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Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: The clearing House of Hot takes break free for something special.

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Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now.

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Speaker 1: In the air everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Back at it on another edition of The Fifth Hour

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Speaker 3: with Ben Mahler and Danny g Radio. It is a Friday,

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Speaker 3: but a day that is unlike any other. As we

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Speaker 3: do this radio show five nights a week and on

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Speaker 3: the weekends we have some fun with the podcast. But

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Speaker 3: if you were not listening earlier this week, if you

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Speaker 3: missed the big announcement after months of speculation by people

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Speaker 3: like Alf the Alien, Opiner and others who have sent

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Speaker 3: back to Boston, if you missed the announcement, I was

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Speaker 3: in Boston for work, but I am very excited to

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Speaker 3: announce if you've not heard yet, that after many years

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Speaker 3: of doing Benny Versus the Penny on radio on this podcast,

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Speaker 3: we did one season on YouTube that we're now heading

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Speaker 3: up to the big leagues. If you will as Benny

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Speaker 3: Versus the Penny picked up by NBC and you'll be

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Speaker 3: The hub will be in Boston on NBC Sports Boston.

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Speaker 3: I went back to Boston a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: I don't normally do that kind of stuff being on

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Speaker 1: But everything's been great.

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Speaker 3: Everything's been wonderful, and it will be on NBC Sports Boston,

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Speaker 3: Beyond all the NBC cable channels around the country and

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Speaker 3: So we'll be everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Will Tom Looney be on the show?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's right, that's right, the voice representing the penny

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Speaker 3: and television's Tom Looney.

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Speaker 4: They wanted someone to challenge your comfort level, now Looney,

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Speaker 4: they brought it me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna be the Vana White of the show.

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Speaker 4: I will I will expose which side of the coin

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you will be the keeper of the coin,

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Speaker 3: which is a very nice job, Tom, the keeper.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I realized that we're doing God's work and I'm

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Speaker 3: So we are reunited, Tom. After how many years did

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Speaker 3: we do the blizz? I've known you forever.

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Speaker 4: Since nineteen nights this last century.

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Speaker 3: The facts of the day, the huge facts of the day.

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Speaker 3: But you're gonna be with me every show. Tom will

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Speaker 3: Tom and I have been close to some very exciting jobs. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I have been a finalist for big time media jobs

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Speaker 3: The first time I met Pat, He's still he was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was there. I was there Tom the night.

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Speaker 3: So this show, Tom, is that the Benny versus the

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Speaker 1: A local show. This show is going to be on everywhere.

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Speaker 1: This is what it is.

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Speaker 4: Well, you just mentioned or lost in Los Angeles. That's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna be on every major market.

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Speaker 4: I mean we've just picked this up through casual conversation

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Speaker 3: I don't even know where the show is gonna be on,

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Speaker 1: From what I was told. Maybe I'm wrong on this,

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Speaker 3: Okay, we pick every game, and you're the keeper of

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Speaker 3: tom as you have of course regularly on television. I

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Speaker 3: can't go a night when I walk into the building

450
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Speaker 3: in Sherman Oak's there to do the overnight show, and

451
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Speaker 3: they have all these TVs on.

452
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Speaker 4: Oh and you see my Boner pill commercial?

453
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Speaker 1: Yes, well I don't.

454
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Speaker 3: I see you out of the corner of my eye

455
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Speaker 3: and then I see you walking out on the field,

456
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Speaker 3: and yes, I see a cut to Doug Flutie and

457
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Speaker 3: Frank Thomas. Did you even did you meet those guys

458
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Speaker 3: or were you filming your part?

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Speaker 1: Separate separate?

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Speaker 4: No, I didn't get to repay, so no, I did not.

461
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Speaker 4: We didn't film that on the same day.

462
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Speaker 3: But it seems like you know them because on television

463
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Speaker 3: with them, Yes, all the time.

464
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Speaker 4: Have you seen my Johnny Rockets commercial which is put

465
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Speaker 4: I didn't even know Johnny Rockets had commercials until I

466
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Speaker 4: until I filmed them. No, if you haven't seen it,

467
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Speaker 4: you can go to my Twitter page and I have

468
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Speaker 4: it pinned.

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Speaker 1: Well. I remember you did you were a TV dentist.

470
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Speaker 1: I remember that, Yes.

