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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host Mark Kenny. This episode number tennis show, Dan

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Speaker 1: and I are going to be discussing our final preparations

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Speaker 1: for the two thousand fourteen season and our plans for

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Speaker 1: our opening weekend hunts. The season is finally here, so

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Speaker 1: get ready and enjoy. All right, welcome to the Wired

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Speaker 1: to Hunt Podcast. Tod in the show, it's just me

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Speaker 1: and my co host Dan and Dan, how are you doing? Mark?

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Speaker 1: I missed you, man, that was like, what two weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've been away for a little while here. Man, it's

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Speaker 1: you're you're kind of like a dog, you know, like

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Speaker 1: you go away on a vacation. You're like, Man, I

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Speaker 1: wonder what my dog's doing. I hope he's not like

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Speaker 1: going to the bathroom on the carpet. Maybe this is

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Speaker 1: maybe that's a bad analogy, but well, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: not too far from what I've been doing. I've had

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Speaker 1: a kind of rough spell here while I've been gone

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Speaker 1: to um as. You know, you know a couple of

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Speaker 1: people probably know I Uh, we had a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a leave of apps's here from the podcast, in

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Speaker 1: part because I was out on my elk cutting trip,

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Speaker 1: which we'll talk about here in a little bit, which

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Speaker 1: was awesome. Um, but then are our episode this week

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Speaker 1: got delayed because I had my wisdom teeth taken out,

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Speaker 1: and um, I thought that was gonna make a one

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Speaker 1: day thing and I'd be back and going by the

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Speaker 1: next day. But it is not. It has not been

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Speaker 1: that way at all. I've been pretty pretty into the weather. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'll dope it up on viking in and all swollen

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Speaker 1: up and stuff. So today was the first day I

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Speaker 1: could really kind to talk and sound halfway normal. Um.

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Speaker 1: So I think I sound decent now, but I'm probably

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Speaker 1: not quite the same cheerful self I am. But if

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Speaker 1: you can forgive me for that, Dan, I'll try and

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Speaker 1: make it through this as best as possible. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: want to slide this time, But the next time you

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Speaker 1: getting teeth pulled, maybe you should check with me first.

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Speaker 1: I know, I really should. I should have checked with

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Speaker 1: someone about this. It was I've been I've been putting

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Speaker 1: out for a while I knew the wisdom teeth had

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Speaker 1: to come out for for quite a bit time now,

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Speaker 1: but it was always, you know, one reason or another

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Speaker 1: I could push it off. And um, finally my wife

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Speaker 1: just kept hammering me home about the fact you just

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Speaker 1: gotta get done, gotta get done. So I finally scheduled

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Speaker 1: it and went in. And so I go in there

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Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, and you know, from everything I've heard, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna knock me out on gonna false sleep during your

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Speaker 1: teeth out, and then I'll be going pretty strong for that. Well,

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Speaker 1: just before the surgery, they bring me into this room

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Speaker 1: and set me down and they put up these X

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Speaker 1: the doctor says, okay, see here, here's your teeth. There's

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Speaker 1: your four wisdom teeth. Now do you see this bottom

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Speaker 1: two wisdom teeth. And do you see that line that

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Speaker 1: runs on the bottom, Well, that line is your job

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Speaker 1: and your two bottom wisdom teeth. I think they said, are.

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Speaker 1: I think they call it impacted or something. They're the

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Speaker 1: roots of the wisdom teeth are. So they've been in

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Speaker 1: there for so long they've dugged down into my job room.

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Speaker 1: So like my wisdom teeth roots have gone like halfway

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Speaker 1: through my job on and there's a nerve that runs

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Speaker 1: through that part of your jaw, and so the doctor

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Speaker 1: tells him, He's like, so because of that, when we

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Speaker 1: fifteen chance that when we do that, we could damage

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Speaker 1: And I'd like, I had this look on my face,

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Speaker 1: like utter shock, and like, how do you tell me this?

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Speaker 1: Two minutes before surgery and there's nothing I can do now.

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Speaker 1: I was just like paralyzed with fear. What did he do?

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Speaker 1: Give me like a flap on the back and then say, oh,

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Speaker 1: He like you're never going to feel your face again. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Did you happen to have a dream

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Speaker 1: like in the movie The Big Lobowski. No, I did

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Speaker 1: not know that would have been cool. It would have

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Speaker 1: but no, no, no crazy dreams. I just man, I've

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Speaker 1: just been a lot of pain, a lot of swelling.

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to leave tomorrow morning for Ohio to start hunting.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about my condition, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: trying to make it work. So are you a man, Mark?

