1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: This One person in particular came into the house while 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: I was alone and she was like, no, your mom 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: ows me money, and you know, she came with the guy. 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: It was nighttime and she was like, I could hurt 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: you if I wanted. 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: To one of the Aucture boy Kevin stage, you want 7 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: to welcome you. Not my best moment. The podcast where 8 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: I talk to athletes, artists, entertainers and friends about their 9 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: successful failures and the like, based on my New York 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 2: Times best selling book Sucessful Failre available wherever books are 11 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: found today, I have a person that I've admired for 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: very long. Janette Ray is a former Good Day DC 13 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: and ABC News anchor for twelve years. Currently an author, 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: her advocate, creator and motivator. She's the author of Prime 15 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: to Pivot, which is the blueprint and book that frames 16 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: her career in life transitions not as failures, but as 17 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: plan fulfilling steps forwards. She's also the co host of 18 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: the Author Record podcast alongside Mona Culster Abdy. The two 19 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: hosts go beyond the headlines and into the group chat 20 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: with bold, unfiltered combos on media, culture and society. It's 21 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: where the news ends and the real talk begins. You 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: might know her from her incredibly insightful and inspirational newsletter 23 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: This Just End, which is now available through her substack. 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: When she isn't creating her motivating she lends her platform 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: and attention to support a nision. 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: Oh I'm going, Jeannette, You're gonna get it all centered around? Enough? 27 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: Is it enough? 28 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: I was gonna say no to team We got to 29 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: shorten my bio. 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: She's also a member of the ana BJ Associate, the 31 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: National Association of Black Journalists. 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: Ladies, gentlemen, please welcome to Jeanette Ray. 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you, it's to be here. 34 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining me. If you're like me, 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: you probably know her as the news lady from Tiktoks. 36 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: From her husband Robert Burton, who I'm a huge fan, 37 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: that is my brother in churchiness, or their daughter Bella, 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: or her mom who she antagonizes on socials from time 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: to time. 40 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: Janette, welcome to the show. 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: That that was an incredible welcome. Thank you. It's such 42 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: an honor to be here. We have admired you for 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: a very very long time. So, by the way, the 44 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: meeting between you and my husband is long overdue. I 45 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: apologize all of our followers who tag you this time 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: I post you. 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: He's just like that. 48 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: He has a choir robe at home, at his beck 49 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 2: and call at any time. 50 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: That is a level of dedication. 51 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: Several and he's never been an a choir. 52 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: That's the funniest part. He's just doing this for the 53 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: sheer love of the game. Most people probably know you 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: as you know, a news anchor or as a social 55 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: media content creator. But let's go all the way back. 56 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: I thought this was very interesting. I'd love to hear 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: the story of you when you were all the. 58 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: Way in high school. 59 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: Okay, actually I want to hear I want to hear 60 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: this from your words. I don't even want to set 61 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: the audience up because I was blown away by this, 62 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 2: but I'd love to hear this from your pov. 63 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: Oh that's from Okay, from the top. 64 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: So, yeah, you've been through five high schools. 65 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to talk about. 66 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: How that happened, the high school struggle. Yeah, go ahead. 67 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm originally from Rhode Island. Yes, there are black 68 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: people in Rhode Island. There's like three, but there are 69 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: black people. And I went to five high schools, two 70 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: of them in Ohio, four of them in one year. Wow, 71 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: and it was it was a whirlwind. So I went 72 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: to one school ninth grade. Tenth grade is where it 73 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: got crazy. We were supposed to move to Ohio permanently, 74 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: so my mom sent me ahead. My brother was already there, 75 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: much older, and I went to Euclid High School for 76 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: a quarter. Then I went to Shaker Heights High School 77 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: for two weeks. Then I went to Tollgate for a quarter. 78 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: That was just miserable and uh yeah, and then I 79 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: graduated from Cranston West High School. What was so interesting, though, 80 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: is that in one school super popular. I mean I 81 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: was there a quarter and they threw me a go 82 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: on away party. They canceled the class amazing. Right in 83 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: another high school, I was having lunch in the bathroom. 