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At a time when 17 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: we expect each other to pull together, pitch in to 18 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: get through the crisis gripping not only our country but 19 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: our world, seemingly, it's the time when for many people 20 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: it brings out the worst in US. Corona virus crimes. 21 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: I Meancy Grace. This is crime Stories. Thank you for 22 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: being with us. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Let's just 23 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: kick it off with a woman who attacks a Walmart cashier? 24 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: Why is everything happening at Walmart? Take a listen to 25 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: our friends at Daily Mail listener. Wow, Wow, I'm gonna 26 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: have yet from Figin. I'm all you use this to 27 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: the backroom manager. It's called please get your flam out, 28 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: because that's where you're getting the fat out and the 29 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: fat holds the toxins at viruss. You think I'm not 30 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: just having fun being a stupid blonde. I just decided 31 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: that I just wanted to be born to be a 32 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: stupid blond. Yeah, like like five on Wow at Walmart, 33 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: in front of all the employees, in front of children, 34 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: showing them how not to act with me an all 35 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: star panel. What may have been coughing three months ago 36 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: can now be considered an aggravated assault. That's a felony 37 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: with me. Percy Pitzer forty years correctional management expertise, founder 38 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: of Creative Corrections Ashe Wilcott, judge and trial lawyer, anchor 39 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: Court TV. You can find her at Ashley Wilcott dot com. 40 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: Jeff Cortezi, former special agent with the FBI, Doctor Chris Sperry, 41 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: chief Medical Examiner, State of Georgia, former and now renowned 42 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: medical examiner and expert New York psychologist, joining us from Manhattan. 43 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: You can find her at Karen Stark dot com. But 44 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: first to crime online dot com investigative reporter Nicole Parton. Nicole, 45 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with us. Did you 46 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: hear the chaos and the drama that called? Who was 47 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: that screaming out? I wanted to grow up to be 48 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: a dumb blonde? Somebody, oh, excuse me, a stupid blonde, 49 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: and someone else saying, get your flegm out? Never heard 50 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: that one before? What happened, Nicole? Yeah, Nancy, this is 51 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: a very very crazy story. The lady that you can 52 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: hear ranting about not wanting to grow up to be 53 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: a blind is indeed a stupid blond. Go ahead, a 54 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: stupid blind. She finishes her shopping, she's checking out of 55 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: Lamart and apparently she felt she was being overcharged for 56 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: some items, so she begins to verbally attacks the cashier. 57 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: The manager comes over to try to calm things down, 58 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: resolve the issue, and that is when this lady goes 59 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: into a rant, complete meltdown. Shoppers pull out their phones. 60 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: They begin to film this. She begins to spit on 61 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: the manager and begins to go into this complete, complete 62 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: belligerent attack about the coronavirus, coughing, spitting everything. There's something 63 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: about it. Let me go to Jeff Cortes, former special 64 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: Agent FBI. Jeff, the fact that she spit on the cashier, 65 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: that is a whole another level of disrespect. Yeah. Absolutely, Nancy. 66 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: I mean to your point with the law enforcement, if 67 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: you want to fight with me, let's fight. This is 68 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: part of the job. You spit on me, and now 69 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: you are really showing lack of respect, not to me, 70 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: but to everybody who wears this uniform. And I take 71 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: that far more personal. I'm telling you. I byge Nicole 72 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: parton Crime Online dot Com Investigative Reporter, where we have 73 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: this and all other breaking crime and justice news. Now, 74 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: the woman thought she's being overcharged. She gets escorted out 75 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: of the store after police was called. Was she arrested. 76 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: We don't know that at this point, but we do 77 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: know that when the police showed up suddenly, she was 78 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: very calm as they escorted her out of the store. Okay, 79 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: let me ask you this to Karen Starts, psychologist joining 80 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: us from New York. She suddenly got calm as soon 81 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: as the cops show up. What does that tell you 82 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: about her about of anger, Well, it tells me that 83 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: her bout was for show. Nancy Dad. She was all 84 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 1: upset and carrying on because she would get attention. People 85 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: were noticing, and all of a sudden, the cups show 86 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: up and she decides that she doesn't have to put 87 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: on this display anymore, all for show. The reality is 88 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: joining me is the former chief medical examiner for the 89 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: State of Georgia. I put him on the stand many 90 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: a time, doctor Chris Sperry. Doctor Sperry questioned you regarding coronavirus, 91 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine what could be worse if you 92 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: are COVID nineteen positive spinning in somebody's face. Well, you're 93 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: absolutely right. I mean this honestly harkens back to the 94 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: early days of the AIDS epidemic, when identical situations occurred 95 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: that people that were mayor may not have been HIV positive. 