Speaker 1: Kabbooms.
Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants
Speaker 2: of the old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He
Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the
Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: The clearing House of Hot takes break free for something special.
Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now.
Speaker 1: In the air everywhere.
Speaker 3: Back at it on another edition of The Fifth Hour
Speaker 3: with Ben Mahler and Danny g Radio. It is a Friday,
Speaker 3: but a day that is unlike any other. As we
Speaker 3: do this radio show five nights a week and on
Speaker 3: the weekends we have some fun with the podcast. But
Speaker 3: if you were not listening earlier this week, if you
Speaker 3: missed the big announcement after months of speculation by people
Speaker 3: like Alf the Alien, Opiner and others who have sent
Speaker 3: emails very concerned that I was leaving Fox Sports Radio
Speaker 3: to get a job somewhere else, many convinced that I
Speaker 3: was taking a radio gig in Boston when I went
Speaker 3: back to Boston, if you missed the announcement, I was
Speaker 3: in Boston for work, but I am very excited to
Speaker 3: announce if you've not heard yet, that after many years
Speaker 3: of doing Benny Versus the Penny on radio on this podcast,
Speaker 3: we did one season on YouTube that we're now heading
Speaker 3: up to the big leagues. If you will as Benny
Speaker 3: Versus the Penny picked up by NBC and you'll be
Speaker 3: able to watch it on a bunch of regional cable channels.
Speaker 3: The hub will be in Boston on NBC Sports Boston.
Speaker 3: I went back to Boston a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 3: met with all the executives at NBC. Had a great
Speaker 3: time there and a very nice new experience, something that I'm.
Speaker 1: Not comfortable with normally.
Speaker 3: I don't normally do that kind of stuff being on
Speaker 3: late at night, I don't normally have to deal with
Speaker 3: executives and things along those lines.
Speaker 1: But everything's been great.
Speaker 3: Everything's been wonderful, and it will be on NBC Sports Boston,
Speaker 3: but distributed by NBC across the country and is scheduled
Speaker 3: if everything goes right here to be broadcast in New
Speaker 3: York on the SNY the home of the Mets, in
Speaker 3: LA on the Home of the Dodgers on their cable channel.
Speaker 3: Beyond all the NBC cable channels around the country and
Speaker 3: should be available on the stream as well on the Peacock,
Speaker 3: So we'll be everywhere.
Speaker 4: Will Tom Looney be on the show?
Speaker 3: Well, that's right, that's right, the voice representing the penny
Speaker 3: you talk about going out of my realm here radio
Speaker 3: and television's Tom Looney.
Speaker 1: Here's Yes.
Speaker 4: They wanted someone to challenge your comfort level, now Looney,
Speaker 4: they brought it me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna be the Vana White of the show.
Speaker 4: I will I will expose which side of the coin
Speaker 4: has been flipped.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you will be the keeper of the coin,
Speaker 3: which is a very nice job, Tom, the keeper.
Speaker 1: Of the coin. Yeah, so it is.
Speaker 4: Yes, I realized that we're doing God's work and I'm
Speaker 4: happy to be part of it.
Speaker 1: You Jesus.
Speaker 3: So we are reunited, Tom. After how many years did
Speaker 3: we do the blizz? I've known you forever.
Speaker 4: Since nineteen nights this last century.
Speaker 1: Yeah, since the nineties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were barely alive, right, There was Green Day
Speaker 3: on the radio when you live.
Speaker 4: Yes, the Green Day was on the radio and I
Speaker 4: was I was there. I used to do my homework
Speaker 4: and listen to you on the radio and send you factes.
Speaker 3: The facts of the day, the huge facts of the day.
Speaker 3: But you're gonna be with me every show. Tom will
Speaker 3: be sitting in a TV studio across the way from
Speaker 3: me there, and it will.
Speaker 4: Be very exciting. It'll be cameras and makeup or have
Speaker 4: you been canning? Yeah?
Speaker 3: As you know, I'm very self conscious, Tom, I don't
Speaker 3: look at all. That's why I've always done radio and
Speaker 3: avoided television. I am such a radio loser.
Speaker 4: I'm very excited because I love the way I look.
Speaker 4: I can't wait for people to see me. I look
Speaker 4: just like my voice.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So when we've met with the people at NBC, I
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, can I Can I wear a burka?
Speaker 1: Is that possible?
Speaker 3: My Tom's like, can I go in there and like
Speaker 3: like a tank top or whatever? And uh So we
Speaker 3: have the complete opposite approach. And this is also Tom.
Speaker 3: Now you're you've done some TV in the past. You
Speaker 3: were with the best damn.
Speaker 4: Yes, That's why at the meetings you you never talked
Speaker 4: because we TV people do all the talking.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, I just sit back.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And there are a lot of meetings, a lot of
Speaker 3: a lot of production meetings.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I've kidded around for years Tom on the radio show
Speaker 3: about production meetings, right, Yes, very hard to do on
Speaker 3: my show because a lot of the guys don't show up,
Speaker 3: sometimes till after the show starts, so it can be
Speaker 3: difficult to have a meeting off no one's.
Speaker 4: Actually there, especially such if you don't do the preparation, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it might not get done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this has kind of been you know, I've
Speaker 3: been hoping something like this would happen. I didn't say
Speaker 3: anything to anybody, though, I think you've told more people
Speaker 3: than I have time.
Speaker 4: I have, but I would tell you anytime I told anybuddy,
Speaker 4: because I gave you your word. I would just tell
Speaker 4: close relatives and a smattering of others.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I told my wife has known about this, obviously
Speaker 3: she was locked in. But other than that, I told
Speaker 3: my brothers and that's that's about it. I didn't want
Speaker 3: to jinx it because you've known me a long time.
Speaker 3: Tom and I have been close to some very exciting jobs. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: I have been a finalist for big time media jobs
Speaker 3: and every single times up until this point. Not that
Speaker 3: I don't have a great job doing the radio show,
Speaker 3: but every time I've had something else.
Speaker 1: That's like major like career.
Speaker 4: Change, right they went with the skinny girl.
Speaker 1: Yes, sometimes it was always at the last minute. Like
Speaker 1: I had.
Speaker 3: I had a job at TMZ lined up years ago,
Speaker 3: and I told people because they called me said they
Speaker 3: were going to hire me, uh like the next the
Speaker 3: next day, and I'm still waiting.