84 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: Oh it was Yeah. 85 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: It was like either extreme. But it let me know 86 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: early early on that sometimes you just got to find 87 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: your people and and like, your environment is not a 88 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: reflection of who you are. So I learned that I 89 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: developed thick skin pretty quickly. 90 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: So what was the reason you were moving around so much? 91 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: Part of it was finances. My dad was My dad 92 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: owned an auto shop, my mom was a realtor, and 93 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: you know, business sometimes was boom. Other times it was 94 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: really rough, and we were trying to make the move 95 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: to Ohio where we thought there would be, you know, 96 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: better business opportunities. And once I moved there, we realized 97 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: my dad wasn't going to be able to sell the shop. 98 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: And then we just went. 99 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: Back and it's like it's a convoluted story, but ultimately, 100 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: ultimately it was it was finances and that was just 101 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: the beginning of it. I mean, little did I know. 102 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: I thought once I settled at Cranston High School West, 103 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: the last high school, that things would settle. But it 104 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: just went from bad to worst. 105 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: So this is so interesting because you know, watching you 106 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: on social media, you know, alone, you with Robert. You know, 107 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: we know social media is only a fragment of people's life. 108 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: It's highly produced, all that type of stuff. But I 109 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: think we get into the habit of falling for the production, 110 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: so to speak, the highlight rail. Yeah. So it's like, 111 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, I just thought you because of how 112 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: you present, I just thought you were like put together. 113 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: Your life was you know what I mean. 114 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: Like it's interesting that you, you know, you were working 115 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: in high school, two jobs separate from your parents. Like 116 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: that gotta be hard on you. That's not a it 117 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: was a desirable high school experience. I think most people would. 118 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: Say, no, it was. It was brutal. So the final year, 119 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: this is this is kind of where things took a turn. 120 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: My senior year. You remember, I mean two thousand and eight. 121 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: The economy, I mean yeah, stuff just hit the fan right, 122 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: the bottom fell out, and it was my final year. 123 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: My parents we bought this home, and it was they 124 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: weren't going to be able to make the payments on it. 125 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: So my Rhode Island was hit particularly hard the housing market, 126 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: and so my mom told my dad, you know, either 127 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: we stay here and we all just go down, or 128 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, we go She had interest or somebody had 129 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: told her about New Orleans. They were kind of rebuilding, 130 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: and so there were a ton of opportunities there. At 131 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: an oil refinery wearing steel toe boots, this realtor, former restauranteur, 132 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: working eighty six hours a week, climbing up on It's 133 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: so funny. They told her, like there was like this 134 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: forty foot tower that you have to climb up on, 135 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: and the guy was like, you know how to do this, right? 136 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 4: But she was, yeah, this all the time, and like 137 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: you know. 138 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: She had to fake itun til she made it because 139 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: it paid the bills. She was living in a it 140 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: was like a house full of a lot of you know, 141 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: a lot of immigrants that were just trying to make 142 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: against me. And she was a mattress on the floor, 143 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 1: just working her eighty six hours a week, sending money 144 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: to Rhode Island to try and save the house and 145 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: pay the bills. My dad ended up being a truck 146 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: driver in Utah, and it was just my sister and 147 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: I was She's fifteen months older than me, so I 148 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: was seventeen and I'm finishing high school. She had already graduated. 149 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: And it was brutal. I'm working the two jobs and 150 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: were you know, the waters going out in the middle 151 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: of this, in the middle of the winter. You know, 152 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: we don't have heat. I'm getting this realtor who's I think, yeah, 153 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: a realtor who's telling us like, hey, you might come 154 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: here any day and you won't be able to get in, 155 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: like the house is ya. You guys are losing it. 156 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: So you're dealing with those realities while just trying to 157 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: graduate from high school. 158 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 4: Good and uh. 159 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: Huh, no, no good. I was gonna say good grief, 160 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: but I didn't want to interrupt you. 161 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: And I was very fortunate that I had people from church. 