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Speaker 1: A podcast call twenty five whist stuck and they go

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Speaker 1: wearing a whist So, yeah, it's too bad, but what

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Speaker 1: did you expect? It's a podcast call twenty five whistles.

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Speaker 2: Blow the whistle? Do we ever keep track of how

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Speaker 2: many episodes we're in? Mike? Do we do that anymore?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: One million, eighty two this season?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Thank good for us.

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Speaker 2: Where's the money was rolling in? Like we've done a bunch, No.

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Speaker 4: Eighty two that's a lot.

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Speaker 5: Hey guys, yeah, everybody out there listening. If you listen

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Speaker 5: to this, would you please subscribe on our own channel

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Speaker 5: and then uh, if you don't mind, give us a

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Speaker 5: review and then anything like that would be great.

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Speaker 4: Then tell your friends right, like, oh I listen to

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Speaker 4: this podcast, you should too?

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Speaker 3: Host it man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah please yeah, drop it into the group text.

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Speaker 2: Yeah please guys, like, wait, I'll be honest, we need

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Speaker 2: to help. So yeah, thank you all for listening. I

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Speaker 2: do have an update if you're ready for an update,

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Speaker 2: I'm ready for an update on pick a ball situation.

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Speaker 2: Oh for those that are new, I post a video

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Speaker 2: on me just hitting a pickle ball and some troll

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Speaker 2: jumps up and goes you suck. I can tell you

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Speaker 2: suck because you didn't come up to the net, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, bro. Then playing a tournament, it was like

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Speaker 2: the first day back after winter, and so I'm like,

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Speaker 2: let's go, let's play the game. Me and you thousand bucks.

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Speaker 2: All did was challenge the troll and apparently he's a

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Speaker 4: Whatever, I hear you.

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Speaker 2: Whatever, I'm willing to go against a four year D

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Speaker 4: Just to try to fight a troll boom.

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Speaker 2: Because I don't like people to jump in with negativity

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Speaker 2: here's my home court. But here's the thing. I said.

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Speaker 2: We'll play for money, but I don't want to get scammed.

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Speaker 2: I've been scammed more than once with money doing content

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Speaker 2: where I'm like, here's five hundred bucks and then it's

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Speaker 2: the wrong doesn't matter. How do I get the money

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Speaker 2: to somewhere and he gets the money to somewhere, Like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting because I do.

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Speaker 2: Not want to get scammed. And I'm also just not

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Speaker 2: the whole crew, we shoot it. I stand. I've never

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Speaker 4: So if you do like a Venmo account, right, it

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter whose it is. You have a Venmo account.

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Speaker 4: It shows that the money is in there, right it does.

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Speaker 2: But who gets to know the person that has the

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Speaker 2: If I'm like, just send me the thousand bucks and

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Speaker 2: I'll hold it or one of my boys will hold it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I would trust that. And if

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Speaker 2: send it to something I have access to, that's me

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Speaker 4: And then can we trust going all the way to Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: It's somewhere in Ohio? I think it's So.

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Speaker 4: We go all the way to Ohio and he doesn't

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Speaker 2: So here's the challenge, because I want to do this,

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Speaker 3: You couldn't do like the half and half? Right, five

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what he looks like. I probably

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Speaker 2: But I also have to think about him going, I'm

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Speaker 4: It's true. I wish my dad was still alive.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: He used to deal with people from Mexico that was

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Speaker 4: That's what we would do.

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Speaker 2: So that's where we are think about it. That's number

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Speaker 2: to talk about the toush push for a second. Oh

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Speaker 2: come on, do you think they should eliminate the tush

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Speaker 3: I think there's just a lot of talk during the

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Speaker 4: At the media, and I think is like in a

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Speaker 2: Should it be banned Eddie?

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Speaker 4: No way, Jose. You do not punish a team or

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Speaker 4: is pretty much unstoppable. I think it's awesome and there's

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Speaker 4: no excuse like it's a safety issue. It wasn't a

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Speaker 4: The tush push is awesome, it's genius, and it should

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Speaker 2: Thanks soccrates. Football is a safety issue. You got it

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Speaker 4: Out of here. You hate it because you can't stop it.

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Speaker 4: Now it is frustrating. I get it. We've been on

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Speaker 4: the other side of the toush push. It's frustrating. But

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Speaker 4: as I don't know, man, they just somebody came up

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Speaker 2: Kevin, I say, no, let's not get wishy washing.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, but maybe we could tweak it. Okay, So

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Speaker 3: what about tweaking it? Like they've lined everybody up on

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Speaker 3: the line, they have two guys behind them to push them.

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Speaker 3: You're only allowed one guy behind them, and then another

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Speaker 3: guy's got to go out as wide receiver. Okay, So

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Speaker 3: you got to tweak the alignment okay, and the formation

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Speaker 3: So it makes every other team happy and still makes

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Speaker 2: Here can ask a question about that. Yeah, do we

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Speaker 2: really think that two people pushing effects it more than

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Speaker 3: No, but it's still making this GM happy and the

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Speaker 2: Yours is more of a diplomatic give than something that

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Speaker 2: would actually change the toush push.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, Yeah, and I agree with both of you,

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Speaker 2: and that the Eagles kind of discovered it. Sure did

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Speaker 2: Buffalo was number two. But then playoff Buffalo couldn'tven get

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Speaker 2: it to work five times. I think it's didn't even

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Speaker 2: I'll read you the story first from ESPN. The mystery

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Speaker 2: But the NFL's EVP of Football Operations, Troy Vincent, initially

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Speaker 2: One of those discussions might be that teams should figure

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Speaker 2: out how to defend it instead of outright banning it,

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Speaker 2: a move that Eagles coach Nick Sirianne says would be

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Speaker 2: unfair to his team from again ESPN, I'm gonna say

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Speaker 2: ban it. Ooh, and not for the reasons that you

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Speaker 2: the Eagles came up with something nobody can stop it.

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Speaker 2: You got it, buddy. It's terribly boring for television, and

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Speaker 2: I'm always a this is a television show because that's

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Speaker 2: just playing it wasn't on TV.

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Speaker 4: Great.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Eagles cheated. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: great idea, but it's boring to watch because there really

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Speaker 2: is no drama on a fourth and one when the

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Speaker 2: Eagles have the ball. So I think it was wildly smart.

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Speaker 2: But if I'm only speaking selfishly and as a network

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Speaker 2: probably am not allowing it unless there are certain things

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Speaker 2: like you can only tush push inside the five, like

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Speaker 2: I think there are modifications that you can make the

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Speaker 2: tush push inside the five, or you get two tush

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Speaker 2: pushes a game like challenges like in my Madden League

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Speaker 2: that we play in because the quarterback sneak it's kind

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Speaker 2: of a glitch where you can get it to work

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Speaker 2: almost every time for two yards. It's not even the tushpush.

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Speaker 2: You just quarterback sneak. You know you're gonna get two yards.

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Speaker 2: We can only quarterbacks sneak twice a game in a

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Speaker 2: user game we're playing another player. If we're playing the computer,

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Speaker 2: we do it all day. But we can only quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: sneak twice a game because it's a bit of a glitch.