Speaker 1: It's been there.
Speaker 3: I'm still waiting for that return folk call from the
Speaker 3: people at TMC.
Speaker 4: So that's strange.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Right after they canceled the show with j T and May,
Speaker 4: I went, I got a call from them right away,
Speaker 4: went straight down there to the Pla del Rey and
Speaker 4: uh so they took me, took me around, was really
Speaker 4: uh you know, asked me what I wanted to do.
Speaker 4: Did I want to develop shows? I came up with
Speaker 4: an idea like ten different shows and put a lot
Speaker 4: of hard work into it. And then crickets just like
Speaker 4: what happened to you.
Speaker 1: Just yes, no, no.
Speaker 3: So I mean this was years ago when the Tiger
Speaker 3: Woods story, the scandal broke about Tiger Woods, and they
Speaker 3: were they were going to really put some money into
Speaker 3: TMC Sports and all that and try.
Speaker 1: To get that going. So met they were very nice people.
Speaker 1: They were great, Yes, they are.
Speaker 4: I do have to say that. And you know, earlier
Speaker 4: before you pushed record, we were talking about Andy Warhol
Speaker 4: first time for my first interview over there. I went
Speaker 4: and down and there was on that sunset first time
Speaker 4: I interviewed with them. And I'm sitting in in uh
Speaker 4: in the office of the big head hot show there.
Speaker 4: What's his name, Harvey Levin I believe would be the
Speaker 4: Harvey's office. Yes, and so if I knew, I didn't
Speaker 4: watch it on television very much, and so Harvey was
Speaker 4: often in the people's court. So I was interviewed by
Speaker 4: two other people, the black guy with the dreads you
Speaker 4: don't watch it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I remember.
Speaker 4: We're painting. Yeah, it's it's a podcast. We're painting pictures,
Speaker 4: and somebody else. And so they came. I sat down,
Speaker 4: they sat down, and I looked up and I said
Speaker 4: to them, is that an original Warhol? Because Harvey's got
Speaker 4: money apparently, because there's an original Warhol on the wall.
Speaker 4: And Charles said, I was going to ask you some
Speaker 4: of your other interests, but now I know, yeah, because
Speaker 4: it could be a serio graph. A seria graph would
Speaker 4: still be worth ten thousand dollars. But if it's you know,
Speaker 4: I'm started going over what it's worth, very excited about
Speaker 4: the Warhol on the wall. And then after that second
Speaker 4: interview down in Plia Delray, beautiful Plian del Ray. Yeah,
Speaker 4: nothing happened after that. So they are wonderful, but sometimes
Speaker 4: they they're very California and flaking.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I've had some other things that we don't need
Speaker 3: to get into here, but this nbfing NBC thing is great.
Speaker 4: I yeah, we were worried, and I was I was more.
Speaker 4: Optimism is my oxygen. That can't just that does not
Speaker 4: describe you.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I am a pessimist. I think we're
Speaker 3: going to die one hundred times over and over again
Speaker 3: and right to Dante's Inferno. So this has been an
Speaker 3: ongoing process just to kind of get people into the loop.
Speaker 3: It's not, uh, it's not something that happens overnight where
Speaker 3: you get a television show.
Speaker 4: You're all right, you're right, yeah, yeah, there's a lot,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of pilot, the other pilot.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: So but the entire time we were doing a pilot
Speaker 4: and then a second pilot, et cetera. You know, they
Speaker 4: all they had all these ideas and they put in
Speaker 4: all this production, all this time, and they even you know,
Speaker 4: we got a word at one point that it was
Speaker 4: more likely than not, but they wouldn't give us Vegas odds.
Speaker 4: And so it was all these vagaries that were always
Speaker 4: on the side of that it was going to happen.
Speaker 4: But we were always too we didn't want to jinx anything.
Speaker 4: We were always way too worried to say anything which
Speaker 4: is which is fair.
Speaker 3: And then we also had we were given a date
Speaker 3: back in July that because you know, do a TV
Speaker 3: show or radio show, you have to have the most important.
Speaker 4: We were given a date in the spring of July
Speaker 4: first as a deadline for a yes or a no.
Speaker 4: In July first came and went yeah.
Speaker 3: So as John Sterling, the voice of the Yankees, I'll
Speaker 3: drop a name here. He was on this podcast and
Speaker 3: John Sterling reminded me that the most important part of
Speaker 3: all these jobs is you've got to sell the soap.
Speaker 1: You have to sell the soap.
Speaker 4: Right, yes, h Larry King used to always say, and
Speaker 4: Tom likes as well, you're in the advertising business, yeah,
Speaker 4: one hundred percent. You're selling at you know, you're the
Speaker 4: you're the filler between the soap. Commercials.
Speaker 1: You're the liaison is the product.
Speaker 4: You're the filler between five Hour Energy and body Shape.
Speaker 1: Oh there's some great uh.
Speaker 3: So, So, as you said, there was a date that
Speaker 3: was given and we were I was even optimistic at
Speaker 3: the beginning time.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I think this is you know,
Speaker 1: gonna happen.
Speaker 3: And then the date came and went, and then the
Speaker 3: days kept adding up after that he did, and we
Speaker 3: would occasionally exchange messages like a you know, you would
Speaker 3: say have you heard anything, because I think you were
Speaker 3: planning a vacation.
Speaker 1: And I said, right, yeah, no, I've not heard anything.
Speaker 3: And then the other problem is you don't want to
Speaker 3: seem too eager or you're pestering the executives at NBC.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's yeah, that's I had a RoadMate in
Speaker 4: college that studied industrial psychology, and it's very important not
Speaker 4: to look too eager, but for them to want you
Speaker 4: and not you to look too much like you want them.
Speaker 4: Do not show up a half hour before an interview,
Speaker 4: show up on time or five minutes ahead of time,
Speaker 4: and so yeah, they're not looking too eager is very
Speaker 4: important in the world of industrial psychology.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we didn't do that, and it was actually
Speaker 3: the day that I had the Samurai sword accident, was
Speaker 3: the th that was kind of the day that this
Speaker 3: all became somewhat official. But then I still didn't want
Speaker 3: I still even when we got the green light that
Speaker 3: it was no longer a yellow light or a red light,
Speaker 3: it was a green light. Still, tom part of me
Speaker 3: was like, well, I haven't signed the deal yet, and
Speaker 3: until I got the deal, it could fall apart.
