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Speaker 4: Welcome everyone, Kentucky Sports Radio. Monday, December one, historic day

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Speaker 4: in the University of Kentucky Athletics. You can give a

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Speaker 4: Smithlaw Office called TJ He'll make them pay After a

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Speaker 4: memorable weekend including an embarrassing, embarrassing loss to Louisville on

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Speaker 4: the Road. Mark Stoops is no longer the head coach

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Speaker 4: at Kentucky. A result that would have seemed shocking even

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Speaker 4: two weeks ago has now taken place where with Ryan

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Speaker 4: Lemon Drew Franklin. So here's what I'm gonna do today.

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Speaker 4: I think this is the way to go. I think

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Speaker 4: we're gonna spend the first hour talking about sort of

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Speaker 4: the end of the Mark Stoops era, Okay, what happened,

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Speaker 4: how it took place, etc. And then the second hour

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Speaker 4: going all right, what's next, because I think that's the

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Speaker 4: way to go. Yep, I want to end this first

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Speaker 4: hour given Mark Stoops kind of some flowers, but let's

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Speaker 4: just talk a little bit of news here for a second.

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Speaker 4: What happened? Kentucky gets destroyed forty one to nothing. Ryan,

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Speaker 4: you and I were talking inside on our way walking in.

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Speaker 4: Do you think he gets fired if that game's close.

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Speaker 2: No, I think they could even lose that game. But

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Speaker 2: if it's close, they chose some fight. He is our

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Speaker 4: You agree with that plea degree?

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Speaker 5: Maybe if it just shows fighting either one of the

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Speaker 5: last two weeks, I think he's here.

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Speaker 4: I agree. I think what is amazing is that this

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Speaker 4: and I mean I can say this with some certainty.

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Speaker 4: They went in to the Vandy game and everybody had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're five and five.

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Speaker 4: You know, we were going to hit that purgatory of

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Speaker 4: five and seven that I had talked about, but the

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Speaker 4: thirty seven million dollars was probably gonna save you. Yep.

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Speaker 4: And then they just couldn't have foreseen not just two blowouts,

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Speaker 4: but to quit because the team quit. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: the team quit, and then a series of events proceed

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Speaker 4: took place that were somewhat shocking. I mean, even as

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Speaker 4: I started thinking, I talked about this in the postgame show.

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Speaker 4: I was walking around downtown going, I've got to say,

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Speaker 4: think they're going to. And so I'm gonna have this

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Speaker 4: situation where I've called for his job, and then I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna have to see it like covering Yah. But I

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Speaker 4: was like, I still have to do it. But then

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Speaker 4: I started to hear that night a lot of people

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Speaker 4: talking about there's folks who just think it's time. And

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Speaker 4: I think one of the stories about Mark Going is

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Speaker 4: mentioning Ei Capoluto right. Other people have chimed in, but

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Speaker 4: But I think some of those people kind of were like,

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Speaker 4: not saying Mitch and Capoluto wanted to fight for him,

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Speaker 4: It just had to happen. I think you got to

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Speaker 5: There were some people maybe even still on the fence

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Speaker 5: the last two weeks, but when you lose like that

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Speaker 5: and quit. And a lot of people try to downplay

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Speaker 5: Auburn because in Florida, because their coaches were out, teams

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Speaker 5: those are big wins. Louisville truly had a JV roster

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Speaker 5: but a true freshman walk on should not be running

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Speaker 4: And that was probably part of it too. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: This was a Louisville team that was playing a guy

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Speaker 4: supposed to be the team to quit. Yeah, they and

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Speaker 2: When I saw your tweet they said Mitch was not

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Speaker 2: at the volleyball selection show. That told me, right there,

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Speaker 4: Invited to that. Yeah, right right, so media invited to that,

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Speaker 4: gonna have to call Phoenix Stevens and go, Phoenix, go

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Speaker 4: So that was a that was a sign. But they

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Speaker 4: last night. So you're talking about a five hour meeting.

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Speaker 4: First was trying to convince whether or not they were

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Speaker 4: we get the money. I think it had been made

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Speaker 4: clear that the donors weren't paying for this one, right,

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Speaker 4: that's the problem. The donors are not paying for this one.