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Speaker 2: But I would say the Eagles toushbush is a bit

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Speaker 2: of a glitch. They figured it out. So for television

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Speaker 2: But if I'm not compromising, I'm just going no tush

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's boring. But you know what's not boring

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Speaker 2: That's boring. If somebody's hiring a physics the football, that's boring, dude.

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Speaker 4: But if they stop it, all right.

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Speaker 2: But they can't, nobody can.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a physics thing. I don't think so, no,

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Speaker 4: Then maybe, like you get all of your linemen on

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Speaker 2: Can't do that unless you're substitute. Like they can't substitute

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Speaker 4: Really didn't know that I changed that, then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah's that rule. I think it's hilarious. I love the

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Speaker 2: And so the NFL does not want people to be

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Speaker 3: Sure, it is a matter of time. You would think

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Speaker 2: And it well, and remember two years ago, you couldn't

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Speaker 2: you could push them, grab them, you couldn't pull. That

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Speaker 2: It's just a quarterback sneak. But then it's just a

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go ban it because I'm bored by it.

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Speaker 2: Next up Gronk maybe coming back to the NFL.

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Speaker 4: No stop it. He can't. He looks like.

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Speaker 3: He sees Travis Kelsey's like I can do.

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Speaker 4: He looks like broken down RoboCop, like his last season

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Speaker 3: He always looked like that though when he was younger.

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Speaker 2: He's only thirty five. Well, yeah, that's great, and that's

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Speaker 2: three and he is a monster. A new report suggests

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Speaker 2: that future Hall of Fame tied end Rob Gronkowski may

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Speaker 2: from retirement. These same sources say that Gronk has liked

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Speaker 2: what he's seen from Broncos quarterback Bo Nicks, and also

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Speaker 2: you're gonna go play at somebody who gives you a

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Speaker 2: I think that would be extremely hard for him to do,

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Speaker 2: being out of the league for so long. Yeah, when

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Speaker 2: you're known for being such a physical player, it's probably

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Speaker 3: No did his body. I mean it took a toll

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Speaker 3: towards the end was like one hit will be like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm good on this.

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Speaker 2: Actually I don't know, dude, he's huge.

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Speaker 3: He is a monster.

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Speaker 4: You met him? No, did we see him at the

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Speaker 4: don't know any of us ever saw him. I never

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying you didn't seehim a person, you

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Speaker 2: because I was saying, is he mass. I have a

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Speaker 3: I sent her a video Yeah, like cameo or my.

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Speaker 2: Friend that's friends with Gronk was like, hey, Gronk's sister

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Speaker 4: That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: I know it's not the same. But we saw Jimmy Graham.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when when you when those guys look big on

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Speaker 4: Do you remember him.

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Speaker 2: in that he was big, and oh my god, she

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Speaker 2: was huge, angry. Yeah, but he I don't think he

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Speaker 4: No, no, he's not as tall as Whitworth. Whitworth was

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Speaker 4: like you can see him in a sea of people

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Speaker 2: He okay, get this, he's three hundred and thirty one pounds.

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Speaker 4: Boy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then six seven to he's got to be

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Speaker 2: at least yeah, he's got he's six seven six seven

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Speaker 2: three point thirty. That's like Gladiator. That's like back in

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Speaker 2: They ranked the best dunkers in NBA history. Now I've

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Speaker 2: seen the list, so unfair, but I think I can do.

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Speaker 2: Had I not seen the list, I can give you

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Speaker 2: I would have picked people like Spud Weeb. He won

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was like in a big Sports illustrated

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Speaker 2: it slam dunk contest obviously. I had to pick Michael

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Speaker 2: dunked a lot, but he has some really famous and

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Speaker 2: his logo is a dunk.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it is the Jumpman's a dunk.

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Speaker 2: No, right, that picture didn't come from him dunking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but Hugh did it at some point I remember,

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Speaker 4: like maybe he recreated or something, maybe during a slam

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Speaker 2: And the picture was not him dunking. It was just

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Speaker 2: yet Mike, would you mind looking that up?

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Speaker 4: Or or could it be a celebration, like you know

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Speaker 2: I feel like it was something contrived and set up,

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Speaker 2: but it wasn't a dunk Michael find it. Oh we'll

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Speaker 2: didn't even dunk until like forty years ago, like in

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Speaker 2: the early black and white days. He had a couple

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Speaker 2: and that was like crazy. It was all like white

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Speaker 2: comes to you guys's mind, is this one's one I

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Speaker 2: should have got?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Uh have you seen the list?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 4: I haven't.

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Speaker 3: The first person that pops in my mind who wanted

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Speaker 2: That's exactly who I saw. Was like, how did I

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And then because Vince Carter dunked all the time on

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Speaker 3: Had like the greatest dunk contest of all time. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: in my memory.

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Speaker 4: At least more than better than mclung.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's no car.

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Speaker 4: Involved, there was no.

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Speaker 2: Three pt Mike what'd you find. Yeah, it was just

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Speaker 6: And they were taking a picture and he's like, I'm

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Speaker 2: Good, fine, good, fine, good fine, Okay. Vince Carter on

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Speaker 2: the list. Sean Kemp, great call, did make the list.

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Speaker 2: Hard dunker like that Mother Africa dunks with Sean Eddie.

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Speaker 4: Uh, Mailman karme alone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he could he mean he could dunk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember I had a poster where he was

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Speaker 4: dunk in this cier is not.

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Speaker 2: Not on not on the list. List is bro Bible

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Speaker 2: on a bunch people that had contributed to it not

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Speaker 2: saying you're wrong, Hey he could dunk.

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Speaker 4: Man, he could dunk, you know.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Another one.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking kind of underrated in his game because he's

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Speaker 3: there's down some good ones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kobe did not make the list. Uh, this is

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Speaker 3: it was nasty.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was all dunked, all time. Yeah, like I

439
00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,200
Speaker 2: would have missed that one and then I would have

440
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,440
Speaker 2: hated myself for it. Okay, anybody else?

441
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Speaker 3: How many do we have?

442
00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,520
Speaker 2: Left a lot too? And I'll say this, one of

443
00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,440
Speaker 2: them still plays. Two of them are in our lifetime

444
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,960
Speaker 2: of watching basketball, and one is not so go old

445
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,639
Speaker 2: old school, old old. We never watched your Jay, correct,

446
00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:20,200
Speaker 2: Julia Servin, that's good, Kevin three left one one plays

447
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:26,959
Speaker 2: right now, John Marin. Oh, that's a good one though,

448
00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 2: because that dude flies out of everywhere. He's so fast

449
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 2: and he dunks on people all sizes.

450
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,120
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

451
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 2: Russell Westburg go more more famous, way more famous? Oh, Lebron, Yes, yeah.

452
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:46,920
Speaker 4: We're so dumb.

453
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 3: We're thinking too much.

454
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:48,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

455
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,640
Speaker 2: The other two, I don't think you're going to get

456
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 2: just by guessing. I'll say one of them a very

457
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 2: famous Phoenix son, not Charles Barkley, a very famous Phoenix son.

