1460
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: and the zombies ate him. I remember when the zombies

1461
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 2: ate NBC. I was on my feet being like, yes,

1462
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 2: fucking tear this motherfucker's guts out. Fuck this guy, finally,

1463
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 2: fuck him, finally, finally, finally.

1464
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: Mikey offering Skyler from Breaking Bad as an awful hated Skyler.

1465
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you I didn't love her. Don't get

1466
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: me wrong. I didn't think she was a great character.

1467
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna call bullshit on this one. I think

1468
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: people hate Skyler because they hate women. I really believe that.

1469
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: Wow, what about me saying met Paul Molly during Patty

1470
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: pimblet fights.

1471
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 2: Dude, she was enjoying her I mean it's not for

1472
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: me either, but she was enjoying herself. You're just a hater.

1473
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: I just joking with you right there.

1474
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, you never see on a backup step? Did

1475
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 2: you never see Breaking Bad?

1476
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: So my you know, my good friend Eric Raskin from

1477
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: the Showtime boxing podcast Raskin in Mulvaney. He and Bill Detlof,

1478
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: another great boxing writer podcaster, they did a podcast for

1479
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 1: every single I think Breaking Bad episode, So I was like,

1480
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: I love their podcast work together, so I wanted to

1481
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: do that. So I got a hyped up. I'm like,

1482
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do Breaking Bad. I don't know what happened

1483
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: to me, dude. I watched an episode and a half

1484
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: and it's not like I didn't like it, but for

1485
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: some reason, I just felt like it wasn't enough for

1486
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: me where I'm ready to actually go all in and

1487
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: watch every single episode and listen to the podcast after

1488
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: each episode and just get all jacked up, like I

1489
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: think I just finished watching The Wire from start to finish.

1490
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: For like, the third.

1491
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 2: Wire is a hard act to follow, So I.

1492
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: Was like, I'm ready for the next drug. Let's do it,

1493
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:26,959
Speaker 1: you know, and.

1494
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 2: I probably listen, still listen, listen. I'll say this, Breaking Bad,

1495
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 2: it's the Wire is a hard act to follow. It's

1496
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 2: a really hard act to follow. But Breaking Bad's good, dude,

1497
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 2: it's really good. I really enjoyed it. My wife really enjoyed.

1498
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 2: It's probably the favorite. It's probably my favorite show that

1499
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 2: my wife and I watched together. Yeah, we're sad when

1500
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 2: it ended. And here's the thing. It's like, dude, Skyler

1501
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 2: was annoying, but she was like trying to hold the

1502
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 2: family together while this guy was out there just cooking meth,

1503
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: you know, and he like she was trying to get

1504
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 2: in the way of that. In ways she didn't quite understand,

1505
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 2: Like nothing ever made sense to her. But like in

1506
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 2: the end, she cheated on him. Oh that's right, she

1507
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: did cheat on him. Yeah, but dude, he wasn't absent.

1508
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: Dude.

1509
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 2: Walter White, people want to make Walter White to be

1510
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: some hero. Walter White was a bad person. He was

1511
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: a bad father, he was a bad husband. He tried

1512
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 2: to put money together for them, which I think they

1513
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: got very little of in the end and maybe nothing

1514
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 2: in the end. He eventually abandoned them and then fucking died.

1515
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 2: Like the true story of Breaking Bad was this guy

1516
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: who had been shit on in life and didn't get

1517
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 2: the big breaks he deserved, got a cancer diagnosis and

1518
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 2: then decided he wanted to cook meth or stumbled into

1519
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 2: cooking meth and then realized it would be lucrative and

1520
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 2: did that as a way to take care of his family.

1521
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: But he turns from that into just a drug kingpin

1522
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 2: who would just kill anyone who got in his way

1523
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 2: and turned into a bad person and he ran over

1524
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 2: his family in the end. So in the end, Skyler

1525
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: was annoying. She was annoying, but she got fucked over,

1526
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 2: like she got majorly. The character got majorly fucked over

1527
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 2: by a guy who was not a good person.

1528
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: Who's a more annoying character for you, Steve Rkle, Kimmy

1529
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: Gibbler from Full House or jar Jar Binks from Episode one, Dude.

