1 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, wetleg Can't Podcast. Yes we are. Hey, welcome 2 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: to another edition of the Bootleg motherfucking Can't Podcast. Man, 3 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoying your goddamn Can't podcast ship, whatever 4 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: day it is, man, salute to everybody who's locked in. 5 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna be dropping a lot of dope episodes in 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: the coming weeks. Also, I'm really trying to tap in. Man. 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: If you listen to the uh uh you know, to 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: the podcast on Twitter on Twitter. 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What kind of 18 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: content you want us to do more of? I understand 19 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: everyone thinks I interrupt people during my interviews. I really 20 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: don't give a shit whatever, bruh, but yeah, tap in 21 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: with me Twitter, Instagram, Apple Lake hev with your feedback. 22 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: We got a dope episode today with the homie Katori Walker. 23 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: Shout out to Katory Walker, who's been making noise man 24 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: out of Pasadena for a minute. And I feel like 25 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: this year, you know, a lot of people have taken 26 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: advantage of the pandemic in a good way and not 27 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: kind of let that. You know, there's been a lot 28 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: of people using it as an excuse as to why 29 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: they're slowing down, and Katori Walker has done quite the opposite. 30 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: He put out a project called Idols that is extremely dope. 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: It pretty much pays homage to all of the idols 32 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: on the musical side that he has, Kendrick fifty Cent, 33 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: Kanye West, j Cole Drake, etc. And I really enjoyed 34 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: it so much. I was like, man, I gotta have 35 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: this guy come up and just have a good conversation 36 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: because I know he's got a dope taste in hip 37 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: hop and he could wrap his ass off, which is 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: why there also be a freestyle dropping from Katory Walker 39 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: beginning of next week. But we just had a dope 40 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: rap conversational to talk to him about his project, his 41 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: come up, but also just a dope hip hop conversation. 42 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: So I hope you enjoy it. Katory Walker, make sure 43 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: you go tap in with him and tap in with 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: odd Socks. 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Some of them chuckies, you know what I'm saying, 54 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: some of them they got the sweetest fish joints. They 55 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: got them ramen noodle joints. How about some WWE how 56 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: about some Rick Flair socks some motherfucker. Yeah, go get 57 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: some odd socks at odd sooxofficial dot com keyword bootleg 58 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: caps save twenty percent off. Let's get into this Katori 59 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: Walker episode. It's the boutleg cap podcast Bootleg Cap Podcast. 60 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: Katory Walker's here, Ladies and Gentlemen, Pasadena's Finest, Pasadiena's fine 61 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: as Wow, that's a big title. Who else is from pasadenas? Uh? 62 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: Like I said, he got tied to Pasidiena. I don't 63 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: know if he was born there, but I know his 64 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: family's from there. Who else is in Pasadena? There's a 65 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: lot of up and coming arts of Pastena. Do you 66 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: know you know Overdose? Yeah? Yeah, I didn't know they 67 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: were from Pasadena? Yeah, yeah, So what happened to those guys? 68 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know Ken Jams are doing this thing. 69 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: I interviewed them and they were hilarious. Those guys were hilarious. 70 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Shout out to Overdose. But welcome man. You're having a 71 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: pretty crazy year. You're project idols. Would you say that 72 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: as a body of work, this has been the your 73 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: biggest body of work as far as like recognition performance, 74 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: because you had it like like like were you ranking 75 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: this one at I would say, this is my most 76 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: free body of work and this is my most like 77 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: honest body of work. This is the one like the 78 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: ones that I'm most proud of, you know, like you know, 79 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: every other body of work has done different things for me, 80 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: but this one is just like, Yo, all right, this 81 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: dude can really do his damn thing, you know. Yeah. 82 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: For people who are listening who might not have heard 83 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: of you, you put a record out called Idols, and 84 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: the concept of the album was really to pay homage 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: to your idols in the music industry. It's an EP. 86 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: Each record is dedicated to we got what, Kendrick, Cole, Drake, Kanye, 87 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: and then one to yourself, one to myself. Yeah, when 88 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: you were making like like it was the idea a 89 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: conscious idea when you were record it or did you 90 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: like hear the songs be like you know what this 91 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: this was like? Like like or did you do? It? 92 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: Was everything on purpose? I think half of the project 93 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: was on purpose. I think I did. I did one 94 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: song and I was actually trying to mimic Cold, like yeah, 95 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: I want to do a Cold flow in this one. 96 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: And I was a record that I didn't even make 97 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: the project actually because I had two Cold records. So 98 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, this this is dope. And then I 99 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: did a Kendrick record. I'm like, Yo, this is dope. 100 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: You know. And then after that, I was just like, Yo, 101 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this all together and make this a 102 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: body of work, you know, And like the last ones 103 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: I did was the fallback record for myself and then 104 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: the higher hopes to Kanye won because I was like 105 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: the toughest thing to do because Kanye is like a 106 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: Swiss army knife. So how do you Yeah, Kanye's he's 107 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: my favorite artist. Yeah, he's an artist for real, bro, Yeah, 108 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: more than a fan of Jesus Is King. I'm not 109 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: gonna lie, but you know, discography wise, nobody can fuck 110 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: with you. Yeah. I think I think the thing that 111 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: I got from Jesus is King is I felt that 112 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: peace listening to it. It wasn't the best lyrical album, 113 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't the best mixed album at all, but it 114 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: felt peaceful. It was great production. There was some great 115 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: production on there. Shout out to boost the Beasts. But 116 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's dope because like, not a lot of 117 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: people pay homage to fifty as much as they should. 118 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: Fifty is a pioneer, bro. Fifty is like his run 119 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: was so it was it was. I mean his run 120 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: at the top was short, right, It was two albums 121 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: long plus the g Unit album and then you know, 122 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: the Curtis came out and things kind of were left. 123 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: But you know, we're talking Get Rich or Die Trying 124 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: is like I feel like, unarguably a top five album 125 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: of all time. You could put it higher, but I 126 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: feel like if you put it any lower than five, 127 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: you're you're fucking lyon or you're a hater. But like, 128 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 1: definitely dope. Like to see someone pay homage to fifty 129 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: because I feel like that happens. A lot of people 130 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: pay homage this year, like a lot of people. I 131 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: think it was what three or four mini men. Oh yeah, 132 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: that was a lot. You know, you're right, it's a 133 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: good year for fifty twenty one. Savage did it, Pop 134 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: Pop Smoke did it. Yeah, and I did it. Yeah. 135 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't know who else did it, but yeah, so 136 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: and it was all that same record, and I was 137 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: all Get Rich of Die Trying. So yeah, he's getting 138 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: to respect he deserved. Fifty had a video game, bro, 139 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: like not a lot of right hey, and it wasn't 140 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: a bad game. It's a great game. That shit was solid. 141 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: You'd be with young Buck Lloyd Banks, spring up fools 142 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 1: in Iraq, Like what the fuck is going on? Fifty 143 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: fifty had a crazy run. That was the first time 144 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: I was listening to fifty when I was I think 145 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: I think that was what two thousand and two when 146 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: that came out two thousand and one, three two. I 147 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: think you're right. Two thousand and three. Prob. That was 148 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: when I first started writing my own raps because when 149 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: I was young, I used to have like my uncles 150 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: wrap myself for me. So I was listening to get 151 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: rich of I try and trying to pin out some 152 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: shit like to mimic fifty. So that's why that album 153 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: meant the world to me. And the Unit album was 154 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: fired Bag for Mercy was crazy. That was a great album. 155 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,239 Speaker 1: Fifty was like I don't think he got enough credit 156 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: for his hooks. Bro oh, oh my god. That's why 157 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: when they were talking about like the Game in fifty verses, 158 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: I was like, like, Game is an a legend. I 159 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: love Game, love his music, but like his biggest songs 160 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: that he could play have fifty cent on them. Yeah 161 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And it's like, how 162 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: would that work? They both wrap it together. Yeah, it's 163 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: a point for each It's like a point for each 164 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, and then the artwork. What was dope about 165 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: your artwork for your project was it just kind of 166 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: incorporated all of that on like in a very tasteful way. 167 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: Whose idea was was the artwork? So me and my 168 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: creative manager, his name is Cash, we had just been 169 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to mash everybody's like face 170 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: together and just looked at weird. So then I'm like, yo, 171 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: let's take a piece of each every each album that 172 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: we liked the most from every artist and make it 173 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: a thing. And then we just was like, okay, cool, 174 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna take the border from Kendrick, We're gonna take 175 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: the heart from Kanye, We're gonna take the sky from Dragon, 176 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: take the crown from Cole, and we're like, what the 177 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: fuck we're gonna do for fifty I was like, y'all, 178 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: let's just sit on it. He hit me back an 179 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: hour later, like check your text, like I've seen the 180 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: bullet holes. I'm like, my god, it's done. It's done. Here. 181 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: I was sending people that album covered before it even 182 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: came out, like yo, just look, you don't even to hear, 183 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: you don't even need to hear. Just look at the 184 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: album cover bro. When I when me and Head had 185 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: linked up with you, it was like almost two years 186 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: ago you had you were coming into a situation with Capital. 187 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: What's the update or the status of your situation record 188 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: label wise? We cut to eyes. I'm now independent, you know, Capital. 189 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: We had our run, you know, we did our thing, 190 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: and I think for where I wanted to go and 191 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do, we just wasn't seeing eye 192 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: to eye. And then you know, Lord rest is my 193 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: a R. I ended up passing away. So it was 194 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: like that was just a thing, you know. So I'm 195 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: now independent. I want to be able to like freely move, 196 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, do what you want to do. Yeah. Man, 197 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't think you know, unless it's a bag player. 198 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: I don't think labels got that much power these days. 199 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: You ain't lying, Yeah, I mean, look, but I was 200 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: just crazy because you got you're on the playlist that 201 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: you that the label would get you on anyway. Yeah, yeah, man, 202 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: I got on the playlist just off the strength. When 203 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: I first dropped, I wasn't on no playlist. And I 204 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: think Carl Cherry had heard it and was like, yo, 205 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: it's crazy. Yeah. I saw he was like tweeting tweeting 206 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: out your lyrics and shit. Yeah, and it's like, yo, 207 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: but I don't know you from nowhere, So that was 208 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: just an organic thing. Was just organic, bro, because you know, 209 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: he's like the gate the gatekeeper that everyone. Yeah, it 210 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: was organic bro. And he had hit me like, bro, 211 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: this is crazy, this is crazy, And I'm like, yeah, 212 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm glad you tapping in with the music and speaking 213 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: of the label, this is something that the label had 214 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: had for a year, you know. Well, it's also kind 215 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: of like reaffirms the fact that you don't need the 216 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: label because really, what else, Like that's why that's what 217 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: they're there for, right, is to try to get you 218 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: placements or you know, but dog, if you are like 219 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: outside of a bag, like you said, yeah, what else, 220 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: what else do you need a label for? These days? 221 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: Like you're gonna give somebody twenty percent of what you're 222 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: doing to press upload. I want to ask you, So 223 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: we're going to go through the project and I want 224 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: you to tell me your favorite albums from each of 225 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: these artists. Well, obviously he's got to be giving your 226 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: dad trying for fifty out. Yeah, of course that goes 227 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. By the way, Massacres, super swept on. Yeah, 228 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: but what about I mean, you say your favorite it 229 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: was eight awaits your favorite album since she used the heart. Nah, 230 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: that's just a symbol. It makes sense. Graduation, graduation, It's like, Bro, 231 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: that was impeccable. It's a great body of work. It's like, 232 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, like I think everybody liked to say 233 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: my beautiful, dark twisted, but that I'm a Late Registration guy, 234 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: also older, older Kanye. Yeah, I love Late Registration. Yeah, 235 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: graduation was solid, and I just I don't know, man, 236 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: I Mike, I'm Mike. I'm not as high as graduation 237 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: on graduation as everyone else. I'm not. It's a great look. 238 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: Kanye's got the best discography ever. Yeah, He's got a 239 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: great discography. I feel like Late Registration and College Dropout 240 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: were like brothers sister albums. It kind of sounded I 241 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: didn't hear that much evolution in the in the body 242 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: of work. They kind of very same. Nah, Late Registration 243 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: have John Brian on the production. It was so much 244 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: more like that. I feel like they could, they could 245 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: be a deluxe album of each other. I disagree, all right, 246 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: So let's say the jump from Late Registration and Graduation. 247 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: Those are two completely things, different things late Registration. I 248 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: feel like the jump from each album is very different. 249 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like those two are in 250 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: the same ballpark. I feel like my Beautiful, dark, twisted 251 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: Fantasy is his best album because you really can't say 252 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: ship and then it's really up to you to say 253 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: what your favorite is. Yeah, yeah, these are two closest, 254 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: they sound sonically closest, they're the They're the closest out 255 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: of any two. Yeah. Yeah, Graduation, Yeah, Yeah, I just 256 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: got into an argument with somebody and YouTube was killing 257 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: me because I said I like Jesus more than Graduation. Yeah, 258 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: Jesus Is it's an unpopular king and Jesus, oh you're 259 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: fucking crazy, very unpopular opinion, and h I love Jesus, 260 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: Jesus Is King. Go somewhere else with that. Yeah, Yay 261 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: was slept on though. Yeay was a good album because 262 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 1: I feel like nobody really talking about mental health. That 263 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: song ghost Town, Yeah, it's hard to make a better 264 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: song than ghost Town. Man, that song was Crazy was 265 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: a great record too, Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure. Yeah, Yeah, 266 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: Yay was slept and then Kidsy ghost was like, yeah, 267 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: I feel like Kitsy Ghosts Sleeper for like one of 268 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: the best Kanye projects ever. Yeah, I've never really I know, 269 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: no line, no cap. I've never really been a Cutty 270 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: fan like that. It's crazy. I've never really been a 271 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: Cutty fan. No. I mean that's fair because I'm I'm 272 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: a I wouldn't say I'm the biggest Cuddy fan either. 273 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: I like dos a is a Cuddy. It's it's it's 274 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: it's like sit through a whole project to Cutty's probably 275 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: harder for me. Like my favorite cutting project is when 276 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: he was like still like really rapping, Like he had 277 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: a project called a Kid named Cuddy, a mixtape sponsored 278 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: by ten Deep, and then you know, the man on 279 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: the moonshit is cool. People love it, Like you can't 280 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: tell shit to a Kit Cutty fan because that'd be 281 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: like he's the greatest ever. Yeah, I mean you've met 282 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: those kinds of people, right, Yeah, bro, I mean yeah, 283 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: those Kid Cutty fans are fucking crazy. But I get it, 284 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: Like listen, man, this music is a beautiful subjective thing. 285 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: And I love Cuddy like you know in doses, I 286 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: just you know, I feel you on that. Yeah, he 287 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: got his He's at his niche audience for sure, sit 288 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: where he sits. But I got my taste and my flavors. Okay, 289 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: what about Jake Coles, what's your favorite Cold project? All right, 290 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: so my favorite Cold project is definitely Born Center. Okay, 291 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: that's a great body of work. If not if not 292 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: Born Born Centered in twenty fourteen, but those are really 293 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: forests drivers kind of like the consensus. Yeah, but that's 294 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: when that's when he got the respect. He that's when 295 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: he got disrespect he deserved. But Boring Center came out 296 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: the same day as Jesus Bro. But I what I 297 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: think don't get enough credit is those truly yours EPs 298 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: that he put out. Yeah, my god, those by those 299 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: little projects was crazy. I think for just like nostalgic purposes. 300 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed. I still like love Friday Night Lights. 301 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: Friday Night Lights is crazy. He was. That's I don't know. 302 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: I feel like he was just some super duper duper 303 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: and the warm up was crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 304 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is like with Cole like he 305 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: bounced back. I was not a fan of his first 306 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: the album because there was so much old ship on there, 307 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: so much leaked ship, and you know what he did 308 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: on that first album. Me and you were just talking 309 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: about he was like purposely trying to make radio records. Yeah, diase, 310 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: because you remember like he couldn't get an album out, 311 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: like they kept strowing his ship out and then like 312 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, there was like mister nice watch and work 313 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: out and all that shit. It was cool, But like 314 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: you said, I think Born Tender was like the first 315 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: time he just did what the fuck he wanted. Yeah, 316 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: I think where he met the nuts some ship for 317 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: the critics and ship for the crowd. I think that's 318 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: where he finally. Okay, this is a hard one Kendrick, 319 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: because I mean he's three for three if we're talking 320 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: major releases. Obviously, if you throw section eighty and there, 321 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: he was four for four. But like I mean, Kendrick's 322 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: got no misses on his Uh yeah, Kendrick is hard. 323 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna say good kid in mass City 324 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: because I felt like he literally was telling my story 325 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: bar for bar, Like I'm talking about like hitting the 326 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: house and shit like that and friends getting murdered and 327 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: all like literally word for word, bar for bar. I 328 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: was like I was, I was hurt, like, yo, guy, 329 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: why are you and somebody else tell my story like 330 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: this man's telling my story, so that that resonated me 331 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: with me differently. And then I liked to Pember Butterfly 332 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: cosonically there it sounds like nothing I've ever heard. Yeah, 333 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: if you put a gun in my head, I would say, 334 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: good Combat City. But to Piper Butterflies right there too, 335 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: and also to Pember Butterfly was like, it's age so well. 336 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: When it came out, it was just I feel like 337 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: it's over everyone's head. Yeah, nobody couldn't up. I don't 338 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: think we were ready for that. After after second, I'm 339 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: not sec after it was like, Yo, I had to 340 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: listen to it a couple of times, and as I 341 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: listened to it, I'm like wow, and then damn, it 342 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: is just a fucking you know, just press plays hit 343 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: after after Yeah, broh is great. All right, last one, Drake, 344 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: that's a tough one. I will say as far Ours 345 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: albums is either gonna be take Care, probably take care, 346 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: take care. I want to say so far Gone because 347 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: that project did a lot for me. When I first 348 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: heard it, I was like, Yo, this is out of here. 349 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: But uh, I say take care. If y'all listen to 350 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: take care, Bro. That's hit after hit for sure. I 351 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: when the hip hop head say Drake don't have a 352 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: classic album, it's like, yo, bro, damn bro, that's me. 353 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: I say take Care as the closest thing he has 354 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: to say Care not a classic album. Well, I'm not 355 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 1: even saying it's not a classic album because it might 356 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: be a classic to me and to you. But I 357 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: just don't feel like it's like a consensus classic, like 358 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: you know how like you say, like good Kid, Mad City, 359 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: it's like an undeniable classic take Care. People argue whether 360 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: or not it's a classic, and and so I think 361 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 1: take Care as a classic. Personally for me, it's a classic. 