WEBVTT - The Season with Peter Schrager: Scott Van Pelt 0:00:07.266 --> 0:00:09.706 The Season with Peter Schreeger is a production of the 0:00:09.826 --> 0:00:23.946 NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, Welcome to 0:00:23.986 --> 0:00:27.226 the Season with Peter Schreger. I am Peter Schreeger. I 0:00:27.226 --> 0:00:29.746 am the hosts of Good Morning Football on the NFL Network. 0:00:29.826 --> 0:00:32.466 You can also read my stuff over at Fox sports 0:00:32.546 --> 0:00:34.906 dot com and you can see me on Sundays on 0:00:35.026 --> 0:00:38.026 Fox NFL Kickoff. But today, as I record this on 0:00:38.066 --> 0:00:42.106 a Thursday morning in glorious New York City, I identify 0:00:42.146 --> 0:00:45.026 as a New York sports fan. I am telling you 0:00:45.226 --> 0:00:48.626 I am walking through the streets this morning, just mere 0:00:48.826 --> 0:00:52.706 hours after the Yankees beat the Royals in a Big 0:00:52.746 --> 0:00:56.946 Game three in Kansas City, the Mets eliminated the Phillies 0:00:57.066 --> 0:01:01.146 in a Big Game four in City Field, and whereas 0:01:01.226 --> 0:01:04.186 the New York Liberty are suiting up tonight to take 0:01:04.226 --> 0:01:07.186 on the Minnesota Links in a WNBA five Finals match. Oh, 0:01:07.226 --> 0:01:10.066 by the way, the Knicks won a preseason game. The 0:01:10.186 --> 0:01:13.386 Rangers are hot in the preseason, and everything is coming 0:01:13.506 --> 0:01:17.706 up New York. Except there's one team that is still 0:01:17.706 --> 0:01:21.026 dominating the back pages, and that's the New York Jets. 0:01:21.746 --> 0:01:23.746 And I'm going to talk a little bit about the 0:01:23.826 --> 0:01:26.666 last seventy two hours in New York. I did an 0:01:26.666 --> 0:01:29.786 emergency podcast in your feed day it happened, but Robert 0:01:29.866 --> 0:01:33.706 Sala was fired rather abruptly Tuesday morning, and with forty 0:01:33.746 --> 0:01:36.786 eight hours more for me to do my work as 0:01:36.826 --> 0:01:39.226 a reporter and digest and put on that hat, I 0:01:39.266 --> 0:01:42.506 can share with you some interesting details. Woody Johnson, the 0:01:42.546 --> 0:01:46.706 ambassador was not happy after the game in London, and 0:01:47.066 --> 0:01:49.826 yes there were talks on the flight back as to 0:01:49.866 --> 0:01:52.146 whether it was time to rip off the band aid 0:01:52.706 --> 0:01:56.986 and dispose of Robert Sala and maybe make some different 0:01:57.066 --> 0:02:01.346 wholesale changes. What those are I don't know. As Monday began, 0:02:01.706 --> 0:02:05.706 everybody got into the building and looking over their shoulders, 0:02:05.746 --> 0:02:08.546 are we good? Are fine? Started working on a game plan. 0:02:08.906 --> 0:02:11.986 But the big change was Robert Sala was going to 0:02:12.466 --> 0:02:16.066 remove play calling duties from Nathaniel Hackett to Todd Downing 0:02:17.026 --> 0:02:20.186 that was shared with Hackett. Hackett was understanding. He said, 0:02:20.186 --> 0:02:22.546 I will do whatever is necessary for this team. I 0:02:22.546 --> 0:02:24.666 have no ego. I will take a back seat. Am 0:02:24.666 --> 0:02:27.386 I still employed? Yes, you're still employed. We're good. Hackett 0:02:27.426 --> 0:02:29.906 not getting fired. The big change this week was going 0:02:29.986 --> 0:02:34.546 to be play calling duties. Aaron Rodgers went on Pat 0:02:34.626 --> 0:02:39.146 McAfee and revealed he did speak with the owner, Woody Johnson, 0:02:39.186 --> 0:02:40.866 on a phone Monday night, but it was more about 0:02:40.866 --> 0:02:43.866 how you're doing, how's your ankle? It wasn't so much 0:02:43.986 --> 0:02:47.186 about should we fire Robert Sala. In fact, I take 0:02:47.266 --> 0:02:49.226 Rogers on his word on this, and it's everything that 0:02:49.266 --> 0:02:52.866 I heard. That idea was not suggested to Rodgers, and 0:02:52.906 --> 0:02:55.586 from what I gather, whether or not it was done 0:02:55.666 --> 0:02:58.586 so with the read between the lines or body language 0:02:58.666 --> 0:03:01.346 or whatever. Rogers was not the judge, the jury and 0:03:01.386 --> 0:03:04.506 the executioner on this one Tuesday morning. Everyone got to 0:03:04.546 --> 0:03:07.306 the building, this is going to be rolled to the team, 0:03:07.346 --> 0:03:09.226 and in a grander fashion that this was going to 0:03:09.266 --> 0:03:11.426 be Todd Downing now calling the place for the New 0:03:11.506 --> 0:03:13.466 York Jets. And instead of them just turning the page 0:03:13.466 --> 0:03:16.026 and looking towards the Buffalo Bills, the bomb was dropped. 