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Speaker 1: Kevin Dillon a k a. Johnny Drama from Entourage. UM.
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Speaker 1: get to the interview with Kevin Dillon. All right, my
Speaker 1: guest today is Kevin Dillon. Kevin. When I say I'm
Speaker 1: a fan, I am a huge fan, and I might.
Speaker 1: My wife watches when I quote movies and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: She says, how do you have this photographic memory? I
Speaker 1: watch Entourage and I and I can quote it like
Speaker 1: every episode. So it's it's huge to do this. But
Speaker 1: Heaven help us. You started that in the early eighties.
Speaker 1: Um four bro, my screws a loose brother, my crew
Speaker 1: brother brother Daddy. Yeah, yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy.
Speaker 1: I actually, uh, when I got beat by the priest.
Speaker 1: He actually the actor was my first real movie, so
Speaker 1: I actually I got my head bashed against the black boy.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, brother, Yeah, I'm sorry brother. He actually hit
Speaker 1: my head on the blackboard so many times that the
Speaker 1: next day they were like, we were really sorry because
Speaker 1: I came in with I was like, I got a headache,
Speaker 1: I got bumps in my head. They gave me. It
Speaker 1: was my first they called a stunt adjustment, which means
Speaker 1: they gave me like five bills and back then five
Speaker 1: all bills. To me, it was a big deal. So
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, five hunch baby for a couple
Speaker 1: of bumps on the head. I'll take it. Um. When
Speaker 1: you look back at that time in your life, Kevin,
Speaker 1: I mean, but the career that you've had, and I
Speaker 1: mean it started with something like that. When you're on
Speaker 1: a movie set and you're trying to be an actor
Speaker 1: and you're that young, do you have any idea what
Speaker 1: you're doing. I mean, it's got to be all completely
Speaker 1: new to you at that stage of your life. To
Speaker 1: be on a big movie set with other actors and
Speaker 1: you're you've got to do all this. It must have
Speaker 1: been crazy. I mean, how old were you when you
Speaker 1: filmed that movie? I was like seventeen, man, I didn't
Speaker 1: know what the hell. I was done. I really did
Speaker 1: I did do. I did a couple of school plays
Speaker 1: right here in Memarnick at the Emlyn Theater. It was
Speaker 1: one school play, but I did three nights at the
Speaker 1: Emlyn Theater. I played Petruchio in The Taming and the
Speaker 1: Shrew and that kind of gave me the bug. I
Speaker 1: was like, I love the reaction I got from the audience.
Speaker 1: And that was the first and last time I've done stage.
Speaker 1: I want to do it again sometime, but that was it. Man.
Speaker 1: As soon as I heard the laughter and the applause,
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to do this. When you
Speaker 1: were storing in your first movie. Your brother matt Um
Speaker 1: who I mean growing up, I mean I watched all
Speaker 1: of his movies, right, I mean, he was that that
Speaker 1: was he was like a like a supertar Teenbeat magazine.
Speaker 1: He was on the cover of teen Beat. He hated
Speaker 1: being on teen Beating, Tiger Bag and all those. Uh.
Speaker 1: I was on a couple of those two, you know,
Speaker 1: but you know they to be honest with you, you know,
Speaker 1: for him, it was super embarrassing. He wanted to get
Speaker 1: out of he wanted to be taken seriously. I was
Speaker 1: happy to be like uh, get one page in there somewhere.
Speaker 1: But did you feel at any point competition with your brother,
Speaker 1: because I mean he's he's acting, you're acting. Um what
Speaker 1: was that like that that kind of that brother relationship
Speaker 1: when you're both trying to do the same thing. You know,
Speaker 1: there was no competition because he was already I mean,
Speaker 1: Matt was a huge star when I was trying to
Speaker 1: work my way up and I was lucky to be working,
Speaker 1: and uh, I was happy to be working. But I
Speaker 1: never really really caught up to him, and I still haven't.
Speaker 1: I'd say I've definitely gotten I've gotten closer with entourage,
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Hey, he was in you know,
Speaker 1: some cool stuff. But I mean you were in platoon
Speaker 1: when you're you know, in your late teens, no doubt. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have been probably nineteen or twenty. And it
Speaker 1: was pretty cool with with Charlie Sheen, who I just
Speaker 1: did a pilot with by the way, really yeah, me
Speaker 1: and Charlie did a pilot and who knows, maybe it'll
Speaker 1: get picked up. It's called Ramblan. It's a really really
Speaker 1: cool pilot. We'll see what happens. But he's by buddy.
Speaker 1: It's kind of cool work with him that many years later,
Speaker 1: Such a great guy when you went um and shocked.
Speaker 1: I can still remember my dad fought in Vietnam. I
Speaker 1: still remember going to see Tune with my dad. He
Speaker 1: was busy. He never talked about Vietnam as as as
Speaker 1: an experience. He couldn't talk about it. And that movie,
Speaker 1: I think for him was a really kind of changing
Speaker 1: experience for him because he saw a lot of the
Speaker 1: things that he went through. Um, did you all on
Speaker 1: that set have an idea that that was going to
Speaker 1: be such a big film? You know what? I didn't? I? Uh.
Speaker 1: Oliver Stone was cool and he let us all sit.
Speaker 1: He invited us to the premiere after we got cast,
Speaker 1: to the premiere of a movie he did called Salvador,
Speaker 1: and we all went and we checked it out. We're like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is a really really good movie and this script
Speaker 1: Platoon is great. I think we got a really a
Speaker 1: good chance at being a good movie. Did we know
Speaker 1: it was going to be like this legendary movie and
Speaker 1: when all those awards? I didn't know that, but uh,
Speaker 1: I do remember Tom Barranger said, Hey, guys, breathe it in,
Speaker 1: take this in. You're never gonna get a moment like this.
Speaker 1: This is as good as it gets. We're in the Philippines,
Speaker 1: were dying, there's mosquitoes and it was disgusting. But I
Speaker 1: mean he he knew that we were onto something special
Speaker 1: and it really was. And we had a great time
Speaker 1: and uh and the movie was huge. We saw it
Speaker 1: at this he had a we had a premiere at
Speaker 1: the Zigfeld Theater and I remember right after the movie ended,
Speaker 1: the place went silent. Usually there would be applause, but
Speaker 1: everyone was like stunned by the movie. And then it
Speaker 1: just and I was like, oh no, they hated the movie,
Speaker 1: but then both they erupped it with it. It was
Speaker 1: like unbelievable people and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: they loved this movie. I mean it was really Uh,
Speaker 1: it was pretty cool. I didn't know what we had,
Speaker 1: and um, I don't think anyone really did, except for
Speaker 1: Tom Beranger. I think if you look at all the
Speaker 1: people that were in Platoon, they were a lot of
Speaker 1: them were like yourselves. They were starting out and they've
Speaker 1: gone on to have unbelievable careers and become worldwide phenomenons
Speaker 1: as actors. Yeah, I mean some of these guys, I
Speaker 1: mean I I talked to Keith David recently. I tried
Speaker 1: to get him because I I did a movie called
Speaker 1: Buddy Games too. We did a sequel to the first
Speaker 1: Buddy Games. It's gonna be hilarious, but I wanted Keith
Speaker 1: David in there, so I called them off and I
Speaker 1: was like, Keith, you gotta do it, and he couldn't
Speaker 1: do because he already had a couple of things set up.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I mean, all these guys, it's crazy
Speaker 1: how much we've all stayed in contact. John C McGinley,
Speaker 1: Johnny c who's Captain O'Neill, he's in the movie that
Speaker 1: I did in the in the pilot I did with
Speaker 1: Charlie as well. So that one's gonna be cool because
Speaker 1: it's it's got a little bit of Entourage. We've got
Speaker 1: Kevin Connolly's in it and some of my Platoon guys,
Speaker 1: and it's directed and written by Doug Allen, who created Entourage.