458
00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 2: We saw and Nick and Nick maristmar yes, Maricenemer he

459
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,199
Speaker 2: was awesome. Yeah, he was awesome. And the other one

460
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 2: Jason Richardson, Oh yeah, Jay.

461
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 3: Richards Oh you know Richard did he played for Golden State.

462
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 2: He was bouncing, he bounced around Golden State, was I

463
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 2: wondered who he thought, who you saw him playing with,

464
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 2: because I thought Golden State too.

465
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I affiliated. But I know he bounced around.

466
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, everybody feel good about that. Yeah, we got

467
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Speaker 2: a guest coming up in a second. We like talking

468
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Speaker 2: college basketball, and he's been losing a lot of money

469
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Speaker 2: in college basketball.

470
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Speaker 4: Actually, I made some good money on Florida the other

471
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:42,360
Speaker 4: night that Florida was down. Uh, they were playing Georgia,

472
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 4: which George is a little sneaky team.

473
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Speaker 2: Man, Georgia. Yeah, but they kind of sucked, but they Okay,

474
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,160
Speaker 2: Sneaky's a good point because they can't win a game.

475
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 2: But they're not gonna win a lot of games.

476
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Speaker 4: There are a handfuls of sneaky teams, which I love.

477
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 4: At this time of the year, I'm like starting to

478
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Speaker 4: collect my little notes.

479
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,679
Speaker 2: Of like, watch they're not making the tournament though, well Georgia, but.

480
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 4: Just because they're in the SEC. Probably, But you know,

481
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 4: like Texas A and M. Sneaky team, good sneaky team.

482
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 4: I next this A and M.

483
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Speaker 2: They don't play offense. I mean they do, they have to,

484
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 2: but they beat people up defensively where that hurts you

485
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 2: in the tournament though, is if you can't play offense. Yeah,

486
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 2: and the refs are very consistent in the tournament because

487
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,199
Speaker 2: they are great at every game to see if they

488
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Speaker 2: get to move on to the next game. So there's

489
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Speaker 2: no hey, we're going to play it this way tonight,

490
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Speaker 2: which kind of happens around the country in different leagues

491
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Speaker 2: and by different refs. They know they're getting great to

492
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Speaker 2: go to the next game. So if you're a great

493
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 2: defensive team, that helps. But if you have no offense

494
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: at times because of how they're calling the game, you

495
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 2: can really get yourself in trouble. I've watched too much SEC.

496
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 2: I can like break down all the times. I'm sorry interrupt,

497
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Speaker 2: I'm ahead, No, it's good.

498
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Speaker 4: But anyway, Florida was playing Georgia and they were down

499
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Speaker 4: by twenty points. So I was like, come on, this

500
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Speaker 4: cannot in this way. So I got them at plus ten,

501
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 4: plus eight, plus five. It was one of those games

502
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Speaker 4: you know where I'm like, I gotta just keep going,

503
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 4: keep going, keep going. And they lost by four points.

504
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 2: So you hit that.

505
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Speaker 4: I hit all three of them. I'm like, let's go.

506
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Speaker 2: By ribbon to something on Instagram that I wanted to

507
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 2: bring up and that's how I save a lot of

508
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 2: my stuff. Now is I ribbon it?

509
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 7: Mike?

510
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: How do I find my ribbons? Instagram has changed.

511
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 6: Should be able to go to your bookmarks and your profile?

512
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 4: Oh was that what? The ribbon is a bookmark? That

513
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Speaker 4: makes sense?

514
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know what he was talking about.

515
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 2: The first the three.

516
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 6: Dots on the side on the top right of your profile.

517
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Speaker 2: I so the three slashes, now, yeah, the slashes. Okay,

518
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: settings and activity. We're gonna do this together, and you

519
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Speaker 2: should see the saved boom, got it? Thank you? That's

520
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: where it is.

521
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Speaker 4: What are you looking for?

522
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: I had saved this thing that DraftKings had done. It

523
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: was AI predicts where these free agents will end up.

524
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: So number one, T Higgins. This is AI that that predicted.

525
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 2: They typed all this crap in and gave all the scenarios. Uh,

526
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:52,479
Speaker 2: T Higgins to the Carolina Panthers. But that'd be about money, right,

527
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: because if the Bengals don't because they have Burrow, they're

528
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Speaker 2: paying him a ton. They have three other players and

529
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Speaker 2: that's four they're going to do four with basically max contracts,

530
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: two wide receivers obviously one edge and they said they

531
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Speaker 2: may have to with Higgins do the one year franchise,

532
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Speaker 2: franchise tag him and he doesn't want to be tagged,

533
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Speaker 2: So they say the Panthers Digs to the.

534
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Speaker 4: Cowboys Stefan with a B.

535
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Speaker 2: That'd be cool, that would together, that would be cool.

536
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 4: This is a I too, by the way.

537
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Speaker 2: They Cooper Cup to the Chargers. That'd be easy. Yeah,

538
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: stay done, you got to move stays there, Amari Cooper

539
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 2: to the Ravens. They could use him. Yeah, I feel

540
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: like he'd be better though there too, because the Cowboys suck.

541
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Speaker 4: He wasn't with the Cowboys.

542
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: He was with when he was though. Yeah, Yeah, that's

543
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: the last time I saw him play consistently put Browns.

544
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 2: The Browns didn't counted on the bills he didn't and

545
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Speaker 2: the Browns didn't count because they would have a quarterback.

546
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

547
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 2: So like, I feel like the last time I saw

548
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Speaker 2: him have a chance with the Cowboys and they didn't.

549
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 2: They sucked. No offense, dude. Keenan Allen to the Chiefs.

550
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, he just gets hurt.

551
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: Debo to the Steelers. Oh Man, Chris god one of

552
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: the Jaguars. Devanta Adams to the Lions. Yeah, if I'm

553
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 2: Devanta Adams. I'd like that.

554
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 4: That awesome.

555
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you want to do quarterbacks real quick? This

556
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 2: is not AI, this is US. Where will they end up?

557
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: Where will they end up? Let's go fear with the

558
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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford. He wants fifty million bucks. Rams are like,

559
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Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna give it to you, Matthew Stafford.

560
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Stafford ends up. So I think it's

561
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Speaker 2: Giants or Raiders. I think Giants are probably the leader

562
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Speaker 2: right now, with the Raiders being number two out of

563
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Speaker 2: the Rams. I'm not going to pay fifty million.

564
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Speaker 4: Bucks, and who needs a quarterback? So Giants, Giants, and

565
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Speaker 4: the Raiders.

566
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Speaker 2: I think the other teams aren't going to pay fifty

567
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 2: million bucks though. So I think those are the two options.

568
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 2: Two options that will pay him. Trade a decent draft pick,

569
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Speaker 2: because it's not we're just gonna take him and pay him.

570
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: It's you got to pay him if you get him,

571
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: because he wants longer than a one year deal. Yeah,

572
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: so it's what pick can you give up? I think

573
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 2: the Raiders have six and the Giants have maybe two

574
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: or three. Yeah, so you're gonna probably trade. That's what

575
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 2: the hope is that first round pick. I can't see

576
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 2: anybody trading that pick. Maybe a second and third rounder,

577
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: but I think Stafford's probably a giant.