362 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of albums I person I just don't 363 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: think it's like a like a undeniable, consensus classic album, 364 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: like you know when you say Doggy Style, Get Richard 365 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: Die Trying, Like these are albums like nobody will ever 366 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: say anything different. Take Care is close. But like you said, 367 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who say Drake doesn't have 368 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: a classic album. I think take Care as a classic. 369 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: I just don't think it's like it's not a consensus 370 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: like yo, undeniable, nobody's gonna say shit to you if 371 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: you say, you know, a Quimini from Outcast is a classic, Like, 372 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: who's gonna say, like, you know what I'm saying, take care, 373 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: there's some, there's some, you know some, there might be 374 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: an argument. I had this argument with my manager the 375 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: other day, and I was like, go back and play 376 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: the album because I think a lot of people don't 377 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: realize that all those records were on that same album right, right, 378 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: right a lot of times because Drake had Drake has 379 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: had a crazy run. He's still in his run, right, 380 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: but at that time, he was just literally like he 381 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: owned the radio, he owned all the spaces. But Kendrick, yeah, bro, 382 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: like yeah, Kendrick had his own record on there. So 383 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: when you go back and listen, like how many hit 384 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: records he had on there that weren't like even for 385 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: a radio that's just like, yo, this is just Drake. 386 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: You know, I think you'll you can say that one 387 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: is a classic. I don't know what whatever Crew Level 388 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: was on there, right, yeah, yeah, crew Love. Yeah, you know, 389 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. I think it's a classic, 390 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: but I just think that it's not like, you know, 391 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: I think I'm just waiting for Drake to drop a 392 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 1: project that like, upon first listen, you're like, oh my god. 393 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that take Care is not that, 394 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: but I just mean, like you can't say shit about 395 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: Good Kid Mass City. Yeah No, Like if someone told you, like, nah, 396 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: that ain't a classic, you know, like like you'd be like, 397 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: you're like, shut the fuck up. But a lot of 398 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: people whose opinion you would respect and hip hop might 399 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: not say to take Care as a class I just 400 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: mean it's a classic to me, to you subjectively, we 401 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: all have our own classics, you know what I'm saying. 402 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: But I just don't think Drake's got that one that 403 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: like there's no argument for I think the reason why 404 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: I take Care is in a classic because it's not 405 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: a themed album. I think the skits on Good Kid 406 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: Mass City is what makes it this classic body of work. 407 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: The same thing with a Tip of a Butterfly or 408 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: even Damn. But it's like it's a cohesive body of 409 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: work to where you cannot deny it. And creatively it 410 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: was like a lot of just risk taking. Yeah, I 411 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: just think, Yeah, I don't know, man, I love Drake. 412 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: Nothing was the same my favorite Drake album, But I 413 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: do think take Care my book is classic. Yeah, I 414 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: used to nothing was the same clouds because that's more known. Really. Yeah, 415 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: the clouds is like when you see those clouds, oh 416 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: the clouds on the album cover. Yeah, oh yeah that 417 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: was That's not my Drake my favorite Drake project. Just 418 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: a great album. Yeah, but it made sense, you know 419 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: exactly what I'm talking about looking at those clouds. It 420 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: makes sense. So yeah, so what what spark? Now you're independent? 421 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: What's next for you? This this project is out, it's 422 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: been going crazy, But what's next for you? So? I 423 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: got two projects in the works. I got Ignorance Part 424 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: two that I'm kind of iffy on putting out because 425 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: Ignorant Part one was dedicated to my brother and I 426 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: don't want to step on his toes, you know, uh, 427 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: and like kind of try to recreate some energy when 428 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: it was like really organic. And then I'm working on 429 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: on my debut even though nobody's looking for it. I'm 430 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: like literally just putting songs away. So you're like official album, 431 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: like they are official, like more than seven tracks. I've 432 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: never put out a eping that's more than seven tracks. 433 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 1: I want to really have something where like it's undeniable 434 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: from top to bottom. So I'm sitting on fifty sixty records, 435 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: like every artist you know, sitting on a whole lot 436 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: of records and just wait for the right time to 437 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: put it out because I what's the right time? Though 438 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: there is no right time, but like, how do you 439 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: determine that. I hate when people say that I'm waiting 440 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: for the right time to put something, but I don't know. 441 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: It was the right to put out idols when I 442 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: put it out. But a lot of people using the 443 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: pandemic on why they're not putting music. I'm like, you're 444 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: fucking tripping. People are at home with nothing to do 445 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: and they're listening to music. Yeah. I just feel like 446 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: my thing is I always want to put out a 447 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: body of work that is cohesive. Every one of my 448 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: body of works was themed, every single one of them. 449 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: So I don't want to just put out a body 450 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: of work just like oh, this is music here, you 451 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: can have it. I might put out a single, but 452 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to just put out something that it's 453 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: not like, Oh, I understand what you're trying to do here, 454 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: because I feel like that's the biggest thing for me 455 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: as an artist, Like Yo, he's telling stories with everything 456 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: he does, and everybody at work meant something to him. 457 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: You talked about obviously the capital deal came into play 458 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of people are trying to sign you. 459 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: Can you talk about like you said you were eating 460 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: dinner and someone called you. Yeah, so I was eating dinner, 461 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: well Thanksgiving dinner. It was like three years ago. This 462 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: is years ago. Yeah, I had dropped. This is when 463 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: I had dropped a many of your time, and Top 464 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: caused me and he didn't He said, all I'm gonna 465 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: hit you, but I didn't think he was gonna hit 466 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: me on Thanksgiving. So I'm like, who is this? He's like, 467 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: this is Top. I'm like what, Like, you know what 468 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying? It was Top. So that that kind of 469 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: like solidified what I was really really doing at that time. 470 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: Where you already did you already make the decision to uh? 471 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: I was already signed the Capital at the time, but 472 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: I had already fulfilled my deal. But I still need 473 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: to give him another project because I wanted to put 474 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: the project out. So long story short, took the meeting 475 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: with Top. He was fucking with what I was doing, 476 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: but then I still had to fulfill the rest of 477 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: my duties. To Capital, and I you know, I love 478 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: top Dog, Like I think that's one of those labels 479 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: that represent artistic in tech, what you're doing real Like, yeah, 480 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: them Dreamville. I don't know what they're finna do with 481 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: pg lang, but that might be a pocket. But yeah, 482 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: I really love what the guys over there that top 483 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: Dog is doing. And like, like I said, I ended 484 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: up staying at Capitol, you know, for filling the rest 485 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: of my deal. But yeah, I would love to work 486 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: with top of like he understands what I'm trying to say. 487 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: So the video you shot that went viral, It's there's 488 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: been a lot of videos that have been similar to 489 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: that video since it came out. Yeah. Yeah, I remember 490 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: specifically when the Baby put out his video. What song 491 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: was it? The Baby? He did it for the Rock 492 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: the Rockstar remix ye ye, yep, when he did a 493 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter remix Yeah, and very similar almost to 494 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: the t Yeah. How did you feel when you saw that? 495 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: I think now because I think the Baby was like 496 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: the last person that's done it right. Well yeah, because 497 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: there was some other artists similar. Yeah, but uh, long 498 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: story short, the Baby did and I kind of felt like, yo, 499 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: I'm here to inspire. I can't be mad. And I 500 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: inspired somebody, you know. And I may not even have 501 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: inspired the baby. I may have inspired his director or 502 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: his team. Yeah, we were talking about that. I was like, 503 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure the baby like saw that and was like, 504 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: let's do that. It might have been a subconscious effort 505 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: on his director whoever his videographer was, because it was 506 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: it was like damn yeah. But then again, I put 507 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: out that video back in twenty seventeen. Who's to say 508 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: that his director had that in his subconscious and didn't 509 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: even remember like how to exactly. Yeah, you know, so 510 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: like like I said, like he was telling the story. 