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Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Butch podcast. You guys know,

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Speaker 1: the drill drops every Wednesday. I am your host, Claude Harmon.

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Speaker 1: This week's guest, UM, this week's guest is the reason

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Speaker 1: why I wanted to do the podcast in the first place.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Dillon a k a. Johnny Drama from Entourage. UM.

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Speaker 1: If you're not a fan of Entourage, you you need

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Speaker 1: to question your life choices because to me, it's one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest television shows of all time, and Johnny

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Speaker 1: Drama is one of the greatest television characters of all time. UM.

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Speaker 1: It's something that we've been trying to get Kevin on

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Speaker 1: the pod for a while. He's a big golfer, comes

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Speaker 1: from a big golf family. Golf has been a huge

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Speaker 1: part of that show, so to get him is one

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Speaker 1: get to the interview with Kevin Dillon. All right, my

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Speaker 1: guest today is Kevin Dillon. Kevin. When I say I'm

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Speaker 1: a fan, I am a huge fan, and I might.

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Speaker 1: My wife watches when I quote movies and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: She says, how do you have this photographic memory? I

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Speaker 1: watch Entourage and I and I can quote it like

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Speaker 1: every episode. So it's it's huge to do this. But

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Speaker 1: Heaven help us. You started that in the early eighties.

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Speaker 1: Um four bro, my screws a loose brother, my crew

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Speaker 1: brother brother Daddy. Yeah, yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy.

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Speaker 1: I actually, uh, when I got beat by the priest.

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Speaker 1: I actually I got my head bashed against the black boy.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, brother, Yeah, I'm sorry brother. He actually hit

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Speaker 1: I got bumps in my head. They gave me. It

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Speaker 1: you look back at that time in your life, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: I mean, but the career that you've had, and I

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Speaker 1: mean it started with something like that. When you're on

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Speaker 1: As soon as I heard the laughter and the applause,

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Speaker 1: I'd say I've definitely gotten I've gotten closer with entourage,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Hey, he was in you know,

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Speaker 1: some cool stuff. But I mean you were in platoon

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Speaker 1: It's kind of cool work with him that many years later,

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Speaker 1: Platoon is great. I think we got a really a

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Speaker 1: This is as good as it gets. We're in the Philippines,

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Speaker 1: would have gone on to have real legit careers in Hollywood.

426
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Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah. You know Westchester County,

427
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: they they breed some some good athletes, some good actors

428
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: out here. Did you play um junior golf, high school

429
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: golf growing up? Or I didn't? You know what I'm from.

430
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 1: I'm one of six five boys. My dad loved golf

431
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: and tried to get us into it, and we were like.

432
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: It starts with my older brother Paul. I'm gonna blame

433
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: him because he was like, where golf is for whimps,

434
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: We don't play golf, you know. He played baseball, basketball, football,

435
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: That was his attitude. And now we all play golf,

436
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: and we all wish we started when my dad said, hey,

437
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: come with me to the range. You know, but we didn't.

438
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't start until my late twenties. That's

439
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: why my swing does not hold up. You know, I

440
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: need a little help. I gotta come pay you visit.

441
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: We we we can definitely help you with the golf

442
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: side of things. That would be good. I think most

443
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 1: people that are going to be listening to this will

444
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: be very surprised, um, that golf has been such a

445
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: huge part of your life and a huge part of

446
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: your family. I mean, your your father, you said he

447
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: was the golfer. Did you look up to him and think, Okay,

448
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: one day, when I'm older, maybe I'll get into this,

449
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 1: like you said, because you and I are kind of

450
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: relatively you know, of that same generation. I never played

451
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: a lot of golf growing up because when I was

452
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: growing up, golf wasn't cool. It was old men out

453
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: of shape and funny clothes. You know, there was no

454
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: tiger Woods, there was no you know, it wasn't any

455
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: of that. And now and now, um, you know, golf

456
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: is cool. Yeah, you know what it wasn't. Well, once

457
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: I got into it. My younger brothers started before me,

458
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: and they he was a member at Wykey Gel Nourish

459
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: Oh and Uh. We used to just go there for

460
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: the pool. So it was like, you know, we could

461
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: go to the pool, we get some of those drink

462
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: tickets and he eat some hotdogs and beers and jump

463
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: in the pool. And then my younger brothers started playing.

464
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: I guess my dad got to him. He talked one

465
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: of the men to play into the father's son, and

466
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: then I started kind of you know, I mean, I

467
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: started playing a little bit, and then I got roped

468
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: into the father's son and they called that apology golf,

469
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: where you're not allowed to I kept hitting it into

470
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: the woods and I was sorry. Dad. He's like, don't

471
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: apologize it. But we had I had a great time.

