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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: The porn side Only Fans seems to be sweeping the

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Speaker 2: country in popularity. But for you legal eagles, this is

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Speaker 2: what you need to know. The so called OnlyFans killer

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Speaker 2: model Courtney Cleane as now seen in bodycam video begging

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Speaker 2: to see the Crypto Trader boyfriend she just stabbed dead

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Speaker 2: and tells cops she tried to save his life despite

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Speaker 2: her being scared. Excuse me, you're the one with the knife, lady.

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Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: being with us. The Only Fans model Courtney Cline covered

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Speaker 2: in blood after allegedly stabbing her boyfriend and begging paramedics

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Speaker 2: to save him after the attack. This is all discovered

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Speaker 2: on newly least bodycam footage. Clinty twenty seven, now facing

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Speaker 2: murder charges in the deadly stabbing of her Crypto Trader boyfriend,

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Speaker 2: Christian am Buselli. They were at their luxury Miami apartment

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Speaker 2: when the murder occurred. The new video shows the moment

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Speaker 2: cops enter the apartment to find the Only Fans model,

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Speaker 2: and I use that in the loosest sense of the word,

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Speaker 2: cradling her victim and crying.

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Speaker 1: Baby, baby, baby, wake.

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Speaker 2: Up and no, no, no no. As police try to

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Speaker 2: move her away. She was covered in blood head to toe,

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Speaker 2: wearing drenched sweatpants and said I can't let this happen

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Speaker 2: and quickly it wasn't me as cops pull her hands

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Speaker 2: behind her neck and cuff her. This is all on

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Speaker 2: bodycam video. While speaking to police, as paramedics try to

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Speaker 2: save the boy friend, she says, I'm terrified for him

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Speaker 2: and I was quote so scared. I'm covered in his

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Speaker 2: blood because I was trying to save him. I need him.

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Speaker 2: He's my other half. Well guess what, lady, your other

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Speaker 2: half is dead? What exactly happened?

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Speaker 1: Listen our friends WSVN.

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Speaker 3: A bloody Sunday domestic killing inside a trendy Miami high rise.

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Speaker 4: I think everybody is in shah actually, like claberdapted.

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Speaker 3: These images come courtesy of TMZ The Sparkling One Putty

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Speaker 3: is so condominium is where it got violent days ago,

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Speaker 3: and now a twenty seven year old man is dead

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Speaker 3: and his family is devastating. Courtney Clenney, a famous Instagram model,

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Speaker 3: is who Miami Policay was involved in a physical altercation

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Speaker 3: with Obumselli, who was stabbed.

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Speaker 2: Wow, the way they said that the sparkling one Paraiso condominium.

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Speaker 2: That proves it doesn't matter where you live, or how

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Speaker 2: much money you have, or education or what color you

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Speaker 2: are doesn't matter. Crime can and we'll find its way

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Speaker 2: into your life. An Only Fans model now charged with murder?

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Speaker 2: How the hey is this twisted around to where she

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Speaker 2: is the victim? Take a listen nowt to our friends

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Speaker 2: at WPLG.

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Speaker 5: Following the stabbing, Clenny was detained. She was brought here

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Speaker 5: to the police department for questioning, and during that process

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Speaker 5: she was threatening to kill herself, so officers took her

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Speaker 5: to the hospital where she was baker acted.

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Speaker 6: Detectives revealed Christian Obumselli was stabbed during an argument inside

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Speaker 6: their luxury Miami apartment in April. After the stabbing, video

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Speaker 6: obtained by TMZ shows Clenny handcuffed and covered in blood

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Speaker 6: sitting on the floor. Clenny was not charged during the

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Speaker 6: initial investigation.

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Speaker 1: What not charged?

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Speaker 2: She's sitting on the balcony of a high rise translation,

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Speaker 2: nobody went in or came out high rise balcony covered

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Speaker 2: and her boyfriend blood and she's not charged? What because

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Speaker 2: she's pretty and has a big bosom? Is that why

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Speaker 2: she's not charged? Okay, she's what too pretty for jail?