96 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: But we're still you know, spitting on police who are 97 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: trying to arrest them, or spitting on others that they 98 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, that they're angry at and the fact that 99 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: the coronavirus, as we know as much as we know 100 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: about it, we definitely know it's transmitted from person to 101 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: person by respiratory droplets, you know, by the fluid and 102 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: that comes out of your mouth and your lungs. That 103 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: is a it's not a small thing. Um. Realistically, that 104 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: could be the coronavirus could be easily transmitted to another 105 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: person and unfortunately could end up being a death sentence 106 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 1: because you know it is it is lethal to older 107 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: people and people with heart and lung diseases, others, different 108 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: types of problems, and that the at the least will 109 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: make someone someone very sick. So I you know, this 110 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: is a serious threat and I think should be addressed 111 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,119 Speaker 1: appropriately because it's not only a threat, it reads fear 112 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: among the person, the people around there, people getting spit on. 113 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: It's just it's a very horrible way because it conjures 114 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: up a very very bad outcome. Really, it really does, 115 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: doctor Sperry. And the reality is it's called weaponizing COVID nineteen, 116 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: weaponizing using the virus as a weapon. You've all heard 117 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, like a knife 118 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: or a gun. Well, a deadly weapon can be a car, 119 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: it can be a rock, It can be when you're 120 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: HIV positive and you intentionally infect or COVID nineteen. Time 121 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we are talking about coronavirus crimes. 122 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen now to our 123 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: friends at NBC DFW five. This is Sophia Bisdel. It's 124 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: a video that's circling around social media and Carrolton Police 125 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: aren't taking it lightly. Eighteen year old Loria married Diaga 126 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: is accused of making a terroristic threat. Carrolton Police allegs 127 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: she claims to have COVID nineteen and a snapchat video 128 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: which shows her getting tested for the disease. In the recording, 129 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: you hear nurse saying that she has to contact health 130 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: officials about giving the test. Afterwards, the eighteen year old 131 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: claims she was out of Walmart spreading the virus according 132 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: to the video. Carrolton Police say they have no confirmation 133 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: that Matta Diaga actually has COVID nineteen or if she's 134 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: a threat to public health, but they are taking the 135 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: social media posts very seriously and that's why they're currently 136 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: looking for her. The police department says, even if this 137 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: turns out to be a prank, they say, there's nothing 138 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: a joke about when it comes to COVID nineteen, and 139 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: that is why they are taking this very seriously. Apparently 140 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: an eighteen year old girl one of my police in Carrollton, Texas. 141 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: She posts a video on Snapchat claiming she's infected with 142 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: coronavirus and then says, I will shorten your life. Take 143 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at Fox seven. This is 144 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: Austin reporter Alex Boyer Carrollton police putting a residence picture 145 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: on blast after investigators say she made a terroristic threat 146 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: on social media. They say that's eighteen year old Lorraine 147 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: Mada Diaga. Over the weekend, police say Mata Diaga posted 148 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: several Snapchat videos saying she had tested positive for COVID nineteen. 149 00:10:47,480 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: Mada Diaga said she intended to spread the virus's coronavirus 150 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: over Carrollton. Police don't know if she's indeed positive, her 151 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: whereabouts unknown right now. The priority is finding her and 152 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: getting her in custody and a whole lot of questions 153 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: to answer after that. Not only are local police looking 154 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: for her, the FBI is in on it. Take a 155 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: listen to our friends, Alex Boyer Fox seven. Carrolton Police 156 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: spokeswoman Joline DeVito says the FBI Dallas Field office is 157 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:39,239 Speaker 1: working in conjunction with Carrolton PD, offering detectives any resources 158 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: they may need in this criminal investigation. This young woman's actions, 159 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: we just we're not going to tolerate it. In mid March, 160 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: a DPS employee who worked at the Carrollton Driver's License 161 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: office claimed they tested positive for the coronavirus. The location 162 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: was shut down. DPS said. An investigation later determined the 163 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: employee lied. They were disciplined for providing false information. DPS 164 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: did not provide additional details. Joline DeVito says, whether or 165 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: not Manta Diaga turns out to be positive for COVID nineteen, 166 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: she's already committed a third degree felony making a terroristic threat. Specifically, 167 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: in the law, it's subsection five place the public or 168 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: substantial group of the public in fear of serious bodily injury. 