Speaker 1: So we'll we'll see what happens to the pilot. If
Speaker 1: I was a betting man, i'd say, yeah, it goes,
Speaker 1: but you know a lot of pilots don't go, so
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. I don't think people realize, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm in the golf world. You're an actor,
Speaker 1: you love golf. But I don't think people realize how
Speaker 1: hard it is to actually be an actor and say
Speaker 1: that's what you want to try and do and then
Speaker 1: actually make it. I think Entourage did an amazing job
Speaker 1: at at showing people that whole process of the kind
Speaker 1: of up and down. And I always say, I lived
Speaker 1: in l A for almost three years. It's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite places I lived in Hollywood. I lived up
Speaker 1: in the Hollywood Hills, and I'm so glad that I
Speaker 1: lived in l A. Because when I watch Entourage and
Speaker 1: people go, oh, you know, I'm like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's it's it's really like that. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: you you guys did an unbelievable job and encapsulating kind
Speaker 1: of that Hollywood, but not in kind of the way
Speaker 1: that it was in like you know, Tim Robbin in
Speaker 1: the Player where you couldn't figure that out right, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just too you know, that Warren Beatty era of
Speaker 1: what Hollywood was supposed to be like. But I think
Speaker 1: Nto Roge encapsulated what kind of being young and trying
Speaker 1: to make it in Hollywood is Um, you have to
Speaker 1: have an enormous amount of fixed skin. I mean your
Speaker 1: character Johnny Drama, which to me is one of the
Speaker 1: greatest television you know, rules of all time. But that
Speaker 1: type of thing where you're the butt of a lot
Speaker 1: of jokes, but you're basically that character is trying to
Speaker 1: do what you did, just trying to make it get
Speaker 1: any part. And he did it. He did it too,
Speaker 1: by the way, because in the movie he won to
Speaker 1: a Golden Globe, which I've been nominated. I didn't win,
Speaker 1: So Johnny Dramas actually surpassed me. But but I love
Speaker 1: the character, and it's the great thing about that shows
Speaker 1: it showed both sides of it. Not everyone's going to
Speaker 1: be Vince, you know. Um Mark Wahlberg, who this the
Speaker 1: whole show is kind of based upon. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: been blessed. Everything he touches seems to work out great
Speaker 1: and uh but and it's been been really good for
Speaker 1: his brother too. Donnie's done really well. And the Drama
Speaker 1: character wasn't really based on Donnie. Donnie has done he
Speaker 1: Donnie's killed it himself. It's more based around Uh, he
Speaker 1: calls him his cousin. This guy Johnny Alves and but
Speaker 1: I love I've had so many actors come up to me.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm carrying the flag for all actors
Speaker 1: who have been struggling and fighting and trying to get
Speaker 1: it done and who have been like disrespected in auditions.
Speaker 1: And they're like, I love that audition, Seed, when when
Speaker 1: you were in there, you stood up against you know,
Speaker 1: when they he was on his cell phone, he should
Speaker 1: have been listening to you. You know. I love all
Speaker 1: those scenes are great. Um, it was really great writing,
Speaker 1: and uh, I love the cast. The other guys were great.
Speaker 1: But it really does show you what Hollywood is like,
Speaker 1: was like and will always probably be like I mean
Speaker 1: with the army stuff and you got the agents, the managers,
Speaker 1: the lawyers and you know, business managers, all these aspects
Speaker 1: of this show. We're all great. Uh. How much, Kevin,
Speaker 1: do you feel like Hollywood is hard work honing your
Speaker 1: craft and how much of it is chance? Dumblock that
Speaker 1: that the stars aligned and you get a break and
Speaker 1: something happened. Cause I think everybody like sports thinks and
Speaker 1: I have a lot of young golfers who come to
Speaker 1: me all the time. The dad says, you'll never meet
Speaker 1: anyone that will work harder than my son or my daughter.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's kind of a prerequisite. You don't
Speaker 1: make it work hard if you want to be on
Speaker 1: the PGA tour. Yeah, I mean, I think it's a
Speaker 1: little bit of both. In Hollywood, though, you have to
Speaker 1: kind of I was a little lucky to have my
Speaker 1: brother Matt, who's already a big, big names, so that
Speaker 1: kind of helped me out. But now there's you know,
Speaker 1: I got like thirty five years in the business, So
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not gonna make it past the first
Speaker 1: five if you're not good and if you don't work hard.
Speaker 1: So it's a little it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 1: In Hollywood. You have to have a certain look for
Speaker 1: the right I mean sometimes I can't tell you how
Speaker 1: many times they said, oh, they like you, but they
Speaker 1: were gonna go in a different direction, you know. And
Speaker 1: then obviously if your calfs aren't right for the role,
Speaker 1: and of course one of the great, one of the great,
Speaker 1: now you made me do it. Here we go, Here
Speaker 1: we go. Look Look look at that implant. Huh look
Speaker 1: at that thing? Wait, wiggles around. That's a real deal
Speaker 1: right there. That's that's that's no implant bro how much um.
Speaker 1: Right after the US opened the Tiger One in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, I was working I was living in
Speaker 1: l A. And my dad was working with Phil Nicholson
Speaker 1: at the time, and they shot the episode at Trump
Speaker 1: National where Phil was in the episode. It was like
Speaker 1: the Monday Tuesday after. I remember all the guys were
Speaker 1: there and stuff. Um, golf has played. I think a
Speaker 1: huge part of Entourage. I mean, it's amazing to me
Speaker 1: was that your guy's input that we're the golfers, was
Speaker 1: that Doug was that the writers was at Mark whose
Speaker 1: idea was to put so much golf content in Entourage. Well, well,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, that was me that made
Speaker 1: that happen because I met Phil. I was I was
Speaker 1: a Jerry Ferrara. We were we were playing at San Diego,
Speaker 1: I think we were at the Bridge's Great Golf Course
Speaker 1: and uh, we just finished up around and we were
Speaker 1: going in to have lunch and Phil Michelson walked right
Speaker 1: by and he did the cap thing, you know, like
Speaker 1: like you know, the little cap tip. But but he
Speaker 1: he didn't more like to cover himself up, like I
Speaker 1: don't want to be recognized right now. He's walking out
Speaker 1: to his trunk, and I was like, I can't let
Speaker 1: this go. I gotta say what's up to Phil? And
Speaker 1: I went in with my dad because my dad was
Speaker 1: a portrait is you know, he passed just a year ago,
Speaker 1: but he's a great portrait painter. He painted all the greats,
Speaker 1: you know Jack and Arnie and you know Gary Player
Speaker 1: and Phil. And so I went up and I said, hey, Phil,
Speaker 1: Kevin Dill, I just have to say hi, because he
Speaker 1: was really trying to get away. He didn't wuld not
Speaker 1: want to be right. And he went, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you got a drop. So he loved he loved the show.
Speaker 1: So that was cool. And I said, you know my
Speaker 1: dad and he goes, yeah, yeah, And he told this
Speaker 1: great story about how when he my dad took a
Speaker 1: picture a Phil to paint him. But when he and
Speaker 1: Phil post for the for the picture and he was like, uh,
Speaker 1: my dad was like, do you want a golf club?