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Speaker 2: Did you hear that earlier part? You know, I want

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Speaker 2: to go.

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Speaker 1: To you, Charlie Langston, female editor.

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Speaker 2: That's Fie m Ai l at dailymail dot com.

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Speaker 1: But I've got to just go to doctor Charles Heller.

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Speaker 2: Heller, clinical forensic psychologist, specializing in domestic violence. He's at

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Speaker 2: Rutger's Biomedical and Health Sciences. Doctor Heller, is there a

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Speaker 2: clinical term for drama queen? The boyfriend is stabbed dead

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Speaker 2: and then she's what hyperventilating in her push up bra

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Speaker 2: on the balcony covered in his blood, and she threatens

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Speaker 2: to kill herself. Yeah, of course she didn't kill herself.

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Speaker 1: But just what's the word for that? Historyonic?

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Speaker 2: I guess I bet you've got a really big word

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Speaker 2: for drama.

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Speaker 7: Well, we could start with narcissism. We could go to

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Speaker 7: antisocial personality, disorder, borderline personality. Also, there's a strange addiction

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Speaker 7: that people have to other people, quote codependency, and I

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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, hold on, I've got something to throw

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Speaker 2: them on. Doctor Heller with me is a renowned expert,

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Speaker 2: doctor Charles Heller, forensic psychologist at Rockland County Chief Forensic

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Speaker 2: Consultant and at Rutger's Biomedical. That's not shabby, doctor Heller.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you can put this in the correct clinical terms.

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Speaker 2: But I've had friend girls in the past. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: He's boring. I'm like, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: You've dated all these losers who stand you up, who

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Speaker 2: cheat on you. They're drinkers, they do drugs, they're unemployed,

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Speaker 2: then they're employed. You know, they yell at your children.

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Speaker 1: You go up and down and up and down. You

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Speaker 2: When you are so addicted to the roller coaster of

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Speaker 2: finally get a nice guy that works for a living,

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Speaker 2: comes home and takes you out to dinner, that's boring.

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Speaker 2: You don't want red lobster anymore. You want to go

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Speaker 2: have a fight in the parking lot.

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Speaker 1: What is that?

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Speaker 7: Well, first of all, that kind of person also has

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Speaker 7: an addiction, an addictive personality, and they crave a certain

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Speaker 7: and being close to another person like that is what

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Speaker 2: Did you think it's not necessarily a personality trait? But

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Speaker 2: they're conditioned to it. They're used to the highs and

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Speaker 1: You're like, wow, is he with a hooker?

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Speaker 2: I mean, when you're used to that and then you

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Speaker 2: that that would be a personality trait. It could be

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Speaker 1: You're used to.

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Speaker 2: Like children that grow up in a violent home, they're

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Speaker 2: really not happy until they are in a violent home

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Speaker 7: Well, code dependency is a family disease, just like alcoholism,

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Speaker 7: and it starts in the family you grew up in.

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Speaker 2: Yeahs, you're hearing doctor Charles Heller and I haven't even

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Speaker 1: We have an all star panel with us.

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Speaker 2: But I just had to go to doctor heller about

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Speaker 2: this woman the only fans model and no Charlie Langston,

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Speaker 2: editor of Female Femail at dailymail dot com. Charlie, how

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Speaker 2: is it He's did from multiple stablins on the floor

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Speaker 8: Really, she is claiming that he was stabbed in self defense.

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Speaker 8: She claims that he grabbed her by the throat and

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Speaker 8: that she grabbed the knife to defend herself. However, I

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Speaker 8: should point out the cops who went to the apartment

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Speaker 8: and said that there was absolutely no evidence of any

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Speaker 8: her claim that he grabbed her by the throat. If

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Speaker 8: he did that and left not a single mock, it

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Speaker 8: can't have been violent enough in my opinion, to warrant

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Speaker 8: a response with a knife.

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Speaker 2: Brad and Micklin is joining us, guys. He is a

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Speaker 2: very high profile lawyer joining us, Lead attorney, managing member

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Speaker 2: at the Micklan Law Group, joining us.

