WEBVTT - Kevin Dillon

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Son of a Butch podcast. You guys know,

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<v Speaker 1>the drill drops every Wednesday. I am your host, Claude Harmon.

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<v Speaker 1>This week's guest, UM, this week's guest is the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why I wanted to do the podcast in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Dillon a k a. Johnny Drama from Entourage. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not a fan of Entourage, you you need

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<v Speaker 1>Drama is one of the greatest television characters of all time. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that we've been trying to get Kevin on

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<v Speaker 1>the pod for a while. He's a big golfer, comes

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<v Speaker 1>from a big golf family. Golf has been a huge

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<v Speaker 1>part of that show, so to get him is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the defining moments of my life. But before we

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<v Speaker 1>get to the interview with Kevin Dillon. All right, my

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<v Speaker 1>guest today is Kevin Dillon. Kevin. When I say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a fan, I am a huge fan, and I might.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife watches when I quote movies and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, how do you have this photographic memory? I

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<v Speaker 1>watch Entourage and I and I can quote it like

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<v Speaker 1>every episode. So it's it's huge to do this. But

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<v Speaker 1>Heaven help us. You started that in the early eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>Um four bro, my screws a loose brother, my crew

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<v Speaker 1>brother brother Daddy. Yeah, yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually, uh, when I got beat by the priest.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually the actor was my first real movie, so

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<v Speaker 1>I actually I got my head bashed against the black boy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, brother, Yeah, I'm sorry brother. He actually hit

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<v Speaker 1>my head on the blackboard so many times that the

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<v Speaker 1>next day they were like, we were really sorry because

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<v Speaker 1>I came in with I was like, I got a headache,

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<v Speaker 1>I got bumps in my head. They gave me. It

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<v Speaker 1>was my first they called a stunt adjustment, which means

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<v Speaker 1>they gave me like five bills and back then five

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<v Speaker 1>all bills. To me, it was a big deal. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, five hunch baby for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of bumps on the head. I'll take it. Um. When

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<v Speaker 1>you look back at that time in your life, Kevin,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but the career that you've had, and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it started with something like that. When you're on

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<v Speaker 1>a movie set and you're trying to be an actor

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<v Speaker 1>and you're that young, do you have any idea what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing. I mean, it's got to be all completely

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<v Speaker 1>new to you at that stage of your life. To

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<v Speaker 1>be on a big movie set with other actors and

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<v Speaker 1>you're you've got to do all this. It must have

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<v Speaker 1>been crazy. I mean, how old were you when you

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<v Speaker 1>filmed that movie? I was like seventeen, man, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the hell. I was done. I really did

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<v Speaker 1>I did do. I did a couple of school plays

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<v Speaker 1>right here in Memarnick at the Emlyn Theater. It was

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<v Speaker 1>one school play, but I did three nights at the

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<v Speaker 1>Emlyn Theater. I played Petruchio in The Taming and the

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<v Speaker 1>Shrew and that kind of gave me the bug. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I love the reaction I got from the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was the first and last time I've done stage.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do it again sometime, but that was it. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as I heard the laughter and the applause,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I want to do this. When you

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<v Speaker 1>were storing in your first movie. Your brother matt Um

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<v Speaker 1>who I mean growing up, I mean I watched all

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<v Speaker 1>of his movies, right, I mean, he was that that

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<v Speaker 1>was he was like a like a supertar Teenbeat magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on the cover of teen Beat. He hated

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<v Speaker 1>being on teen Beating, Tiger Bag and all those. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on a couple of those two, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know they to be honest with you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for him, it was super embarrassing. He wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of he wanted to be taken seriously. I was

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<v Speaker 1>happy to be like uh, get one page in there somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>But did you feel at any point competition with your brother,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean he's he's acting, you're acting. Um what

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<v Speaker 1>was that like that that kind of that brother relationship

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<v Speaker 1>when you're both trying to do the same thing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no competition because he was already I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt was a huge star when I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>work my way up and I was lucky to be working,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I was happy to be working. But I

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<v Speaker 1>never really really caught up to him, and I still haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say I've definitely gotten I've gotten closer with entourage,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt about that. Hey, he was in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some cool stuff. But I mean you were in platoon

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<v Speaker 1>when you're you know, in your late teens, no doubt. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been probably nineteen or twenty. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty cool with with Charlie Sheen, who I just

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<v Speaker 1>did a pilot with by the way, really yeah, me

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<v Speaker 1>and Charlie did a pilot and who knows, maybe it'll

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<v Speaker 1>get picked up. It's called Ramblan. It's a really really

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<v Speaker 1>cool pilot. We'll see what happens. But he's by buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of cool work with him that many years later,

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<v Speaker 1>Such a great guy when you went um and shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>I can still remember my dad fought in Vietnam. I

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<v Speaker 1>still remember going to see Tune with my dad. He

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<v Speaker 1>was busy. He never talked about Vietnam as as as

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<v Speaker 1>an experience. He couldn't talk about it. And that movie,

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<v Speaker 1>I think for him was a really kind of changing

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<v Speaker 1>experience for him because he saw a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that he went through. Um, did you all on

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<v Speaker 1>that set have an idea that that was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be such a big film? You know what? I didn't? I? Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver Stone was cool and he let us all sit.

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<v Speaker 1>He invited us to the premiere after we got cast,

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<v Speaker 1>to the premiere of a movie he did called Salvador,

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<v Speaker 1>and we all went and we checked it out. We're like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a really really good movie and this script

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<v Speaker 1>Platoon is great. I think we got a really a

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<v Speaker 1>good chance at being a good movie. Did we know

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to be like this legendary movie and

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<v Speaker 1>when all those awards? I didn't know that, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I do remember Tom Barranger said, Hey, guys, breathe it in,

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<v Speaker 1>take this in. You're never gonna get a moment like this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is as good as it gets. We're in the Philippines,

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<v Speaker 1>were dying, there's mosquitoes and it was disgusting. But I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he he knew that we were onto something special

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<v Speaker 1>and it really was. And we had a great time

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and the movie was huge. We saw it

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<v Speaker 1>at this he had a we had a premiere at

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<v Speaker 1>the Zigfeld Theater and I remember right after the movie ended,

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<v Speaker 1>the place went silent. Usually there would be applause, but

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was like stunned by the movie. And then it

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<v Speaker 1>just and I was like, oh no, they hated the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>but then both they erupped it with it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like unbelievable people and I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>they loved this movie. I mean it was really Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty cool. I didn't know what we had,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, I don't think anyone really did, except for

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Beranger. I think if you look at all the

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<v Speaker 1>people that were in Platoon, they were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them were like yourselves. They were starting out and they've

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<v Speaker 1>gone on to have unbelievable careers and become worldwide phenomenons

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<v Speaker 1>as actors. Yeah, I mean some of these guys, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I I talked to Keith David recently. I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to get him because I I did a movie called

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<v Speaker 1>Buddy Games too. We did a sequel to the first

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<v Speaker 1>Buddy Games. It's gonna be hilarious, but I wanted Keith

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<v Speaker 1>David in there, so I called them off and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Keith, you gotta do it, and he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do because he already had a couple of things set up.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, yeah, I mean, all these guys, it's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>how much we've all stayed in contact. John C McGinley,

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny c who's Captain O'Neill, he's in the movie that

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<v Speaker 1>I did in the in the pilot I did with

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie as well. So that one's gonna be cool because