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Speaker 4: L I bank, Yes, yes, And I'm doing a series

472
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Speaker 4: of commercials now for Native Wings. It used to be

473
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Speaker 4: Hurricane Grilling Wings, which is all over the Northeast and southeast. Yeah,

474
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Speaker 4: and so will I have a new series of those

475
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Speaker 4: coming out. I'm just the voice of that one. I

476
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Speaker 4: was the face of that one as a play, I

477
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Speaker 4: was playing a sportscaster. People don't realize the depth of

478
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Speaker 4: my talent.

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Speaker 1: Well, that is difficult for you, Tom is H. And

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Speaker 1: I love that you're doing your day job. You're doing news.

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Speaker 3: Would you consider that the day job? And I love

482
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Speaker 3: that you do the looney news.

483
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Speaker 4: Yes, I am allowed to give the I have full

484
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Speaker 4: editorial control, and I am allowed to write it and

485
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Speaker 4: deliver it my style. In other words, I'm allowed to

486
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Speaker 4: make it all about me, which is really I have

487
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Speaker 4: a program director who likes what I do. Normal journalists

488
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Speaker 4: and news people don't inject themselves into the story. I

489
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Speaker 4: have a hard time not doing that. So either here

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Speaker 4: I am with fancy writing, or here I am, you know,

491
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Speaker 4: with the fancy drop. Hey it's loony. Oh did you

492
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Speaker 4: hear that? Oh my god, speaking of fancy, did you

493
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Speaker 4: hear this?

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Speaker 1: Oh? You have the NBC shows.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go back and watch the the

496
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Speaker 3: Howard Stern movie.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, private parts, b Yes, private parts. I

498
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Speaker 4: used to listen to that. I used to listen to

499
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Speaker 4: the station in the far off distance under my covers

500
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Speaker 4: with the transistor radio. The late night guy was named Baby.

501
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Speaker 4: I I am Baby six to six NUMBERBC. I thought

502
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Speaker 4: he was great. Howard thought he was terrible. Howard would

503
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Speaker 4: always make fun of him because Howard came in, stopped

504
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Speaker 4: playing records, just started talking. And then I thought that

505
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Speaker 4: was amazing. I just I just wanted to be a

506
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Speaker 4: great disc jockey. And then I heard him and I said, wait,

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Speaker 4: I just want to.

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Speaker 3: Well, the stern thing is rather wild too, because he's

509
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Speaker 3: done a one eighty like the way he started and

510
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Speaker 3: the way he operates now. You talk about changing your personically.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he has. He a lot of what he hated

512
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Speaker 1: he's now become. It's pretty, it's.

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Speaker 4: Interesting and apologized to all the people he used to

514
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Speaker 4: make fun of. And I think because your part of

515
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Speaker 4: being entertaining on the radio over the years, and you

516
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Speaker 4: maintain the immature part of your personality, and so you

517
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Speaker 4: mock things. You mock and you joke, and you mock

518
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Speaker 4: and you mock like you're in the cafeteria in high school.

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Speaker 4: And that's a lot of what sports talk has been

520
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Speaker 4: over the years, and FM morning shows like his and

521
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Speaker 4: then he he had he was a late bloomer. He

522
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Speaker 4: started to mature at about sixty, went to therapy and

523
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Speaker 4: then started calling people on the phone that he would

524
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Speaker 4: make fun of, like Robin Williams and others and try

525
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Speaker 4: to uh yeah.

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Speaker 3: And he made his fortune though based on what he

527
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Speaker 3: had been and now he's well.

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Speaker 4: He also was always a great interviewer, and so what

529
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Speaker 4: he really concentrates now on is interviewing and that really

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Speaker 4: that that means a lot less mocking. And I just

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Speaker 4: follow some of his interviews on Instagram. Uh they post

532
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Speaker 4: him and God, he's good. I sall make that guy.

533
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Speaker 4: I won't say what his name was, but he's a

534
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Speaker 4: TV guy who covers the Dodgers. And then they'll the

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Speaker 4: game will be over and they'll throw to him and

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Speaker 4: they'll say, Dodger's a gun. And that's the kind of

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Speaker 4: insight we give you here the Dodger.

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Speaker 1: Now, will we be giving that kind of insight on

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Speaker 1: Bennie versus the penny? Will well you.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you will break it down, shake it and

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Speaker 4: bake it, sauc and toss it. Give us why the

542
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Speaker 4: point why the point spread is what it is. You'll

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Speaker 4: be giving us your pick, and then I, as Vanna White,

544
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Speaker 4: will reveal the penny pick and then we will see

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Speaker 4: how well you do with your saddleback college partial degree

546
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Speaker 4: against an an animate object.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So the great thing is it's it's a rivalry.