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Speaker 1: Out of New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: You can find him at Micklinlawgroup dot com. Brad, I

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Speaker 2: hate a lot of aspects regarding criminal defendants, but one

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Speaker 2: thing I really hate, and this is having defended battered

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Speaker 2: women for many, many years and work as a volunteer

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Speaker 2: for nearly ten years at the Batter Women's Center. I

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Speaker 2: hate when women aggressors, women bullies, women killers use the

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Speaker 2: because people hear about it, and then when.

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Speaker 1: They're sitting on a jury with a real battered woman,

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Speaker 1: they go, oh, this is bs. See what I mean.

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Speaker 9: I agree, it's supposed to be a shield, a protection

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Speaker 9: battered women's syndrome, the domestic violence protection orders, but people

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Speaker 9: use it as a weapon, and then when the victim

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Speaker 9: is dead and can't defend himself, it's an easy defense

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Speaker 9: to use. I mean, your whole conversation with doctor Heller

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Speaker 9: before was implicitly saying Christian was to blame, that she

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Speaker 9: already talking about what did he do, what was his

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Speaker 9: stabbed them, and everything that was recorded and shown shows

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Speaker 9: that she goes from common to rage and nothing more.

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Speaker 2: On the other hand, you really can't ignore the statistics

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Speaker 2: so typically overwhelmingly, like ninety plus percent of the time,

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Speaker 2: it is the male that is the aggressor. I can't

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Speaker 2: avoid that truth, and that's a truth we've got to

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Speaker 1: But speaking of Herbie, the vistas the.

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Speaker 9: Truth unless you accept that stat well, I didn't start

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Speaker 9: to support anything.

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Speaker 1: Well, I usually stay with the Department of Justice. And

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Speaker 1: should I believe you? Micquelin, are my lion eyes.

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Speaker 2: I know what I saw in court every day for

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Speaker 2: ten straight years plus. I know what I saw at

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Speaker 2: Grady Memorial Hospital where all the beat up women go.

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Speaker 1: I know what I saw at the Battered.

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Speaker 2: Women's Center, night after night after night of battered women.

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Speaker 1: So you are my lion eyes. Let me think about that.

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Speaker 9: Well, don't look. I tell you that women are often

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Speaker 9: significant victims of the mesk of violence, but that doesn't

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Speaker 9: negate the fact that justice. Many men are too. Just

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Speaker 9: more of them are.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you're smoking, man, but I'm not

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Speaker 2: getting near it. So the claim that she is the victim.

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Speaker 2: Take listen now to our cut ten. This is our friends.

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Speaker 2: These are our friends at Fox seven and WPLG.

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Speaker 10: Behind closed doors. We just started hearing some shouting, yelling.

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Speaker 10: We don't know who was starting what. We didn't get

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Speaker 10: a lot of contacts. Occasionally we would hear some glasses

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Speaker 10: break and some banging on.

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Speaker 1: The walls, floors.

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Speaker 10: Not sure you know who is doing it. I just

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Speaker 10: want people to know that it had been going on

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Speaker 10: for a long time and it definitely could have been stopped.

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Speaker 5: When police reported that Obumseelli was fatally stabbed by Clannie

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Speaker 5: on Sunday inside their Miami apartment, the friends were left speechless.

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Speaker 5: They portray a very violent relationship at the hands of

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Speaker 11: We've seen her hit him. I've never seen him hit her.

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Speaker 2: But regardless of what friends and neighbors insist to be true,

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Speaker 2: somehow the Only Fans model is being painted as the victim.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen to our friends at WPLG.

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Speaker 1: Her lawyers sent me this statement.

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Speaker 6: It reads in part of them Celly attacked her and

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Speaker 6: choked her that evening. Courtney had no choice but to

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Speaker 6: meet force with force. In April and told Local ten

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Speaker 6: he had a clear view of the couple's apartment and

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Speaker 6: saw Clenty getting physically abused.