162 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: You know. I would go in the church pantry and 163 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: get groceries. And I had one lady in particular. Every 164 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: week she would drop off a ton of groceries. I 165 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: would have people help pay for gas, so I was 166 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: surrounded by a lot of support. I had a teacher. 167 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: One time I told her out to class, I'm like, 168 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: I don't have the gas. 169 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: To get home. 170 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: She and I were really were really close. And then 171 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: even you know, a principle of mine, he ended up 172 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: inviting me to his house for a Christmas Eve. He 173 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: was like, think like Morgan Freeman, lean on me. He 174 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: was super tough and he found out about my situation 175 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: and inviting me to his house for Thanksgiving, and his 176 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: family brought, you know, bought me a ton of you know, presents. 177 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: It was clothes and shoes and that type of thing. 178 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: But it was it was rough, and just when you 179 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: thought things couldn't get any worse, I'm wondering if I 180 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: should share this. 181 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: We can always take it out too much. 182 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: Yes, a lot of people old, a lot owed a 183 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: lot of people money, right, just you know, as things 184 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: were falling apart, and there was this one person in 185 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: particular who came into the house while I was alone, 186 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: and she was like, no, you're your mom ows me money, 187 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: and you know, she came with the guy. It was 188 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: nighttime and she was like, I could I could hurt 189 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: you if I wanted to. And so they walk right 190 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: in and they start walking around the house pointing at 191 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: things that you know, what could we sell this for? 192 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: What could we sell this for? I've never told this 193 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: story before. And they ended up leaving and a few 194 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: weeks later the house was broken into and a bunch 195 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: of stuff were still was stolen. 196 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 197 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: And that's when I just you know, when you're just 198 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: like it's like comical, how bash are? And that's when 199 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: I just I decided to apply to college. And I 200 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: was like, what do I have to lose? Let me 201 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: just go for it and share the story. And I 202 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: got it. And I actually applied just to have the 203 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: bragging rights of havn't gotten in with no intentions of going. 204 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, so wait, you were how old were you 205 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: in this story? 206 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: I just turned eighteen. 207 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I imagine you were like pee your pants 208 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: level terrified. 209 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't think it fully hit me, honestly, because yeah, 210 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: I was just in such shock that it didn't really 211 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: fully hit me what they were saying. 212 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I imagine that. Can imagine that too. You're 213 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: just like later on, you're like, hold on, was this 214 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: like a shakedown? And you should have just took it 215 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 2: right now? What's the point of breaking me. You're already 216 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: here and you're already staring me. 217 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 4: Just take it right right right? 218 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: Did that did that experience in your life, that entire experience, 219 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: not just that one moment, that entire experience, uh, shape 220 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: you in any way? 221 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 3: You know? 222 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: It made me to a fault. I admit this, and 223 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm working on it. 224 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: Oof. 225 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm working on it now. It made me swear to 226 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: never ever make myself vulnerable like that again, whether emotionally, physically, financially, 227 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: or otherwise to an extreme, and also just to kind 228 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: of power through, right, Like, I think you get to 229 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: such a point your compartment you're just trying to survive 230 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: that you get really good at shutting things down, and 231 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: my default is kind of not feeling I have to 232 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: remind myself like, oh wait, I'm sad right now, you know, 233 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: So I think that's the residue. That's that's left over 234 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: from that. And I didn't realize it until a few 235 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: years ago. 236 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: Hey take a quick break here, support the show by 237 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: supporting the sponsor. You know, you meet people who have 238 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 2: rough upbringings, like often a lot of us do, and 239 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 2: you share a story and you just end up realizing 240 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: you said something casual that most people were. 241 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 3: Like, what the hell are you talking about? 242 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 2: That's insane I never have thought about and you just 243 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: you know, the human brain to its either compliment or detriment. 