1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club. Morning. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Everybody is d j Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We got special guests in 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: the building. She's been here with all this big queen energy. 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: Ari A Lenox welcome, first time on the Breakfast Club. Wow, 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: We're welcome. Thank you so much. How you feel this morning? Horrified? 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: All right, I'm just a little nervous you because you're 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: just kidding. Yeah, but it's just a little nervous. It's 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: a very legendary, you know show. So what took you 10 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: so long to come up? Hitting fear? Fear? Yeah? What 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: you scared of y'all? And yeah, I love wed. No, 12 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: it's just you know, y'all can be a little tough 13 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: on people sometimes. Yeah, we've evolved, We've changed the whole lots. Yeah, 14 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: and I feel that. I feel that. Yes, I want 15 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: to if you don't mind, you know, for people that 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: don't know who Ari Lennox is, or where you're signed to, 17 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: or how you got your story, I want to start 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: from the beginning for those people, since this is your 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: to do a documentary. Oh yeah, so you're signed to 20 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: J Cole. How did you get into the music industry 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: and signed to Cole. Oh um, Well, I was working 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: at public storage and just dropping music on SoundCloud and 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: there's an amazing rapper name Omen. He loved my music. 24 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: He told Eve and Cole about it, and he was like, 25 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: we'll fly you out like tomorrow or tonight something like 26 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: that so that you can meet Cole and the studio 27 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And I was horrified. You know, 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: I just got the job. I didn't want to lose 29 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: the job. It was ten dollars an hour. It was 30 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: the highest paid job I ever had an hour. Yeah, 31 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: so I didn't want to like lose this, so I 32 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: almost didn't go. And but honestly, I think it was fear, 33 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, fear of flying and things like that. But 34 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: I just I got over it. I drank Matt vodka 35 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: and I got on That flight. Was the first flight 36 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: as well, first flight in a long time, like years. 37 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Lose your job, yeah I did, and I was. I 38 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: was horrified, and I started doing uber. There's a lot 39 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: here now. First of all, what were you afraid? Why 40 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: are you afraid of flying? Oh well, I had a 41 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: traumatic experience when I was young on a flight or 42 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: and so um, the crash or something. Yeah, well the 43 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: engines went out and so yeah and so as yeah, 44 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: so as we're about to land, he's basically telling us 45 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: to brace for impact. And I was very young and 46 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: just praying. But I don't remember having fear before that moment. 47 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: But after that moment um, and we didn't fly that 48 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: often after that, I it just I became I was 49 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: just scared of trauma. Yeah. Absolutely. And so you said 50 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: you were making music, So I mean, who was doing 51 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: your beach? How are you affording production? Right? I was 52 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: recording myself on pro tools se very beginners, uh, situation 53 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: and um, working with different producers from Dave James to 54 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: DJ Gromble and yeah. But I love the fact that 55 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: what was that think, Oh no, I don't have the 56 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: gumming Okay, why is everybody telling me go, oh I did? 57 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: Was I chewing them? No? No, I was just I 58 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: just got the note I did have. I did have 59 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: a lossenger No. Yeah, but it's sorry now, like, are 60 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: you passing me note? I do love the fact that 61 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: it says a lot about you that even though you 62 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: have a dream of music, like I got a job. Yeah, 63 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: it sounds a lot about you that you just didn't say, now, 64 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm after my job, you know what I mean? Even 65 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: though I do want to be a singer, I'm not 66 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: gonna just say after my job. That's a scary thing 67 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: to say my job when you just got it, just 68 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, but glad you took that chance. Me too. 69 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: Now you're driver right now. Now let's let's let's rewind. 70 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: Now you lose your job and you become a loogle driver. 71 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: I can't see you, d h am. I good driver. 72 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: It depends very I'm very safe at driving, yes, but 73 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: there are things that have happened where it's just like 74 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: I could have been more a little bit more alert. Okay, 75 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: where you're Where was your star rating? My star rating? Oh? 76 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: It started dropping like crazy. And I don't I don't. 77 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: I don't know why. Some people thought I was driving 78 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: too fast or I think people are kind of picky, 79 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: like I didn't think I was driving that fast. One 80 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: note I got was I was switching lanes too much, 81 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: but I was trying to get them. Then, I don't 82 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: know what soul that. Yeah, I was public storage. No, 83 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: I didn't have no big fancy you know, tell me, um, 84 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: it was just a nice black um interior and a 85 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: big bowl of candy and drivers have candy. Yes, I 86 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: did have my charger. I would give because you know 87 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: you can't trust did your music I did? No, not 88 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: my I would never I mean never, no, hell no never. 89 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: That's so strange. Yeah, huh no never never did I? No? No, no? Never. 90 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: Did you make conversation or were you quiet? I made 91 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: some conversations sometimes. Um three times people threw threw up 92 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: in my car? Yeah, that was intense. Do they pay 93 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: for how does that work? Do they pay for it? 94 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: Or they paid for it, but it's nowhere near enough. 95 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: And then you lose like five days of work because 96 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: your car stinks and you're traumatized. Yeah. How long did 97 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 1: you have the interesting? This is my longest job today, uber, 98 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: I probably did for like at least a year or something. Wow, yeah, 99 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: or maybe a little more like on and off? And 100 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: what music was you playing? I'm sure it was R 101 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: and B Tam and Paula um DeAngelo. That's those are 102 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: two specific names I remember playing in my car. The 103 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: people that threw up, I was like, please get out 104 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: after he after he projectile vomited, and it was just 105 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: everywhere I was back. Oh and then another time, It's lady. 106 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: After she threw up um, they asked me if I 107 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: could still take her home. She was but we had 108 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: already stopped at like her initial her other friend's house. 