578
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would go to the Giants. That's all I

579
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Speaker 3: was gonna say.

580
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 2: Outside shot a Raider. Kirk Cousins, Tennessee, I'm gonna say,

581
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: I want to say Cleveland. Stefanski was his play caller

582
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: in Minnesota, and Kirk Cousins can do what we just

583
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: saw happen from Denver to Pittsburgh with Russ Wilson, where

584
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: Russ was guaranteed all the money, so he took the

585
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Speaker 2: minimum to go to Pittsburgh so it didn't hit their

586
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: cap at all. And because the Browns, oh massage man

587
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: ninety million bucks or whatever this son, Yeah, they can

588
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: take Cousins minimally. He still gets his money if he's

589
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: not staying. A backup they're now saying. The Falcons are

590
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: still saying the backup.

591
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way.

592
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: If he stays, they can pay him ninety million in

593
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: one year or fifty for two, or they can figure

594
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 2: out how to trade him. And if they figure out

595
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: to trade him to Cleveland, that also maybe gets Miles

596
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: Garrett to stay, because Miles Garrett's like, I'm out of here.

597
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: We're not even trying. And he can go for a

598
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: few hundred thousand bucks and still make all the same

599
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: money because of what he's owed in Atlanta, and he

600
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 2: has a relationship with Stefanski. So that's my pick.

601
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Speaker 3: It's pretty good pick, though, I was gonna say, you're

602
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 3: pretty in depth. I mean, I just said the Titans random.

603
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: Guess Aaron Rodgers that's home, like he's going home. I'm

604
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: gonna pick the Rams if Stafford leaves. And if Stafford

605
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 2: goes somewhere and they get some decent picks, I think

606
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: they probably draft their next quarterback. And Aaron Rodgers is

607
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 2: there for a year maybe two, and that's the system,

608
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: he'd probably do really well. And because everybody does, so

609
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the Rams. If Stafford isn't there, I

610
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: don't know what the Titan's gonna do. I hope the

611
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: Titans don't bring Rogers here. So if Stafford doesn't leave,

612
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 2: then where's Rogers go? Prie the Titans? But that's annoying

613
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 2: for us.

614
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and why would you want to come here just

615
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 3: to play house?

616
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 4: He's got a house here.

617
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 2: He's not gonna like you guys, don't worry.

618
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:16,239
Speaker 4: I got a house.

619
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: We're good to know the yard. Dude, stay there, Stay there,

620
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: You're not gonna do anything else. Stay there. We're all good.

621
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Speaker 2: Other quarterbacks that can be moving around? Can you think

622
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 2: of any other ones?

623
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Speaker 7: Oh?

624
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: Sam Donald?

625
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, are the Seahawks gonna keep Gino?

626
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

627
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: What about the Steelers?

628
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: So Rogers to the Steelers is also a thing though, Yeah,

629
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: but I have not heard Donald to the Steelers at all.

630
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: So Donald could really end up back in Minnesota. Probably not, though,

631
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 2: because I don't think they're gonna pay him, especially because

632
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: we talked to Kevin O'Connell the other not ours, but

633
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 2: the head coach, and just hearing him talk was like, Hey,

634
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: we're gonna let him see what his value is to me.

635
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: That's we're gonna probably lose him. Yeah, I mean I

636
00:27:59,640 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: think the.

637
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: For Darnald, we're still right. Yeah, the Raiders would be.

638
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: Good if Stafford doesn't go there. I think you have

639
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: a couple of pieces of their affecting other pieces. But

640
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: I think the Raiders is good. Okay, Uh interview coming

641
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: up in a second. Let's get into our conversation with

642
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: Grant McCasland, head basketball coach at Texas Tech. You know,

643
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: I oddly like all Texas Tech teams. There's no reason

644
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: for me to dislike them, but I think I like

645
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: Texas Tech because I'm an Arkansas fan. Now that doesn't

646
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: mean all Arkansas fans like Texas Tech specifically, but Texas

647
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: Tech is like the school that's kind of got a

648
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: grind in that state, meaning you got Ut, you got

649
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: Texas A and m Man, you got a lot of

650
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: big Texas schools, and I feel like Texas Tech is

651
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: like not so much in the shadow, but like they're

652
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: always like I gotta punch at stra hard for people

653
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: to pay attention, and that's what I feel like we

654
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: have to do at Arkansas. So like I generally have

655
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 2: a positive feeling towards Texas Tech athletics for that reason.

656
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: Love football coach, loved this basketball coach. I mean Grant McCaslin.

657
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: He has been a winner before taking over in Lubbock.

658
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: He led North Texas to an NIT championship at twenty

659
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: twenty three and their first ever NCUBA Tournament win. Massive

660
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: deal in North Texas through ten seasons as an NCAA

661
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: head coach, mccastlin's now two hundred and thirty four and

662
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: one hundred, and he's won seventy eight and eighty eight

663
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: at the Division one level. I mean, just some fun facts.

664
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty Conference USA Coach of the Year, three

665
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: straight Conference USA championships, over seven hundred career winning percentage.

666
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: I could go on and on. This year, Texas Tech

667
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: kind of rocking. Twenty one and seven. Right now, they're

668
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: third in the Big twelve. They're playing Kansas on Saturday.

669
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: Then they finished with Colorado and at Arizona State. Lenardi

670
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: has at a two, like a bottom two or an

671
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: early three right now in the bracket. But I love

672
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: this dude. I liked them until we talked with them,

673
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: and then I'm like, I'm in I'm in here. He

674
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: is my new friend. Coach Grant mccaslan. Hey, coach, that's

675
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: a pretty sick hoodie you have on. By the way,

676
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: that's a good one.

677
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 7: You want one, Yeah, I'll send you one.

678
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: Oh, he's a shameless coach.

679
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: No, No, that Melbourne.

680
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 7: When you got a little best you got a little.

681
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: Got a little Malbourne card again. You play golf too?

682
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: What's going on? Coach man?

683
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 7: I'll hit I'll hit a ball in the woods.

684
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, So okay, that's funny. What do you get to

685
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: do during basketball season? I'm sure it's all basketball all

686
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: the time. Do you have time to read books? Like?

687
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: What in the world can you do during basketball season?

688
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 7: Man, good question. I do a lot of things with

689
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 7: my family.

690
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 8: I got I got four kids, so I got two

691
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 8: boys to play hoops, soda rock climbs, and we we

692
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 8: have a simulator at the Alice. We built a basketball

693
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 8: bar and it's got two big a ball courts, a

694
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 8: climbing all, and a little golf sem area. So we

695
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 8: turned it loose at night every once in a while

696
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 8: in between some film sessions.

697
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 7: Are you a little family?

698
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 8: Got a little My wife played soccer here at Tech,

699
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 8: so we'll play a little pick a ball.

700
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna ask. If you're you're a

701
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: pickle ball player.

702
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 4: We have a court.

703
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: We just built a court here at the house. And

704
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: this guy from Ohio I posted a video coach on Twitter.