0:03:16.106 --> 0:03:18.986 Robert Sala, after four years as head coach of the 0:03:18.986 --> 0:03:22.706 New York Jets, was fired, and he takes his twenty 0:03:22.706 --> 0:03:26.466 and thirty six regular Susan record with him and he 0:03:26.506 --> 0:03:31.146 goes with some great shock within the building. Hackett was shocked. 0:03:31.586 --> 0:03:34.866 I could tell you that multiple coaches were shocked, and 0:03:35.066 --> 0:03:38.266 I again will tell you that this reverberated throughout the 0:03:38.506 --> 0:03:41.266 team as well. You heard Tyler Conklin say that he 0:03:41.386 --> 0:03:43.666 was shocked, and the tight end said that Aaron Rodgers 0:03:43.666 --> 0:03:45.426 was as torn up by anybody. They love Robert sala 0:03:45.906 --> 0:03:48.346 that's kind of the aside. Here. Sala, as you may 0:03:48.426 --> 0:03:50.826 or may not know, has nine children living in the 0:03:50.866 --> 0:03:54.706 New Jersey area. He is a good man, and people 0:03:54.786 --> 0:03:56.466 roll their eyes say, I don't want to hear about 0:03:56.466 --> 0:03:58.226 what a good guy is. Can he coach football or not? 0:03:58.306 --> 0:04:00.986 You're making millions of dollars. I get it. He can 0:04:01.066 --> 0:04:03.546 coach football. He's a really good coach, and I think 0:04:03.706 --> 0:04:05.266 he might have another shot of being a head coach 0:04:05.266 --> 0:04:06.906 where he can redeem himself. But at the end of 0:04:06.946 --> 0:04:10.186 the day, the scoreboard wasn't what it was in the 0:04:10.186 --> 0:04:13.266 eyes of what the Jets ownership thought it should be. 0:04:13.346 --> 0:04:15.826 Two and three after two bad losses, one of them 0:04:15.866 --> 0:04:18.066 in the rain against the Broncos and one of them 0:04:18.066 --> 0:04:21.546 overseas was just a road that the Jets ownership felt 0:04:21.746 --> 0:04:24.066 like had gone the distance and they weren't going to 0:04:24.106 --> 0:04:28.106 be able to turn it around as they saw fit. 0:04:28.306 --> 0:04:32.186 Now They did this move with the desire to kick 0:04:32.226 --> 0:04:37.226 start this franchise, to light a fire under everybody's you 0:04:37.266 --> 0:04:40.226 know what, and to see if Jeff Olbrick known as 0:04:40.306 --> 0:04:42.666 Breck in the building, a former player and a very 0:04:42.666 --> 0:04:46.466 good defensive coach, can get this team back on track 0:04:46.626 --> 0:04:49.026 and save the season, and it might not take much. 0:04:49.546 --> 0:04:51.746 The Jets play the Bills on Monday night. If they 0:04:51.786 --> 0:04:53.786 win that game against the Bills, they will be three 0:04:53.786 --> 0:04:55.946 and three and they will be at the very least 0:04:55.986 --> 0:05:00.066 tied for first place in the division. Move on beyond that, 0:05:00.346 --> 0:05:02.746 they have ten games on the East Coast coming up, 0:05:02.786 --> 0:05:04.186 meaning they're not going to be flying all over to 0:05:04.226 --> 0:05:07.386 London to San Francisco, to Nashville and everywhere in between, 0:05:07.426 --> 0:05:10.186 with short weeks, long weeks, pretty much standard games and 0:05:10.226 --> 0:05:12.666 that one o'clock window, all of them up and down 0:05:12.706 --> 0:05:15.226 the Eastern Seaboard. They also have the fifth easiest schedule 0:05:15.306 --> 0:05:19.386 left per sports Radar and all the different Elias Sports 0:05:19.426 --> 0:05:22.186 Bureau numbers that have been crunched. I don't want to 0:05:22.226 --> 0:05:25.866 say that this is a winnable game, but if you 0:05:25.906 --> 0:05:29.746 look at Buffalo, this is one that I think Jets fans, 0:05:29.746 --> 0:05:32.466 despite being seven point underdogs and everything know that they 0:05:32.506 --> 0:05:34.666 can take. They've beaten the Bills in this building before. 