109 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I have to get home. I'm 110 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. It's dark. I puke like over. 111 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: Everybody'd be nice to your Uber driver. Okay, that's the 112 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: whole world of this death. I guess the meeting didn't 113 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: go well because you lost your job, but then you 114 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: started driving Uber. No, the meeting went really well. I 115 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: just you know, I had to still make money. You know. 116 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: They were still you know, taking their time with the 117 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: idea of like signing me. It wasn't like an immediate 118 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: thing or anything. This is my last Uber question. When 119 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: you saw that, when you saw the episode of Insecure 120 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: when he was driving, did you say, oh, I see me? 121 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: Didn't see Oh yeah, yeah she drove Insecure. Wow. I 122 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: feel like a loser. I need to you know why 123 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: I never watched Insecure because every time I would watch 124 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: an episode, I would just get so sad about my 125 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: life and how like sexy these men were and how 126 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: I had no men. But but that's my choice. I 127 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: feel like my che maybe it is it is my 128 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: choice that you could have a man, but it might 129 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: not be that when some people are okay with settling 130 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: and saying, Okay, I don't want to be alone, and 131 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: people make you feel like that. But the truth is 132 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: it's better to like wait till the right person, because 133 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: I think that's even more lonely to be with somebody 134 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: just for the sake of Absolutely, absolutely, And I've definitely 135 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: learned that like the hard way, so very like intentional. 136 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm particular about like who I want to share my 137 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: time with. So I find myself alone a lot because I, um, 138 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: it's just not working. Why not change the mindset a little? 139 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: Like you see the sexy man and you'd be like, 140 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have that one day. I'm gonna have a 141 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: man like that for myself one day. I've been more 142 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: adamant on like my standards. Absolutely I do do that. 143 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: Like I'm more like, yes, he has to be fine, 144 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: Yes he has to have a nice job. Yes he 145 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: has to be good to me, an effective communicator, like 146 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: I am, like have his own place. He did have 147 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: his own place, I am you know, chanting those things 148 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: within what kind of pas yeahs to be like a mansion. 149 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: I would like him to have his own um condo 150 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: or a house. Okay, I'm nice and my assistant loves you, right, Mercedes, Mercedes. 151 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: So she sent me a couple of questions. One of 152 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: the questions she said, you have a song called pof. Wow, 153 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: she's single, by the way, right, she says, have you 154 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: tried the dating app pof? And what you ever catfish? 155 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: And then she goes, by the way, that dating site 156 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: is terrible? Oh, so have you ever tried Plenty of 157 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: Fish before? Absolutely? I met my first boyfriend on pos? 158 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: Really his name is John. I don't I don't know 159 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: if I'll get in trouble for that, but yeah, I 160 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: shouldn't have said of name John is lit? Right? John 161 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: is gonna be so lit when the interview come out. 162 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: So how many? How many people have you picked up 163 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: from plenty of Fish? And is that just one? Just yet? 164 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: Picked up with some dating sites because I didn't believe 165 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: that it was you, Yeah, tender Um, they didn't believe 166 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: it was me, and I didn't want to blank my 167 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: Instagram so that people would know it's me and then 168 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: maybe reach out to me for the wrong reasons like 169 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: secret rappers. This is fly. I think human, thank you? 170 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: What is happening here? I think I need to step 171 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: outside more. I've I've definitely created this bubble online for 172 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: so many years. But I'm finally stepping outside and like 173 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: meeting like nice, like you know, enjoyable individuals. But yeah, 174 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: plenty of fish, yeah, not recently, Christian Tender, not recently, 175 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: Christian Mingle, not never Christian Mingle. I'm too ratchet African 176 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: ancestry for old Oh god, I mean what about Oh yeah, 177 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: that's the celebrity dating site that everybody you have to 178 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: get like a referral, right, I think that's where I'm 179 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: at Wood and now and it's it's been there. Ye, 180 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: Chris rock will give you a referral, because that's what 181 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: Sherry Shepherd is on there, and Chris Rockwood gave her 182 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: a referral. That's sweet. I saw Chris rock on there. 183 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: I did one time. Did you think it was him? 184 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: For real? I did think it was him. They let 185 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: you out on Riot, Yeah, like everyone's real. I hope. 186 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: Let's go back to John for a second. Why did 187 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: you throw John back in the sea? Well, John went 188 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: to the military, and I felt like we were growing apart. 189 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: And the affection was lacking. He called me bro one 190 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: and I was just like, you know what, I couldn't yeah, 191 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: and it triggered me. But and I know it wasn't 192 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: just bro like, it's fine, you can call me that. 193 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: It's just I felt like our romance was kind of dissipating, 194 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: and so I think that was just a triggering thing. 195 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: And we had an argument and I was like, well, 196 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: I guess we're not together anymore. And that's kind of 197 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,599 Speaker 1: where to protect myself. Unfortunately I do that and U 198 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: and he was like, okay, fine, we're not together anymore, 199 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: and he was really serious, Well his loss. How many 200 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: songs is he inspired? Um? Probably po F the the 201 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: EP and my album Shape Butter Baby. That's literally greatly 202 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: inspired by him. And I'm so grateful. What was the 203 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: first relationship I ever had? And he was it was 204 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: the most interesting relationship I've ever had. So yeah, I 205 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: know women, Yeah, we're cool. We check on each other sometimes. 