472
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: And that's when it kind of happened. I was maybe

473
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: twenty eight. I wish I started younger and uh. And

474
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: then I have two daughters and I can't get it

475
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: either or ment to golf. My youngest daughter's got a

476
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 1: great golf swing, but it's like I gotta twist arm

477
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: to get her to play. It's the best sport in

478
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: the world. You just sometimes when you're young, you gotta

479
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: be pushed a little bit. I think you know you

480
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: mentioned my grandfather who was the longtime head pro at Wingfoot.

481
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: He's kind of synonymous with that, but not a lot

482
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: of people know this. Um, they were, my dad said

483
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: when they were younger, my grandfather, they were members at

484
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: why Kagill. So my dad played in no more round.

485
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: He played more rounds at why Kagill probably than he

486
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: did at Wingfoot. Great story, Um, I want to say,

487
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: is that the last hole that's a par five where

488
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: you've got to hit it over water? My dad said,

489
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 1: because my dad was, you know, pretty rebellious. He said

490
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 1: they'd be in the middle of the fairway, it'd be

491
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: down wind, and he said he just pull out three

492
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: wood and he and his brothers, his brother's you know,

493
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: my uncle Dick, my uncle Craig, Mouncle Billy would go no, no, no,

494
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: you's got too much club. My dad said, he just

495
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: he take the three would out and just hammer it

496
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: because he wanted to hit the clubhouse and he'd be

497
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: banging it off the clubhouse like tin cup until I

498
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: get it over. East Coast is a big part of

499
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: the Entourage story. Um, did you guys did was that

500
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: from Mark? Was that from Doug? Did you and I'm

501
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: always interested on a show like Entourage, which is so

502
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: which is so iconic, how much input as an actor

503
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: were you able to put into the show and your

504
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: character or was it listen, you know, this is script,

505
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: you do this, you know. It was a little bit

506
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: of both. The script was the script. But as the

507
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: show started taking off, if I had an idea, I would,

508
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: you know. That's why I felt me and Doug Ellen

509
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: are really great friends. If I have an idea about something,

510
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: I could throw it to him. He might write it. So,

511
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: I mean, every one of these scripts kind of came

512
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: through all of us, like anyone could have said, told

513
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: Doug a story about what happened in Hollywood or what

514
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: happened on a golf course and all these kind of

515
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: crazy things. But yeah, it was it was a little

516
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: bit of both. And if I wanted to change something,

517
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: I would have to pretty much have to do it

518
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: in advance, don't do it on the set. He I'd

519
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: have to call dog, it's a Doug, I'd like to

520
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: change that to this if that's okay. And as long

521
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: as I did that, he'd be that most of the time,

522
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: he'd be like a So I would uh, I'd be

523
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: able to change, but he didn't really like you just

524
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: going off on your own. He put a lot of

525
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: thought into his words. He wanted to he wanted him

526
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: said kind of the way he wrote them. That was

527
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: my other question. I mean, as an actor, are there

528
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: directors and people that you do movies with, but say, listen,

529
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: why don't you try and bring your own ideas? And

530
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: you kind of have that license to ad lib on

531
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: the fly while the cameras are rolling, And then I'm

532
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: sure they're directors are like, do it this way I

533
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: wrote it. It's my baby, this is the way I wanted. Yeah.

534
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: I mean one thing was Doug wrote great dialogue, so

535
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean the tweaks were very small, if I had any.

536
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: But the last movie I just did wash It's It's

537
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: it's great, but it's a different kind of thing. It's

538
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: more of an improv and um it was Buddy Games.

539
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: There was a Buddy Games one and it did really well,

540
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: and then we just shot at the sequel Buddy Games too,

541
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be hilarious and it's all kind of

542
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: like we're figuring it out as we go, and it

543
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: was so fun to do. It really is a lot

544
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: of fun. You know, you hear a lot about actors. Um.

545
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: One of the things I think it's really interesting about

546
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: Entourage is um Vince's character and Ari's character. There's that

547
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: scene where she he's trying to get Vince a job

548
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: and somebody in the in the meeting talks about a

549
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: television job. And you know, this idea that Vince was

550
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: a movie star not a television store. Do you find

551
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: it interesting now that that line has been so blurred

552
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: because now Netflix, Hulu, it seems like a lot of

553
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: the things that are great on TV, not basically old

554
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: school kind of movie star stuff. A lot of the

555
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: great work is on TV now. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

556
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,719
Speaker 1: there's there's no long or a movie actor and a

557
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: TV actor. Now you could do you could do both

558
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: pretty much. But that was that was the way it

559
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: was growing up. I did all movies, and then once

560
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: I broke into TV, it was like I couldn't get

561
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: a movie job because I was a TV actor. Now,

562
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: so I was doing TV. Thank God, that's different now

563
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: and I could work both sides of you know, doing both.

