WEBVTT - #35 - Katori Walker 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:18.960 Jesus Christ, wetleg Can't Podcast. Yes we are. Hey, welcome 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:21.400 to another edition of the Bootleg motherfucking Can't Podcast. Man, 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:25.799 I hope you enjoying your goddamn Can't podcast ship, whatever 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.120 day it is, man, salute to everybody who's locked in. 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:30.520 We're gonna be dropping a lot of dope episodes in 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:34.000 the coming weeks. Also, I'm really trying to tap in. Man. 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:35.680 If you listen to the uh uh you know, to 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.159 the podcast on Twitter on Twitter. 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I really 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:27.800 don't give a shit whatever, bruh, but yeah, tap in 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.039 with me Twitter, Instagram, Apple Lake hev with your feedback. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.720 We got a dope episode today with the homie Katori Walker. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.040 Shout out to Katory Walker, who's been making noise man 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.319 out of Pasadena for a minute. And I feel like 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.880 this year, you know, a lot of people have taken 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.520 advantage of the pandemic in a good way and not 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:44.800 kind of let that. You know, there's been a lot 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:46.840 of people using it as an excuse as to why 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.360 they're slowing down, and Katori Walker has done quite the opposite. 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:54.440 He put out a project called Idols that is extremely dope. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.720 It pretty much pays homage to all of the idols 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:05.960 on the musical side that he has, Kendrick fifty Cent, 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:11.200 Kanye West, j Cole Drake, etc. And I really enjoyed 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:12.440 it so much. I was like, man, I gotta have 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:14.000 this guy come up and just have a good conversation 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:15.680 because I know he's got a dope taste in hip 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.519 hop and he could wrap his ass off, which is 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.000 why there also be a freestyle dropping from Katory Walker 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.240 beginning of next week. 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It's the boutleg cap podcast Bootleg Cap Podcast. 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:27.399 Katory Walker's here, Ladies and Gentlemen, Pasadena's Finest, Pasadiena's fine 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:31.079 as Wow, that's a big title. Who else is from pasadenas? Uh? 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.040 Like I said, he got tied to Pasidiena. I don't 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:35.000 know if he was born there, but I know his 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.280 family's from there. Who else is in Pasadena? There's a 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.080 lot of up and coming arts of Pastena. Do you 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:44.440 know you know Overdose? Yeah? Yeah, I didn't know they 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.320 were from Pasadena? Yeah, yeah, So what happened to those guys? 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.240 I don't know. I know Ken Jams are doing this thing. 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:53.520 I interviewed them and they were hilarious. Those guys were hilarious. 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.760 Shout out to Overdose. But welcome man. You're having a 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:02.400 pretty crazy year. You're project idols. Would you say that 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.520 as a body of work, this has been the your 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:10.920 biggest body of work as far as like recognition performance, 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.480 because you had it like like like were you ranking 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.760 this one at I would say, this is my most 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.080 free body of work and this is my most like 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:19.839 honest body of work. This is the one like the 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.640 ones that I'm most proud of, you know, like you know, 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.200 every other body of work has done different things for me, 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:26.680 but this one is just like, Yo, all right, this 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.560 dude can really do his damn thing, you know. Yeah. 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.160 For people who are listening who might not have heard 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.960 of you, you put a record out called Idols, and 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:39.680 the concept of the album was really to pay homage 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.800 to your idols in the music industry. It's an EP. 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:50.920 Each record is dedicated to we got what, Kendrick, Cole, Drake, Kanye, 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:55.360 and then one to yourself, one to myself. Yeah, when 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.560 you were making like like it was the idea a 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.080 conscious idea when you were record it or did you 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:04.320 like hear the songs be like you know what this 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.400 this was like? Like like or did you do? It? 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.719 Was everything on purpose? I think half of the project 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.920 was on purpose. I think I did. I did one 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.120 song and I was actually trying to mimic Cold, like yeah, 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:16.599 I want to do a Cold flow in this one. 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.760 And I was a record that I didn't even make 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.040 the project actually because I had two Cold records. So 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:22.719 I'm like, Yo, this this is dope. And then I 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.720 did a Kendrick record. I'm like, Yo, this is dope. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.560 You know. And then after that, I was just like, Yo, 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.240 I'm gonna put this all together and make this a 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.440 body of work, you know, And like the last ones 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.160 I did was the fallback record for myself and then 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.400 the higher hopes to Kanye won because I was like 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.719 the toughest thing to do because Kanye is like a 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.640 Swiss army knife. So how do you Yeah, Kanye's he's 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.360 my favorite artist. Yeah, he's an artist for real, bro, Yeah, 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:46.280 more than a fan of Jesus Is King. I'm not 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:49.400 gonna lie, but you know, discography wise, nobody can fuck 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.080 with you. Yeah. I think I think the thing that 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.159 I got from Jesus is King is I felt that 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.480 peace listening to it. It wasn't the best lyrical album, 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.680 it wasn't the best mixed album at all, but it 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.320 felt peaceful. It was great production. There was some great 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.120 production on there. Shout out to boost the Beasts. But 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.440 but yeah, it's dope because like, not a lot of 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.640 people pay homage to fifty as much as they should. 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:14.799 Fifty is a pioneer, bro. Fifty is like his run 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.600 was so it was it was. I mean his run 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.320 at the top was short, right, It was two albums 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.680 long plus the g Unit album and then you know, 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.520 the Curtis came out and things kind of were left. 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:27.159 But you know, we're talking Get Rich or Die Trying 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:31.560 is like I feel like, unarguably a top five album 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.200 of all time. You could put it higher, but I 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:35.839 feel like if you put it any lower than five, 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.240 you're you're fucking lyon or you're a hater. But like, 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.799 definitely dope. Like to see someone pay homage to fifty 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.520 because I feel like that happens. A lot of people 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.120 pay homage this year, like a lot of people. I 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.480 think it was what three or four mini men. Oh yeah, 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:48.840 that was a lot. You know, you're right, it's a 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.240 good year for fifty twenty one. Savage did it, Pop 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.160 Pop Smoke did it. Yeah, and I did it. Yeah. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:54.680 I don't know who else did it, but yeah, so 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.359 and it was all that same record, and I was 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.120 all Get Rich of Die Trying. So yeah, he's getting 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.880 to respect he deserved. Fifty had a video game, bro, 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.080 like not a lot of right hey, and it wasn't 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.320 a bad game. It's a great game. That shit was solid. 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.039 You'd be with young Buck Lloyd Banks, spring up fools 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.119 in Iraq, Like what the fuck is going on? Fifty 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.280 fifty had a crazy run. That was the first time 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.360 I was listening to fifty when I was I think 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:17.840 I think that was what two thousand and two when 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.160 that came out two thousand and one, three two. I 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.160 think you're right. Two thousand and three. Prob. That was 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:25.720 when I first started writing my own raps because when 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.120 I was young, I used to have like my uncles 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:28.720 wrap myself for me. So I was listening to get 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.880 rich of I try and trying to pin out some 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.360 shit like to mimic fifty. So that's why that album 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.680 meant the world to me. And the Unit album was 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.640 fired Bag for Mercy was crazy. That was a great album. 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.239 Fifty was like I don't think he got enough credit 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.640 for his hooks. Bro oh, oh my god. That's why 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.560 when they were talking about like the Game in fifty verses, 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.760 I was like, like, Game is an a legend. I 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.440 love Game, love his music, but like his biggest songs 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.360 that he could play have fifty cent on them. Yeah 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.760 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And it's like, how 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.160 would that work? They both wrap it together. Yeah, it's 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:03.960 a point for each It's like a point for each 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:08.400 but yeah, and then the artwork. What was dope about 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.200 your artwork for your project was it just kind of 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:15.920 incorporated all of that on like in a very tasteful way. 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.120 Whose idea was was the artwork? So me and my 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.560 creative manager, his name is Cash, we had just been 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.320 trying to figure out how to mash everybody's like face 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.560 together and just looked at weird. So then I'm like, yo, 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.960 let's take a piece of each every each album that 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.120 we liked the most from every artist and make it 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.760 a thing. And then we just was like, okay, cool, 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.280 We're gonna take the border from Kendrick, We're gonna take 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.000 the heart from Kanye, We're gonna take the sky from Dragon, 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.439 take the crown from Cole, and we're like, what the 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.920 fuck we're gonna do for fifty I was like, y'all, 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:44.400 let's just sit on it. He hit me back an 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.920 hour later, like check your text, like I've seen the 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.640 bullet holes. I'm like, my god, it's done. It's done. Here. 