206 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: I didn't get an EP credit sh well, I mean 207 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: when you just don't want to get back together and 208 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: back I know women that swear by Shape Butter Baby, 209 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: like they like that's like their their bible. So that's 210 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: that's big of him. He John make the T shirt 211 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: I inspired shape butter Man those T shirts please. I 212 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: was going to ask you, so, your government name is 213 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: not Ari lens Yeah, so where did you get the 214 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: name Ari Lenox? Well, The Secret Garden is like one 215 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: of my favorite movies growing up, and I was looking 216 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: for like a name with the cool, like English last name. 217 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: I kind of regret that now because like I feel 218 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: like I could have thought of something way more like 219 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: earthy or science. To think Courtney was is great, but 220 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: I like the separation of like people not knowing Courtney 221 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: unless you really look me up or something. But yeah, 222 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: the girl's name was Mary Lennox and I kind of 223 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: just remixed it into Ari Lennox and I'm Aries and 224 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: I love India Ari, And yeah, don't yelling at your 225 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: government name. You don't know why they call you Courtney 226 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: or did they call you Ari if it's real Courtney 227 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, if it becomes real Courtney for sure. Now 228 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: what you were attended for hookups? Or was it for 229 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: like really trying to find love? I think I was delusional. 230 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: I think I didn't know how I could find people, 231 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: and so like I would get on there hoping for more, 232 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: but a lot of times I would meet very surface situation. Right? 233 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: Does that bother you? Are you okay with like just 234 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: a you know, sometimes you might just be like, I 235 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: don't need this to be all deep, I just want 236 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: to have fun. I it would bother me now, like 237 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: I've wanted something meaningful and forever and just one man 238 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: for life, or at least for like a good twenty years, 239 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, and then after that it would be a 240 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: nice cute seasonal love love. What's the difference between Ari 241 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: Lennox the artist in Courtney the person? Wow? Oh, Ari 242 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: is this? Um? I don't freaking know. They intertwined. You know, 243 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: we're both I think very ratchet and um anxious and 244 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: sweet and giving and um maybe a little impulsive, just 245 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: the entire definition of aries. I believe they're both that way. 246 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: Maybe Ari, Well, honestly, yeah, they're both the same. You 247 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: think you created the character already protect Courtney. I think 248 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: Ari is more of like some sunglasses for me a 249 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: little bit. But Courtney always is so feisty, and I 250 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: feel like that's that's who be popping out, That's who 251 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: comes out, you know. So yeah, and that's why I 252 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: love the song Boy Bye with Lucky Day, the feistiness 253 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: and that song. It's so funny to me. So you've 254 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: met a lot of guys like, well, you've dated guys 255 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: and they've been secret rappers. I thought that was really funny. 256 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: Oh when you date somebody and then all of a 257 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: sudden you find out later like your pastors to cold 258 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: for me exactly, Oh my god, and it's the worst. 259 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: Um it happens, like but that's why I've learned with 260 00:15:53,560 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: dating acts specific questions. Are you a rapper? Do you 261 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: play basketball? Specifically? Goodness? What if he's good? Like, what 262 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: if you date somebody and you meet them and they're 263 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: like a secret rapper but they're actually good. I will 264 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: never be able to trust that you genuinely want to 265 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: be here for me and not try to get to 266 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: Cole or you know, dream Bill or interscope like you know, 267 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: that is hilarious. That's a plot for a movie or something. 268 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: The girl thinks that the guy is cheating, but he's 269 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: really sneaking off the recording escape exactly. And I was 270 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: gonna say, how when when you signed the coal how 271 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: was that and what made you decide to sign to him? 272 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: Because he is a rapper's an artist. He might not 273 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: know about R and B music, and you know, you 274 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: kind of have to trust his lead. Wow. I think 275 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: it was just immediately like a family situation. Like I 276 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: was living in Charlotte, North Carolina for so long and 277 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: I was just ubering it up, and you know, I 278 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: would travel back and forth to Raleigh at this uh 279 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: place that he made for to create music for all 280 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: of these artists call the Shelter, and a lot of 281 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: us would just be like hanging out in there and 282 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: just making music, and it felt like home. It felt 283 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: like a second home. I hated having to go back 284 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: to my mom's house, and well, I loved my mom 285 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: in her house, but you know, I I loved going 286 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: to Raleigh and feeling like I'm doing something with my 287 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: life and I'm learning so much about life in this 288 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: music business. So yeah, he does his homework a lot too, 289 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: Like he's yeah into it, like he's he has no 290 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: ego when it comes to he asking anyone questions that 291 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: I respect that. And what did your mom and your 292 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: family say when you were recording with Cole and going 293 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: out there and recording Because a lot of times parents 294 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: don't believe in the industry. Right, Well, my dad never 295 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: really knew what was going on in my life. Yeah, 296 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: I was. I mean he knew. He was the one 297 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: who always said you're gonna be something one day, Like 298 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: he always said that, but like he was kind of 299 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: always doing his own things, so he never really was 300 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: seeing that I was how serious I was about music, 301 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: which is why he was like, you should be a nurse. 