Speaker 1: You want to hold the golf club? He's like yeah,
Speaker 1: and they so they just grabbed any old golf club
Speaker 1: and he was a right handed golf club and he
Speaker 1: took it and he painted the right handed golf club.
Speaker 1: And then later when my dad presented the painting to fill.
Speaker 1: My dad went, oh my god, I give you a
Speaker 1: painted you with the right handed golf club. Give it
Speaker 1: to me. I'll fix it. I'm gonna change it to
Speaker 1: a left handed club. He goes, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I like it. Phil said, I like it just the
Speaker 1: way it is. I love the story behind it. Keep
Speaker 1: it right handed. I love it. And Phil told me
Speaker 1: that story. My dad had forgotten about that, and so
Speaker 1: we sat down. He's like, come join us for lunch.
Speaker 1: We and we sat and we talked, and I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that the episode that was on the way didn't
Speaker 1: air yet, was just the one where are He says,
Speaker 1: he's collapsing like Phil at Wingfoot? So I mean, there
Speaker 1: is that big and I forgot that that didn't there
Speaker 1: and that was on its way out. But I said, Phil,
Speaker 1: we I would love to have you got to do
Speaker 1: the show? Will you do Entourage? He goes, hell, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll definitely do Entourage. I called Dog Allen right away.
Speaker 1: I said, Dog, I got Phil Nicholson. When you right
Speaker 1: him into the show. He goes, yeah, put them on.
Speaker 1: I put the two of Mom and the rest of
Speaker 1: this history. But when he saw that episode, he went
Speaker 1: to dog, he went like so collapsing like Philip Wingfoot. Uh,
Speaker 1: And of course Doug was like, yeah, sorry about that.
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't know what we're gonna get you
Speaker 1: as a guest spot, but when you know, we love you.
Speaker 1: And he was a really great guest. He signed every autograph,
Speaker 1: took photos of the all crew. He was the best.
Speaker 1: I love Phil And then the episode where you take
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's club, you hit the bat shot, you break it.
Speaker 1: I mean, did you think that you would be the
Speaker 1: butt of a couple of years ago when Bryson's at
Speaker 1: the British Open, he's talking about how he doesn't like
Speaker 1: you were the meme that everybody was coming up with.
Speaker 1: They were putting Bryson's face on you beating the club up.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing how you could have never envisioned
Speaker 1: that that could happen. That was hilarious. And I love Bryson.
Speaker 1: I love what you know. What he did here at
Speaker 1: Wingfoot was amazing. I mean this place, so Bryson's great,
Speaker 1: he's a great champion for wing Foot, but they also
Speaker 1: had uh Brooks was in there too, and I got
Speaker 1: to be Brooks and so I mean both of those
Speaker 1: guys I love. But it's so funny how that carries
Speaker 1: on the you know. Um. It was one episode of many,
Speaker 1: but it was fun. And the crazy thing about we
Speaker 1: tried to break that club so many times and they
Speaker 1: prop guys kept scoring the club and they wanted me
Speaker 1: to break it over my knee and it just looked
Speaker 1: like crap. It was like it would break like a pencil.
Speaker 1: And I was like, guys, this club would not break
Speaker 1: like this. This looks terrible, and they all agreed. I said,
Speaker 1: just let me break this. Back the camera up so
Speaker 1: you could see the whole my whole body, and I'll
Speaker 1: break this club properly. I know how to break a club,
Speaker 1: let me tell you. So I took it. I slam
Speaker 1: it on the ground and I stepped on it and
Speaker 1: it came out like that you shape, which was perfect,
Speaker 1: and I held it up and and then there is
Speaker 1: turtle go. You broke Tom Brady's club at you asshole.
Speaker 1: It was It was great. I mean, it was an
Speaker 1: episode that was that was so fun that the plus fours,
Speaker 1: I was wearing the hat, I looked like Payne Steward.
Speaker 1: It was just it was awesome. I love golf and
Speaker 1: I got all the guys into golf. Who who's the best? Yeah,
Speaker 1: on the cast of On, I'm the best. But I'm
Speaker 1: terrible right now. I mean I'm really I'm struggling. I
Speaker 1: didn't get to play all summer. So I actually, uh
Speaker 1: tried to get an emergency lesson yesterday and I couldn't
Speaker 1: get one because our pro was ill. And but I
Speaker 1: need a little work right now. But when I'm hitting
Speaker 1: the ball, well, I got down to a seven and
Speaker 1: uh but right now, Jerry Fer was hitting the ball
Speaker 1: really well. Kevin Connolly just joined the golf club and
Speaker 1: he's starting to strike the ball. Everyone's into it, and
Speaker 1: I feel, you know, I got a little pride, So
Speaker 1: you know that the fact that I enter u's these
Speaker 1: guys to the game in a lot of ways. And uh,
Speaker 1: it's great. So golf is a big part of it
Speaker 1: and a big part of who we are. It was
Speaker 1: a big part of the show. And Doug Ellen loves
Speaker 1: golf too, so the creator of Entourage. Uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: just golf is me. I just love this place. I
Speaker 1: love foot I love everything about it. Let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we are back my dad. Um, they
Speaker 1: used my dad's name. In an episode to where um,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Piven Ari's in in his in his office and
Speaker 1: he says the Lloyd. He's like, Lloyd, if I don't
Speaker 1: I think it was like, if I don't win the
Speaker 1: club championship, I'm gonna sue, butch Harmon's ask. So that's
Speaker 1: my claim to fame that my dad actually is entreage.
Speaker 1: I called my dad when I saw the episode. I said, hey, Dad,
Speaker 1: you know you're an entrepage. What the hell's entourage? And
Speaker 1: then and then he saw it and he was, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that show. And I'm like, yeah, sure, you
Speaker 1: like the show. That's great. Like the show because I
Speaker 1: used your name, you know. Uh, of course your dad
Speaker 1: was a legend around here. I've heard your dad. My
Speaker 1: dad talked about your dad many times, and I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not your dad, but your your grandfather, and um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's it's a it's a He was a
Speaker 1: real big part of this place right here at Wingfoot.
Speaker 1: Pretty cool. It's pretty cool being in the locker room
Speaker 1: right here. We're in the Crow's nest, so normally you're
Speaker 1: not allowed to have a cell phone anywhere near this place,
Speaker 1: so it's nice to be you know, communicating like this
Speaker 1: at Wingfoot. You know, my dad went to um Iona Prep.
Speaker 1: No way, no way. My dad also went to Iona
Speaker 1: not Prep, but he went to Iona Iona College. I
Speaker 1: read that the high school you went to Mamaroneck. Um
Speaker 1: your brother went there? Um Michael O'Keeffe who was in
Speaker 1: Caddy Shock. Yes, yes, Gabriel Russell I mean and his member,
Speaker 1: his brother is a member here. Who would have thought
Speaker 1: all of those people who went to that high school
Speaker 1: would have gone on to have real legit careers in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah. You know Westchester County,
Speaker 1: they they breed some some good athletes, some good actors
Speaker 1: out here. Did you play um junior golf, high school
Speaker 1: golf growing up? Or I didn't? You know what I'm from.
Speaker 1: I'm one of six five boys. My dad loved golf
Speaker 1: and tried to get us into it, and we were like.