0:05:34.746 --> 0:05:36.506 They did it last year when Rogers went down in 0:05:36.506 --> 0:05:38.906 Week one, and they have beaten them in years prior 0:05:38.946 --> 0:05:42.266 as well. With Josh Allen having had scratching games, the 0:05:42.346 --> 0:05:44.106 Jets defense is still one of the best in football. 0:05:44.106 --> 0:05:47.186 And Olbrich now takes over as the head coach, and 0:05:47.826 --> 0:05:51.186 on Thursday, two days removed from the news of the firing, 0:05:51.226 --> 0:05:54.186 he came out and publicly announced that Todd Downing will 0:05:54.226 --> 0:05:58.706 be calling the offense. Counting we'll see. He took over 0:05:58.946 --> 0:06:03.706 in Tennessee and was a fine offensive coordinator there when 0:06:03.786 --> 0:06:06.826 Arthur Smith was the head coach for a few years 0:06:06.906 --> 0:06:12.066 there in Nashville, his tenure ended unceremoniously with an incident 0:06:12.106 --> 0:06:14.226 that he regrets and has been paying for ever since. 0:06:14.546 --> 0:06:19.346 Now he gets another opportunity for redemption himself. Jets are 0:06:19.666 --> 0:06:22.826 such an interesting story. I had them as the number 0:06:22.826 --> 0:06:25.066 one team in the AFC before the season started. I 0:06:25.106 --> 0:06:27.746 have Rogers as my MVP. None of that is true 0:06:27.826 --> 0:06:31.186 right now. And yet as we turn the page and 0:06:31.226 --> 0:06:34.546 we head towards the weekend, it seems like there's still 0:06:34.586 --> 0:06:37.106 a chance, and there's still is a glimmer of hope, 0:06:37.106 --> 0:06:39.146 and there's still is a path Morgan Moses is going 0:06:39.226 --> 0:06:42.146 to return, and you run Brice Hall and Brayln Allen 0:06:42.226 --> 0:06:45.586 behind that offensive line with Elijah Vera Tucker and now 0:06:45.586 --> 0:06:50.346 Morgan Moses right there upright, there's a chance. Monday Night's 0:06:50.346 --> 0:06:53.506 going to be fascinating. And I think that Aaron Rodgers 0:06:53.626 --> 0:06:56.906 is going to come out hair on fire and hopefully 0:06:56.906 --> 0:06:59.546 looking to salvage this season for the New York Jets. 0:07:00.506 --> 0:07:04.026 Robert Salad is gone. This was a shocker within the building, 0:07:04.946 --> 0:07:07.306 and yet as we fast forward forty hours, we learn 0:07:07.866 --> 0:07:11.426 not only does the world continue to spin, and not 0:07:11.466 --> 0:07:13.426 only the Jets fans turn the page and say, okay, 0:07:13.466 --> 0:07:17.026 what's next? New York sports fans have a lot going 0:07:17.066 --> 0:07:19.386 on and if they don't win, and if they fade 0:07:19.386 --> 0:07:22.706 away Jets fans, well, they've got these other squads that 0:07:22.706 --> 0:07:25.786 they're leaning on. The Mets, the Yankees were a couple 0:07:25.826 --> 0:07:28.346 games away, a couple wins away from a Subway series, 0:07:29.026 --> 0:07:32.146 and the Jets, though they've dominated the headlines, they might 0:07:32.186 --> 0:07:34.146 take a back seat if they don't figure this thing 0:07:34.146 --> 0:07:37.106 out pretty soon. With no further ado, I want to 0:07:37.106 --> 0:07:40.346 bring on our guest, because whereas Bill's Jets is a 0:07:40.346 --> 0:07:43.746 fascinating game, I think the game of the week is 0:07:43.746 --> 0:07:47.946 being played in Baltimore. It's Sunday, it's Commanders versus Ravens. 0:07:48.026 --> 0:07:50.586 It has been hyped as the Battle of the Beltway. 