564
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: But still you'll see guys like, you know, Leo DiCaprio

565
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: is not doing any TV shows. He's he's a movie star.

566
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: He's gonna keep making movies and uh, but but there

567
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: is a lot of crossover now and that's good. That

568
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: opens things up for guys like me. You also, I mean,

569
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: if you think about some of the biggest stores in Hollywood,

570
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: they got their start on TV and they go on

571
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: to be these mega, mega superstars. Yeah. Yeah, and then

572
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: there are other guys who started the movies like me

573
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: and then moved on to TV. But yeah, it's uh,

574
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: you gotta start somewhere, you know, with a with a

575
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: with a show like Entourage, with the character that you played,

576
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: do you ever get tired of people calling you Johnny Drama?

577
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: I mean, because I mean, I mean, you're synonymous with

578
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: that character. Yeah, you know what, it doesn't bother me,

579
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: It really doesn't. I take it as a compliment. And um,

580
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, I was called Matt Dilan's kid brother for

581
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: most of my life, so I had that, and so

582
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: Johnny Dramas, all right, that's something I created and I'm

583
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: kind of proud of it. The Victory podcast, Um, whose

584
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: idea was that? I mean, I listened to it. It's

585
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: it's great to to listen the the angle of the podcast.

586
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: Thank you I want to get you on by the

587
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: way you get it when you come out to l A,

588
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: come on by and to come pay us a visit

589
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: out there. But it was Kevin, Kevin Connolly. Uh, he

590
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: was like, I got this a big thing. I'm gonna

591
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: do this, not not just a podcast, but a whole studio.

592
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: You know, so Action Park Studios, So he's got a

593
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: whole bunch of podcasts. They'll probably try and recruit you

594
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: knowing him, but he, uh, it was his idea, and

595
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: it was right during the pandemic, and and it was

596
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: when nobody was working. I mean, there was nothing going on,

597
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, let's go. We went in. We

598
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: didn't know if any of us had COVID. I mean,

599
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: it was so weird back then. We sat around the

600
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: table and we did our first couple. Then we got

601
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: comfortable and we had a good time, and then things

602
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: started opening up a little bit. But yeah, I mean

603
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: it was great to just hang out with the guys

604
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: because Entourage had ended and I didn't get to see

605
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: him as offen. I love these guys great. I mean

606
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: we're really really tight. So Kevin and Doug and myself

607
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: and Jerry Ferrare and some of the guys w don't

608
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: get to see us off, like Adrian Grenier, there's still

609
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, love there and I can't wait to see that.

610
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: We're real tight. Jeremy Piven came on the podcast, asked,

611
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: and he's got a podcast going. It's uh, it's a

612
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: it's a great family. It really is the Entourage family.

613
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: We all felt watching it that there was that you

614
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: were like a family on the show, and it's it's

615
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: it's it's cool to hear that as the show has

616
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: ended and you all have going on to do other things,

617
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: that there still is that because I think that what

618
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: for those of us that watched it, we we felt

619
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: like we were part of it. We felt like we

620
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: were That's what I love about the show the most

621
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: is how much these guys, I mean, no matter what

622
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: they do or what they're up to, they care so

623
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: much for each other and they would do anything for

624
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: each other. The show is so l a but yet

625
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: it was so New York. It was like, these guys

626
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: are boys from New York and they'll do anything for

627
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: each other. And that that's what's really cool about it.

628
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: It had a lot of heart and there's so many

629
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: one line I mean, I have to deal with agents

630
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: all the time, you know, and I say to him

631
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, dude, you're so e right now, quit

632
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: being e. Like quit don't be a suit hey suit,

633
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: take it easy, right, And I think that's like a

634
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: really cool part of There's so many parts of that

635
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: show that give people that will never have an opportunity

636
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. But you know, I mean the Johnny Drama,

637
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: the Victory Viking Quest, all that stuff. Um, you know,

638
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: the fact that that I that people get to realize

639
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: that your character wasn't on NYPD but pacifically. That was

640
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: another one of my favorite specific Blue Specivic Blue. I mean,

641
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: all the the jobs that Johnny Drama had are amazing.

642
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: He had so many, Like his resume was massive. Did

643
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: was that was that dog? Did that? Or did you

644
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: go to him and say, listen, may would be cool

645
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: if Johnny Drama had this past and he started this

646
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: commercial that was all Doug. That was all Doug me

647
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: that stuff up, you know, and even like Vance started

648
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: off doing Mentos commercials, you know, I mean, that's all

649
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: Doug and his genius. He's just a really uh great writer.