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:51.319 I was sending people that album covered before it even 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.080 came out, like yo, just look, you don't even to hear, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:54.640 you don't even need to hear. Just look at the 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:58.800 album cover bro. When I when me and Head had 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:00.800 linked up with you, it was like almost two years 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:06.120 ago you had you were coming into a situation with Capital. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:11.640 What's the update or the status of your situation record 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:16.280 label wise? We cut to eyes. I'm now independent, you know, Capital. 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.280 We had our run, you know, we did our thing, 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.520 and I think for where I wanted to go and 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.120 what I'm trying to do, we just wasn't seeing eye 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.320 to eye. And then you know, Lord rest is my 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:26.040 a R. I ended up passing away. So it was 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:30.720 like that was just a thing, you know. So I'm 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.320 now independent. I want to be able to like freely move, 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:34.960 you know, do what you want to do. Yeah. Man, 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.000 I don't think you know, unless it's a bag player. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:38.920 I don't think labels got that much power these days. 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.280 You ain't lying, Yeah, I mean, look, but I was 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.280 just crazy because you got you're on the playlist that 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:46.440 you that the label would get you on anyway. Yeah, yeah, man, 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.960 I got on the playlist just off the strength. When 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:50.880 I first dropped, I wasn't on no playlist. And I 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.400 think Carl Cherry had heard it and was like, yo, 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.440 it's crazy. Yeah. I saw he was like tweeting tweeting 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.360 out your lyrics and shit. Yeah, and it's like, yo, 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.000 but I don't know you from nowhere, So that was 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:04.040 just an organic thing. Was just organic, bro, because you know, 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.800 he's like the gate the gatekeeper that everyone. Yeah, it 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:09.800 was organic bro. And he had hit me like, bro, 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:11.800 this is crazy, this is crazy, And I'm like, yeah, 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.800 I'm glad you tapping in with the music and speaking 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.920 of the label, this is something that the label had 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.600 had for a year, you know. Well, it's also kind 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:22.880 of like reaffirms the fact that you don't need the 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.560 label because really, what else, Like that's why that's what 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.559 they're there for, right, is to try to get you 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.440 placements or you know, but dog, if you are like 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.040 outside of a bag, like you said, yeah, what else, 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:35.880 what else do you need a label for? These days? 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.920 Like you're gonna give somebody twenty percent of what you're 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.400 doing to press upload. I want to ask you, So 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:42.920 we're going to go through the project and I want 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:44.480 you to tell me your favorite albums from each of 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.240 these artists. Well, obviously he's got to be giving your 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.439 dad trying for fifty out. Yeah, of course that goes 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.440 what I'm saying. By the way, Massacres, super swept on. Yeah, 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.760 but what about I mean, you say your favorite it 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:56.880 was eight awaits your favorite album since she used the heart. Nah, 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:02.000 that's just a symbol. It makes sense. Graduation, graduation, It's like, Bro, 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.240 that was impeccable. It's a great body of work. It's like, 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:07.720 I don't know, like I think everybody liked to say 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.360 my beautiful, dark twisted, but that I'm a Late Registration guy, 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.640 also older, older Kanye. Yeah, I love Late Registration. Yeah, 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:19.760 graduation was solid, and I just I don't know, man, 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.320 I Mike, I'm Mike. I'm not as high as graduation 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.560 on graduation as everyone else. I'm not. It's a great look. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:29.640 Kanye's got the best discography ever. Yeah, He's got a 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:33.360 great discography. I feel like Late Registration and College Dropout 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.400 were like brothers sister albums. It kind of sounded I 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:37.760 didn't hear that much evolution in the in the body 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.480 of work. They kind of very same. Nah, Late Registration 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:42.640 have John Brian on the production. It was so much 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:44.920 more like that. I feel like they could, they could 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:49.960 be a deluxe album of each other. I disagree, all right, 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.240 So let's say the jump from Late Registration and Graduation. 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.840 Those are two completely things, different things late Registration. I 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.240 feel like the jump from each album is very different. 