0:07:50.666 --> 0:07:52.906 CBS is sending their number one crew there in Jim 0:07:52.986 --> 0:07:57.186 Nantz and Tony Romo. And yet despite all this talk 0:07:57.266 --> 0:07:59.586 all this week about it being this great rivalry and 0:07:59.626 --> 0:08:02.906 this being, you know, a geographic war and a battle 0:08:02.906 --> 0:08:05.386 for land and fans, I don't know if I can 0:08:05.426 --> 0:08:07.946 get there on that. So I'm bringing in Scott Van 0:08:07.986 --> 0:08:12.426 Pelt as our guest to talk about the Ravens Commander's 0:08:12.466 --> 0:08:16.346 game and more specifically, is this a rivalry or not. 0:08:17.306 --> 0:08:30.066 We'll get to Scott into this. One of my favorite 0:08:30.106 --> 0:08:33.186 people in sports media, also one of the best at 0:08:33.226 --> 0:08:35.746 what he does both on Sports Center and now is 0:08:35.786 --> 0:08:38.426 the Monday night football studio show host, which I think 0:08:38.506 --> 0:08:41.226 is as good as anybody manning that desk, and he's 0:08:41.266 --> 0:08:43.386 doing such a wonderful job in the glow up of 0:08:43.426 --> 0:08:46.026 Monday night football in the last few years. But more 0:08:46.066 --> 0:08:50.746 than anything, this guy represents a geographical area in this 0:08:50.786 --> 0:08:53.906 country that I had to hit on with this Commander's 0:08:54.066 --> 0:08:57.946 Ravens battle with no further ado. Svp mi'ster Scott Van Pelt. 0:08:57.986 --> 0:08:59.466 Welcome to the season with Peter Shaker. 0:09:00.386 --> 0:09:03.986 Peter, thank you. I appreciate this question by a text 0:09:04.186 --> 0:09:07.826 was it's really really interesting thing. I'll let you explain 0:09:07.946 --> 0:09:10.706 that sort of what it is you're trying to get to, 0:09:10.746 --> 0:09:12.946 and then I'll try not to be long winded. But 0:09:12.946 --> 0:09:14.146 there's a lot of layers to this. 0:09:15.066 --> 0:09:19.026 Yeah. So I think for the listeners and viewers of 0:09:19.066 --> 0:09:23.266 football who don't live in that market, they see Commanders 0:09:23.426 --> 0:09:26.786 versus Ravens and they say, oh, backyard brawl, and there's 0:09:26.906 --> 0:09:29.306 years and years of history to that, and those two 0:09:29.346 --> 0:09:32.626 franchises and their fans hate each other. But I've been 0:09:32.666 --> 0:09:35.586 watching football since the eighties. I also am married to 0:09:35.626 --> 0:09:39.946 a girl from Pikesville, Maryland whose family is Baltimore's sports 0:09:39.986 --> 0:09:42.946 through and through, and my father in law was a 0:09:42.986 --> 0:09:46.266 Colts fan forever. They moved the team and then adopted 0:09:46.266 --> 0:09:49.026 the Ravens. And I brought up, what do you make 0:09:49.066 --> 0:09:52.586 of like redskinstin Commanders and he's like, well, they're there, 0:09:52.626 --> 0:09:55.346 but it's not like this hated robbery like the Steelers 0:09:55.346 --> 0:09:58.466 and the Colts, And yet I talked to other fans 0:09:58.506 --> 0:10:01.186 of the Ravens and like, oh, we absolutely freaking hate 0:10:01.226 --> 0:10:03.426 the Commanders and we hate the fact that they think 0:10:03.426 --> 0:10:05.506 that there are something in our market. And there's all 0:10:05.506 --> 0:10:08.586 these geographical jerry mandering lines to it, and I'm like, 0:10:08.946 --> 0:10:10.346 I texted you last night, I'm like, can we just 0:10:10.346 --> 0:10:13.066 get to the bottom of this, Like, is this a rivalry? 0:10:13.186 --> 0:10:15.666 Is it not a rivalry? Is it a budding rivalry? 0:10:16.186 --> 0:10:19.226 Tell us where you grew up, where your fan allegiances were, 0:10:19.306 --> 0:10:21.626 and then like what to make of this being described 0:10:21.626 --> 0:10:23.426 by the Battle of the Built Way, But like they've 0:10:23.426 --> 0:10:25.826 only played seven times in franchise history. 