Speaker 1: It starts with my older brother Paul. I'm gonna blame
Speaker 1: him because he was like, where golf is for whimps,
Speaker 1: We don't play golf, you know. He played baseball, basketball, football,
Speaker 1: That was his attitude. And now we all play golf,
Speaker 1: and we all wish we started when my dad said, hey,
Speaker 1: come with me to the range. You know, but we didn't.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't start until my late twenties. That's
Speaker 1: why my swing does not hold up. You know, I
Speaker 1: need a little help. I gotta come pay you visit.
Speaker 1: We we we can definitely help you with the golf
Speaker 1: side of things. That would be good. I think most
Speaker 1: people that are going to be listening to this will
Speaker 1: be very surprised, um, that golf has been such a
Speaker 1: huge part of your life and a huge part of
Speaker 1: your family. I mean, your your father, you said he
Speaker 1: was the golfer. Did you look up to him and think, Okay,
Speaker 1: one day, when I'm older, maybe I'll get into this,
Speaker 1: like you said, because you and I are kind of
Speaker 1: relatively you know, of that same generation. I never played
Speaker 1: a lot of golf growing up because when I was
Speaker 1: growing up, golf wasn't cool. It was old men out
Speaker 1: of shape and funny clothes. You know, there was no
Speaker 1: tiger Woods, there was no you know, it wasn't any
Speaker 1: of that. And now and now, um, you know, golf
Speaker 1: is cool. Yeah, you know what it wasn't. Well, once
Speaker 1: I got into it. My younger brothers started before me,
Speaker 1: and they he was a member at Wykey Gel Nourish
Speaker 1: Oh and Uh. We used to just go there for
Speaker 1: the pool. So it was like, you know, we could
Speaker 1: go to the pool, we get some of those drink
Speaker 1: tickets and he eat some hotdogs and beers and jump
Speaker 1: in the pool. And then my younger brothers started playing.
Speaker 1: I guess my dad got to him. He talked one
Speaker 1: of the men to play into the father's son, and
Speaker 1: then I started kind of you know, I mean, I
Speaker 1: started playing a little bit, and then I got roped
Speaker 1: into the father's son and they called that apology golf,
Speaker 1: where you're not allowed to I kept hitting it into
Speaker 1: the woods and I was sorry. Dad. He's like, don't
Speaker 1: apologize it. But we had I had a great time.
Speaker 1: And that's when it kind of happened. I was maybe
Speaker 1: twenty eight. I wish I started younger and uh. And
Speaker 1: then I have two daughters and I can't get it
Speaker 1: either or ment to golf. My youngest daughter's got a
Speaker 1: great golf swing, but it's like I gotta twist arm
Speaker 1: to get her to play. It's the best sport in
Speaker 1: the world. You just sometimes when you're young, you gotta
Speaker 1: be pushed a little bit. I think you know you
Speaker 1: mentioned my grandfather who was the longtime head pro at Wingfoot.
Speaker 1: He's kind of synonymous with that, but not a lot
Speaker 1: of people know this. Um, they were, my dad said
Speaker 1: when they were younger, my grandfather, they were members at
Speaker 1: why Kagill. So my dad played in no more round.
Speaker 1: He played more rounds at why Kagill probably than he
Speaker 1: did at Wingfoot. Great story, Um, I want to say,
Speaker 1: is that the last hole that's a par five where
Speaker 1: you've got to hit it over water? My dad said,
Speaker 1: because my dad was, you know, pretty rebellious. He said
Speaker 1: they'd be in the middle of the fairway, it'd be
Speaker 1: down wind, and he said he just pull out three
Speaker 1: wood and he and his brothers, his brother's you know,
Speaker 1: my uncle Dick, my uncle Craig, Mouncle Billy would go no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you's got too much club. My dad said, he just
Speaker 1: he take the three would out and just hammer it
Speaker 1: because he wanted to hit the clubhouse and he'd be
Speaker 1: banging it off the clubhouse like tin cup until I
Speaker 1: get it over. East Coast is a big part of
Speaker 1: the Entourage story. Um, did you guys did was that
Speaker 1: from Mark? Was that from Doug? Did you and I'm
Speaker 1: always interested on a show like Entourage, which is so
Speaker 1: which is so iconic, how much input as an actor
Speaker 1: were you able to put into the show and your
Speaker 1: character or was it listen, you know, this is script,
Speaker 1: you do this, you know. It was a little bit
Speaker 1: of both. The script was the script. But as the
Speaker 1: show started taking off, if I had an idea, I would,
Speaker 1: you know. That's why I felt me and Doug Ellen
Speaker 1: are really great friends. If I have an idea about something,
Speaker 1: I could throw it to him. He might write it. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, every one of these scripts kind of came
Speaker 1: through all of us, like anyone could have said, told
Speaker 1: Doug a story about what happened in Hollywood or what
Speaker 1: happened on a golf course and all these kind of
Speaker 1: crazy things. But yeah, it was it was a little
Speaker 1: bit of both. And if I wanted to change something,
Speaker 1: I would have to pretty much have to do it
Speaker 1: in advance, don't do it on the set. He I'd
Speaker 1: have to call dog, it's a Doug, I'd like to
Speaker 1: change that to this if that's okay. And as long
Speaker 1: as I did that, he'd be that most of the time,
Speaker 1: he'd be like a So I would uh, I'd be
Speaker 1: able to change, but he didn't really like you just
Speaker 1: going off on your own. He put a lot of
Speaker 1: thought into his words. He wanted to he wanted him
Speaker 1: said kind of the way he wrote them. That was
Speaker 1: my other question. I mean, as an actor, are there
Speaker 1: directors and people that you do movies with, but say, listen,
Speaker 1: why don't you try and bring your own ideas? And
Speaker 1: you kind of have that license to ad lib on
Speaker 1: the fly while the cameras are rolling, And then I'm
Speaker 1: sure they're directors are like, do it this way I
Speaker 1: wrote it. It's my baby, this is the way I wanted. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean one thing was Doug wrote great dialogue, so
Speaker 1: I mean the tweaks were very small, if I had any.
Speaker 1: But the last movie I just did wash It's It's
Speaker 1: it's great, but it's a different kind of thing. It's
Speaker 1: more of an improv and um it was Buddy Games.
Speaker 1: There was a Buddy Games one and it did really well,
Speaker 1: and then we just shot at the sequel Buddy Games too,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be hilarious and it's all kind of
Speaker 1: like we're figuring it out as we go, and it
Speaker 1: was so fun to do. It really is a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. You know, you hear a lot about actors. Um.
Speaker 1: One of the things I think it's really interesting about
Speaker 1: Entourage is um Vince's character and Ari's character. There's that
Speaker 1: scene where she he's trying to get Vince a job
Speaker 1: and somebody in the in the meeting talks about a
Speaker 1: television job. And you know, this idea that Vince was
Speaker 1: a movie star not a television store. Do you find
Speaker 1: it interesting now that that line has been so blurred
Speaker 1: because now Netflix, Hulu, it seems like a lot of
Speaker 1: the things that are great on TV, not basically old
Speaker 1: school kind of movie star stuff. A lot of the
Speaker 1: great work is on TV now. Yeah. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: there's there's no long or a movie actor and a
Speaker 1: TV actor. Now you could do you could do both
Speaker 1: pretty much. But that was that was the way it
Speaker 1: was growing up. I did all movies, and then once
Speaker 1: I broke into TV, it was like I couldn't get
Speaker 1: a movie job because I was a TV actor. Now,
Speaker 1: so I was doing TV. Thank God, that's different now
Speaker 1: and I could work both sides of you know, doing both.