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Speaker 4: So then it became okay, how do you raise this

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Speaker 4: money in a very short turnaround. The university is allowed

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Speaker 4: just do that overnight. There has to be as a process,

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Speaker 4: It has to be approved. They also knew a Board

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Speaker 4: a long talk about how how do we get this

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Speaker 4: and then, in what I think needs to be celebrated, genuinely,

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Speaker 4: Stoops agreed to take the money. Over a period of

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Speaker 4: don't know if he did or not, but he still

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Speaker 4: he did, and to me, I think that's a big

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Speaker 4: step in him preserving his legacy here. I agree.

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Speaker 5: And even before he did it, I wrote on our

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Speaker 5: website and I've said on the show many times, I

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Speaker 5: wouldn't have done it. You sat down at the table

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Speaker 5: with me, we signed the same sheet of paper. I'm

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Speaker 5: not budgeting because you didn't like the deal you gave

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Speaker 5: a lot for Stoops to be able to do that,

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Speaker 5: because he had every right to sit there and say, no,

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Speaker 5: this was our agreement, this is how it's going to

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Speaker 4: Do you agree that I wrote on social media? This

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Speaker 4: could allow Mark to have a Tubby Askue future with

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Speaker 4: it took Tubby a few years to get it did,

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Speaker 4: be beloved here. He could even live here if he wanted.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying he'd want to, but that kind of

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Speaker 2: Me, also completely changed my attitude about Mark Stoops. The

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Speaker 2: number of years shows that he's doing us and Olive

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Speaker 4: That different or extended. You don't throw the Olive brand.

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Speaker 4: I think he threw it.

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Speaker 2: It was so important he picked it up and threw

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Speaker 5: I think he saw we all saw it. I don't

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Speaker 5: remember the exact game, but this season they had the homecoming,

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Speaker 5: one of the last home games whatever. Rich Brooks was

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Speaker 5: getting the whole treatment. I mean, he was being paraded

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Speaker 5: around all week. Former players are there. He's getting hugs

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Speaker 4: It's my turn. Do you think Mark gets that.

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Speaker 2: I think he does now. Like you said, it may

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Speaker 2: take a couple of years, but I think he's the

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Speaker 2: best coach of our lifetimes.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know. Well, And I want to talk about

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Speaker 4: worth noting because but do you think Mitch wanted to

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Speaker 2: I think going into that Louisville game, Mitch did not

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Speaker 2: don't know if he wanted to, but he had to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he wanted to. But I also

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Speaker 2: I told the story that, you know, my dad was

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Speaker 4: And we didn't think going forward he could succeed. Right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the records too damning. I mean, my mother could

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Speaker 5: Kentucky football needs to win games. Voting'll be like three

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Speaker 5: I'm not really sad like ron Is and he didn't die.

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Speaker 4: I don't really think sad's not the word to me.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel the way you feel is because Stoops

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Speaker 4: I think I would have felt that way either way,

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Speaker 4: Kentucky Sports Radio. All right, so let's talk just second

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Speaker 4: I mean it's just crazy. And these are not just

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Speaker 4: to be a Kentucky football fan. I don't like how

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Speaker 5: Definitely, the last few years were disappointing and that's how

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't think about Tubby's last two or three

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Speaker 2: I think he totally changed the culture of UK football.

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Speaker 5: Dad is biggest I meant to work this in. I

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Speaker 5: Never see his beat Florida. Total Not only did he

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Speaker 4: And that's kind of we have. That's his biggest win,

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Speaker 5: That was honestly one of my favorite UK moments. I know,

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Speaker 4: The Penn State Bowl Game where we go and win,

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Speaker 4: and Terry Wilson, who kind of embodies Stoops is like,

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Speaker 4: what's he doing out there? And it's working in an

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Speaker 4: offensive line that dominates.

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Speaker 5: And in that game, I'll for remember this when he

437
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Speaker 5: walked out and yelled, bring it on to James Franklin

438
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Speaker 5: five minutes into the Game's I knew it.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute. We are an actual trashed to Franklin.

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Speaker 4: Even last year winning that old miss a game that

441
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Speaker 4: no one thought we had any business winning, and we

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Speaker 4: won like those and we you know, Louisville beat us Saturday.