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's got a little bit of Entourage. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Connolly's in it and some of my Platoon guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's directed and written by Doug Allen, who created Entourage.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll we'll see what happens to the pilot. If

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<v Speaker 1>I was a betting man, i'd say, yeah, it goes,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know a lot of pilots don't go, so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens. I don't think people realize, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm in the golf world. You're an actor,

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<v Speaker 1>you love golf. But I don't think people realize how

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<v Speaker 1>hard it is to actually be an actor and say

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you want to try and do and then

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<v Speaker 1>actually make it. I think Entourage did an amazing job

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<v Speaker 1>at at showing people that whole process of the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of up and down. And I always say, I lived

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<v Speaker 1>in l A for almost three years. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite places I lived in Hollywood. I lived up

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hollywood Hills, and I'm so glad that I

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<v Speaker 1>lived in l A. Because when I watch Entourage and

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<v Speaker 1>people go, oh, you know, I'm like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's it's really like that. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you you guys did an unbelievable job and encapsulating kind

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<v Speaker 1>of that Hollywood, but not in kind of the way

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<v Speaker 1>that it was in like you know, Tim Robbin in

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<v Speaker 1>the Player where you couldn't figure that out right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just too you know, that Warren Beatty era of

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<v Speaker 1>what Hollywood was supposed to be like. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>Nto Roge encapsulated what kind of being young and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make it in Hollywood is Um, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have an enormous amount of fixed skin. I mean your

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<v Speaker 1>character Johnny Drama, which to me is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest television you know, rules of all time. But that

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<v Speaker 1>type of thing where you're the butt of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of jokes, but you're basically that character is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do what you did, just trying to make it get

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<v Speaker 1>any part. And he did it. He did it too,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, because in the movie he won to

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<v Speaker 1>a Golden Globe, which I've been nominated. I didn't win,

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<v Speaker 1>So Johnny Dramas actually surpassed me. But but I love

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<v Speaker 1>the character, and it's the great thing about that shows

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<v Speaker 1>it showed both sides of it. Not everyone's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be Vince, you know. Um Mark Wahlberg, who this the

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<v Speaker 1>whole show is kind of based upon. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>been blessed. Everything he touches seems to work out great

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<v Speaker 1>and uh but and it's been been really good for

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<v Speaker 1>his brother too. Donnie's done really well. And the Drama

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<v Speaker 1>character wasn't really based on Donnie. Donnie has done he

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<v Speaker 1>Donnie's killed it himself. It's more based around Uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>calls him his cousin. This guy Johnny Alves and but

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<v Speaker 1>I love I've had so many actors come up to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm carrying the flag for all actors

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<v Speaker 1>who have been struggling and fighting and trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>it done and who have been like disrespected in auditions.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, I love that audition, Seed, when when

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<v Speaker 1>you were in there, you stood up against you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when they he was on his cell phone, he should

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<v Speaker 1>have been listening to you. You know. I love all

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<v Speaker 1>those scenes are great. Um, it was really great writing,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I love the cast. The other guys were great.

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<v Speaker 1>But it really does show you what Hollywood is like,

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<v Speaker 1>was like and will always probably be like I mean

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<v Speaker 1>with the army stuff and you got the agents, the managers,

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<v Speaker 1>the lawyers and you know, business managers, all these aspects

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<v Speaker 1>of this show. We're all great. Uh. How much, Kevin,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like Hollywood is hard work honing your

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<v Speaker 1>craft and how much of it is chance? Dumblock that

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<v Speaker 1>that the stars aligned and you get a break and

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<v Speaker 1>something happened. Cause I think everybody like sports thinks and

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of young golfers who come to

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<v Speaker 1>me all the time. The dad says, you'll never meet

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<v Speaker 1>anyone that will work harder than my son or my daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, that's kind of a prerequisite. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>make it work hard if you want to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the PGA tour. Yeah, I mean, I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of both. In Hollywood, though, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of I was a little lucky to have my

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<v Speaker 1>brother Matt, who's already a big, big names, so that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of helped me out. But now there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got like thirty five years in the business, So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're not gonna make it past the first

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<v Speaker 1>five if you're not good and if you don't work hard.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a little it's a little bit of both.

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<v Speaker 1>In Hollywood. You have to have a certain look for

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<v Speaker 1>the right I mean sometimes I can't tell you how

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<v Speaker 1>many times they said, oh, they like you, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were gonna go in a different direction, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>then obviously if your calfs aren't right for the role,

0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and of course one of the great, one of the great,

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<v Speaker 1>now you made me do it. Here we go, Here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. Look Look look at that implant. Huh look

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<v Speaker 1>at that thing? Wait, wiggles around. That's a real deal

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<v Speaker 1>right there. That's that's that's no implant bro how much um.

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<v Speaker 1>Right after the US opened the Tiger One in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight, I was working I was living in

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<v Speaker 1>l A. And my dad was working with Phil Nicholson

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and they shot the episode at Trump

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<v Speaker 1>National where Phil was in the episode. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>the Monday Tuesday after. I remember all the guys were

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<v Speaker 1>there and stuff. Um, golf has played. I think a

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<v Speaker 1>huge part of Entourage. I mean, it's amazing to me

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<v Speaker 1>was that your guy's input that we're the golfers, was

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<v Speaker 1>that Doug was that the writers was at Mark whose

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<v Speaker 1>idea was to put so much golf content in Entourage. Well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you, that was me that made

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<v Speaker 1>that happen because I met Phil. I was I was

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<v Speaker 1>a Jerry Ferrara. We were we were playing at San Diego,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we were at the Bridge's Great Golf Course

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, we just finished up around and we were

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<v Speaker 1>going in to have lunch and Phil Michelson walked right

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<v Speaker 1>by and he did the cap thing, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, the little cap tip. But but he

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't more like to cover himself up, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be recognized right now. He's walking out

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<v Speaker 1>to his trunk, and I was like, I can't let

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<v Speaker 1>this go. I gotta say what's up to Phil? And

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<v Speaker 1>I went in with my dad because my dad was

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<v Speaker 1>a portrait is you know, he passed just a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's a great portrait painter. He painted all the greats,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Jack and Arnie and you know Gary Player

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<v Speaker 1>and Phil. And so I went up and I said, hey, Phil,

0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Dill, I just have to say hi, because he

0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:24.600
<v Speaker 1>was really trying to get away. He didn't wuld not

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<v Speaker 1>want to be right. And he went, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a drop. So he loved he loved the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was cool. And I said, you know my

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<v Speaker 1>dad and he goes, yeah, yeah, And he told this

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<v Speaker 1>great story about how when he my dad took a

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<v Speaker 1>picture a Phil to paint him. But when he and

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<v Speaker 1>Phil post for the for the picture and he was like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad was like, do you want a golf club?

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<v Speaker 1>You want to hold the golf club? He's like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they so they just grabbed any old golf club

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<v Speaker 1>and he was a right handed golf club and he

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<v Speaker 1>took it and he painted the right handed golf club.