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Speaker 1: This rivalry goes.

549
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Speaker 3: But you think about great rivalries like Ohio State, Michigan US.

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Speaker 4: I want to know about this because on your little

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Speaker 4: radio show, you've had a rivalry with this penny. How

552
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Speaker 4: many years have you won? How many years has the

553
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Speaker 4: penny won?

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Speaker 3: Well, we don't need to get into the minutia of that,

555
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Speaker 3: but this started. This started about twenty years ago. In fact,

556
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Speaker 3: we had Turk Stevens on Turk.

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Speaker 4: Was that's how old it is?

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's how old is The original coin was Turk

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Speaker 3: in the early days of Fox. At some point it

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Speaker 3: was originally Ben versus the coin, and then we we

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Speaker 3: changed it and.

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Speaker 4: So it has so it had kind of a rhyme

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Speaker 4: to it.

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Speaker 3: I like it, Yeah, Benny versus the penny's gotten more poetic,

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Speaker 3: yesh to it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But in fact, I told you one of my top

568
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Speaker 3: five quotes before we got on here. Andy Warhol's life

569
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Speaker 3: is a series of images that change as they repeat themselves.

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean we've done Benny versus the

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Speaker 3: Penny over the years, and but you know it's kind

572
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Speaker 3: of it's the same the same. The games are different

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Speaker 3: obviously every year and all that.

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Speaker 4: This is a side card ques.

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Speaker 1: You're a favorite quote.

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Speaker 4: By the way, it to you, well, just as a

577
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Speaker 4: quick side note to that. Online you can go to

578
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Speaker 4: Andy Warhol's grave and it changes color every fifteen minutes

579
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Speaker 4: because his quote was also in the future, everybody will

580
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Speaker 4: be famous for fifteen minutes. And you hear that. It's

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Speaker 4: probably the most often repeated quote of anybody ever, more

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Speaker 4: than Shakespeare. You know, we requote a lot of Shakespeare

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Speaker 4: stuff without knowing it, and we also requote a lot

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Speaker 4: of Warholing and stuff without knowing it, including everyone will

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Speaker 4: be paid because you hear that as a shot, he

586
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Speaker 4: got us fifteen minutes of fame. Let's get rid of him.

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Speaker 1: You you hear that a lot.

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Speaker 3: Now you've got to update the reference, right because now

589
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Speaker 3: it's like, how long is the social media life span?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fifteen misuses less than that, maybe it's more than that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's like you, it just depends

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Speaker 4: on which person it is. Remember that got the homeless

593
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Speaker 4: guy who who did voiceovers for a while for the

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Speaker 4: Today Show that would come to Ohio. Yes, and then

595
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Speaker 4: there was another one, how'd your kids? How'd your wife?

596
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Speaker 4: And how'd your husband too? They're ripping everybody around here.

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Speaker 4: Remember that guy, I don't, I don't, Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: If I send it to you, you probably will, Oh

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Speaker 4: my god. He was legendary for fifteen minutes now here.

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Speaker 3: My favorite quote of all time, Tom, and I've given

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Speaker 3: you this over the year. My favorite quote of all

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Speaker 3: time is a quote of a guy who's street.

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to drive down to go to

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Speaker 1: work now to do.

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Speaker 3: The TV show w Fields okay, And his quote was

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Speaker 3: he's an early Hollywood he's a comedian and actor and

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Speaker 3: an alcoholic and you know old Hollywood guy. He said,

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Speaker 3: if you can't dazzle them with brilliant, it's baffle them

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Speaker 3: with bullshit. That was I think that's one of the

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Speaker 3: great quotes of all your career in Mike, there no brilliance,

611
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Speaker 3: just bullshit. And but it works either way. You can

612
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Speaker 3: either you dazzle them or you baffle them.

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Speaker 4: And we've got pretty good at disguising the bullshit as

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Speaker 4: brilliance at times because we've stolen the brilliance from others

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Speaker 4: like w C and Dusty Baker's inside.

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Speaker 3: Well, of course, and that's as we are reunited, Tom.

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Speaker 3: For all those years we did the Blitz and all

618
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Speaker 3: these the wild interviews, the great lines, your famous four

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Speaker 3: run home run when I.