169 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: To Nicole Parton, joining us Crime online dot Com investigatory 170 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: reporter Nicole, what's the latest on this brat? I'm just 171 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: learning Nancy that she has been arrested. Local authorities did 172 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: find her and she has been arrested, and she is 173 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: now looking at charges of making a terroristic threat. What 174 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: a brat, But the reality is, actually will Coat judge 175 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: and trial lawyer, court TV anchor, it's more than being 176 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: a brat. Now, a terroristic threat is a serious felony. 177 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: It's not just idle chat like you're Jackie I just 178 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: want to kill him. No, it's not that. It's when 179 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: you make another overt at such as posting a video, 180 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: such as sending an email or a threatening phone call 181 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: or text that puts your talk. You're boasting your big 182 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: talk into another realm because you're actually acting on it. 183 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: And another comparison, Ashley's when you go into a bank 184 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: with a fake gun. That's still on robbery robbery because 185 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: it's robbery with a gun or replica of a gun, 186 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: because it causes the same fear. Why is this a 187 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: terroristic threat Ashley Wilcott, Well, first of all, it's idiotic 188 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: behavior by an eighteen year old, but it rises to 189 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: the level of a crime because she was clear in 190 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: her intent. He specifically said this is what I'm going 191 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: to do, So the intent was there. The threat was 192 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: there to cause the serious bodily harm, so it is 193 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: clearly a terroristic threat. Now the good news is from 194 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: my perspective, is that yes, she is being investigated and 195 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: prosecuted for the crime because Nancy. The reality is, not 196 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: only is it necessary to prosecute to punish her, but 197 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: also to discourage others from engaging in this idiotic behavior 198 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: that amounts to a crime. Let me understand something, Nicole 199 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: Parton Crime Online investigative reporter Lorraine Mariaga was one of 200 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: my police. She's just been arrested because she posted a 201 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: snapchat video of herself claiming to be coronavirus positive and 202 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: claiming to deliberately spread the deadly virus. Is that correct? 203 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: Do I understand what she did? That's correct? Even in 204 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: one of her snapchat posts, she says, if you want 205 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: the virus, come see me and I'll cough all over you. 206 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: She posts another snapchat where she's shopping in a store 207 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: and she's coughing out loud, spreading the droplets, spreading the germ, coughing, laughing, 208 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: making a big joke of it. I'll give everyone the virus, 209 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: she says in her snapchat post. You know to Karen started, 210 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it at all. 211 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: People are dropping dead at this moment. They are in 212 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: hospitals all across our country, gasping for breath and dying. 213 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: It just hurt me so much. Yesterday I read about 214 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: a story where a son his mother was holding his 215 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: head in her lap and he goes, Mom, I'm not 216 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: gonna make it. I don't think i'm gonna make it. 217 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: And he dies right there, right there in his mother's hands. 218 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: And now this, well, Nancy, when you think about things 219 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: that we've talked about, where groups of kids have been 220 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: gathering and in some places still not paying attention to 221 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: social distancing, you could see that they don't really get 222 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: how serious this is until it's something in front of them. 223 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: They see that their own relatives are getting sick or dying. 224 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: They just believe that they have eternal life. It's not 225 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: quite real to them. So here's a girl who's very 226 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: troubled and decides that, yeah, I'm gonna just broadcast that 227 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this type of people. Hold on, I'm 228 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: getting an update. Hold on a second, you're telling me Lorraine. 229 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: Lorraine Madiaga has now gotten out on bonden, and I 230 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: also want to find out about the first woman. That's 231 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to find out that cost and sneeze, 232 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: Oh just escorted out of Walmart. That is an Aga 233 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: Sault right there, the woman that coughed and sneezed on 234 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: the Walmart cashier, Madiaga. Karen Stark has now made a 235 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: bond Now, we don't know if she's in fact infected, 236 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: But what more do we know about it, Nicole Parton. 