244 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 2: We can compartmentalize. The brain can compartmentalize some stuff, and 245 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: we got to get to work. We could just see 246 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: the worst thing ever, experience the worst thing ever, and 247 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: you got to push forward. So I'm glad that you 248 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,239 Speaker 2: have been able to at least acknowledge that. And sometimes 249 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: you realize that that can power you to great heights, 250 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: even if it was like you were thriving off negativity, 251 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: you know, so to speak. 252 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: Oh it's a great fuel, I'll trust. 253 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 3: So you actually end up going to college. 254 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: So I got accepted, and I'm like, well, I mean, 255 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: what am I going to do with this? But this 256 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: story I've also never told, by the way, when when 257 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: you approached me with this podcast interview. I was like, 258 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: what do I have? I don't know if I have. 259 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 5: I buried this so deep that I had to remind 260 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 5: myself like, oh shoot, yeah, it feels. 261 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: Like another life. 262 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 4: But I was. 263 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: Actually I was preparing to email yesterday like yo, I 264 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: got nothing, but I got accepted. I was kind of 265 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: on the fence. I went to church. I went to 266 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: this overwhelmingly white church, and I was treated different. How 267 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: do I say it. I'd gone there for a long 268 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: time because they had a school attached to it, and 269 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: so I was very cool with like the kids. Like 270 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: the kids and my former classmates always treated me very 271 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: well and knew my situation and were very welcoming, while 272 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: the adults were kind of like, who's this girl? Where 273 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: are her parents? That type of thing, So they kind 274 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: of ostracized me in that sense. So anyway, this this 275 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: profit comes and I'm at like the house is good, 276 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: Like we have a couple of weeks to decide. Am 277 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: I going to go to New Orleans and work at 278 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: the oil refinery or am I just going to go 279 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: for it in college? So this prophet comes. Everybody's you know, 280 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: standing around, He's preaching he's doing all of this, and 281 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: I say this prefacing whether or not you believe in it. 282 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: I've yet to be able to explain what happened that night. 283 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: So I go to move to the front, and the 284 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: church members won't let me on one side because I said, 285 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: I just want to get a word, just something from 286 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: God that lets me know should I go right or 287 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: left in this fork in the road? Right? And so 288 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: I go around the other way and I go to 289 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: the altar and I go to him and we make 290 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: eye contact, and he looks at me and he says, 291 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: I see your college tuition being paid for, and I 292 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: see you being a spokesperson for a generation. I almost 293 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: left on the first pot. I was like cool, He's 294 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: like wait, wait, wait, wait, And I turned around. A 295 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: week later, packed up. I was the last to leave 296 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: my home. My sister had already left. I remember I 297 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: walked into every single room because we had such great 298 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: memories in the house. I walked into every single room, 299 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: packed up my car, and drove to Ohio on a 300 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: tire that had threads coming out. 301 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 3: That's all right. 302 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then I made it to college. My 303 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: mom was like, listen, as long as you get involved 304 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: as involved as possible, and whatever you can think of. 305 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: We will work to pay for your schooling for as 306 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: far as we can go. And if you ever have 307 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: to leave, which we assumed that would come soon, at 308 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: least you will have left in mark right, like, at 309 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: least people will notice that you were there. That's what 310 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: I did. 311 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: Wow, I am floppers are gasted because you just really 312 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: never know. I'm just your time now is five point 313 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: thirty two. We're here with and Lo and behold. You 314 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: were out here getting it out the mud. Your mom's 315 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: working on oil rigs. You're getting robbed. It's just like Janette. 316 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: You put that anchor voice on and you smile on 317 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: that TikTok and laugh with your husband and your mom, 318 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: and you could write a book. 319 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: I made a career of putting on a face like 320 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: literally anmoice. 321 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 3: Grief you from the slums of Rhode Island. 322 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: Ain't nobody told me it was the gunner down the 323 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: Rhode Island. 