650
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: So show I'm Entourage ran for so long, Kevin, do

651
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: you have what are some of your I mean I've

652
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: got obviously, and everybody listening that sin entoge fan will

653
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: have their favorite episodes or favorite scenes. Um, what are

654
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: some episodes and some scenes, um that are your favorite

655
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: as as as somebody that was a part of that,

656
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: you know. I got a couple of episodes and and

657
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: one of them is actually the golf episode because I

658
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: love golf Tom Brady. That was actually supposed to be uh,

659
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: originally that was supposed to be Eli Manning and he

660
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: couldn't do it for some reason, and Mark Wahlberg called

661
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: up Tom Brady and tom Brady's like, yeah, Doug Ellen

662
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: had to rewrite the whole script to make it makes sense,

663
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: and it was It was great. It was like I

664
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: just love that episode because I love golf. And it

665
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: was a weird day because I was hitting the ball

666
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: so pure off the tape and like every shot they're like,

667
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: all right, Dylan, that you gotta hit a bad shot now, okay,

668
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, I didn't want to hit a

669
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: bad every moment it's like right down the middle. So

670
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: I had a purposely like hit a duck hug and yeah,

671
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean that that That is one of my favorites.

672
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: But my number one favorite is when Johnny Drama is

673
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: like all nervous because he's got a Five Towns is

674
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: coming out. He's just afraid he's gonna get bad reviews.

675
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: He's got horrible reviews in the past. I think a

676
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: bird flies through the window and it's bad karma. He's like, oh,

677
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: this is bad look and then the reviews come out. Well,

678
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: he's like he's in a in an Asian rubbing tug

679
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: and he's like, uh, trying to hide. He's like, what

680
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: are you a variety? And here get rid of that thing,

681
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, and he finds out she's like, well, why

682
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: don't you just read it? I read and I get

683
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: a bad review. I storm out of there. I think

684
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: my career is over. He drives out to the Grand Canyon,

685
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: hammered by the way, which I don't know if you

686
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: would ever see that again, you know, drinking and driving

687
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: out to the Grand Canyon, and you think he's like

688
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: in a draw the Lincoln off the cliff, wakes up

689
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: in the morning like the show got picked up as

690
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: a huge hit or it was the victory moment, so

691
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: it was this great victory moment, I would say to me,

692
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: just for my character and for me as an actor,

693
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: I was able to show a lot in that one show,

694
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, you're trying to be funny,

695
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: but you're trying to be you want to keep it

696
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: real at the same time. And it's also very sad

697
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: for him. He's just like this nervous records whole career.

698
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: And and that's what Drama was all about. It wasn't

699
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: about trying to get the girl and trying he wanted

700
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: to be it. It wasn't even so much the fame. Yeah,

701
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: he liked the fame, but he just he was really

702
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: serious about being a good actor and being a great

703
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, he loved that. He loved the acting part

704
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: of it. And he was a great character man. You

705
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: don't come across guys characters like this too often. He

706
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: was a career character of me. I've never had a

707
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: better character. I've never been able to play someone as interesting.

708
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: I've had some really good parts Bunny, Platoon and all

709
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: these great parts, but Johnny Drama is still right up here.

710
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: He's top top of the list for me. Is it hard, Kevin,

711
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: when you're on such a hit show like that? And

712
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: your characters for everybody on the show. When everybody's character

713
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: is so defined and your so linked to that character,

714
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: is it hard after it ends to say, Okay, this

715
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: is I've got to pivot, this is the next phase

716
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: of my life, because I'm sure you probably after that

717
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: got loads of roles where you're like, I mean, do

718
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: I really want to do this because it's kind of

719
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: like what I've done already. Yeah. Yeah, That's all I

720
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: was getting was Johnny drama types, you know what I mean.

721
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: So for a while, I just got a bunch of

722
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: Johnny drama type. But it's also you kind of get pigeonholed,

723
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: a little bit of a little type cast, and and

724
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: it takes a while they actually come out of it.

725
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: It takes years. Only time will kind of heal that.

726
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: But you get you know, they're like, oh we we

727
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: we love, we love Kevin, Johnny Drama, we love Johnny.

728
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: They're basically calling you Johnny Drama, we love Johnny Drama.

729
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: You're a casting director. It's Kevin Dillon. You know, I

730
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: could do other stuff, but really they do. They you

731
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: kind of get typecast, and not just me, but pretty

732
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: much everyone on the show. And it's Uh, I'm lucky.

733
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: I've been able to fight out of it and just

734
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: keep plugging. And it's tough man to keep this career

735
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: going for that many years, over thirty years. It's hard, man,

736
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: really is. It's funny. Uh, you know, I'm currently working

737
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: with a player, Pat Perez. I love, I love I

738
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: don't know him personally, I love it. I love him.