1530
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 2: Jar jar Binks, I mean they should have just dropped

1531
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,839
Speaker 2: a nuclear bomb on the Gungans and called.

1532
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: That's that's harsh. Luke you know, I stand by the

1533
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,560
Speaker 1: Gungans there. They were redeemed, they were warriors. Okay, you

1534
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We got into the.

1535
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 2: Underwater tadpole freeloaders.

1536
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: But when it was time to throw down, they were

1537
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:20,759
Speaker 1: Chewbacca like true or false?

1538
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 2: I mean sort of. They didn't have that chewbac about

1539
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 2: it about it.

1540
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: No, they all fairness b C.

1541
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 2: Not many do I.

1542
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: I you know, maybe it was the factory river, factory

1543
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: town and the river that.

1544
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 2: Say Mikey is saying that Skuyler turned the sun against

1545
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 2: Walter White. No, Walter White turned to family against himself.

1546
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 2: Not true. Now I don't agree with that at all.

1547
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: Would you think White.

1548
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: Was fun as a character to follow? But he was

1549
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 2: a really bad person and a really bad parent?

1550
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: Like would you throw Jay Aaron from the show Morning

1551
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: Combat on here on this question at all? Would you

1552
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: consider that?

1553
01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? But like he's not the worst character, he's just

1554
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: the relevant.

1555
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's keep it going here. From Joel

1556
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: FC eighty two. Honestly can't understand BC liking Wakanda Forever.

1557
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,759
Speaker 1: It's awful. Thor Love and Thunder was twenty times better?

1558
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: What movie have you guys? Hated that everyone loved, and

1559
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: vice versa. What have you loved that everyone hated? That's

1560
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 1: a cool question. I like that. Let's see here, Luke,

1561
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: is there a great movie that's like revered? I mean

1562
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 1: dirty dancing, durty dancing sucks man. Women think that's the

1563
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: best thing that ever happened.

1564
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, dirty.

1565
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 1: I think it's like a prequel to Pretty Woman or something. No, okay, okay, So.

1566
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 2: My senior year in high school and I had like

1567
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 2: my first like real serious school. I had girlfriends before,

1568
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 2: but like it was my first, like long term one.

1569
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 2: She made me go to, Like when they re released

1570
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 2: it in theaters in nineteen ninety eight, I had to

1571
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 2: go watch that fucking shit in the theaters. Oh my god,

1572
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 2: what a nightmare that was.

1573
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Schindler's List wasn't pleasant.

1574
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 2: Okay, wasn't designed to be a romance.

1575
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

1576
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 2: I mean it is unpleasant in a certain way. Yeah. Uh,

1577
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: you know what answer would be, is.

1578
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: Your baby's the real answer here? Also, I told you

1579
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: that I walked out or I stopped watching Natural Born

1580
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: Killers was a little too much.

1581
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 2: Oh, natural Born Killers is great.

1582
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I took it too seriously at that age,

1583
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 1: you know.

1584
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's an art movie, right, and we

1585
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:21,919
Speaker 2: gotta take it for the satire.

1586
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: I get it, it's a satire.

1587
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 2: It was just it's not satire so much as it's

1588
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 2: commentary in a certain way, bizarre commentary, right, you know what.

1589
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 2: I'll be honest. I did not love this movie, but

1590
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 2: I liked it. I definitely liked it, and no one

1591
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 2: else did. Which was the last Jedi so episode? What

1592
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 2: is that? Six of the middle one of the new three? Eight? Eight?

1593
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 2: What am I saying? Six? Yeah? What the fuck am

1594
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 2: I talking about? Six was Return of the Jedi.

1595
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: So nine Blue nine sucked?

1596
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 2: That's nine. Well, the Rise of Skywalker is utterly unwatchable.

1597
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: Seven. Seven doesn't hold up as as well as it

1598
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: did the night it came out in the theater, but

1599
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 1: that theater experience for seven.

1600
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 2: Every time people make this mistake. They made it recently

1601
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 2: with this new movie Barbarian that I saw what They're like, Oh,

1602
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 2: the movie has plot holes, and it's like, yes, of

1603
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 2: course it does. It has plot holes, but you forgive

1604
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 2: plot holes if the director and then the writers are

1605
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 2: trying to actually have some intelligent commentary beyond the scope.