237 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: We do know that she posted a video where she 238 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: appeared to be in line taking a test for the 239 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen virus in one of these remote locations where 240 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: you drive through and take the test, and you can 241 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: hear medical worker on the video telling her to now 242 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: go home and wait for the results of the tests. So, 243 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: while we don't know if she tested positive, we do 244 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: know that at some point she must have had the 245 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: symptoms enough for a medical doctor to feel that she 246 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: needed to be tested. So there's the snapchat she posts herself, 247 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: Then she posts herself the video of her going through 248 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: a drive through coronavirus test site. Then there's video of 249 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: her at Walmart coughing, threatening to infect everyone. That's a 250 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: terroristic threat. We know that she has made bond. This 251 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: is just the tip of the iceberg. We're still waiting 252 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: to find out if she's COVID nineteen positive crime stories 253 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace guys coronavirus crimes. Why is this happening 254 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: at such a horrible time in our country's history. Take 255 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: a listen to this disturbing allegations. A physician here at 256 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: Yukon Health accused of intentionally coughing on other workers during 257 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: this coronavirus pandemic. Yukon Police issued a misdemeanor breach of 258 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: peace summons yesterday morning for doctor Corey Edgar. They say 259 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: witnesses saw him intentionally coughing on two medical employees at 260 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: the health center in close proximity, and that the witnesses 261 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: and medical workers believed he was purposely disregarding space and 262 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: safety concerns involving the coronavirus. We are learning that a 263 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: doctor did a thing like this to Nicole Parton Crime 264 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: Online dot Com investigative reporter, I've got to hear this. 265 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: Tell me about the doctor. This Connecticut doctor was a risk, said, 266 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: because he was deliberately coughing on coworkers. Apparently ignoring social distancing, 267 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: threatening his co workers, making light of the situation, and 268 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: in a joking manner coughing on coworkers as if it 269 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: were no big deal too, Ashley Willcott, Judge and Trial 270 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: while your anchor at Court TV, how many times have 271 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: you seen an aggravated assault where the person that says, oh, 272 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 1: I was joking, Who cares you know whether you're joking 273 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: or not? As no defense, as you well know, because 274 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: if you attempt to cause serious bodily harm, which he 275 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: is by coughing during the coronavirus and with disregard for 276 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: human life, that's agg assault. So it doesn't matter if 277 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: you say, oh, I didn't mean to oh I was joking, 278 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: Oh it was no big deal. Those are not defenses 279 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: to the crime you've committed. It's doctor Corey Edgar, an 280 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: assistant professor of orthopedic surgery at Yukon Help. He was 281 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: arrested and charged with breach of peace. Back to you, 282 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: ash what is breach of peace? Now? This is for 283 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: allegedly coughing on two co workers at the health center, 284 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: very close to them, in close proximity, and the witnesses 285 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: say that they believe he was intentionally disregarding space and 286 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: safety concerns. Right now, there are thousands and thousands of 287 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: coronavirus cases in our country. And while he says he's joking, 288 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: what about it, Ashley? Yeah, So back with the breach 289 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: of pieces, the fact that he disregarded and was doing that. 290 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: And so every state, as you well known, Nancy, has 291 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: different charges for different crimes, but that one amounts to 292 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: the fact he was completely disregarding and was coughing and 293 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: doing that action. That's the breach of peace. Now, it 294 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: may not amount to an abbreviated assault because it may 295 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: be that there was no intent. They could prove that 296 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: he was trying to cause the serious bodily harm, but 297 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: it's still a crime. And the thing I want to 298 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: say is that to me, doctor has even a higher 299 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: standard right than a naive eighteen year old, for instance, 300 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: because he knows better, he knows the risks, he knows 301 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: what's going on. He knows better, and you can't even 302 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: do this to joke. It's not okay. We're talking about 303 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: a Connecticut doctor who allegedly coughed on coworkers. And again, 304 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: Ashi Will, this sounds like a misdemeanor or a local ordinance. 305 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: What exactly is breach of peace? Well, you know what, 306 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I don't know exactly what it 307 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: is in this state, but I can tell you in 308 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: just a moment, because the reality is it's disturbing the peace. 309 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: That's what it's called in a lot of states, right 310 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: when you do anything to disturb the peace. And what 311 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: this means Sancy is, think about it. Even if he's joking, 312 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: when he says, oh, I'm going to do this, it 313 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: causes a reaction and all the medical professionals and all 314 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: the people around them, it causes fear and it can 315 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: cause action by them. So it can go from thinking 316 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: ash breach of peace. For instance, if somebody shoots a 317 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: gun in the air, that's not only discharging a weapon 318 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: within city limits, it's also a breach of peace. If 319 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: you have a party that's too loud and it disturbs 320 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: all the nature neighbors, you can be charged with breach 321 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: of peace. Let's take a listen now to our friend 322 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 1: Elliott Polakoff, WFSB news reporter, talking with a spokeswoman from 323 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: mukon health. She has said that doctor Kreyeger he is 324 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: not COVID nineteen positive and he is considered to be 325 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: an excellent physical health, but the question remains, why did 326 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: this happen? The answer may have something to do with 327 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: mental health. You know, we talk about the virus being unseen, 328 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: but stresses as well, and as Middletown based clinical psychologist 329 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: doctor Robert Reynolds explains, it can happen to anyone, especially 330 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 1: healthcare professionals. In the middle of the coronavirus pandemic. I 331 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: think that there are going to be more and more 332 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: people who are struggling with the psychological impacts, and the 333 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: ones on the front line right now are healthcare providers 334 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: on Health and Farmington Sports Medicine. Doctor Corey Edgar faces 335 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: an uncertain future after being arrested on Thursday morning for 336 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: breach of peace after intentionally coughing onto other medical employees. 337 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: While the hospital says those co workers are not considered 338 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: at risk because the doctor is not COVID nineteen positive, 339 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: this pandemic is creating stress that is causing another troubling 340 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: new development. I think that we're going to start to 341 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 1: see more of the psychological aspects of the emotional reactions 342 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: to all of this. That's really going to start overwhelming 343 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: our mental health systems joining me right now. Psychologists out 344 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: of Manhattan DODG Karen Start Karen explain what they just said. 345 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: What they're saying is that this is having a huge 346 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: impact on people emotionally, which we know nanswers, and so 347 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: they're suggesting that we're going to see more of this, 348 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: which doesn't surprise me. People who react to this kind 349 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: of pressure, especially people in the front line, and they're 350 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: not making sound judgment or they are that angry where 351 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: they're spreading. It's really creates mass destruction as we know. 352 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: So it's a powerful, powerful weapon, and someone who has 353 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: this can use it without going out and buying a 354 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: gun or having a knife. What they're actually doing is 355 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: taking their distress and spreading it. To doctor Chris Sperry, 356 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: the former medical examiner for the entire state Georgia. Doctor Sperry, 357 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: when you are arrested as a doctor like this in 358 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: this scenario, is he going to lose his license and 359 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: not be able to practice anymore? What can he expect? Well, you, actually, 360 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: you are stealing the thoughts from my mind. Just simply 361 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: the fact that he's arrested makes mandates that he must 362 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: report that to the state Medical Board. Every state in 363 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: the country has that provision as one of the requirements 364 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: for being a doctor. If you are arrested or anything, 365 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: you have to report that to the medical board yourself. Now, 366 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: the likelihood is pretty high that his actions would cause others, 367 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, superiors, hospital administrators, I mean, even the people involved. 368 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: I mean they could also report it to the state 369 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: medical board. But all of those things put together means 370 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: that there's a really high likelihood he could get his 371 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: license suspended or frankly, just get it revoked, because that 372 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: type of intentionally dangerous and potentially life threatening action by 373 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: someone as highly trained as a physician just is not 374 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: acceptable and can't be waved it waved away, can't be 375 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: shoved under the rug. He's going to have more problems 376 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: out of this than I think what he realized at 377 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: the moment when he did this behavior. Guys, typically we 378 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: report on crimes against the Jewish population, who has been 379 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: plagued with hate crimes and anti semitism for centuries. But 380 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: in an odd reversal, a Muslim New York firefighter has 381 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: now contracted coronavirus just days after a Jewish team deliberately 382 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: sneezes in his face. Okay too, Nicole parton what happened? 383 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: So apparently, Nancy, three teams were out of their targeted 384 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: this firefighter. They saw him out, they began to taunt 385 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: him and say, are you afraid of the virus? Do 386 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: you have the virus? Are you afraid of the virus? 387 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: The firefighter tried to distance himself from the teams, but 388 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: they continued to get closer and closer. Again, he distanced himself, 389 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: they got closer, taunting him. What would happen if you 390 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: got the virus? Are you afraid of the virus? At 391 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: this point, one of the teams got physically close enough 392 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: to the firefighter and intentionally sneezed on him and then 393 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: ran away. What's happened to the teams, Nicole? Have they 394 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: been charged? We don't know that they've been charged because 395 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: there is no video evidence of what took place, and 396 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: to my knowledge, they have not been charged with anything. 397 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace distress, the anger and the 398 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: confusion now caused by Corona virus is leading to a 399 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: spate of crimes. But why take a listen and a 400 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: heart breaking story to Jason Hargrove, a Detroit bus driver. 