324 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: Ain't nobody told me not it? So let me ask 325 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: you this. 326 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: Right, if you don't know Janet raised, you know content creator, 327 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: But you were actually when I when I first found you, 328 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: you were actually on the news still and doing content, 329 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: like you would do something from you know, your desk, 330 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: and then when you left it was it was a 331 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: big thing for the people who don't know you. How 332 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: big or was it a big choice or how actually, 333 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 2: let me rephrase that. How did you come to the 334 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: decision to walk away from your from your career and 335 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: and go full time into content? Was it a tough choice? 336 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people think I was kind 337 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: of plotting or planned on it for a while, and 338 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: I didn't. I I so one thing I learned from 339 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: Rhode Island is you are never too high up to fall. 340 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: The rug can be pulled out from a Bundy right 341 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: like right. So, once I saw the news business kind 342 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: of going a certain way, I was in Philly, one 343 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: of the top stations in the country, and they treated 344 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: me very very well, but they all but they were 345 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: very It was an ABC owned station. They're very, very 346 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: strict on what you can and can't do outside of 347 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: the station. So they didn't like the TikTok thing. They 348 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: didn't like. They didn't like that, and I was like, 349 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: you know what, I've got to have a backup just 350 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: in case stuff goes left, because you never know. These 351 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: are golden handcuffs. Yeah, and my contract came up and 352 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: I went to d C, which was smaller market. The 353 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: station itself, it wasn't as prestigious as Philly, and a 354 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: lot of people were like, what the hell is she doing? 355 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: And it was frowned on. I remember the the GM 356 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: said a couple of words to me before I walked 357 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: out the door. He's like, I hope this is worth 358 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 1: it to you. I hope you don't regret it with me. 359 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: And I go to Fox five and they were very 360 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: great with embracing my social media presence, me going viral, 361 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: I was on the Jennifer Hudson Show. Was mutually beneficial, right. 362 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: So anyway, I get to the point where I start 363 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: turning down. I start getting presented with a lot of 364 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: brand deals and it's paying more than I make, and like, 365 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's like three months worth of pay. And I, 366 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, happily turned it down because I loved my job. 367 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: It was a dream job. I like, damn near skip 368 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: to work, right, it's amazing, But I'm working all the holidays, 369 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm on air five hours a day. I'm covering the 370 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: worst of news. I have a daughter, and I was like, 371 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: you know what, why don't I just go for it 372 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work out, then I just come back. 373 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: And three months before the end of my contract, it 374 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: was a Nike contract that had me rethinking stuff. Nike 375 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: came in all was like, wait a minute, And three 376 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: months before the end of my contract, I told my 377 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: news director that I wasn't I wasn't going to renew. 378 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: Were they did they take it the way the Philly 379 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: station took it or were they more understand. 380 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: Not at all? They were very understanding. I think they 381 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: kind of figured it was coming. They had offered me 382 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: an opportunity for like a syndicated talk show with another 383 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: well known guy in the business, but I had to 384 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: keep doing that right, so I would be the co 385 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: host for that. They still wanted me to be a 386 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: local anchor. And I also couldn't do brand deals. Who 387 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: so I was like, wait a minute, it seems like 388 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: everybody's winning here because my co host could do the 389 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: brand deals. 390 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 391 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: So when I said no, like the GM called me in. 392 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: I was like, what's going on? Is everything okay? Have 393 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: you gotten a better offer? 394 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 3: What's going on? Because are you. 395 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 4: Right right? 396 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: Like? Should we get you checked out? And I was 397 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: like no, I just don't feel I just don't feel 398 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: like doing it. And my mom like, kudos to her. 399 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: She's not like a lot of immigrant moms where she 400 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: was just like, Janet, you're doubling down on the very 401 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: thing you don't want, like you are trading, uh, you know, 402 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: golden handcuffs for you know, a couple on your feet 403 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: as well, you know, for longer hours. You still can't 404 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: do brand deals. So she was very supportive. 