0:10:26.386 --> 0:10:30.026 It's not a thing. It's not even a little bit 0:10:30.386 --> 0:10:32.666 of a thing. And I think there are a lot 0:10:32.706 --> 0:10:34.746 of reasons why, and for the people that are listening 0:10:34.746 --> 0:10:38.546 to this, if they're in Los Angeles or Chicago or 0:10:38.626 --> 0:10:40.746 Dallas or whatever, Like if you just look at the map. 0:10:41.266 --> 0:10:43.706 I always wondered, I don't have any insecurity about this, 0:10:43.706 --> 0:10:45.106 because I don't care if you do or you don't. 0:10:45.106 --> 0:10:47.386 But if you ask somebody out in Portland, Organ, he 0:10:47.426 --> 0:10:48.946 can you know where Maryland is on the map? Like 0:10:48.946 --> 0:10:50.466 I don't know. It's over there somewhere, like you know 0:10:50.506 --> 0:10:52.186 what I mean, Like I don't even know if we're 0:10:52.266 --> 0:10:54.986 kind of a weird shape. And there's anyway if you 0:10:55.026 --> 0:10:57.586 put pins on a map and you put Baltimore and Washington, 0:10:58.106 --> 0:11:01.106 they're real close. And so to your point, you're like, man, 0:11:02.106 --> 0:11:06.306 they got some history there. Not really, not really. And 0:11:06.546 --> 0:11:09.546 from a geographic standpoint, this area where I live, Okay, 0:11:09.586 --> 0:11:13.026 I live very close to Washington, d C. Just in 0:11:13.026 --> 0:11:15.226 the suburb outside of it. The area they call the 0:11:15.306 --> 0:11:20.146 DMV meaning District Maryland and Virginia, and it does not 0:11:20.506 --> 0:11:23.306 include Baltimore, and Baltimore is just fine with that. They're like, 0:11:23.346 --> 0:11:25.466 we don't need We're not part of that, we don't 0:11:25.506 --> 0:11:29.986 wish to be. They're their own thing. And when I 0:11:30.146 --> 0:11:32.866 was young, all right, I'm an Orioles fan. But that's 0:11:32.906 --> 0:11:35.386 because I was too young for the Senators but too 0:11:35.426 --> 0:11:39.146 old for the Nationals, and so there was no baseball here. Well, 0:11:39.186 --> 0:11:41.426 sure there was. It was in Baltimore. That was a drive. 0:11:41.946 --> 0:11:43.386 But what do I care. I'm a little kid. We 0:11:43.426 --> 0:11:46.146 go to Memorial Stadium. I was an oriol fan, still 0:11:46.226 --> 0:11:48.906 am an Oriole fan. Right, I reached a point where 0:11:49.266 --> 0:11:52.146 they were really bad, and then that's were really good. 0:11:52.346 --> 0:11:54.426 And if I wanted to, I suppose I could have 0:11:54.506 --> 0:11:56.106 just put on a new hat. But I don't know 0:11:56.146 --> 0:11:58.626 how you land with this, Peter. I'm an adult. It 0:11:58.706 --> 0:12:00.626 can't wait up one day and just put on a 0:12:00.666 --> 0:12:03.266 new hat. That's not how well this stuff works. Man. 0:12:03.906 --> 0:12:06.666 That's who you root for. I know Steve Busha, and 0:12:06.746 --> 0:12:08.266 he's joked with me. I think he might be a 0:12:08.306 --> 0:12:10.746 little bit serious. He's like, look, we got enough room 0:12:10.786 --> 0:12:11.946 for you up here if you want to, you know, 0:12:11.986 --> 0:12:14.466 switch allegiances and be a raven fan like Steeve. I 0:12:14.506 --> 0:12:17.506 admire your organization and you and how you guys do stuff. 0:12:17.826 --> 0:12:20.426 I think you're one of the model franchises. I can't 0:12:20.466 --> 0:12:25.186 do that. I gotta stay true to my team. And 0:12:25.266 --> 0:12:29.226 I think there is no Washington. I shouldn't say that. 0:12:29.866 --> 0:12:33.106 Maybe there are people, maybe this generation, because Washington people 0:12:33.146 --> 0:12:36.186 has been so bad for so long. You could have 0:12:36.306 --> 0:12:38.826 done the same thing I did with the Orioles, which 0:12:38.946 --> 0:12:40.666 is just sort of adopt that team up there. It 0:12:40.706 --> 0:12:42.026 would have been a hell of a lot easier to 0:12:42.106 --> 0:12:44.906 root for them. Recently, they've been really good and Washington 0:12:44.906 --> 0:12:47.826 has been really bad. But you made the point about 0:12:47.826 --> 0:12:51.026 how how they haven't played very often. I think Washington 0:12:51.026 --> 0:12:54.066 people feel like they don't even acknowledge Baltimore. Baltimore people 0:12:54.066 --> 0:12:55.466 probably have a little bit of like. 0:12:58.186 --> 0:13:01.346 Just one is an inferiority. But there's this like, all right, 0:13:01.426 --> 0:13:05.346 big DC shiny, we're blue collar, you know, Baltimore we 0:13:05.386 --> 0:13:06.146 work on the docks. 