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<v Speaker 1>And then later when my dad presented the painting to fill.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad went, oh my god, I give you a

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<v Speaker 1>painted you with the right handed golf club. Give it

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I'll fix it. I'm gonna change it to

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<v Speaker 1>a left handed club. He goes, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. Phil said, I like it just the

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<v Speaker 1>way it is. I love the story behind it. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>it right handed. I love it. And Phil told me

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<v Speaker 1>that story. My dad had forgotten about that, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we sat down. He's like, come join us for lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>We and we sat and we talked, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize that the episode that was on the way didn't

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<v Speaker 1>air yet, was just the one where are He says,

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<v Speaker 1>he's collapsing like Phil at Wingfoot? So I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>is that big and I forgot that that didn't there

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<v Speaker 1>and that was on its way out. But I said, Phil,

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<v Speaker 1>we I would love to have you got to do

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<v Speaker 1>the show? Will you do Entourage? He goes, hell, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll definitely do Entourage. I called Dog Allen right away.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Dog, I got Phil Nicholson. When you right

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<v Speaker 1>him into the show. He goes, yeah, put them on.

0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.359
<v Speaker 1>I put the two of Mom and the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>this history. But when he saw that episode, he went

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<v Speaker 1>to dog, he went like so collapsing like Philip Wingfoot. Uh,

0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:16.680
<v Speaker 1>And of course Doug was like, yeah, sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we didn't know what we're gonna get you

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<v Speaker 1>as a guest spot, but when you know, we love you.

0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:24.639
<v Speaker 1>And he was a really great guest. He signed every autograph,

0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.560
<v Speaker 1>took photos of the all crew. He was the best.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Phil And then the episode where you take

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady's club, you hit the bat shot, you break it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, did you think that you would be the

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<v Speaker 1>butt of a couple of years ago when Bryson's at

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<v Speaker 1>the British Open, he's talking about how he doesn't like

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<v Speaker 1>you were the meme that everybody was coming up with.

0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.480
<v Speaker 1>They were putting Bryson's face on you beating the club up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's amazing how you could have never envisioned

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<v Speaker 1>that that could happen. That was hilarious. And I love Bryson.

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<v Speaker 1>I love what you know. What he did here at

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<v Speaker 1>Wingfoot was amazing. I mean this place, so Bryson's great,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a great champion for wing Foot, but they also

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<v Speaker 1>had uh Brooks was in there too, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>to be Brooks and so I mean both of those

0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.000
<v Speaker 1>guys I love. But it's so funny how that carries

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<v Speaker 1>on the you know. Um. It was one episode of many,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was fun. And the crazy thing about we

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<v Speaker 1>tried to break that club so many times and they

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<v Speaker 1>prop guys kept scoring the club and they wanted me

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<v Speaker 1>to break it over my knee and it just looked

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<v Speaker 1>like crap. It was like it would break like a pencil.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, guys, this club would not break

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<v Speaker 1>like this. This looks terrible, and they all agreed. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>just let me break this. Back the camera up so

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<v Speaker 1>you could see the whole my whole body, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>break this club properly. I know how to break a club,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you. So I took it. I slam

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<v Speaker 1>it on the ground and I stepped on it and

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<v Speaker 1>it came out like that you shape, which was perfect,

0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and I held it up and and then there is

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<v Speaker 1>turtle go. You broke Tom Brady's club at you asshole.

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<v Speaker 1>It was It was great. I mean, it was an

0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:11.200
<v Speaker 1>episode that was that was so fun that the plus fours,

0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.240
<v Speaker 1>I was wearing the hat, I looked like Payne Steward.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just it was awesome. I love golf and

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<v Speaker 1>I got all the guys into golf. Who who's the best? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>on the cast of On, I'm the best. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>terrible right now. I mean I'm really I'm struggling. I

0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.639
<v Speaker 1>didn't get to play all summer. So I actually, uh

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<v Speaker 1>tried to get an emergency lesson yesterday and I couldn't

0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:41.520
<v Speaker 1>get one because our pro was ill. And but I

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<v Speaker 1>need a little work right now. But when I'm hitting

0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the ball, well, I got down to a seven and

0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.400
<v Speaker 1>uh but right now, Jerry Fer was hitting the ball

0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.399
<v Speaker 1>really well. Kevin Connolly just joined the golf club and

0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:55.919
<v Speaker 1>he's starting to strike the ball. Everyone's into it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel, you know, I got a little pride, So

0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you know that the fact that I enter u's these

0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.600
<v Speaker 1>guys to the game in a lot of ways. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great. So golf is a big part of it

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<v Speaker 1>and a big part of who we are. It was

0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:14.600
<v Speaker 1>a big part of the show. And Doug Ellen loves

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<v Speaker 1>golf too, so the creator of Entourage. Uh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just golf is me. I just love this place. I

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<v Speaker 1>love foot I love everything about it. Let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break and we are back my dad. Um, they

0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:42.159
<v Speaker 1>used my dad's name. In an episode to where um,

0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:44.919
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Piven Ari's in in his in his office and

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:46.680
<v Speaker 1>he says the Lloyd. He's like, Lloyd, if I don't

0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:48.119
<v Speaker 1>I think it was like, if I don't win the

0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:51.440
<v Speaker 1>club championship, I'm gonna sue, butch Harmon's ask. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>my claim to fame that my dad actually is entreage.

0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I called my dad when I saw the episode. I said, hey, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're an entrepage. What the hell's entourage? And

0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:00.280
<v Speaker 1>then and then he saw it and he was, yeah,

0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:01.639
<v Speaker 1>I like that show. And I'm like, yeah, sure, you

0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:03.840
<v Speaker 1>like the show. That's great. Like the show because I

0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:07.360
<v Speaker 1>used your name, you know. Uh, of course your dad

0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:09.919
<v Speaker 1>was a legend around here. I've heard your dad. My

0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:13.240
<v Speaker 1>dad talked about your dad many times, and I mean,

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not your dad, but your your grandfather, and um, yeah,

0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's it's a it's a He was a

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.720
<v Speaker 1>real big part of this place right here at Wingfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty cool. It's pretty cool being in the locker room

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.920
<v Speaker 1>right here. We're in the Crow's nest, so normally you're

0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:33.280
<v Speaker 1>not allowed to have a cell phone anywhere near this place,

0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.920
<v Speaker 1>so it's nice to be you know, communicating like this

0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:40.560
<v Speaker 1>at Wingfoot. You know, my dad went to um Iona Prep.

0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:45.080
<v Speaker 1>No way, no way. My dad also went to Iona

0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:49.399
<v Speaker 1>not Prep, but he went to Iona Iona College. I

0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.960
<v Speaker 1>read that the high school you went to Mamaroneck. Um

0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:56.560
<v Speaker 1>your brother went there? Um Michael O'Keeffe who was in

0:22:56.640 --> 0:23:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Caddy Shock. Yes, yes, Gabriel Russell I mean and his member,

0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:03.560
<v Speaker 1>his brother is a member here. Who would have thought

0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:06.959
<v Speaker 1>all of those people who went to that high school

0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 1>would have gone on to have real legit careers in Hollywood.

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:16.479
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah. You know Westchester County,

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 1>they they breed some some good athletes, some good actors

0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>out here. Did you play um junior golf, high school

0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 1>golf growing up? Or I didn't? You know what I'm from.

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:32.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm one of six five boys. My dad loved golf

0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 1>and tried to get us into it, and we were like.

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<v Speaker 1>It starts with my older brother Paul. I'm gonna blame

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 1>him because he was like, where golf is for whimps,

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 1>We don't play golf, you know. He played baseball, basketball, football,

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:48.639
<v Speaker 1>That was his attitude. And now we all play golf,

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 1>and we all wish we started when my dad said, hey,

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 1>come with me to the range. You know, but we didn't.

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't start until my late twenties. That's

0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 1>why my swing does not hold up. You know, I

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 1>need a little help. I gotta come pay you visit.

0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:07.000
<v Speaker 1>We we we can definitely help you with the golf

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 1>side of things. That would be good. I think most

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.400
<v Speaker 1>people that are going to be listening to this will

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 1>be very surprised, um, that golf has been such a

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>huge part of your life and a huge part of

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 1>your family. I mean, your your father, you said he

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<v Speaker 1>was the golfer. Did you look up to him and think, Okay,

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 1>one day, when I'm older, maybe I'll get into this,

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:30.719
<v Speaker 1>like you said, because you and I are kind of

0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:34.280
<v Speaker 1>relatively you know, of that same generation. I never played

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of golf growing up because when I was

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 1>growing up, golf wasn't cool. It was old men out

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 1>of shape and funny clothes. You know, there was no

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>tiger Woods, there was no you know, it wasn't any

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 1>of that. And now and now, um, you know, golf

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:53.879
<v Speaker 1>is cool. Yeah, you know what it wasn't. Well, once

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I got into it. My younger brothers started before me,

0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and they he was a member at Wykey Gel Nourish

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh and Uh. We used to just go there for

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 1>the pool. So it was like, you know, we could

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 1>go to the pool, we get some of those drink

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>tickets and he eat some hotdogs and beers and jump

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>in the pool. And then my younger brothers started playing.

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 1>I guess my dad got to him. He talked one

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 1>of the men to play into the father's son, and

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 1>then I started kind of you know, I mean, I

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:25.120
<v Speaker 1>started playing a little bit, and then I got roped

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>into the father's son and they called that apology golf,

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:30.360
<v Speaker 1>where you're not allowed to I kept hitting it into

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the woods and I was sorry. Dad. He's like, don't

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 1>apologize it. But we had I had a great time.

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's when it kind of happened. I was maybe

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:42.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight. I wish I started younger and uh. And

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 1>then I have two daughters and I can't get it

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 1>either or ment to golf. My youngest daughter's got a

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:51.360
<v Speaker 1>great golf swing, but it's like I gotta twist arm

0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 1>to get her to play. It's the best sport in

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 1>the world. You just sometimes when you're young, you gotta

0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.199
<v Speaker 1>be pushed a little bit. I think you know you

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 1>mentioned my grandfather who was the longtime head pro at Wingfoot.

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:05.199
<v Speaker 1>He's kind of synonymous with that, but not a lot

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 1>of people know this. Um, they were, my dad said

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:10.679
<v Speaker 1>when they were younger, my grandfather, they were members at

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>why Kagill. So my dad played in no more round.

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 1>He played more rounds at why Kagill probably than he

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:20.400
<v Speaker 1>did at Wingfoot. Great story, Um, I want to say,

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.920
<v Speaker 1>is that the last hole that's a par five where

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 1>you've got to hit it over water? My dad said,

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 1>because my dad was, you know, pretty rebellious. He said

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:30.199
<v Speaker 1>they'd be in the middle of the fairway, it'd be

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 1>down wind, and he said he just pull out three

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 1>wood and he and his brothers, his brother's you know,

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:37.680
<v Speaker 1>my uncle Dick, my uncle Craig, Mouncle Billy would go no, no, no,

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:39.919
<v Speaker 1>you's got too much club. My dad said, he just

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>he take the three would out and just hammer it

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:44.359
<v Speaker 1>because he wanted to hit the clubhouse and he'd be

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>banging it off the clubhouse like tin cup until I

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:54.120
<v Speaker 1>get it over. East Coast is a big part of

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the Entourage story. Um, did you guys did was that

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>from Mark? Was that from Doug? Did you and I'm

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 1>always interested on a show like Entourage, which is so

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 1>which is so iconic, how much input as an actor

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:13.120
<v Speaker 1>were you able to put into the show and your

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.919
<v Speaker 1>character or was it listen, you know, this is script,

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>you do this, you know. It was a little bit

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>of both. The script was the script. But as the

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>show started taking off, if I had an idea, I would,

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 1>you know. That's why I felt me and Doug Ellen

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>are really great friends. If I have an idea about something,

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I could throw it to him. He might write it. So,

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, every one of these scripts kind of came

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>through all of us, like anyone could have said, told

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Doug a story about what happened in Hollywood or what

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 1>happened on a golf course and all these kind of

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>crazy things. But yeah, it was it was a little

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:53.439
<v Speaker 1>bit of both. And if I wanted to change something,

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I would have to pretty much have to do it

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 1>in advance, don't do it on the set. He I'd

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.679
<v Speaker 1>have to call dog, it's a Doug, I'd like to

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>change that to this if that's okay. And as long

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>as I did that, he'd be that most of the time,

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>he'd be like a So I would uh, I'd be

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>able to change, but he didn't really like you just

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 1>going off on your own. He put a lot of

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 1>thought into his words. He wanted to he wanted him

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:23.199
<v Speaker 1>said kind of the way he wrote them. That was

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>my other question. I mean, as an actor, are there

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>directors and people that you do movies with, but say, listen,

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.199
<v Speaker 1>why don't you try and bring your own ideas? And

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.639
<v Speaker 1>you kind of have that license to ad lib on

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 1>the fly while the cameras are rolling, And then I'm

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>sure they're directors are like, do it this way I

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>wrote it. It's my baby, this is the way I wanted. Yeah.

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean one thing was Doug wrote great dialogue, so

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean the tweaks were very small, if I had any.

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>But the last movie I just did wash It's It's

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>it's great, but it's a different kind of thing. It's

0:28:56.480 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>more of an improv and um it was Buddy Games.

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>There was a Buddy Games one and it did really well,

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and then we just shot at the sequel Buddy Games too,

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna be hilarious and it's all kind of

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 1>like we're figuring it out as we go, and it

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>was so fun to do. It really is a lot

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>of fun. You know, you hear a lot about actors. Um.

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>One of the things I think it's really interesting about

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Entourage is um Vince's character and Ari's character. There's that

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>scene where she he's trying to get Vince a job

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and somebody in the in the meeting talks about a

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>television job. And you know, this idea that Vince was

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 1>a movie star not a television store. Do you find

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>it interesting now that that line has been so blurred

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>because now Netflix, Hulu, it seems like a lot of

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the things that are great on TV, not basically old

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>school kind of movie star stuff. A lot of the

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>great work is on TV now. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.719
<v Speaker 1>there's there's no long or a movie actor and a

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>TV actor. Now you could do you could do both

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>pretty much. But that was that was the way it

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>was growing up. I did all movies, and then once

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I broke into TV, it was like I couldn't get

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>a movie job because I was a TV actor. Now,

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>so I was doing TV. Thank God, that's different now

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>and I could work both sides of you know, doing both.

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>But still you'll see guys like, you know, Leo DiCaprio

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>is not doing any TV shows. He's he's a movie star.

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna keep making movies and uh, but but there

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of crossover now and that's good. That

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>opens things up for guys like me. You also, I mean,

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>if you think about some of the biggest stores in Hollywood,

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>they got their start on TV and they go on

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>to be these mega, mega superstars. Yeah. Yeah, and then

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>there are other guys who started the movies like me

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>and then moved on to TV. But yeah, it's uh,

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you gotta start somewhere, you know, with a with a

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>with a show like Entourage, with the character that you played,

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>do you ever get tired of people calling you Johnny Drama?