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Speaker 1: I am? I am. So you're going to deal with

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Speaker 1: it and you're gonna go to Ohio. This is all true.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna make it work. Well, just as

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Speaker 1: Your season and IOWA starts next week and most everybody

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Speaker 1: And from everything we've been hearing from people, you know,

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Speaker 1: hoping for a little help now to get that word out.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna run a little bit of a contest

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Speaker 1: over the course of the next week, and what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you to do is to post a short review,

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Speaker 1: just a couple of sentences, either on your Facebook page

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Speaker 1: about it. And if you do that, take a screenshot

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Speaker 1: me at Mark at wired hunt dot com. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: enter you into a drawing and next week I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: draw a winner, and that winner will get a Wired

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Speaker 1: So am I out of the contest? You know, technically

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Speaker 1: you probably are, but I'd still encourage you Dan to

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Speaker 1: You know, the last time we had a podcast, Dan,

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Speaker 1: hunts went. So Dan, maybe you can kick us off

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Speaker 1: But UM, I had after I talked, after the we

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Speaker 1: UM and basically glassed him and we we kind of

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Speaker 1: told me, so, I'm proud of you, Mark, thank you,

429
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 1: thank you, appreciate it. I am. It was pretty cool,

430
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: pretty cop that I hope that all overflows to the

431
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: White Tails this year, that luck you got going for you. Yeah, yeah,

432
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 1: I hope so. And I think that's probably perfect segue

433
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: for us to move into the real meat and potatoes

434
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: that we want to talk about today, um, which is

435
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: White Tails and the start of the new season. Um.

436
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: I really do hope that luck follows follows me into

437
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: this next weekend because I'm going to Ohio tomorrow morning,

438
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 1: like I mentioned, and uh, me and Josh are gonna

439
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: be chasing some those big Ohio Ohio bucks. So I

440
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm pretty excited about that, but maybe before

441
00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 1: I dive into my plans for this weekend, then next

442
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: week's on some curius stand when do you start hunting

443
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: and uh, what what are your plans for those first

444
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: couple of hunts. Well, Um, this year, I will be

445
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,919
Speaker 1: able to hunt October one, opening night on the public

446
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: land that is by my house. I'm going to give

447
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 1: public land hunting a couple of shots this year. Um.

448
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of scouting in the area, you know,

449
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: basically just driving around in my truck. I've done some

450
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: scouting in some particular spots. But I'm gonna be able

451
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: to you know, my my goal is just to shoot

452
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: some doughs on the public property. I'm not although I've

453
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: seen one what I would call potential shooter. UM, I've

454
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: got you know, I just want to I want to

455
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: shoot some shoot some doughs and allows me the opportunity

456
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: to hunt during the week Now, during the weekends, I'll

457
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 1: be going back to um my main farm, the good

458
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: the good farm that I have UM back near my

459
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: hometown and UM that's where I'm gonna be doing the

460
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: early season hunting as far as um, you know, the

461
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 1: first weekend of October. The second one. Ryan, the guy

462
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: that I'm going to be filming for this year, he uh,

463
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: He'll be coming down the weekend of the eighteen for

464
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: what we could. I guess you consider an early season hunt. Um,

465
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: and then I'll be hunting and then um, my vacation

466
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: starts basically Halloween night, and uh, I'll be hunting November

467
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: one through. I shouldn't say I'll be hunting, I'll be

468
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: filming Ryan um and if he kills then, um, then

469
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: then it will be my turn. So UM, basically, like

470
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,959
Speaker 1: I said in in other blogs and other um podcast,

471
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm giving I'm basically giving up my season to

472
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: film Ryan and help him get his his buck. Yeah,

473
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: that's pretty awesome now that said though, it sounds like

474
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: you are going to get to hunt your good spots

475
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: this first weekend next week, and I guess it would be. Um,

476
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: you're feeling pretty good about that. Do you have do

477
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: you have a spot picked out or somebody some ideas

478
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: of what you might want to do those first couple

479
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: of hunts there. Yeah. I mean I've been looking at

480
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: the wind directions and based and you know, trying to

481
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: figure out if the food is going to be in

482
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 1: or if it's gonna be gone, and that kind of

483
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: makes it, you know, that has to help me make

484
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: my decision. You know, if the crops are in if

485
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: the crops are out, um where where I'll be hunting.

486
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:37,479
Speaker 1: But I'll be honest with you. This year, Okay, So

487
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: like the past three years, I've had a mega giant

488
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: like something you know, deer close to uh for the

489
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: past um you know, for the past four years on

490
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: on trail cameras. This year I don't have that, but

491
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: I like it better because I have probably seven deer

492
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: that are that um since my asked card pool, are

493
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: still on trail cameras. Uh. And we're talking five six

494
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: seven year old bucks. So the age structure is awesome.

495
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: This year. I've never had anything like that that is awesome.

496
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: And those are pictures you're getting in September, right, uh right, Um,

497
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: Everyone that I've gotten so far, um minus one. There's

498
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: one buck that disappeared. But as far as um trail

499
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: cameras are concerned, I've captured um all six of them

500
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: hard horned. As good news as it always seems like

501
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: to me that if you can catch them in September

502
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: once are hard horned, there's a really good chance that

503
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: that's a buck that's sticking around your property for most

504
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: of the hunting season. Um, that that relocation has happened.