511 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: And if if your director is getting inspired to tell 512 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: a story something similar to what I did, you know, 513 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: push pushing the same message. I was gonna say, like, 514 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: did you any sort of communication with him or his 515 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: camp at all about it? Now? I had tweeted. I 516 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this looks very familiar, and I was it. 517 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: That tweet kind of went up, got a bunch of 518 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: like replies and retweets and shit like that. So that 519 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 1: was it. But I didn't I didn't reach out to nobody. 520 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: It ain't It's not my business, you know, what I'm saying. 521 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: I got I got my bag, I got my deal 522 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: off that video. So it's like, if you want to 523 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: eat too, go ahead. You know, I'm still eating off 524 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: that song. So it's like, yeah, when you when your 525 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: videos are so like conceptually, so dope, like is it? 526 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: It's like, is it hard to like out like like 527 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: when you shoot videos like that that are so conceptually 528 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: at a high level, Like can it be frustrating to 529 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: just shoot a regular video or just like everything, Like 530 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: I feel like you like you gotta I don't know, 531 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: I'll do yourself, but like that shit, you know you 532 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: got some crazy visuals. Bro. I think I write. I 533 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: write songs visually, so I see the video first video 534 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: as I'm writing while you're writing. Literally, like when I 535 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: just was doing a freestyle, I have my eyes closed. 536 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: I literally literally visually see what I'm saying. So a 537 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: lot of times it's not hard to come up with 538 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: these conceptual videos. It's hard to execute them sometimes because 539 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: sometimes the idea is so grand and now, being independent, 540 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: you ain't got capital that spend fifty thousand on the video, 541 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, like you got to come out of pocket. 542 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, I literally visually write every song, every video. 543 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if a lot of people know, but like, 544 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: like I directed and wrote those treatments for all of it. 545 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: But he said, you shot that video you yourself? Right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, literally, 546 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: that shit's crazy on a on a camp, I just 547 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: put the camera on the floor. That was kool aid 548 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: and corn starch, the blood. Yeah, but I spent seven 549 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: dollars on that video and that video changed my life. 550 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: That's fucking crazy. Artists out there, don't make no fucking 551 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: excuses about what you should be doing, because you can 552 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: make this shit happen. They're cheap. I want I wanted 553 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: to ask you. Obviously we're at the end of the year, 554 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: what's your who's your like, what's your favorite album of 555 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: the year. We're just talking about the Grammy nominations, but 556 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: what's your personal top album in twenty twenty? Top album 557 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty is definitely No Love Lost by Blast That's fair. 558 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 1: That is that an EP? That's I don't know what 559 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: that is, but it's EP. But no, we were just 560 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: talking about Blasting there. Yeah yeah, yeah, so about that. 561 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: And by the way, the way he shopped the videos, 562 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: yeah crazy. So the Homie City James directed that and 563 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: he's five. You go tapping with City James and look 564 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: at his videos. My god, he's really like he's vague. 565 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: Yeah man, yeah, so yeah, so yeah, all right. So 566 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: if we want to say blast album is not an album, 567 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: so it's called that an EP EP. He's got the 568 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: Deluxe coming out, which will kind of fill it out 569 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: to be down because I'm drawing a blank here. Let 570 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: me see who while you're While you're looking that up, 571 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: let's go through the best hip hop album nominees and 572 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: who you think will win. We got Alfredo from Freddy 573 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: Gibbs and Alchemist. We got Royce's album d Smoke, Black Habits, 574 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: NAS's King Disease, and Jay Electronica. I think either Freddy 575 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: or NAS is gonna win. They might give it Knas 576 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: might be the clear winner. You know what's funny is 577 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: I said the same thing. I'm like, Freddy should win, 578 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: but they might just give it to NABS because Nas 579 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 1: never had a Grammy out of respect for the culture. 580 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: So I would say one of the biggest albums and 581 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: hip we say that hip hop no, no, your favorite, 582 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: like album of the year, I would say, because I 583 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: don't really be listening, I was like that but if 584 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm say albums that I listen to, I would say 585 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: Pop Smoke, that sh At the Stars. That was a 586 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: great That's a great album for me. It's a great 587 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: album that I listened to because I've been listening to 588 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: like a lot of EPs and like that, like you 589 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: do you funk with ke Bell? You know of course 590 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: his little I think it was after Hours. Yeah, he's dope, 591 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: He's dope. That was great. He's going to put a 592 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: shirt on them that that guy never put a shirt 593 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: on my guy. But uh yeah, so yeah, I think 594 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: those those projects really are something that I listened to 595 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: a lot, like on repeat, especially like I was saying, 596 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: like that Blast project, I'm glad you said his name 597 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: because I didn't know if it was Ion or because 598 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: because it's with the X is in his name, So 599 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad now I know how to say 600 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: his name. I don't know if he's trying to do 601 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: like you know, how a Blast got like the X 602 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: in his Maybe that's why he's doing it, Like that 603 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: X kind of looks like a K. I don't know. 604 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why he did that. 605 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: I had to ask him, like yo, just because I 606 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: went to high school him, he went to We went 607 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: the same high school. His project is dope though a 608 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: lot of he look, there's like a lot of dope 609 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: ship coming out of l A on the R and 610 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: B side. Yeah, bro l a kind of kind of 611 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: doing that damn thing. Bro real definitely, No, I agree. 612 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: I think Blast is uh you know, if we're talking 613 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: about just bodies of work, EPs albums, it's up there man. Yeah. 614 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: And I didn't know. I was looking at the credits 615 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: the other day. Bro, he's producing all that himself. Yeah, 616 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: I was. He was up here for the podcast and 617 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: he's like Russ. He records himself, mixes and produces and 618 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: masters and like he does everything himself. Yeah it's crazy. Yeah, 619 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: I record, mixed and master all my stuff, but I 620 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: don't produce the beats like that making his own level, 621 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: Like we start producing your ship. Well, you know the 622 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: Kaaling record, the pull Up and get right with It, 623 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: he produced that. Wow so that that he that's his 624 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: beat over that Kaling record. Yeah, it's crazy, super crazy. 625 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: Shout out to Blast man. Yeah you got music with Blast. Yeah, 626 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: we gotta we got like a song we hit that. 627 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, but hit boy. Yeah, Hip Hip produced 628 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: it me him and hit. It sounds like a big 629 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: move man, as like a big move for the city. 630 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: It hit clear, that ship hit clear that shit. So 631 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: that'd be some dope shit. That'd be some dope shit. 632 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: That's the record we did like a year maybe year 633 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: and a half ago. Yeah, and that's before you know, 634 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: Blast was Blast. Yeah, he had literally just put up 635 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: off the strength, Like, yo, brother, fuck with your shit, 636 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: let's work. You know what I'm saying. I ain't even 637 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: tapped in with him. I'm like, bro fly, young man, 638 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: do your thing. You know. I don't want to be 639 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: the guy that, like, yo, remember this this record we got, 640 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to do that. Bro Fly, 641 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: spread your wings my guy, because I'm rooting for you 642 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. That pop Smoke album though. They did 643 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: a great job with him, man, I thought that, you know, 644 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: it's hard to pull off an album when someone's not 645 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: here anymore, especially you're kind of knowing that probably a 646 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: lot of those songs weren't finished. They did a masterful job. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, 647 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: I wondered. I was wondering how they pulled off certain things, 648 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: and I don't know how much, how much fifty. He 649 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: had his hands in it, but that was it was 650 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: It was dope because he had a couple of great 651 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: records on there. Oh yeah, solid body of your work. Yeah, 652 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: shout out to pop Smoke. So we don't have any 653 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: sort of So you're you're thinking about dropping uh well, 654 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: you're putting records in site for your album? Yeah, thinking 655 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: about dropping a follow up EP? Yeah next year, early 656 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, I'm not gonna do it this year 657 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: if I'm not, if I'm me, shit, we got three 658 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: weeks left. Yeah right, so yeah, so yeah, either most 659 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: likely early next year January February probably another EP and 660 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: then begin working towards the album. But my manager was 661 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: telling them, like, bro, just keep dropping EPs, just keep 662 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: dropping a little small by sized bodies of work until 663 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: people are begging for an album and then just doing 664 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: ye man, run up that catalog. Yeah bro, that's what Yeah, Bro, 665 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: that's just you know, getting you know, my first independent 666 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: Spotify check. I'm like, I'm gonna run up this catalog. 