WEBVTT - Joe Walsh, Amjad Ali Khan, Amaan Ali Bangash and Ayaan Ali Bangash 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:03.960 Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Inside the 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:07.240 Studio on iHeart Radio. My name is Jordan Runtog, but 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:10.879 enough about me. My guests today come from different cultures, 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:14.720 different continents, and different compositional backgrounds, but together they made 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.599 a unique blend of music design to spread joy and 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:20.840 healing energy. From the West comes Mr Joe Walsh, the 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:23.840 guitar icon who's rocked us for over fifty years with 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.080 spells in the James Gang Barn Storm and of course 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.800 the Eagles. He's joined forces with Maestro Amjad Ali Khan, 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.720 the revered Sarad virtuoso and one of India's greatest musicians. 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.600 Along with Amjad's sons Ayan and Aman, they've recorded a 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:42.519 collaborative EP called Prayers. It's a seamless melding of their 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:47.120 individual disparate sounds. Prayers isn't rock or classical Indian. I 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.120 don't know what you'd call it, but the positivity is palpable. 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.199 Proceeds from the three track collection of a donated to 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.920 Intra Health International, an organization that provides support to front 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.600 line workers during the COVID nineteen pandemic. I grateful that 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:04.600 all four Joe, Amjad Aman and Ayan took the time 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.119 to speak with me. I hope you enjoy our conversation, 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.800 Hi Jan, taking it all the way back to the start, 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:12.840 How did this collaboration start for you? How did you 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:16.760 first cross paths? I met Ayan? Some people I know 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.679 in India said we have a people, we have somebody 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:24.280 that you should meet. So I met Ian and we 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:29.680 sat down and visited, and he showed me his acts 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.640 and I showed him mine, and we had a We 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.160 had a great visit. We had a great visit, and 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.240 I'm grateful that we were introduced to each other. And 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.039 later on down the line, I met his brother and 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.680 they said, hey, you got to meet our dad, and 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:53.560 so eventually I did. It came to pass that I 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:59.040 was explained the serroad and given some lessons with it, 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:04.280 and so I had a little more understanding of what 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:10.160 it was. I did that because they're both string plucked instruments, 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:14.600 so there's enough there to be able to comprehend the 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.600 instrument and the other way around. And we played together, 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.079 figured what that out that was, and it was all 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:26.160 good and it was all positive, and we really enjoyed 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:30.639 each other's company. So eventually we decided maybe we should 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:35.720 try and and make some music somehow, and eventually that 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.800 led you, I have a studio here, and and the 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.120 con family was in the States, and when they got 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:47.640 to Los Angeles, we went into my studio and just 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.600 played and roll tape, shall we say, uh, not knowing 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:55.799 what to do anymore than just let's play and see 0:02:55.840 --> 0:03:00.040 what happens. And and that's what we've done, say and 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.639 then let's just plain and see what happened. And that 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.560 of good music comes out of that mindset. Over the 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:10.840 course of it, we did this project. It's this incredible 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.840 marriage of Eastern and Western music. And on the surface, 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.000 these two types of music seem like they couldn't be 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.360 more different, in different modalities and a lot of different 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.360 poly rhythms. When you got down to it, did you 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:31.400 find that there was more common ground than you initially expected? No, no, no, 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:36.880 I was. I was tontally confused at first because in 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.280 what I do, all you have to do is count 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:43.800 to four. Yeah. Well, Indian music doesn't care about four, 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.840 chef and seven, or chef and eleven. It's all kinds 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.920 of stuff because they've been making music for hundreds of years. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.240 And I always thought it was a big, scary monster 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.040 I could never do that as like jazz. I mean, 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.280 I don't know what's going on. I don't know where 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.520 one is. I don't know what's happening. And in in 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:10.200 the Indian music, there's various scales, not just ours. We 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:16.880 have one that everybody uses. And in Indian music based 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.360 on the century and based on the instrument, and if 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:24.840 it's traditional or if it's spiritual music or whatever, there's 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:28.120 all kinds of notes. There's notes flying all over the place. 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.839 You know, there's notes we don't have. And so that 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.240 was another thing, how is this ever gonna work? And 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:40.240 I felt humble, and I felt like really insecure, and 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:44.279 with that mindset, there's no way it will work. And 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:49.200 I eventually just said, well, hell with all that, I'm 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:53.240 just gonna play. You know, I don't know what's going on. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.360 I don't have to know what's going on. I'm just 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.839 gonna play. And that's when the music started. You know, 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.960 my school, you get a legal pad and you sit 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.160 down and write everything out and how many bars is this? 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.440 And when do I play here? And what what are 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:12.360 the notes? Uh? Not? In Adian music you can do that, 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.960 but you won't get anywhere the best thing to do 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.040 is just immerse yourself in the middle of it and 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:23.000 play along with whatever you hear. In my experience, that's 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.240 the way to deal with it. Of course, eventually you'll 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.800 start to understand what's going on as you learn more, 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:34.719 but you don't have to know what's going on to participated. 