505
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: Already during that first week in September last week August.

506
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 1: So I'm glad to hear you got some big boys

507
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: still hanging out, right, and the thing that I'm a

508
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: little weary about, but not at the same time. Okay,

509
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: so last a huge drought, really dry, not a lot

510
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: of rain. The the acorn trees barely dropped anything. This

511
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: year with the wet summer that we had and the

512
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: huge amount of moisture that we had from the winter,

513
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: the trees are dropping acorns like crazy. I mean, I've

514
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: never seen anything like it. Crazy amount of acorns um which.

515
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: Last year the crops went out, the bucks seemed to disappear,

516
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: they went to other food sources. They didn't have the acorns,

517
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: so they were it was hard for me to uh

518
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: to find them. But this year, the crops, once they

519
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: go out, oh man, they're gonna have a ton of

520
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: food still in the timber. Yeah, just gonna't matter. Figuring

521
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: out where they're which ridge file acorns are hitting and

522
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: then be there right. Just run those tail cameras, check

523
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: them every weekend. Now you know, I'm I'm now that

524
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: a tonning season. I'm gonna be checking these trail cameras

525
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: every week akend, one time every weekend, and uh, um,

526
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: if what I find on these trail cameras determines where

527
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hunt, and so so that early season strategy

528
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: for you then is run your trail cameras and then

529
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: figure out which food source they're closest to and then

530
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: assume that's where they're gonna be feeding and then start

531
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: setting up on those types of areas. Is that about right? Yeah,

532
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: for the most part. For the most part, if I

533
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: get some kind of activity, Um, I'll pull trail cameras

534
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: from other areas that I that I are dead, so

535
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: to speak, and I'll move more trail cameras into the

536
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: area where I'm getting pictures of these mature box and

537
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: hopes to basically triangulate their position, and then that's where

538
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm hunting. I'll find a trail or I'll hopefully have

539
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: a tree stand already set up in that area from

540
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: you know historical you know historical data from other seasons.

541
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 1: But but yeah, that's work those trail cameras move them in.

542
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: When you move more into the area. When you have

543
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: a a shooter that's either making an appearance on another

544
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: camera or you see him from the road or from

545
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: a different tree stand and start that cat and mouse game. Yeah,

546
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: so I'm curious. I've got an opinion on this, but

547
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: I want to hear yours first and then I'll dive in. Um,

548
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: But where do you stand when it comes to how

549
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: aggressive you get in this first part of October mid October? Um?

550
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: Are you gonna it? Sounds like you're you're willing to

551
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: start that cat and mouse game and really get after it. Um.

552
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: Are you being aggressive at this time of year? Or

553
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: are you gonna be holding off at least on your

554
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: better spots until later in October or November. Man, that's

555
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 1: hard because it just depends on what the trail cameras

556
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: are saying. Um, if there's a buck in the area

557
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: or I see him, Let's say, Friday night, I get

558
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: to my stand and I see a buck in a

559
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: different in the next area or a different area of

560
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: making his way, you better believe I'm going to be

561
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: in that area the next day. But I'm not gonna

562
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: be blindly jumping into betting areas or um areas that

563
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: I haven't done any scouting in or there's no sign, Um,

564
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: you know I've hunted this. You know A couple of

565
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: these property is long enough now to where I've I've

566
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: learned the hard way on where to go and how

567
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: to hunt. But um, but you know, I'm not making

568
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: any hail Mary's If that makes any sense, Yeah, you

569
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: know it does. Um. Yeah, I'm not too different from that.

570
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: Um My, My whole frame of mind around the early season,

571
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: really the whole season in general, is I take a

572
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: look at the first few days of the season, I'm

573
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: willing to go into some of my better spots just

574
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: because those deer have not been pressured in a long time.

575
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: They're still sticking to the regular patterns. Um. So, the

576
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: first couple of nights in Ohio, first couple of nights

577
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: in Michigan, I'm gonna be heading into better areas. Maybe

578
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: not necessarily absolute best, but some of my better spots

579
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: that should be, um, you know, close to a good

580
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: food source, which should allow for a good evening early

581
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: season hunt. Um. As soon as that those first couple

582
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: are done, though, I'm back and way off and I'm

583
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: not really going to be pushing into any of my

584
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: good areas until again late October. Um. The only thing

585
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: that could change that could be what you said that

586
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: being a daylight setting or daylight trail camera picture that

587
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: makes me think that there is a mature deer and

588
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: moving during daylight right now in this area. I'm at

589
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: the point now where if I do have that kind

590
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: of sign where that kind of um, you know, indicator,

591
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: you gotta move in, you gotta hunt that deer right away.

592
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: But otherwise I'm not gonna be pushing it. Um. So

593
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: my plan for this weekend in Ohio, We're going down there,

594
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: Josh and I, and we're not gonna hunt in the mornings.