0:13:06.906 --> 0:13:09.506 Yes, And if Baltimore people feel like there's an there's 0:13:09.506 --> 0:13:12.986 an inferiority of complex from DC people, that's that's well, 0:13:13.146 --> 0:13:16.106 that's well earned rep. And so if Baltimore people have 0:13:16.146 --> 0:13:19.426 a little bit of rephew, I don't blame them. And 0:13:19.506 --> 0:13:21.466 that's always not kind of how I perceived it. But 0:13:21.826 --> 0:13:24.066 like I remember once as a little kid, It's a 0:13:24.066 --> 0:13:27.266 Monday night football game. It it was Colts Redskins, and there 0:13:27.346 --> 0:13:29.186 was a friend that asked me if I wanted to go, 0:13:29.226 --> 0:13:31.506 but they were Colts fans and they're like, listen, I 0:13:31.506 --> 0:13:34.546 don't wear any Redskins stuff. So I didn't and it 0:13:34.786 --> 0:13:37.666 but it wasn't like I felt some hostility or whatever else. 0:13:37.706 --> 0:13:40.106 It was just like they And that was enduring an 0:13:40.106 --> 0:13:42.906 era one when Baltimore had like Burt Jones and they 0:13:42.906 --> 0:13:44.946 were good and they were they were close, but they 0:13:44.946 --> 0:13:47.506 could never quite get over the hump. They had great 0:13:47.586 --> 0:13:50.106 Raiders teams and great Steelers teams in that era. It 0:13:50.146 --> 0:13:54.906 was hard anyway, There's there's a lot of just we 0:13:55.066 --> 0:13:57.986 keep to ourselves. You keep to yourselves, and we really don't. 0:13:58.186 --> 0:14:00.386 We don't mix much. But I think there's more to it, 0:14:00.426 --> 0:14:03.746 and I think really would have Wills down to is that. 0:14:03.906 --> 0:14:06.226 I believe the NFC East and I don't think there's 0:14:06.226 --> 0:14:08.706 an R even otherwise. It's the best division in the 0:14:08.746 --> 0:14:12.266 history of football. Every single team. Every single team has 0:14:12.426 --> 0:14:16.426 been to multiple Super Bowls. Every team has won multiple 0:14:16.466 --> 0:14:19.546 Super Bowls at least three, except for Philly, who has 0:14:19.626 --> 0:14:22.626 the one. But they've got the one. So there's enough 0:14:22.746 --> 0:14:27.506 hate Washington. People hate Dallas first, Yep, they certainly have 0:14:27.546 --> 0:14:31.426 hate for the Giants, and they the Philly thing. There's 0:14:31.626 --> 0:14:34.626 it's like, yeah, f you too. But that was never 0:14:35.026 --> 0:14:37.346 at least for me when I was little, was always Dallas, 0:14:37.386 --> 0:14:39.986 but then Washington, New York. There's plenty of hate there 0:14:40.026 --> 0:14:43.546 because rivalries, Peter have to be we take something from 0:14:43.626 --> 0:14:46.746 you that matters, and we prevent you from getting to 0:14:46.826 --> 0:14:49.386 something you want to get to. That's the only way 0:14:49.506 --> 0:14:51.506 rivalries are real. It can't just be we hate you, 0:14:52.506 --> 0:14:55.346 and do we have some inferiority complex because we wish 0:14:55.466 --> 0:14:57.466 we were you and we're not. That's not a rivalry. 0:14:57.466 --> 0:15:03.426 That's that's just hate. Rivalries are born out of Pittsburgh Baltimore. 0:15:03.866 --> 0:15:06.826 That's a rivalry and that's who Baltimore has. So I'm 0:15:06.906 --> 0:15:08.026 rambling now, but. 0:15:08.026 --> 0:15:11.266 I'm not nailed it because I'm I'm on the NFL 0:15:11.386 --> 0:15:13.346 network and we're calling it the Battle of the Beltway 0:15:13.426 --> 0:15:15.186 and we're showing these and it's like, oh, you know, 0:15:15.226 --> 0:15:18.306 geographical lines are drawn, take us through the history of it, 0:15:18.386 --> 0:15:21.586 so without dating yourself, the culture of the team. They 0:15:21.586 --> 0:15:24.506 do the Mayfiler, they move out in eighty three, the 0:15:24.546 --> 0:15:27.186 Redskins remain, they win, you know, all those Super Bowls 0:15:27.186 --> 0:15:29.586 in the time, you know, between John Riggins and then 0:15:29.626 --> 0:15:32.546 Mark Rippen and Doug Williams, and then the Ravens pop 0:15:32.666 --> 0:15:35.586 back into the scene in ninety six. So there's this 0:15:35.746 --> 0:15:39.186 like weird gap where there was no Baltimore football team, 0:15:39.226 --> 0:15:41.866 and I think an entire generation of you know, that 0:15:42.026 --> 0:15:45.386 region didn't even have to make a decision, right, No, 0:15:45.546 --> 0:15:48.386 it's true, and and that that would have been a timeframe. 