739
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: Hats made the decision to go to live. Um. Every

740
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, he got paid, he's he's playing on DJ's team,

741
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: and everybody's just constant on social media saying he's a bomb,

742
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: he's a bomb, he's a bomba And I'm like, dude,

743
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: the guy played for twenty years on the PGA who

744
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: are never lost its card in the Tiger Phil era

745
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: to do that, I mean, people don't realize to have.

746
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: And very similar to the reason I bring it up,

747
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: like yourself, the career longevity that you had to start

748
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: starring in movies, you know, in the early eighties and

749
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: it's two you're still getting work. I mean that's that

750
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: would be a scene in Entourage that people would go

751
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: out that that kind of stuff doesn't happen. Yeah, yeah,

752
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I totally get by. I mean if it's

753
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: kind of like the movie industry back and they the

754
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: forties where the studios they're gonna pay you, you know

755
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, you get paid for doing you work

756
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: for them, and then you kind of but it's hard

757
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: to say no to that. And I really I don't.

758
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: I have nothing but respect for all those guys, and Uh,

759
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: I probably would do the same. You know. There's that

760
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: scene where you guys are on the floor at the

761
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: Laker game, and and and Ian and Vincent the characters

762
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: or something. He doesn't want to get type cast, and

763
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: and and a Jeremy Pipogos, but there's Batman and there's

764
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: the Joker wading around. He's a typecast. Is rich guys

765
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: right as billionaires or whatever have you are? Have you

766
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: been surprised, um, that Adrian who played Vince, has you know,

767
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: going in a different direction, um and has basically kind

768
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: of forged his own path away from the world that

769
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: you guys were all in. Not really, you know, Adrian

770
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: is is uh is a great guy, sensitive guy, and

771
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: he's a real he really cares about the environment a

772
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: lot as to why, but I have so much respect

773
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: for him because he's he's really doing something about it.

774
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: You know, you know I bought a tesla. That's not

775
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: really I I'm trying to do my part. But he's

776
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: out there trying to save the whales. He's trying to

777
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: clean up the ocean. He's trying to do all kinds

778
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: of things. And I I'm hoping to be more like

779
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: him as the future goes by and I'm gonna I'm

780
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: gonna do more. I love what he does and he's

781
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: you know, he's a great human being. Last Entourage question, Um,

782
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: not nuts. I don't care. I love it. Um, you

783
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: were the chef on the show. Um, talk to me

784
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: about your cooking skills. You have real cooking skills like

785
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: you did on the show. I do, man, I do.

786
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: I love to cook, But to be honest with you,

787
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: I didn't really I was okay before Entourage. I wanted

788
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: to learn to make really make it look like I

789
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: knew what I was doing. So I actually had a

790
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: body of mine. It was a chef teach me. Had

791
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: a chop You'll see I I you curb the fingered Ugh,

792
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: they're chopping. I'll I'll have everything going. I would wipe

793
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: the plates clean. These are little things that I would

794
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: do like that. I thought would be a real Johnny

795
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: drama that you know, wipe off the plate as he

796
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: serves Vince. You know, I wanted to Uh, I wanted

797
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: to make him this, you know, just the guy who

798
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: was over the top with the cooking. But I love

799
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: it and I've become better because of Johnny Drama. I

800
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: could I cook a mean meat ball. I can make

801
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, great bowling as little mac and cheese. I

802
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: don't mess around. I'm pretty good. Um. Wire room with

803
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: Bruce Willis. Um, he's a legend. Um. What was it

804
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: like working with Bruce? And obviously Bruce is going through

805
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: the issues health wise that he's going through, But to

806
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 1: to I spent a lost weekend in Manhattan with Bruce Willis.

807
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: He came to a golf school in Las Vegas with

808
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: a friend of the Carmines Azora. UM, my dad and

809
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: I at our golf school in Vegas. We taught him

810
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 1: and he was like, hey, we should stay in touch.

811
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: And it's like late nineties and but yeah, Bruce, let's

812
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: stay in touch. Like three weeks later he called me.

813
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: He goes in Philadelphia, I'm filming this movie The sixth Cents.

814
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: Do you want to come to New York and play

815
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: some golf. And I'm like, yeah, sure, So I go

816
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: to New York. Um. We end up that weekend playing

817
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: at Wingfoot with Donald Trump. Um. We played at Westchester

818
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: Country Club with Jack Nick Wilson and he went to

819
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: Game one. We went to Game one of the World

820
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: Series with Tino Martinez hit the Grand Slam against them,

821
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: the San Diego Padres and and I'm sitting there and

822
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, no one is ever going to believe this story.