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Speaker 4: Was before goad Slam.

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Speaker 1: Nobody else, nobody has else had that content.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I think it was Mookie that hit

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Speaker 4: that back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I think I think it was I want to say

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Speaker 3: it was Jared Salta Lamachia. No, really, it was Jared

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Speaker 3: Salta Lamachia.

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Speaker 1: But who knows. It doesn't really matter who hit it.

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Speaker 3: Remember that and all the Fox people. We had to interview,

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Speaker 3: all the NFL people, Joe Buck, Aikman, Aaron Andrews, all those.

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Speaker 4: Jim Mora who didn't know he was on the air,

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Speaker 4: Jim Morris, Jim Mora yeah, oh yeah, because the elder

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Speaker 4: Jim More couldn't have been kinder. We used to work

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Speaker 4: with him. He loved under Jim Mora, who was who

635
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Speaker 4: was not speaking too highly of us while he was

636
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Speaker 4: waiting to be on the air, but he was already

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Speaker 4: on the air.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we were getting by Jim Mora.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Aaron Andrews. When we interviewed Aaron Andrews, it seemed

640
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Speaker 4: like she may have heard my impression over the years,

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Speaker 4: at least from the attitude Andrews impressionally at Vowels.

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Speaker 1: Some of those people definitely did not want to hang

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Speaker 1: out and talk.

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Speaker 4: And then there were others Kurt Warner who would call

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Speaker 4: in early. Yeah, yeah, Kurt was nothing but class. With

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Speaker 4: Kurt Warner and Darren Darren Sprolls, who was on too often.

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Speaker 1: We had him on.

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Speaker 3: I think back to back, back to back weeks. That

649
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: was great, hey, and I got something off that I

650
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Speaker 3: pulled a looney. We had Dick Stockton on and he

651
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Speaker 3: was great, well, Dick.

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Speaker 4: Dick Stockton was always I liked that he laughed at

653
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Speaker 4: my jokes. I would say, you know, something important is happening,

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Speaker 4: except for right now. When you hear the voice of

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Speaker 4: Dick Stockton.

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Speaker 3: Well, very down to earth I've had him on this

657
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Speaker 3: podcast and very down to earth guy like he went

658
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Speaker 3: to Syracuse but as he said, he went to Syracuse

659
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Speaker 3: before it was Syracuse. Well, right, like a normal school

660
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Speaker 3: and it did you know he was in a class.

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Speaker 3: I think with Marv Albert and guys like that, wow

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Speaker 3: or before it became that was why it became what

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Speaker 3: it became.

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Speaker 1: But he had a line.

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Speaker 3: We we had all these guys on the blitz that

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Speaker 3: we did together to promote the Fox games.

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Speaker 1: We had some before and some after the game.

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Speaker 3: So the guys on were before before the game would

669
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Speaker 3: be trying to get you to, hey, here's why you

670
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: need to watch this game. And so Dick Stockton would

671
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: always call the worst fricking game that Fox had, right

672
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: because he.

673
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 4: Was getting older and thank god they captain, but they

674
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 4: didn't give him the best games anymore.

675
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: He was doing dog food games every week and everyone

676
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 3: knew it. And by the time you get late in

677
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: the year, I mean, it's just why are they playing

678
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: these games?

679
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: Because they're on TV? Exactly, they are on the schedule.

680
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 4: One of the other Stanza was the one that SAIDs

681
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 4: on TV. But week one we have the Arizona Cardinals

682
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 4: and the Washington Commanders.

683
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: A week one is a treaty. I do not know

684
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: that that will get a lot of TV. That might

685
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: be a mention. We might not, you know, because of timers.

686
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: This is a half an hour show. It's not going

687
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: to be an hour show. It's gonna be a half

688
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: an hour show.

689
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: Because and then there will be this voiceover, which will

690
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 4: probably be me. Because of time restrictions, we could not

691
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: get to the Washington Commanders and you guys, we move

692
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 4: ahead in the broadcast now A yeah.

693
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: But Dick Stocked in his line which I have used

694
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: on Benny Versus the Penny since he said it all

695
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: those years ago to us on the Blitz because he

696
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: was promoting I remember the game. I even remember the game.

697
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: I remember the game because it was such a shit game.

698
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: It was the forty nine ers, who were terrible before

699
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: this is when they were changing coaches every year. They

700
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: like Kelly one year, Jim tom Sula. It was just brutal.