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Speaker 4: It's first time they beat us there since twenty fourteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: which kind of is an amazing thing.

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Speaker 2: When he beat him at our place and everybody stormed

446
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Speaker 2: the field. We beat Florida Final for the first time

447
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Speaker 2: at home, went an sec home win.

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Speaker 4: Trevin Wallace running back that block kick against Florida that time,

449
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Speaker 4: right when we beat LSU the year at home, which

450
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Speaker 4: was a mad house of a win. Yep, with I

451
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Speaker 4: think basically got Orderer on fire. Think about how many

452
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Speaker 4: coaches he's gotten fired over the years. It's a big graveyard,

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Speaker 4: including two of them.

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Speaker 2: Mission you know, he beat Louisville five times in a

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Speaker 2: row until the last two years.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and think about God just where they'd fire their

457
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Speaker 5: coach after they played Katucky.

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Speaker 4: I mean, think about how many dudes he's gotten fired

459
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Speaker 4: over the years he made I mean, I'm sure there

460
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Speaker 4: are others, but those all kind of come to my mind. Oh,

461
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Speaker 4: first time they won a road game at South Carolina,

462
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Speaker 4: Remember when they stopped the two point conversion and ran

463
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Speaker 4: it back Denzel where? I think, did that? The Chris

464
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Speaker 4: Westy game? The Chris what exactly? They're just a lot

465
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Speaker 4: that Joe Joe camp against South Carolina, just running it

466
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Speaker 4: over and over and over and over at the Wildcat

467
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Speaker 4: and they can't stop them.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad we're giving him these flowers and last.

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Speaker 4: Time here Will Levis, who had an awesome two years.

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Speaker 2: He deserves the moment to get his flowers. I'm glad

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Speaker 2: we're giving him this moment here, even though we were

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Speaker 2: saying goodbye today. He is he he is a guy

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Speaker 2: that it's gonna be tough to replace. What he did

474
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Speaker 2: here on personal note too. When he would come on

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Speaker 2: this show, he was a different person. He was fun

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Speaker 2: like I looked forward to those interviews because you know,

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Speaker 2: when we get him in a press conference, back to work,

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Speaker 2: back to work. But it was always fun talking to

479
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Speaker 2: him on here. He'd let loose.

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Speaker 4: Yep, all right, we'll open up the phones. What do

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Speaker 4: you think about the stoops air? And we'll talk about

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Speaker 4: the rest of it after and the decision to fire

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Speaker 4: him A five nine, two eighty seven channel. Open it

484
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Speaker 4: up right for this. TJ Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ.

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Speaker 4: He'll make them.

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Speaker 3: Hey, now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.

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Speaker 4: Here's Matt Jones. Welcome back, Tukey Sports Radio. Text machine

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Speaker 4: seven seven two seven seven four five two five four.

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Speaker 4: Before I go to it, Chin, you haven't gotten to

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Speaker 4: say anything. What were your thoughts on this?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the good thing is losing a combined

492
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Speaker 3: eighty six to seventeen in your last two games of

493
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Speaker 3: the year makes it obvious what you need to do.

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Speaker 3: I think the worst case scenario would have been going

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Speaker 3: five and seven and then being competitive in those two

496
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Speaker 3: games and really not knowing what to do in dividing

497
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Speaker 3: the fan base. So if you're looking for a silver lining,

498
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Speaker 3: getting beat forty one to nothing at Lovell made it

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Speaker 3: clear there had to be a change.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we might have to thank Louisville for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean I didn't want it to happen, but since

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Speaker 4: it did, You're right, I think it made it easier.

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Speaker 4: One person says, Matt, do you think Mark Soups knew

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Speaker 4: it was coming?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 4: I mean I think he knew yesterday. But when he

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Speaker 4: got up in the press conference said there's a zero

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Speaker 4: point zero percent chance I'm leaving, I don't think he

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Speaker 4: thought it. And then I wonder what happened between that

510
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Speaker 4: and when he talked to Tom. Did you notice the

511
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Speaker 4: difference in the language. Absolutely, he said I have bosses.