823
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Spike Lee was there, and no. I mean,

824
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 1: that's that's amazing, man. How was it? Was? He pretty good?

825
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: Pretty he was Bruce Bruce Actually, you know he's left handed.

826
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: He hits it. You know, Bruce hits it pretty good.

827
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: I mean he's got a good swing. He's athletics. You know,

828
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: he still plays. I heard that. It's the one thing

829
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: he still he still plays, and he's I hear, he's

830
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: still pretty good. We didn't have days off on the

831
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: same at the same time, so we didn't get to

832
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: play together. I did work with them twice. I did

833
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: two movies with him. The first movie, I didn't have

834
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: any scenes with him. The second movie, of course, uh uh,

835
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: hot Wire Room we had a lot of stuff together,

836
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: and he's a great guy and he uh, it's it's

837
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: it's a tough time. He's going through it right now,

838
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 1: but he still gets it done. He was still good

839
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: in the movie, and he still enjoys golf, and he's

840
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: still uh, you know, he's got his boys with him,

841
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: and they every time they would go to do a movie,

842
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: that would go play a couple of rounds of golf.

843
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: And apparently he could still hit the ball. You know,

844
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: he looks great too. He's only Yeah, do you watch

845
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: a lot of golf? I mean, I'm always surprised at actor, celebrities,

846
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: athletes that how much golf do you watch? You know?

847
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: It depends right now, lately I have been watching as much.

848
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: But I mean i'll watch I won't miss a major.

849
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: I won't miss any major, so uh but most of

850
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: the time if it's on, it'll be between football and golf, right.

851
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: You know, I love golf. Favorite golf courses that you've

852
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: gotten to play? And what are some golf courses that

853
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: are on your kind of Johnny drama bucket list? Well,

854
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. You know, it's sounds wrong to say,

855
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: but Wingfoot is as good as a guess I can't

856
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: be as good as a game. I just I don't know.

857
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: It's just straight no bs, it's right there in front

858
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: of you. You know, take me if you can. Kind

859
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: of golf course, but I've had, you know. I played Pebble.

860
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: I love Pebble. Cypress Cypress is pretty pretty special. That

861
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: was good, really great. I still haven't been to Augusta.

862
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: I would love to play Augusta. I would love to

863
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: play Pine Valley. My dad was kind of a big

864
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: guy over a Pine Valley. They all know him. I

865
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: think you might have some portraits hanging up there or something.

866
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I would love to do Pine Valley.

867
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean I just love golf. So St

868
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: Andrew's gotta do. I did a bunch in Ireland. I did.

869
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: I love Ireland. But I used to a golf simulator.

870
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: It's called it was called a full swing golf simulator.

871
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember. We used it in

872
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: an entourage and I was like, hey, what does it

873
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: take for me to get a golf I want one

874
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: of these? And they're like, well, we could probably work

875
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: something out. So they flew me out to the Big

876
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: Golf Convention in Florida, and I got up there and uh,

877
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: they kind of broke down my swing. It was Jim Flick,

878
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: Jim McLean, sorry, Jim McLean. Yeah, it was Jim McClain

879
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: broke down my swing. Great guy. So I got up

880
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: on stage and I right away. I mean, I had

881
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 1: a nine iron into like and I put one pretty

882
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: close to the pin and he kind of did a

883
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: couple of tweaks. This is in front of a thousand people,

884
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: and I hit one even closer. I mean, what a

885
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 1: great guy. And so I did that, and they gave

886
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: me a full swing golf simulator. I put in my

887
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: garage and I played it for, you know, fifteen years,

888
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: ten years on the golf simulator. Great, great times. Who

889
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: are your favorite golfers to watch? I mean, who do

890
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: you watch? And you say, okay, I'm rooting for him.

891
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: M I want this guy to win. You know. It's weird,

892
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: but there are two of your guys. I believe Brooks, Yeah, Brooks.

893
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: I love Brooks. I've met him in l A. And

894
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: I love Brooks. I love his attitude. And and the

895
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: other one is Dustin Johnson and I know d J.

896
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: We met a long time ago through David David Winkler.

897
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: You know David, David Winkle a great guy. And so

898
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: we met and um, he met my dad, and my

899
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: dad hooked us up together, and uh we all had

900
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: you know, we went out to Houston, had brigs and

901
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: had a great time. But those two guys, I just

902
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: I love both of them. I love Rory, Love Rory McElroy.

903
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got my favorite golf swing of all time.

904
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: If I could have a golf swing, I take Rory.

905
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: You know what is um, Kevin, what's the current handicap

906
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: right now? Talk to me about your game? What's your handicap?