Speaker 4: And then I got one of those emails about okay,
Speaker 4: you know, putting the contract together and it'll be an
Speaker 4: emails shortly, and then it wasn't shortly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that was a little nerve wracking too. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that so that was an interesting part.
Speaker 3: And then once once the everything was agreed upon and
Speaker 3: we we went back and forth. Uh I believe they
Speaker 3: call that haggling, Yes, a little haggling, And that went
Speaker 3: pretty well. And then I flew back to Boston to
Speaker 3: tape some promos and things for the TV show and
Speaker 3: meet with everyone back there and had a great time.
Speaker 3: Went out to a to a power power dinner, like
Speaker 3: a power dinner type thing, which was kind of cool.
Speaker 1: I met Nice at NBC.
Speaker 4: Did you did you stop fasting it to power dinner
Speaker 4: and order something good.
Speaker 3: Well I did, but I can tell the story now
Speaker 3: that I didn't tell before. So I flew back on
Speaker 3: a late Tuesday night. By the time I got to Boston,
Speaker 3: it was after midnight and we had a production shoot
Speaker 3: that was scheduled for the following afternoon, but on my
Speaker 3: body clock, it was the time I'm normally sleeping because
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, weird hours doing so. But the big
Speaker 3: problem that I had was that my bag that had
Speaker 3: my wardrobe for the TV shoot was lost by American Airlines.
Speaker 3: So so I didn't have my bag with all my
Speaker 3: clothes on it.
Speaker 1: You know, I assume they didn't want me to wear
Speaker 1: my my.
Speaker 3: T shirt and my shirt radio clothes exactly. So now,
Speaker 3: like the clock is ticking right, So I get to
Speaker 3: the hotel.
Speaker 1: Around one in the morning, and I'm like, hey, I
Speaker 1: emailed the guys.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, sorry, and American Airlines is like, well,
Speaker 3: we'll get your bag back, but we don't A we
Speaker 3: don't know where it is, and B we won't get
Speaker 3: it for about three days up to three days up
Speaker 3: to weasel terminology. So I'm freaking out. I'm like, holy crap.
Speaker 3: Uh So then so then what happened was my wife
Speaker 3: came with me on the trip. So my wife was there,
Speaker 3: and then one of the executives, Shohn in NBC, we
Speaker 3: went out shopping. As you know, Tom, I cannot just
Speaker 3: go down to the to the regular store.
Speaker 1: I'm a tall guy.
Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, you shop were Doc Rivers shops the
Speaker 4: big and tall men.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 3: In fact, I had before I turned on Doc Rivers.
Speaker 3: I famously ran into Doc Rivers at a clothing store
Speaker 3: in New York years ago.
Speaker 4: And well, the reason why I love that story is
Speaker 4: because you're in New York. He was. He the coach
Speaker 4: of the Clippers at the time.
Speaker 3: No, this was actually before he was coaching the Clippers.
Speaker 3: He had played with the Knicks, but he was a
Speaker 3: broadcaster at the time.
Speaker 4: And I knew how did he know your name that?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: I knew him when I covered him when he played
Speaker 3: at the end of his career in the NBA.
Speaker 4: Wow. So I guess because of your part of your
Speaker 4: brand as your eyes. He walked in, he said, Hi, Ben, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was really cool.
Speaker 3: I mean, and Doc, listen, I think he's a terrible
Speaker 3: coach and he'll never coach again.
Speaker 1: But he's a great guy. He's a debonair guy and
Speaker 1: all that.
Speaker 3: So I did run into him in a clothing store
Speaker 3: in Manhattan and he he remembered me. And as you know, Tom,
Speaker 3: that's the most important thing when somebody who's famous remembers
Speaker 3: you that, oh.
Speaker 4: The famous people say your name, Pat O'Brien is to
Speaker 4: name my name. I used to get so excited. I
Speaker 4: used to you know, drink beer in high school with
Speaker 4: my friends and watch sup Portland Trailblazers of the NBA Finals.
Speaker 4: Who was who did Portland playing in the NBA Finals?
Speaker 1: Was?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my god, I just remember back and then
Speaker 4: it just just you know, as a kid late night,
Speaker 4: and Padd O'Brien was probably when it was on a delay,
Speaker 4: right eleven thirty at nine, unchilled two.
Speaker 1: Oh no, my memory.
Speaker 3: And I'm not a Laker guy, but those Lakers Celtics
Speaker 3: NBA Finals, Yes.
Speaker 4: All that too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Patt O'Brien at the top of the old Boss
Speaker 3: with the progressive at the half giving like tennis scores
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 4: He just the voice of our childhood said our names.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great, And I also loved the life
Speaker 3: lessons that Pat would give out randomly, and he did
Speaker 3: not even uh they weren't even like really life lessons.
Speaker 1: He didn't know.
Speaker 3: He just was tossing out random thoughts about the business
Speaker 3: and certain things you should ask for and things like that,
Speaker 3: like little Mukets.
Speaker 4: Well, boy, could he have a chip on his shore?
Speaker 4: I remember he used to refer to me as JT's
Speaker 4: spare tire. Well the first time, even even his insults,
Speaker 4: just I just loved that he knew who I was,
Speaker 4: it would insult me. It was fucking great.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The first time I met Pat, He's still he was
Speaker 3: still drinking, he was you know, he was Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh the fun Pat, Yes, yeah, it was the party Pat. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Was it Actuity Hollywood or whatever? Show?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: So we were at Dults in Burbank. Who and I
Speaker 3: missed that place to this day. And that was my
Speaker 3: bar in my twenties, was Dults in Burbank and it's
Speaker 3: it was just wonderful, just just absolutely.
Speaker 4: Great and conveniently located across the street.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was right across from the radio station, so
Speaker 3: we would all go there before the show and after
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 4: And a great place to people watch too, because there
Speaker 4: was Kiss FM was there, and there was a soap
Speaker 4: opera that I don't know what soap. I don't remember
Speaker 4: what soap opera was taped in our building. But boy
Speaker 4: did we have a great cafeteria because they needed to
Speaker 4: keep those fancy people happy.