595
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna hunt just Saturday night and Sunday night. And

596
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've talked about this before day

597
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: or not, but I don't like to hunt Monday or

598
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: not Monday mornings. I don't like to hunt mornings during

599
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: October for the most part, um because from what I found,

600
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: and I actually just started doing this last year, um,

601
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: is that morning hunts in many cases are pretty low odds.

602
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: A lot of those mature boxer are moving back to

603
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: bed before daylight. And so if you're heading in there

604
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: to go hunt in the morning, even if you're getting

605
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: to stand an hour and a half before dark or

606
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: before daylight, there's still a good chance of bumping that

607
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: deer um and the odds of actually encowering a good

608
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: buck in the morning after daylight, it's just pretty pretty

609
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: low odds. And I would rather minimize those potential risks

610
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: in the mornings, have better hunts in the evenings, and

611
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: then reduced that overall pressure until later in October when

612
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: I think those morning hunts can can be better. Um.

613
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: So that's something that I actually wrote a full article

614
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: about in the most recent issue of North American Whitetail.

615
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: Um So I think I much more eloquently describe my

616
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: my reasons for that in that article. Uh. But that's

617
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: something that I'm thinking about right now, is avoiding those

618
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: mornings hunting the evenings and um So this weekend it's

619
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: gonna be not great conditions though in Ohio it's gonna

620
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: be pretty warm, um like eighty degrees in the evening.

621
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: So what I'm looking at is a low impact stand

622
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: site where I can get to an area where there

623
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: might be deer transitioning out of their bedding areas to food. Um.

624
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: But I don't want to be pushing anything close to

625
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: the bedding areas. So there's a couple different stands sites.

626
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: So I think we can hunt with the easterly wind

627
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: that looks like we're gonna have UM, and these are

628
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: both stands that we can get to our walk in

629
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: the edge of the cornfield in and then just hunting

630
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: the edge of these fingers. We've got these two big

631
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: fingers of timber like come out of a big block

632
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: of timber out into these cropt fields, and the deer

633
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: typically transition out and along those heading out to feed.

634
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: So I think that me and Jashton both get set

635
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: up in some decent kind of transition areas UM where

636
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: they'll stage a little bit before heading out to feed

637
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: in some of the larger fields out past us. And

638
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: I think it's a situation where we'll be safe with

639
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: the wind. We won't need to push too close to

640
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: really um worry about bumping anything. But we'll still have

641
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: odds of potential season seeing something during daylight, UM, specially

642
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: since we're in you know, our our main property has

643
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: got standing corn and I think these deer are feeling

644
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: pretty comfortable moving all through there during daylight. We have

645
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: tons of daylight truck camera pictures of big bucks out

646
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: there because there's just so much cover. So I think

647
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: there's a decent chance to seeing something, but I'm not

648
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: necessarily you getna put any money on it. And given

649
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: how hot it's going to be, we're gonna get out there.

650
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna give it a shot and check o a

651
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: couple of cameras that are out there, which it give

652
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: us a little bit more intel. And then after those

653
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: two hunts, we're gonna bail out of there and then

654
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 1: not come back until probably late October. So that's uh,

655
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: that's the high level plan for this weekend. I'm excited

656
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: to get out there, excited to see, you know, just

657
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: be in the woods and um kind of see what

658
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 1: things are looking like. Right. I just want to go

659
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: back to morning hunts a moment, and uh, I I

660
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: agree with most of what you what you said as

661
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: far as um uh you know, low impact, not going

662
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: in and you know, jumping something that is coming back

663
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: from a food source. And when I say I hunt mornings,

664
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: I go to stand that are easily accessible. UM, you

665
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: know they they're they're gonna be right off of a

666
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: deep ravine or on a um let's see that's one example,

667
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: or off a two track or um off of a

668
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: creek where the access routes are very very easy to

669
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: get to, UM, and you're quiet going in, you have

670
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: the good wind. I'm not going to be ultra aggressive, um,

671
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: you know going into a giant you know, stopping through

672
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: the middle of the timber where I'm not going to

673
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: be sitting all day, UM, just kind of going in

674
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: waiting for him to come back to bed. And most

675
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: of the morning hunts early season, honestly, I'll be looking

676
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: to get a doll. Yeah. Yeah, I think a lot

677
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: of that makes sense. I UM. I think something else

678
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: you you mentioned being your access routes is something super

679
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: super important at all times of the year, but especially

680
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: in the early season, because right now you have the opportunity,

681
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: if you hunt smart, to keep the pressure relatively low

682
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: on your local deer. UM. But if you start getting careless,

683
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: if you start tramping around very quickly, you can change

684
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: the whole dynamic of your property and change the way

685
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: you're hunting. Can be for the for the next couple

686
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: of weeks or months. Right. So you know, I really stress,

687
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: especially in the early season, be really really careful about

688
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: how you get in and out. UM. And then when