Speaker 1: But still you'll see guys like, you know, Leo DiCaprio
Speaker 1: is not doing any TV shows. He's he's a movie star.
Speaker 1: He's gonna keep making movies and uh, but but there
Speaker 1: is a lot of crossover now and that's good. That
Speaker 1: opens things up for guys like me. You also, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you think about some of the biggest stores in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: they got their start on TV and they go on
Speaker 1: to be these mega, mega superstars. Yeah. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: there are other guys who started the movies like me
Speaker 1: and then moved on to TV. But yeah, it's uh,
Speaker 1: you gotta start somewhere, you know, with a with a
Speaker 1: with a show like Entourage, with the character that you played,
Speaker 1: do you ever get tired of people calling you Johnny Drama?
Speaker 1: I mean, because I mean, I mean, you're synonymous with
Speaker 1: that character. Yeah, you know what, it doesn't bother me,
Speaker 1: It really doesn't. I take it as a compliment. And um,
Speaker 1: you know, I was called Matt Dilan's kid brother for
Speaker 1: most of my life, so I had that, and so
Speaker 1: Johnny Dramas, all right, that's something I created and I'm
Speaker 1: kind of proud of it. The Victory podcast, Um, whose
Speaker 1: idea was that? I mean, I listened to it. It's
Speaker 1: it's great to to listen the the angle of the podcast.
Speaker 1: Thank you I want to get you on by the
Speaker 1: way you get it when you come out to l A,
Speaker 1: come on by and to come pay us a visit
Speaker 1: out there. But it was Kevin, Kevin Connolly. Uh, he
Speaker 1: was like, I got this a big thing. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do this, not not just a podcast, but a whole studio.
Speaker 1: You know, so Action Park Studios, So he's got a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of podcasts. They'll probably try and recruit you
Speaker 1: knowing him, but he, uh, it was his idea, and
Speaker 1: it was right during the pandemic, and and it was
Speaker 1: when nobody was working. I mean, there was nothing going on,
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, let's go. We went in. We
Speaker 1: didn't know if any of us had COVID. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was so weird back then. We sat around the
Speaker 1: table and we did our first couple. Then we got
Speaker 1: comfortable and we had a good time, and then things
Speaker 1: started opening up a little bit. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it was great to just hang out with the guys
Speaker 1: because Entourage had ended and I didn't get to see
Speaker 1: him as offen. I love these guys great. I mean
Speaker 1: we're really really tight. So Kevin and Doug and myself
Speaker 1: and Jerry Ferrare and some of the guys w don't
Speaker 1: get to see us off, like Adrian Grenier, there's still
Speaker 1: you know, love there and I can't wait to see that.
Speaker 1: We're real tight. Jeremy Piven came on the podcast, asked,
Speaker 1: and he's got a podcast going. It's uh, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a great family. It really is the Entourage family.
Speaker 1: We all felt watching it that there was that you
Speaker 1: were like a family on the show, and it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's cool to hear that as the show has
Speaker 1: ended and you all have going on to do other things,
Speaker 1: that there still is that because I think that what
Speaker 1: for those of us that watched it, we we felt
Speaker 1: like we were part of it. We felt like we
Speaker 1: were That's what I love about the show the most
Speaker 1: is how much these guys, I mean, no matter what
Speaker 1: they do or what they're up to, they care so
Speaker 1: much for each other and they would do anything for
Speaker 1: each other. The show is so l a but yet
Speaker 1: it was so New York. It was like, these guys
Speaker 1: are boys from New York and they'll do anything for
Speaker 1: each other. And that that's what's really cool about it.
Speaker 1: It had a lot of heart and there's so many
Speaker 1: one line I mean, I have to deal with agents
Speaker 1: all the time, you know, and I say to him
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, dude, you're so e right now, quit
Speaker 1: being e. Like quit don't be a suit hey suit,
Speaker 1: take it easy, right, And I think that's like a
Speaker 1: really cool part of There's so many parts of that
Speaker 1: show that give people that will never have an opportunity
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. But you know, I mean the Johnny Drama,
Speaker 1: the Victory Viking Quest, all that stuff. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: the fact that that I that people get to realize
Speaker 1: that your character wasn't on NYPD but pacifically. That was
Speaker 1: another one of my favorite specific Blue Specivic Blue. I mean,
Speaker 1: all the the jobs that Johnny Drama had are amazing.
Speaker 1: He had so many, Like his resume was massive. Did
Speaker 1: was that was that dog? Did that? Or did you
Speaker 1: go to him and say, listen, may would be cool
Speaker 1: if Johnny Drama had this past and he started this
Speaker 1: commercial that was all Doug. That was all Doug me
Speaker 1: that stuff up, you know, and even like Vance started
Speaker 1: off doing Mentos commercials, you know, I mean, that's all
Speaker 1: Doug and his genius. He's just a really uh great writer.
Speaker 1: So show I'm Entourage ran for so long, Kevin, do
Speaker 1: you have what are some of your I mean I've
Speaker 1: got obviously, and everybody listening that sin entoge fan will
Speaker 1: have their favorite episodes or favorite scenes. Um, what are
Speaker 1: some episodes and some scenes, um that are your favorite
Speaker 1: as as as somebody that was a part of that,
Speaker 1: you know. I got a couple of episodes and and
Speaker 1: one of them is actually the golf episode because I
Speaker 1: love golf Tom Brady. That was actually supposed to be uh,
Speaker 1: originally that was supposed to be Eli Manning and he
Speaker 1: couldn't do it for some reason, and Mark Wahlberg called
Speaker 1: up Tom Brady and tom Brady's like, yeah, Doug Ellen
Speaker 1: had to rewrite the whole script to make it makes sense,
Speaker 1: and it was It was great. It was like I
Speaker 1: just love that episode because I love golf. And it
Speaker 1: was a weird day because I was hitting the ball
Speaker 1: so pure off the tape and like every shot they're like,
Speaker 1: all right, Dylan, that you gotta hit a bad shot now, okay,
Speaker 1: And I was like, I didn't want to hit a
Speaker 1: bad every moment it's like right down the middle. So
Speaker 1: I had a purposely like hit a duck hug and yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that that That is one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: But my number one favorite is when Johnny Drama is
Speaker 1: like all nervous because he's got a Five Towns is
Speaker 1: coming out. He's just afraid he's gonna get bad reviews.
Speaker 1: He's got horrible reviews in the past. I think a
Speaker 1: bird flies through the window and it's bad karma. He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is bad look and then the reviews come out. Well,
Speaker 1: he's like he's in a in an Asian rubbing tug
Speaker 1: and he's like, uh, trying to hide. He's like, what
Speaker 1: are you a variety? And here get rid of that thing,
Speaker 1: you know, and he finds out she's like, well, why
Speaker 1: don't you just read it? I read and I get
Speaker 1: a bad review. I storm out of there. I think
Speaker 1: my career is over. He drives out to the Grand Canyon,
Speaker 1: hammered by the way, which I don't know if you
Speaker 1: would ever see that again, you know, drinking and driving
Speaker 1: out to the Grand Canyon, and you think he's like
Speaker 1: in a draw the Lincoln off the cliff, wakes up
Speaker 1: in the morning like the show got picked up as
Speaker 1: a huge hit or it was the victory moment, so
Speaker 1: it was this great victory moment, I would say to me,
Speaker 1: just for my character and for me as an actor,
Speaker 1: I was able to show a lot in that one show,
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, you're trying to be funny,
Speaker 1: but you're trying to be you want to keep it
Speaker 1: real at the same time. And it's also very sad
Speaker 1: for him. He's just like this nervous records whole career.