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.079 I don't know, I feel like those two are in 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.360 the same ballpark. I feel like my Beautiful, dark, twisted 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.079 Fantasy is his best album because you really can't say 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.000 ship and then it's really up to you to say 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:11.840 what your favorite is. Yeah, yeah, these are two closest, 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.199 they sound sonically closest, they're the They're the closest out 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:21.079 of any two. Yeah. Yeah, Graduation, Yeah, Yeah, I just 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.880 got into an argument with somebody and YouTube was killing 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.360 me because I said I like Jesus more than Graduation. Yeah, 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:32.760 Jesus Is it's an unpopular king and Jesus, oh you're 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:37.880 fucking crazy, very unpopular opinion, and h I love Jesus, 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:43.960 Jesus Is King. Go somewhere else with that. Yeah, Yay 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.040 was slept on though. Yeay was a good album because 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:47.599 I feel like nobody really talking about mental health. That 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.880 song ghost Town, Yeah, it's hard to make a better 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.559 song than ghost Town. Man, that song was Crazy was 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.680 a great record too, Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure. Yeah, Yeah, 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.640 Yay was slept and then Kidsy ghost was like, yeah, 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.000 I feel like Kitsy Ghosts Sleeper for like one of 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.040 the best Kanye projects ever. Yeah, I've never really I know, 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:07.880 no line, no cap. I've never really been a Cutty 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.280 fan like that. It's crazy. I've never really been a 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.440 Cutty fan. No. I mean that's fair because I'm I'm 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:16.760 a I wouldn't say I'm the biggest Cuddy fan either. 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.040 I like dos a is a Cuddy. It's it's it's 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.160 it's like sit through a whole project to Cutty's probably 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.319 harder for me. Like my favorite cutting project is when 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.280 he was like still like really rapping, Like he had 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.680 a project called a Kid named Cuddy, a mixtape sponsored 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.520 by ten Deep, and then you know, the man on 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:39.360 the moonshit is cool. People love it, Like you can't 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.120 tell shit to a Kit Cutty fan because that'd be 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.880 like he's the greatest ever. Yeah, I mean you've met 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.160 those kinds of people, right, Yeah, bro, I mean yeah, 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:52.040 those Kid Cutty fans are fucking crazy. But I get it, 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.000 Like listen, man, this music is a beautiful subjective thing. 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.000 And I love Cuddy like you know in doses, I 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.480 just you know, I feel you on that. Yeah, he 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.920 got his He's at his niche audience for sure, sit 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:06.199 where he sits. But I got my taste and my flavors. Okay, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.360 what about Jake Coles, what's your favorite Cold project? All right, 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.240 so my favorite Cold project is definitely Born Center. Okay, 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.120 that's a great body of work. If not if not 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.840 Born Born Centered in twenty fourteen, but those are really 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.040 forests drivers kind of like the consensus. Yeah, but that's 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.440 when that's when he got the respect. He that's when 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.120 he got disrespect he deserved. But Boring Center came out 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.800 the same day as Jesus Bro. But I what I 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.600 think don't get enough credit is those truly yours EPs 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.120 that he put out. Yeah, my god, those by those 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:39.320 little projects was crazy. I think for just like nostalgic purposes. 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.440 I really enjoyed. I still like love Friday Night Lights. 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.040 Friday Night Lights is crazy. He was. That's I don't know. 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.440 I feel like he was just some super duper duper 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.960 and the warm up was crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:58.160 You know what's crazy is like with Cole like he 0:14:58.280 --> 0:14:59.960 bounced back. I was not a fan of his first 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.760 the album because there was so much old ship on there, 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.120 so much leaked ship, and you know what he did 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:06.720 on that first album. Me and you were just talking 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:10.480 about he was like purposely trying to make radio records. Yeah, diase, 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.480 because you remember like he couldn't get an album out, 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.360 like they kept strowing his ship out and then like 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.320 you know, there was like mister nice watch and work 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.360 out and all that shit. It was cool, But like 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.080 you said, I think Born Tender was like the first 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.040 time he just did what the fuck he wanted. Yeah, 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.720 I think where he met the nuts some ship for 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.560 the critics and ship for the crowd. I think that's 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.920 where he finally. Okay, this is a hard one Kendrick, 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.160 because I mean he's three for three if we're talking 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.240 major releases. Obviously, if you throw section eighty and there, 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.200 he was four for four. But like I mean, Kendrick's 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.920 got no misses on his Uh yeah, Kendrick is hard. 