1606
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 2: But what the plot can naturally deliver to you. You have

1607
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 2: to make that concession a little bit, and they did

1608
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: in the Last Jedi. The thing that I really loved

1609
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: about it, that I really enjoyed about it was that

1610
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 2: finally someone was like, dude, all this Jedi shit, just

1611
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 2: fucking bury it. It's the past, be done with it

1612
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 2: through through Kylo Ren. That's when Kylo Ren, Because Kylo

1613
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 2: Wren sucked in episode seven A New Hope.

1614
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: He was.

1615
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 2: He was an emo piece of shit, crying loser who

1616
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: just off his dad, and.

1617
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: He couldn't be Ray. And that sword battle at.

1618
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 2: The A Yeah, and he couldn't be fucking Ray who

1619
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: had like five minutes of Jedi training in.

1620
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: Finn with no Jedi, no mita Chlorians was kind of dude.

1621
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 2: Dark Fader would have ripped that guy into two pieces, like.

1622
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: With his mom. With this long did Dark Debate retain

1623
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: a schlong or do you think that he lost that

1624
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:06,839
Speaker 1: in the transaction?

1625
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 2: They probably gave him like a robotic fucking nine inch

1626
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 2: er just out there hammering you know what I mean. Uh,

1627
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 2: But here's the point I want to make, dude. The

1628
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 2: Jedi ship is so tired, it is so old, it

1629
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 2: is so over. No, dude, you can't keep recycling these

1630
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 2: same stories over and over and over again. And someone

1631
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: was finally willing to say, be done with it, burn it,

1632
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 2: get get rid of the past. That was one thing

1633
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 2: I liked about the Other one, which I thought was

1634
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 2: actually a very salient point, was when like when he

1635
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 2: burned the Jedi Temple, which, like, dude, and in uncertain times,

1636
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 2: institutions won't save you. They will fail around you too.

1637
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 2: There is no certainty, there is no security. None of

1638
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 2: those things are there's just figments of your imagination, imagination.

1639
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 2: They don't really exist. And they and they went with that,

1640
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 2: and that's uncomfortable and that's not fun and it's hard

1641
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 2: to watch. So like the part about you know, Princess

1642
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 2: or I should say, Queen lay or whatever, emperor a

1643
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 2: whatever she was, you know in space getting herself back

1644
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 2: on the sucked. That was fucking stupid. That part is stupid.

1645
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 2: I can't defend that. I won't defend that. But the

1646
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 2: parts about getting rid of the jedis moving from it

1647
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 2: and institutions failing around you. I fucking love that someone

1648
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 2: finally took a risk with Star Wars, and a big

1649
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 2: one and it didn't pay off, but I thought it

1650
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 2: was great.

1651
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: I do say I still like seven and eight. I

1652
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: think that I over value them when they first came out.

1653
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: Then I watched them enough to see the holes in them,

1654
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,480
Speaker 1: and they're not perfect, but they're okay.

1655
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: Seven is basically fine. I don't have a problem with it. Yeah,

1656
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 2: four all over again.

1657
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: Seven is the most nostalgic one on purpose. I get it.

1658
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: It's basically like redoing episode four, you know, advancing it

1659
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: in a Cobra Kai type boy, just redoing the same themes.

1660
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, nine sucks, man, and one two sucks too.

1661
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, nine sucked so bad. I actually

1662
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 2: saw it with my in laws and we walked out

1663
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 2: of the theater and I was like, dude, what did

1664
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: you think about that? And they were like, oh, we

1665
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 2: loved it. And I was like, I wanted to get

1666
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 2: a divorce from my wife just to just to stick

1667
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 2: it to them for that opinion. So it was like, well,

1668
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 2: fuck you guys. No, no, no. From from Columbia, like they

1669
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 2: were here and they're wonderful people. I'm obviously joking, but

1670
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: like I was, I was like, are you are you

1671
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 2: doing a bit here? Like you can't possibly think that

1672
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 2: that was good. They just wanted to see, you know,

1673
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 2: Chewbacca and lasers and shit.

1674
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: You know, look, I got a soccer one for you

1675
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 1: since it's World Cup time all right, and MESSI just

1676
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: lost two to one to the Saudi Arabians.

1677
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 2: I saw that. I was like, what the fuck?