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, because I mean, I mean, you're synonymous with

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that character. Yeah, you know what, it doesn't bother me,

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>It really doesn't. I take it as a compliment. And um,

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was called Matt Dilan's kid brother for

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>most of my life, so I had that, and so

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Dramas, all right, that's something I created and I'm

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of proud of it. The Victory podcast, Um, whose

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>idea was that? I mean, I listened to it. It's

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>it's great to to listen the the angle of the podcast.

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Thank you I want to get you on by the

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 1>way you get it when you come out to l A,

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>come on by and to come pay us a visit

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 1>out there. But it was Kevin, Kevin Connolly. Uh, he

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>was like, I got this a big thing. I'm gonna

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>do this, not not just a podcast, but a whole studio.

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, so Action Park Studios, So he's got a

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of podcasts. They'll probably try and recruit you

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>knowing him, but he, uh, it was his idea, and

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>it was right during the pandemic, and and it was

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>when nobody was working. I mean, there was nothing going on,

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, hey, let's go. We went in. We

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't know if any of us had COVID. I mean,

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>it was so weird back then. We sat around the

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 1>table and we did our first couple. Then we got

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 1>comfortable and we had a good time, and then things

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 1>started opening up a little bit. But yeah, I mean

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>it was great to just hang out with the guys

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 1>because Entourage had ended and I didn't get to see

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>him as offen. I love these guys great. I mean

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>we're really really tight. So Kevin and Doug and myself

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 1>and Jerry Ferrare and some of the guys w don't

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>get to see us off, like Adrian Grenier, there's still

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, love there and I can't wait to see that.

0:32:56.360 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>We're real tight. Jeremy Piven came on the podcast, asked,

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:04.480
<v Speaker 1>and he's got a podcast going. It's uh, it's a

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a great family. It really is the Entourage family.

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>We all felt watching it that there was that you

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>were like a family on the show, and it's it's

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>it's it's cool to hear that as the show has

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>ended and you all have going on to do other things,

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 1>that there still is that because I think that what

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>for those of us that watched it, we we felt

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>like we were part of it. We felt like we

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 1>were That's what I love about the show the most

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>is how much these guys, I mean, no matter what

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>they do or what they're up to, they care so

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>much for each other and they would do anything for

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>each other. The show is so l a but yet

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>it was so New York. It was like, these guys

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>are boys from New York and they'll do anything for

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>each other. And that that's what's really cool about it.

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>It had a lot of heart and there's so many

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>one line I mean, I have to deal with agents

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>all the time, you know, and I say to him

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I'm like, dude, you're so e right now, quit

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>being e. Like quit don't be a suit hey suit,

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>take it easy, right, And I think that's like a

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>really cool part of There's so many parts of that

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>show that give people that will never have an opportunity

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>in Hollywood. But you know, I mean the Johnny Drama,

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the Victory Viking Quest, all that stuff. Um, you know,

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the fact that that I that people get to realize

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>that your character wasn't on NYPD but pacifically. That was

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>another one of my favorite specific Blue Specivic Blue. I mean,

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:32.320
<v Speaker 1>all the the jobs that Johnny Drama had are amazing.

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>He had so many, Like his resume was massive. Did

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.879
<v Speaker 1>was that was that dog? Did that? Or did you

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>go to him and say, listen, may would be cool

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>if Johnny Drama had this past and he started this

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:48.800
<v Speaker 1>commercial that was all Doug. That was all Doug me

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>that stuff up, you know, and even like Vance started

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 1>off doing Mentos commercials, you know, I mean, that's all

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Doug and his genius. He's just a really uh great writer.

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>So show I'm Entourage ran for so long, Kevin, do

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you have what are some of your I mean I've

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>got obviously, and everybody listening that sin entoge fan will

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>have their favorite episodes or favorite scenes. Um, what are

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>some episodes and some scenes, um that are your favorite

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>as as as somebody that was a part of that,

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. I got a couple of episodes and and

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>one of them is actually the golf episode because I

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>love golf Tom Brady. That was actually supposed to be uh,

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.359
<v Speaker 1>originally that was supposed to be Eli Manning and he

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>couldn't do it for some reason, and Mark Wahlberg called

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>up Tom Brady and tom Brady's like, yeah, Doug Ellen

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 1>had to rewrite the whole script to make it makes sense,

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>and it was It was great. It was like I

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>just love that episode because I love golf. And it

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>was a weird day because I was hitting the ball

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>so pure off the tape and like every shot they're like,

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:57.240
<v Speaker 1>all right, Dylan, that you gotta hit a bad shot now, okay,

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I didn't want to hit a

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 1>bad every moment it's like right down the middle. So

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I had a purposely like hit a duck hug and yeah,

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean that that That is one of my favorites.

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>But my number one favorite is when Johnny Drama is

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>like all nervous because he's got a Five Towns is

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 1>coming out. He's just afraid he's gonna get bad reviews.

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>He's got horrible reviews in the past. I think a

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 1>bird flies through the window and it's bad karma. He's like, oh,

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:29.800
<v Speaker 1>this is bad look and then the reviews come out. Well,

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.800
<v Speaker 1>he's like he's in a in an Asian rubbing tug

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, uh, trying to hide. He's like, what

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:37.879
<v Speaker 1>are you a variety? And here get rid of that thing,

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, and he finds out she's like, well, why

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 1>don't you just read it? I read and I get

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a bad review. I storm out of there. I think

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 1>my career is over. He drives out to the Grand Canyon,

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>hammered by the way, which I don't know if you

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>would ever see that again, you know, drinking and driving

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 1>out to the Grand Canyon, and you think he's like

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>in a draw the Lincoln off the cliff, wakes up

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 1>in the morning like the show got picked up as

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 1>a huge hit or it was the victory moment, so

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 1>it was this great victory moment, I would say to me,

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>just for my character and for me as an actor,

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I was able to show a lot in that one show,

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of you know, you're trying to be funny,

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>but you're trying to be you want to keep it

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 1>real at the same time. And it's also very sad

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 1>for him. He's just like this nervous records whole career.

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.359
<v Speaker 1>And and that's what Drama was all about. It wasn't

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 1>about trying to get the girl and trying he wanted

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to be it. It wasn't even so much the fame. Yeah,

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>he liked the fame, but he just he was really

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>serious about being a good actor and being a great

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, he loved that. He loved the acting part

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>of it. And he was a great character man. You

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>don't come across guys characters like this too often. He

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 1>was a career character of me. I've never had a

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>better character. I've never been able to play someone as interesting.

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I've had some really good parts Bunny, Platoon and all

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>these great parts, but Johnny Drama is still right up here.

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 1>He's top top of the list for me. Is it hard, Kevin,

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>when you're on such a hit show like that? And

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>your characters for everybody on the show. When everybody's character

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>is so defined and your so linked to that character,

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>is it hard after it ends to say, Okay, this

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:31.760
<v Speaker 1>is I've got to pivot, this is the next phase

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 1>of my life, because I'm sure you probably after that

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 1>got loads of roles where you're like, I mean, do

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I really want to do this because it's kind of

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>like what I've done already. Yeah. Yeah, That's all I

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>was getting was Johnny drama types, you know what I mean.

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>So for a while, I just got a bunch of

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Johnny drama type. But it's also you kind of get pigeonholed,

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a little type cast, and and

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 1>it takes a while they actually come out of it.

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>It takes years. Only time will kind of heal that.

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 1>But you get you know, they're like, oh we we

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:06.960
<v Speaker 1>we love, we love Kevin, Johnny Drama, we love Johnny.