Speaker 1: And and that's what Drama was all about. It wasn't
Speaker 1: about trying to get the girl and trying he wanted
Speaker 1: to be it. It wasn't even so much the fame. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he liked the fame, but he just he was really
Speaker 1: serious about being a good actor and being a great
Speaker 1: you know, he loved that. He loved the acting part
Speaker 1: of it. And he was a great character man. You
Speaker 1: don't come across guys characters like this too often. He
Speaker 1: was a career character of me. I've never had a
Speaker 1: better character. I've never been able to play someone as interesting.
Speaker 1: I've had some really good parts Bunny, Platoon and all
Speaker 1: these great parts, but Johnny Drama is still right up here.
Speaker 1: He's top top of the list for me. Is it hard, Kevin,
Speaker 1: when you're on such a hit show like that? And
Speaker 1: your characters for everybody on the show. When everybody's character
Speaker 1: is so defined and your so linked to that character,
Speaker 1: is it hard after it ends to say, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is I've got to pivot, this is the next phase
Speaker 1: of my life, because I'm sure you probably after that
Speaker 1: got loads of roles where you're like, I mean, do
Speaker 1: I really want to do this because it's kind of
Speaker 1: like what I've done already. Yeah. Yeah, That's all I
Speaker 1: was getting was Johnny drama types, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So for a while, I just got a bunch of
Speaker 1: Johnny drama type. But it's also you kind of get pigeonholed,
Speaker 1: a little bit of a little type cast, and and
Speaker 1: it takes a while they actually come out of it.
Speaker 1: It takes years. Only time will kind of heal that.
Speaker 1: But you get you know, they're like, oh we we
Speaker 1: we love, we love Kevin, Johnny Drama, we love Johnny.
Speaker 1: They're basically calling you Johnny Drama, we love Johnny Drama.
Speaker 1: You're a casting director. It's Kevin Dillon. You know, I
Speaker 1: could do other stuff, but really they do. They you
Speaker 1: kind of get typecast, and not just me, but pretty
Speaker 1: much everyone on the show. And it's Uh, I'm lucky.
Speaker 1: I've been able to fight out of it and just
Speaker 1: keep plugging. And it's tough man to keep this career
Speaker 1: going for that many years, over thirty years. It's hard, man,
Speaker 1: really is. It's funny. Uh, you know, I'm currently working
Speaker 1: with a player, Pat Perez. I love, I love I
Speaker 1: don't know him personally, I love it. I love him.
Speaker 1: Hats made the decision to go to live. Um. Every
Speaker 1: you know, he got paid, he's he's playing on DJ's team,
Speaker 1: and everybody's just constant on social media saying he's a bomb,
Speaker 1: he's a bomb, he's a bomba And I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: the guy played for twenty years on the PGA who
Speaker 1: are never lost its card in the Tiger Phil era
Speaker 1: to do that, I mean, people don't realize to have.
Speaker 1: And very similar to the reason I bring it up,
Speaker 1: like yourself, the career longevity that you had to start
Speaker 1: starring in movies, you know, in the early eighties and
Speaker 1: it's two you're still getting work. I mean that's that
Speaker 1: would be a scene in Entourage that people would go
Speaker 1: out that that kind of stuff doesn't happen. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I totally get by. I mean if it's
Speaker 1: kind of like the movie industry back and they the
Speaker 1: forties where the studios they're gonna pay you, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, you get paid for doing you work
Speaker 1: for them, and then you kind of but it's hard
Speaker 1: to say no to that. And I really I don't.
Speaker 1: I have nothing but respect for all those guys, and Uh,
Speaker 1: I probably would do the same. You know. There's that
Speaker 1: scene where you guys are on the floor at the
Speaker 1: Laker game, and and and Ian and Vincent the characters
Speaker 1: or something. He doesn't want to get type cast, and
Speaker 1: and and a Jeremy Pipogos, but there's Batman and there's
Speaker 1: the Joker wading around. He's a typecast. Is rich guys
Speaker 1: right as billionaires or whatever have you are? Have you
Speaker 1: been surprised, um, that Adrian who played Vince, has you know,
Speaker 1: going in a different direction, um and has basically kind
Speaker 1: of forged his own path away from the world that
Speaker 1: you guys were all in. Not really, you know, Adrian
Speaker 1: is is uh is a great guy, sensitive guy, and
Speaker 1: he's a real he really cares about the environment a
Speaker 1: lot as to why, but I have so much respect
Speaker 1: for him because he's he's really doing something about it.
Speaker 1: You know, you know I bought a tesla. That's not
Speaker 1: really I I'm trying to do my part. But he's
Speaker 1: out there trying to save the whales. He's trying to
Speaker 1: clean up the ocean. He's trying to do all kinds
Speaker 1: of things. And I I'm hoping to be more like
Speaker 1: him as the future goes by and I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do more. I love what he does and he's
Speaker 1: you know, he's a great human being. Last Entourage question, Um,
Speaker 1: not nuts. I don't care. I love it. Um, you
Speaker 1: were the chef on the show. Um, talk to me
Speaker 1: about your cooking skills. You have real cooking skills like
Speaker 1: you did on the show. I do, man, I do.
Speaker 1: I love to cook, But to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I didn't really I was okay before Entourage. I wanted
Speaker 1: to learn to make really make it look like I
Speaker 1: knew what I was doing. So I actually had a
Speaker 1: body of mine. It was a chef teach me. Had
Speaker 1: a chop You'll see I I you curb the fingered Ugh,
Speaker 1: they're chopping. I'll I'll have everything going. I would wipe
Speaker 1: the plates clean. These are little things that I would
Speaker 1: do like that. I thought would be a real Johnny
Speaker 1: drama that you know, wipe off the plate as he
Speaker 1: serves Vince. You know, I wanted to Uh, I wanted
Speaker 1: to make him this, you know, just the guy who
Speaker 1: was over the top with the cooking. But I love
Speaker 1: it and I've become better because of Johnny Drama. I
Speaker 1: could I cook a mean meat ball. I can make
Speaker 1: you know, great bowling as little mac and cheese. I
Speaker 1: don't mess around. I'm pretty good. Um. Wire room with
Speaker 1: Bruce Willis. Um, he's a legend. Um. What was it
Speaker 1: like working with Bruce? And obviously Bruce is going through
Speaker 1: the issues health wise that he's going through, But to
Speaker 1: to I spent a lost weekend in Manhattan with Bruce Willis.
Speaker 1: He came to a golf school in Las Vegas with
Speaker 1: a friend of the Carmines Azora. UM, my dad and
Speaker 1: I at our golf school in Vegas. We taught him
Speaker 1: and he was like, hey, we should stay in touch.
Speaker 1: And it's like late nineties and but yeah, Bruce, let's
Speaker 1: stay in touch. Like three weeks later he called me.
Speaker 1: He goes in Philadelphia, I'm filming this movie The sixth Cents.
Speaker 1: Do you want to come to New York and play
Speaker 1: some golf. And I'm like, yeah, sure, So I go
Speaker 1: to New York. Um. We end up that weekend playing
Speaker 1: at Wingfoot with Donald Trump. Um. We played at Westchester
Speaker 1: Country Club with Jack Nick Wilson and he went to
Speaker 1: Game one. We went to Game one of the World
Speaker 1: Series with Tino Martinez hit the Grand Slam against them,
Speaker 1: the San Diego Padres and and I'm sitting there and
Speaker 1: I'm like, no one is ever going to believe this story.