689
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: it comes to being aggressive, we talked about being aggressive

690
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: with our stand placement. Another thing I would recommend is UM,

691
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, not being aggressive. I'd recommend not being aggressive

692
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: with calling UM. I actually wrote an article about this

693
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: on Weird Hunt this week. At least in my opinion,

694
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: I believe that in the early season you really need

695
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: to be careful with how you're calling UM. For me,

696
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: aggressive calls or really something that I'm saving for the

697
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: rut time periods somewhere around late October in November. This

698
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: time of year, I'm really just trying. If I'm gonna

699
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: do any calling at all, it's just just gonna be

700
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: like a curiosity type call. So maybe a light contact

701
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: grunt UM, maybe a light bleat and something like that,

702
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: something that might just say, hey, I'm a deer and

703
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: I'm over here. I'm not gonna be trying anything crazy

704
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: because this time you're dear just aren't doing those aggressive

705
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: calls or not having big knockdown fights with you know,

706
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: rattling sequences and stuff. So that kind of stuff isn't natural.

707
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: So if you start doing that kind of thing right now,

708
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: it's going to spookle O deer. So UM, it's important

709
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: to just be careful when it comes to not getting

710
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: too aggressive with pushing the betting ears. Not too aggressive

711
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: with how you're calling, um, and then of course you

712
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: know with how you're entering and exiting stand sites, you

713
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: gotta be careful there too. Um. I'm not even bringing

714
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: I don't even bring my rattling antlers with me until

715
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: late October. And as far as a grunt call, the

716
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: only time I'm using a grunt call in the early

717
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: season is if I see a deer, I see a

718
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: buck worth calling at. Because um, even though they're not aggressive,

719
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: there still is a pecking order in the timber. And UM,

720
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: I've honestly heard dear snort weise the very first week

721
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: in October, and there's I mean, you can see it

722
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: from mineral stations all summer long. The big buck comes

723
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: right in and he takes over whatever is in that

724
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: whatever whoever is at that mineral station. If he's in

725
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: the area, he's going write to it, he's going to

726
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: plan in his butt and he's he's in charge. Yeah,

727
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: you know that. Like you said, the pecking order, the

728
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: pecking order is definitely very real. And UM, I'm right

729
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: there with you in regards to calling. I don't do

730
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: any calling either unless I see a buck that I

731
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: want to bring in a little bit closer and only

732
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: in those circumstances while I do a little bit of

733
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of grunning. UM. So we've talked a

734
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: little bit about, you know, stand sites, entry and access

735
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: calling um our plans for the first couple of hunts.

736
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: I thought it might share a story from last season. UM.

737
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: I think illustrates a number of different things that I'm

738
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: thinking about when I'm looking at an early season hunt

739
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: and kind of how I break that down. UM. So

740
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: maybe I'll share this story with the dan a couple

741
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: of lessons that I learned from it, and um, if

742
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: you have any questions about why I did stuff or

743
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: how things went, um, feel free to ask. But hopefully

744
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: this might illustrate some of the things I think should

745
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: be considered when going into an early season hunt, like

746
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: many of us will be over the next couple of

747
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: days or weeks. Um. So this story was last season

748
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the two thousand thirteen season, October

749
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: five or six, I think, Um, it was that first weekend,

750
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: and I had you know, as I mentioned before, I

751
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: typically don't want to go into any of my good

752
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: areas until maybe those first couple of days of the

753
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: season or wait till October and November. Late October and November, well,

754
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: I had seen one of the mature bucks on this

755
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: farm from a distance while scouting from a long ways

756
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: away with my bnoculars. I'd seen him walking across an

757
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: opening like three days before the season it opened. And

758
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: then I went and tracked to camera and I got

759
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: a daylight trail camera picture of the same buck in

760
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: the same general area again. And this is all in

761
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: those couple of days before the season. So I felt

762
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: confident that hunt into one of these better areas was

763
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: worth doing because I'd had to daylight you know, sightings

764
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: um or pictures, which gave me a pretty clear indicator

765
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: that hey, he's moving in the area, it's worth you know,

766
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: moving in on him. So I then try to fall

767
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, where do I want to hunt? And when

768
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: it comes to an early season hunt, I'm looking for

769
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Number One, it's got to be

770
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: low pressure. So all the low pressure pieces we just

771
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: talked about they had to fit that bill. So I

772
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: didn't want my wind affecting, you know anything. I didn't

773
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: want to have to access through betting cover or do

774
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: anything that might bumped here, so I was able to find,

775
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: um one of my stand sites that I really like,

776
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: I set up particularly or specifically just for an early

777
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: season hunt like this. I planned a food plot um

778
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: with oats and some clovers and some different things that

779
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: were really going to be attractive earlier in the year.