1678
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: This from Lee Carrick fourteen? What would be your dream

1679
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: non combat sports sporting final to intend? Including tournaments, teams

1680
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: and venue. For example, ac Milan versus inter Milan in

1681
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 1: the Champions League final at the San Siro San Zero.

1682
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 2: It wouldn't happen because well it could happen, but there's

1683
01:15:54,640 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 2: nothing on the horizon about it. I would love, love, love, love, love, love,

1684
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: love love love to go see Real Madrid play a

1685
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 2: Champions League final in their home stadium, which is you know,

1686
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 2: very not really possible, but in the burnabyu is what

1687
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 2: it's called. I would love to fucking go to something

1688
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 2: like that. But I will tell you BC. He asked

1689
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,719
Speaker 2: non combat sports related, there is one itch inside combat

1690
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 2: sports that I have not scratched that I really want

1691
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 2: to go. I want to go to what Marow calls

1692
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 2: the punch bowl. What's it called? Now? The home depot

1693
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 2: whatever the name.

1694
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: Of Dignity Health Sports.

1695
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 2: Dignity Health Sports. They've changed the name a million times.

1696
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 2: In Carson City, California, Man, I gotta tell you that

1697
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 2: is on my bucket list.

1698
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, it's Carson, California.

1699
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 2: Did I say Carson City. I don't know why I'm off.

1700
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 2: I'm off my rocker today, but that I want to

1701
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 2: go to that one. I really like, that's a bucket

1702
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 2: list thing for me.

1703
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,520
Speaker 1: You have to do that. It was like my pilgrimage

1704
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 1: to Wrigley Field the two thousand and one in for

1705
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: a day game. Sure it off. You have to do

1706
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,879
Speaker 1: it combat sports related. You know, I gotta be Wembley

1707
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 1: Stadium int for a major boxing match. You know that'd

1708
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: be yeah. I mean ninety people there, you know, just yeah,

1709
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: that'd be incredible. I don't know if I have what

1710
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: do I have a non combat sports dream? I mean, dude,

1711
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna turn down like the World Cup or any

1712
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: of these you know, super soccer tournaments that you love.

1713
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: I mean, the atmosphere probably is the most intoxicating thing ever.

1714
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, when I saw it when I went

1715
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: to some really big Penn State games in the late

1716
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: nineties early two thousands when they were ranked. That was

1717
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: some of the most intoxicating shit ever. Luke.

1718
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, but like I'm not dying to go.

1719
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 2: I mean, I like tennis, but I'm not dying to go.

1720
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 2: I like baseball, I'm not dying to go. Even the

1721
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 2: super Bowl it's too you know. I guess if the

1722
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 2: Commanders were in it or something, i'd feel different or whatever.

1723
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 2: But in general, like that's.

1724
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: What about like Olympics one hundred meter dash final or

1725
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: something like that.

1726
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 2: Oh oh my god. I told my wife about this.

1727
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 2: I told my wife about this. There's no way to

1728
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 2: make it work because I can't make it. Dude. The

1729
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 2: and you're gonna laugh at this or you're gonna mock it.

1730
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 2: I don't care. This wouldn't be like bucket list. But

1731
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 2: I really want to go the World Championships this year.

1732
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,799
Speaker 2: Fact in a couple of weeks are actually in Bogota,

1733
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 2: Colombia for the Olympic Weightlifting World Championships, and all of

1734
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 2: the major lifters are going, including my favorite lifter currently

1735
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: Laschitealahdzie from Georgia. He is going to be going over

1736
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 2: to Bogata to compete and I told my wife, I like,

1737
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 2: I really wanted to go, but we just couldn't make

1738
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 2: it work. Yeah, I would love to go to something

1739
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 2: like that.

1740
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Mikey's shouting out that SEC football just insanity. I

1741
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: would agree. I think if any of us who haven't

1742
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: went to an SEC game, we probably you know, so I've.

1743
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 2: Seen I've been to. Now this is acc or maybe

1744
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 2: they've moved. I can't even tell anymore because all the

1745
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 2: conference shifting. But when I was a kid, I saw

1746
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: I saw FSU in tallahassee play who do they play?

1747
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: Damn, that's gotta be fun.

1748
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: I can't remember, but it was a completely sold out

1749
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 2: thing and it was crazy as shit, and that was

1750
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 2: pretty cool.