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.880 It's so fascinating, especially at a time when you know 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.000 we as a culture, both in the States and in 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.800 the world is at large, feels so divided. It's such 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.640 a powerful statement to think of this, you know, marriage 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:49.240 of two on the surface, dissimilar sounds, it's it's it's 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.560 so powerful. I'm sure. I know you worked with the 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.640 I think it was a Scottish chamber orchestra in two 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:56.920 thousand nine, writing a concerto for them. But was this 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.080 your first involvement in the rock and roll world? How 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.760 how was that for you working in this framework? You see, Fortunately, 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:07.520 sarod and guitar they come from the same family. Sarah 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:11.960 is a Persian word which means music, Sarod means music, 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:16.640 and my forefather's they played and it's a it's an 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:21.640 invention and it's a gift from our family to the world. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:26.240 This instrument, inspiration of this whole project is my throdo 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:31.880 Wolf and his beautiful studio, it's beautiful home and his 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:37.039 gracious hospitality by his wife Marjorie, and it was such 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:42.920 a beautiful atmosphere and all the other fellow musicians who 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.720 worked with they come from l A. So our tracks 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:52.520 you have you have heard them all we shall overcome 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:57.640 and goddess and healing love. You see another tradition. We 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:02.600 are taught vocal music also, so we we express ourselves. 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:07.480 We sink through our instrument. We sink through through that track. 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:18.920 I'm sure you have had it. Dara ra da dara 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:42.200 da da da da da da da dada. So as 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.280 Joe said that we there was no agenda, there was 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.480 no planning, what is going to happen, what will happen, 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:52.680 but will be the outcome. So it's a collaboration, it's 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.960 a contribution of all of all the musicians involved. My 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:01.880 two sons, Ahman and i Am. They also played different tracks. 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.200 And I would like it's an interesting story. I would 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:09.040 like I Am to tell however, so did not arrive 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:14.720 in l A and how the old instrument roles you 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.720 helped us. Well, I mean that's pretty much what happened 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.400 because when we met mister Hold few years back, so 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:25.680 he owned an instrument, so and that's when we presented 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.640 that road to him. We ended up jamming. So this 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.560 recording happened after a few years and my brother, my 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.720 father and we we go on tour in the US 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.719 and we arrived l A from Vancouver Islands. But our 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.560 bags and our instruments didn't land up. And this was 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.400 the day one of the recording, so you know, we 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.360 we I told Marjorie, I said, you know, our instruments 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.480 are not here. Then we were like, wait, is that 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:54.000 instrument that's a road still there at home? And it 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.360 was so that Sta came to the rescue of session 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.560 one and it debuts on the seat be as well. 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.319 So yeah, it was an initiative bump. But then the 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.600 instruments arrived. But that's such a beautiful instrument that's still 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:13.360 with Mysterwards, it's with him and we used it for 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.520 this for this EP, which which made it so much 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:27.560 more special. I mean, the whole session seemed to have 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.520 this great sense of experimentation in there that has to 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.520 been that that must be so exciting for for you 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.680 all who have been making music throughout your entire lifetime. 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.680 To feel that rush of doing something fresh and brand 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.520 new for the first time, that must have been a 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:45.040 really wonderful feeling. Yeah, I I agree. No rule. You know, 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:50.720 we had to learn as we were going along and 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.760 try stuff out. And like I said, you know, on 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:58.839 a professional basis, I would have really introverted and been 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:04.320 afraid only commit myself to playing anything. You know, if 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.760 there was people in the control room watching us, or 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.120 if we're getting paid for it, I would have been 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:16.199 doing But there's no rules. There were no rules, and everybody, 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.160 you know, we we didn't know what was gonna happen. 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.040 We don't know, there was no rules. Nobody's ever done this. 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:28.320 So we just went about our business as artists and 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:33.080 using the command of our instruments that we've achieved and 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:37.040 threw it all in a big pile of noise that 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:41.560 turned into music. And it just we all just said, Okay, 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.920 I'm gonna play here, and I'm gonna try this, and 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.400 oh well, if you're doing that, I'm gonna do this, 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.640 and oh well, hey, you guys are doing that, so 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.440 this will work with that and no rules, And that 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:59.600 was the wonderful thing. And I think that mindset we 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.440 don't have a plan. You know, there's no rules, you 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:09.679 can't do anything wrong, so just play. And that's how 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:15.160 it started. And gradually we started to comprehend the way 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.520 it worked the best, and we learned what didn't work. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:23.920 And I'm a big believer in knowing what not to do. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:29.240 I would say most of my wisdom at my age 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:34.600 is I know what not to do, and that saves 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:40.679 a lot of time. So it just happened naturally and 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.800 it came to be, and I think that's beautiful when 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.040 you can be a part of music like that. Music 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:52.960 is a precious gift of good and music connects the 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:57.360 only two worlds we have realized, the world of sound 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:03.360 and world off words, the literature, and through sound, sound 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:07.120 is very transparent. I mean, if I'm out of tune, 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:11.880 you will come to know. But through language you can 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:16.719 become whatever you want to. But language creates barriers. Unfortunately, 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.880 we were musicians. We would like to see world united, 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:26.760 world connected, as I feel very sad to see in 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:30.760 twenty one century we are still killing each other on 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:36.880 account of religion or racial problems. And today we are 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:41.200 seeing a lot of you know, black life matter, and 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.280 so we have great regards for Martin Luther King and 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:49.600 that's why we played this. We shall overcome, especially in 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:55.400 this situation after this, during this pandemic, before the pandemic, 0:12:56.400 --> 0:13:01.400 and we have great regards for math Ba Gandhi nation, 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:06.120 father of nation of India. He became symbol of peace 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:12.280 and harmony. So unfortunately, you know, education could not create 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.760 compassion and kindness and a human thing. So we need 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:20.120 more compassionate people. We need more. You know, we are 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:24.360 very happy that we have President Biden today in our 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:29.160 life and Vice President Kamla Harris. We have great expectation 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:34.120 and we hope to invite them and perform for them 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:39.240 life soon because we're looking forward for life concerts. So 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:43.960 it's a great honor and pleasure, uh for aman Ay 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:48.640 and all of us to collaborate with mice thro Joe Wolsh. 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:53.560 He's very kind, he's very humble, very gracious, so and 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:57.480 his wife Marjorie. It is entirely because of them we 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.760 could produce this album. Thought if not said, and you 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:04.760 want to say something, man, would you like to say something? Well, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.880 when great masters are speaking, it's better to just listen. 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.320 As you know, I see you learn more when you 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.280 hear but it's a pleasure not to be on the 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:15.440 same platform with my soul wallsh and my father uh 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.840 And it's a it's a sheer, which is a beautiful 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.040 experience of just not the only music, which is of 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.720 human behavior, of seeing the humanity side of such great 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:28.120 maestros working together and giving people like us, bigness like us, 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:31.440 an opportunity to be a part of this amazing album. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.640 It's a very humbling experience for my brother and me. 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.880 We never got into the Soul space thinking we're want 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:38.200 to be a part of it. You're just there to 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:42.240 observe maestro's performed And it just so happened that they 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.640 were gracious enough to give us the room or the 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:48.760 opportunity to be a part of this great project. And also, 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:50.880 you know, I take a minute of saying that it's 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.360 it's a late colamic album is because this was recorded 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:58.280 way back before we arrived all these issues of black 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.200 life matters and all that in the world. We never 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.800 knew what we're going into and it was walking into tsunami. 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:06.920 We never knew were going to be doing that. It 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.960 just so happened that the album was made and the 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:14.120 name of the album was parmically called prayers, which is 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.560 the need of the hour right now, at this point 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.760 of time, I think we all as as my father 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.480 and my so Waltz said, it's so important. I love 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.360 what he just said. It's so important to know what 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.280 you don't want to do. That is the best thing. 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.120 But but having said that, I'm happy he knew that 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:33.440 this was good, so he spent time on people. He 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.720 still spent time on my dad, my brother and me, 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.120 and we've come out with this beautiful album. And I 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.320 hope that in the months and the years to come, 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:45.840 people do understand the whole concept behind the album, that 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.720 it's it's for the it's for the earth healing, and 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.480 to just tell everyone day, we all have the same race, 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.160 and we all have the same sons of the same God, 0:15:54.280 --> 0:16:06.120 and it's just about love and peace. You mentioned the 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:10.120 healing properties of music. I've been for my own growth 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:14.840 and search for peace. I've been exploring the physical properties 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:18.600 of music through soulpeggio frequencies and sound baths about how 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.400 the vibrations can resonate through the body and have healing effects. 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.160 I wanted to ask you what is it about music 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.320 that makes it such an effective healing tool. You can 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:32.320 take a group of people that don't agree on anything, 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:37.760 have different religious beliefs. Uh, normally you wouldn't have anything 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:41.400 to do with each other and shoot them down and 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:46.960 play music and none of that matters while you're playing music, 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:53.280 and everybody goes home happy and recharge. That's a great 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:58.000 gift besides being a musician. Do you know that and 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.560 now know that you can have acted people that way? 