667 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,239 Speaker 1: Just keep going because yeah, because now now you got 668 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: the you got the listeners, you got the monthly listeners 669 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: that are tapped in, they'll get that release radar, you know, Yeah, 670 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy that we're talking out loud about this, 671 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: Like it's like something you got to think about, Like, Okay, 672 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: I got people on Spotify listening, so I gotta keep 673 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: on feeding them. Yeah, so it hits their algorithm and 674 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: their algorithmic playlist, their daily mixes and all that shit. Yeah. Man, 675 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: but it's just the world we're in, man. That's yeah, 676 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: that's where we're at. And that's I realized, like you can't, 677 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: especially as an independent artists. You can't wait too long. 678 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: You cannot wait too long. Too long, but you also 679 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: can't overdo it, you know. So I'm like, okay, cool, 680 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: I don't know who said it, Like you should kind 681 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: of try to be on a three to four month 682 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: when you independent, if you're doing EPs, three to four 683 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: month radius to where it's like drop something with a 684 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: couple of months, d drop something, because if you keep 685 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: smacking people over the head every thirty days, they're gonna 686 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: start listening. That's too much unless you're doing singles, yeah, 687 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: but before projects definitely. I don't know if I'm like 688 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: a single artist at this point, just like like I 689 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: like bodies of work towards like, oh I see what 690 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: he trying to do not for sure, Yeah, yeah, I 691 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: mean I get it and doing the EP thing smart, Yeah, 692 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: I like, I actually like it that way. I feel 693 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: like giving people's bite sized amounts of content, it's it's 694 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: the way to go. I don't I get I see 695 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: an album with nineteen songs on it get scared, like 696 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: that's too much. Yeah, man, it's too much for me. 697 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: It's a lot. There's no bros. There's like three people 698 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: in the game that I will listen to their whole album. Well, 699 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean, especially if it's nineteen songs. Yeah, I think 700 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: Dot can drop a he could drop a forty song 701 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: album and I'm in whatever Kendrick wants to just whatever, Like, yeah, 702 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: I think that and Cold do you think of Drake 703 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: Dropp a forty song album? You listen to all of it? 704 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: I didn't listen to all the Scorpion answer your question. So, 705 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I might have listened to all 706 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: of it, but it was like in pieces because it 707 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: was like a technically a double double album double was 708 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: half all. I like the R and B side to 709 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: be honest a lot on the Scorpion, but now like Drake, 710 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: it took me a while, Like if Kendrick drops a 711 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: forty song album, I'm gonna smoke some weeds, sit in 712 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: my man cave fucking and just zone out for two hours. 713 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: Two hours, yeah, and just be like, Yo, there's no 714 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: way Kendrick's gonna drop a forty song album and it 715 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: not be a masterpiece. Drake drop a forty song album, 716 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: You're like, well, you know that Chris Brown did? That? 717 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: Was it last year? Christ thirty six? Albums thirty six? 718 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: It was some crazy some of the Red Moon or 719 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: something like that? Was man. I was like, Yo, damn Breezy, 720 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: I'll fuck with you, bro, But I'm I mean, I 721 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: got ship to do, I got life to live. The 722 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: songs I need to hear will make their way to me. Yeah, Bro, 723 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I was just talking 724 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: about that. That Chris Brown record is one of my 725 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: favorite records right now though him a young thug. Oh yeah, 726 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: I listened to that record every day. Again, that's a 727 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: radio record I don't typically Yeah, crazy, great beautiful song. 728 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, bro, So shout to Chris Brown, man, Yeah. Many. 729 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: Let me ask you something is Chris Brown? Is he 730 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: the most talented artist we've ever seen? I think he 731 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: would be I think unfortunately that incident with him Rihanna. No, No, 732 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about is he 733 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: the most talented artist. I'm saying yes. I feel like 734 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: he would be god level had he not done some 735 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: stuff in his adolescence. I think he's god level. You 736 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 1: think he is. I don't think he gets to shine 737 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: and he deserves. But I'm not talking about the shine 738 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: or the record. I'm talking about talent. Yeah, god level. Yeah. 739 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: I've been extremely critical of Chris Brown and his personal 740 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: decisions outside of the Rihanna thing. Yeah, but Jesus Christ's 741 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: he's out of this world. I'm like, how do you 742 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: still are you making fifty song projects? Bro? He's an 743 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: alien man and he can dance. He can paint a 744 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: mural on a Ferrari Yeah, he can sing a jump 745 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: shot yeah, solid on the Celebrity Basketball game. Yeah he was. 746 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: He was really mixing people. He could act. Yeah. Yeah. 747 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: I think about like I said, I hope we give 748 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: that man his roses, bro, because he's really a great 749 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: yeah man, And I'm being very critical, but I'm like, yo, like, 750 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's been another more talented human 751 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: being that we've seen in the public eye besides Chris Brown. 752 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: Now you might argue that there's people who's made better music, 753 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: but just pure talent. Chris Brown has got people. Chris 754 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: Brown makes phenomenal music. Who's really making better music than 755 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: Christ Down? I mean, you know, I think if I 756 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: mean not anymore, I was gonna say Kanye, but not anymore, 757 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: But Jesus Jesus King is it could turn. I don't 758 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: know all this fucking that non No song Kanye Drop 759 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: is the worst fucking Kanye song he's ever released besides 760 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: the The Scoop shit. But that was he was trolling 761 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: and that beat was fire on the poop the Scoop shit. 762 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: That beat was crazy what I wanted to I really 763 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: would have loved to have heard what Drake did on 764 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: that because that was Drake's beat. Yeah, that's what Drake 765 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: was saying, like Kanye gave it to him, did that 766 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: shit on top of it. But yeah, I just hope 767 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: Kanye pulls his head out the ground and just starts 768 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: getting back. I don't know, man, I don't know how 769 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,959 Speaker 1: if he can be as a greade of an artist 770 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: as we would want him to be while he's like 771 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: a hardcore Christian. I think I know one of the 772 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: producers that's over there, Damn Joints, and he's like, really 773 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: out of this Them Joints produced the Not on Us. Yeah, 774 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: great beat, Yeah bro. So I know that because I've 775 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: written records with him and he's produced a couple records 776 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: for me. He's artistic integrity. So I'm pretty sure if 777 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: he's rubbing shoulders with Kanye, I'm pretty sure in the 778 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: next project. I have faith in this next body of while. 779 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: So I just feel like people are just like, I'm 780 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: just happy to be in the room with Kanye. Let 781 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: him do whatever bullshit he wants to do, and we're 782 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: just here for it because he's yay and we grew 783 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 1: up loving him. And yeah, he's my favorite artist ever. Yeah, 784 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 1: like number one. I mean he's not my favorite MC ever, 785 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: But like artists wise, I don't feel like anyone's ever 786 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: made better music and hip hop than Kanye West. Yeah. Artistry, yeah, 787 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think nobody. Yeah, I think if 788 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: I think, if Kendrick gives us something completely different on 789 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: his next project, this is what I always say to people, right, 790 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: So everyone puts Biggie in there, and I put Biggie 791 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: in my top ten. Bigg's one of my favorite rappers ever. 792 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: But Biggie is consistently putting people's top five, top three, 793 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: top two, whatever off of two albums two Right two classics, 794 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,479 Speaker 1: Life After Death, Ready to Die, incredible bodies of work, 795 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: undisputable classic albums. But Kendrick he's dropped. I mean, I 796 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: can can consider section eighty at classic. But if we 797 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: with discard section eighty because some people it wasn't a mixtape. 798 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: You couldn't download it for free, you had to buy 799 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: it on iTunes. But if you just take his three 800 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: albums that came out through Interscope untitled A side, like, 801 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: you gotta put Kendrick, He's like four or five all 802 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: time in my book, man, Like, I don't see how 803 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: you could, like, like when you drop music that's on 804 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: that level three times in a row, four times in 805 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 1: a row to me, you know, because I think section 806 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: eighty's amazing, Like, bro, what are we talking about? I 807 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: think it's just because he's young and he's here right now. 808 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: That's what it is. That's what it is. And Michael's thinking, oh, 809 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: maybe it's recency bias. Like no, Kendrick is fucking that dude, Bro, 810 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: and nobody wants to smoke with Kadot Who would? Who would? 811 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: Who would do that? This man has been throwing subliminal 812 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: shots at Drake and Bro. Who wants smoke with Kendrick? 813 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: Nobody will say his name because they will get destroyed. 