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Trust me.

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Speaker 2: Bodycam video of the date of the so called OnlyFans

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Speaker 2: murder will be admitted into evidence in front of a jury.

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Speaker 12: Listen to this, Talk to me what is going on?

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Speaker 1: What do you are you gonna get this out of me?

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Speaker 2: editor of Female What did I just hear? I heard

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Speaker 1: He's going, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. What was that all about?

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Speaker 8: So what you were hearing? There was a recording that

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Speaker 2: Did you say call him the N word? Well, he's black,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, Charlie Langston.

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Speaker 14: Yeh man, oh man, because I'm.

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Speaker 11: Telling you I don't know your phone is.

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Speaker 8: Fine it do you help me find it?

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Speaker 13: I man, man, your man.

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Speaker 1: Your man? Yeah a man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah man, Okay, sadly you're gonna hear more.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I need to mind it because I have to

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Speaker 2: Okay, put on your seabell because there's a lot more

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Speaker 2: joining me. Dan Corsantino, former police chief, former sheriff, served

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Speaker 1: But what do you make of what you're hearing right now?

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Speaker 1: To this degree? What's happening? And he is upstabed.

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Speaker 15: Dead well to me, obviously, it's a very dysfunctional relationship

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to absorb everything that you just said because

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Speaker 1: Charlie Langston, what about it? Did you hear what Corsantino

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Speaker 5: I did?

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Speaker 1: And did you see.

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Speaker 2: That picture Charlie Charlie Langston joining us from daily mail

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Speaker 1: I police get there, okay, and the dog.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's commented on that, but I mean there it is

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Speaker 1: Do you see this?

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Speaker 8: I did, and I think it's in.

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Speaker 1: Your article, Charlie Man. I'm looking right at it.

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Speaker 8: And it I mean, it's unbelievably shocking, and I.

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Speaker 2: Think, I mean, the cops are coming, so hey, just

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Speaker 8: Well, and I think you know, the image that was portrayed,

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Speaker 8: she could be responsible. There's no way that she could

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Speaker 2: Or is someone that killed their boyfriend in an angry

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Speaker 1: Neither she cared. Nos, the cops are there, so she

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Speaker 2: I don't know what effect that's going to have on

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Speaker 1: Flights of stairs, But that said, there it is.

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Speaker 2: That's something for the jury to mul joining me Doctor

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Speaker 2: Todd M. Barr, board certified anatomic Clinical forensic Pathologists joining

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Speaker 2: us out of Ohio. Featured in Thin Places Essays from

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Speaker 2: in Between and you can find them on Twitter at

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Speaker 2: Todd Barr MA. That stands for Medical Examiner doctor Barr.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of this copious amount of blood

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Speaker 14: Well, yeah, Nancy, I'm looking at the crime scene photos and.

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Speaker 14: Well there's that, but I'm that too. The picture of

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Speaker 1: And the fact you know which artery the carotid, Well.

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Speaker 14: If he was stabbed shoulder, yeah, it's probably the subclavian

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute, I'm just a JD. You're the MD.

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Speaker 2: We only we typically hear of the carotid in the

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Speaker 14: And subclavian is what comes off of the order that

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Speaker 1: You'll subclavian now clavicle is this right?

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Speaker 14: Uh? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jackie, Doctor Jackie saying yes, So sub means below

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Speaker 2: that there's an artery there and the brak you'll artery

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Speaker 14: Yeah, So all of those blood vessels and all the

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Speaker 1: You mean she stabbed him in an artery? Is that

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's exactly what that means.

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Speaker 2: Artery is more like have you ever driven by a

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Speaker 14: Exactly, that's our tear.

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Speaker 1: That's a stab in the artery.

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Speaker 14: That's exactly right. It's under intense high pressure. Every time

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Speaker 2: Haven't I told you you need to do an audio book.

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Speaker 1: It looks like a Halloween costume. It does.

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Speaker 13: I was going on a bike ride, just gonna make

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Speaker 15: Corney.