705
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: It was just me hitting the ball. I got metaglasses,

706
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: so like I was just literally recording game tape, like right,

707
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: I like to watch see how I'm improving. And so

708
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: some guy like trolled me on Twitter and was like

709
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: you suck and I was like, I'll play you for

710
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: a thousand bucks. Never didn't even know who he was,

711
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: and he was like, I'm in So now I got

712
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: a flight Ohio and play some dude I never met.

713
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: He was a four year D one athlete for a

714
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: thousand dollars in pickleball. So but I got like a

715
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: weird competitive like insecurity, like growing up? How competitive were you?

716
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: Where did that come from?

717
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 7: Oh?

718
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 8: I'm a mess as a competitor. You know that you

719
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 8: do these personality tests and I don't even know which

720
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 8: one it was.

721
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 7: But you have to rank like your four.

722
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 8: It comes back after you get done to answering all

723
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 8: these questions.

724
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: It gives you, like.

725
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 7: Your four main characteristics.

726
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 8: And my number one was competitive and number two is

727
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 8: like belief and I'm telling you it's awesome and everything.

728
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: But marriage, Oh, you're so right. And I've only been

729
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: married losing marriage, yes, like three years, so I'm pretty

730
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: new to being married. But you are speaking the gospel

731
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 2: like it's like the young Gospel to me right now,

732
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: where I'm just learning that that's true, that it's not

733
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: always about winning. At times you can lose but still

734
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 2: strategically win, which is probably not the best thing. But

735
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: you're talking my language now.

736
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 7: No. The the true is the only way to really

737
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 7: win in marriage is to lose.

738
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 8: That's it, there is like, that is the end. No,

739
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 8: don't even try to even say you can win some

740
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 8: and still win.

741
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 7: No, it's zero.

742
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: It's you lose, then you win. I'm curious basketball wise, coach,

743
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: because you're a defensive genius. I feel just looking at

744
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: as you've risen through the ranks of look at how

745
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: good your defensive squads are. Is there the option to

746
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: be great at both? Like, because again, you're a defensive guy.

747
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: Your team is built and I could be wrong, but

748
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: I feel like you are Let's play defense hard and

749
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: then the offense will happen. But is it possible to

750
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: specialize in both at the same time?

751
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely. You know.

752
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 8: The truth is as a young coach, when I was

753
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 8: twenty six years old and got the opportunity to be

754
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 8: a junior college head coach, we were in a conference

755
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 8: with Mark Adams, who was the previous head coach at

756
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 8: Texas Tech, who's a dear friend of mine, and in

757
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 8: the rankings of all the past twenty five years of

758
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 8: defenses that Texas Tech team in twenty nineteen here is

759
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 8: statistically the best defensive team ever in the last twenty

760
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 8: five years of college basketball. So, but he was actually

761
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 8: the head coach at Howard College when I was twenty six,

762
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 8: and the head coach at Midland College, so I coached

763
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 8: against it.

764
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 7: One game we had fourteen points at the half.

765
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: Playing against his defense.

766
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 8: So honestly, my mind thinks, but I've I learned from

767
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 8: him that you better be great defensively if you want

768
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 8: to win. So we want a junior college national championship.

769
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 8: The first time, we scored over ninety points and averaged

770
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 8: over eighty points.

771
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 7: So honestly, my mind thinks offense.

772
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 8: But I'm such a competitor and I want to win

773
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 8: that I've focused on the defensive part of it because

774
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 8: I think that's something that's more controllable in the environment

775
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 8: of winning a game.

776
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 4: Coach, how how upset do you get when your players

777
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 4: miss free throws? Because I know as a viewer I

778
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: hate it.

779
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I don't get upset at all. Actually I

780
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 7: don't care.

781
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, right, Let's where that's where fans are different than coaches,

782
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 8: because you don't really care. That's an effort thing that

783
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 8: you want to have a guy miss try to let

784
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 8: him squeeze that basketball really tight, and worried about what

785
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 8: you think too. I mean, it's just I think there's

786
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 8: a I think there's a balance to it. But it

787
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 8: is funny because last year at Texas Tech, we had

788
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 8: the best free throw percentage in the history of the school. Okay,

789
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 8: And I didn't talk to our guys about free throws

790
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 8: one time.

791
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 7: You know what I did.

792
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 8: I recruited really good shooters so they could make it

793
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 8: when it mattered. And honestly, there is a repetition and

794
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 8: I do think there's some skill obviously involved in it.

795
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 8: But when you get to college, man, if you mess

796
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 8: with somebody shots, that's a personal thing for them and

797
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 8: it's a difficult thing to change. And you know, it

798
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 8: is funny because I do think it's more about confidence

799
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 8: and repetition and feeling like you can step up there.

800
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 7: But man, do people get mad at free throws?

801
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 8: I mean, they're free why don't you make them? You know,

802
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 8: I'm like, well, because there's fifteen thousand people in here

803
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 8: yelling and everybody's watching them.

804
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 7: It's not the same. Now.

805
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: I was watching Arkansas on Texas last night. I hate

806
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: Texas with all my heart, Like I wish Texas would

807
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: fall in a whole coach and I'm an Arkansas guy.

808
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 2: But we were missing. We were missing free throws like

809
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: we always miss free throws. But I never thought that

810
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: you should just recruit good free throw shooters more so

811
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: than spend twenty minutes into practice shooting free throws.

812
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 8: Well you know this, Like there are some repetition things

813
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 8: that I do think make it more repeatable, which are

814
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 8: when you get under pressure, make it simpler for a

815
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 8: person to control the variables. I mean, the less movement

816
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 8: the better in regards to efficiency. But I do think

817
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 8: it's way more like mental than it is physical in

818
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 8: a lot of ways. And the repetition of guys that

819
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 8: have always seen them go in all their lives, there

820
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 8: is something to that that gives them a different level

821
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 8: of confidence when they step up to the free throw line.

822
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 8: And now I've coached guys where it's gone the other

823
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 8: way too, where they went from being like seventy to

824
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 8: like really bad. And what they did is they tried

825
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 8: to go in and obsess over some detail to fix

826
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 8: and their free throw shot and lost the connection to

827
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 8: the confidence and flow of like being in the moment

828
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 8: and being confident. It's a wild battle, and when it

829
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 8: goes downhill, I mean, it's like a lot of things

830
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 8: in golf for other things that are repetitive in nature,

831
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 8: and can it can get worse. But that's where I

832
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 8: don't even We put guys in routines and we allow

833
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 8: them the space to make improvements specifically, but man, I

834
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 8: don't mess with that.

835
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: How much do you put into like Lonardi putting you

836
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: guys in certain places right now? Two seed? I think

837
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 2: I just saw, oh nothing.

838
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't mean that in disrespect to the

839
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 8: people that make those decisions, but you and I both know.

840
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 8: I mean, we've got three conference games and then plus

841
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 8: the conference tournament, and man, so many things change and

842
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 8: the uncontrollables.

843
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 7: I'm out of that game.

844
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 8: When I was a junior college coach at twenty seven,

845
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 8: our second season, we had a path to maybe win

846
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 8: the tournament.