1751
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean when you do big, big time college football,

1752
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: like when I saw one hundred nine thousand people on

1753
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 1: homecoming when Penn State was ranked number two and undefeated, like,

1754
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: that's just a different level. I mean I've done. I've

1755
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: done good seats at Knicks playoff games, like in the

1756
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 1: what's two thousand season that you know, when they came

1757
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 1: back from eighteen down in Game six against the Heat

1758
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: that was something even tho I'm not Knicks fan, that

1759
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: was something like You'll never forget what that felt like.

1760
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: I would already bet anything soccer related probably takes that

1761
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: to another level because it's life or death for most countries.

1762
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'd love to attend all that and feel that. Also,

1763
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, I never got to see like Duke unc

1764
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: at Duke. You know that that could be something that I.

1765
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 2: Which even now doesn't mean the same thing, but we

1766
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 2: were when I was. So I was a senior in

1767
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 2: college in two thousand and two, and I've talked about

1768
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 2: before Batti a boozer, Don Levy, that whole crew man. Yeah,

1769
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 2: Jay went to go and watch them down in North

1770
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 2: Carolina play their they're essentially cross state rivals. Fuck, that

1771
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 2: would have been great.

1772
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I feel I feel I pretty much feel

1773
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: like every answer is either college football or soccer, though

1774
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: those those seem to be the two. Like need to

1775
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 1: need to inject this in my veins for non non

1776
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: combat Yeah indeed, right there, All right, let's wrap this

1777
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: up here, Luke. Let me see if there's anything else

1778
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 1: doing good here from five dollars foot long, well BC,

1779
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: what is an artist or album you really enjoy but

1780
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: yet know and think Luke hates?

1781
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 2: What are the.

1782
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: Look do you want to lead off with Jan six?

1783
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 1: What are you planning for the is that the two

1784
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: year Jan six or one?

1785
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't even know anymore. I can't, dude, I

1786
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: can't keep track of anything in my life.

1787
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: The last dude, since we started MK it's one long year,

1788
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: right because it was mid COVID, which was weird enough.

1789
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: It's just been one year.

1790
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 2: So glad you said that. I feel exactly the same.

1791
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 2: I feel exactly the same way. It's just one day

1792
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 2: bleeds into the next. Man, they really do. So what's

1793
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 2: an artist or album I enjoy that? You know? Or

1794
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 2: think Luke's going? Well, that's up to you.

1795
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 1: I know, I'm trying to think of that. I mean

1796
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of what I.

1797
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,839
Speaker 2: Love, most of BC's record collection. I would burn.

1798
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: Like Luke. I just I just picked this up for

1799
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: two dollars. So Van Morrison did a live album right

1800
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: at the peak of his powers in seventy four. It's

1801
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 1: called what is It? It's too late to Stop now?

1802
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 2: Didn't he didn't Van Morrison get in trouble once because

1803
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 2: he like did an entire show with his back turn

1804
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 2: to the audience.

1805
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's he's a long time cantankerous dick. That's

1806
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 1: why people hail this concert so much as one as

1807
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: arguably the greatest live album in rock history that I

1808
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: didn't even know about, because this was like the most

1809
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: amiable he ever was, and he was willing to be

1810
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: a showman. Dude. This double record in the last two

1811
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: days has just blown and I'm already a Van fan.

1812
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 1: I've got all the great ones right on vinyl already. Dude.

1813
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: This is so damn great because he mixes all the

1814
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: genres together, does each song differently than the album at

1815
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 1: a different pace and timing, but yet just performs the

1816
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: shit out of it in terms of improvisation. I bet

1817
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: you would appreciate that, Like.

1818
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 2: There is something you misunderstand me a little bit, Like

1819
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 2: a good musician is a good musician, Like he's a

1820
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 2: very good one. Like I'd be okay with that, dude.

1821
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 2: One of my favorite records, This Is True, was when

1822
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 2: I've listened to it, like you know, on numerous times

1823
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 2: over the year. Stevie Rayvaugh performing at Carnegie Hall. Oh yeah, dude,

1824
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta get the fuck out of here

1825
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,759
Speaker 2: with that. That's that's just a genius at work.

1826
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean there's a show I used to have the DVD.