814 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: Like the Control Verse was such a moment man shout 815 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: out to Kendrick man top five all time top Yeah. 816 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: I think I think people want to deny that because, 817 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: like I said, because he's here and a lot of 818 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: times people, you know, you pass away and you just 819 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 1: become this super idol. Lord forbid. If Kendrick passed away, 820 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: everyone would be like, Yo, he's top three all time, 821 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, and it's whacked that that's the type of 822 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: shit that has to happen. Yeah, I think Kendrick is 823 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,720 Speaker 1: on another level because and I think that's the difference 824 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: between Cole and Kendrick is Kendrick knows how to make 825 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: hit records and keep him conscious. Like dam was all 826 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: hit records, Bro, and they're all conscious records. You can't 827 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: really me being a conscious artist. I know the difficulty 828 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: of having some shit that not, but it's like I'm 829 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: really telling you something, you know that's that's really difficult, 830 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: you know. So I think if if we want to 831 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: have that conversation, the top five, come on, Man, I 832 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: don't know who, Like, I don't know who. You can 833 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: find four other like who? Yeah, I feel like there's like, 834 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, probably a six or seven rapper arrange that 835 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: you could kind of rearrange into, like who's the top five? Ever? 836 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: But like, I feel like Kendrick's in that conversation. It's close. 837 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question because I'll always 838 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: ask people this question and nobody can ever answer it. 839 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: Or let's just say Kendrick, Cole and Drake are at 840 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: the top of the game. Who's in that space to 841 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: even be close to it? That's not bound level. It's 842 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,479 Speaker 1: like a long three mile gap in between that. Who 843 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: is even a mout up in that gap? You know? 844 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: What's interesting is I don't think we put Kanye in 845 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: that conversation because I don't think people think I think 846 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: Kanye has to be the fourth guy there, just consistency 847 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 1: over the last twelve, fifteen years whatever. But I also 848 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: don't think Kanye like lyrically is on that level. But yeah, 849 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, the first name that comes to 850 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: mind and I would be like a Big Sean maybe 851 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: or like yeah, but but it's afar, it's far. If 852 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: Kendrick Cole and Drake are tense, what would Big Sean 853 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: be a six? No disrespect right right? Right, Well, that's 854 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like you seven, eight and nine that 855 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: you know it's it would have to yeah, Like I'm 856 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: just trying to think. So I'm thinking Big Sean is 857 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: kind of that next tier and then like, yeah, I 858 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: don't know, man, who else is not just just overall greatness. 859 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: That's that's right now, that's relevant right now. Of course 860 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: you can throw Dre I mean not Dre Jay in there, 861 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: jay Z in there, but he's already he's already past 862 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: the generation. Yeah, I'm thinking right now, And and I 863 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 1: think you would have you would have to put Kanye 864 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 1: in that top tier. But like, I don't think relevance 865 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: as an artist at the moment is not what we're 866 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: looking at ya for at the moment. I think we're 867 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: looking at him for things he's done already. Yeah, So 868 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: I would just say that those are the three and 869 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure where you know, if we're talking like impact, 870 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: commercial success, artistic integrity, Like yeah, those those are the 871 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: three and and and and anything below that is very 872 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: far away, very very very very It's a gigantic gap. Yeah, 873 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: I mean there's independent artists that are super like I think, 874 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,959 Speaker 1: you know, I think Freddy Gibbs has had a great 875 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: run recently, you know, I think you can look at Yeah, 876 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: but like we're talking Cole Kendrick Drake for ten years. 877 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 1: I mean, Good Community was twenty twelve. Yeah, Born Center 878 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: was twenty twelve, I think, yeah, it was, it was. 879 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: It was twenty thirteen. It came out the same day 880 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 1: as Jesus. Yeah, and Take Take Care was what twenty eleven, 881 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 1: twenty twelve? Yeah, yeah, you're right, those are the three. 882 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't know who else you would say, Man, there's 883 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: people who've had their pockets and their runs, but like 884 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 1: not a decade, bro a decade of consistently being the 885 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: fucking guys turning on the radio. And it's like, especially Drake, 886 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: what Drake doesn't play fair, don't I just like, dude, 887 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: he's so like Drake's no one's ever been able to 888 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 1: make songs that are like like he's the biggest hip 889 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: maker ever. Like it's just not fair, Like Drake can 890 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: literally do anything, and it's just it's it's number one, 891 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: or it's it's it's like, it's just really not fair. 892 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 1: I think that we've never seen anything like that ever 893 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: in hip hop. Like what Drake's doing, we've never seen. 894 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 1: You could say, well, Wayne had a couple of year 895 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: run where he was like no, no, no, no, no, no, 896 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: what Drake's doing, nobody's ever done. You know. It's crazy, though, 897 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: If I tell you name your top five rappers, people 898 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: don't even put Drake in the I'm not a big 899 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: Drake though, because why don't we respect that? Man? My 900 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: manager told me he was like those references man kind 901 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: of killed it for me. Man. When I heard the 902 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: Running through the sixth, I was like, oh, oh, people, 903 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get in that discussion. But no, no no, 904 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: But and the thing is is for me, that's why 905 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: he can't be in in that discussion. But he could 906 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: be in the biggest artist of all time discussion. He 907 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: could be in the biggest hip Like I don't put 908 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: Kanye in the greatest MC discussion. Yeah, but it's one 909 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: of the biggest artists. But but yeah, because I know 910 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: that Kanye openly has people write him for him. Yeah, 911 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, like Ryan Fest wrote Jesus Walks. I didn't 912 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, Ryan Fest wrote that song. Wow. So 913 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: you know that doesn't take away from Drake. Like I 914 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: told you, Kanye is my favorite artist, but I can't 915 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 1: put him in that conversation, just like I can't put 916 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: Drake in that conversation. But Drake don't play fair man. 917 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: You think Drake got somebody writing his bars? I don't know. 918 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: I think I mean, you go listen to that he 919 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: rapped rewrapped all them Quentin Miller bars. Those were verses. 920 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: But that's not even our favorite Drake project. But do 921 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: you think he got another secret person? You know a 922 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: lot of people like that if you're reading this tool, Yeah, 923 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 1: people really like that project. Yeah, because that was like him, 924 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: that was like his rapping ass rapping project. And the 925 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: fact that that was his rapping ass rapping project and 926 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: there was what two references I believe there's just not 927 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: that least three three. Yeah, So that's why I'm like, 928 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: I don't care, because he makes enjoyable music and he 929 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: also delivers them because if you listen to the Quentin 930 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: Miller versions of those songs, they sound as and then 931 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: Drake gets on him and you're like, oh shit, yeah, Drake, 932 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: don't play fair, man, it's unfair. No one's ever done 933 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 1: what he's he's doing. I'm not sure anyone will ever 934 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: do what he's doing. Yeah, it's like Drake the Weekend, 935 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: Bruno Mars. Yeah, like like when we're just talking about 936 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: commercial success, who the fuck is touching Drake? Bro, he 937 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: could do another ten years like with his eyes closed. Yeah, Bro, 938 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: it's it's it's ridiculous. He could do yeah, bro. And 939 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm a critical Drake fan, like I'm I think that 940 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things he hasn't done that I 941 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: would like to see him do. I would like to 942 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: see him make a concept project. All right, So look, 943 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: this is what I'm about to say. Earlier, So I 944 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: was on a you tapped it on Clubhouse man. I 945 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: was on there, Man, I got it, bro, but I 946 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: just like, I don't got time for that. Yeah that shit, 947 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: take your time, but it's good, like if you're driving 948 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 1: or some shit. But like, so, long story short, I 949 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: was having a conversation and they were saying that Drake 950 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: isn't one of the best lyricists ever, right, And I 951 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: was saying, if we like to be wold By like 952 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: super duper triple on tandras and all the other stuff. Right, 953 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 1: But if you can say something so simple that a 954 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: baby can understand it, a teenager can understand it, and 955 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: a grandmother can understand it, does that make not make 956 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: you one of the best lyricists because it's so easily 957 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: easy to digest. Sometimes Kendrick will say some shit that 958 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,720 Speaker 1: if you're not a rap head, you have no idea 959 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: what he's talking about. Same thing with Cole. But if 960 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: Draken simplifies so much to what every single person can 961 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: understand it, but it's still the dopest line ever, does 962 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: that not make him one of the greatest lyricists ever? 963 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:41,399 Speaker 1: I think if he's writing those bars, if he's writing them, 964 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: and yeah, I think Drake is an elite MC yeah, yeah, 965 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 1: I just don't know what is he writing? What is 966 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: he not? I don't know. So the question that I 967 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: don't know would you be heard? Would you be would 968 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: you hear lets you say some something came out like 969 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: cold wasn't rightdow Ship? Would you be hurt? Of course? 970 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: Of course I'd be like, what like if someone told 971 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: me Kendrick didn't write his ship or there was I would. 