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Speaker 13: I was on the bike ride and she passed me

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Speaker 13: that doesn't make you to act.

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Speaker 1: In com yes, thinking yeah, operated.

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Speaker 16: One, ma'am, listen to me.

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Speaker 1: You need to stop.

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Speaker 15: Stilling on the line and give me the address.

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Speaker 4: One taking my arm, one on one in my arm,

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Speaker 4: what man, but my brid ma'am, what is the address?

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Speaker 4: Please do come to my head.

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Speaker 2: You're hearing at the beginning more screaming, and you also

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Speaker 2: The star of the whole trial, her nine one one call,

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Speaker 1: The dispatch says, you got to stop.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna die. I want to ask you, Charlie Lankson.

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Speaker 2: We endured together the Johnny Depp amber her trial, and

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Speaker 1: Saying, why would she.

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Speaker 2: Was she starting an argument with him and then videoing

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 2: why is he Christian o'mselli audio taping the argument where

442
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: she's physically attacking him because some woman rode by him

443
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: on a bike and said hi to me.

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Speaker 8: The fact that he was recording her is evidence that

445
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 8: their relationship had been abusive for a very long time.

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00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 8: There's also other evidence to.

447
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Speaker 1: Back that up.

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00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 8: You've got neighbors talking about smashing things. She had been

449
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 8: arrested previously for domestic violence, and I think he knew

450
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Speaker 8: that the face that she was showing to the world

451
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 8: was a very different face than the one that he

452
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 8: saw behind the scenes, and he knew that in order

453
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Speaker 8: to protect himself, he needed to make these recordings so

454
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Speaker 8: that he would have evidence if he ever got into

455
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 8: a situation where she tried to flip the script and

456
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Speaker 8: say that he had been a youth. And the devastating

457
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 8: thing is these recordings will now serve as evidence, but

458
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 8: not to protect him. They will serve as evidence in

459
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Speaker 8: a murder trial.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

461
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Speaker 2: Welcome Back, everybody and only fans model now charged with

462
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Speaker 2: murder in the brutal stabbing death of her boyfriend. The

463
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: so called model also told investigators the boyfriend pushed her

464
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: and threw her to the floor, that she then grabbed

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Speaker 2: a knife and threw it at the victim from about

466
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Speaker 2: ten feet away, but the medical examiner says, uh, no way.

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00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: The emmy that performed the autopsy says the victims wounds

468
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: could not have been caused by a knife thrown from

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Speaker 2: that distance. The body of victim Christian and Buselli taken

470
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: from the Miami apartment directly to the medical Examiner's office.

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Speaker 2: Released nine one one. Audio following the brutal stabbing reveals

472
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Speaker 2: the suspect telling her lover baby, I'm so sorry. This

473
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: is right after she plunges the knife into his body. Now,

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Speaker 2: she didn't tell nine one one she stabbed the boyfriend,

475
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: but she sobbed and sobbed to him about how quote

476
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Speaker 2: sorry she was. In the background, you can actually hear

477
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: twenty seven year old Christian crying, I can't feel my arm.

478
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Speaker 2: I don't know how the jury's going to stand seeing

479
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: and hearing this that day turns deadly. It tells me

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Speaker 2: he was abuse so often he finally started recording it.

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Speaker 7: These people were addicted to each other. She was really inappropriate,

482
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Speaker 7: and she was very jealous. Anytime he looked at someone,

483
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 7: she probably would have a fit, a bad one.

484
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: You know, I don't get that.

485
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: You know when my husband go jogging for a walk

486
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: and a woman goes by and he glances over, and

487
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, good, I'm glad to say, you're still alive, David,

488
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: keep going excuse your blood still pumping through your veins.

489
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think of yelling and beating him because he

490
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Speaker 2: spoke to some lady.

491
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Speaker 1: Just it's so twisted up.

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Speaker 2: But to you, Brad Micklin, high profile lawyer at the

493
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Speaker 2: Micklin Law Group, this is exactly what leads up something

494
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Speaker 2: as stupid as saying hi to a woman going by

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Speaker 2: on a bike to murder.