847
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 7: So I went through and like said, like, if we.

848
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 8: Win this game, then we can be a two seed

849
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 8: in the tournament if we win these three games. And

850
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 8: what happens if we win these four And I spent

851
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 8: all this time doing all this math, and then you

852
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 8: get to the end of the season, Like, I realized

853
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 8: every second that I spent trying to figure out where

854
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 8: they had us was two or three seconds that I

855
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 8: could have invested in a relationship with someone that actually

856
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 8: would have made an impact on winning. And so man,

857
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 8: I just flipped this whole thing in my brain of like,

858
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 8: anytime there's a where do someone or what do I

859
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 8: think could happen? I just like, well, let's invent and

860
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 8: what actually does happen, which is people and relationships and

861
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 8: their impact on what we're doing as a team. And

862
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 8: it's changed my perspective and of all of the thought

863
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 8: process in regard to where they put people in the

864
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 8: NCAA tournament and projections.

865
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: With this part of the year, where's the balance in

866
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: keeping players healthy and fresh and also keeping them in rhythm?

867
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I and my experience, what we do

868
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 8: right now is we push the throttle down at the

869
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 8: beginning of practice and we'll start with a super competitive

870
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 8: segment of like pressing, because you get to the end

871
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 8: of games and that's what really matters. And we try

872
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 8: to like rev it all the way up and get

873
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 8: a transition drill going and then make it real competitive

874
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 8: at the beginning of practice and then we taper it

875
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 8: off and then at the end is like mentally, how

876
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 8: do you execute? But nothing competitive because what we found

877
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 8: is guys get hurt, you know, kind of more when

878
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 8: they get fatigued at the end of than they do

879
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 8: at the beginning.

880
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 7: So I still think you got a practice.

881
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 8: And if you asked me one thing that I talked

882
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 8: to all my buddies coaching, like Scott Drew and you know,

883
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 8: Tommy Lloyd at Arizona and Ben McCollum at Drake and

884
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 8: Ross Hodge at North Texas and Scott you know, just

885
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 8: we all talk about like how do you make it

886
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 8: competitive but you don't want to get anybody hurt.

887
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 7: But I do think there's a.

888
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 8: Way to rev it all the way up where you

889
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 8: still get that competitiveness and you can still put the

890
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 8: throttle all the way down and get what you need

891
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 8: but not not put anybody in harms away.

892
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: Are there any heat check rules where if somebody's on coaching,

893
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: there two, three, four in a row where it's like

894
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: understood taking another one, Like, are there any heat check

895
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 2: rules at all?

896
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 7: Oh? I mean, if you say rules, there's like heat

897
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 7: check for me.

898
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 8: I just love it when guys feel like Chance McMillan

899
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 8: made one the other day at home where he shot

900
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 8: it and turned around and went the other way, and honestly, like,

901
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 8: would I prefer him to not do that on all shots? Yes,

902
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 8: but when you are playing with a different level of confidence,

903
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 8: that means we're playing at our best. And so, man,

904
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 8: we love shooting threes. We shot thirty the other day

905
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 8: and didn't make many of them. But I do think

906
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 8: that there's a confidence level that your players have to

907
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 8: play with on that side where once you get rolling, let's.

908
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 7: Let it rip.

909
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 4: Coach, what's your relationship with referees? Like, sometimes it's very

910
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 4: you know, will you explain that call to me? And

911
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 4: then sometimes it's like what are you thinking? Do you

912
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 4: know all these guys right? So what's your relationship with them?

913
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 8: Man, I'll tell you what I pray often, but I

914
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 8: pray mostly about my relationships with refs and my wife.

915
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know how to explain it, but

916
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 8: it's this wild part of the game that you know

917
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 8: that the outcome isn't supposed to matter to them, but

918
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 8: they impact the outcome so significantly by the flow and

919
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 8: feel of it. And I'm confrontational in nature, so I

920
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 8: don't mind the confrontation of communicating with him, but I

921
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 8: don't think it's helpful. I got to be honest, I

922
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 8: end up airing on the side, and you get to

923
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 8: the end that I wish I would have said less.

924
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 7: And so in my.

925
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 8: Areas of improvement, that usually ends up being one of

926
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 8: the more significant ones is how do you communicate in

927
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 8: a way that's respectful but doesn't imply that they're not

928
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 8: doing a great job honestly, And so I found more

929
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 8: of that to be helpful.

930
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 7: But I can't always do that in the moment.

931
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: What if, like your counterpart is going to town on

932
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: a ref, do you feel like you got to step

933
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: it up and meet him with that energy? Though so

934
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 2: he doesn't like rule the refs.

935
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 8: You know, there's two parts that because you know you

936
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 8: can look at those refs and go like, if this

937
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 8: guy says one more thing, it's going to get significantly

938
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 8: worse for him, and you know the difference between that,

939
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 8: and then when you look at the guy and he

940
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 8: seems fras by what's being said by the other coach,

941
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 8: and then you know like, well you better, you better

942
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 8: get a little part of this so that he doesn't

943
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 8: just get in a place where he's making calls that

944
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 8: don't necessarily help. So I do think there's some nuance

945
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 8: maybe to that, but for the most part, the interactions

946
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 8: in regards to that. You know, the difference between somebody

947
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 8: that complains a lot in our league and these referees

948
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 8: talk and they do know going into each game, like

949
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 8: there's something different about someone that shows constant respect and

950
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 8: asks questions and does want to understand that refs make

951
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 8: mistakes too. And I do think that there's a part

952
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 8: of that that there's a sincerity there that most of

953
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 8: the guys that I work with, they're they're they're awesome,

954
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 8: And I do think that there. It's a difficult job

955
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 8: and and most when I look back on film, some

956
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 8: of the calls that I complain about, now we have

957
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 8: them on the bench.

958
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 7: We used to not have this.

959
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 8: Literally, we have access to every call every second when

960
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 8: we watch it. We can we can pull it up

961
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 8: in time out and queue everything, and I can watch it,

962
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 8: and I watch most plays at halftime of the game,

963
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 8: so I have.

964
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 7: A better perspective.

965
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 8: But I used to look back on it and go, man,

966
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 8: I thought for sure that was a foul, and it

967
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 8: wasn't one. So I think given the benefit of the

968
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 8: doubt over the course of the game and trying to

969
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 8: be somebody that's man just in a real way, trying

970
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 8: to understand what the game is really being called like

971
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 8: and trying to do your best to adapt is the

972
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 8: best way to do it.

973
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: Is there peaking too early? And where do you guys

974
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: feel like you are in the peaking scale?

975
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 8: Yes, there is in regards to I think a fatigue

976
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 8: of your team when you kind of know all your

977
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 8: weaknesses and those have been magnified, and I think that's

978
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 8: when your team takes that dive. And I think as

979
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 8: a coach, our hope is to find this real gratitude

980
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 8: and belief in each other where you can concentrate. I'll

981
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 8: give you an example, like you can watch film with

982
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 8: the team and you can show them all fifteen turnovers

983
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 8: of what happened, and you can magnify those things. And

984
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 8: I think at the end of the season, how you

985
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 8: really peek as you start showing only the plays that

986
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 8: you know that one that can be catastrophic in nature

987
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 8: and that your team is repeating. You show those, but

988
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 8: really you try to show all the things that you

989
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 8: want your team to do and those guys that honestly

990
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 8: get encouraged that way.