512
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Speaker 4: He said, well, there's chance I'm leaving, but I do

513
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Speaker 4: have bosses. And it was like, I don't know if

514
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Speaker 4: somebody said something or on his walk from the from

515
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Speaker 4: the press conference to talking to Tom, he was like, well,

516
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Speaker 4: wait a minute, I guess it's not my only choice.

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Speaker 5: It makes you wondering how some people to just give

518
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Speaker 5: you a little cold shoulder, you know, like wait a minute,

519
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Speaker 5: comes and talks to me after the game and he's

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Speaker 5: not here.

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Speaker 2: Stoops also backed off the cutter bully comments. He screwed

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Speaker 2: that up, Yeah he did.

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Speaker 3: He screwed up the uncomfortable laugh too. When he was

524
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Speaker 3: asked about it in the press conference, you know, he.

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Speaker 2: Was like, zero percent chance, I'll leave it.

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Speaker 4: I'm getting all that money. Yeah, it wasn't just the

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Speaker 4: zero percent for me either.

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Speaker 5: He had a moment to kind of explain the loss

529
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Speaker 5: and give him a chance to inject some incitement moving forward.

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Speaker 4: And he was like, well, you know me, we're going

531
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Speaker 4: back to work. And I was like, well that's your problem.

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Speaker 4: His keep saying going back to work. Everybody said, do

533
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Speaker 4: you have a message, and his message was just like,

534
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Speaker 4: well keep working.

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Speaker 5: Like he's like he kind of had a chance there

536
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Speaker 5: to maybe win a few people over here.

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Speaker 4: It's like you're like standing there on the final battle

538
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Speaker 4: field before you're taking on the enemy, and you've lost

539
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Speaker 4: the last battle and you're like, all right, guys, let's

540
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Speaker 4: battle and you're like, no, we want to be we

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Speaker 4: want to be pumped up.

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Speaker 2: And his solution was he's gonna go get ju junior

543
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Speaker 2: college players, which which is not gonna be a good idea.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a good idea, so uh yeah, it.

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Speaker 4: Ended up actually kind of working out. By the way,

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Speaker 4: UK just put out a graphic that was very nice saying,

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Speaker 4: we think thank you for all you've done, Mark Stude,

548
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Speaker 4: like they're clearly trying to make this a positive transition.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. After a couple of years, you

550
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Speaker 2: can bring him back, introduce him at the stadium. We'll

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Speaker 2: give him a great round of applause. And that's not

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Speaker 2: gonna happen next year, but maybe in a couple of

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Speaker 2: years down the road.

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Speaker 4: I think we will. All right, let's go through here

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Speaker 4: real quick. Let's doing good, gentlemen.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing good with sure it's doing better, but uh

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Speaker 6: I called in right before the Auburny of the Florida

558
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Speaker 6: game and I was a all right, doing good.

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Speaker 4: We gotta you gotta be more into it, and you

560
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Speaker 4: gotta get like we can't just be sad.

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Speaker 6: Go sorry, I'm a bit sick today. Anyway. I love

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Speaker 6: having Mark Soups as the coach. He's been my favorite

563
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Speaker 6: coach of my lifetime. And I go back to Kersey

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Speaker 6: that I can remember in place. But I love the

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Speaker 6: University of Kentucky Moore after that lost to Louisville, I

566
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Speaker 6: think it was obvious we needed to go a different direction.

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Speaker 6: I was not looking forward to next year. You guys

568
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Speaker 6: touched on it, but I think he did probably the

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Speaker 6: classiest move that I don't think I would have done

570
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Speaker 6: in that situation was letting us do a buy out

571
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Speaker 6: over a certain amount of time that did not cripple

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Speaker 6: the university going forward. So I hope as we look

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Speaker 6: back on this time that we are very grateful.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, I appreciate the call he did. You know,

575
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Speaker 4: think about how Lane Kiffin left. Blane Kiffin left with

576
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Speaker 4: people standing at the airport flipping him off. Yeah, that

577
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: was wild. Not a couple of people. I mean, let's

578
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Speaker 4: just say that the Lane kiffaninie was wild.

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Speaker 2: Should we expect anything less from that guy?

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Speaker 4: I mean, well, they just did a documentary about what

581
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Speaker 4: a good duty was changed.