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Speaker 1: It's insane.

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Speaker 9: It is insane, and we keep having this conversation about

498
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Speaker 9: him being addicted to her or the relationship being abusive. No,

499
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 9: she was abusive. She stabbed them. And I think Christian

500
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 9: was recorded as because he knew or feared that she

501
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 9: would call the police one day, say he was committing

502
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Speaker 9: domestic violence. He would be arrested for it, and him,

503
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 9: being bigger and stronger, would have no defense. So we

504
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 9: start to record it to defend himself, which unfortunately he

505
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 9: can't do any longer. And I hope that they're used

506
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Speaker 9: in a criminal trial to show just.

507
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Speaker 7: How violent she was.

508
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: Okay, guys, uh, her claim that.

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Speaker 2: She's the victim, Well, this is not going to help.

510
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: This is body cam footage and you know what that means.

511
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: That means the cops have arrived. This was a previous event.

512
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Speaker 11: Listen, yes, yes, why do you.

513
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: Stop?

514
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: It's everybody talking on top of each other. But we

515
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: hear her and this is to a cup. I do

516
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: not advise speaking down to or being belligerent to a cup.

517
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: No, what's happening there, Charlie Langston.

518
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Speaker 8: So this was recorded the day before Albam Sully was

519
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 8: stabbed and the cops were called to her apartment building.

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00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 8: She claims that she had thrown Abam Selly out of

521
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 8: their apartment the week before that they had broken up,

522
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 8: and she accused him of stalking her, and she demanded

523
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 8: that the cops give her a restraining order. The interesting

524
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 8: thing is you can hear her in one recording telling

525
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 8: the cops I need a restraining order before he gets one,

526
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Speaker 8: which suggests to me that she knew that he had

527
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Speaker 8: a full claim to accuse her of the same kind

528
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Speaker 8: of abuse that she was attempting to accuse him off.

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Speaker 1: Oh there you go, dueling with training orders. But the

530
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: thing here is she's claiming he's stalking her.

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Speaker 2: Other reports are he was trying to just get back

532
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: in the apartment where they both lived. Well there's more. Uh,

533
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: you know this should be assigned to her defense attorney.

534
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: Don't let her on the stand. Take a listen to

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Speaker 2: this more body cam footage.

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Speaker 1: I see in my apartment all day.

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Speaker 8: I didn't take my dog's house for like eight hours because.

538
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 11: I was afraid that when I came down here. Do

539
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Speaker 11: you know I didn't do I want the dogs?

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't you just want to get Do you have

541
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Speaker 1: any property in your apartment?

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Speaker 15: House?

543
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: Kiss so much to his respect. I just I just

544
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Speaker 1: feel like I'm not being heard.

545
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Speaker 11: So I had a lot of opportunities.

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Speaker 10: And I did not.

547
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Speaker 11: So when I when he's following around his hols hurt,

548
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 11: I said, there is no your time is out.

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00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 9: There like that, my dad's there, and I.

550
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Speaker 15: Said a shelter when I.

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00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 11: Was show reverse and I shoved and I said, show

552
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 11: me like. I really got angry because I did not.

553
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: I only did to see my dogs.

554
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: Okay, So basically she's saying I was afraid I want

555
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: to take my dogs out, but I couldn't. But it

556
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: sounds like she actually did and that he got on

557
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: the elevator. And her complaint is he quote smells like

558
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: a homeless shelter. Okay, so she stabbed him.

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00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: There's more. Listen.

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00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: This is what Charlie Langston was telling us. She wants

561
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: to get a restraining order against him before he can

562
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Speaker 2: do it.

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00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: To her, listener, I'm feeling alright, So what do you

564
00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: what do you?

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00:34:59,560 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 4: What do you want?

566
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Speaker 11: I just want to I want to be like I'm

567
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 11: trying to be like like anything wrong, and I want him.

568
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: I want a restraining order against Christianity's So I'm very important.