780
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: And then at she had a box blind of redneck

781
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: blind set up right off this food plot a little

782
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: ways and then there's a little betting area not too

783
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: far off on the other side of that, and so

784
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: I could catch I could catch deer moving off that

785
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: betting area and intercept them between the bed and the

786
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: feed when I was in this redneck blind, and so

787
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: I had the daylight signings this buck. I had a

788
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: stand site where I know I could get to it safely,

789
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: and I could get out of there safely, and I

790
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: felt pretty good about my chances of not really alerting

791
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: any other deer in the area. Now, the final thing

792
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: that kind of all lined up that made me realize

793
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: I really had to go in there and hunt. Excuse me,

794
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: was losing my voice hold one second here, Damn well,

795
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: I think that's better. Um. So another thing that lined

796
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: up here was the fact that I had a cold

797
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: front hitting. And this is another big thing that I

798
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: really like to pay attention to in the early season

799
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: and really all year, is cold fronts. And I had

800
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: a front coming in where the temperature was gonna drop

801
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: about ten to fifteen degrees from the previous day's highs

802
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: and was gonna bring some precipitation in. So I had

803
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: all these different things lined up. And when I saw

804
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: the cold front was hitting on day I think it

805
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: was Sunday, I knew that that was the day I

806
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: had to get in there and hunt, and so I

807
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: moved in, I got everything set up, I decided to

808
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: hunt that spot. One thing, though, was a bit off.

809
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: When I actually decided to go in there and hunt,

810
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: the wind had changed a little bit, and so were

811
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: previously I thought I was not going to be in

812
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: danger of getting winded. Now I potentially could. But because

813
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: the front was hitting, because I had the daylight sightings,

814
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: because I knew I was on a hot food source,

815
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 1: all those things were lined up, I thought I could

816
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: maybe cut the corner of the on the wind a

817
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: little bit and get away with a little bit of

818
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: a risk. And I think sometimes you do need to

819
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: do that, especially with the wind. Oftentimes when a mature

820
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: buck is going to move into a feeding area or

821
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: to a betting or wherever he's headed. He's gonna want

822
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: that wind in his favor. So sometimes you're gonna have

823
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: to hunt a stand where the deer thinks he has

824
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: a win in his in his favor, but you just

825
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: barely may or may not have working for you. So

826
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: in this case, I thought I was gonna be great

827
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: on that edge, and long story short, I got set up,

828
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: the deer start piling into feed, the rain hit, the

829
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: temperatures dropped, the deer moving on their feet like crazy,

830
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: and I ended up having two different mature box moving

831
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 1: that night. One of them was six shooter Um who

832
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: you know many. We've talked about him many times before

833
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: I ended up killing him later in the year. The

834
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: other buck was Leaner, who was another dealer we've talked

835
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: about a lot. He moved in and got to within

836
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: forty yards of entering a shooting lane where I could

837
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: have taken him, and everything had paid off, all those risks,

838
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: all those different conditions that I was looking for in

839
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: a good early season hunt. Everything had lined up except

840
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: for the last thing, and that was that tricky wind.

841
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: And what happened was a dough had moved in just

842
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: to that kind of downwind angle where my wind was blowing.

843
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: She winded me, and because of that, she blew out

844
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: the field and blew out the all the deer and

845
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: leaner took off running. But if it hadn't been for her,

846
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: all those different little risks and little pieces of paul

847
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: where it all came together, and I kind of had

848
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: a perfect early season set up that just barely didn't work. Um,

849
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: But it was one of those situations where I think,

850
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: you know, I look at all those different pieces of

851
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: the puzzle and that's what I'm looking for in a

852
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: perfect early season hunt. If I can get those different

853
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: things to line up, that's you know, the kind of

854
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: early season hunt that I want to go on. And

855
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: that's you know what I'm willing to push the limits

856
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: when I have everything lined up like that, right, stay

857
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: away from those hail Mary's. That's basically what it comes

858
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: down to. Use the information that your cameras uh and

859
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: that your brain is providing you and um, you know,

860
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: if you fail, you fail, that's hunting. But if you're

861
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: going in there tromping around making uneducated guesses at what

862
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: to do. It's your own fault. Yeah, yeah, I have

863
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: to think. Um. I think maybe the bigger one of

864
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: the big lessons I learned from this was that, you know,

865
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: while I am pretty risk averse earlier in the year,

866
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: sometimes when all the conditions are right, like it wasn't

867
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: that case, I'm okay taking a risk. I'm willing to

868
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: take that risk if all those different pieces are there,

869
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's not gonna play out right like it

870
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: did in this situation. But I think the key thing

871
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: is making sure that if you're gonna do that, if

872
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna take a risk, make sure it's very informed.

873
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: Make sure you have all the different pieces of the

874
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: puzzle and the reasons why. You know. Don't, like you said,

875
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: don't throw a hail Mary just because just because it's

876
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: the opening day of the season and you want to

877
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: hunt somewhere, Um good, you know, don't just dive in there.