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Speaker 5: Oxford had changed his lof his daughter made a PowerPoint

583
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Speaker 5: to convince him to stay.

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Speaker 4: Remember, I mean that was crazy.

585
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Speaker 3: Putting his clothes out in the streets the.

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Speaker 2: Kind of applaud that I like it.

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Speaker 4: You know, you can get out of here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's over. They put his clothes in the street,

589
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Speaker 3: should put a yard cell sign next to it.

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Speaker 4: Sounded like the players didn't like it either.

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Speaker 5: You know, Lsu plays in Oxford next years, Like everyone

592
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Speaker 5: has to wow, I mean that will be Remember when

593
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Speaker 5: he went back to Tennessee, they threw mustard at him

594
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Speaker 5: and that was like five years late.

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Speaker 4: Uh huh. I'm good.

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Speaker 5: He didn't help his cause when he tried to poach

597
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Speaker 5: the entire staff and like get on this plane, or.

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Speaker 4: You don't have a job. I mean, so much happened

599
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Speaker 4: in that Sunday, the whole like if you don't come

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Speaker 4: with me now, you don't have a job before we

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Speaker 4: have a bowl game. And one guy went Charlie weis junior,

602
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Speaker 4: and pretty much everybody else stayed.

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Speaker 2: May have a game that's a playoff game. It's a

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Speaker 2: huge game.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy. David, go ahead, David that hey, go ahead, Yes,

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Speaker 4: go ahead, David.

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Speaker 9: First of all, I want to thank coach Stoops for

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Speaker 9: his thirteen years at Kentucky in and I want to

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Speaker 9: thank him for being Florida the past five years. I

610
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Speaker 9: remember the first game and gets Florida when we started

611
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Speaker 9: that fumble and I hug my dad and I was

612
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Speaker 9: at the I was at the blockfield goal game in

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty one, and that was an epic.

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Speaker 4: We did kind of own Florida. Not only the games

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Speaker 4: we won, we should have won two more. There was

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Speaker 4: the one where the play clock went out and the

617
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Speaker 4: holding Callum Bunchie stallings like we probably should have won,

618
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 4: probably should have won like nine of eleven or something

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Speaker 4: against him. But we still, I mean, we had a

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Speaker 4: winning record against Florida and most which is kind of crazy.

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Speaker 4: But what anything else.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I hope the next coach is Will Steine and

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Speaker 9: that that's my pick.

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Speaker 4: We're going to do that in the second hour though.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it, David, but Lucas go ahead, and Lucas.

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Speaker 8: Hi there, Hey, Yeah, I really just appreciate, you know,

627
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Speaker 8: kind of what Stoops has done with the program. And

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Speaker 8: I remember back in your South Carolina in the Stoops

629
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Speaker 8: troops there, and I'm hoping that, you know, moving forward

630
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Speaker 8: with a new head coach, that's something that we can

631
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Speaker 8: kind of attend as a fan base since it wasn't

632
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Speaker 8: such a tough breakup, and I'm looking forward to that.

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Speaker 4: I think it's been interesting. I appreciate the call about

634
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Speaker 4: the former players because former players have weighed in most

635
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Speaker 4: of them and said how much they love Stoops, but

636
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Speaker 4: they also haven't like taken shots, you know what I mean,

637
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Speaker 4: Like I think the former players, a lot of them

638
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 4: kind of thought, you know, I get it right, even

639
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Speaker 4: though they loved him. And I do think the former

640
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: players love him. I think a lot of them Drew

641
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Speaker 4: kind of got it that, Okay, probably need to do

642
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Speaker 4: something else. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I follow a lot of them on social media, like

644
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Speaker 5: a lot of our listeners do, and kind of to

645
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Speaker 5: your what you're saying, they love Stoops, but you could

646
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Speaker 5: just tell their tone of how things change. I mean,

647
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Speaker 5: even like Cash and guys we've had on the show

648
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 5: mentioned that the locker room isn't what it was in

649
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Speaker 5: their time just because the sports changed so much, and

650
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Speaker 5: kind of wondered if that's the right you know, this

651
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Speaker 5: is the right time to have Stoops. But there's no

652
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Speaker 5: question they all love him. I mean, we have a

653
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 5: recap of players reactions and there's so many it's hard

654
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 5: to track them all down.