Speaker 1: And that was a cool building.
Speaker 3: Well, that was the building. I was in the elevator
Speaker 3: with Rodney Dangerfield then, uh oh wow. I didn't say anything,
Speaker 3: but but he was.
Speaker 1: It's hard to not. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Usually well, and I met Ricky Martin because well we
Speaker 4: used to. We used to see a lot of those
Speaker 4: A list music people because they were visiting rick D's
Speaker 4: next door.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was there. I was there Tom the night.
Speaker 1: The handsome kids were there. Wow, and there was.
Speaker 3: The building was wrapped with teenage girls that were of
Speaker 3: course back back in the day. And we also had
Speaker 3: in those you know that before the interweb and all. Yes,
Speaker 3: it was big and social media, but Warner Brothers right
Speaker 3: across the street, and we'd see the cast of Seinfeld
Speaker 3: sometimes would be in there, Drew Carey show, big shows
Speaker 3: back in the day. I mean there was there was much.
Speaker 3: Fritz Coleman would come in there sometimes from Channel four, who.
Speaker 4: By the way, who was also a This is why
Speaker 4: you don't have to have a meteorology degree. You know
Speaker 4: that's in l A. You do not need a meteorology degree.
Speaker 4: You might lately.
Speaker 1: But when we were growing up ped.
Speaker 4: You know, it was Sonny, here's your five day four cast,
Speaker 4: son son son, Son's son back to you, Paul, And
Speaker 4: so they would have stand up comedians and women with
Speaker 4: large brestuses and yeah they still have still they still
Speaker 4: Oh yes, k kel nine shallow five years. And Fritz
Speaker 4: was a stand up comedian from in the improv back
Speaker 4: in the heyday. And then his night job was weather matter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great storyteller but loved and he did that job
Speaker 3: for like thirty something years probably he was the weather
Speaker 3: guy at Channel four, so we we ran it to him.
Speaker 3: So this show, Tom, is that the Benny versus the
Speaker 3: Penny show is. It's not just like.
Speaker 1: A local show. This show is going to be on everywhere.
Speaker 1: This is what it is.
Speaker 4: Well, you just mentioned or lost in Los Angeles. That's
Speaker 4: a good start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna be on every major market.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be on in in Philadelphia as well, Tampa.
Speaker 4: I think he mentioned we don't have the list. Do
Speaker 4: you have the list in front of you.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I mean we've just picked this up through casual conversation
Speaker 4: at the meetings.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't even know where the show is gonna be on,
Speaker 3: but it's gonna be distributed in all these regional cannons
Speaker 3: and it will air.
Speaker 1: From what I was told. Maybe I'm wrong on this,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't speak of it, but it's gonna air.
Speaker 3: Friday, obviously that's the big day, and then Saturday it
Speaker 3: will air.
Speaker 4: Atilaire, right, probably he's on Friday, it's before the games start,
Speaker 4: so on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, today, Saturday and Sunday. So do we do?
Speaker 4: We know what we're gonna Are we going to cover
Speaker 4: the Thursday game on the show? I suppose this should
Speaker 4: be done at a TV meeting on the podcast, but
Speaker 4: you know what we're gonna even.
Speaker 3: Well, I will pick the Thursday game, but it will
Speaker 3: not be part of the show because the show is
Speaker 3: not gonna air till Friday, so.
Speaker 1: We will we will not have to worry about that.
Speaker 3: Okay, we pick every game, and you're the keeper of
Speaker 3: the coin. Now, will you be wearing your referee outfit
Speaker 3: tom as you have of course regularly on television. I
Speaker 3: can't go a night when I walk into the building
Speaker 3: in Sherman Oak's there to do the overnight show, and
Speaker 3: they have all these TVs on.
Speaker 4: Oh and you see my Boner pill commercial?
Speaker 1: Yes, well I don't.
Speaker 3: I see you out of the corner of my eye
Speaker 3: and then I see you walking out on the field,
Speaker 3: and yes, I see a cut to Doug Flutie and
Speaker 3: Frank Thomas. Did you even did you meet those guys
Speaker 3: or were you filming your part?
Speaker 1: Separate separate?
Speaker 4: No, I didn't get to repay, so no, I did not.
Speaker 4: We didn't film that on the same day.
Speaker 3: But it seems like you know them because on television
Speaker 3: with them, Yes, all the time.
Speaker 4: Have you seen my Johnny Rockets commercial which is put
Speaker 4: I didn't even know Johnny Rockets had commercials until I
Speaker 4: until I filmed them. No, if you haven't seen it,
Speaker 4: you can go to my Twitter page and I have
Speaker 4: it pinned.
Speaker 1: Well. I remember you did you were a TV dentist.
Speaker 1: I remember that, Yes.
Speaker 4: L I bank, Yes, yes, And I'm doing a series
Speaker 4: of commercials now for Native Wings. It used to be
Speaker 4: Hurricane Grilling Wings, which is all over the Northeast and southeast. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and so will I have a new series of those
Speaker 4: coming out. I'm just the voice of that one. I
Speaker 4: was the face of that one as a play, I
Speaker 4: was playing a sportscaster. People don't realize the depth of
Speaker 4: my talent.
Speaker 1: Well, that is difficult for you, Tom is H. And
Speaker 1: I love that you're doing your day job. You're doing news.
Speaker 3: Would you consider that the day job? And I love
Speaker 3: that you do the looney news.
Speaker 4: Yes, I am allowed to give the I have full
Speaker 4: editorial control, and I am allowed to write it and
Speaker 4: deliver it my style. In other words, I'm allowed to
Speaker 4: make it all about me, which is really I have
Speaker 4: a program director who likes what I do. Normal journalists
Speaker 4: and news people don't inject themselves into the story. I
Speaker 4: have a hard time not doing that. So either here
Speaker 4: I am with fancy writing, or here I am, you know,
Speaker 4: with the fancy drop. Hey it's loony. Oh did you
Speaker 4: hear that? Oh my god, speaking of fancy, did you
Speaker 4: hear this?
Speaker 1: Oh? You have the NBC shows.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go back and watch the the
Speaker 3: Howard Stern movie.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, private parts, b Yes, private parts. I
Speaker 4: used to listen to that. I used to listen to
Speaker 4: the station in the far off distance under my covers
Speaker 4: with the transistor radio. The late night guy was named Baby.