972 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: I would be heartbroken, That's what That's what Head had 973 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,919 Speaker 1: asked me, Like, Yo, what if you found out Pockin 974 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: Biggie had ghostwriters? How would you feel about yourself? I'm like, Dad, 975 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do. I mean, I 976 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of our our I think 977 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: that there's some substantial situational evidence that Wayne has had 978 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,399 Speaker 1: some help with some of his bars. I think when 979 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: this is my own bias, but I think when Drake 980 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 1: first came out, I think Drake was helping Wayne with 981 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 1: some bars, because there was very similar when Drake had 982 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,399 Speaker 1: ly the Kid. Yeah, we know that, but that wasn't 983 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: long cool man. We know that though, because you remember 984 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: there was such a jump. Yeah, because like Wayne was 985 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: like block is hot five hundred degrees and then all 986 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: of a sudden just he was rapping, rapping, and he 987 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: was always solid, Like I always thought he was the 988 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: best dude in the Hot Boys as far as like 989 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: who I like to hear rap? But you know, obviously 990 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 1: Droven Out probably made the best music in that era. 991 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: But there was a big jump man his pen game. 992 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,399 Speaker 1: He took a fucking leap on Carter one and those 993 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: squad of mixtapes and all that shit. So yeah, I 994 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: don't know. I also know people who have been in 995 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: the studio with Wayne and they're like, he's an alien. 996 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 1: He goes in and it's all off the top of 997 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 1: his head and it's you know, I'm not I'm a 998 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: little Wayne fan, but I'm very you know critical. Well, 999 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 1: you know people people really put Wayne in Like, if 1000 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: you put Wayne in your top five, I just can't 1001 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: take you serious. Really, I just can't do it, man, 1002 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: my god, I can't do with god. I don't know 1003 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: if Wayne would be top five, but if he definitely 1004 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: in the top seven, come on now, I can't do it. 1005 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: Wayne also had like an eight year run. Well he 1006 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: didn't have a year run. What was it like two thousand? 1007 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: Think about so really think about think about his run. Right, So, 1008 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: I believe Carter one was five. I was still in 1009 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: high school. I was gonna best buy when Carter one 1010 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,479 Speaker 1: came out four oh five. I think it was oh five. 1011 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 1: I know Carter two was seven or eight, right, and 1012 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: then No. Eight was Carter three. So Carter three came 1013 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: out in eight. I know that for sure. Okay, because 1014 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: that was the first year I ever got arrested. Four 1015 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: was Carter one? Yeah, so that was my junior year 1016 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: in high school? Man, when was Carter two? Was that 1017 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 1: six o seven five? Wow? Okay my freshman year? Well 1018 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 1: so think about this, right, Carter one and Carter two. 1019 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 1: Carter two is my favorite Wayne album. But Carter one 1020 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: and Carter two, Wayne wasn't the biggest fucking guy, Like 1021 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 1: he wasn't like the guy yet those were albums where 1022 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: people are like, oh shit. Then Carter two came out. 1023 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: He started calling himself the best rapper alive. Right, He 1024 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 1: had a song on there called exactly And even then, 1025 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 1: like if you think about Carter two, like what was 1026 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: the hit record, like the undeniable hit record, It wasn't 1027 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 1: go DJ, wasn't like a super smash and was that 1028 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 1: was go DJ? Carter one? Yeah, Carter one, So go 1029 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: DJ was Carter one. That record was dope and it 1030 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: got radio play. But like his commercial foot like I 1031 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 1: think after Carter two he started that feature run in 1032 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: that Drought, the Drought series and all that shit, dedication, 1033 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: dedication shit, and then Carter three was like the cherry 1034 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: on top bro and during that whole run he was 1035 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,720 Speaker 1: just on everybody. Shit. So I would argue to say 1036 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 1: that Wayne's run as the guy probably started in like 1037 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 1: seven Carter three dropped, that was the peak, and then 1038 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: by like twenty ten it was Drake's world. Yeah, so 1039 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: you say he had a three year run as the guy, 1040 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: bro as the guy, I don't know. Maybe because I'm 1041 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: a rapper, rapper bro. When he was putting out the 1042 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 1: Dedication one and that's what two thousand and six, like, 1043 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 1: come on, now you know what's crazy? I was like, 1044 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: that was a run all my favorite all my favorite 1045 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 1: Wayne shit is shit isn't even on, like it's all 1046 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 1: it's on that pif Yeah, bro that yeah Wayne. But 1047 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 1: I just don't like, no, no, no no, like if you're 1048 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: counting like Carter one all the way. So I just 1049 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: think that after Carter three he dropped No Ceilings, which 1050 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,919 Speaker 1: to me was the last great lyrical little Wayne. Yeah, 1051 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 1: because I wasn't a fan of Carter four. It had 1052 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 1: some hits on it. Yeah. By the way, motherfuckers in 1053 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: the comments hate me because I just had J Mills 1054 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 1: up here and I was shitting on the Carter four. 1055 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: Was not a fan of the Carter four. Huge drop 1056 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: off to me, major, right, And then he did I'm 1057 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: not a human being revolver. He just had a lot 1058 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 1: of stuff that just wasn't He went to the rock 1059 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 1: world and it just wasn't like the level of like 1060 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 1: when even the tapes he dropped after that were just 1061 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 1: kind of whatever. It was like like no ceilings three 1062 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 1: just came out and it's like I haven't heard it yet. 1063 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's cool, there's some shit on there. Yeah, 1064 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: but all right, let's just say this. So then the 1065 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 1: Trump endorsement, you got to knock it out the top ten. 1066 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 1: But you know why he did it. He did it 1067 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 1: to get the parted and for these federal charges you got. 1068 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: You gotta know that that's coming. Because he's got those 1069 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 1: gun charges that they just brought up on him. He 1070 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 1: might go to prison. I didn't know that. When I 1071 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: saw that, I was like, oh, the Trump thing makes sense. 1072 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 1: Trump's gonna part of Little Wayne. I put a thousand dollars. 1073 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 1: Trump has to part in Lil Wayne. There's no way 1074 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: Little Wayne took a picture with his ass. We're in 1075 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: that goofy ass sweater and Trump don't give him a 1076 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: fucking party. How many parties do the president get as 1077 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: many as he wants? It's unlimited. God damn, he getting 1078 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: a party. But look, I'm gonna say this. You're saying that, 1079 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: and I'm not mad at him. If he gets the part, 1080 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: if he gets to parton, it's all good. I get it. Bro, 1081 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: you want to do fifteen years of prisoner, go take 1082 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: a picture with the fucking you know, biggest skysucker in 1083 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: the world. I mean, look, I get it. Hey to 1084 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: each their own, but look, this is what I'm about 1085 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: to say. For you to say that Wayne Runn may 1086 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 1: not have been that long, but when it comes to 1087 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: influence in today's world, sen is the biggest. Come on, 1088 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 1: So why is he not in what are we just 1089 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,399 Speaker 1: basing of If he's one of the greatest lyricists we've 1090 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: ever heard, some of his punchlines is out of this world? Right? No? No, 1091 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know if he's one of the 1092 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 1: greatest lyricists. Oh my god, he's just a top twenty lyricist. 1093 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,760 Speaker 1: Oh top twenty. Like would you put as a lyricist 1094 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: you said lyricist? Yeah, but he's not a storyteller. He's 1095 00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: not gonna give you a story but you But if're 1096 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: talking about saying lyrics sing dope ship, than there I mean, 1097 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 1: we don't want to dive in that hole because I'll 1098 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,280 Speaker 1: start the name and names that you'll get mad about. 1099 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: So Rayce the five nine is a better lyricistan Little 1100 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: Wayne bro So how this Braddy gives a better lyricists? 1101 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,720 Speaker 1: Little Wayne? Killer Mike's a better lyricist a little Wayne. 1102 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: You said lyricists, You said Loupe Fiasco better lyricist than 1103 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 1: little is one of the greatest lyricists ever. But he 1104 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 1: just don't get the like Lil Wayne is not even 1105 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 1: like sniffing that level of lyricism. So do you think 1106 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 1: do you think Drake is a better lyricist of those 1107 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: than your name? Because Wayne, do you think when it 1108 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: comes to rapping and punch lines triple on tandras, who's 1109 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: really touching him other than Jay? When it comes to 1110 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:46,720 Speaker 1: races to five nine? Yeah, loop A Fiasco, Yeah, Killer 1111 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 1: Mike Uh. I mean, but they're not on that eminem eminem. Yeah, 1112 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: He's is a man of words. Andre three thousand, Andre 1113 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: three thousand. I mean, I could keep going, but I 1114 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: don't don't. I'm not I've never tapped into Royce. I've 1115 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: never tapped into Killer Mike, Jay Electronica, never tapped into 1116 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: Ja Electronica, Jay Electronica, col Rap come on no at 1117 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: all projects because I heard that project. I skimmed through it. Well. 1118 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 1: That project did not deserve no. I don't disagree with you. Listen. 1119 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't have no disrespect to them. I don't know 1120 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: they washed that man on that record. I don't listen. 1121 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't know Jay Electronica. I have no dog in 1122 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: the Jay Electronica fight. He should not have gotten nominated. 1123 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: There's a there's a some others that probably shouldn't have 1124 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 1: gotten nominated. But you know some homies of mine that 1125 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: got nominated. I'm happy for. Yeah, what album do you 1126 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 1: feel like should have got on there? I feel like 1127 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,439 Speaker 1: Roddy rich and Little Baby Little Baby, Bro. Little Baby 1128 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 1: has had one of the greatest years. Roddy Richard Little Baby. Yeah. 1129 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I forgot about right his album came out. 1130 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 1: But I say a Little Baby is the best album 1131 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 1: of this year. Then I like Little Baby Baby. I 1132 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: don't album better than crazy about Little Baby is. If 1133 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: you're like a hardcore hip hop head, you can still 1134 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: listen to his album and it's like this ship is fire, bro, 1135 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,800 Speaker 1: He's really talking about some shit. Yeah, Little baby crazy. 1136 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 1: Now I'm a huge fan of I didn't know bro 1137 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 1: it was that young. He's like twenty five years old. 1138 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: I think he's younger than that. Twenty five. Yeah they did. 1139 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: They just did the thirty on the thirties twenty five. 1140 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 1: I think he's twenty five. Yeah, they just did the 1141 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 1: Forest thirty on the thirty. No, listen, I think Wayne 1142 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,959 Speaker 1: is dope. I just twenty six. He's twenty six. Wow. 1143 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 1: I thought he was younger than that. I thought he 1144 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,840 Speaker 1: was like twenty two or something. Oh oh, today's birthday, 1145 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 1: Happy birthday, a little baby yo. So yeah, man, Wayne 1146 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 1: is fire. But I just think we put so much. 1147 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 1: He influences different influence. There's I mean, okay, where do 1148 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: you put Tupac in your top as far as influence, 1149 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 1: He's like number one or two one Yeah, because I'm 1150 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,240 Speaker 1: from the West. No, No No, but like overall, Tupac influenced everybody. 1151 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 1: Everybody like Tupac is. Probably he's the most influential rapper 1152 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 1: I think. Ever, Yeah, it's like him. Yay ho Wayne. 1153 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 1: I feel like where hip hop is and low key 1154 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 1: future where hip hop is. If you got to give 1155 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: Drake a lot of credit as far as influence like see, 1156 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 1: I think nobody was singing Drake was influenced by Ita 1157 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: Wates and Heartbreaks, but he was, he was, He didn't 1158 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: say will Yeah, yeah he did. But as far as 1159 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: making a whole career out of rapping and singing, no 1160 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 1: rappers like hip hop is now typically art. It's like 1161 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: basically it'sodic in R and B. Sure Drake's up there too, 1162 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 1: nobody was really doing that. That's how Fitty end of 1163 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 1: Jar rules career. Like Bro, you singing on records, that's 1164 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: what we're doing. Yeah, I think it's Pac. I think 1165 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: Wayne is up there and influence Wayne lyrics, poc storytelling. 1166 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,399 Speaker 1: I want to visualize your lyrics pop well, I don't 1167 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 1: feel like Pac was gonna give you like crazy crazy bar. 1168 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,360 Speaker 1: He's just gonna make you feel it emotionally. I think Tupac. 1169 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 1: I would listen to Tupac ten times out of ten 1170 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: over Lil Wayne. Now, do I think Lil Wayne is 1171 00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: probably technically a better lyricist like talking about data, Yeah, probably, 1172 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 1: But Tupac, like you said earlier about Drake, Chupac can 1173 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 1: say some shit so simple and it just like hits you. Yeah, 1174 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 1: And that's a fucking talent in itself. It's the emotion 1175 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: in Tupac's voice that that made sense. Yeah what Yeah, 1176 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 1: but I well, we ain't told about we said Tupac 1177 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 1: and Wayne. But hold on, I gotta send We got 1178 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 1: Pete Rock Collen in on zoom, hold on the time 1179 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: of that twol forty five. Okay, we got twenty minutes. 1180 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 1: Give me a sick Sorry guys, mid podcast text rapping up. 1181 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, shout out to Wayne. I'm a Wayne fan. 1182 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 1: I enjoyed the Wayne. I I like, I enjoy the Wayne. 1183 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 1: I enjoy But man, man, these young kids, Bro. I 1184 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 1: had some guy in here tell me that. Bro, there's 1185 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 1: this kid named Veno, this rapper who I'm working with, 1186 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: and he's twenty three, and with a straight face, he 1187 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: told me no one's had a better ten years in 1188 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 1: hip hop history than Lil Wayne from ninety eight to eight. 1189 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: And I said from ninety eight, Like what did you 1190 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 1: just say? I wanted to smack him and kick him 1191 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: out of jay Z. He wasn't think about JAYZ, bro 1192 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 1: or DMX or fifty or like during that span. Like 1193 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 1: what Anyway, I don't think anyone's ever had a bigger 1194 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 1: two or three year running fifty. Yeah, fifty was the 1195 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: biggest motherfucker on the planet. It's fifty. I think the 1196 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 1: two biggest rappers ever at their peak was Snoop and 1197 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: fifty Like Doggie style Snoop. He's on the cover of 1198 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 1: Fuck's Peak. Bro, he was. Bro. Now I'm talking about it. 1199 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking bro, nah, bro god level. It was a 1200 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 1: point where Wayne anything that Wayne touched. But I think 1201 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,479 Speaker 1: seven oh Wayne, like he's in that top five run 1202 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: with his peak? How high he got? Bro? You know 1203 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,920 Speaker 1: Wayne's up there his period of time where he was 1204 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 1: like the biggest, didn't he When was the last time? 1205 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: I know? We in a different ERAa now, But Wayne 1206 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: didn't do like one point three million in a week 1207 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: when he dropped Carter three, Like, come on, now, that's 1208 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 1: a run bro. You yeah, yeah, I don't think. I think. 1209 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Marshall mallers up. He did 1210 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 1: in the age too well. To be honest, I mean, 1211 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: it's no, no, no no, yeah, But I just think peak 1212 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 1: is it's Snoop and it's it's fifty. Yeah what fifty 1213 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 1: sons first week? I don't remember that. Sure you ever 1214 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,680 Speaker 1: remember somebody coming out of the debut album with more 1215 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 1: anticipation than fifty. Yeah, that shit was crazy. I wonder 1216 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 1: how the fun did it happen like that because it 1217 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 1: wasn't like he was doing a crazy feature run. It 1218 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 1: wasn't like in the Club was that ship, it was 1219 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 1: a it was it was like, I can't remember a 1220 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 1: bigger song than in the Club. I remember having that 1221 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: shit on a Casele mixtape on my disc man in 1222 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 1: high school and me and my friends would just listen 1223 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 1: to in the Club with all the drops and shoutouts 1224 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 1: over and over. I feel like I'm gonna say this 1225 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 1: and this might be crazy. Bro. I feel like as 1226 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 1: big as The Box was, if we were in the 1227 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 1: selling record time, I feel like it would have did 1228 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 1: those type of numbers. Bro. Definitely, the Box was one 1229 00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 1: of the craziest records I've heard. I agree wholeheartedly. Literally, 1230 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: my car, Bro, I call that ship right away. When 1231 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 1: I was I was in Hawaii listening to the album 1232 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 1: and they were like, yoyo, we should be playing uh. 1233 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: I forget which record that they wanted to play at 1234 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 1: the station because it had a feature on it had 1235 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 1: uh you talking about the one with h the dude 1236 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 1: from the kid from New York. Hey Buggy on it record. 1237 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 1: There was a record on there and they were like, 1238 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 1: no, no no, we're gonna go. This one's got the big 1239 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: feature until the label picks it. I'm like, bro, the 1240 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 1: boxes the box like track two, yeah, track two right, 1241 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I heard that. I was like, oh 1242 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 1: my god. I showed it to everybody. I think Roddy 1243 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Rich and Post Malone have the best melodies in the 1244 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 1: history of music. I hate to say that because people 1245 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 1: are gonna hate kill me in the comments, but bro, 1246 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 1: the way Roddy Rich can skate in a verse melodically, 1247 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 1: the pockets he hits on his melodies, it's fucking crazy, 1248 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 1: at least in the in the last like ten years. 1249 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't know about the history of There's Michael Jackson, 1250 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: there's Quincy Jones, here was fucking you know, Lionel Ritchie 1251 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 1: and shit. But god, did Drake hits some crazy pockets? No, no, Drake. 1252 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,720 Speaker 1: But I just think Drake and Post like they're like, 1253 01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 1: melody game is so unfair. I'd be like, it's impossible 1254 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 1: for Roddy Rich to not make a song that is 1255 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,280 Speaker 1: easy to listen to. Yeah, Like, I've never heard of 1256 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 1: Roddy record that. I'm like, man, turn that shit off. Yeah, 1257 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 1: it's like all his record like post Malone's the same way. Like, 1258 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 1: even if you're not a post Malone fan, all his music, 1259 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 1: you got to get ros here. Oh my god, bro, 1260 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 1: it's crazy. He's one of those artists that literally just 1261 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 1: makes his after hits, that's all he does. And then 1262 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Roddy's gonna be the same way. Yeah. I'm excited to 1263 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 1: see what Roddy does next because I got a feeling 1264 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 1: it's coming soon. We'll see. Been a year since the 1265 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 1: album dropped. Yeah, it came out last December. I was 1266 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 1: in Hawaii. It was just it came out the same 1267 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 1: the same week they Juice World died. Wow. Yeah, it's crazy. 1268 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 1: I remember I was in Hawaii for the first time, 1269 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 1: riding around convertible listening to Roddy's album and found that 1270 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 1: Juice World died. I was like, fuck yeah, shout out 1271 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: to uh to Roddy Rich though, But yo, man, your 1272 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,680 Speaker 1: project Idols is out, ye go follow. We actually got 1273 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: a freestyle dropping with him too that will come out 1274 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,120 Speaker 1: a few days after this comes out. So being a 1275 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,280 Speaker 1: lookout for that and being a look out for a 1276 01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 1: lot of stuff with you, you can stay in the 1277 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 1: him for a while. Yeah. Man, that's the way. I'm 1278 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: good on bread, So there you go. Yeah that's bro. Yeah, 1279 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm good on bread, so I don't need to do 1280 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 1: no crazy deal. And like I said, it's it's it's 1281 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: labels that I would want to work with. Drop some 1282 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 1: fucking merch man. Yeah, you're gonna talk. You gonta run 1283 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 1: that merch up, Bud. Yeah, I'm gonna rush some sh 1284 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 1: it up Katry Walker. If you haven't heard his ship, 1285 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 1: go tap in, tap in Boom.