0:15:48.066 --> 0:15:52.986 Where if Baltimore folks were on the mind to say, well, 0:15:53.066 --> 0:15:56.546 let's hop on board with the Redskins now commanders, Well, 0:15:56.906 --> 0:16:01.346 had it been, had that time overlapped with that decade 0:16:01.386 --> 0:16:04.066 where Washington went to four Super Bowls and won three, 0:16:04.786 --> 0:16:07.626 maybe some folks from up there might have been, but 0:16:07.706 --> 0:16:09.866 I don't think so, man. I mean this is they 0:16:09.946 --> 0:16:13.466 still have the Baltimore Colts marching band, Like, no, I didn't. 0:16:13.866 --> 0:16:16.866 They didn't. They never gave that up, And that's such 0:16:16.906 --> 0:16:19.546 am I allowed to cuts, Like, yeah, you beat me, 0:16:19.906 --> 0:16:24.106 that's such a up thing. You then got the Browns 0:16:24.266 --> 0:16:27.626 Like imagine if Washington lost the Redskins and then they 0:16:27.706 --> 0:16:30.986 got the Eagles, Like, I don't think twenty five year 0:16:30.986 --> 0:16:34.226 old people really congrasp just the depth of how messed 0:16:34.306 --> 0:16:36.746 up that is. But that's what happened. And then they 0:16:36.826 --> 0:16:41.666 name them something different. And now obviously the Ravens are again, 0:16:41.706 --> 0:16:43.626 I believe, one of the one of the really excellent 0:16:43.666 --> 0:16:46.266 franchises in the sport. But I don't think there was 0:16:46.506 --> 0:16:49.626 much bleed. I don't think there was much like sort 0:16:49.666 --> 0:16:53.186 of people didn't migrate south to root for Washington because 0:16:53.306 --> 0:16:56.786 Washington reached that point, you know, post Jack can't cook, 0:16:56.826 --> 0:16:58.986 and post all those Super Bowls where they've been kind 0:16:59.026 --> 0:17:03.746 of a drift ever since. So in the way that 0:17:03.906 --> 0:17:06.186 I was an oriole fan, I don't feel like Baltimore 0:17:06.186 --> 0:17:09.346 people ever became Washington football fans. And then they got 0:17:09.346 --> 0:17:11.866 the they got the Ravens back, and then pretty quickly 0:17:11.906 --> 0:17:15.546 they became a really an excellent franchise and they've obviously 0:17:15.546 --> 0:17:17.026 won some Super Bowls and whatever else. 0:17:17.066 --> 0:17:21.226 So having said all that, this week is really well, 0:17:21.266 --> 0:17:24.186 that's what I was gonna say, Like that takes the 0:17:24.226 --> 0:17:26.386 stinger out of like the history, but like do we 0:17:26.466 --> 0:17:29.866 need history, because let's just start now and you've got, yeah, 0:17:30.026 --> 0:17:32.346 two of the best teams in football with probably the 0:17:32.346 --> 0:17:32.826 two most. 0:17:32.826 --> 0:17:36.026 Entertaining quarterbacks in the league. It's like, don't worry about 0:17:36.026 --> 0:17:38.106 it because I've already like seen like pieces being like 0:17:38.586 --> 0:17:41.346 this market and these two teams and they're both are 0:17:41.386 --> 0:17:43.626 living within forty five and I'm like, I don't think 0:17:43.626 --> 0:17:45.546 you do the rich history of this. I think you 0:17:45.626 --> 0:17:47.986 start now and say this could be really cool over 0:17:47.986 --> 0:17:49.266 the next twenty years. 0:17:49.666 --> 0:17:54.626 You could do the rich history that's real. Washington has it. 0:17:54.626 --> 0:17:58.826 It's dusty, but it's there. Baltimore has it. It's more recent. 0:17:59.026 --> 0:18:01.546 So I mean, you could talk about franchises that have 0:18:01.906 --> 0:18:04.546 had moments of high achievement and that Baltimore is living 0:18:04.586 --> 0:18:07.186 in a time where they're feel awful close to adding 0:18:07.226 --> 0:18:10.626 to it. But the idea is that they were ever 0:18:10.666 --> 0:18:13.426 in each other's way, or ever had this game for 0:18:13.546 --> 0:18:17.426 each other, or ever played in games that were particularly meaningful. 