991
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 7: It shows them more as highlighted and.

992
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 8: People want to do what you want them to do

993
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 8: more than you telling them what not to do.

994
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 7: And I think the season's long for everybody.

995
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 8: So when you get to the end of the year,

996
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 8: those people have been told like, don't do that, don't

997
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 8: do that, You're.

998
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 7: Messing this up.

999
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 8: You can see, you can see the decline and it

1000
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 8: wears on everybody because it is a long season. You're

1001
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 8: around each other all the time, and there are all

1002
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 8: these pressure moments and all you want to do is

1003
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 8: tell them what you don't like about them, because that's

1004
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 8: the easiest thing to identify. But to me, the way

1005
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 8: you get your team to pee at the end as

1006
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 8: you really get them to believe what your best at

1007
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 8: as a team, and then they take away, man, this

1008
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 8: is what I can do, even if it's a role,

1009
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 8: and people don't like saying that word, but if it's

1010
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 8: a role that they can be great at, then they

1011
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 8: know this is where they're at their best to make

1012
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 8: the team the best. And I will tell you that

1013
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 8: our team's starting to really believe what we can do

1014
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 8: the best Really the key is just how healthy can

1015
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 8: you be? And that's probably the greatest determining factor of

1016
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 8: whether you go into these tournaments, you know, peaking is

1017
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 8: whether you're healthy. So that's one aspect, But I think

1018
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 8: the other aspect is like the real belief in each

1019
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 8: other and what you do well and everybody basically like

1020
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 8: pouring into what those things that make your team great.

1021
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 4: Coach, I was watching your game against Houston and I

1022
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 4: noticed that Patrick Mahomes and his wife were there. What

1023
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 4: is that cool for your team to see Patrick and

1024
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 4: his wife like sitting right next to you, guys, and

1025
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 4: even coaching a little bit too, him yelling and standing

1026
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 4: up and getting into the game.

1027
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: Oh, it was.

1028
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 7: Epic. It was awesome.

1029
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 8: And I got a phone call from Dusty Womble, who's

1030
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 8: a regent, and I'm telling you, he's like one of

1031
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 8: the greatest guys I know, not just people that support

1032
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 8: Red Raider basketball and football, but his name's on our

1033
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 8: practice facility. He's just one of the greatest husbands and

1034
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 8: dads that I know. He's awesome. So he calls me

1035
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 8: and he's got the seats, those Hollywood seats, and he's

1036
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 8: got the seats across from the bench too, four on

1037
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 8: the floor and he's like, where do you think we

1038
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 8: should sit my homes And I was like, wherever he

1039
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 8: wants to sit.

1040
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 7: If you want to sit by the bench, it's great.

1041
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 8: So he comes and sits by the bench, and honestly,

1042
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 8: I don't interact with him a ton, but he's an

1043
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 8: unbelievable supporter of our university, in our athletic department, and

1044
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 8: we got.

1045
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 7: All these players that he's supporting. It's really unbelievable.

1046
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 8: Well, I meet him face to face in the locker

1047
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 8: room before we go out, and he was really complimentary.

1048
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 8: Then we go sit on the floor and I introduced

1049
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 8: myself to Brittany for the first time and I'm like,

1050
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 8: you guys, let it rip over here, have a good time.

1051
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 8: She said, so, you mean I can say anything to

1052
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 8: the refs And Patrick's.

1053
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 7: Like, don't tell her that because you may get it.

1054
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 8: I was like, as long as you sit in these chairs,

1055
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 8: you can, but if you move over and get in

1056
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 8: my four chairs, then you probably shouldn't say anything to them.

1057
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 8: But no, they were honestly, their energy and their belief

1058
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 8: and what we're doing is just a separator for us

1059
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 8: and it was a blast.

1060
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 7: They were awesome.

1061
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: I had two final questions for you, coach, tournament expansion,

1062
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 2: your thoughts.

1063
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 8: Honestly, that's kind of goes in the category of what

1064
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 8: we talked about earlier, of like, you know what seed

1065
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 8: are we I just don't have any control over it,

1066
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 8: and I like the tournament the way it is. I mean,

1067
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 8: you know, sixty four to sixty eight. I know there's

1068
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 8: a lot of reasons for it to be different. I'm

1069
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 8: not smart enough to figure it out. I'm barely smart

1070
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 8: enough to call time out at the right time and

1071
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 8: not run into Patrick Mahomes and a timeout, you know.

1072
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 7: I mean, it's something probably out of my pay grade.

1073
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not going to count that as a question then,

1074
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: since you didn't have really an answer and you acted

1075
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: like you're done when you're obviously brilliant. But okay, I

1076
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: hear you. I hear you, coach. Okay, here, let me

1077
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: switch it up.

1078
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 4: Then.

1079
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: Is there a movie or like a scene from a

1080
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: movie that you show your players every year?

1081
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 7: Ooh, yes, there is.

1082
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 8: There is Shawshank Redemption which part Climbs of the Poop. Yes, yeah, really, yes,

1083
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 8: that's the season. That's the season. So it's like you

1084
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 8: find a way to break through and you finally get

1085
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 8: an opportunity and then you got to go sluedge through

1086
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 8: all this and I and I actually reference it during

1087
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 8: games quite often because let's just say, you've missed eight

1088
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 8: shots in a row, and you know, you feel this

1089
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 8: like desperation, like you never know where the end of

1090
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 8: the tunnel really is and you don't really know exactly

1091
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 8: what you're gonna have to go through till you get

1092
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 8: through it. And so it's just this mental imagery of

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00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 8: the freedom that you have that you don't know when

1094
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 8: it's going to break through for you, but it's worth

1095
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 8: it when you finally get there, and and uh yeah,

1096
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 8: it's uh that's the that's.

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Speaker 2: The one final question for you. It's a family question.

1098
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: High profile job. Your wife went to school there. I

1099
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 2: have other friends that are head coaches, football, basketball, different universities,

1100
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 2: and there's a dynamic. When things are going great, you're

1101
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 2: the hero. When things eventually don't go great for a

1102
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: short amount of time or a long amount of time,

1103
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 2: you're not the hero, but you're very public and your

1104
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: family has to take the good and the bad. Is

1105
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 2: that a conversation you've had with your family at all, going, Hey,

1106
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: it's not always going to be awesome, but it's not

1107
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: real when it's not, Oh.

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00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 7: No question.

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00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 8: I mean this is honestly, man, my faith, my relationship

1110
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 8: with the Lord is the only thing that really is important.

1111
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 8: And I think in that my relationship with my wife

1112
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 8: is What's that? That's everything. I mean, CC's she was

1113
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 8: an unbelievable competitor. She's beautiful, she's freaking so cool.

1114
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 7: She's a blast.