Speaker 4: I I am Baby six to six NUMBERBC. I thought
Speaker 4: he was great. Howard thought he was terrible. Howard would
Speaker 4: always make fun of him because Howard came in, stopped
Speaker 4: playing records, just started talking. And then I thought that
Speaker 4: was amazing. I just I just wanted to be a
Speaker 4: great disc jockey. And then I heard him and I said, wait,
Speaker 4: I just want to.
Speaker 3: Well, the stern thing is rather wild too, because he's
Speaker 3: done a one eighty like the way he started and
Speaker 3: the way he operates now. You talk about changing your personically.
Speaker 1: Yes, he has. He a lot of what he hated
Speaker 1: he's now become. It's pretty, it's.
Speaker 4: Interesting and apologized to all the people he used to
Speaker 4: make fun of. And I think because your part of
Speaker 4: being entertaining on the radio over the years, and you
Speaker 4: maintain the immature part of your personality, and so you
Speaker 4: mock things. You mock and you joke, and you mock
Speaker 4: and you mock like you're in the cafeteria in high school.
Speaker 4: And that's a lot of what sports talk has been
Speaker 4: over the years, and FM morning shows like his and
Speaker 4: then he he had he was a late bloomer. He
Speaker 4: started to mature at about sixty, went to therapy and
Speaker 4: then started calling people on the phone that he would
Speaker 4: make fun of, like Robin Williams and others and try
Speaker 4: to uh yeah.
Speaker 3: And he made his fortune though based on what he
Speaker 3: had been and now he's well.
Speaker 4: He also was always a great interviewer, and so what
Speaker 4: he really concentrates now on is interviewing and that really
Speaker 4: that that means a lot less mocking. And I just
Speaker 4: follow some of his interviews on Instagram. Uh they post
Speaker 4: him and God, he's good. I sall make that guy.
Speaker 4: I won't say what his name was, but he's a
Speaker 4: TV guy who covers the Dodgers. And then they'll the
Speaker 4: game will be over and they'll throw to him and
Speaker 4: they'll say, Dodger's a gun. And that's the kind of
Speaker 4: insight we give you here the Dodger.
Speaker 1: Now, will we be giving that kind of insight on
Speaker 1: Bennie versus the penny? Will well you.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you will break it down, shake it and
Speaker 4: bake it, sauc and toss it. Give us why the
Speaker 4: point why the point spread is what it is. You'll
Speaker 4: be giving us your pick, and then I, as Vanna White,
Speaker 4: will reveal the penny pick and then we will see
Speaker 4: how well you do with your saddleback college partial degree
Speaker 4: against an an animate object.
Speaker 1: Yes, So the great thing is it's it's a rivalry.
Speaker 1: This rivalry goes.
Speaker 3: But you think about great rivalries like Ohio State, Michigan US.
Speaker 4: I want to know about this because on your little
Speaker 4: radio show, you've had a rivalry with this penny. How
Speaker 4: many years have you won? How many years has the
Speaker 4: penny won?
Speaker 3: Well, we don't need to get into the minutia of that,
Speaker 3: but this started. This started about twenty years ago. In fact,
Speaker 3: we had Turk Stevens on Turk.
Speaker 4: Was that's how old it is?
Speaker 3: Yes, that's how old is The original coin was Turk
Speaker 3: in the early days of Fox. At some point it
Speaker 3: was originally Ben versus the coin, and then we we
Speaker 3: changed it and.
Speaker 4: So it has so it had kind of a rhyme
Speaker 4: to it.
Speaker 3: I like it, Yeah, Benny versus the penny's gotten more poetic,
Speaker 3: yesh to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But in fact, I told you one of my top
Speaker 3: five quotes before we got on here. Andy Warhol's life
Speaker 3: is a series of images that change as they repeat themselves.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean we've done Benny versus the
Speaker 3: Penny over the years, and but you know it's kind
Speaker 3: of it's the same the same. The games are different
Speaker 3: obviously every year and all that.
Speaker 4: This is a side card ques.
Speaker 1: You're a favorite quote.
Speaker 4: By the way, it to you, well, just as a
Speaker 4: quick side note to that. Online you can go to
Speaker 4: Andy Warhol's grave and it changes color every fifteen minutes
Speaker 4: because his quote was also in the future, everybody will
Speaker 4: be famous for fifteen minutes. And you hear that. It's
Speaker 4: probably the most often repeated quote of anybody ever, more
Speaker 4: than Shakespeare. You know, we requote a lot of Shakespeare
Speaker 4: stuff without knowing it, and we also requote a lot
Speaker 4: of Warholing and stuff without knowing it, including everyone will
Speaker 4: be paid because you hear that as a shot, he
Speaker 4: got us fifteen minutes of fame. Let's get rid of him.
Speaker 1: You you hear that a lot.
Speaker 3: Now you've got to update the reference, right because now
Speaker 3: it's like, how long is the social media life span?
Speaker 1: Yeah, fifteen misuses less than that, maybe it's more than that.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's like you, it just depends
Speaker 4: on which person it is. Remember that got the homeless
Speaker 4: guy who who did voiceovers for a while for the
Speaker 4: Today Show that would come to Ohio. Yes, and then
Speaker 4: there was another one, how'd your kids? How'd your wife?
Speaker 4: And how'd your husband too? They're ripping everybody around here.
Speaker 4: Remember that guy, I don't, I don't, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: If I send it to you, you probably will, Oh
Speaker 4: my god. He was legendary for fifteen minutes now here.
Speaker 3: My favorite quote of all time, Tom, and I've given
Speaker 3: you this over the year. My favorite quote of all
Speaker 3: time is a quote of a guy who's street.
Speaker 1: I think we're going to drive down to go to
Speaker 1: work now to do.
Speaker 3: The TV show w Fields okay, And his quote was
Speaker 3: he's an early Hollywood he's a comedian and actor and
Speaker 3: an alcoholic and you know old Hollywood guy. He said,
Speaker 3: if you can't dazzle them with brilliant, it's baffle them
Speaker 3: with bullshit. That was I think that's one of the
Speaker 3: great quotes of all your career in Mike, there no brilliance,
Speaker 3: just bullshit. And but it works either way. You can
Speaker 3: either you dazzle them or you baffle them.