1827
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: It's Stevie Rayvaughon Live at the Elmo Cambo, which I

1828
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 1: think is in Elmo Combo. I think it's in Toronto.

1829
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: It's a club. He just does a live performance, like

1830
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: right at the peak of his powers in like eighty three. Basically, dude,

1831
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: there are moments that you're like, there, like, am I

1832
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 1: higher than I think I am? That there's an eight,

1833
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: Like he's a He's there's an A. It's like the

1834
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: end of Total Recall when the guy brings out his

1835
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 1: lizard arm. I mean, there's things he does on that

1836
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: that are just just you know, they're they're Hendrix like,

1837
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 1: and that's like saying they're they're uh, you know, they're Godlike.

1838
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this name a concert you just

1839
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 2: walked out of. You were like, fuck this.

1840
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 1: But this is the funniest and saddest story ever. Okay,

1841
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 1: So my buddy went to Manhattan College in the Bronx,

1842
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: and I used to go there every weekend.

1843
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 2: Right, I was always there, Like how Manhattan College is

1844
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 2: in the Bronx.

1845
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, in Riverdale. Shout out to ED for that,

1846
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: and I did.

1847
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 2: I dated a girl in Riverdale.

1848
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: Oh wow, did you smash?

1849
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 2: I didn't. Yeah, we did it for a while. I

1850
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 2: mean it was a romantic thing.

1851
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: And by the so this is like fall, this is

1852
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: probably like ninety eight, and we're there for like whatever

1853
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: basketball opening night. What do you call that thing?

1854
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 2: Remember that?

1855
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: What's that night called? Like it's like Halloween night when

1856
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 1: college basketball midnight madness?

1857
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1858
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to Midnight Madness at Manhattan College. Right,

1859
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: Who cares? I got so. I had a jersey T

1860
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: shirt made with my name back on the back of it.

1861
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: I got so drunk I was out there in the

1862
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 1: layup line with the guy. I mean it was it

1863
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 1: was out of control. Look, okay. That night, as we're

1864
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 1: on our way to the bars, they're like, yo, see

1865
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 1: and see music factories performing tonight. I'm like, are you

1866
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,440
Speaker 1: kidding me? They're like, yeah, they're over there at the auditorium,

1867
01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: but like, no one's going to it. And this is

1868
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 1: ninety eight. DNC Music Factory had their two big hits

1869
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: and what like ninety one ninety two, Right, it's not

1870
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: that far removed. I'm like, dude, we have a chance

1871
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: to see C and C Music Factory right now. They're like, yeah,

1872
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 1: free tickets. It's free, you want to go, Luke. I

1873
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: approached a imagine an elementary school gym. You know how

1874
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: small that is with a stage on the end of it.

1875
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: Do you need all small? That is right, it's like

1876
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:25,679
Speaker 1: real small. I approached what was the equivalent to that

1877
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: herd sweat baby with the music that control met the

1878
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: rhythm move you, and I'm like, yeah, dude, walked in.

1879
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: There's no fans there. There's three kids standing against the

1880
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: back wall, laughing and kind of pointing at the stage.

1881
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 1: There's one person standing in front of the stage who

1882
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: was security, and it's CNC Music Factory. Shout out, what's

1883
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 1: a guy's named Freedom Williams just going ham Luke performing

1884
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: like there was nobody there because there wasn't, or performing

1885
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 1: like he's at Madison's Square Garden, dripping sweat, just going

1886
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: after it. And I walked in and just was and

1887
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: I was so excited to be there to see them,

1888
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: and was overcome with the sadness of that moment, like

1889
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like the only people that were there

1890
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 1: were like obviously heckling, like can you believe this shit?

1891
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 1: And then we just laughed at them and turned around

1892
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 1: and walked away. And while I don't feel as bad

1893
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: as I do for the yuming and Jervis Patterson reveals

1894
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 1: of when I was an absolute shit face head, you know,

1895
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, I walked out, Luke. It was the saddest

1896
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen. That's like five years removed from

1897
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: their absolute, world renowned peak and they were playing to

1898
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 1: nobody at Manhattan College in the Bronx.

1899
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 2: Thank you. So I got two concerts that I've left.

1900
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 2: One I really regret. One was just the best decision ever.

1901
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 2: So one I regret was I want to go see

1902
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 2: Army of the Pharaohs. If you don't know who that is,

1903
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:50,799
Speaker 2: it's a like a supergroup of all the underground rappers

1904
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 2: that I tend to like. So it's you know, Esoteric

1905
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 2: and Apathy and Vinnie Paz and Self Titled and blah

1906
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,719
Speaker 2: blah blah. But they were the headlining act. So Dude

1907
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 2: opened at seven, concerts started at eight. It was at

1908
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 2: the nine to thirty Club in DC. Okay, So I

1909
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 2: was on U Street getting beers with a friend of mine.

1910
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. We roll in at eight, and you know,

1911
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 2: we're like, ah, we're a bit early, you know, let's

1912
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 2: just wait and we'll come back. And soa blah blah

1913
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: blah blah. We got drunk, and then we went there

1914
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 2: at eleven, okay, three hours fucking later, and they still

1915
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 2: were not playing yet. There was like multiple acts that

1916
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: were still yet to go on the fucking bill, including

1917
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 2: like a guy didn't even like named mister Lyff. I

1918
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck is going on? Waited thirty minutes.

1919
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 2: Then another group that came out that's part of the

1920
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 2: AOTP but separate, called Outer Space, and then they started

1921
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: their set and I'm like, no, fuck this, this is ridiculous.

1922
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 2: I'm not waiting three and a half four hours for

1923
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: this band fucking come when did think we're gonna go home?

1924
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 2: So I just left. But then I tried to see

1925
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 2: them multiple times since then, and all of those concerts

1926
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 2: got canceled, So I really regret it. The one I

1927
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 2: don't regret was when I went to a place called

1928
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 2: used to be called the Nissan Pavilion and now it's

1929
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 2: called Jiffy Lou Live. It's out in Britain, Virginia, and

1930
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 2: every time the band goes there, it's always like we're

1931
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 2: going to Washington, DC. Bitch, it's two hours from the

1932
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 2: city in the middle of nowhere. So when you leave, dude,

1933
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 2: you're gonna wait another hour or two. Just getting out

1934
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 2: of there, we go to see My wife like, begnicks,

1935
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 2: you really want to see Motley Crue. I was like,

1936
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 2: all right, we'll fucking go see Motley Crue. First of all,

1937
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that I didn't get Lyce is

1938
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 2: just incredible. Number one, I mean the people there just

1939
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 2: I mean the dregs of society. Let's just be quite

1940
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 2: honest about that. And then, uh, dude, the sound. Now,

1941
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 2: my wife says she has seen the band a number

1942
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 2: of times, and she's she even agreed with me, the

1943
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 2: sound was horrific. We don't know if it was just

1944
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 2: their equipment or what the cause was, because we've been

1945
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 2: to that venue several times before and it never had

1946
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 2: an issue. They were so fucking bad. The sound was

1947
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 2: so terrible. And then it started to rain, and I

1948
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 2: looked at my wife. She's like, we've been here, They've

1949
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 2: been playing for thirty minutes. I'm like, we are wasting

1950
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 2: our fucking time. And so we finally left. Turns out

1951
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 2: that the rain picked up way worse after we left,

1952
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,759
Speaker 2: and there was flooding in the parking lot and cars

1953
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 2: had to get towed out of there the next day

1954
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,640
Speaker 2: so the shit could drain out and they could go

1955
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: get them. One of the best calls I've ever made

1956
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,520
Speaker 2: in my life, Bang Bang.

1957
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas waits for no man, Luke. Final question you

1958
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 1: know this one's from a Twitter user CJ Hilson. Why

1959
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: is Luke so damn salty all the time? Who hurt you?

1960
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 2: Man?

1961
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 1: How much time do we have for this? Luke?