Speaker 1: I mean, Spike Lee was there, and no. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's amazing, man. How was it? Was? He pretty good?
Speaker 1: Pretty he was Bruce Bruce Actually, you know he's left handed.
Speaker 1: He hits it. You know, Bruce hits it pretty good.
Speaker 1: I mean he's got a good swing. He's athletics. You know,
Speaker 1: he still plays. I heard that. It's the one thing
Speaker 1: he still he still plays, and he's I hear, he's
Speaker 1: still pretty good. We didn't have days off on the
Speaker 1: same at the same time, so we didn't get to
Speaker 1: play together. I did work with them twice. I did
Speaker 1: two movies with him. The first movie, I didn't have
Speaker 1: any scenes with him. The second movie, of course, uh uh,
Speaker 1: hot Wire Room we had a lot of stuff together,
Speaker 1: and he's a great guy and he uh, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a tough time. He's going through it right now,
Speaker 1: but he still gets it done. He was still good
Speaker 1: in the movie, and he still enjoys golf, and he's
Speaker 1: still uh, you know, he's got his boys with him,
Speaker 1: and they every time they would go to do a movie,
Speaker 1: that would go play a couple of rounds of golf.
Speaker 1: And apparently he could still hit the ball. You know,
Speaker 1: he looks great too. He's only Yeah, do you watch
Speaker 1: a lot of golf? I mean, I'm always surprised at actor, celebrities,
Speaker 1: athletes that how much golf do you watch? You know?
Speaker 1: It depends right now, lately I have been watching as much.
Speaker 1: But I mean i'll watch I won't miss a major.
Speaker 1: I won't miss any major, so uh but most of
Speaker 1: the time if it's on, it'll be between football and golf, right.
Speaker 1: You know, I love golf. Favorite golf courses that you've
Speaker 1: gotten to play? And what are some golf courses that
Speaker 1: are on your kind of Johnny drama bucket list? Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. You know, it's sounds wrong to say,
Speaker 1: but Wingfoot is as good as a guess I can't
Speaker 1: be as good as a game. I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just straight no bs, it's right there in front
Speaker 1: of you. You know, take me if you can. Kind
Speaker 1: of golf course, but I've had, you know. I played Pebble.
Speaker 1: I love Pebble. Cypress Cypress is pretty pretty special. That
Speaker 1: was good, really great. I still haven't been to Augusta.
Speaker 1: I would love to play Augusta. I would love to
Speaker 1: play Pine Valley. My dad was kind of a big
Speaker 1: guy over a Pine Valley. They all know him. I
Speaker 1: think you might have some portraits hanging up there or something.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I would love to do Pine Valley.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean I just love golf. So St
Speaker 1: Andrew's gotta do. I did a bunch in Ireland. I did.
Speaker 1: I love Ireland. But I used to a golf simulator.
Speaker 1: It's called it was called a full swing golf simulator.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember. We used it in
Speaker 1: an entourage and I was like, hey, what does it
Speaker 1: take for me to get a golf I want one
Speaker 1: of these? And they're like, well, we could probably work
Speaker 1: something out. So they flew me out to the Big
Speaker 1: Golf Convention in Florida, and I got up there and uh,
Speaker 1: they kind of broke down my swing. It was Jim Flick,
Speaker 1: Jim McLean, sorry, Jim McLean. Yeah, it was Jim McClain
Speaker 1: broke down my swing. Great guy. So I got up
Speaker 1: on stage and I right away. I mean, I had
Speaker 1: a nine iron into like and I put one pretty
Speaker 1: close to the pin and he kind of did a
Speaker 1: couple of tweaks. This is in front of a thousand people,
Speaker 1: and I hit one even closer. I mean, what a
Speaker 1: great guy. And so I did that, and they gave
Speaker 1: me a full swing golf simulator. I put in my
Speaker 1: garage and I played it for, you know, fifteen years,
Speaker 1: ten years on the golf simulator. Great, great times. Who
Speaker 1: are your favorite golfers to watch? I mean, who do
Speaker 1: you watch? And you say, okay, I'm rooting for him.
Speaker 1: M I want this guy to win. You know. It's weird,
Speaker 1: but there are two of your guys. I believe Brooks, Yeah, Brooks.
Speaker 1: I love Brooks. I've met him in l A. And
Speaker 1: I love Brooks. I love his attitude. And and the
Speaker 1: other one is Dustin Johnson and I know d J.
Speaker 1: We met a long time ago through David David Winkler.
Speaker 1: You know David, David Winkle a great guy. And so
Speaker 1: we met and um, he met my dad, and my
Speaker 1: dad hooked us up together, and uh we all had
Speaker 1: you know, we went out to Houston, had brigs and
Speaker 1: had a great time. But those two guys, I just
Speaker 1: I love both of them. I love Rory, Love Rory McElroy.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got my favorite golf swing of all time.
Speaker 1: If I could have a golf swing, I take Rory.
Speaker 1: You know what is um, Kevin, what's the current handicap
Speaker 1: right now? Talk to me about your game? What's your handicap?
Speaker 1: I haven't even I haven't even been posting my game
Speaker 1: is I've been so out of the game for a
Speaker 1: while because work has been great. The beginning of COVID,
Speaker 1: like I said, it was terrible. The second half of COVID,
Speaker 1: they ran out of stuff to watch, so they were like,
Speaker 1: we gotta make movies, We gotta we gotta get some stuff,
Speaker 1: some material out there. And I've been working NonStop. So
Speaker 1: my game, I've never played as little golf as I
Speaker 1: have this last couple of years. A year and a
Speaker 1: half or so, and I'd probably be like a fifteen
Speaker 1: I'm that bad. I mean, I'm terrible. I'm hitting him
Speaker 1: off the hozzle right now. I mean it's bad. And
Speaker 1: the rumor is you've got the shanks. Don't say that word.
Speaker 1: You can't say yes word. I don't mind because I
Speaker 1: got him. I mean, I already got him. But and
Speaker 1: let me tell you about it. It's something that comes
Speaker 1: back with me a lot because I get him and
Speaker 1: they'll go away for a while, but they'll come up.
Speaker 1: And I did this thing where with the Donald Trump
Speaker 1: golf thing with Mark Wahlberg. I had the shanks during
Speaker 1: that too, and it was bad dude, and on TV,
Speaker 1: and it was like Mark asked me to do it.
Speaker 1: I said, I can't do it, Mark, I I I played. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was at the range the other day. I had
Speaker 1: twelve of them. I had twelve shanks. He's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. We we will take control of it.
Speaker 1: It was. It was the rough. It was one of
Speaker 1: the worst moments ever to be what you say, you're
Speaker 1: hitting checks you know, I was terrible. One are the
Speaker 1: strengths of your game if you're playing all I could
Speaker 1: be If I'm playing playing well, I could be a
Speaker 1: good driver. I could get it out pretty far. Uh,
Speaker 1: and I could be pretty consistent. I'm decent chopper, decent chopper.
Speaker 1: I'm usually bad putter, but I got this claw. I'm
Speaker 1: working than the Yeah, what's the lowest round you've shot?
Speaker 1: I shot a two wonder that Camario Springs I had.
Speaker 1: I had six birdies four of minute row and uh,
Speaker 1: I still have four bogies. But yeah, to tow other,
Speaker 1: but I've shot even part a couple of It's for me.
Speaker 1: L A is easy. You could go out there and
Speaker 1: it's like, well, I'm playing public courses in l A.
Speaker 1: It's not waying foot so I'm not I don't have
Speaker 1: to you know, hit a flop shot up on the green.
Speaker 1: I can I can see the pin right there. I
Speaker 1: could get up and down. But yeah, I mean, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: my my, my rounds in l A have gotten pretty low. Um. Lastly,
Speaker 1: Kevin talked to me about what's what's the upcoming projects,
Speaker 1: the things that you're really really exciting about. Where are
Speaker 1: we going to be seeing you and uh, what what
Speaker 1: do you have in the pipeline? Well, I got uh,
Speaker 1: I got I gotta still got a bunch of things
Speaker 1: going on. Like I said, I have the the Pilot,
Speaker 1: which I think will go with Charlie Sheen and Kevin Connolly.
Speaker 1: That's called uh ramble On. So I got that. I
Speaker 1: got a Reagan movie with Dennis Quaid. Dennis quite plays
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. I play Jack Warner from Warner Brothers. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be really cool. And I just got a text
Speaker 1: from the producer today he said, just looking really good
Speaker 1: that movie. Uh. It takes a lot of time because
Speaker 1: there they have to age them down and then aide
Speaker 1: them up. So Dennis was right in the middle for
Speaker 1: both and they I don't know if they're aging me
Speaker 1: or not or or I don't think they're messing with
Speaker 1: me too much. But uh. And then I got, uh
Speaker 1: the Buddy Games, Buddy Games to the sequel. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be great. It's hilarious. Well, we've got to get together.
Speaker 1: I can help you with your golf whenever, and uh,
Speaker 1: we'll get together. And um if I get to l
Speaker 1: a UM, I'm gonna take you up on the offer
Speaker 1: to be on on the podcast. I just joined, uh
Speaker 1: a golf course called Sati Koi, which is a really
Speaker 1: nice golf course too, So maybe you could get out
Speaker 1: there and tee it up. But I love to have
Speaker 1: you on Victory the podcast and thank you for having
Speaker 1: me as a guest. I've had a great time. And
Speaker 1: you you now have something in common with my father.
Speaker 1: My my father grew up at Wingfoot. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know, but they were just the brothers were
Speaker 1: just up there um for the Anderson and unbeknownst to
Speaker 1: my dad, they made them honorary members. And they did
Speaker 1: this while my dad and his brothers were speaking, and um,
Speaker 1: they said. My dad was crying. And he immediately sent
Speaker 1: me a picture of his little um honorary member plaque.
Speaker 1: And he's so excited about it. So I'll let him
Speaker 1: know that. And um, you know, he was a big
Speaker 1: fan of the show. And man, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: It's uh. I've done a lot of cool things, but
Speaker 1: to get an opportunity to to to speak to you
Speaker 1: as uh, it's a huge, huge thing for me and
Speaker 1: great talking to you. Man, it's great talking to you.
Speaker 1: I love what you do and and I love golf
Speaker 1: and all your guys keep killing it. Man. We gotta
Speaker 1: get you out to come out to some tour events. Oh,
Speaker 1: I would love to. I would love to. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Thanks Kevin. Thank you. So that was Kevin Dillon and UM,
Speaker 1: I mean he's it's almost like he is Johnny Drama
Speaker 1: the character. But um, what a cool guy to talk
Speaker 1: to and you know, certainly one of the highlights of
Speaker 1: my life getting chance to talk to him talk about Entourage. Um,
Speaker 1: it's a show that uh was huge for me. I
Speaker 1: lived in l A and Uh, I'll be honest. I
Speaker 1: got back and watch it. I'm sure everybody else does too.
Speaker 1: So really really glad to have Kevin on and UM,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get him. We're gonna work on his golf swing.
Speaker 1: I can't have him having the shanks. So PJ Tour
Speaker 1: started last week unfortunate finish for Danny Willett, but what
Speaker 1: an amazing chip in Maxima who wins again. And then
Speaker 1: on the live Cam Smith and DJ duking it out
Speaker 1: down the stretch and Cam Smith wins and listen, golf
Speaker 1: is golf, whether it's on the PGA Tour, whether it's
Speaker 1: on the Live Tour. Um, there are players playing golf.
Speaker 1: I was at the Live Tour last week with DJ.
Speaker 1: UM I watched Camp Smith play. Um, he's doing the
Speaker 1: same thing on live that he was doing on the
Speaker 1: PGA Tour, which is playing unbelievable golf. This guy's putting
Speaker 1: in short game is about as good as anything that
Speaker 1: you can find right now anywhere in the world. And UM,
Speaker 1: if there was a major next week, our major this week,
Speaker 1: I think you'd see camp Smith in contention. I think
Speaker 1: you'd see Dustin Johnson in contention. I think you'd see
Speaker 1: Roy McElroy in contention. UM. I think you'd see the
Speaker 1: best players in the world get into contention in big tournaments.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's to me, that's what's
Speaker 1: being overlooked by this whole you know, live versus the
Speaker 1: PGA Tour thing. Um. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's golf, and whether you're watching the PGA Tour, you're
Speaker 1: watching live, you're going to see great players hitting great
Speaker 1: shots and playing great golf. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: we all want. A huge week this week the President's Cup. UM,
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I mean, I think there are some
Speaker 1: guys um that should be there, both on the American
Speaker 1: team and the international team, UM, that are not allowed
Speaker 1: to be there. UM. I thought that, UM. Matt Fitzpatrick,
Speaker 1: the reigning US Open champion, who played on the last
Speaker 1: Ryder Cup team for Europe. UM. I thought his comments
Speaker 1: about the Ryder Cup. Um, we're pretty interesting. He said,
Speaker 1: I just want to win the Ryder Cup. So in
Speaker 1: my opinion, I want to be a part of the
Speaker 1: team myself, but I want the eleven best guys we
Speaker 1: can get on the team. And UM, I think the
Speaker 1: team competitions should be the best players. And UM, I
Speaker 1: don't know if this President's Up team will have a
Speaker 1: little bit of an astric Um. I feel unbelievably sorry
Speaker 1: for Trevor Immelman. Um, he's a friend. We had him
Speaker 1: on the podcast and try and get him on the
Speaker 1: podcast after. Um the President's Cup because listen, it's hard
Speaker 1: for their international team. They've never beaten the American team
Speaker 1: and and they want to have their best players, and
Speaker 1: um they don't. Uh they they're not allowed to pick them.
Speaker 1: And the U S side is is missing some of
Speaker 1: their best players as well. So, UM, they should be
Speaker 1: playing and I think the best teams should be there.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people will disagree, but that's
Speaker 1: my opinion and it's my damn podcast, so UM, I'm
Speaker 1: putting it out there. Uh so, but excited. Um, the
Speaker 1: team competition always good. Um, the international team kind of
Speaker 1: banded together down in Melbourne last time and you know
Speaker 1: got it pretty close. Took a pretty big rally from
Speaker 1: the U S team to get that win. Can Trevor
Speaker 1: Immilman rally? Uh, the troops that he has on that team,
Speaker 1: can they make a run? Um? But team competition, it's
Speaker 1: always great and U it's always great to see how
Speaker 1: these matchups match up on the golf course. So I'm
Speaker 1: excited to watch it, and I know everybody else is too.
Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody for listening. We've got some
Speaker 1: great podcasts. Um if you haven't gone back and checked
Speaker 1: out past episodes, there are a lot of good ones
Speaker 1: out there, so please check them out. I want to
Speaker 1: thank everyone for listening. And Son of a Book comes
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