701
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 3: So Mike Nolan, yeah, Nolan was. It was just a

702
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: bad era for the forty nine ers. And so they

703
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: were playing Tampa Bay, which was also lousy.

704
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: So it was a terrible game.

705
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: A bunch of guys were heard it was late in

706
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: the season, but Dick Stockton has called the game on Fox.

707
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: So I was like, Dick, why should anyone want to

708
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: watch this game? I gave all these numbers about how

709
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: terrible the teams were. Why would I even want to

710
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: watch this game, and he very calmly said, Ben, stats

711
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: tell you what has happened, not what's going.

712
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: To happen, and that.

713
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 3: I use that line very good all the time. It

714
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: is a wonderful line. It is a wonderful line.

715
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: And it's great.

716
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 4: That's a great politician right there too.

717
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: Very good.

718
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's wonderful because it also applies to the

719
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: gambling world, which we are part of on Benny Versus

720
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: the Penny Least kick Out and now on the games.

721
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna be handicapping these games as I've been

722
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 3: doing for years, and oftentimes I will pick horrible teams

723
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: because you're getting value, because you're getting points. And I

724
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: can at any moment if you press me on this,

725
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: why are you picking that team?

726
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 1: They suck? Well, stats, Tom, tell you what has happened,

727
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: not what's going to happen.

728
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

729
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: And that is a great homage, a tribute to the and.

730
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: As a shout out to our friend Dave Smith. There

731
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 4: was the Ben and Dave Show, Sporting Dave Show over

732
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 4: the years, the sports god. He always said, you know

733
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 4: he would he said, no matter what the stats tell you,

734
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 4: never bet on a dog bleep team. Right, right, And

735
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: so even if everything is in your favor, be very

736
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 4: careful if you're gonna put your hard marked, hard earned

737
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 4: money down on a dog shit team, which good advice.

738
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: The yeah, I mean, I've gone the other way oftentimes

739
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: because to me, my one of my big criteria when

740
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: I look at a game is I want to I

741
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: factor in the the hype for certain teams, like our

742
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: teams overhype, like for example, this year, the Chicago Bears,

743
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: to me, are way over hyped that the Bears for

744
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: the worst team in football last year, and there's a

745
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: small chance that Justin Field is going to be great

746
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: this year. I the way that ESPN and some of

747
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: these national guys are talking about all our life.

748
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 4: They get so excited if Chicago might be good, So

749
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: it's like Notre Dame all our life. They just get

750
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: so excited that this might be the when I say

751
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 4: they In general, there tends to still be this nostalgia

752
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 4: with the Chicago Bears from I don't know when, not

753
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: our life, except for a small throwout statistic one year

754
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 4: with Jim McMahon, right, yeah, and but yeah, I agree

755
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 4: with you. It's happened all of it, and with the

756
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 4: great other the far before the Green Bay Packers had

757
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 4: far when we were much much younger, and they were

758
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 4: always bad. They were always thinking hoping it was the

759
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 4: year because there's some kind of nostalgia connected with obviously

760
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 4: the oldest team in the NFL.

761
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rags to riches and that whole thing. They

762
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: love that. But to me, you gotta show me. I'm gonna.

763
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: I like the motto of the State of Missouri, I'm gonna.

764
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna show me, don't tell me.

765
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: You got to show me.

766
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: I generally look to teams that are overrated and get

767
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: a lot of public attention, a lot of the money

768
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: and the handle as we call it, on on a

769
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: certain game, if it's if it's flipped one way, like

770
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: of this week, here, this first week, next week, here,

771
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 3: the first show that we're doing. I look at that

772
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: certain teams, I say, what are we doing here?

773
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: That's crazy?

774
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 4: And now, so when you take a look at that

775
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 4: first week just for fun, yeah what because you're cheap.

776
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 4: So it's always very important to ask you where you

777
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 4: would put your money here. I want to ask you

778
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 4: about a game. First of all, Bengals at Browns. I

779
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 4: never trust the Browns.

780
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. Oh, I don't trust the Browns. But

781
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's got a bad calf.

782
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: And you look at the the comp or not the

783
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: comp but the the history and history, as Dick Docton said,

784
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: tells you what has that been not But Joe Burrow,

785
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: even when he's been healthy, has played his worst football

786
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: for some reason against the Cleveland Browns. And have a

787
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: pretty good defense, they should be able to mess around

788
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: with Burrow. The offensive line for the Bengals is not

789
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: the greatest. It should be a bet Okay, okay, So

790
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 3: that's that's why the problem though to me, Deshaun Watson's

791
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: the creepy quarterback and I don't like, you know, I

792
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 3: don't trust him either. But the Browns as a small

793
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: home underdog, I am going to most likely, barring some

794
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: kind of last minute change of status, I will take

795
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns really.

796
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, And you would put your money on the

797
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns in your cheap So that's important to know.

798
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: Not Now, keep in mind on we bet we predict

799
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: every game. Now, there's certain games that the cream of

800
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: the crop. There's certain games that.

801
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 4: Are Okay, I got to ask you about this one though,

802
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 4: Jacks at Colts and it's only minus three and a

803
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: half right now or a plus three point five with

804
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 4: the Colts. Why so little? Aren't the Jaguars ten times

805
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 4: better than the Colts?

806
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're on the road and so normally on

807
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: the road.

808
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: Factor that in, and there's some history between these two

809
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 3: teams where Jacksonville normally beats the Colts at home, and

810
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: in Indy they don't play they haven't played particularly well.

811
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, but no, listen, I will be taking Jacksonville.

812
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 3: I hate I trying to find a way to bet

813
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: underdogs as much as I can. The main reason I'm

814
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: going to take Jacksonville and I don't do the whole

815
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: any versus in here.

816
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: But we know we don't.

817
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: I just wanted to pick those two guys. Yeah, I

818
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 4: guess the main reason why you're gonna take Jacksonville because

819
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 4: no one can name the Colts quarterback.

820
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 3: Well, no, the guy his name is Anthony Richardson, and

821
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: he started I think like a dozen or so games

822
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 3: at Florida. He's hardly played any college football and he's

823
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: very as you would say, Tommy's a green banana.

824
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: I think that was your analogy. Yes, you would use

825
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: about players that are kind of yes, and actually.

826
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 4: That's my own. By the way, I didn't even steal that,

827
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 4: which is you.

828
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: Know, what do you say, is there a Tomato analogy

829
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 3: that you can make? Also, Toma, not necessarily the agreement

830
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: that is perfect though for him. And uh, yeah, there's

831
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: some boy with Atlanta and Arizona and Washington. There are

832
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: some no name quarterbacks that are starting in week one. Yeah,

833
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: there's a pack of hungry puppies, the flotsam and jetsum

834
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: that will be out there.

835
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 1: But all right, well, well listen, we're ended here, tom

836
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm so excited.

837
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 3: Any other final thoughts here on this unbelievable opportunity which

838
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: we are going to begin and hopefully the beginning of

839
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: something that will last a long time, we hope. But

840
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: we've got to make it good. People actually have to

841
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 3: watch or else we won't be on that long. So

842
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: we need you to watch, We need you to get

843
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: all your relatives to watch. And yes, we can then

844
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: achieve the impossible. We can achieve the impost it's us

845
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 3: against the world, tom, us against the world.

846
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 4: And one other thing that is really important, the reason

847
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: why you and you would want to get your real.

848
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 4: Not you, Ben, but you the listener, both of you

849
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 4: and your relatives. You'd want them to watch. Is because

850
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 4: we're doing God's work.

851
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.

852
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: And really, when you think about how important picking NFL

853
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 3: games against an inanimate object, a piece of US currency, old.

854
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 4: Abe, pay no attention to the hurricanes. Watch us.

855
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: Don't worry about the cost of milk going up or

856
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 3: the loaf of bread or buttery.

857
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 4: We're taking pictures of how much it's costing for gas.

858
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: And just watch us and stay home and stop driving.

859
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: You'll save money because you will not be spending money

860
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: while you watch and listen. Radio is great. We love radio.

861
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: I'll forever do radio. Fill have me and you as well.

862
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 4: Absolutely radio.

863
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: But TV's just radio. But it's got pictures. So a company, thanks,

864
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 3: thank you. So it's just like doing the radio show, except.

865
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 4: A radio show from nineteen thirty eight. I got a

866
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 4: lot of it's like radio.

867
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: I I brought up the story. Actually it's kind of this.

868
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: I feel like Bob Barker a little bit. Not that

869
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 3: I've just died, but I met Bob Barker when I

870
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 3: was in college. There was a college radio conference, which

871
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 3: I don't even think they have anymore. But it was

872
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: at Universal City Walk. They had a get together there

873
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: and Bob Barker was the keynote speaker. He was hosting

874
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: the Prices Right and Bob got up there and we

875
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: were like, why is Bob Barker here?

876
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: It's a radio conference. But Bob had started in radio.

877
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 4: Ah see, that was great for you guys to know.

878
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, he started in Springfield, Missouri. He think he told

879
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: the whole story about how he'd gone to Florida with

880
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 3: his wife at the time, and then they went to

881
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 3: l A and he hosted a nighttime show on kN

882
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: X in l A. And somebody that was hosting, not hosting,

883
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: one of the production people at Truth or Consequences the

884
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: game show heard Bob Barker's like, Hey, we think this

885
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 3: guy's pretty good and we want to hire him. And

886
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 3: so that's what led to him doing Truth or Consequences,

887
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 3: and then that led to Prices Right.

888
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 4: And one of the advantages of doing radio in Los

889
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 4: Angeles was just how i you know, when the best

890
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 4: damned sports show period was in development, you know, a

891
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 4: sports show that wasn't going to take itself seriously and

892
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: George Greenberg Box heard a guy on the radio who

893
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 4: wasn't taking it seriously. And I think I was the

894
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 4: first one hired with best dam and you know, it

895
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 4: was one of the advantages of being in radio in

896
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 4: la is you know, they don't you know, they don't

897
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 4: have to pay for you to move. Yeah, you were

898
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 4: patient zero, was patient zero.

899
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 3: All right, Well this it can be a lot of fun.

900
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get started. It's going to be

901
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: a great time all season long. And again, we need

902
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 3: your help on this. You've been great. I really feel

903
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: Tom and maybe you'll you'll say I'm blowing smoke here.

904
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: But a lot of this is because of the people

905
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 3: that have followed the show and supported the show and

906
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: people that are.

907
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 4: Oh yes, a matter of fact, of course, it is

908
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: because some of the producers of the show listen to

909
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 4: us when they were in college back east. Now they're

910
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: muckety MUCKs, and so.

911
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 3: It was it was pretty cool when I went back

912
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: to NBC Boston to meet with the people there, and

913
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: a lot of them would hear the overnight show, like

914
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: the last hour because they.

915
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: Live far away.

916
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: They'd have to drive in from out you know, Hampshire

917
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 3: or wherever into Boston, and so they'd have a pretty

918
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 3: long commute and they'd get up early and get at

919
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: you know, kind of a run on the traffic, and

920
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 3: the overnight show ends the last hour of the five

921
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 3: am hour in the Star.

922
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: Well, it's great catching up to me.

923
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 4: And one quick thing I want to tell you because

924
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 4: you'll like it because it's a compliment. It's about you, right. Well, yeah,

925
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 4: when I was talking to my big muckety muck friend

926
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: at George Greenberg, who was once the big hot shot

927
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 4: at Fox, were in the entire sports operation, who plucked

928
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: me off the radio and put me on best him.

929
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 4: I you know, remember how I told you. I told

930
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 4: very very few people about what we were up to,

931
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 4: and George was one of that very small list of

932
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 4: film that began. It was getting longer and longer as

933
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 4: as the days were going on. But and I didn't mention,

934
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: you know, what we were doing on the show and

935
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 4: who I was doing it with. He said, oh, of

936
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 4: course I know who, Big Pat Mallory's very good. So

937
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 4: he's a big he's a big.

938
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 3: Fat I appreciate it because one time Eddie Garcia told

939
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: me that he was at a party with an executive

940
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: from Fox who said I was terrible. Uh, and then

941
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: I asked Eddie to name the person, and he refused

942
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 3: to name the person. And I was thought like, why

943
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 3: would you say that, Why would you pass that along?

944
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: What kind of a douche canoe? Would you beat the pastor?

945
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: But he did and it's fine, and I.

946
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 4: You and I both had very positive mothers. Yeah, my

947
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: mother Tuts used to always say, pass along nice gossip.

948
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 4: If somebody says something nice behind someone's back, pass that along. Yeah,

949
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: if someone says something negative behind someone's back, there's no

950
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 4: reason to pass.

951
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: That all exactly. It's just Eddie. Stop Eddie.

952
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a little lifelesson. Anyway, Well, listen, I will

953
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: see a lot of you this football season.

954
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 4: Tom.

955
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll have you back here again. And right

956
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: good to me here all right, the great Tom Looney going.

957
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: Thanks Tom, thank you so much,