1962
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 2: I'll just say this, man, I don't know why it's

1963
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 2: this way, and I don't necessarily prefer it to be

1964
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 2: this way. I don't necessarily think the way I do

1965
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 2: it is better or the way in which I see

1966
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 2: life is better. However, I mean, a fish can't cry

1967
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:52,480
Speaker 2: about its gills, you know, That's how it breathes, you know. Yeah,

1968
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 2: things that normally interest the average person I've always found

1969
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 2: stupid and boring. And I will say something else about

1970
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 2: this too. People in this day and age, you hear

1971
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 2: a lot about like we want someone to be real,

1972
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 2: be real. Get the fuck out of my face with

1973
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 2: that shit. If there is anything I have learned, it's

1974
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 2: that people love fraud. People love fiction and not like fiction,

1975
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 2: is in like designated fiction, as in fiction that masquerades

1976
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 2: as fact. People love being lied to. They love all

1977
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 2: of this shit. And if you think that's not true,

1978
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 2: then ask yourself why there's so much of it in

1979
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 2: the world. It's because people love it. They respond to it,

1980
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 2: they eat it. Not just fake news, but like old

1981
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 2: sayings that make no sense or inherited customs you're just

1982
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 2: supposed to keep, you know, using or whatever. All of

1983
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 2: these things have never made sense to me at all,

1984
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 2: and the reasons why we do them have never made

1985
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 2: sense to me at all. And this is very true

1986
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 2: in the fight game, where it's always smoking mirrors and

1987
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: people are exaggerating and lying. People love lies, they love

1988
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 2: they love bullshit, and I've just never been that guy. Man,

1989
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 2: I just can't go along with it. I can't unsee it,

1990
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 2: and so it puts me on the outside looking in

1991
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 2: all the time.

1992
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 1: Man, Okay, so you're you're it's not that you're hurt?

1993
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 1: Well is it maybe that you're always hurt? Right? Because

1994
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 1: you are who you are, You know your own truth

1995
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 1: and anything else you know can s a.

1996
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,600
Speaker 2: D can ask the biggest of these You know what

1997
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1998
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 1: Oh, who were talking about shack?

1999
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 2: What do we doing? You mean the Prince of Persia

2000
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:29,719
Speaker 2: from Canada.

2001
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not that shack. Wow that we after around

2002
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 1: and did ninety minutes for the people. That's not bad.

2003
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 2: It's what we do overtime always.

2004
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 1: Ot corey ot Anderson. Thank you, folks for your questions,

2005
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to our reveals about how shitty we

2006
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: used to be before we evolved as human beings.

2007
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've definitely been terrible.

2008
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we all have. It's it's just, you know,

2009
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:55,600
Speaker 1: it's it's just what it is right there. But uh,

2010
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say here, Luke, what

2011
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: else do you want me to say?

2012
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 2: Thank you to everyone who watched don't drink and drive

2013
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 2: this Thanksgiving weekend. Please don't do that. Yeah, be responsible,

2014
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 2: Get an uber, get a taxi, whatever you got to do.

2015
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 1: You have more options now to not drink and drive

2016
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: than ever before.

2017
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 2: Right right before you kind of had to wing it,

2018
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 2: you know a little bit. Now you don't, So don't

2019
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:18,600
Speaker 2: do that shit, And thank you for watching. And we

2020
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 2: should also know obviously we still have the month of

2021
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 2: December left, which would be a good month for us,

2022
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 2: but on top of that, dude, twenty twenty three looks

2023
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 2: to be a strong ear. So let's let's let's keep

2024
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 2: it in high gear.

2025
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's keep banging. Let's keep bringing it, and you

2026
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 1: guys keep supporting us downloading our content as Luke vapes.

2027
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 1: Thank you to Mikey morml our producer who could also

2028
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 1: be vaping. It's possible. I mean it's not just not

2029
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,679
Speaker 1: outside of the realm possibility that right now are.

2030
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 2: Long hits vaping because it definitely does.

2031
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: Thank you, dear listener. I hope you enjoyed some family

2032
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 1: time this weekend and just you know, focus on what

2033
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 1: really matters. Okay, morning combat obviously like and subscribe. There

2034
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 1: you go, No, your health, your mental health, your family.

2035
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 1: You can get out of this ditch you're in because

2036
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 1: we've all been there. There's probably a few more ditches

2037
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 1: left for me before the final one where I don't

2038
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 1: come out of. But you can come back from this. Okay,

2039
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 1: Spring follows winter inevitably. Believe that that's some truth right there.

2040
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: For Luke Thomas. My name is Brian Campbell. Thanksgiving is

2041
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 1: the best holiday. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope

2042
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 1: you didn't hurt anybody during Black Friday, but thank you

2043
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: for watching. Two more words, we out