Speaker 4: And we've got pretty good at disguising the bullshit as
Speaker 4: brilliance at times because we've stolen the brilliance from others
Speaker 4: like w C and Dusty Baker's inside.
Speaker 3: Well, of course, and that's as we are reunited, Tom.
Speaker 3: For all those years we did the Blitz and all
Speaker 3: these the wild interviews, the great lines, your famous four
Speaker 3: run home run when I.
Speaker 4: Was before goad Slam.
Speaker 1: Nobody else, nobody has else had that content.
Speaker 4: By the way, I think it was Mookie that hit
Speaker 4: that back in the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 3: I think I think it was I want to say
Speaker 3: it was Jared Salta Lamachia. No, really, it was Jared
Speaker 3: Salta Lamachia.
Speaker 1: But who knows. It doesn't really matter who hit it.
Speaker 3: Remember that and all the Fox people. We had to interview,
Speaker 3: all the NFL people, Joe Buck, Aikman, Aaron Andrews, all those.
Speaker 4: Jim Mora who didn't know he was on the air,
Speaker 4: Jim Morris, Jim Mora yeah, oh yeah, because the elder
Speaker 4: Jim More couldn't have been kinder. We used to work
Speaker 4: with him. He loved under Jim Mora, who was who
Speaker 4: was not speaking too highly of us while he was
Speaker 4: waiting to be on the air, but he was already
Speaker 4: on the air.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we were getting by Jim Mora.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Aaron Andrews. When we interviewed Aaron Andrews, it seemed
Speaker 4: like she may have heard my impression over the years,
Speaker 4: at least from the attitude Andrews impressionally at Vowels.
Speaker 1: Some of those people definitely did not want to hang
Speaker 1: out and talk.
Speaker 4: And then there were others Kurt Warner who would call
Speaker 4: in early. Yeah, yeah, Kurt was nothing but class. With
Speaker 4: Kurt Warner and Darren Darren Sprolls, who was on too often.
Speaker 1: We had him on.
Speaker 3: I think back to back, back to back weeks. That
Speaker 3: was great, hey, and I got something off that I
Speaker 3: pulled a looney. We had Dick Stockton on and he
Speaker 3: was great, well, Dick.
Speaker 4: Dick Stockton was always I liked that he laughed at
Speaker 4: my jokes. I would say, you know, something important is happening,
Speaker 4: except for right now. When you hear the voice of
Speaker 4: Dick Stockton.
Speaker 3: Well, very down to earth I've had him on this
Speaker 3: podcast and very down to earth guy like he went
Speaker 3: to Syracuse but as he said, he went to Syracuse
Speaker 3: before it was Syracuse. Well, right, like a normal school
Speaker 3: and it did you know he was in a class.
Speaker 3: I think with Marv Albert and guys like that, wow
Speaker 3: or before it became that was why it became what
Speaker 3: it became.
Speaker 1: But he had a line.
Speaker 3: We we had all these guys on the blitz that
Speaker 3: we did together to promote the Fox games.
Speaker 1: We had some before and some after the game.
Speaker 3: So the guys on were before before the game would
Speaker 3: be trying to get you to, hey, here's why you
Speaker 3: need to watch this game. And so Dick Stockton would
Speaker 3: always call the worst fricking game that Fox had, right
Speaker 3: because he.
Speaker 4: Was getting older and thank god they captain, but they
Speaker 4: didn't give him the best games anymore.
Speaker 3: He was doing dog food games every week and everyone
Speaker 3: knew it. And by the time you get late in
Speaker 3: the year, I mean, it's just why are they playing
Speaker 3: these games?
Speaker 4: Because they're on TV? Exactly, they are on the schedule.
Speaker 4: One of the other Stanza was the one that SAIDs
Speaker 4: on TV. But week one we have the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 4: and the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 3: A week one is a treaty. I do not know
Speaker 3: that that will get a lot of TV. That might
Speaker 3: be a mention. We might not, you know, because of timers.
Speaker 3: This is a half an hour show. It's not going
Speaker 3: to be an hour show. It's gonna be a half
Speaker 3: an hour show.
Speaker 4: Because and then there will be this voiceover, which will
Speaker 4: probably be me. Because of time restrictions, we could not
Speaker 4: get to the Washington Commanders and you guys, we move
Speaker 4: ahead in the broadcast now A yeah.
Speaker 3: But Dick Stocked in his line which I have used
Speaker 3: on Benny Versus the Penny since he said it all
Speaker 3: those years ago to us on the Blitz because he
Speaker 3: was promoting I remember the game. I even remember the game.
Speaker 3: I remember the game because it was such a shit game.
Speaker 3: It was the forty nine ers, who were terrible before
Speaker 3: this is when they were changing coaches every year. They
Speaker 3: like Kelly one year, Jim tom Sula. It was just brutal.
Speaker 3: So Mike Nolan, yeah, Nolan was. It was just a
Speaker 3: bad era for the forty nine ers. And so they
Speaker 3: were playing Tampa Bay, which was also lousy.
Speaker 1: So it was a terrible game.
Speaker 3: A bunch of guys were heard it was late in
Speaker 3: the season, but Dick Stockton has called the game on Fox.
Speaker 3: So I was like, Dick, why should anyone want to
Speaker 3: watch this game? I gave all these numbers about how
Speaker 3: terrible the teams were. Why would I even want to
Speaker 3: watch this game, and he very calmly said, Ben, stats
Speaker 3: tell you what has happened, not what's going.
Speaker 1: To happen, and that.
Speaker 3: I use that line very good all the time. It
Speaker 3: is a wonderful line. It is a wonderful line.
Speaker 1: And it's great.
Speaker 4: That's a great politician right there too.
Speaker 1: Very good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's wonderful because it also applies to the
Speaker 3: gambling world, which we are part of on Benny Versus
Speaker 3: the Penny Least kick Out and now on the games.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna be handicapping these games as I've been
Speaker 3: doing for years, and oftentimes I will pick horrible teams
Speaker 3: because you're getting value, because you're getting points. And I
Speaker 3: can at any moment if you press me on this,
Speaker 3: why are you picking that team?