405 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: So how long has it been since you've been full 406 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: time content creation? 407 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: Three years in December? 408 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: Oh wow, have you ever had a moment where you 409 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 2: were like, did I make the right decision? Because I 410 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: don't know how your income works, but sometimes brand deals 411 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: can be few and far between, you you know, sometimes 412 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: people be. 413 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: Like, man, maybe I was tripping or have you been 414 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 3: like not belive being good? Yeah, I knowledge it. 415 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: So that's a good question. I've been very fortunate with 416 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: brand deals that it's been good, particularly the first year, 417 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: and then the second year was even better, and we 418 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: were turning down maybe forty percent of the deals that 419 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: we would get sent our way. So very fortunate that 420 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: I got to be selected with what I took on 421 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: and that type of thing However, every single day. I 422 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: miss it every single day. If they off, if they said, hey, 423 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: we no longer have the conflict of interest clause where 424 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: you can't take outside deals, I would be like, when 425 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: can I start? Really, Oh my god, I am still 426 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: grieving who I was in news and my life in news. 427 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 2: Okay, say more about that. That's very I'm very interesting. 428 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: Content creators don't often have that answer. It's often what 429 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: they wanted to do, but you miss it. Who were 430 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: you in news that you missed? 431 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: You know? 432 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: I did so, Like I would do about five live 433 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: segments a day. Interviews, I would I might interview the governor, 434 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: and then I might moderate a five minute political panel 435 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: with a Democrat and a Republican. You know, I moderated 436 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: the mayor oal debate, but then I might interview Elokooja 437 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: or like. It was just it ran the gamut, and 438 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: I liked that it kept me sharp, that I got 439 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: to wake people up in the morning. And it sounds 440 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: corny and cliche, but like to be a part of 441 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: people's mornings was really really special to me. And also 442 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: the adrenaline of live news, like there's nothing TikTok live. 443 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, and then the final. 444 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: Thing is I do still really really struggle with the 445 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: title and the status, right, Like, you can have the 446 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: money that social media gives you and the followers, but 447 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: there is a respect and there's a status that you 448 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: get when your job is to inform the people and 449 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: it is not about you. You are not the You're 450 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: the messenger, not the message. Yeah, so it's perfect. 451 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 3: Wow, that is really interesting. 452 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: So if someone were to you're in New York now, right, Yeah, 453 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: if the one in New York was like, man, forget 454 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: all that, we want you on Big three ABC. 455 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: I don't know the numbers in New York. 456 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. 457 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can do allio TikTok stuff you would 458 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: really welcome. Do you think you could even juggle everything 459 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: you do? Because you got a podcast, you got the substack, 460 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: you got the brand deals, you got the good baby. 461 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 3: Would you could juggle it? 462 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 4: I'll figure it out. 463 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: I am an anti burnout, hustle culture person until an 464 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 1: opportunity like that comes up. 465 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 2: So I want to switch gears a little bit. Still 466 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: on the topic of content, you tried to switch your 467 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 2: content up this year or recently and it did not 468 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: go the way you thought. What happened. 469 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: Oh man, this is a this is a hard lesson. 470 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: So if you know my content, you know it's it's humor, 471 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: it's by culturalism, it's you know, multi generational, and then 472 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: the anchor voice type thing, and I thought, you know what, 473 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: I ain't it ain't broke, but let's fix it. And 474 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: I think one of the things, one of the things 475 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: I loved about doing news and content creation is that 476 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: there was a little bit of an arrogance, I will 477 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: admit where it was like I got a job. I 478 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: got a job with benefits. I'm a post and gooses. 