907
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: I haven't even I haven't even been posting my game

908
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: is I've been so out of the game for a

909
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: while because work has been great. The beginning of COVID,

910
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: like I said, it was terrible. The second half of COVID,

911
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: they ran out of stuff to watch, so they were like,

912
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: we gotta make movies, We gotta we gotta get some stuff,

913
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: some material out there. And I've been working NonStop. So

914
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: my game, I've never played as little golf as I

915
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: have this last couple of years. A year and a

916
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: half or so, and I'd probably be like a fifteen

917
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: I'm that bad. I mean, I'm terrible. I'm hitting him

918
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: off the hozzle right now. I mean it's bad. And

919
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: the rumor is you've got the shanks. Don't say that word.

920
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: You can't say yes word. I don't mind because I

921
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: got him. I mean, I already got him. But and

922
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: let me tell you about it. It's something that comes

923
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: back with me a lot because I get him and

924
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: they'll go away for a while, but they'll come up.

925
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: And I did this thing where with the Donald Trump

926
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: golf thing with Mark Wahlberg. I had the shanks during

927
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: that too, and it was bad dude, and on TV,

928
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: and it was like Mark asked me to do it.

929
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: I said, I can't do it, Mark, I I I played. Yeah,

930
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: I was at the range the other day. I had

931
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: twelve of them. I had twelve shanks. He's like, no, no,

932
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. We we will take control of it.

933
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: It was. It was the rough. It was one of

934
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: the worst moments ever to be what you say, you're

935
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: hitting checks you know, I was terrible. One are the

936
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: strengths of your game if you're playing all I could

937
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: be If I'm playing playing well, I could be a

938
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: good driver. I could get it out pretty far. Uh,

939
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: and I could be pretty consistent. I'm decent chopper, decent chopper.

940
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm usually bad putter, but I got this claw. I'm

941
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 1: working than the Yeah, what's the lowest round you've shot?

942
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: I shot a two wonder that Camario Springs I had.

943
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: I had six birdies four of minute row and uh,

944
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: I still have four bogies. But yeah, to tow other,

945
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: but I've shot even part a couple of It's for me.

946
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: L A is easy. You could go out there and

947
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: it's like, well, I'm playing public courses in l A.

948
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: It's not waying foot so I'm not I don't have

949
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: to you know, hit a flop shot up on the green.

950
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: I can I can see the pin right there. I

951
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: could get up and down. But yeah, I mean, uh yeah,

952
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: my my, my rounds in l A have gotten pretty low. Um. Lastly,

953
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: Kevin talked to me about what's what's the upcoming projects,

954
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: the things that you're really really exciting about. Where are

955
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: we going to be seeing you and uh, what what

956
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: do you have in the pipeline? Well, I got uh,

957
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: I got I gotta still got a bunch of things

958
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: going on. Like I said, I have the the Pilot,

959
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: which I think will go with Charlie Sheen and Kevin Connolly.

960
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: That's called uh ramble On. So I got that. I

961
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: got a Reagan movie with Dennis Quaid. Dennis quite plays

962
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. I play Jack Warner from Warner Brothers. That's

963
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: gonna be really cool. And I just got a text

964
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: from the producer today he said, just looking really good

965
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: that movie. Uh. It takes a lot of time because

966
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: there they have to age them down and then aide

967
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: them up. So Dennis was right in the middle for

968
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: both and they I don't know if they're aging me

969
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: or not or or I don't think they're messing with

970
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: me too much. But uh. And then I got, uh

971
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 1: the Buddy Games, Buddy Games to the sequel. It's gonna

972
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: be great. It's hilarious. Well, we've got to get together.

973
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 1: I can help you with your golf whenever, and uh,

974
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: we'll get together. And um if I get to l

975
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: a UM, I'm gonna take you up on the offer

976
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: to be on on the podcast. I just joined, uh

977
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: a golf course called Sati Koi, which is a really

978
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: nice golf course too, So maybe you could get out

979
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: there and tee it up. But I love to have

980
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: you on Victory the podcast and thank you for having

981
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: me as a guest. I've had a great time. And

982
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 1: you you now have something in common with my father.

983
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: My my father grew up at Wingfoot. I don't know

984
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: if you know, but they were just the brothers were

985
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: just up there um for the Anderson and unbeknownst to

986
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: my dad, they made them honorary members. And they did

987
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: this while my dad and his brothers were speaking, and um,

988
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 1: they said. My dad was crying. And he immediately sent

989
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: me a picture of his little um honorary member plaque.

990
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: And he's so excited about it. So I'll let him

991
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: know that. And um, you know, he was a big

992
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: fan of the show. And man, thank you so much.

993
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: It's uh. I've done a lot of cool things, but

994
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: to get an opportunity to to to speak to you

995
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: as uh, it's a huge, huge thing for me and

996
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: great talking to you. Man, it's great talking to you.