302 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: But really he wanted to be a nurse. But anyway, 303 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: so my mom, um, where am I going with this? Yeah, 304 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: but my mom was very calm, very stable individual. She 305 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: just was just like forward, like happy for me, but yeah, 306 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: very supportive. She never really knew this like how I 307 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: don't think how like serious. But they always knew you 308 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: could sing. Yeah, they always needed to sing. And you 309 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: know what going back to Jacob interviewed Via recently and 310 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: she was saying how she wishes that every man could 311 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: make you know, as a woman going in the studio 312 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: working with a man, make you feel as comfortable as 313 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: Jacole made her feel working with him. Like she was like, 314 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: that's how it should be as a woman when you're 315 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: going to the studio, to feel like it's work, it's 316 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: genuine and it's not anything more than that. Yeah, absolutely, League, 317 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: He's definitely good. Beautiful energy. Um so so comforting, so comfortable, 318 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: like just amazing energy. So yeah, were you on any 319 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: day in the studio together when you did boy By? Huh, 320 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: we're me and lucky to say, Yeah, we were together 321 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: on the studios. So that was like ad libs that 322 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: y'all made up on the spot, ad libs freestyles. It 323 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: was just so natural, like he's amazing. I feel like 324 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: a lot of of love. I feel like you must 325 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: have cut out some of those conversations because it was 326 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: it's funny. But I'm sure y'all said a lot of 327 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: different things to each other, you know, to ad lib. Yeah, 328 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: and you're like what I wanted to cut out more. 329 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: I felt like there were certain things I probably should 330 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: have took out home that I like, but I kept him, 331 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: Like like like the erection part. I don't know if 332 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: that I don't know if that hurts a lot of 333 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: like grown folks out there, the Christians, what hurts it 334 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: depends out way. Oh my god, wait, talk about this morning? 335 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: Do you have any reservations as an R and B 336 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: singer signing to a rap label? Um no, I was 337 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: real pressed I was real excited, like it's Jay fucking cold, 338 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying in dream Bill, and 339 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: everybody's so cool and nice, So no reservations. I was excited. 340 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: You know that a song pressure was that about somebody 341 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: in particular? Pressure, No, it was really about me, honestly, 342 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: like like feeling myself and feeling really sexy and like 343 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: demanding that whoever comes into my life, like you have 344 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: to work. You know, you have to show me why 345 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: I should give you my time. And I want to 346 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: feel like you're attracted to me and like you respect 347 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: me and things like that. Did you know that something 348 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: be as big as it was? Hell? No, I But 349 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: all I cared about was how it made me feel. 350 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: And I loved it. When Jalen did the reference, I 351 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: was in love and I just wanted to sound like her, 352 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: and so I got in the studio and I tried 353 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: my best. Like the first time I heard that song, 354 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: I was like, this is a hit. I remember being 355 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: in and being like what is this who? Like I 356 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: didn't know what it was super early on, and I 357 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: was like, this song is a hit. That's one of 358 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: those songs. Like as soon as it started, like that's it, damn, 359 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: thank you Chills. And I also saw somewhere did you 360 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: record like ninety songs? Yeah, eighty songs? And yeah, how 361 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: do you whittle that down? Like who's part of that 362 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: process for you? Oh? I mean it's just me and 363 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: the crew, like we just unanimously decide like what we 364 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: love the best, and you know, you narrow it down 365 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: to like twenty. And then I wanted, like, you know, 366 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: off some like you know, Michael Jackson Thriller, you know, 367 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: like or Maxwell, Like how their songs are straight, like 368 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: their albums are like nine songs, Yeah, right to the point, 369 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: direct and beautiful, like that's my dream, Like that's my dream. 370 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: So that's what I wanted. I've really just wanted ten songs, 371 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: and but you know they they pushed for twelve, but 372 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: I just wanted ten. But yeah, that's basically how it 373 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: what happens to the other songs. So we released an 374 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: EP called Away Message right before and then I'm gonna 375 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: drop like a Christmas album. I think that has nothing 376 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: to do with Christmas. I wish what, no there, no 377 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: one could ever be competition to Mariah. She's everything. I 378 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: want to ask you about something you said earlier. You 379 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: said that your dad used to always tell you you're 380 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: gonna be something, You're gonna be something. Does that put 381 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: added pressure on a daughter with no? I think that's 382 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: probably you know what. And it sucks because we were 383 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 1: not even right now. Ill what's going on? Okay, so 384 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: we're not even speaking right now. But UM, I do 385 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: feel like when you instill certain things like that, it 386 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: really does go a long way. It goes a long 387 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: way for sure, because, um, that is the one area 388 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: in my life where I feel like I did really good. 389 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: Not speaking is it's something small that you can call 390 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: and it's so much shit. It's so much shit, so 391 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: like it, Um, I really think it's important for like 392 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: people to be healed when they're bringing kids into this world. Um, 393 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: because it's just like that alone. I feel like probably 394 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: innately helped me in so many ways, like always grinding 395 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: and shit like that. But UM, I could also see 396 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: the other shit like you know that I carry and 397 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: it's and it's um, I'm sure it has to do 398 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: with the other ship. You know that you go through 399 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: trauma and ship. Let me let me tell you something 400 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: I learned in therapy because the first time I had 401 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: a breakthrough in therapy was literally realizing all the daddy 402 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: issues I had. Yeah, So when me and my dad 403 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: had a conversation and I realized, damn, he was a 404 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: human before he was my dad, and he had his 405 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: own issues self distribus issues, dealing with mental health issues, 406 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: and he was just doing the best he could with 407 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: what he had at the time. It allowed me to 408 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: give him a lot more grace. Yes, and I got 409 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: to give our parents great I know, And I feel 410 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: like there needs to be a lot of group therapy 411 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: about and of course I want to continue my therapy alone, 412 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: but I think that would probably be best because I 413 