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 1>They're basically calling you Johnny Drama, we love Johnny Drama.

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 1>You're a casting director. It's Kevin Dillon. You know, I

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>could do other stuff, but really they do. They you

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of get typecast, and not just me, but pretty

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 1>much everyone on the show. And it's Uh, I'm lucky.

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I've been able to fight out of it and just

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 1>keep plugging. And it's tough man to keep this career

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>going for that many years, over thirty years. It's hard, man,

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>really is. It's funny. Uh, you know, I'm currently working

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:42.320
<v Speaker 1>with a player, Pat Perez. I love, I love I

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know him personally, I love it. I love him.

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Hats made the decision to go to live. Um. Every

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, he got paid, he's he's playing on DJ's team,

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and everybody's just constant on social media saying he's a bomb,

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 1>he's a bomb, he's a bomba And I'm like, dude,

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 1>the guy played for twenty years on the PGA who

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>are never lost its card in the Tiger Phil era

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 1>to do that, I mean, people don't realize to have.

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.359
<v Speaker 1>And very similar to the reason I bring it up,

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 1>like yourself, the career longevity that you had to start

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 1>starring in movies, you know, in the early eighties and

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>it's two you're still getting work. I mean that's that

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 1>would be a scene in Entourage that people would go

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.919
<v Speaker 1>out that that kind of stuff doesn't happen. Yeah, yeah,

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I totally get by. I mean if it's

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of like the movie industry back and they the

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 1>forties where the studios they're gonna pay you, you know

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, you get paid for doing you work

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 1>for them, and then you kind of but it's hard

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:49.399
<v Speaker 1>to say no to that. And I really I don't.

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:53.839
<v Speaker 1>I have nothing but respect for all those guys, and Uh,

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I probably would do the same. You know. There's that

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>scene where you guys are on the floor at the

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Laker game, and and and Ian and Vincent the characters

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 1>or something. He doesn't want to get type cast, and

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.839
<v Speaker 1>and and a Jeremy Pipogos, but there's Batman and there's

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the Joker wading around. He's a typecast. Is rich guys

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 1>right as billionaires or whatever have you are? Have you

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:20.839
<v Speaker 1>been surprised, um, that Adrian who played Vince, has you know,

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 1>going in a different direction, um and has basically kind

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 1>of forged his own path away from the world that

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>you guys were all in. Not really, you know, Adrian

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:36.799
<v Speaker 1>is is uh is a great guy, sensitive guy, and

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 1>he's a real he really cares about the environment a

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:43.320
<v Speaker 1>lot as to why, but I have so much respect

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 1>for him because he's he's really doing something about it.

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, you know I bought a tesla. That's not

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:51.359
<v Speaker 1>really I I'm trying to do my part. But he's

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 1>out there trying to save the whales. He's trying to

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>clean up the ocean. He's trying to do all kinds

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 1>of things. And I I'm hoping to be more like

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.879
<v Speaker 1>him as the future goes by and I'm gonna I'm

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna do more. I love what he does and he's

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's a great human being. Last Entourage question, Um,

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 1>not nuts. I don't care. I love it. Um, you

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 1>were the chef on the show. Um, talk to me

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>about your cooking skills. You have real cooking skills like

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:21.879
<v Speaker 1>you did on the show. I do, man, I do.

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I love to cook, But to be honest with you,

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really I was okay before Entourage. I wanted

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 1>to learn to make really make it look like I

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>knew what I was doing. So I actually had a

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 1>body of mine. It was a chef teach me. Had

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 1>a chop You'll see I I you curb the fingered Ugh,

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 1>they're chopping. I'll I'll have everything going. I would wipe

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Speaker 1>the plates clean. These are little things that I would

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 1>do like that. I thought would be a real Johnny

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:51.840
<v Speaker 1>drama that you know, wipe off the plate as he

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:55.440
<v Speaker 1>serves Vince. You know, I wanted to Uh, I wanted

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to make him this, you know, just the guy who

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:02.439
<v Speaker 1>was over the top with the cooking. But I love

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 1>it and I've become better because of Johnny Drama. I

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>could I cook a mean meat ball. I can make

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, great bowling as little mac and cheese. I

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 1>don't mess around. I'm pretty good. Um. Wire room with

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis. Um, he's a legend. Um. What was it

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 1>like working with Bruce? And obviously Bruce is going through

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the issues health wise that he's going through, But to

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:30.720
<v Speaker 1>to I spent a lost weekend in Manhattan with Bruce Willis.

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>He came to a golf school in Las Vegas with

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 1>a friend of the Carmines Azora. UM, my dad and

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I at our golf school in Vegas. We taught him

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:40.439
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, hey, we should stay in touch.

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 1>And it's like late nineties and but yeah, Bruce, let's

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 1>stay in touch. Like three weeks later he called me.

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 1>He goes in Philadelphia, I'm filming this movie The sixth Cents.

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to come to New York and play

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>some golf. And I'm like, yeah, sure, So I go

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.400
<v Speaker 1>to New York. Um. We end up that weekend playing

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>at Wingfoot with Donald Trump. Um. We played at Westchester

0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Country Club with Jack Nick Wilson and he went to

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Game one. We went to Game one of the World

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Series with Tino Martinez hit the Grand Slam against them,

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the San Diego Padres and and I'm sitting there and

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no one is ever going to believe this story.

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Spike Lee was there, and no. I mean,

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.919
<v Speaker 1>that's that's amazing, man. How was it? Was? He pretty good?

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Pretty he was Bruce Bruce Actually, you know he's left handed.

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 1>He hits it. You know, Bruce hits it pretty good.

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's got a good swing. He's athletics. You know,

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:34.399
<v Speaker 1>he still plays. I heard that. It's the one thing

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 1>he still he still plays, and he's I hear, he's

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 1>still pretty good. We didn't have days off on the

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>same at the same time, so we didn't get to

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 1>play together. I did work with them twice. I did

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 1>two movies with him. The first movie, I didn't have

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 1>any scenes with him. The second movie, of course, uh uh,

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 1>hot Wire Room we had a lot of stuff together,

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:01.760
<v Speaker 1>and he's a great guy and he uh, it's it's

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>it's a tough time. He's going through it right now,

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:06.919
<v Speaker 1>but he still gets it done. He was still good

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>in the movie, and he still enjoys golf, and he's

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:13.359
<v Speaker 1>still uh, you know, he's got his boys with him,

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 1>and they every time they would go to do a movie,

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 1>that would go play a couple of rounds of golf.

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:22.359
<v Speaker 1>And apparently he could still hit the ball. You know,

0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 1>he looks great too. He's only Yeah, do you watch

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of golf? I mean, I'm always surprised at actor, celebrities,

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>athletes that how much golf do you watch? You know?

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 1>It depends right now, lately I have been watching as much.

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>But I mean i'll watch I won't miss a major.

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I won't miss any major, so uh but most of

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the time if it's on, it'll be between football and golf, right.

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, I love golf. Favorite golf courses that you've

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 1>gotten to play? And what are some golf courses that

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 1>are on your kind of Johnny drama bucket list? Well,

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. You know, it's sounds wrong to say,

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>but Wingfoot is as good as a guess I can't

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 1>be as good as a game. I just I don't know.

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 1>It's just straight no bs, it's right there in front

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 1>of you. You know, take me if you can. Kind

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>of golf course, but I've had, you know. I played Pebble.

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I love Pebble. Cypress Cypress is pretty pretty special. That

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 1>was good, really great. I still haven't been to Augusta.