401 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: This coronavirus is for real and we all hear as 402 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: public workers doing our job, trying to make an honest living, 403 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: to take care of our families. But for you to 404 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: get on the bus and stand on the bus and 405 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: cough several times without covering up your mouth, and you 406 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: know that we're in the middle of a pandemic. That 407 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: that that lets me know that some folks don't care utterly, 408 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: don't give a excuse my language, but that's how I 409 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: feel right about now. For a grown person and her 410 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: late fifties, early sixties to stand on the bus and 411 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: cough four and five times without covering up your mouth, 412 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: and you know we're in the midst of a mother 413 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: crisis with this coronavirus. I am the off I'm just 414 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: so sad to report mister Hargrove has passed away. He 415 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: passed away. He died from coronavirus. To Nicole, pardon what 416 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: happened with mister Hargrave. He makes this video, Nancy, and 417 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: in the video he tells the story of exactly what happened. 418 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: A lady gets on the bus and she coughs while 419 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: refusing to cover her mouth. In one portion of his video, 420 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: it's heartbreaking. He explains that he is a father, a husband, 421 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: and that he's driving that bus to provide for his family. 422 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: But this lady, apparently infected with the virus cough refuses 423 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: to follow social distancing, refuses to take precautions. We can't 424 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: know if he contracted COVID nineteen from her, but we 425 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: do know sadly that he did contract a virus and 426 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: he passed away. Nicole. Did the woman make any indication 427 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: that she was doing it on purpose or that she 428 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: thought she had COVID nineteen. She did not make any 429 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: remarks to him in that manner, but he did ask 430 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: her to please cover your mouth, please take precautions. We're 431 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: in the midst of a crisis. There's a pandemic. People 432 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: are dying. Can you please be careful, and she refused 433 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: to listen to him. You know, Jeff Cortesi, former special 434 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: agent with the FBI, cops, bus drivers, prosecutors, judges, hospital workers, Everybody, 435 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: as a nature of their job, is out there on 436 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: the front lines, and unless they want to lose their 437 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: job equit working, they have to be there. It's just 438 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: so unfair that this bus driver begged the woman to 439 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: quit coughing on him, she wouldn't stop. Now he has 440 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: coronavirus and he passed away. Yeah, I mean, you know, 441 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: there are only a handful of people, it seems, that 442 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: are even out there able to work, and not just 443 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: able to work, but are working so that others can 444 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: can live. As you mentioned, doctor's law enforcement, even public transportation. 445 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: It's unconscionable to think that, you know, those who are 446 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: out there focusing on more important things, right, saving lives, 447 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: have to look over their shoulder and try to account 448 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: for those who are just completely discrediting this whole thing 449 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: and ignoring it and disregarding the help them moping of others, 450 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: and the reality is they're trapped there that they can't 451 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: get away. This bus driver, unless he wants to lose 452 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: his livelihood and not be able to support his children, 453 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: has to keep driving that bus and put up with 454 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: this woman. And now he has passed away. Nicole, what 455 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: can you tell me about Anthony Ponzy? The twenty one 456 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: year old man Anthony Ponzy was arrested after he was 457 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: going the wrong way on the street crashed into another car. 458 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: Police of course got on the scene began to arrest him, 459 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: and that's when he was very aggressive speech, was slurred, 460 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: foaming at the mouth, and he allegedly attacks the police 461 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: officer and begins again to try to read this virus, 462 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: coughing on them, spitting on them, and attacking the officers. 463 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: We're talking about a twenty one year old Chicago man 464 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: arrested for coughing in Chicago CoP's face, claiming yet coronavirus 465 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: after he gets into a car crash at twenty one 466 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: years old. You know, Karen Stark, A lot of people 467 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: will say, like somebody said earlier, I think it was you, 468 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: Ashley Walcott. The person was eighteen. I did call her 469 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: a brat, but I want her treat it as an adult. 470 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: At twenty one, Karen start, you know better, absolutely, Nancy, 471 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: at twenty one. I mean it's still you're younger, but 472 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: you do know better. And I think in this, for instance, 473 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: this is what's actually a purposeful act that he was 474 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: really angry. You're talking. I mean, we have people out 475 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: there who are killers, right, who don't have a conscience, 476 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: and here is somebody who actually used the fact that 477 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: he might be sick as a weapon against the police. 