878
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: Make sure you've got good reasons why you're going to

879
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: move in there, because you can do a lot more

880
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: harm this time of year if you're not being smart

881
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: than than good. So I think, um, I think, with

882
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 1: all that said, my plan in Michigan. So I'm hunting

883
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: Ohio tomorrow and Sunday and then I'll be back and

884
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: it opens in Michigan Wednesday night. UM, I could hunt Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

885
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: whatever those nights. But it looks like it's gonna be

886
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: pretty hot. We've got a big cold front hitting though

887
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: on Saturday and looks like it's gonna drop like fifteen

888
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: degrees again, So I'm leaning towards probably not hunting. Maybe

889
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: I'll hunt opening day, but at least not hunt in

890
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: my good area. I think I'm gonna wait to hunt

891
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: my good a until that cold front hits on Saturday

892
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: and Sunday, and moving to one of those early season

893
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: food sources. UM. I planned a couple really nice little

894
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: food plots that I think will be pulling some deer

895
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: into an area that I want to hunt. So tentatively

896
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: that's what I'm planning on doing um next weekend. But again,

897
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: it's really gonna come down to what's the wind doing,

898
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: what's the precipitation, what are the temperatures. UM. I really

899
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: pay attention to all that a lot this time of year,

900
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: and so and so we will see. Well, good luck man,

901
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 1: thank you, I appreciate it. I think, um, I should

902
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: have some kind of updates for for everyone by tomorrow

903
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: night or Sunday if nothing else, will have some trout

904
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: camera pictures, um, which would be pretty cool. I'm excited

905
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: to see. You know, we haven't been down in the

906
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: least since August, so I'm excited to see what deer

907
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: still hanging out there, um, now that they're heart warned

908
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: and deer kind of moved to their fall territories. So right,

909
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: I just want to cover something real quick about a calling, um,

910
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: and it's I've learned every one of these lessons the

911
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: hard way. And if you see a deer, or if

912
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: a deer you know, I think as a hunter, understanding

913
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: a deer's body, um, how he's acting. You know, if

914
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: he's alert, don't call at him. You know, if he's

915
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 1: caught your wind, don't call at him. All you've done

916
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: there is educate him and he's gone. And more than

917
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: likely he's gonna because he's already alert, he's gonna pinpoint

918
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: you in your location, look up at the tree at you,

919
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: and then he's gone. The second one is if there's

920
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: a deer who is above you, be very very careful

921
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: on your calling because he's going to be able to

922
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: look down and see that there's no deer there unless

923
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: it's very thick. You know, if it's wide open and

924
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: he's a he's above you, that's a no no as well.

925
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: One trick that I've kind of taught myself is to

926
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 1: cover the front of my ground call or turn around

927
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: to the side to where the exit of the tube

928
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: is facing away from the deer so it doesn't sound

929
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: as close. You know, whether whether that will help a

930
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: person or not, it's something that I do and I've

931
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: I've seen success with over the past years. Yeah, I

932
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: think that's great advice. I'm right there with you, especially

933
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: when it comes to um, you know, not overcalling once

934
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: a deer. You know, once you already have his attention,

935
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: the worst thing you can do is keep calling to

936
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: him when he's already looking at you. Yeah. So I

937
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: learned that lesson with a hundred and eight twelve pointer. Um.

938
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: Oh geez, maybe four years ago. Uh, he came in.

939
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: He caught my trail where we walked in, or my

940
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: my scent, I don't really know. The wind was kind

941
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: of squirreling that night. He kind of got alert. I

942
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: turned around, he turned around, I grunted. He kind of

943
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: looked back in the area, but it was already in

944
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: his mind that I've smelled something dangerous and I don't

945
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: want to go over there. But at the same time,

946
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: it was the rut, So he kinda wanted to fight,

947
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: and he kind of wanted to breed. But that that

948
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: knows in the danger censor, for the most part, trumps

949
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: all that stuff. If they know for a fact that

950
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 1: you're that something dangerous is in that area, you lost. Yeah,

951
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: and I rattled and snort wheezed, and I thought he

952
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: was gonna come back, but he didn't. Yeah, they once it.

953
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: Once he lose the game with the nose, it's it's

954
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 1: game over, game over. YEA. Well, I don't know, Dan,

955
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: I UM, I might have rambled here a little bit.

956
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: Today I'm still a little bit induced, like an induced

957
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: rambling here. But is there anything else you think we

958
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: should cover when it comes to early season hunts or

959
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: our basic ideas about early season hunting. To make sure

960
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: we'd the listeners here with some sound helpful advice. Be observant,

961
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: be keep your eyes open, don't and this is what

962
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: I've learned. You know, it's like it is, it is

963
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: the truth. You know that's saying, Um, when the the

964
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: the young bull says to the old bull, Hey, let's

965
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: run down there and let's let's breed a couple of

966
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: those those cows. And the old bull says, well, why

967
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: don't we walk down and breed them all? Once I've

968
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: started learning this patience game with a deer, and and

969
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: not calling all the time, and not grunning all the time,

970
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: and not making these hardcore moves, you know, stupid moves,

971
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: and and being patient, being observant and waiting for the

972
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: right time to hit an area. I've seen more dear

973
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: from the stand than ever before. So and it I

974
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: tell you what, it sucks to not hunting area knowing

975
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: there's a big buck there on the wrong wind. But

976
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: but it will it will help you in the long run.

977
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not the kind I've I've never

978
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: shot a giant, giant deer. I haven't shot a ton

979
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: of bucks, but I do have experience on what I

980
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: what a person can do wrong, and I've done those things.

981
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: So take my word for the for that. Yeah, it's

982
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: it's all. But the timing there really is nothing for

983
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: me too. There's no bigger paradigm shift for me. And

984
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: then when I started realizing that there has to be

985
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 1: the right timing for everything, and that quality of hunts

986
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: is more important than quantity, and so making sure that

987
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: you're timing your hunts right, timing your strategies right, and

988
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: doing all those things at the right times to ensure

989
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: quality hunts versus going out there every single time you

990
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: can and being stupid. Um, it's tough to do. Like

991
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: you said, sometimes you want to be in there you

992
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 1: know there's a deer, or you want to hunt every

993
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: night off you have, um, but that more often times

994
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: than not does not lead to success on these big

995
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: mature deer. So so I think, yeah, if we leave

996
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: the listeners or anything today, it's be patient, be careful,

997
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: hunt smart, and um, you know, take some chances you're

998
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: in the early season if you have reasons to do so,

999
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: if there's evidence and pieces of the puzzle that lead

1000
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: to the fact that there should be a good chance

1001
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: of a mature deer or whether whatever kind of deer

1002
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: it is you're trying to shoot, going to make that move,

1003
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: but make sure you're very careful and don't get too

1004
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: excited and blow things for the rest of the season,

1005
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: right right, Well, I think with that being said, then Dan,

1006
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: I think we'll wrap things up here. I'm just gonna

1007
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: add one quick thing and uh well to actually one

1008
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 1: um if you want to read more about my trip

1009
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: out to western Nebraska and take a look at the

1010
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: buck that I'll be chasing myself and Ryan are going

1011
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: to be chasing this fall, you can go to um

1012
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: nine finger chronicles dot com and check out the blog.

1013
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: And the second thing, and the most important thing, is

1014
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: to wear your safety harness. I've already seen Facebook posts

1015
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: of guys fallen out of the tree or being saved

1016
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: because of a faulty tree stand or a wrong step,

1017
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: So don't be an idiot where your safety harness very

1018
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: important reminders. Thank you for that, dan Um, And then

1019
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: I'll close things up here by also again plugging our

1020
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: little contest. If you have been enjoying Wird Hunt, if

1021
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: you could post a little something on Facebook or on

1022
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: forum or message board, just mentioning the podcast, why you

1023
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: like it, and including a link, we would it would

1024
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: be in the world's rest We really appreciate that. And

1025
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: if you want to take a screenshot of that, email

1026
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 1: it to me at Mark at wired Hunt dot com.

1027
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: I'll get you in that drawing and we will get

1028
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: some pretty sweet prizes out to one of you next week,

1029
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: and as usual then we always do appreciate the reviews

1030
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: on iTunes. Thank you to the seventy three of you

1031
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 1: so far who have left awesome reviews for us there

1032
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: that helps you to absolutely. Speaking of appreciation, of course,

1033
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: we also need to thank our partners who helped make

1034
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: this show possible. So big thank you to Sick of Gear, Trophy,

1035
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: Ridge Bear Archery, Redneck Blinds, Carbon Express Arrows, Hunts, Soft Lacrosse, Boots,

1036
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,120
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1037
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: Institute of North America. I'll tell you what, this is

1038
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: a mouthful too. I can't really talk too well and

1039
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: that's a lot of words to say. We better thank

1040
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: our wives too, because it's coming up on fall Widow season,

1041
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: So honey, I know you're not going to ever listen

1042
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: to this, but uh, sorry for my absence the next

1043
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: two months. Yeah, yeah, make sure all of us we

1044
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: should be making sure to thank our significant others big

1045
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: time because this is that time of year, isn't it. Yeah,

1046
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: definitely so true. And um of course, visit wid dot

1047
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: com slash episode to view some of the different links

1048
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: from some of the things we talked about today, I'll

1049
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: make sure to link to your blog, Dan, and some

1050
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: of the different things I've written about recently that are

1051
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: relevant to our conversation. So all that said, thank you

1052
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: so much for being here with us today. Thanks for

1053
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: dealing with UM you know, our slight delaying getting the

1054
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: podcast out here recently, for dealing with my um questionable

1055
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: talking tactics today to talk with a swell mouth, and

1056
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: as always for for supporting word hunt and being here

1057
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: with us. And until next week, good luck hunting, Let's

1058
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: stay weird Hunt.