997
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: I love what you do and and I love golf

998
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 1: and all your guys keep killing it. Man. We gotta

999
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: get you out to come out to some tour events. Oh,

1000
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: I would love to. I would love to. Let's do it.

1001
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: Thanks Kevin. Thank you. So that was Kevin Dillon and UM,

1002
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean he's it's almost like he is Johnny Drama

1003
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: the character. But um, what a cool guy to talk

1004
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: to and you know, certainly one of the highlights of

1005
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: my life getting chance to talk to him talk about Entourage. Um,

1006
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: it's a show that uh was huge for me. I

1007
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: lived in l A and Uh, I'll be honest. I

1008
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: got back and watch it. I'm sure everybody else does too.

1009
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: So really really glad to have Kevin on and UM,

1010
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna get him. We're gonna work on his golf swing.

1011
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: I can't have him having the shanks. So PJ Tour

1012
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: started last week unfortunate finish for Danny Willett, but what

1013
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: an amazing chip in Maxima who wins again. And then

1014
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: on the live Cam Smith and DJ duking it out

1015
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: down the stretch and Cam Smith wins and listen, golf

1016
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 1: is golf, whether it's on the PGA Tour, whether it's

1017
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: on the Live Tour. Um, there are players playing golf.

1018
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: I was at the Live Tour last week with DJ.

1019
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: UM I watched Camp Smith play. Um, he's doing the

1020
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: same thing on live that he was doing on the

1021
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: PGA Tour, which is playing unbelievable golf. This guy's putting

1022
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: in short game is about as good as anything that

1023
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: you can find right now anywhere in the world. And UM,

1024
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: if there was a major next week, our major this week,

1025
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: I think you'd see camp Smith in contention. I think

1026
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: you'd see Dustin Johnson in contention. I think you'd see

1027
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: Roy McElroy in contention. UM. I think you'd see the

1028
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: best players in the world get into contention in big tournaments.

1029
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's to me, that's what's

1030
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: being overlooked by this whole you know, live versus the

1031
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: PGA Tour thing. Um. At the end of the day,

1032
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: it's golf, and whether you're watching the PGA Tour, you're

1033
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: watching live, you're going to see great players hitting great

1034
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 1: shots and playing great golf. And I think that's what

1035
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: we all want. A huge week this week the President's Cup. UM,

1036
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I mean, I think there are some

1037
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: guys um that should be there, both on the American

1038
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 1: team and the international team, UM, that are not allowed

1039
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: to be there. UM. I thought that, UM. Matt Fitzpatrick,

1040
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: the reigning US Open champion, who played on the last

1041
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 1: Ryder Cup team for Europe. UM. I thought his comments

1042
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 1: about the Ryder Cup. Um, we're pretty interesting. He said,

1043
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: I just want to win the Ryder Cup. So in

1044
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: my opinion, I want to be a part of the

1045
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: team myself, but I want the eleven best guys we

1046
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: can get on the team. And UM, I think the

1047
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: team competitions should be the best players. And UM, I

1048
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: don't know if this President's Up team will have a

1049
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: little bit of an astric Um. I feel unbelievably sorry

1050
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: for Trevor Immelman. Um, he's a friend. We had him

1051
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: on the podcast and try and get him on the

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Speaker 1: podcast after. Um the President's Cup because listen, it's hard

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Speaker 1: for their international team. They've never beaten the American team

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Speaker 1: and and they want to have their best players, and

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Speaker 1: um they don't. Uh they they're not allowed to pick them.

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Speaker 1: And the U S side is is missing some of

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Speaker 1: their best players as well. So, UM, they should be

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Speaker 1: playing and I think the best teams should be there.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people will disagree, but that's

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Speaker 1: my opinion and it's my damn podcast, so UM, I'm

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Speaker 1: putting it out there. Uh so, but excited. Um, the

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Speaker 1: team competition always good. Um, the international team kind of

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Speaker 1: banded together down in Melbourne last time and you know

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Speaker 1: got it pretty close. Took a pretty big rally from

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Speaker 1: the U S team to get that win. Can Trevor

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Speaker 1: Immilman rally? Uh, the troops that he has on that team,

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Speaker 1: can they make a run? Um? But team competition, it's

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Speaker 1: always great and U it's always great to see how

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Speaker 1: these matchups match up on the golf course. So I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to watch it, and I know everybody else is too.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody for listening. We've got some

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Speaker 1: great podcasts. Um if you haven't gone back and checked

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Speaker 1: out past episodes, there are a lot of good ones

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Speaker 1: out there, so please check them out. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank everyone for listening. And Son of a Book comes

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Speaker 1: to you every Wednesday. We will see you next week.