478 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: This was an early morning call, around eight o'clock in 479 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: the morning. Police say, Ponsy drove his great jeep the 480 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: wrong way and collided into another car, exited his vehicle, 481 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: and allegedly attacked the other driver. That's who we're dealing with. 482 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the mindset of someone like this and then 483 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: to taunt the cops. I mean, Bratt fits him perfectly. 484 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: But he is much old, much older than a kid. 485 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: He knows better, and I'm wondering, bottom line, what the 486 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: charges against him will be. What do you make of it, 487 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: Nicole part and any word on that. We don't have 488 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 1: word of the charges, but of course we do know 489 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: that he was arrested. To you asked you will call 490 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: what charges do you anticipate? Well, you know, you've got 491 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: all kinds of potential charges in this. You've got assault. 492 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: In my opinion, you've got the aggravated assault, because then 493 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: again you're attempting, by the threats you're making and attacking 494 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: and what you're doing, you're attempting, in my opinion, to 495 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: cause serious bodily harm without regard for human life. Guys, 496 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: a sixty five year old man has just been tackled 497 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: by other shoppers. I want you to take a listen 498 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: to our friends at Boston wb Z four NIS reporter 499 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: Jim Smith, well, a bizarre story here at this stopping 500 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: shopping Kingston, and it really created anxious moments for customers 501 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: and workers. The wild scene erupted just before noon Saturday 502 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: in front of shocked shoppers this cell phone video showing 503 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: two or three men subduing another man. Kingston Police were 504 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: told a sixty five year old man from Duxbury was 505 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: coughing and spitting and became confrontational with staff and witnesses. 506 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: The man who took this video posted that the man 507 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 1: was coughing and spitting on the produce, but the police 508 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: news release doesn't say what he was targeting. Hours later, 509 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: other shoppers could only shake their collective heads. Odd behavior 510 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: with people maybe who have a that has other problems, 511 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: but something like that should not occur a period that 512 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: somebody would even think to do that. It's just it 513 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: blows my mind right now, especially with what's going on, 514 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: and everybody should be binding together and be respectful of 515 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: each other and try to stop the spread of this 516 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: awful thing that's going on right now. Bottom line, wash 517 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: your produce to doctor Chris Sperry joining us, the former 518 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: chief medical examiner for the entire state of Georgia, Doctor Sperry, 519 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: speak to me about I mean, you're the MD. I'm 520 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: just a JD. What's the likelihood that COVID nineteen could 521 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: be spread from produce that somebody coughed or spin on 522 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: or sneezed on at the grocery store if they're COVID 523 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: nineteen positive and you get that produce at home, well, 524 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: likelihood really is small. But for produce especially, and this, 525 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of the things many of 526 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: us started doing years ago. It is really proper, and 527 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: it's almost required that if you buy produce at a store, 528 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: yet you don't know who has touched it, you don't 529 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: know where it's been, and it's routine to wash your produce, uh, 530 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, underwater, and you know, clean it before you 531 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: put in the fridge. So with soap, Chris, Oh, with soap? No, 532 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: I mean otherwise, especially with lettuce, you'd end up with 533 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: soapy tasting lettuce. Okay, wait a minute, how about washing 534 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: the out I always take the outside leaves off the lettuce, Okay, 535 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: just the outside, and then I washed the rest of you. 536 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about an apple. Don't you wash that with soap? 537 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: You don't really need to because the virus the what 538 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: you go ahead and eat all the pesticide and all 539 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen doctor Chris Berry. But I'm washing mine 540 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: with hand soap, rinsing it and drawing it. That work. 541 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm not washing any of art. I mean we were 542 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: our produce regularly, just that we buy, but you know boxes, 543 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: regular food things like that that uh you know, we don't. 544 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: We don't wipe that down. Okay, Barry, you have coffee, 545 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: I'll have tea. I'm not going to tell somebody not 546 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: to do it, because if it makes them feel better 547 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: than that's great. But um, going overboard is not. It's 548 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: taking something that's almost impossible, a risk that is almost impossible, 549 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: and uh, you know who knows how you're changing it? 550 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: So well, I'm glad to hear that. But I'm going 551 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: to continue watching with So guys, the COVID nineteen crimes 552 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: continue on. We're bringing them to you to make you 553 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: aware of them so you can avoid situations just like this. 554 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: Keep the faith. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off, Goodbye 555 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: friend