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: know these are things I'm even carrying into my dating life, 414 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, and I just don't 415 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,239 Speaker 1: want to have that weight on me. And I do 416 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: want to be more compassionate because he went through a lot, 417 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: you know, with foster care and abandonment issues and all 418 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: kinds of like dark things. So I do recognize like 419 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: why he is the way that he is. But in 420 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: our generation is the generation, we're the first generation I 421 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: think that has the luxury of healing. Yeah, you know, 422 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: even though my dad went to therapy two and three 423 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: times a week and he tried to kill himself thirty 424 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: years ago. He was on. He was on tend to 425 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: talk different medications for his mental mental health, but he 426 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: never told me those things. Wow, we're healing out loud, right, 427 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: you know. Right, So there's no instruction manual. When it 428 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: comes to kids, it's always trying to figure out. Know, 429 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: Charlemagne has four kids. I have six, and it's something 430 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: different with each kid. You know, you just try to 431 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: figure it out. You know some kids, you know, I'm 432 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: from the era where you know, my parents beat me 433 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: and says sit in the corner right wrong. But we 434 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: don't do that to these kids now because they speak better. 435 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: Already said like to traumatize a child with the most 436 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: little things, like something you say like it's amazing. Just quote. 437 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: I literally just thought this this morning, and I do 438 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: this all the time with my kid. But the quote is, 439 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: apologize to your children when you lose your cool. They 440 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: don't understand why you're upset, and they deserve an explanation 441 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: and an apology. It doesn't matter that they're little, they're 442 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: little humans too. Communicating with them will make it easier 443 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: for them to talk to you one day. Yes, yes, yes, 444 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: And you've been really open about going to therapy. When 445 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: did you decide that that was something you wanted to 446 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: do this year? I was just tired of just being 447 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: a big ball of like traumas, like just being unaware 448 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: of like what was going on inside, and like you 449 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: know a lot of times I could be so triggered 450 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: and it's just like, well why, And now I'm realizing, 451 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 1: now I see, like why somebody's just pretending like I 452 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: don't exist, or like not even looking at me, or 453 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: like kind of having like this arrogant nature can be 454 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: so triggering, Like where did I see that? Like earlier 455 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: in my for experience that like I'm starting to realize 456 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: it never stops. It's like a cycle. Like if you 457 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: don't realize that you're carrying all of this way, it 458 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 1: comes out in different ways and it people be like 459 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: why she freaked out. It wasn't even that serious. It's 460 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: it was a reminder. It was a flashback, probably a 461 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: trigger without even realizing where it came from. There's always 462 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: something in our childhood. Yeah, always something that happened in 463 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: our childhood and it brings you that happens to you 464 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: in a doult when when it happened, you get triggered. 465 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: You're like, Oh, that's what that's why therapy is Gregs like, oh, 466 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: that's why I'm reacting, Like because of what happened here. Yes, 467 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: and it's it's been really beautiful and like eye opening 468 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: for sure. Are you healing those those childhood wounds? Oh definitely. 469 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: I want to keep going deeper. Um, I want to 470 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: go deeper with it. But yeah, this this start is 471 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: happening for sure. And you said you see a lot 472 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: of that in the relationships that you have. Now, like, 473 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: what are some things and patterns Like I know you 474 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: said you want to be more sympathetic, So what are 475 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: some things that you feel like, Okay, I gotta work 476 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: on this, damn things. I gotta work on, probably how 477 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm communicating. I'm a very anxious person, so like basically 478 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: instead of saying I've said this before, but instead of 479 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: saying like nobody cares, like it's just about well, you know, 480 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: I feel like this is how I'm feeling, like you 481 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: know that I'm not being heard or you know what 482 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I try to work on how I'm 483 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: communicating because I get so kind of in my own 484 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:40,239 Speaker 1: anxiety and mess that I can kind of be a 485 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: little insensitive sometimes, So I just want to work on 486 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: like that. And when it comes to performing and getting 487 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: on stage, are you the type of person who gets 488 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: nervous before that or does it all go away and 489 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: that's where you feel most comfortable? You know? Most times 490 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: I have, Most times, I rarely getting nervous like that nervous. Um. 491 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: I think it's just you get used to it. But 492 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: certain things like TV performances, I like I'm shaking, Like 493 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm so freaking nervous. It's like certain things, or like 494 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: going on stage with Summer Walker and when we did 495 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: our show and when she did her show in LA 496 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: and I came on her set. Um, I was so 497 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: freaking scared, Like it's just certain things. Or Jasmine Jasmine 498 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: like at the when we performed at the BT Awards, like, um, horrified, 499 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to let this legend down, Like 500 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: Jasmine Sullivan is everything. So yeah. Question when you get 501 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: triggered by secret rappers, do you remember the scruggle rapper 502 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: who traumatized you? Oh? So many, so many. Yeah, people 503 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: will never hear of There's so many, right, people we 504 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: never hear of. Um, Like they just they won't say it. 505 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: Until like you like him and it's just like, oh, 506 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm about to go to the studio. Why, Like when 507 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: they don't know who you are, when they want to 508 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: date you and act like, oh my god, like hey, 509 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: what's what do you do? You know, and act like 510 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: they're not sure who you are. Yeah, I've I've been. 511 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: They'll never admit it, but I've definitely been in a 512 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: relationship where he acted like I was not who I 513 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: am at all. That's ridiculous. Yeah, and I and I 514 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: I was trying to like feel appreciated and it was 515 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: it was he kept trying to say. It was just 516 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: it's ego, like, you know, it's not all about you 517 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: type thing. But really, I just felt like he always 518 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: kind of diminished everything about me, you know, like kind 519 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: of pretended like this singing part didn't even exist. I 520 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: hate people like that. Don't trying to make me feel 521 00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: small because you're dil Yeah, oh my god, Oh my god. 522 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: I didn't mean that literally, you know what I mean? 523 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I want to know what 524 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? People that try to make 525 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: us feel small just because they haven't done what they 526 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: want to do in life. Yeah, I guess so but 527 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: now I know him. Shut up Jesus, but now I know, 528 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: like I just my goal is just just a date 529 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: nice people like I just want to make sure whoever 530 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm dating is nice. And now I know like the 531 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: red flags of like, okay, this person is mean and 532 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: stay away from the meaning. It's got to be hard, though, 533 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: because you're Ari Linux now for you don't know who well, 534 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: you don't know who likes you for you or who 535 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: likes you because you're a superstar where you guys beside 536 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: the you know plenty of fish like where you meaning Well, 537 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: the other day I met a guy at the Ashton 538 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 1: show that was really nice and he was he was 539 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: so fine, but the day get terrible. What was the date? Was? 540 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 1: His dress was probably better than yours? Hi dress? How 541 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: did he continue? How you're sitting there? He walks over. 542 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: He actually security first while we were sitting in a seat, 543 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: and he old, dang, I don't want nobody to but yeah, 544 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: sitting next to but I will tell you what you 545 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: could stop now? Yeah, he just he reached out and 546 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: introduced himself and like shook hands and it was really 547 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: cute and sweet. Was the first date the first day 548 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna tell you where it was. It was 549 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: a lovely restaurant, it really was. But he was late. 550 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: He was late. I think it's bad during fashion now 551 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: he supposed to be. Now he was. He was hanging 552 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: out with Ja Cole and um what it No, That's 553 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying my day. The whole team is like, stopped. 554 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: It's just not. It's not it's not. How can be fine? 555 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: Let me see what I know? It Maybe a referral 556 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: from somebody, like if you have friends and they're like 557 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: my boy, because I think that's good when people can 558 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: vet someone out and be like, he's actually really cool, 559 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: he's got his own thing going desperate. I don't I 560 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: don't want it. I don't want to referral. I just 561 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: really want to be at the grocery store. I want 562 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: to be at the g to the grocery store. Yeahcer 563 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: oh I do. I do. Love me some Insta car, 564 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: but I yeah, I go to Giant and safe Way. 565 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: Maybe you should drive uber again again. Maybe just stop 566 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: looking for a man, just setting attention and let let 567 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: God work it out. I kind of stopped. I definitely stopped, 568 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: but then I got on Riyah again, So I don't know. 569 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: I want to see what Rya is like. It's it's 570 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: kind of cute because there's a lot of people, you know, 571 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people that are on there that are 572 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: like some people don't believe it's them either, Yeah, you know, yeah, 573 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: I believe it's them and it's me. So here I am. 574 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: What about somebody from the past that you've known, like 575 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: John John, I know, Well, it's the least I could 576 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: do and shout him out. He really helped me with 577 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: that writing. And I don't hate him anymore. I really 578 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: did more. Yeah, I really care about him. I mean 579 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: he was so sweet when I've lived in Atlanta for 580 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: a while. He helped me move into my apartment. Like 581 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: it's just little things like that, like just a genuine man. 582 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 1: So I have no beef with him anymore. Like I'm 583 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: very forgiving, Like if you're nice to me, I'll be 584 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 1: nice to you. But if you treat me like shit, 585 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: it's like damn, Like I get it. Yeah, It's like 586 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: why are we being mean to each other? Like human 587 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: and human? Like why can't we be nice? We spend 588 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: all this time to get other, Like why does it 589 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: have to end so terrible? You know? So John, I 590 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: just want to tell you, don't be corny. Okay, just 591 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: be cool. You might have a chance. Don't don't do 592 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: no Instagram live after this. He's so cool like back 593 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: he he hates the spotlight, so that's perfect. Yeah, but no, 594 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: not for me. It's not we he went and got married. 595 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 1: Oh no, he's not married anymore. Okay, but unfortunately unfortunately, Yeah, 596 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: and he he's doing his own thing. I'm I'm looking 597 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: for you know, I don't know. But if you wanted 598 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: to you you want no, no, no, that's like so close, 599 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: so close. He's sweet, But it's let's talk about the music. 600 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: What was your intention with this album? The intention was 601 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: just me showcasing dating and its entirety from I was 602 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: trying to get away from dating. But she used to 603 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: bought us right back. I know. That's what it's all right, 604 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: it's on subject for and it's where you all right, 605 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: you know what lot of people can relate to you. 606 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: That's one of the main questions people ask. How do 607 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: you find somebody like, somebody good, somebody nice, you know, 608 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: somebody with potential to be in a real relationship. Do 609 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: you think about marriage, like, are you dating with the 610 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 1: intention to get married? That's how you find somebody, probably 611 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: is how finding yourself really like, and so that's really 612 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: what I'm focused on. I got a little distracted with 613 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: that recent date and then I was like, well, let 614 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: me see what else is out here. But I think 615 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull back into like myself and just kind 616 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: of like change my number and just focus on, you know, 617 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: more more beautiful books on trauma and just focus on me. 618 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: I got a great one for you momenticum my grandmother's hands. 619 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: Really yeah, any naddie? Okay? We also have a Marian 620 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: Unbothered booking here. Wow? Is that about Trauma's It does 621 00:36:54,040 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: seem very unbothered. Oh wow, looks so adorable. Okay right, 622 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, I have to get the book back. 623 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: No singers, no singers, no rapper. What about ball players 624 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: you said earlier? Oh, if he played basketball, he doesn't 625 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: mention that. Maybe a soccer player with the money at 626 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: is that money yet real money at soccer? Okay, I'm 627 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: just we have intentions, that's all. Did you finish your 628 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: thought on the intentions of this album? The intention of 629 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: the album is just um, a lot of crushes, I mean, 630 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: just making beautiful music that sounds like I'm in love 631 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: based on crushes of people I've never even hung out 632 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: with before, like mean mug and hoodie crushes on you know, 633 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: fine men that I never even hung out with, and 634 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: then it gets to blocking you. Towards the end, it 635 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: gets the blocking you And That's where I'm at right 636 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: now with it, like in real life. But yeah, it's 637 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: just dating and the emotions, and towards the end of 638 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: the album, I'm definitely more about like, Okay, it's time 639 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: to protect my peace, Like no one's gonna do that 640 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 1: for me. And I find it irresponsible to be moving 641 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 1: around in life with all of these unhealed you know, 642 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: traumas and trying to you know, get to know people. 643 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: So I just, you know, I want to check some things, 644 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: some codependency things and anxiety things that people fast about 645 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: Black people fast if they ignore you just black. I do. 646 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: Like one time, one time, this guy was like, um, 647 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: he was like I was. I felt that there was 648 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,479 Speaker 1: distance happening, and I was like, hey, can we talk? 649 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: I feel like something is changing. He was like all right, 650 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: you know what. I know. He was like I thought 651 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: we were good. I thought everything was good. Um, you 652 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: know what just need to get something to eat. I'm 653 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: gonna call you right back. And so I got on 654 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: the phone my dad and me and my dad talked 655 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: for like two hours and I didn't hear from the guy. 656 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: And I'm looking at my phone like wow, like and 657 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: so I blocked him. After that, I blocked the guy. 658 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: After that. I we spoke one time since then and 659 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: quick yet, yeah, had had he eaten? I'll never know, 660 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: be scrash anything to eat? But yeah, I'm sure for 661 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: some reason I'm attracting avoidant people who don't know how 662 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: to communicate. Well, well, you're probably attracting what you are. 663 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: That's why what you said about, you know, healing your 664 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: own trauma before you get into another situation. It's so 665 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: important that right there, that's better than money. You know 666 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: how we are you know about to say, you know 667 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 1: how we always say you need a man with money, 668 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: but did you you know, you know, but you really 669 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: want a man that is doing the work like you're 670 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: doing the every I got so many home girls to say, 671 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: I can't date a man if they're not in therapy, 672 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: if they're not trying to heal. Wow. Yeah, yeah, And 673 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 1: that's what I would want for myself, A secure individual 674 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,720 Speaker 1: and or someone who's striving to be secure and healing 675 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,919 Speaker 1: as well as I am healing and trying to heal. 676 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, do you feel like this album is healing 677 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: for you? Yeah? I do believe. So it's it's definitely 678 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: me being more firm about my standards, like at least 679 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: like eventually, like that the eye opening, Like, Okay, there's 680 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 1: a problem here, Like I keep romanticizing romance so much 681 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: so that I'm neglecting like my own needs and shit, 682 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: Like it's it's just time to it's time to heal, 683 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: it's time to set my standards, and yeah, I'll be 684 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: okay with being single. You know, I want to ask you, 685 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: what did you think, because you know you are one 686 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: of the leaders of this new R and B era, 687 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 1: what did you think of do these comments that R 688 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: and B is dead. I thought it was dismissive to 689 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: all of the amazing, incredible, legendary artists that have been 690 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: in the game and that are also contributing. I mean, 691 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: from Mary J. Blige to Jasmine Sullivan to Summer Walker 692 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: to Elm to Money Long, Van Jesse, you know, Lucky 693 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: Lucky Day, Aaron Ray. There's so many of us t Nariel, 694 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: Brent Fiz, Jalen, Jossi, Um, and I forgive me if 695 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: he her Yes, yes, let's you know Jill st Sissa, 696 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: like everyone is still killing it and dropping music, and 697 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,919 Speaker 1: it was dismissive just because I don't know Tink Yeah, 698 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: Tank exactly amazing. Yeah, I don't know why he said that. 699 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: It was not nice, but I do love all that 700 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: he's contributed to music, So it's no shade, but it's 701 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: like being more nice to the people that are really 702 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, we're out here still like stopping often. Wonder 703 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: when you was young trying to get on, what did 704 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: you think the industry would be like? And what have 705 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: you realized? You know, it really is wow? Oh what 706 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: did I think it was gonna be like? I don't remember. 707 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 1: I just knew. I just I saw Bow Wow up 708 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: there and Joe Joe, and I just wanted to be 709 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,439 Speaker 1: like them, Like when I was young, I just wanted 710 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: to be like them, or you know, just listening to 711 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 1: Mariah Carey, I wanted to be like her. You know, Um, 712 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: what did I think? I don't know what I thought, 713 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: like maybe I thought there was gonna be like a 714 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 1: lot of like devil people illuminatis that I haven't yet 715 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 1: to see that. I thought there would be a lot 716 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: of cocaine, yet I've yet to see. I've never seen 717 00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 1: it before, never sacrifice or something. I don't think i've 718 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: ever seen okain before either. No, yeah, exactly, I've been 719 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: offered it, but I've never seen it. It was never 720 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: been offered. I don't believe or have offered it twice 721 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: in my life. But but they didn't like have it 722 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 1: in their hand. Wow. They were like, do you party? Yeah, 723 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: then I have been offered it before them. Well, yes, 724 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: in the bathroom. Yes, that's what that meant. Oh my god, 725 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: you've been offer cocaine. I haven't offered cocaine party. I 726 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: didn't take it. We need a ten second break right fast, 727 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: because your stolence wants to fix your hair. So we'll 728 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: count it down ten. I can't tell you do everything 729 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: multi hyphen for three two one. All right, now we're back. 730 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: We never had that before. In the middle of the interview, now, 731 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: cocaine cocaine, But are lenics? Do you know how beautiful 732 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: you are? Oh? Thank you? Yes, I do? You do? 733 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: I do, I promise I do? All right, I just 734 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 1: want to make sure. Yeah, have you, thank you, you 735 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: are beautiful, But have you realized what the industry acts is? 736 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: What is it now? What is it? Do you when 737 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: you if somebody said you are right, what is the industry? Industry? 738 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Like? What do you mean? Just 739 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: in general? Like people that aren't on, you know, they 740 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: want to know what the inside of the industry looks like. Well, 741 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: it can be very sweet, it can be cutthroat, it 742 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 1: can be depressing. Honestly, the industry, Yeah, that's everything in life. 743 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: But it's it's really not just the industry. It's I 744 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: guess it's what you surround yourself with. If you're online 745 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: all the time, you're gonna see you're gonna experience some 746 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: negative things. Like with anything, too much of anything, you're 747 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: gonna see some negative things. And I think it depends 748 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: on who you are too. Some people are really in 749 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: the mix, Like like I work with Jay Electronica. He 750 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: is like not around anyone ever, you know, he's like 751 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 1: in Mexico working on you know. And I think it 752 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: depends on what you decide your boundaries are and what 753 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: you and I don't see Ari Lennox like out all 754 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,919 Speaker 1: the time doing cocaine. Thank you yeah, I don't see 755 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: you like out doing cocaine with people and you're not. 756 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 1: Some people have like friends and they're like, oh, this 757 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: is my bestie and one day they're best friends with 758 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: this person and Hank, I don't see you doing things 759 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: like that, as definitely thought. But we just were talking 760 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: about it, you know, because because some people think that, 761 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 1: like you said, some people think the industry is like 762 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: you said, you know, people doing cocaine and the devilish things, 763 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: but it really is. All your friends are in the 764 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: We do appreciate you, We appreciate your music, and you know, 765 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: we were kind of I was kind of hurt when 766 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: you said you don't want to do interviews anymore. I 767 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: was like, don't let one bad, you know. Yeah, you know, 768 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: interaction with somebody mess up somebody else, you know. And 769 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're over that, and I'm glad you're doing 770 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 1: interviews again. Thank you. I want people to understand that 771 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: was just a part of my anxious nature of like 772 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: what I met earlier, when I was just like, nobody 773 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: cares I a worst case scenario and jump to like 774 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: like the extreme. I'm kind of black and white with 775 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: things especially, Yeah, and I definitely didn't mean that. I 776 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: was just so heartbroken by the fact that he would 777 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: release something that we didn't agree on him releasing, and 778 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: I just kind of felt ambushed, you know. So yeah, 779 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: I got one more question. What would a perfect music 780 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: career look like to you? To keep to keep you 781 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: in a good space mentally and emotionally? Oh wow, perfect, 782 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: I would say, Just I don't know, man, Like maybe 783 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: I don't know to keep being able to do soul 784 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: and to make a billion dollars you know, it's maybe 785 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: surfaced and basic, but I mean, but not everything that 786 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: comes with it. Probably just released the music, but not 787 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: the fame, not the fame aim, not the heartbreak or 788 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: like the cloud chasing energies or just literally just I'm 789 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: creating music with my soul, which is you know, in 790 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,959 Speaker 1: creating a space where people can heal and have peace 791 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: listening to my music. But also like I can pay 792 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: off my mom's bills, I can pay off my bills 793 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 1: and like, you know, my family, like my true like 794 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: circle that like I just want to make sure they're 795 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 1: good for life. Like, yeah, that would be a dream. 796 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: Oh are you on? Are you on tour to promote 797 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 1: that project? Eventually? I will be um in January, I believe, 798 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: maybe so shout out to Rob Gibbs and we'll see. 799 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: Let's get into a record off the album what you 800 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: want to hear? Oh? I guess boy bye because that's 801 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,919 Speaker 1: the real sexy record. Lucky Day is awesome. I can't 802 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: wait to see you on TV and movies too. I 803 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: see that in your future. That's so sweet. Yeah, we 804 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: need to get with Sean DERs and do this mini 805 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: series how to get a We're rapping, Oh my god, 806 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: struggle rapping, brilliant thriller. Yes well, Ari Alenics, thank you 807 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: for joining us. It wasn't that bad. It was beautiful energy. Wow. 808 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: And we prayed before we came. You talk to much? 809 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: Are you talking about? Why do you talk? Yes? Why 810 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: do you talk so much? Because I love you? Pa. No, 811 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: not the day you talk too much? You guys, this 812 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: is about about so we prayed together as a family. 813 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? God? We said an intention 814 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: before the interview. That's what we did. Radio felt that 815 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,760 Speaker 1: they don't ever date a radio personality. That's what almoself want. Okay, almost, 816 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: I won't really, that's all. No more, you can't do that. 817 00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: Let's Payola. Yea, I don't want that playing, are you 818 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: so much? Two hundred spent a Lynxister Breakfast Club. Good morning,