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:05.680 I think music is spiritual is all I can say 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.480 to get people that don't agree together to do anything 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:13.960 and they all go home happy. There's something spiritual in that, 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:18.800 and and we feel it and we know it. And 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:23.560 that's why I think live music is so important, because 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.880 it really is healing for people. They get to get 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.960 out of their own heads. They get to get out 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:36.960 of their problems and there their likes and dislikes and 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:43.959 just listen and sign out and stop their minds, stop 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:49.359 their brains and just be and breathe, you know. And 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:54.240 and that's where spiritualism is. Our wish is that this 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:58.760 music will do that for people. And I think that 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:03.159 is part of why we all like to play live shows. 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:08.280 A beautiful answer scientifically, scientifically, it has been proved that 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:14.280 music is very, very important forever mind and body, forever 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:19.240 good health. Appealing music tried on the plants. Plants grow 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.320 faster with the peeling music, catch will give more milk 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:26.000 with the feeling music. So I think this is the 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:31.439 time we really need healing, feeling music. And as you 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:36.119 said that in this kind of collaboration, there is some 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:43.320 universal interference. There is a spirituality. It's a very spiritual, 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:48.520 it's very and everybody you know gave their the pure 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:53.800 heart and soul. So it's our humble contribution towards the 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:59.040 human race. And it's an appeal from us that please 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:03.919 stop team, stop killing each other and stop this, you know, 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:07.880 fight for the racial problems. Just to realize the value 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:11.679 of peace and harmony and think about the future of 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:16.000 your children, because children of the world should achieve everything, 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:18.679 what they want in their life, what they desire in 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:22.760 their life, and music is a therapy. The entire medical 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.879 world they have realized they are treating difficult, you know, 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:31.960 complicated patients with the music. So we are looking forward 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:38.240 for our next collaboration and to visit the beautiful home 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:43.120 of Mr by maestrodo Worlds and Margary and create something 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:48.560 more appealing more healing for the world. You performed at 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.600 the fourth annual vets A concert this year, which was 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.600 a virtual event. Do you have any any concrete plans 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.840 for any other concerts together in the in the months 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:01.240 to come. We are we are know. We just discussed 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.280 with Joe that people are looking forward to once again 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:13.880 participate on the fifteenth of November day. Yeah, but they're 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.400 going to be in the US, so I've invited them 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.520 to come to the vets Sage Shoe will be in Columbus, 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:25.600 Ohio this year, and you know, we're not there yet, 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:31.119 but it would be wonderful to surround ourselves with musicians 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:35.600 with the same concept as we have and play in 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.959 front of people, play live, and see where that goes. 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.880 Because we know that it works. It would be real 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.879 fun to make an orchestra and go play. Uh, I 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.600 don't know what to call it, East West music. I 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.040 guess how has the last year been for you? Have 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.359 you been holding up without being able to tour and 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:57.960 get out there? Oh? Yeah, I mean it was rough. 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:03.119 It was rough for everybody. I mean for years thought, 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:06.720 oh man, I'm just doing this and doing that and 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.119 doing this and doing that, and I'm on the road 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:13.480 and and I'm rehearsing and I'd love to just have 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.720 nothing to do for a while. We'll careful what you 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:22.760 pray for. Yeah, you got three months into it when 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:25.600 it was time to go on the road and everything, 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:29.520 and there wasn't that not possible. I wasn't a rock 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:33.640 star anymore, you know. I was just Joe and he's 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:38.120 pretty boring actually, so I had to get to know me. 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:42.360 I was well, I was. It was strange, but it 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:46.440 was good. It good. I think the whole world got 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:54.359 a chance to shop and reflect and look at it 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:58.879 the big picture. And I hope we use that part 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:04.000 of the experience intelligently when the world opens back up, 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:07.359 because there's some stuff I looked at. I didn't like 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:11.080 some stuff about me. I didn't like some stuff, you know, 0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:15.840 that needed fixing and and like that in the world 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:18.800 around me. And I think maybe the world might be 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:22.520 a better place for all of that, besides all the 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.679 the loss and misery. That's a good silver lining if 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:27.080 you can say that there has been one in the 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:30.399 last year and a half, ourselves better in making the 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:33.439 world better. I think that is a beautiful message and 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:36.840 a beautiful note to end on. Thank you all so 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:39.399 much for your music and your time today and for 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:41.440 all you do. Thank you so much. It's been such 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:44.520 a joy and a pleasure talking to you. Nice one. You, 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:56.200 thank you, thank you, thank you. We hope you enjoyed 0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.600 this episode of Inside the Studio, a production of I 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:02.399 Heart Radio. For more episodes of Inside the Studio or 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:05.280 other fantastic shows, check out the I Heart Radio app, 0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:08.120 Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast.