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Speaker 1: What's Up, Mets Fans? Big episode today, a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a mail bag for you. We're answering your questions

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Speaker 1: from Twitter. Make sure you're following us so you can

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Speaker 1: be involved in one of the upcoming ones, because I'm

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Speaker 1: sure there are the only other thing we have to

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Speaker 1: talk about is some random Mets moves. There's not that much,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna answer your guys questions. We're answering all

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Speaker 1: of them. Let's get to it. What is Up, Mets fans?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of the Mets Up Podcast.

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Speaker 1: As you heard from the intro, we are going through

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Speaker 1: a mail bag today because, let's be honest, James, there

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Speaker 1: just hasn't been a lot going on in Mets world

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Speaker 1: besides a couple forty man cuts, a couple random relievers

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Speaker 1: being picked up here and there, and I'm sure we'll

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Speaker 1: get to them throughout the episode. But it's a mail

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Speaker 1: bag episode and we haven't been able to really do

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Speaker 1: one of these properly in quite some time.

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Speaker 2: No questions from you, guys, Excited to answer them, Excited

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Speaker 2: to shout you guys out with everyone who engage with

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Speaker 2: us on Twitter, and shout out everyone who's been engaging

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Speaker 2: with us on Twitter anyway. Our Twitter's been bumping since

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Speaker 2: like since since the big change, since the transition, and

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Speaker 2: it's been great, honestly because it's something that it's something

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Speaker 2: I love to do. It's fun also just to make

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Speaker 2: funny posts, engage with you guys, like making memes about everything.

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Speaker 1: It's a great time.

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Speaker 2: So shout everybody engaging, Shout out everything that's been going

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Speaker 2: on last few weeks.

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Speaker 1: And let's get some questions. Yeah, let's get to it,

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Speaker 1: and we'll start off just right at the top from

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Speaker 1: our boy Jenny Metz, who asks biggest sleeper pitching prospect

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Speaker 1: more of a question for the pitching guru at James

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Speaker 1: Chiano a little bit offended that he doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: know my opinion as much. But James, the floor is yours.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you take that one first.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I mean in terms of this podcast,

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Speaker 2: like you think you're a little better hitting, but I

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Speaker 2: think I I offer a little bit more from the

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Speaker 2: pitching side. But Mets have a lot of great sleeper

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Speaker 2: prospects in the system. One of my favorites. He hasn't

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Speaker 2: pick last year. Came from University of Charlotte, the forty

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Speaker 2: I think he was like sixth, seventh, eighth round pick

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Speaker 2: around there. He had some crazy games in college, just

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Speaker 1: No, No, Old Dominion. That's where Justin Verlander and his

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Speaker 1: Nick Prado that went to Old Dominion. There's like a

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Speaker 2: But he also he's a power curve ball. It's very

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean when we spoke to Matt Eddie

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Speaker 2: He had top ten stuff plus in all of Division

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Speaker 2: one of my favorite sources for college baseball information, data, statistics,

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Speaker 1: It's just Yankee Yankees fans pretending like they didn't parade

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Speaker 1: Mainly on how Boston, Barrow, aj Ewing and Brandon Sprote So,

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Speaker 2: A lot about Sprot from Matthew Eddie again last week

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Speaker 2: And similarly, like Matt Eddie mentioned, with Scott, the Mets

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one thousand percent, that's probably the most We'll talk

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Speaker 2: pick it as a destination, but it's like it's a

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Speaker 2: good ballpark to see, and like it's just good. It's

435
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Speaker 2: good hearty Midwest people. I also like Seattle.

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Speaker 1: I think Seattle is a place that I've never been,

437
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Speaker 1: but I've only ever heard good things about. So I

438
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Speaker 1: definitely want to maybe try and get out to the

439
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Speaker 1: West coast for that one. In Colorado. I mean, well,

440
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Speaker 1: Colorado is not an American League, dull, but that would be

441
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Speaker 1: a great one as well. And I think the most

442
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Speaker 1: obvious choice always is the San Diego Padres. Anytime you

443
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Speaker 1: got a chance to go to San Diego and watch

444
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Speaker 1: some baseball. You should do that because you're not only

445
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Speaker 1: gonna see some good players, you're gonna have some incredible,

446
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Speaker 1: impeccable weather as well.

447
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Speaker 2: Also funny scheduling clerk quirk. You guys are gonna get

448
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Speaker 2: ready to hear my rants about the schedule as we

449
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Speaker 2: get can't wait the season, of course, but just a

450
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Speaker 2: big part of it. The Mets entire season is basically

451
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Speaker 2: a Milwaukee Brewer sandwich. This year we opened the season

452
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Speaker 2: at home home opening against the Brewers, and we end

453
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Speaker 2: the season Friday, Saturday Sunday in Milwaukee, So the whole

454
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Speaker 2: season is just about the Brewers. So I think that

455
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Speaker 2: could also be a cool road trip where. I don't

456
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Speaker 2: know next year's NFL schedule at all, but if the

457
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Speaker 2: Packers are home on Sunday, September twenty ninth, it's probably

458
00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,720
Speaker 2: a good excuse to get out to lambeau Field.

459
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Speaker 1: Is Green Bay close to Milwaukee, that's the next question.

460
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's in Wisconsin. It can't be that far.

461
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Speaker 1: I don't know. It was like three hours. Is that

462
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Speaker 1: too far for you? If it was that far, No,

463
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Speaker 1: I think three hours would be pushing the limit of it.

464
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Speaker 1: Though I'm hoping it'd be like an hour and a

465
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Speaker 1: half and I think it is, but I don't know.

466
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Speaker 1: I totally don't totally making it up. I mean, you're

467
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Speaker 1: the Midwest guy, so I thought maybe you had a

468
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Speaker 1: beat on Wisconsin. Apparently not.

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Speaker 2: One time it was an eight hour drive from Columbus

470
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Speaker 2: to Madison, which was way long, and I thought was

471
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Speaker 2: gonna basically Kenosha, right, Kenosha, Wisconson.

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Speaker 1: All right. Ethan Briggs with the next question for us,

473
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Speaker 1: can you talk about what you know about player development

474
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Speaker 1: improvements pitching lab, Eric Jaegers, We did a little bit

475
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Speaker 1: last episode, but essentially from what at least we know

476
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Speaker 1: or I know James can speak afterwards. Eric Aegers is

477
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Speaker 1: the man. He's got some special sauce coke in where

478
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Speaker 1: he just seems to be able to identify pitchers that

479
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Speaker 1: have the ability to get more out of what they've

480
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Speaker 1: shown thus far, like a guy you mentioned with Christian Scott,

481
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Speaker 1: like a guy that you even mentioned with Mike Vassel,

482
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Speaker 1: who was taken more as a safe pick as a

483
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Speaker 1: guy who is a good pitcher, didn't have really anything

484
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Speaker 1: plus plus, but now after last season was able to

485
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Speaker 1: show that he has some strikeout ability, he has some

486
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Speaker 1: good pitches, has the opportunity to maybe make the major

487
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Speaker 1: league roster at some point during the season. So it

488
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Speaker 1: seems like he's able to identify the pitchers that have

489
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Speaker 1: the ability to get more. And that's something that I

490
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Speaker 1: think is so incredibly important in what you've seen a

491
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Speaker 1: lot of top organizations do. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And something else I like about ye is that it

493
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Speaker 2: seems that we've gone from a results based on like

494
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Speaker 2: results based pop development model to a strength based development

495
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Speaker 2: model where it's like we we again.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Mets are drafting.

497
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Speaker 2: Or having guys in the minor leagues to worry about

498
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Speaker 2: era and whip and their wins. Like I think they're like,

499
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Speaker 2: let me, let me see which pitch properties we can

500
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Speaker 2: coax out of these players, and let's make sure these

501
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Speaker 2: are where they have to be, rather than like making

502
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Speaker 2: sure you have a two seven e R like Jaeger's

503
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Speaker 2: comes from Drive Line, who work closely with Kyle Body,

504
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Speaker 2: who started the Drive Line and ran the Reds player

505
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Speaker 2: development for many years. It's just he this is gonna

506
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Speaker 2: be what it is, is gonna be a lot of

507
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Speaker 2: a lot of I'm trying to think I'm to say

508
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Speaker 2: this even just I'm putting a lot of technical ability

509
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Speaker 2: into player development here, lots of machines, lots of lots

510
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Speaker 2: of sensors and things to trend to high speed hot cameras.

511
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Speaker 2: It's a lot of things like that, And I that's

512
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Speaker 2: as much as we know about it, because every single

513
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Speaker 2: team really wants to keep their player development under wraps

514
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Speaker 2: because they don't want other teams to know what they're doing,

515
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Speaker 2: because you don't want someone else to steal your methods

516
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Speaker 2: and your your little secret sauces Mark set so eloquently.

517
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Speaker 2: So I just know that the way that we're improving

518
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Speaker 2: pictures right now, and the way that we have a

519
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Speaker 2: lot of for lack of a better term, balls to

520
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Speaker 2: draft a pitcher and then say we're going to change

521
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Speaker 2: a role, We're going to change your arsenal, and the

522
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Speaker 2: fact that those things are happening quickly, especially with guys

523
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Speaker 2: like Christian Scott and Blade Teddwell. Christian Scott literally becoming

524
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Speaker 2: one of the best pitching prospects in the entire minor

525
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Speaker 2: leagues after being drafted just two years ago as a

526
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Speaker 2: relief pitcher. I think that's the kind of thing where

527
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Speaker 2: we could be like, Okay, like we have plans in

528
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Speaker 2: place and players are executing them. I think that itself

529
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Speaker 2: is a really good thing for this development machine we

530
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Speaker 2: are creating totally.

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Speaker 1: And on the hitting side, I mean, there's just been

532
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Speaker 1: a lot of Major leaguers that have been homegrown that

533
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Speaker 1: have come through the Mets in the last five ten years.

534
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Speaker 1: Like you look around the diamond, at almost every single position,

535
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Speaker 1: you have a guy that is relatively homegrown. So I

536
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Speaker 1: think on the hitting side, they've continued to do what

537
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Speaker 1: they've done well. They brought in that guy from the

538
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Speaker 1: Royals right last year that you were telling me about

539
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Speaker 1: that or was he from the Rangers? Where'd he come from?

540
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Speaker 2: I think the Royals guy's already gone for someone new, Honestly.

541
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Speaker 2: I think I think it was early a swap job.

542
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Speaker 2: Swap job was done.

543
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Speaker 1: Okay, he got upgraded, but hey, even so, like there's

544
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Speaker 1: just been a lot of guys on the offense aside

545
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Speaker 1: to coming up through the minors, So I think there's

546
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Speaker 1: definitely some good things going on there in terms of

547
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Speaker 1: player development. Next question, Big V, if each of you

548
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Speaker 1: can make a wild prediction for the upcoming season that

549
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Speaker 1: you believe could happen. What would it be, and he

550
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Speaker 1: says trade player performance overall season standings, maybe some sneaky

551
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Speaker 1: move the Mets make James wanna let you go first,

552
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 1: thanks so much, gonna let me go first?

553
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Speaker 2: So how kind of you?

554
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Speaker 1: You know that's that's the benefit of reading the questions. Yeah,

555
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Speaker 1: wild prediction the Mets make. I mean like one that

556
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Speaker 1: you had last year was like the dimebacks would be

557
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Speaker 1: pretty good. That was pretty good.

558
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think I'm trying to think of one,

559
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Speaker 2: like specific metsific that's okay, specific Mets crazy prediction. I

560
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Speaker 2: think hory Lope is gonna be really good, Leaver, I

561
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Speaker 2: think hory Lope is just gonna be nice. I just

562
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Speaker 2: think he's gonna be someone that sneaks up on everybody.

563
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Speaker 2: And you look up in JUNI You're like, oh, I

564
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Speaker 2: really trust Hoje Lopez as like a selectending guy. That's

565
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Speaker 2: my sneaky prediction.

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Speaker 1: My boll predictions. Brand Nim was gonna hit thirty home runs.

567
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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a thirty home run season

568
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Speaker 1: out of brand Nemo. Moving him to the corner maybe

569
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Speaker 1: a little bit more for four last year. How bold

570
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Speaker 1: is that? That's he has never done it. He set

571
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Speaker 1: a career highly last.

572
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Speaker 2: Year, like a one hundred and thirty five games. He's

573
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Speaker 2: on the thirty homer pace marks like, it's my bull

574
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Speaker 2: prediction is gonna happen if Brandon.

575
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Speaker 1: Nimmo hits thirty home runs. There's not one person in

576
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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball who was like I saw that coming.

577
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Speaker 1: Find find someone else who's saying it, and then tell

578
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Speaker 1: me it's not a wild prediction. Yeah, that's fine. Whatever,

579
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Speaker 1: great job Mey Lopez was a great reliever two years ago, James,

580
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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, next question from the OA, yeah you're

582
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Speaker 2: you're are right about that? So yeah, yess But thea

583
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Speaker 2: Sha says, pod uh another one specifically for me, but

584
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Speaker 2: I want marked answer too. But I think he also

585
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Speaker 2: answered the question in the question for us the best

586
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Speaker 2: pitch for any Mets pitcher, and he said so like

587
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Speaker 2: the DS slide or the Sanga football.

588
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Speaker 1: I think that's it. I think one and two right there.

589
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Speaker 2: Sangus football last year third best whiffray of any pitch

590
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Speaker 2: in baseball. I think, second best soft contact rate. It

591
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Speaker 2: gave up one home run the whole year, and it

592
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Speaker 2: was like in the last month of the season. It's disgusting.

593
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Speaker 2: There's no pitch like in baseball. It's the the significant

594
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Speaker 2: reason why he's as good as he was.

595
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it has nothing to do with Edwin dias a

596
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Speaker 1: slider being bad. It has everything to do with Sengu's

597
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Speaker 1: forkball being the arguably the most unique, unique pitch in

598
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Speaker 1: all of baseball right now. Uh, definitely the choice there.

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Speaker 1: Next up we got Yoshima, Professor Yoshima, big Mets fan,

600
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Speaker 1: He's always around. Who will be the biggest breakout in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four for fron Do one offensive and one

602
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Speaker 1: pitcher offensive.

603
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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say till it's wrong, say it at.

604
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Speaker 1: The same time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, brat Bay's gonna be bred. Baby Brebay is going

606
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Speaker 2: to have a good year. If he doesn't have a

607
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Speaker 2: good year, then you guys can all be like we

608
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Speaker 2: told you so. But the elite prospect who has good

609
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Speaker 2: bat to ball skills, great eggs of velocities and good

610
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Speaker 2: makeup that was a first round pick and dominate every

611
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Speaker 2: level of the miners. I think he's still gonna be

612
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Speaker 2: good even though he only has four hundred play appearances

613
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Speaker 2: in the major leagues. Of being bad, so that's my pick,

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Speaker 2: Rerett Baby, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Brett Baty Definitely on the offensive side. There's also, truthfully,

616
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Speaker 1: not many guys you can actually pick to breakout because

617
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Speaker 1: the Mets roster is full of a lot of veterans,

618
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Speaker 1: so there's not really much of a offensive breakout On

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Speaker 1: the pitching side. I know who you're gonna go with,

620
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Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go with someone else. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: with Jose Budo. I think Jose Buddo just cements himself

622
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Speaker 1: as like a starting pitcher in Major League baseball. Breakout

623
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Speaker 1: maybe is a little bit bold, because what is a

624
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Speaker 1: breakout for a guy who's probably gonna have like a

625
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Speaker 1: four IVR maybe on the year. But I think just

626
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Speaker 1: him becoming a real major leaguer and probably being a

627
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Speaker 1: part of this rotation for the next couple of years

628
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: feels like something that's gonna happen. Damn.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say bood though, so I'll pull

630
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Speaker 2: back on that and just say, my my guy, Christian Scott,

631
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Speaker 2: that's what I thought you were going.

632
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you I'll do.

633
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Speaker 2: I think Chris Scouts can come to the major League

634
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Speaker 2: this year and really shock people that he's as ready

635
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Speaker 2: as he is.

636
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Speaker 1: I still don't know.

637
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Speaker 2: If he's gonna come up as traditional starter, just because

638
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 2: the Brewers took a while from the ease guys into

639
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Speaker 2: starting when they came up Peralta Burns Woodriff, even Aaron

640
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Speaker 2: Ashby back Stills, he's easing his way into starting three

641
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 2: years later. But Christian Scout's awesome. He's the He's so good.

642
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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm all over him right now.

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Speaker 1: All right?

644
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 2: The next question JSF Nation. If you had to pick

645
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Speaker 2: one pitcher and one position player slash DH for the

646
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Speaker 2: Mets to sign, who would it be?

647
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Speaker 1: Mark? Okay, so position player is gonna be who haees

648
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Speaker 1: sel aaire. I think here's a philosophical question. Is he

649
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Speaker 1: a position player? He doesn't play position? He said DH

650
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Speaker 1: as well. Yes, d H was part of it. That's

651
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Speaker 1: why I snuck him in there. It's definitely hoh haesel air.

652
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: He is probably one of the best bats available. I

653
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: can't think of the other ones right now off the

654
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: top of my head, but I'm gonna go with hoor

655
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: hisesel lair uh. He's just really good, and I think

656
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: he would bring just that extra needed power that the

657
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: Mets could use. Outside of Pete A. Lonzo and Francisco

658
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: indoor right now. And then in terms of the pitching side,

659
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: who who am I gonna want on the pitching side here?

660
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: That's not completely boring?

661
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh I have I have two answers, one one pint,

662
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 2: one like fake one one real one fake one's just

663
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: Blake Snell. Like Blake Snell's just a good picture. I

664
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: think I don't know what's gonnappen to him. I don't

665
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 2: know where he's gonna sign January sixteenth. There is even

666
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: does not even half a rumor we've even got on

667
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: it with over the weekend, just pretending that the Mets

668
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 2: that she had signed blakesn now got a nice tweets

669
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: of nice engagement. But all those rumors seem totally fake.

670
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: I don't know who's gonna sign him, I don't know when,

671
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: I don't know where. I don't even know why. I

672
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: don't even know who's gonna ask. But bizarre. And then

673
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: another picture of Ryan Stanek. Ryan Stanik's awesome. Stuff's crazy.

674
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: He throws one hundred with a splither and a slyther. Yeah,

675
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 2: just has to be the guy.

676
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: I know what picture I want? I want Brandon Woodruff.

677
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: He's still available, and I'd love to sign him to

678
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: a two year deal where you completely pay me to

679
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: be hurt for a year and then the next season

680
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: he's good. So I'm gonna go Brandon Woodro if that's

681
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: the one I'm interested in right now. Bring back the

682
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: Stearns connection there. There's not a lot of great pitching

683
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: left to be honest, No, I mean it's not a lot.

684
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: It's a lot of anything left besides sol Air, Snell

685
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: and Bellingers. Butise our free agency period just super super weird.

686
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: Another one from Ethan Briggs doubling up on us. You

687
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: guys can answer this many times you want to going

688
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 2: forward and ever we mail bag. If you have seven questions,

689
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: just type all seven in We love it, we don't care,

690
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: and if we will probably read them with their good questions.

691
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: How would you judge Billy Eppli's tenure? How much was

692
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: he actually in charge? Which is allic is way of

693
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: the question. That's good credit to us to think we

694
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: would actually know, because we don't. And then what on

695
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: earth happened with the sketchy fire and quit thing? Also

696
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: really nice of you to think that we know the

697
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: answer to that question too.

698
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

699
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: I think Billy Uplis ten year is like one of

700
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: if you you probably would judge it differently based on

701
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: your expectations of the guy who architected the Anam Angels,

702
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: where it's like there were a lot of good things

703
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: that happened, also a lot of things that were like hmm,

704
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: and then the end of it was like ugh. But

705
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 2: then like all the prospects we got last year wound

706
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: up being looking like pretty good. So I'll give him

707
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: a solid B minus. And then I think it was

708
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: also as good as I possibly could have expected that

709
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: he got hired B minus.

710
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely had way lower expectations for him coming in.

711
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: I genuinely thought he was a stupid person, Like what

712
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: he did with the Angels was concerning, and you're like, oh,

713
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 1: this we hired this guy, like this is not going

714
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: to be good. He might have made those big moves,

715
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: like you said, the prospect thing at the end, I

716
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: think was really savvy and that probably saved him a

717
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: little bit in what was a disastrous twenty twenty three season.

718
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: But overall, I mean, he probably is going to get

719
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: a worse rep than he actually deserved for his time

720
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: with the Mets, and I don't know the firing at

721
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: the end, there's a new president of Baseball Operations, Like

722
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, whatever was going on

723
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: with that, that stuff that was going on in the

724
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: news with him about if he was what was it

725
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: interfering or it was.

726
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: Some service time manipulation or something I don't whatever, allegedly

727
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: we're not yet not on the record.

728
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: Seemed like a great reason for him to just walk

729
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: away from an organization that he's no longer in charge of.

730
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: So I think that's really what ended up happening.

731
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes in life you have to look at timing

732
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: and like realize context and be like, okay, whatever, not

733
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: can think about this anymore.

734
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: No, Billy Upper will be fine. He's gonna get another

735
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: job in baseball somewhere for sure. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

736
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Speaker 1: Young MB underscore two underscore. That's an interesting user, Dame.

737
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: I gotta say, favorite Mets team that you grew up with.

738
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm assuming could also answer which Mets team do you

739
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: think was the best in the last twenty four years? So,

740
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I think those.

741
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: Are the same answer. I think the best team and

742
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: my favorite team was two thousand and six. Yeah, It's

743
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: also funny to think about because like as fucked up

744
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: Mets fans don't want to hear it. But like, I

745
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: think the two thousand and seven team was probably better

746
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: than twenty six team. Yeah, just because they had Johan

747
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: Sentan on it. And I think that is incredibly relevant.

748
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: A team that probably could have gone all the way

749
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: just they're really good. I think I put them against

750
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: every other team. We've seen mess teams in our lives.

751
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty two team, while it was great, I

752
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: think by the end they show they have a lot

753
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: of cracks on their armor.

754
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen teen team objectively sucked. It's bad. Every day

755
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: I wake up and like, how the team go to

756
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: the World Series? Kind of ridiculous?

757
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: Look back to the ROSTERI like, the guys sucked, Like

758
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: why are they in the World Series? But we're talking

759
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: about the other day. The Mets in that World Series

760
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 2: went to there. Like people always preach like this new

761
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: Mets up the middle defense, Like that's as strong as

762
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: you want to be is you want to be anywhere

763
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: in the field. Mets had a catcher that couldn't throw,

764
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: a short stop that couldn't move, a second base with

765
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: no hands and a center fielder who was not a

766
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: center fielder, and you want to assessment this and all

767
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: of those things together did cost them the World Series

768
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: in totality, but also somehow got them there. So I

769
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: don't know, but I think by far the best Mets

770
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: team in our lives were six and seven.

771
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I mean, technically two thousand I think would

772
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: be up there too, but six o seven I think

773
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: was a better run than that two thousand team necessarily.

774
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: The two thousand team also was like it was a

775
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: really good team, but it was also like not anywhere

776
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: close to a lot of the other teams playing baseball

777
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: in that era. Correct, But that was also the kind of.

778
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: Thing where the Mets like chipped away and chipped away

779
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: and chipped away in ninety eight ninety nine, and like

780
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 2: that was just a veteran roster with experience and know

781
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: how Bobby Valentine could manager just like to get over

782
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: the hump and get to the World Series rather than

783
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: like we're gonna walk in here and take a World Series.

784
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Campton had a career season that got

785
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: him paid big time. Like, there was a lot of

786
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: things that went right for that team that year, Bbbi Jones. Yeah,

787
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: Bobby Jones. Bobby Jones. My first ever Mets game that

788
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: I went through. Bobby Jones made the start, he got

789
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: shelled by the Braves, absolutely destroyed, which makes a lot

790
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: of sense. All right, Bella, I think one of our

791
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: few female listeners and female fans of the podcast will

792
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: take it. That's fine. You guys traveled around the ballpark

793
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: a lot last year. Where are the best seats in

794
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: city field? And why what food is near? There? Are

795
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: the seats just good themselves? Yeah, we've spent a lot

796
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: of time in the last couple of seasons. I mean,

797
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: the best seat is obviously always going to be like

798
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: behind home plate. But I think when you're asking that question,

799
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: it's always about like value and what's like a really

800
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: just good place to be. I really think those three

801
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: hundreds are like some of the better seats where you're

802
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: above like all the chaos and all the noise. You

803
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: get the access to the piazza club, which is nice,

804
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: especially like if you just like want some ac on

805
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: a hot day, or you want to use like a

806
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: genuinely clean bathroom, that isn't the one that's like for

807
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: everyone around. A lot of good food options around there

808
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: really good view, like there's nothing ever blocking you whatsoever,

809
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: and if there is rain, you are covered. So I'm

810
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: just gonna go the three hundreds behind home plate from

811
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: like third base to first base. Yeah, I'm with you

812
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: on there.

813
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: And just to give a different answer, the area and

814
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: right field I think has the best combination of accessible bathroom,

815
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: many food options, and like also just being a value.

816
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: It's not like the best view, but like when you

817
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: get once you go underneath the overhang, it's not that

818
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: good of a view anymore. But when you're on the

819
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: line still like where we sit every single year for

820
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: Ernie's birthday, that's a good view of everything. And again

821
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: right behind you you have the World's fair Market where

822
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: you have Brita bowls and sushi and all gluten free stuff.

823
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: And you have the rice balls over there with aren't

824
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: he Ross Garantini Bros. You have you have the lops

825
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: roll right there, a lot of people love and you

826
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: right there. You also have Sweet Chick, which is a

827
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: good addition to the ballpark. So you have a lot

828
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: of stuff right there. There's multiple places to get beer

829
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: there are there is a bathroom right there, male and

830
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: female you're close to the bridge, do all that fun

831
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: stuff and get the center field. You want to take

832
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: a break over there. I like being over there. We

833
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in that corner last year. Yeah,

834
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: specifically in the Aeron Cheny Bros.

835
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Speaker 1: Corner. We a lot at that table, as we know.

836
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: Shout out Aaron Cheney Bros. Table family as well.

837
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: Shout out to some of you guys because we've answered

838
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: kind of your questions already. Brandon Lux who talks a lot,

839
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: favorite Mets prospect which if we talked about prospects LA

840
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: last week's changed up a little bit. Jack Bennett pitching development.

841
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: We talked a lot about that already. Dommier, you're the guy,

842
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: but we talked about Christian Scat already too, So keep

843
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,239
Speaker 2: moving on. There's a fun one for Mark. I want

844
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: to know hear this one bell at Bell CT six

845
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Speaker 2: one three.

846
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: Nice Ryan.

847
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: I love Francisco Alvarez, but the comparisons between him and

848
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: Gary Sangees are terrifying. Reassure fans. Is there anything that

849
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: supports that Alvarez can be a better hitter, especially obp wise,

850
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: than Sanchez was? Is what kind of progression do you

851
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: realistically expect from him.

852
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: Mark, don't make me say it, because I know they're

853
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: shockingly similar, like concerningly similar. Yeah, I'm just gonna say

854
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: because he's got more dog than Gary. I feel like,

855
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: if there's anything that Gary Sanchez did lack, ever, it

856
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: seemed like he just kind of was good at baseball

857
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: and didn't maybe work to improve when things got tough.

858
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: It seems like Alvarez is someone who is not content

859
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: with being as good as he is right now. We

860
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: saw how much he improved defensively. We saw how hard

861
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: he was working with Glenn Sherlock. We know how much

862
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: the pitchers loved throwing to him. Exchers or in Verlander

863
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: spoke just amazingly about throwing to Francisco Alvarez, which has

864
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: got to be so awesome for a twenty one year

865
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: old to hear. It seems to me that maybe the

866
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: difference between the two, because there are so many similarities,

867
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: could be the fact that I think Alvarez will not

868
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: allow himself to get worse. I think he's a guy

869
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: who's just addicted to getting better. Yeah, and something else

870
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: about Sanchez the years he really started coming on, he

871
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: was significantly older, and Alvarez already was as a player. Sanchez,

872
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: the first time he got like a couple of coffee

873
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: in the Major League twenty sixteen, where he went crazy,

874
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: he was already twenty three and twenty four the by

875
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: far best year of his career. He was twenty four

876
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: years old twenty seventeen. So that kind of development, that

877
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: kind of progression. The fact that Alvarez has done it

878
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: younger than Sanchez is significant. The fact that and again

879
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: this is kind of a cop out, but the fact

880
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: that Alvarez was just always considered a bit of a

881
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: better prospect, always had a little bit better physical tools,

882
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: always had a little better standings with the scouts, and

883
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: echo Mark said, the fact that, again he is doing

884
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: leadership things where he's going down to the dr and

885
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: handing out diploma's like he's evolved with everything. It seems

886
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: like tattooed on his neck.

887
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's it's it's a weird answer, I mean

888
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: because also like it's not impossible. I'm not gonna let

889
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: you guys say it's impossible. Like Alvarez has a lot

890
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: of flaws in his game offensively, like he takes hacks,

891
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: like he's opps might shall suffer, like He's now probably

892
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: never gonna hit for high average unless something crazy happens

893
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: like garyx Andres was doing those first few years when

894
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: he was hitting everything. Sanchez then it was a different game.

895
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: It was almost it was eight years ago now, but

896
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: he was strecking out even less than Alvarez was last

897
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 2: year as first year in the pros. Again, different age,

898
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: different contexts, different team, different ballpark, different situation, but it's

899
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: not impossible. Even a guy like cal Rawley, like it

900
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: took him like four years of playing in the major

901
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: leagues to kind of hit his next stage like Jonah time. Yeah,

902
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: catchers developed slowly, like like I don't even catchers like

903
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: twenty six, twenty seven to twenty eight is kind of

904
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: when you come into your own. The fact that we

905
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: have this signal on Alva as a twenty one year old,

906
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: which we said at nauseum last year, is important just

907
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 2: for that reason. The fact that he's already doing things

908
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: that twenty one that usually guys don't do to their

909
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: twenty four, twenty five to twenty six. Sancho's doing a

910
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: twenty three twenty four. That's why people thought he was elite.

911
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: Then it just stopped. You can always just stop. There's

912
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: so many factors on the field off the field that

913
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: contribute to player's development, but I can't tell you it's impossible.

914
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: And I'm worried about the OBP long term, but I

915
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: still think he just has so many things off And

916
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: Maddie talked about this too, like he has a nature

917
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: to him that like other baseball players don't have.

918
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: I think that's really relevant. I mean, he's a baseball

919
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: rat in the good sense, because I know we have

920
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: the bad rats like Jose Alvarado and Ender intr Da,

921
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: But he's a baseball rat in the sense. It just

922
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: seems like if he's not playing baseball or working out,

923
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: he's sleeping, Like he doesn't really do anything else besides that.

924
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: And to be fair, unfair to Gary Sanchez didn't keep

925
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: close tabs on him like I do with Francisco Alvarez now,

926
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: but it just does they don't feel the same makeup wise, playwise.

927
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: Totally see the similarities though, and that could scare some people.

928
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: Another player, another young guy here, questioned from all Hale

929
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: David Sterns love that name on Twitter. By the way,

930
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: how long do the Mets give Ventos to prove himself

931
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: with the bat this season before they make it to

932
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: definitive yes or no decision with his future with the club.

933
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: My take is that Mark Fiento's does not open the

934
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: team with the major league club. I think he starts

935
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: the year in Triple A and I think they're hoping

936
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: for a hot start and to trade him. I think

937
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: that they almost have plans of never seeing him play

938
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: for the Mets again.

939
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is a situation of our hive

940
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: mind working here. Because I was about to give the

941
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: ball take. I don't even think he's on the Mets

942
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: roster opening day. He to me smells like one of

943
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: those like end of spring training trades where you two

944
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: teams just trade guys who kind of need a fresh

945
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: star to different fit like this is and this is

946
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 2: gonna sound funny, but because I still think Mark Vento's

947
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: has significant potential with the bad He's still projected to

948
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: be a Bellean league garbage hit there. But the power

949
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: is legit, Yeah, totally legit. And he's just this is

950
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: the kind of guy. This is gonna be funny, This

951
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 2: might be a little meme, but he's the exact kind

952
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: of guy that Mets used to trade four where it's

953
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: like there's no obvious fit, but you have a little

954
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: bit of potential. You can't play a position. You're a

955
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: little bit one dimensional, and that's kind of it where

956
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: that's just not the way David Cervins built his baseball

957
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: teams in the past, and there's enough guys around this

958
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: Mets roster that do something similar without having any kind

959
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 2: of value in the field, to where it's like, if

960
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: there's something that can be done to make this team

961
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: better and it's not Mark Vanzo's, I think I could

962
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 2: see it happening.

963
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's the big thing too, is

964
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: there really is no incentive to trade him right now.

965
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: There's no reason to have to trade him. It's just

966
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: that if they can move him to make this team

967
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: better right now or in the near future, it might

968
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: just have more value than Mark Vento's could possibly ever

969
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: have with this New York Mets team.

970
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: And by them line, it's like weird roster manipulationship. But yeah,

971
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: sometimes like build a bench in your mind because you

972
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 2: have to think about what these teams are thinking about

973
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: in a game by game basis. He's just a right

974
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: handed hither without a position, so like you lose platoon value.

975
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: You don't have defensive.

976
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 2: Value, like you have to hit the piss out of

977
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 2: the ball to have some real value, like he has

978
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: to coach the spring training and H's six one runs

979
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 2: probably to make the team, just because not that he's

980
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: not major league ready himself, but more like the fact

981
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 2: that his strengths and weaknesses as a baseball player don't

982
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: really benefit this roster.

983
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: So much the way it's constructed. No, he's replaceable, right now,

984
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: that's kind of he has to make himself unreplaceable. Is

985
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: that the right word unreplaceable place irreplaceable is what I

986
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: was trying to say, Beyonce. Yeah, I should have got

987
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: that one right. But yeah, I think we're probably harsh

988
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: on Vento's and I know that a lot of people

989
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of high hopes for him. I was

990
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: disappointed in what I did see because it's just there

991
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: was so much hype with every single person tweet on

992
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: how many triple A home runs he hit last year,

993
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: but just goes to show you it also doesn't really

994
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: matter at all. No, no, that I'll keep moving on here.

995
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: Some more questions, This one from the Brunson Burner, which

996
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: is another good name who had The best one game

997
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: performance for I met last year. Man, there was that

998
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: game Francisco Lindor had in September. Maybe it was a

999
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: double Heather combined. I think he had like two homers,

1000
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: a double, like seven RBIs. I remember it basically won

1001
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: me a fantasy championships. That's why it's it's fresh in

1002
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: my mind.

1003
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, what about Uh didn't Sango go eight

1004
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: against Rockies? Yeah?

1005
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: The Rockies made strikeouts or something.

1006
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: I will say, like, I really tried to black out

1007
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: last year from my memory because it was just a lot,

1008
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: so so miserable, and I know we talked about like

1009
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: every single game, but it was not what we wanted

1010
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: to say. So I don't even really remember what my

1011
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: thoughts were because I just know that it wasn't right.

1012
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: The best the young game performance for a met was

1013
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 2: probably the Dj Stewart day that deliberally the day him

1014
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: and he get two home runs and made the game

1015
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: saving catch and right field.

1016
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: I think that was the one, So we're gonna Alva's

1017
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: home run two in Arizona was a big game. He

1018
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: had a couple of home runs in Cincinnati as well.

1019
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: Pete had the game winning home run against the Rays,

1020
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: right was against the Rays. That was fun times. That

1021
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: was a big one. Man, when we thought we were

1022
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: back in the playoff race, that that hurts.

1023
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he said let's go back. Some Bucks said,

1024
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: we don't talk like that in this team.

1025
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: So well he didn't. He didn't just say that. He

1026
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: went to Michael Kay and cried to him because you know,

1027
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: Buck Show, Walter's a Yankee at heart, so got to

1028
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: make sure that he kisses the shoes of Michael k

1029
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: one of the most overrated announcers in all sports.

1030
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on here a couple more heres.

1031
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: We're going long now, we're just talking about nonsense. But

1032
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: uh yeah, Nick, Nick, our friend Nick Khal what ballpark

1033
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: for FOD you considered to be on MAF he saw

1034
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: someone eating it.

1035
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we always talked with Vito and John about

1036
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: the people who eat the ballpark nachos out of the

1037
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: helmet and then they clean out the helmet inside the

1038
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: bathroom and then they wear it on their head afterwards.

1039
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: That's like the pure sign of ani mal And honestly,

1040
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: if you do that, I'm sorry that we're calling you

1041
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: that right now, but you need to know that's not Okay.

1042
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the only other thing in the

1043
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: ballpark that's like, oh, there's one other thing actually, I

1044
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: think in the ballpark that's any mal and that's that's

1045
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: the burger that's covered in cheese.

1046
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what. That thing's insane.

1047
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: If you if you can, if your body and your

1048
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: digest system can handle that, like shout out to you, kudos,

1049
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: like you got a witch chipper in there, Like I

1050
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: respect you a lot. But if I see someone eating that,

1051
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: just they' cheese on the risks.

1052
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm out. The cheese covered burger is something that again

1053
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: like wasn't even on my mind because there's just never

1054
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: a world or I can eat that. But I'll tell

1055
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: you what, if I could eat cheese, i'd get it

1056
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: one time at one time, like for shits. But I

1057
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: think that's kind of it. Well, yeah, you'd get the

1058
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: shits for sure. Double on tantra there.

1059
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: Accidentally, let's see what other stuff question. I mean maybe

1060
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 2: this last one, just the last prospect thing. A lot

1061
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: of other ones are either not met related, like one

1062
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: guy was like Brollie Morris, like I know is the

1063
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: Mets podcast, but you guys been inside to the Red

1064
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: Sox offseason. Okay, this is okay question. I thin grin answer.

1065
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: I think anyone cares about that. Who's listening to the show,

1066
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: Uh Noah O'Neill. If Marte is himself again, what do

1067
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: you see as a timeline for the call up of.

1068
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: Drew Gilbert or Jet Williams love the Pop Boys.

1069
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: I think that it would be super crazy if Jet

1070
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: Williams got to the major leagues this year.

1071
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1072
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: I think he would have to force the Mets hand

1073
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: in a way that was like like something like untenable

1074
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: where he's in triple A and he has a one

1075
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: seventy WRC plus and nothing is landing in centerfield. But

1076
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: Gilbert I think is realistic because David Stern said last

1077
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: week on the Show with John A. M and Joel

1078
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: Sherman some legend right there that Gilbert's gonna start the

1079
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: year in triple A. So Gilbert starting hear in triple

1080
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: A means that he's probably just next up, like he

1081
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: is the depth outfielder.

1082
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: So if they're I think.

1083
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: If there's a serious injury to someone who is really

1084
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: good in the outfield, his name, I'm not going to

1085
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: say because I don't want him ever get hurt again.

1086
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: I think then you're like, like, if there's like a

1087
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: six week injury for one of the guys who probably

1088
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: is gonna hit lead off for the team, I think

1089
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: that's when.

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00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: Drew Gilbert gets the call.

1091
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 2: Otherwise I think there would have to be again significant

1092
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: injury or someone will have to be really bad. And

1093
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: I think the like bringing in a guy like Tyrone

1094
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: Taylor kind of gives you that cushion too, of like

1095
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: if there's a little bit here and there, if there's

1096
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: a Martee injury, Like if Drew Gilbert starts off slow,

1097
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: there's no pressure for him to have to come up

1098
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: right now, because I think that seems like there shouldn't be. Yeah,

1099
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: I think that's what the Mets are really trying to prioritize.

1100
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: It seems like with all their prospects right now is

1101
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: there's just we don't want any pressure on these guys

1102
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: when they come up. Because we saw Brett Baty field

1103
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: the pressure. It definitely affected his play. I think Ryni

1104
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: Maurisio even felt the pressure a little bit towards the

1105
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: end of last year because if you look at his numbers,

1106
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: guys Roan Mariso did not play well last year, he

1107
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: just did like some fun things, but relatively speaking, he

1108
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: did struggle, which makes sense, like his game has holes

1109
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 2: as well. But I think from what we see with

1110
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 2: David Searns and how he handled prospects in Milwaukee, he

1111
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: really wants to take his time and make sure these

1112
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: guys are ready before bringing them up to the majors,

1113
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: and then if they show they're capable, go ahead and

1114
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: do what you do best. But like even a Freylk

1115
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: who was so ready for such a long time, took

1116
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: a minute to get called up in Milwaukee and then

1117
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 2: even took a minute to get into like the middle

1118
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: top of the lineup, because they just want to ease

1119
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: these guys in, and that's something I think that gets

1120
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 2: lost some times with prospects and young players, because we've

1121
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 2: seen Wan Soto and Ronald Akunya and Juli Rodriguez come

1122
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: up and they're the best players in baseball and totally,

1123
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: and I think the Mets did a lot this offseason

1124
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: to mitigate that, just because we haven't had triple a

1125
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: depth like since we became adults by signing guys like

1126
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: Trace Thompson and Taylor cole A. So just like guys

1127
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 2: who can be competent, and they're in triple A, so

1128
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: if you need them, you could dust them off and

1129
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: bring them up non roster invites, so they can I

1130
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: think Trace Thompson doesn't have an option, but if he

1131
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: starts the year in Triple A, can be there. If

1132
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: you call him up, you can't set him down like

1133
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 2: one of those things. But again, it's just like if

1134
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: someone stubs their toe, they could call up one of them.

1135
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: But if somebody breaks their wrist, that's when you might

1136
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: call out Drew Gilbert if he's playing well.

1137
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: So everything's contingent a lot of stuff.

1138
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: But first of all, of course Drew Gilbert has to

1139
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: play well and then something has to happen. But I

1140
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: would be surprised if he had zero major league playing

1141
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: appearances this year.

1142
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: Last one. This's gonna be the last question we read

1143
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: out Gerson Etraveria. He's a good dude, friend of the pod.

1144
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: This is just a topic for debate. Everyone says we're

1145
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: on the cusp of a wildcard team. I think we're

1146
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: a little bit better than a wildcard and I bet

1147
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: we have a surprise season. I think we are on

1148
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: the cusp of a wildcard team. I think We're a

1149
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: team that will be competing for the Wildcard and knowing

1150
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: that eighty three wins eighty four is gonna get you

1151
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: that last wildcard spot. The Mets are totally in that

1152
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: realm with possibility of doing that and even out performing that.

1153
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: I think right now, there's just a lot of things

1154
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: that are gonna have to happen in order for the

1155
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: Mets to outperform that expectation. Yes and no.

1156
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: Right now, Zips Fangress project System has the Mets projector

1157
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: eighty four to eighty five wins, which is right there

1158
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: with the Phillies, which I think would be surprising for

1159
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: a lot of Mets fans to hear, but also just

1160
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: goes to show, like the fact this team does have

1161
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: very legitimate star power. Still, they have a better one

1162
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: to two punch like one two to three lineup than

1163
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: most other teams in the National League, especially the ones

1164
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: they're competing with the wildcard. Take out the Braves, the Phillies,

1165
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: and the Dodgers. Like you look at the Mets one

1166
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: two three in their lineup, You're like, oh, okay, this

1167
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: is good. It's just really this whole thing is come

1168
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: down to if the Mets pitching development has created depth

1169
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 2: or not that's gonna determine if the Mets have eighty

1170
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: five wins, eighty seven wins, or seventy four wins seventy

1171
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: one wins. And I think we have a range of

1172
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: all in that, Like, I think that this season is

1173
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 2: fun for those reasons, like anything can kind of happen

1174
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: this year, and I think we're gonna learn a lot

1175
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: about what's going on underlying on the organization, for better

1176
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: or worse, And I think that is kind of where

1177
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: this is. I know the COVID projection is gonna come

1178
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: out soon. I know Vegas is coming out with the

1179
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: Total soon next couple weeks, which is gonna be really fun.

1180
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: We're definitely gonna talk a lot of gambling stuff with

1181
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: you guys in this podcast this year because that's something

1182
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: weren't able to do before, and we're excited to break

1183
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: down futures and talk about stuff like that little in

1184
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: game shit. But I think that again, the Mets range

1185
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: of outcomes this year, like truthfully, seventy to ninety in

1186
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: my head for wins, and it just really depends on

1187
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: guys like weirdly, like Luis e. Varino, Jose Budo, David Peterson,

1188
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: Christian Scott, like Jorge Lopez, like not really names that

1189
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: you ever expect, like the season to hinge on, but

1190
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: those are kind of the guys that does hinge on.

1191
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,479
Speaker 1: No, one hundred percent. I think that was a great

1192
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: way to bring back the mailbag a little bit here

1193
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: for the Mets up Podcast. A lot of good questions

1194
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: for you guys. Really appreciate it. Remember to follow us

1195
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: on our social media at mets up on Everything, Twitter,

1196
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: TikTok and Instagram. We do have some housekeeping things to

1197
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: go over. I just wanted to make sure that you know,

1198
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: we get the social media plug while people are still listening.

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00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: H What else we got here, James, We got showed

1200
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: team Monaga signed. We saw that contract that kind of

1201
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: sucked to see.

1202
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, fuck, I would love to give

1203
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: him twelve million a year people were talking about over

1204
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: twenty And I hope he's listened to this because I

1205
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: gave gave our guy Marino some shit because he has

1206
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: one hundred mil hundred miles. We've told you that one guy,

1207
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: but I still love Mike. Wanted to have him on soon.

1208
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: That sucks. He also seemed like to really want to

1209
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: go to Chicago. Seemed like that was kind of his intention.

1210
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: He was just waiting because when you were an international

1211
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: free Asian, you have your posting period. You're just waiting

1212
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: until the last second. And I guess just pushing all

1213
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: these rumors out there, hoping somebody like threw too much

1214
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: money at him. But he's got he's he's so interesting.

1215
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: And now the fact that he's making again like twelve mil,

1216
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 2: like fifteen mil, kind of like the Sanga contract, rather

1217
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: than twenty mil like people were talking about.

1218
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: It makes him much more fun.

1219
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: To evaluate because now he's being evaluated like as a

1220
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 2: fringe star. They're like Sango was last year. So a

1221
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: lot of cool stuff there because from the forty man

1222
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 2: to make room.

1223
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: For please make room four, I don't even remember. I

1224
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: don't remember Sena Cooper Hummel.

1225
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: We just traded wef we cut them and trade them

1226
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 2: out to Rakash considerations. Cassio might have been Manaya and

1227
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: Cooper Hummel might have been my guy Max Kranick, who

1228
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: uh the Mets picked.