655
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Speaker 4: What do you think, if you're looking back, was the check?

656
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 4: What do you think was the change? Like? Why did

657
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 4: it end beyond just you lost?

658
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: You know, the smart Stoops that came on this show

659
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: and said, we're just getting started.

660
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 7: Bro.

661
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 4: That that's a blue collar I forget that one. That

662
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 4: was awesome. We're just getting started, bro.

663
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that blue collar attitude is what made him who

664
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: he was. And I feel like he just lost his

665
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: fastball a little bit the past couple of seasons. Maybe

666
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: got it back up a little bit this year, but

667
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: like the twenty two to twenty three, twenty four seasons,

668
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: I feel like he lost his fastball a little bit.

669
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: And I don't know why. I don't know if he

670
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: just got the rest of these laurels a little bit.

671
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: You know, I've taken this program as far as I

672
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: can take it, and I'm a superstar here.

673
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 10: There it is.

674
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean John cal Perry said about the basketball job,

675
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 4: it was a ten year job. Maybe all these jobs

676
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: are ten year jobs because we start to see we

677
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 4: started to see cows fall at ten years, and I

678
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 4: think we kind of started to see marks at ten years. Yeah. True,

679
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 4: Maybe these guys have like ten years of fire in them.

680
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 4: And then that's kind of it, because really it started

681
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 4: then and it was it was not just winning and losing.

682
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 4: It was the locker room. It was him. He wasn't

683
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 4: the same person. Whereas col became kind of prickly and ornery,

684
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 4: Stoop's just kind of seemed down for the last three years.

685
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: He just wasn't his self, I think in a lot

686
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: of ways, and when you were around him, it wasn't

687
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 4: the same energy. If you talk to people that love him,

688
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: including people like Vince and Cash and all these former players,

689
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: they'd all go, yeah, it's just not what it was.

690
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: And maybe this thrugh is just a ten year job

691
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 4: and you do it and then you gotta hand it

692
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: to somebody else.

693
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 5: I agree that it's ten years is about right. You

694
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 5: just need new juice with everything. But also don't think

695
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 5: it's a coincidence both of them fell off around the

696
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 5: same time when Nil got here, both for different formulas.

697
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 5: They were both great with what they brought. Like when

698
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 5: Stoop said in his first interview, I'm sitting on g

699
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: and need an oh he had a plan. He's gonna

700
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 5: go to Ohio recruit develop. I mean, you think of

701
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 5: Josh Allen, a two star that he turned into something,

702
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 5: Letting Bowden kind of a player. He took a gamble

703
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 5: on We know what he became when the era changed

704
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 5: and we fell way behind on Nil everything. The Stoop's

705
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 5: formula didn't work anymore. The sport evolved all around him,

706
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 5: and what he was doing just didn't stick with you.

707
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 4: Take you're exactly right, recruit, develop, bring guys in that

708
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: are and build them up. That maybe isn't the way,

709
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 4: And then I think some of this goes on the

710
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: athletic department. Mitch took too long for Nil, put him

711
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 4: in a two year behind. He became bitter about that.

712
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 4: It led him to do things like pony up and

713
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 4: next thing you know, it kind of slipped away. I

714
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 4: think he lost that connection for a variety of reasons.

715
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723
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Speaker 4: take a break. One more segment on stoops and then

724
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: we look to the future. Who's going to be the

725
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 4: next guy that's here on Execkuy Sports Radio. I don't

726
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 4: think that's exactly what he said. I think he would

727
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 4: like to have staid no, no.

728
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: Johnny Paycheck said that, Mark, Yeah.

729
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 4: I understand that. I just didn't know if that was

730
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: uh opropos of here a couple of people talking about

731
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: kind of the way it fell apart, and it is

732
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 4: worth noting. I think you would be if you're really trying,

733
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 4: you'd be reminiscent. Not to say, he had a lot

734
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: of changes in his personal life too during that period. Yes,

735
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 4: and I think that matters. I think it would be

736
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 4: incorrect to say that that it doesn't. But I do

737
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 4: think there's a bigger thing of you want to leave anything,

738
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 4: George Costanzas said on Steinfeld, leave them want more, right,

739
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 4: like get one good joke and get out. And I

740
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 4: think I don't think he left people wanted more. But

741
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: I think he left before it started to really get stale.