1115
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 8: But when we were losing at North Texas one year

1116
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 8: we lost seven of our last eight games, she like

1117
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 8: wouldn't talk to me after games. She's so mad at me,

1118
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 8: but not mad at me, but just mad at like

1119
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 8: why is this happening? And why can't we fix it?

1120
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 8: But as a competitor, when you're the wife, you can't

1121
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 8: really go.

1122
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 7: Coach a game.

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Speaker 8: And like, and then I've got two sons that play

1124
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 8: go four kids, my daughter, they all play point guard,

1125
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 8: they all play basketball, They rock climb, they're like super

1126
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 8: competitive and they just love this. But I think the

1127
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 8: thing that you and I both know is like, if

1128
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 8: there's anything I want them to know is that I

1129
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 8: love them no matter what, Like there's a real grace

1130
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 8: to this, and there's a real humility in knowing that

1131
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:24,479
Speaker 8: when everybody is shaming you that or whatever the case

1132
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 8: may be making fun of you or there's some difficulty

1133
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 8: in that, like that there's a love there that is

1134
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 8: consistent no matter what you perform. And honestly, like I

1135
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 8: hope my wife and I's marriage in the way that

1136
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 8: we interact with each other, teaches them that, like, how

1137
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 8: do we love each other in a way that isn't

1138
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 8: connected to how good you are at something? And I

1139
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 8: do think that that's the foundation of being great. And

1140
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 8: so when you say that, I just think it's how

1141
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 8: you live your life every day where you love your

1142
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 8: kids and you help them in ways that aren't tied

1143
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 8: to their performance.

1144
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 7: And I think that's the key to all this.

1145
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 8: And I think that's the key to our team, and

1146
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 8: I think that's the key to life, and that.

1147
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 7: How do you love people?

1148
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 8: So after we play these awesome games, and we play

1149
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 8: really good, I tell our guys to pull out their

1150
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 8: phones and scroll and see five hundred text messages. And

1151
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 8: then when we lose a game that we're not supposed

1152
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 8: to lose, go pull out your text message and there's

1153
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 8: two text messages most of the time, and one of

1154
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 8: them's from their mom. You know, It's like, these are

1155
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 8: the people that, honestly, unfortunately in this deal, are going

1156
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 8: to be connected to you no matter what, and those

1157
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 8: are the people that you need to call and think

1158
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 8: first when we win and do great things. And that's

1159
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 8: kind of how we try to mirror this all as

1160
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 8: how being a part of a team relates to your family,

1161
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 8: which relates to your question in regard to how you

1162
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 8: handle all this.

1163
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd climb a poopy tunnel for you. Coach,

1164
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 2: you got me. I'm ready to climb to a tunnel

1165
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,479
Speaker 2: of poop whatever you need me to do. Yes, sir,

1166
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for you. Guys. I don't say I rarely

1167
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: say any other team stuff, but you know, Big twelve,

1168
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 2: let's go, that's what I say. Wrackham, Yeah, yeah, beat

1169
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: the crap out of Kansas, win the tournament. Let's get

1170
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 2: a good seat. Hope you're near me. I'll come watch,

1171
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: but not far. I'm not gonna travel far, but if

1172
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: you're near me regionally, I'll come watch. Coach. Thank you

1173
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: so much, good luck the rest of the season, and

1174
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: we really appreciate the time.

1175
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 7: This is awesome. I hope you win the thousand dollars

1176
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 7: in the picture.

1177
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, Yes, sir, thank you coach. Right, see, y'all,

1178
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: thank you guys for listening. We're back next week. It

1179
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: looks like at some point next week, I think we're

1180
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: gonna get Dama stodom Ireon, who's the head coach at

1181
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. But also like crazy good NBA career, so

1182
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: that'd be fun. Also more analysis from Eddie Betting college basketball.

1183
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of good stuff.

1184
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: When he's like, listen to the story, man, and then

1185
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: they only lost by four and I won.

1186
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 4: Man, I'm close to getting one of those twelve game parlays.

1187
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 2: What's close?

1188
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 4: Eight? No, I've gotten like eleven before. Yeah, I've gotten

1189
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 4: really close. But but what's crazy, that's when you look

1190
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: at it later. It's usually the first game I lose.

1191
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 4: The first game, I'm like, oh, that's stupid. But then

1192
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 4: you look back and I hit every game after that,

1193
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 4: that sucks.

1194
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: And because you never pay attention to go back and

1195
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: look once you've already lost, you don't even know.

1196
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 4: It's usually like a Sunday night, when I'm not doing anything,

1197
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 4: I'm like, let's see how my Weekway and gambling. I

1198
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 4: almost hit that it's crazy.

1199
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: That's funny. Uh So there's another thing too, if you

1200
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: want to really feel dumb, you can go over to

1201
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: our episode of Lots to say. It's Matt Castle and

1202
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 2: myself and it's on me because I had Matt try

1203
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: to teach us quarterback terminology and he thought he was

1204
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 2: really dumbing it down for us. And I'm telling you,

1205
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 2: about halfway through, I looked at Kevin, and Reid doesn't

1206
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 2: know much about sports, so it's fine. But I looked

1207
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: at Kevin. Kevin looked at me and we're like, dude,

1208
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: you get We got to walk back about three steps

1209
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh really, He's like, but z flair,

1210
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: Oh god, And he thought he was breaking it because

1211
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: I wanted to know, like teach us from the beginning

1212
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 2: so we can have this one thing to know if

1213
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: we're like talking with friends and we're like, yeah, but

1214
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 2: zero slot z flare Yeah, And he was like, ah,

1215
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: maybe this is why I don't coach, but I don't

1216
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: know how to yeah, simplify it, yes, And he'd be like,

1217
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: what you wanna do is we're gonna make sure your

1218
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: boss gets and the weak side boss was one of

1219
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: the terms. Yeah, because the boss was basically the full back.

1220
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: It was the back on the strong safety. Holy crap,

1221
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: there you go. So if they're running a boss, it's

1222
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: the back to get to the strong safety. But it's

1223
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 2: inside of like seventy two other words. I do feel

1224
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 2: good though about what we learned about personnel. When they

1225
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: say thirteen personnel.

1226
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they talk about that a lot on the broadcast.

1227
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: Too, and so you can listen to that. But thirteen

1228
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: personnel's one runner back, three tight ends or but he

1229
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: goes into all that. But there was one point we

1230
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: gave up and we're like, dude, we can't do this anymore.

1231
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 4: Do this with your quarterback friends.

1232
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: Yes, well it was my fault because I suggested. I

1233
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 2: was like, make us Marner. But go listen to that.

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00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 2: Lots to say thank you for listening to twenty five

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Speaker 2: whistles and we will see you guys next week. Bye, buddy, I.

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Speaker 4: Want it, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Theme song written by Bobby Bones That's Me, performed by

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00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 2: Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music.

1239
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bone Sports.

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00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 2: Thanks to our crew co host at producer Reddy, Segment

1241
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 2: producer at Kickoff Kevin Video, producer at Redrberry, and executive

1242
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 2: producer at Mike Diestro. But most importantly, thank you for listening.

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00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here

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Speaker 2: on twenty five whistles