Speaker 1: They suck? Well, stats, Tom, tell you what has happened,
Speaker 1: not what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And that is a great homage, a tribute to the and.
Speaker 4: As a shout out to our friend Dave Smith. There
Speaker 4: was the Ben and Dave Show, Sporting Dave Show over
Speaker 4: the years, the sports god. He always said, you know
Speaker 4: he would he said, no matter what the stats tell you,
Speaker 4: never bet on a dog bleep team. Right, right, And
Speaker 4: so even if everything is in your favor, be very
Speaker 4: careful if you're gonna put your hard marked, hard earned
Speaker 4: money down on a dog shit team, which good advice.
Speaker 3: The yeah, I mean, I've gone the other way oftentimes
Speaker 3: because to me, my one of my big criteria when
Speaker 3: I look at a game is I want to I
Speaker 3: factor in the the hype for certain teams, like our
Speaker 3: teams overhype, like for example, this year, the Chicago Bears,
Speaker 3: to me, are way over hyped that the Bears for
Speaker 3: the worst team in football last year, and there's a
Speaker 3: small chance that Justin Field is going to be great
Speaker 3: this year. I the way that ESPN and some of
Speaker 3: these national guys are talking about all our life.
Speaker 4: They get so excited if Chicago might be good, So
Speaker 4: it's like Notre Dame all our life. They just get
Speaker 4: so excited that this might be the when I say
Speaker 4: they In general, there tends to still be this nostalgia
Speaker 4: with the Chicago Bears from I don't know when, not
Speaker 4: our life, except for a small throwout statistic one year
Speaker 4: with Jim McMahon, right, yeah, and but yeah, I agree
Speaker 4: with you. It's happened all of it, and with the
Speaker 4: great other the far before the Green Bay Packers had
Speaker 4: far when we were much much younger, and they were
Speaker 4: always bad. They were always thinking hoping it was the
Speaker 4: year because there's some kind of nostalgia connected with obviously
Speaker 4: the oldest team in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rags to riches and that whole thing. They
Speaker 1: love that. But to me, you gotta show me. I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: I like the motto of the State of Missouri, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna show me, don't tell me.
Speaker 1: You got to show me.
Speaker 3: I generally look to teams that are overrated and get
Speaker 3: a lot of public attention, a lot of the money
Speaker 3: and the handle as we call it, on on a
Speaker 3: certain game, if it's if it's flipped one way, like
Speaker 3: of this week, here, this first week, next week, here,
Speaker 3: the first show that we're doing. I look at that
Speaker 3: certain teams, I say, what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: That's crazy?
Speaker 4: And now, so when you take a look at that
Speaker 4: first week just for fun, yeah what because you're cheap.
Speaker 4: So it's always very important to ask you where you
Speaker 4: would put your money here. I want to ask you
Speaker 4: about a game. First of all, Bengals at Browns. I
Speaker 4: never trust the Browns.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. Oh, I don't trust the Browns. But
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's got a bad calf.
Speaker 3: And you look at the the comp or not the
Speaker 3: comp but the the history and history, as Dick Docton said,
Speaker 3: tells you what has that been not But Joe Burrow,
Speaker 3: even when he's been healthy, has played his worst football
Speaker 3: for some reason against the Cleveland Browns. And have a
Speaker 3: pretty good defense, they should be able to mess around
Speaker 3: with Burrow. The offensive line for the Bengals is not
Speaker 3: the greatest. It should be a bet Okay, okay, So
Speaker 3: that's that's why the problem though to me, Deshaun Watson's
Speaker 3: the creepy quarterback and I don't like, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't trust him either. But the Browns as a small
Speaker 3: home underdog, I am going to most likely, barring some
Speaker 3: kind of last minute change of status, I will take
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns really.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, And you would put your money on the
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns in your cheap So that's important to know.
Speaker 3: Not Now, keep in mind on we bet we predict
Speaker 3: every game. Now, there's certain games that the cream of
Speaker 3: the crop. There's certain games that.
Speaker 4: Are Okay, I got to ask you about this one though,
Speaker 4: Jacks at Colts and it's only minus three and a
Speaker 4: half right now or a plus three point five with
Speaker 4: the Colts. Why so little? Aren't the Jaguars ten times
Speaker 4: better than the Colts?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're on the road and so normally on
Speaker 1: the road.
Speaker 3: Factor that in, and there's some history between these two
Speaker 3: teams where Jacksonville normally beats the Colts at home, and
Speaker 3: in Indy they don't play they haven't played particularly well.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but no, listen, I will be taking Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: I hate I trying to find a way to bet
Speaker 3: underdogs as much as I can. The main reason I'm
Speaker 3: going to take Jacksonville and I don't do the whole
Speaker 3: any versus in here.
Speaker 1: But we know we don't.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to pick those two guys. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: guess the main reason why you're gonna take Jacksonville because
Speaker 4: no one can name the Colts quarterback.
Speaker 3: Well, no, the guy his name is Anthony Richardson, and
Speaker 3: he started I think like a dozen or so games
Speaker 3: at Florida. He's hardly played any college football and he's
Speaker 3: very as you would say, Tommy's a green banana.
Speaker 1: I think that was your analogy. Yes, you would use
Speaker 1: about players that are kind of yes, and actually.
Speaker 4: That's my own. By the way, I didn't even steal that,
Speaker 4: which is you.
Speaker 3: Know, what do you say, is there a Tomato analogy
Speaker 3: that you can make? Also, Toma, not necessarily the agreement
Speaker 3: that is perfect though for him. And uh, yeah, there's
Speaker 3: some boy with Atlanta and Arizona and Washington. There are
Speaker 3: some no name quarterbacks that are starting in week one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a pack of hungry puppies, the flotsam and jetsum
Speaker 3: that will be out there.
Speaker 1: But all right, well, well listen, we're ended here, tom
Speaker 1: I'm so excited.
Speaker 3: Any other final thoughts here on this unbelievable opportunity which
Speaker 3: we are going to begin and hopefully the beginning of
Speaker 3: something that will last a long time, we hope. But
Speaker 3: we've got to make it good. People actually have to
Speaker 3: watch or else we won't be on that long. So
Speaker 3: we need you to watch, We need you to get
Speaker 3: all your relatives to watch. And yes, we can then
Speaker 3: achieve the impossible. We can achieve the impost it's us
Speaker 3: against the world, tom, us against the world.
Speaker 4: And one other thing that is really important, the reason
Speaker 4: why you and you would want to get your real.
Speaker 4: Not you, Ben, but you the listener, both of you
Speaker 4: and your relatives. You'd want them to watch. Is because
Speaker 4: we're doing God's work.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.
Speaker 3: And really, when you think about how important picking NFL
Speaker 3: games against an inanimate object, a piece of US currency, old.
Speaker 4: Abe, pay no attention to the hurricanes. Watch us.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about the cost of milk going up or
Speaker 3: the loaf of bread or buttery.
Speaker 4: We're taking pictures of how much it's costing for gas.
Speaker 4: And just watch us and stay home and stop driving.
Speaker 1: You'll save money because you will not be spending money
Speaker 1: while you watch and listen. Radio is great. We love radio.
Speaker 1: I'll forever do radio. Fill have me and you as well.
Speaker 4: Absolutely radio.
Speaker 3: But TV's just radio. But it's got pictures. So a company, thanks,
Speaker 3: thank you. So it's just like doing the radio show, except.
Speaker 4: A radio show from nineteen thirty eight. I got a
Speaker 4: lot of it's like radio.
Speaker 3: I I brought up the story. Actually it's kind of this.
Speaker 3: I feel like Bob Barker a little bit. Not that
Speaker 3: I've just died, but I met Bob Barker when I
Speaker 3: was in college. There was a college radio conference, which
Speaker 3: I don't even think they have anymore. But it was
Speaker 3: at Universal City Walk. They had a get together there
Speaker 3: and Bob Barker was the keynote speaker. He was hosting
Speaker 3: the Prices Right and Bob got up there and we
Speaker 3: were like, why is Bob Barker here?
Speaker 1: It's a radio conference. But Bob had started in radio.
Speaker 4: Ah see, that was great for you guys to know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he started in Springfield, Missouri. He think he told
Speaker 3: the whole story about how he'd gone to Florida with
Speaker 3: his wife at the time, and then they went to
Speaker 3: l A and he hosted a nighttime show on kN
Speaker 3: X in l A. And somebody that was hosting, not hosting,
Speaker 3: one of the production people at Truth or Consequences the
Speaker 3: game show heard Bob Barker's like, Hey, we think this
Speaker 3: guy's pretty good and we want to hire him. And
Speaker 3: so that's what led to him doing Truth or Consequences,
Speaker 3: and then that led to Prices Right.
Speaker 4: And one of the advantages of doing radio in Los
Speaker 4: Angeles was just how i you know, when the best
Speaker 4: damned sports show period was in development, you know, a
Speaker 4: sports show that wasn't going to take itself seriously and
Speaker 4: George Greenberg Box heard a guy on the radio who
Speaker 4: wasn't taking it seriously. And I think I was the
Speaker 4: first one hired with best dam and you know, it
Speaker 4: was one of the advantages of being in radio in
Speaker 4: la is you know, they don't you know, they don't
Speaker 4: have to pay for you to move. Yeah, you were
Speaker 4: patient zero, was patient zero.
Speaker 3: All right, Well this it can be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get started. It's going to be
Speaker 3: a great time all season long. And again, we need
Speaker 3: your help on this. You've been great. I really feel
Speaker 3: Tom and maybe you'll you'll say I'm blowing smoke here.
Speaker 3: But a lot of this is because of the people
Speaker 3: that have followed the show and supported the show and
Speaker 3: people that are.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, a matter of fact, of course, it is
Speaker 4: because some of the producers of the show listen to
Speaker 4: us when they were in college back east. Now they're
Speaker 4: muckety MUCKs, and so.
Speaker 3: It was it was pretty cool when I went back
Speaker 3: to NBC Boston to meet with the people there, and
Speaker 3: a lot of them would hear the overnight show, like
Speaker 3: the last hour because they.
Speaker 1: Live far away.
Speaker 3: They'd have to drive in from out you know, Hampshire
Speaker 3: or wherever into Boston, and so they'd have a pretty
Speaker 3: long commute and they'd get up early and get at
Speaker 3: you know, kind of a run on the traffic, and
Speaker 3: the overnight show ends the last hour of the five
Speaker 3: am hour in the Star.
Speaker 1: Well, it's great catching up to me.
Speaker 4: And one quick thing I want to tell you because
Speaker 4: you'll like it because it's a compliment. It's about you, right. Well, yeah,
Speaker 4: when I was talking to my big muckety muck friend
Speaker 4: at George Greenberg, who was once the big hot shot
Speaker 4: at Fox, were in the entire sports operation, who plucked
Speaker 4: me off the radio and put me on best him.
Speaker 4: I you know, remember how I told you. I told
Speaker 4: very very few people about what we were up to,
Speaker 4: and George was one of that very small list of
Speaker 4: film that began. It was getting longer and longer as
Speaker 4: as the days were going on. But and I didn't mention,
Speaker 4: you know, what we were doing on the show and
Speaker 4: who I was doing it with. He said, oh, of
Speaker 4: course I know who, Big Pat Mallory's very good. So
Speaker 4: he's a big he's a big.
Speaker 3: Fat I appreciate it because one time Eddie Garcia told
Speaker 3: me that he was at a party with an executive
Speaker 3: from Fox who said I was terrible. Uh, and then
Speaker 3: I asked Eddie to name the person, and he refused
Speaker 3: to name the person. And I was thought like, why
Speaker 3: would you say that, Why would you pass that along?
Speaker 1: What kind of a douche canoe? Would you beat the pastor?
Speaker 1: But he did and it's fine, and I.
Speaker 4: You and I both had very positive mothers. Yeah, my
Speaker 4: mother Tuts used to always say, pass along nice gossip.
Speaker 4: If somebody says something nice behind someone's back, pass that along. Yeah,
Speaker 4: if someone says something negative behind someone's back, there's no
Speaker 4: reason to pass.
Speaker 1: That all exactly. It's just Eddie. Stop Eddie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a little lifelesson. Anyway, Well, listen, I will
Speaker 3: see a lot of you this football season.
Speaker 4: Tom.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll have you back here again. And right
Speaker 1: good to me here all right, the great Tom Looney going.
Speaker 1: Thanks Tom, thank you so much,