742
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 4: And it's a good lesson for life, like don't stayed

743
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 4: on the last minute. Make people go, man, I wish

744
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 4: they'd come back rather than will you just go away?

745
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: Like the people at the party that just stay.

746
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 4: All night yeah, a little bit too.

747
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta leave the party, leave earlier than you will.

748
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: You think I felt that one, that one at home.

749
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: How many times did we hear him in the last

750
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: couple of years, you know, somebody would be he'd hear

751
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 2: some criticism and say, well, yeah.

752
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 4: But he's a big yeah, but guy, uh huh, I

753
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 4: mean and he The other thing is he felt people's criticism. Yeah,

754
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 4: he felt it. And by the end he was almost

755
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: expecting your criticism before he talked. Remember his last interview

756
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 4: when he came in the studio and before everything, he'd

757
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 4: be like, no, I don't want to you know, I

758
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 4: know everybody's gonna say and I just wanted to be like,

759
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 4: just say, you don't have to be on rebutdal to

760
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 4: start just sad talk. And he just never felt comfortable

761
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: in those last couple of years kind of in his

762
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 4: own skin like he did the years before.

763
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 5: Heard every word he has said for several years, including

764
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 5: the last two, and there was a lot of well

765
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 5: I don't want to make a headline. Well I don't

766
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 5: want this getting out there. Well I don't want to.

767
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 5: You know, it's like that's your point, Just say it

768
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 5: and we'll do it out. Well, I don't want to

769
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 5: answer that.

770
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 4: It'll be a headline. Yeah, Dustin, go ahead, Dustin. I

771
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: want to get these folks on here, so let's go quick.

772
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 4: Just make your point and go Dustin, go ahead, all right,

773
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: out of the game quick. He was right, That's true.

774
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 4: He was quick. Did you hear the guy in the

775
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 4: post game show, Carl who called? He did like five

776
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 4: seconds with stumbling over his words, and he just went, ah, yeah,

777
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 4: I gave Carl cranted.

778
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: He was like, ah, somebody so mad and frustrated. You

779
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: couldn't even get his words out.

780
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: Go ahead, just justin, Hey.

781
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 8: Man, what's up guys? Hey?

782
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 4: Real quick.

783
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 9: I don't know if anbody's asked this question or touck

784
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 9: on this.

785
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 10: Where do you think?

786
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 8: Where do you think he lands? So?

787
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 9: Does he take some time.

788
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 5: Off from coaching?

789
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 10: Does he maybe go back to a coordinator position?

790
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 8: Does he try to go coach? Maybe a head coach

791
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 8: at a lesser school. I think maybe as a head coach.

792
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 9: Probably when you coach that long as a head coach,

793
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 9: you probably want to be a head coach.

794
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 8: Right the next stop. I don't think he's done coaching,

795
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 8: so just curious where maybe you.

796
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: Think that's same time. I think most likely, yeah, appreciate

797
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 4: the call time off followed by coach at a G five.

798
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 4: That's my I think the most likely scenario. I could

799
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 4: see him being a coordinator, but he likes to be

800
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: in charge now, and I think that's hard. I don't

801
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 4: think he's one of these people that's desperate to coach

802
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 4: that like is like, I gotta have a job next year.

803
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: But I think I think he goes and he'll end

804
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 4: up getting like a G five. Who knows, maybe he

805
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 4: gets one this year. A lot of these jobs, like

806
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 4: in the American Conference have all come open South Florida,

807
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: so h but I do think that's probably his likely future.

808
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 2: I think, you know, maybe end up someplace like Youngstown

809
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: or Toledo or.

810
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 4: He ain't not going down. I ain't not going that low. No,

811
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 4: I don't even think he needs to go to Toledo.

812
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: I think he can get a job two lane or sound.

813
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 4: I don't know if he will, but I think he can,

814
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 4: don't you definitely yeah his first towns division two? Yeah, No,

815
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: he should not do that.

816
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 5: If I were setting nods, one would be going enjoy

817
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 5: life for a little bit. I mean, he probably he'll

818
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 5: take Tom off since he was in take a year off. Yeah,

819
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 5: he got money. You know, we've talked about family. You

820
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 5: know he's got his boys getting about college. A's they've

821
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 5: been away from him. I would say the favorite would

822
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 5: be taking a little tome off. Second, I would watch

823
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 5: the the Kirby Smart Rehab analyst thing, kind of what

824
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 5: people do with Sabing. Yeah, I'll come give you a

825
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 5: job for a year till you figured out. Mark and

826
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 5: Kirby are very close. So I could see, like the

827
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 5: analyst at Georgia Defensive Analysts for a year, as many

828
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 5: people did under saving at Alabama.

829
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Speaker 4: He will get a job. He'll get a job. He

830
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 4: succeeded here, He'll get a job. He might even get

831
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 4: a job at a school like Kentucky at another conference.

832
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 4: You know you can see, Ah, I don't know, a

833
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 4: Minnesota or something like that. Hire Jerry, go ahead, Jerry, Hey, Matt.

834
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 10: First off, even though you know I felt a need

835
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 10: for a change for a while, I want to thank

836
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 10: Mark suscret he did here because he did do a

837
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 10: lot of good things here and wishing the best new

838
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 10: feature going forward. This kind of down how the phrase

839
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 10: was going to happen is that Barney was going to

840
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 10: wring his hands about kind of gun not going forward.

841
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 4: J Jerry, We're not going forward. That's out too, all right,

842
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to James. I was very clear, appreciate

843
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 4: the call. It was very clear that we were doing this. Uh,

844
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: we were doing Stoops. James, go ahead, James.

845
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, the first time in a long time. My

846
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 7: question is, oh, you said yourself that Stoops pulled a

847
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 7: lot of good investors into the into the program.

848
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 10: Correct.

849
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 7: What happens to all these what happens to all these

850
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 7: guys once he leaves? Are they still on board or

851
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 7: the coach?

852
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 4: It's a great question. It's a great question. It's gonna

853
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: be up to the new coach. The new coach is

854
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: gonna have to get him. I told this story on

855
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 4: on you Tube last night, but I watched Drew Franklin

856
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 4: and I set twelve years ago, thirteen years ago at

857
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 4: a table at Dudley's. At a table at Dudley's, it

858
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 4: was me, Drew, Joe Craft, and Mark Stoops and one

859
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 4: other person who I want forced to be on the air.

860
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 4: And I watched Mark Stoops sell Joe Craft on investing

861
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 4: in UK football. I don't know why Drew and I

862
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 4: were there, but we were still tell that story and

863
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 4: it was a lot of fun. And we closed the

864
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 4: restaurant down and Mark Stoops sold one. Joe Craft over

865
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 4: that he became the leading change in the renovations of

866
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 4: Croger Field. Oh yes, and and even have a football

867
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Speaker 4: team if it was I mean, we wouldn't even been

868
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 4: able to get on the field these last few years.

869
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 4: And we watched it happen and that was the moment

870
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 4: I went, Okay, maybe this guy and he didn't just

871
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 4: do it with Joe, that's the one we saw. He

872
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 4: did it with a lot of people sure that weren't

873
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 4: maybe as big a donors, but that were successful. And

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00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 4: the new coach now has got to go do that.

875
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 4: Would you agree? It was one of their most important jobs,

876
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, get the.

877
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 2: Steps was so good at getting the guys that would

878
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 2: just invest in basketball to also invest in football.

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Speaker 4: And he said a line which I'll never be able

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00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 4: to say, but which has become legendary amongst me and

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00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 4: my friends. And it was the line he looked at

882
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: he looked at Joe and said, and then Drew and

883
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 4: I were like, Okay, maybe this is the dude. I

884
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 4: think I joked on my food when he said what

885
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 4: he say, Well, so did Joe. No one saw it

886
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: coming and I was like, oh, maybe Mark Stoops is

887
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 4: gonna get this done. So I give a salute to it. Amen,

888
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 4: I really do. He made football a sport that matters

889
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 4: at this school, and now somebody else takes that mantle

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Speaker 4: to the next level. And that's what we'll do. In

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Speaker 4: the second hour. Who's Next On Kentucky Sports Radio.