0:18:17.706 --> 0:18:19.986 None of that's true. This week is the best game 0:18:20.026 --> 0:18:23.906 on the schedule. And the fact that Jayden, I know 0:18:24.026 --> 0:18:26.706 his favorite player is the quarterback for Baltimore. 0:18:26.786 --> 0:18:29.706 He has he downplayed it this week, but I remember 0:18:29.826 --> 0:18:32.026 all the stuff in the combine, like this guy grew 0:18:32.106 --> 0:18:34.066 up wanting to be Lamar Jack, which is pretty cool. 0:18:34.066 --> 0:18:35.026 I like that he downplayed it. 0:18:35.066 --> 0:18:38.026 Also, now what, I think that's clever. Don't don't don't 0:18:38.186 --> 0:18:40.746 don't let things be bigger than they need to be. 0:18:41.226 --> 0:18:44.626 I believe that that's a guy he has great affinity for. 0:18:44.746 --> 0:18:46.786 And by the way, why wouldn't he. Lamar is an 0:18:46.866 --> 0:18:50.266 incredible player who can He's five through five weeks, he's 0:18:50.306 --> 0:18:52.746 got better numbers than he had last year. But I 0:18:52.746 --> 0:18:54.346 thought about that the other night. I thought, you know, 0:18:54.466 --> 0:18:56.946 last year, halfway through the year, we're like who's the MVP, right, 0:18:57.026 --> 0:18:59.226 There wasn't an obvious guy. So the fact that Lamar's 0:18:59.306 --> 0:19:02.306 numbers are better, I think it's just, look, he's a 0:19:02.306 --> 0:19:05.346 great player. We all understand that. Is Jade Daniels a 0:19:05.386 --> 0:19:07.746 great player. I don't know up. I mean, we don't 0:19:07.746 --> 0:19:10.506 have to know the answer to that. But everything Peter 0:19:10.586 --> 0:19:13.106 that I was told about him in the off season 0:19:13.146 --> 0:19:15.666 by people that I know, they're within the organization, that 0:19:15.786 --> 0:19:19.626 he was a guy that commanded the room, had great confidence, 0:19:19.706 --> 0:19:23.706 but not not a hint of arrogance, just wowed everyone 0:19:23.906 --> 0:19:26.826 with how he carried himself. And that's before he played 0:19:26.826 --> 0:19:29.346 a game. I heard all that. But the easiest thing 0:19:29.346 --> 0:19:31.266 in the world to do is to sell optimism in 0:19:31.306 --> 0:19:34.026 the off season. Everybody does it. So I'm like, all right, 0:19:34.106 --> 0:19:36.026 let's see it. And then they beat the Giants. But 0:19:36.506 --> 0:19:38.586 I gave I gave Clip a bunch of I'm like, hey, 0:19:38.586 --> 0:19:40.666 how about a touchdown? How about that? And he was like, 0:19:40.746 --> 0:19:43.906 can't we got to figure some reto stuff out. Well, 0:19:43.906 --> 0:19:46.466 then they go to Cincinnati and you're like, you're gonna 0:19:46.506 --> 0:19:48.306 You're gonna trust the dude on a fourth and flour 0:19:48.386 --> 0:19:52.426 with a five point lead. Yes, You're gonna end zero 0:19:52.546 --> 0:19:54.266 and like, you dropped that out of the sky. My 0:19:54.306 --> 0:19:56.346 boy stand for Steve asked me on our part, He's like, 0:19:56.386 --> 0:19:58.306 what was more impressive the catcher to throw? I was like, 0:19:58.346 --> 0:20:01.626 the catch was thick, but he's getting blasted and throws 0:20:01.666 --> 0:20:04.706 that ball exactly in the only place that it could be. 0:20:05.226 --> 0:20:07.626 I thought that was incredible. And then he stacks another 0:20:07.666 --> 0:20:10.546 win at Arizona, which at that point I'm like, I don 0:20:10.626 --> 0:20:13.186 know what Arizona is. Well, then they go beat San Francisco, 0:20:13.306 --> 0:20:16.986 so you're like, at some point, I'm going to stop 0:20:17.146 --> 0:20:20.226 trying to diminish it and just say they've won, no doubt. 0:20:20.346 --> 0:20:22.066 They won four in a row for the first time 0:20:22.106 --> 0:20:24.586 in since two thousand and eight or something like that. 0:20:25.306 --> 0:20:28.546 But this week doesn't have to be a rivalry game. 0:20:28.706 --> 0:20:31.466