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:44.840 I think I'm gonna say good kid in mass City 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.920 because I felt like he literally was telling my story 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.400 bar for bar, Like I'm talking about like hitting the 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.880 house and shit like that and friends getting murdered and 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.800 all like literally word for word, bar for bar. I 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.480 was like I was, I was hurt, like, yo, guy, 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.280 why are you and somebody else tell my story like 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.800 this man's telling my story, so that that resonated me 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:08.880 with me differently. And then I liked to Pember Butterfly 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.080 cosonically there it sounds like nothing I've ever heard. Yeah, 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:13.560 if you put a gun in my head, I would say, 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.160 good Combat City. But to Piper Butterflies right there too, 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:20.680 and also to Pember Butterfly was like, it's age so well. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:22.360 When it came out, it was just I feel like 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.640 it's over everyone's head. Yeah, nobody couldn't up. I don't 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:27.760 think we were ready for that. After after second, I'm 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:31.880 not sec after it was like, Yo, I had to 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.160 listen to it a couple of times, and as I 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.400 listened to it, I'm like wow, and then damn, it 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.320 is just a fucking you know, just press plays hit 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:42.280 after after Yeah, broh is great. All right, last one, Drake, 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:48.080 that's a tough one. I will say as far Ours 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.280 albums is either gonna be take Care, probably take care, 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.840 take care. I want to say so far Gone because 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:56.880 that project did a lot for me. When I first 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:58.840 heard it, I was like, Yo, this is out of here. 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.080 But uh, I say take care. If y'all listen to 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.520 take care, Bro. That's hit after hit for sure. I 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:05.040 when the hip hop head say Drake don't have a 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.840 classic album, it's like, yo, bro, damn bro, that's me. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.320 I say take Care as the closest thing he has 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.280 to say Care not a classic album. Well, I'm not 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.239 even saying it's not a classic album because it might 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.240 be a classic to me and to you. But I 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.879 just don't feel like it's like a consensus classic, like 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:23.680 you know how like you say, like good Kid, Mad City, 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:28.160 it's like an undeniable classic take Care. People argue whether 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:31.160 or not it's a classic, and and so I think 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.719 take Care as a classic. Personally for me, it's a classic. 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.520 There's a lot of albums I person I just don't 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:41.680 think it's like a like a undeniable, consensus classic album, 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:43.720 like you know when you say Doggy Style, Get Richard 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.680 Die Trying, Like these are albums like nobody will ever 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:50.280 say anything different. Take Care is close. But like you said, 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.480 there's a lot of people who say Drake doesn't have 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.840 a classic album. I think take Care as a classic. 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.520 I just don't think it's like it's not a consensus 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.879 like yo, undeniable, nobody's gonna say shit to you if 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:07.520 you say, you know, a Quimini from Outcast is a classic, Like, 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.960 who's gonna say, like, you know what I'm saying, take care, 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:13.280 there's some, there's some, you know some, there might be 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.399 an argument. I had this argument with my manager the 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.800 other day, and I was like, go back and play 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:20.360 the album because I think a lot of people don't 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.000 realize that all those records were on that same album right, right, 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.240 right a lot of times because Drake had Drake has 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.280 had a crazy run. He's still in his run, right, 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.720 but at that time, he was just literally like he 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:33.520 owned the radio, he owned all the spaces. But Kendrick, yeah, bro, 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.639 like yeah, Kendrick had his own record on there. So 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.360 when you go back and listen, like how many hit 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:41.840 records he had on there that weren't like even for 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:43.920 a radio that's just like, yo, this is just Drake. 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.000 You know, I think you'll you can say that one 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.560 is a classic. I don't know what whatever Crew Level 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.879 was on there, right, yeah, yeah, crew Love. Yeah, you know, 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.000 I don't disagree with you. I think it's a classic, 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.240 but I just think that it's not like, you know, 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:02.199 I think I'm just waiting for Drake to drop a 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:06.719 project that like, upon first listen, you're like, oh my god. 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.440 And I'm not saying that take Care is not that, 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.880 but I just mean, like you can't say shit about 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.360 Good Kid Mass City. Yeah No, Like if someone told you, like, nah, 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.399 that ain't a classic, you know, like like you'd be like, 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.000 you're like, shut the fuck up. But a lot of 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:25.600 people whose opinion you would respect and hip hop might 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.199 not say to take Care as a class I just 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.840 mean it's a classic to me, to you subjectively, we 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:32.520