569
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Speaker 1: Can I do that? Can I make myself first, because

570
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: I know him and you would do it.

571
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 11: How can I mean myself first?

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00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 9: You got to get there first, persons.

573
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: It's the only way, the only idea. We don't even

574
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: know how it looks like, you know who it is.

575
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 4: How do we know that?

576
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Okay, Charlie Lyson more of the same.

577
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: But here we hear her stating that she wants to

578
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: get him before he gets her.

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Speaker 1: What more do you believe is revealed in these tapes?

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think there are so many different recordings

581
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 8: that focus on her abusive, erratic behavior, and it just

582
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 8: proves that the dynamic in the relationship was large from

583
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 8: what we hear her berating and abusing him. As we

584
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 8: heard earlier, friends of the couple stated very clearly that

585
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 8: they saw Clennie hit Obamselly, they never saw the violence

586
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 8: being returned. We also had video footage from inside the

587
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 8: elevator of their apartment building months before Abbamselly was stabbed,

588
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 8: but showed Clennie beating him, pulling his hair, and all

589
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 8: he does is cover away an attempt to defend himself.

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Speaker 2: To Dan Corsentino, joining US Foreign Police Chief Sheriff, US

591
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: Online Security Advisor private investigator at Dan Corsentino dot Com.

592
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: Elevator video, it really came to the forefront in the

593
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Speaker 2: Rice case where you see him and this is a

594
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: professional football player dragging the victim, a female victim by

595
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Speaker 2: her hair, out of the elevator. And then of course

596
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Speaker 2: there was the famous or should I say infamous Beyonce

597
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Speaker 2: video where you see.

598
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Speaker 1: Her sister lie into.

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00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: Beyonce's husband jay Z like there's no tomorrow and I

600
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: guarantee you.

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Speaker 1: Going out on a limb here.

602
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 2: He deserved it because she just stood there like mm

603
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Speaker 2: hmmm while her sister was beating him up. Elevator footage,

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Speaker 2: nobody can suppress it. It's in a public place, so

605
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: it's fair game, and the elevator footage in this case

606
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Speaker 2: is damning for her.

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00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 15: Absolutely. In this case, she is demonstrative, she's aggressive, she

608
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 15: is violent, and she's attacking. Then what we see, let's

609
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 15: compare the size of the two. She appears to be

610
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 15: about five foot two. He appears to be at least

611
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 15: five to ten, maybe a little bit taller, somewhat buff,

612
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 15: but very good shape, and he was on the defensive.

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00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 15: In this case. An elevator video is very clear that

614
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 15: she is a violent offender that attacked him, and he

615
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 15: was trying to protect himself from everything she was attempting

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00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 15: to do. Strike him in the head, strike him in

617
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Speaker 15: the chest, strike him in the arm. Very very definitive.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Charles Heller joining us, a clinical forensic psychologist.

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Speaker 1: Why is it so hard for people to.

620
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Speaker 2: Believe that a man can be the victim and domestic violence?

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Speaker 16: Well, it goes against the stereotypes basically, but he could

622
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Speaker 16: not leave her even though she was violent with him, jealous,

623
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Speaker 16: making up imaginary.

624
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Speaker 7: Things about him, And that's codependency, that's dual addiction. And

625
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 7: what happens is basically, it's so strong, the bond is

626
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 7: so strong, and in metaphor metaphoric terms, the pegs in

627
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Speaker 7: his head matched exis actually the holes in her head.

628
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 7: They were bonded so tightly together that they couldn't extricate themselves.

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Speaker 7: He couldn't leave her and she couldn't leave him.

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Speaker 2: You know, the officers really hit the nail on the head.

631
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Speaker 2: Take a listen to our friends at WPLG are cut

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Speaker 2: thirty four.

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Speaker 5: Also informing her that she's not being clear on what

634
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Speaker 5: she wants.

635
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Speaker 1: You want this person to completely disappear.

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Speaker 9: From your life.

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Speaker 8: At the same time, you have n't in your apartment

638
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Speaker 8: here for two months without ton.