1229
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: Up the other day. Oh yeah, I think that would

1230
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: make it.

1231
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: Cranic's fun pirates us him in like a thirty forty

1232
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: pitch roll like a couple of years ago and he

1233
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: was like nice doing it before he got surgery and

1234
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 2: he grew up in Mets fans. We love having people

1235
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: love love the Mets on the team. And same with

1236
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: Mark boy at Jaxel Rios throws throws ninety seven with

1237
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: a good slide there, and pitch was part of the

1238
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 2: A's organization, exactly what we want to bring in.

1239
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: Ooh, I don't like that last little tidbit of part

1240
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: of the ax organist.

1241
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: We want that because then if you're with the A's

1242
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: like you've never been coach, You've never been developed, nothing's

1243
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: ever happened.

1244
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: We talked about this a few weeks ago.

1245
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: There's more cream on top where if you came from

1246
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: the Rays, the Astros, the Guardians, you have already been

1247
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 2: max out and you you were as good as you

1248
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: could ever be. But now we got we got rot,

1249
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 2: We got rot, we got raw talent here ninety seven

1250
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: with some juice.

1251
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: Something about that am Yaxel that I really just love.

1252
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: It's it's an electric name. Baseball Perspectives dropped their top

1253
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: is this a top one oh one? Am I to

1254
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: top one O one top one A one jet Williams

1255
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 1: comes in as the Mets top prospect at number twenty three,

1256
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: which is pretty sick. That's kind of awesome to have

1257
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: a top twenty five prospect. Drew Gilbert at number twenty nine,

1258
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: Ryan Clifford at seventy six, Luis Anhlakunya at seventy seven,

1259
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: and Christian Scott in eighty eight. Five guys on the

1260
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: top one hundred and one for the Mets solid farm system.

1261
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: We know that they have a lot more depth than

1262
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: they have in the past, and to have a guy

1263
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: that we traded for Justin Verlander. Two of those guys

1264
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: are in the top seventy five. Basically pretty sick.

1265
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again mentioned it before, but really cool that

1266
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: they recognized like Scott's pitch properties even though he was

1267
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: statistically I've tweeted Monday from Mets up like probably the

1268
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: best bitch in the Minor League last year's strike up

1269
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: the highest strike on min of walk rate like second

1270
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: high as second lowest FIP like eleventh lowest era just

1271
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 2: despicably discussing the third lowest walk grate. They also, again

1272
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: they give a lot of credit to pitch property. Jared

1273
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: Sidler and Jeffrey Passernado. I think Jared's definitely a Mets fan. Jeffrey,

1274
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he has or not, but I

1275
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 2: think they're both Jersey East Coasters. They're theyre always gonna

1276
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: ruthless because the're Mets fans at heart, and they give

1277
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: a lot of credit to pitch design and the fact

1278
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: that they put Scott here where it's it's it's remarkable

1279
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: and I think it goes to show how good the

1280
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: prospect he really is.

1281
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: Nice in terms of the major league team arbitration hap

1282
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,479
Speaker 1: or arbitration negotiations were going on. Agree with everybody except

1283
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: my boy Philly b Phil Bickford, which he's gonna be

1284
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: a hot name on this podcast for no reason. Arbitration's

1285
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: so crazy that that even exists. Still, like this is

1286
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: how we do contracts with players. It doesn't make any sense.

1287
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: It's nuts.

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Speaker 2: Like for people who don't know, like they like they're

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Speaker 2: exchange figures and have to agree in a contract. But

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Speaker 2: if not, they literally go into a courtroom with a

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Speaker 2: private arbiter and they will argue. The teams will argue

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Speaker 2: that their players are worth less money. The Tigers are

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00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: going to arbitration for Casey Mice former number one overall

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Speaker 2: pick over twenty five thousand dollars a major League Baseball organization.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna spend that much on ice cubes in April,

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Speaker 2: Like it's not even funny. The fact that their teams

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Speaker 2: do this shit and it's ruthless. Like again, love to

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Speaker 2: see players do it because you never want to see

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Speaker 2: guys go to arb It really hurt Corman Burns last year,

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Speaker 2: fractures relationship the organization. Delan Betants is a long time

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Speaker 2: ago with the Yankees. I love it, like, yeah, Mookie Bets.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to do content like arbitration cases that like

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Speaker 2: hurt teams recently. And also just really nice to see

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Speaker 2: Pete and the Mets like sign a did line together.

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Speaker 2: It's not the real contract, but nice to see it

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Speaker 2: go through.

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Speaker 1: I do appreciate all the people on Twitter who like

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Speaker 1: freak out. They're like, oh my god, like the Mets

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Speaker 1: Sunday contract and Pete Ang's like, no, this was always

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Speaker 1: going to happen, Like you didn't know what leverage. You

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Speaker 1: cannot play if he doesn't want to play, he can't

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Speaker 1: play for anybody else. His contract doesn't continue on Like oh,

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Speaker 1: I missed the year too, bad. So yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: going on, and then the last bit of sad news

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Speaker 1: year Mets legend Bud Harrelson passed away. Only meant to

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Speaker 1: be in uniform for both World Series.

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Speaker 2: Yes, third base coach, I think infield coach for nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty six, But I don't think a lot of people know,

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Speaker 2: which is really cool. He famously was waving right night

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Speaker 2: around home. Yeah, on the famous playing game six but

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00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: original Matt, not rerigeal Matt in ninety six nine, nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty six. He was like that kind of gritty, tough,

1323
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: snose shortstop that doesn't really exist in baseball anymore, but

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00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: was kind of a mainstay for baseball back then. Everyone

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00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: in the Mets family always had glowing things say about him.

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00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: Mike Breen had a.

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Speaker 2: Touching tribute during the NIXT game the night he died,

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Speaker 2: where he said, I grew up with two heroes in sports.

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00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: I've been lucky enough to sit next to one of

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Speaker 2: them for the last twenty five years, talking about Clyde,

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00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: and they said the other one was Bud Harrelson, as

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Speaker 2: just a hard worker, grinder, did all the little things,

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Speaker 2: did everything right, great career, great life. Said that I

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Speaker 2: passed away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very sad. One of the great Mets and definitely

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Speaker 1: like you talk to our parents, you talk to anybody

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00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: over the age of ours, and they bring up Bud

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Speaker 1: Harrelson all the time as just one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: Mets ever. And uh yeah, really sucks. That's gonna be

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Speaker 1: how we end this episode here, guys, Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for listening. Thank you for watching. Remember if you're

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Speaker 2: At James Underscore, Shiano.

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Speaker 1: And me at draftneck Mark with a C. Thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for listening, Thank you for watching it. We'll catch

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Speaker 1: you probably next week unless something big happens for another

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Speaker 1: episode of the Messed Up Podcast. Peace Out, peace out.

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