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I would love to play Augusta. I would love to

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:40.239
<v Speaker 1>play Pine Valley. My dad was kind of a big

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 1>guy over a Pine Valley. They all know him. I

0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 1>think you might have some portraits hanging up there or something.

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 1>But uh, yeah, I would love to do Pine Valley.

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, I mean I just love golf. So St

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Andrew's gotta do. I did a bunch in Ireland. I did.

0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I love Ireland. But I used to a golf simulator.

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:03.880
<v Speaker 1>It's called it was called a full swing golf simulator.

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember. We used it in

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:08.799
<v Speaker 1>an entourage and I was like, hey, what does it

0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 1>take for me to get a golf I want one

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.719
<v Speaker 1>of these? And they're like, well, we could probably work

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>something out. So they flew me out to the Big

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Golf Convention in Florida, and I got up there and uh,

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:24.240
<v Speaker 1>they kind of broke down my swing. It was Jim Flick,

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Jim McLean, sorry, Jim McLean. Yeah, it was Jim McClain

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 1>broke down my swing. Great guy. So I got up

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 1>on stage and I right away. I mean, I had

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:39.320
<v Speaker 1>a nine iron into like and I put one pretty

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 1>close to the pin and he kind of did a

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.320
<v Speaker 1>couple of tweaks. This is in front of a thousand people,

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and I hit one even closer. I mean, what a

0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:51.439
<v Speaker 1>great guy. And so I did that, and they gave

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 1>me a full swing golf simulator. I put in my

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:57.760
<v Speaker 1>garage and I played it for, you know, fifteen years,

0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 1>ten years on the golf simulator. Great, great times. Who

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 1>are your favorite golfers to watch? I mean, who do

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 1>you watch? And you say, okay, I'm rooting for him.

0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:09.720
<v Speaker 1>M I want this guy to win. You know. It's weird,

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 1>but there are two of your guys. I believe Brooks, Yeah, Brooks.

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I love Brooks. I've met him in l A. And

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I love Brooks. I love his attitude. And and the

0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 1>other one is Dustin Johnson and I know d J.

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 1>We met a long time ago through David David Winkler.

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:34.120
<v Speaker 1>You know David, David Winkle a great guy. And so

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:37.279
<v Speaker 1>we met and um, he met my dad, and my

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 1>dad hooked us up together, and uh we all had

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:43.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, we went out to Houston, had brigs and

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:46.799
<v Speaker 1>had a great time. But those two guys, I just

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I love both of them. I love Rory, Love Rory McElroy.

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's got my favorite golf swing of all time.

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:58.360
<v Speaker 1>If I could have a golf swing, I take Rory.

0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:02.280
<v Speaker 1>You know what is um, Kevin, what's the current handicap

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:05.279
<v Speaker 1>right now? Talk to me about your game? What's your handicap?

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I haven't even I haven't even been posting my game

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:12.719
<v Speaker 1>is I've been so out of the game for a

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:15.720
<v Speaker 1>while because work has been great. The beginning of COVID,

0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 1>like I said, it was terrible. The second half of COVID,

0:49:18.960 --> 0:49:22.080
<v Speaker 1>they ran out of stuff to watch, so they were like,

0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:24.440
<v Speaker 1>we gotta make movies, We gotta we gotta get some stuff,

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 1>some material out there. And I've been working NonStop. So

0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 1>my game, I've never played as little golf as I

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 1>have this last couple of years. A year and a

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 1>half or so, and I'd probably be like a fifteen

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm that bad. I mean, I'm terrible. I'm hitting him

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 1>off the hozzle right now. I mean it's bad. And

0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the rumor is you've got the shanks. Don't say that word.

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 1>You can't say yes word. I don't mind because I

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:56.560
<v Speaker 1>got him. I mean, I already got him. But and

0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:58.920
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you about it. It's something that comes

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 1>back with me a lot because I get him and

0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 1>they'll go away for a while, but they'll come up.

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 1>And I did this thing where with the Donald Trump

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:12.440
<v Speaker 1>golf thing with Mark Wahlberg. I had the shanks during

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:15.120
<v Speaker 1>that too, and it was bad dude, and on TV,

0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and it was like Mark asked me to do it.

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I said, I can't do it, Mark, I I I played. Yeah,

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I was at the range the other day. I had

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:25.799
<v Speaker 1>twelve of them. I had twelve shanks. He's like, no, no,

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:28.280
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it. We we will take control of it.

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:30.279
<v Speaker 1>It was. It was the rough. It was one of

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:34.359
<v Speaker 1>the worst moments ever to be what you say, you're

0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:37.239
<v Speaker 1>hitting checks you know, I was terrible. One are the

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:42.000
<v Speaker 1>strengths of your game if you're playing all I could

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 1>be If I'm playing playing well, I could be a

0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:47.880
<v Speaker 1>good driver. I could get it out pretty far. Uh,

0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and I could be pretty consistent. I'm decent chopper, decent chopper.

0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm usually bad putter, but I got this claw. I'm

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:02.280
<v Speaker 1>working than the Yeah, what's the lowest round you've shot?

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I shot a two wonder that Camario Springs I had.

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I had six birdies four of minute row and uh,

0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:18.799
<v Speaker 1>I still have four bogies. But yeah, to tow other,

0:51:18.960 --> 0:51:21.759
<v Speaker 1>but I've shot even part a couple of It's for me.

0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 1>L A is easy. You could go out there and

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:27.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, I'm playing public courses in l A.

0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:29.160
<v Speaker 1>It's not waying foot so I'm not I don't have

0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 1>to you know, hit a flop shot up on the green.

0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I can I can see the pin right there. I

0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:36.759
<v Speaker 1>could get up and down. But yeah, I mean, uh yeah,

0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:42.000
<v Speaker 1>my my, my rounds in l A have gotten pretty low. Um. Lastly,

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Kevin talked to me about what's what's the upcoming projects,

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the things that you're really really exciting about. Where are

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>we going to be seeing you and uh, what what

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 1>do you have in the pipeline? Well, I got uh,

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I got I gotta still got a bunch of things

0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:58.840
<v Speaker 1>going on. Like I said, I have the the Pilot,

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:04.440
<v Speaker 1>which I think will go with Charlie Sheen and Kevin Connolly.

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 1>That's called uh ramble On. So I got that. I

0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:13.520
<v Speaker 1>got a Reagan movie with Dennis Quaid. Dennis quite plays

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Ronald Reagan. I play Jack Warner from Warner Brothers. That's

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna be really cool. And I just got a text

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:23.040
<v Speaker 1>from the producer today he said, just looking really good

0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 1>that movie. Uh. It takes a lot of time because

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:29.399
<v Speaker 1>there they have to age them down and then aide

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 1>them up. So Dennis was right in the middle for

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 1>both and they I don't know if they're aging me

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:36.840
<v Speaker 1>or not or or I don't think they're messing with

0:52:36.880 --> 0:52:40.200
<v Speaker 1>me too much. But uh. And then I got, uh

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:44.919
<v Speaker 1>the Buddy Games, Buddy Games to the sequel. It's gonna

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 1>be great. It's hilarious. Well, we've got to get together.

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:52.240
<v Speaker 1>I can help you with your golf whenever, and uh,

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:54.719
<v Speaker 1>we'll get together. And um if I get to l

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:56.399
<v Speaker 1>a UM, I'm gonna take you up on the offer

0:52:56.440 --> 0:53:00.440
<v Speaker 1>to be on on the podcast. I just joined, uh

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:02.399
<v Speaker 1>a golf course called Sati Koi, which is a really

0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:04.920
<v Speaker 1>nice golf course too, So maybe you could get out

0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:06.480
<v Speaker 1>there and tee it up. But I love to have

0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you on Victory the podcast and thank you for having

0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:12.759
<v Speaker 1>me as a guest. I've had a great time. And

0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:15.479
<v Speaker 1>you you now have something in common with my father.

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:17.880
<v Speaker 1>My my father grew up at Wingfoot. I don't know

0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 1>if you know, but they were just the brothers were

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:23.360
<v Speaker 1>just up there um for the Anderson and unbeknownst to

0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:27.239
<v Speaker 1>my dad, they made them honorary members. And they did

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:30.760
<v Speaker 1>this while my dad and his brothers were speaking, and um,

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:33.439
<v Speaker 1>they said. My dad was crying. And he immediately sent

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 1>me a picture of his little um honorary member plaque.

0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:40.000
<v Speaker 1>And he's so excited about it. So I'll let him

0:53:40.000 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 1>know that. And um, you know, he was a big

0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:46.359
<v Speaker 1>fan of the show. And man, thank you so much.

0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 1>It's uh. I've done a lot of cool things, but

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:51.880
<v Speaker 1>to get an opportunity to to to speak to you

0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:54.160
<v Speaker 1>as uh, it's a huge, huge thing for me and

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:56.560
<v Speaker 1>great talking to you. Man, it's great talking to you.

0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I love what you do and and I love golf

0:53:58.520 --> 0:54:01.959
<v Speaker 1>and all your guys keep killing it. Man. We gotta

0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 1>get you out to come out to some tour events. Oh,

0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:06.839
<v Speaker 1>I would love to. I would love to. Let's do it.

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Kevin. Thank you. So that was Kevin Dillon and UM,

0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's it's almost like he is Johnny Drama

0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the character. But um, what a cool guy to talk

0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:24.160
<v Speaker 1>to and you know, certainly one of the highlights of

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 1>my life getting chance to talk to him talk about Entourage. Um,

0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:32.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a show that uh was huge for me. I

0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:35.200
<v Speaker 1>lived in l A and Uh, I'll be honest. I

0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:37.319
<v Speaker 1>got back and watch it. I'm sure everybody else does too.

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:41.680
<v Speaker 1>So really really glad to have Kevin on and UM,

0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:44.720
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get him. We're gonna work on his golf swing.

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't have him having the shanks. So PJ Tour

0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 1>started last week unfortunate finish for Danny Willett, but what

0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:57.560
<v Speaker 1>an amazing chip in Maxima who wins again. And then

0:54:57.680 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 1>on the live Cam Smith and DJ duking it out

0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:09.640
<v Speaker 1>down the stretch and Cam Smith wins and listen, golf

0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:12.919
<v Speaker 1>is golf, whether it's on the PGA Tour, whether it's

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 1>on the Live Tour. Um, there are players playing golf.

0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:18.799
<v Speaker 1>I was at the Live Tour last week with DJ.

0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:23.360
<v Speaker 1>UM I watched Camp Smith play. Um, he's doing the

0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:25.440
<v Speaker 1>same thing on live that he was doing on the

0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:30.600
<v Speaker 1>PGA Tour, which is playing unbelievable golf. This guy's putting

0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:34.520
<v Speaker 1>in short game is about as good as anything that

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:39.400
<v Speaker 1>you can find right now anywhere in the world. And UM,

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:42.920
<v Speaker 1>if there was a major next week, our major this week,

0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I think you'd see camp Smith in contention. I think

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:47.839
<v Speaker 1>you'd see Dustin Johnson in contention. I think you'd see

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Roy McElroy in contention. UM. I think you'd see the

0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:56.120
<v Speaker 1>best players in the world get into contention in big tournaments.

0:55:56.239 --> 0:55:58.640
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think that's to me, that's what's

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:01.360
<v Speaker 1>being overlooked by this whole you know, live versus the

0:56:01.400 --> 0:56:04.360
<v Speaker 1>PGA Tour thing. Um. At the end of the day,

0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it's golf, and whether you're watching the PGA Tour, you're

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:11.200
<v Speaker 1>watching live, you're going to see great players hitting great

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:13.879
<v Speaker 1>shots and playing great golf. And I think that's what

0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:18.400
<v Speaker 1>we all want. A huge week this week the President's Cup. UM,

0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest. I mean, I think there are some

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:24.320
<v Speaker 1>guys um that should be there, both on the American

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:27.760
<v Speaker 1>team and the international team, UM, that are not allowed

0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to be there. UM. I thought that, UM. Matt Fitzpatrick,

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the reigning US Open champion, who played on the last

0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Ryder Cup team for Europe. UM. I thought his comments

0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:41.919
<v Speaker 1>about the Ryder Cup. Um, we're pretty interesting. He said,

0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I just want to win the Ryder Cup. So in

0:56:43.480 --> 0:56:45.840
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, I want to be a part of the

0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:49.759
<v Speaker 1>team myself, but I want the eleven best guys we

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:53.719
<v Speaker 1>can get on the team. And UM, I think the

0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:59.000
<v Speaker 1>team competitions should be the best players. And UM, I

0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:00.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know if this President's Up team will have a

0:57:00.640 --> 0:57:05.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit of an astric Um. I feel unbelievably sorry

0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:09.680
<v Speaker 1>for Trevor Immelman. Um, he's a friend. We had him

0:57:09.680 --> 0:57:11.400
<v Speaker 1>on the podcast and try and get him on the

0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:16.160
<v Speaker 1>podcast after. Um the President's Cup because listen, it's hard

0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:20.080
<v Speaker 1>for their international team. They've never beaten the American team

0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and and they want to have their best players, and

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 1>um they don't. Uh they they're not allowed to pick them.

0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:28.440
<v Speaker 1>And the U S side is is missing some of

0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:32.120
<v Speaker 1>their best players as well. So, UM, they should be

0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:34.760
<v Speaker 1>playing and I think the best teams should be there.

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people will disagree, but that's

0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:40.680
<v Speaker 1>my opinion and it's my damn podcast, so UM, I'm

0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:43.880
<v Speaker 1>putting it out there. Uh so, but excited. Um, the

0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:47.640
<v Speaker 1>team competition always good. Um, the international team kind of

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 1>banded together down in Melbourne last time and you know

0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 1>got it pretty close. Took a pretty big rally from

0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the U S team to get that win. Can Trevor

0:57:56.960 --> 0:58:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Immilman rally? Uh, the troops that he has on that team,

0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:05.320
<v Speaker 1>can they make a run? Um? But team competition, it's

0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:08.240
<v Speaker 1>always great and U it's always great to see how

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:11.840
<v Speaker 1>these matchups match up on the golf course. So I'm

0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 1>excited to watch it, and I know everybody else is too.

0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to thank everybody for listening. We've got some

0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:20.880
<v Speaker 1>great podcasts. Um if you haven't gone back and checked

0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:23.640
<v Speaker 1>out past episodes, there are a lot of good ones

0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:26.160
<v Speaker 1>out there, so please check them out. I want to

0:58:26.160 --> 0:58:29.360
<v Speaker 1>thank everyone for listening. And Son of a Book comes

0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:31.840
<v Speaker 1>to you every Wednesday. We will see you next week.