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00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: Of stuff in here, I know.

640
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 5: Clinny goes back to her apartment. Officers then go to

641
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Speaker 5: the employee who made the original call, telling him she

642
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 5: never disclosed that there was violence that particular night.

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Speaker 1: That's that's my one right.

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Speaker 5: But she didn't mention none of that until she says

645
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Speaker 5: she wants to do something about it, so we can

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Speaker 5: get so we can so we that's where we step

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Speaker 5: in and where it's a criminal activity.

648
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Speaker 1: But she needs to mention something about that.

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Speaker 8: Okay.

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Speaker 14: Unfortunately we can't do anything.

651
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Speaker 2: So she calls cops over there, but then doesn't do

652
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Speaker 2: doesn't go forward with any type of action. Brad Micklin

653
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Speaker 2: with me, high profile lawyer out of New Jersey.

654
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: Brad, where do you believe this whole thing will end?

655
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Speaker 2: And you apparently firmly believe men can be the victims

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Speaker 2: of domestic violence.

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Speaker 9: Men are the victims of domestic violence. Just like doctor

658
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Speaker 9: Heller said, they are stereotypically afraid to call and report it.

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Speaker 9: I mean, can you imagine if Christian had picked up

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Speaker 9: the phone and said, my little girlfriend Courtney is beating

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Speaker 9: me up, I need a restraining order. He would have

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Speaker 9: been laughed at. But this case from a criminal standpoint,

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Speaker 9: really hinges on whether or not these audios and the

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Speaker 9: video of the elevator get in or not, because they

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Speaker 9: are so prejudicial that there is some chance that they

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Speaker 9: that they roll, that they can't be used against her,

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Speaker 9: and that I think is going to turn in this case.

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Speaker 2: He's tuning up and I expect to hear the full

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Speaker 2: symphony at trial. Charlie Langston, Dailymail dot Com.

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Speaker 8: What's next, Well, now we wait for how to go

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Speaker 8: on trial. She's currently in custody waiting the start of

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Speaker 8: her trial, and it will be very interesting to see

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Speaker 8: whether or not she is put on the stand, because

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Speaker 8: if her behavior that we've heard in these recordings is

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Speaker 8: anything to go by, she's not going to be a

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Speaker 8: solid or reliable witness. She's proven herself to be incredibly erratic,

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Speaker 8: as you said, Nancy, belligerent towards authority figures, and I

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Speaker 8: don't know whether what she's potentially going to say on

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Speaker 8: the stand will help her.

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Speaker 2: And happier times, the two look so full of joy,

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Speaker 2: But prosecutors say Christian's death was the culmination of a

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Speaker 2: tempestuous and combative relationship, and from what we're learning, it's

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Speaker 2: largely due to her Now, Clinty was arrested in Hawaii

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Speaker 2: back in August and is a waiting trial. She planed

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Speaker 2: not guilty to a new charge of interception of wire

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Speaker 2: communications related to the murder. This new charge stems from

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Speaker 2: a bombshell revelation that her parents, Kim and Deborah Clinny,

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Speaker 2: were arrested in connection with the murder. Kim Clinty accused

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Speaker 2: of taking the boyfriend Crypto Trader's computer from the murder

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Speaker 2: scene in Miami after it was missed by investigators. He

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Speaker 2: then allegedly accessed it with a password supplied by his daughter,

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Speaker 2: and according to arrest warrants, detectors recovered text messages where

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Speaker 2: the parents discuss trying to get access to Christian's computer. Now,

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Speaker 2: the dad reportedly hinted the computer over to the defense

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Speaker 2: team after finding nothing on it but a crypto exchange.

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Speaker 2: That's according to TMZ, but he was arrested along with

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Speaker 2: his wife for evidence tampering. The Only Fans Model Court.

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Speaker 2: Clinney has a long history of domestic battery back in Vegas,

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Speaker 2: and police recall to the couple's home in Austin, Texas,

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Speaker 2: on several occasions as well, we wait as just as

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Speaker 2: unfalse goodbye friend,