479 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: If y'all don't like it, it's okay because the check's 480 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: still going clear in two weeks. So I had my 481 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: blinders on and I wasn't thinking about what other people 482 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: were doing, and I just knew that this thing worked 483 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do that. Well, when you're in the 484 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: content creation business, those blinders so slowly fall off and 485 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: you start to see what other people are doing, and 486 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 1: you're like, well, should I do more fashion doing more 487 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: photo shoots? Should I do? And I started venturing into 488 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: that and the numbers were I think relatively relatively good. 489 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: I think to the average person watching or maybe the 490 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: average creator, but it was a tenth sometimes a twentieth 491 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: of the content that I would post that people knew 492 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: me for. And so I actually went and Claude and 493 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: I did a full audit. By the way, I highly 494 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: recommend this. I did a full audit of my social 495 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: media going back three years, and I was like, tell 496 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: me what is going on? And Claude like, he's lucky 497 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm still paying. 498 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 5: A subscription because it read me for filth. It was like, 499 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 5: in so many words, like how are you doing? 500 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: Like it was like, ninety percent of your content that 501 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: goes viral is Robert, Like, hands down, it's with Robert, 502 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: it's the couple's content. It's self deprecating, it's just the funny, 503 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: you know, off the cuff stuff. After that it's you 504 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: and your mom. Then after that it's your brother. And 505 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: it was like you're over here, you know, like doing 506 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: stuff that isn't necessarily bad. But it was like, that's 507 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: not what your followers came for, so you can that 508 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: can be great, but the people it's showing showing it too, 509 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: didn't come to you for that, and tell me why. 510 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: Within a week of me going back to within a 511 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: week of me changing my content just skyrocketed business as usual. 512 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: It was basically like, sit your ass down. 513 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 4: And so here I am. 514 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 3: Do you I get that one hundred percent. 515 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 2: I feel like was there a part of you that 516 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: felt like another set of handcuffs that you have to 517 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: do this one thing or was it reassuring that your 518 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 2: old faithful would work. 519 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: It was relief because I'm not I'm not the fashionista. 520 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm not the person to do like, you know, sexy 521 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: photo shoots and whatever. Like if I'm gonna I want 522 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: it to be the cherry on top. If I do 523 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: a fashion video, it's Robert maybe making fun of my outfit. 524 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: Right Like if I'm gonna do a strut during fashion 525 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: Week with a nice outfit, I might have Robert doing 526 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: the usherwalk next to me, you know what I mean. 527 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: So for us, the vehicle has always been humor, and 528 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: so it was it was such a relief because I'm like, Okay, 529 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm in my bag, this is my bread and butter. 530 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: I feel more comfortable if I think if you if 531 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: that is not what you are known for, You're competing 532 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: with people who's you know, this is their bread and butter. 533 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good way I think about it. Yeah. Yeah, 534 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 3: hey guys, taking a quick commercial break, We'll be right back. 535 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 3: You've you've you've. 536 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: Expanded beyond that into your podcast in your sub stack. 537 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: What was the reason that you felt like you had 538 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: to go beyond I'm gonna say traditional social media, which 539 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: is a crazy term. Uh, but what you are traditionally 540 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 2: known for, you know, Instagram reels and tiktoks. What made 541 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: you feel like I've got to do more. 542 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I ooh, okay, to be totally transparent. 543 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: For the podcast in particular, I was like, I gotta 544 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: do something that's serious, just clowning. 545 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 4: All day. 546 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: Online. 547 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: So there was a little bit. 548 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: There was a little bit of that, and also I 549 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: miss interviewing and then and then to also be honest, 550 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: like I felt like there was a great appetite and 551 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: need for skilled journalists and journalistic rigor in podcasting, Like, yeah, 552 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: I did a video about this, Like there's a big 553 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: difference between key keying and interviewing, and I think we 554 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: all suffer for it when we have people who don't 555 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: know how to interview, handling serious topics or topics that 556 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: are just relevant to a lot of people. So so yeah, 557 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: it's been fulfilling in more ways than one. 558 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: So I asked this question often. 559 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: If everything were to go beyond your wildest dreams in 560 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: the next five years in your career, like everything happened 561 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: that you want, what would that look like? 562 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: I would say for the podcast, hmm. Obviously you know 563 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: over a million subscribers. It's something that you know, we 564 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: go beyond breaking even like this is this bit this 565 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: start that type of income starts to compete with what 566 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: I make on brand deals, right, like it becomes a 567 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: legitimate way to diverse to diversify my income. But we're 568 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: also like a force when it comes to hey, this 569 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: is the place where your favorite celebrity is going to 570 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: have fun and you know she's going to be treated fairly, 571 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: but she's going to ask the questions that everybody wants 572 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: to know, right, Like, she's not going to get off easy. 573 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: Uh. 574 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: That's what I picture for the podcast, that it's respectable 575 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: and that sense. I won't go as far as saying 576 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: like Oprah, but oprah ish in the sense that you 577 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: knew if you going on Oprah everything everything's being put 578 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: on the table. 579 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 580 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's for the podcast. 581 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: And then for for social media, you know that it 582 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: just it. I think I in the future probably returned 583 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: back to the vulnerability and transparency that I had before. 584 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm still working on it now, probably circle back to 585 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: that and show more of my life in a way 586 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: that goes beyond the highlight reel. 587 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking about that, one of the things you we 588 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: was brought up me in the pre meeting was the 589 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: how tough you're losing your dad was for you. Can 590 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: you take us back to that moment or that that 591 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: time in your life and kind of paint that picture 592 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: because I assume you had a good relationship with with him, 593 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: if you are okay talking about that, Yeah. 594 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: If he and I were very close. He's the reason 595 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: I went into news. He was, you know, a news junkie, 596 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: the history buff. And this was my junior year in 597 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: high school. Actually it was when the money ran out. 598 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: Both my mom and dad we were laid off, and 599 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: that was the moment we knew, okay, we've made it 600 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: this far. Let your professor know that you won't be 601 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: able to return next semester. They ran it up the 602 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: ladder told the dean. Dean calls me in and he's like, 603 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: they won't let me. 604 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 4: Let you leave. 605 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: How much do you need? 606 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 3: Wow? 607 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,719 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm like, it's gonna sound bad if 608 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, so listen, I mean you know 609 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: what I mean. So I was like, let me get 610 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: back to you. I got to figure it out, and 611 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: I'll let you know. I did not get back to him. 612 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks went by, and I still I 613 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: just I don't know. I just couldn't tell him. I 614 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: got a call and they tell me, hey, it was financially. 615 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: They said, your balance has been paid in full. And 616 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: he sends you a message and he says, if you 617 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: ever need anything to finish out to graduate from here, 618 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: let me know. So I called my mom and dad 619 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: to tell him the news, and my dad says in Spanish, 620 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: he says the way he says, you see now I 621 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: can die. Because his thing was always if all my 622 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: kids graduate from college, I'm good. So on the one hand, 623 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: by the way, right, that word is fulfilled. The college 624 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: tuition was paid for. 625 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: Wow. 626 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: The whole spokesperson thing I did not. I only chose 627 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: journalism because a friend of mine recommended it. I was 628 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: an exploratory major. I hated the sound of that. He 629 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: was like, I got to pick slump, and so he 630 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: said you would be a great journalist. So I went 631 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: with journalism. But anyway, then my dad says, he says that, 632 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: and then two weeks later he is diagnosed with terminal 633 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: tonsil cancer. 634 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, and. 635 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: Within a year he died. And I just we never 636 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: fully recovered from everything. It was just four years of 637 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: just trying to make it work. And I remember I 638 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 1: was I was in Atlanta doing an internship at CNN, 639 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: and I had a feeling something told me. My mom 640 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: was telling me that he was fine, that he was fine. 641 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: I suddenly it hit me one day, I was like, 642 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: he's going to die. I need to go now. Like 643 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: I went to my supervisor at CNA and I was like, 644 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: I need to go to Ohio. My dad is really sick. 645 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: Popped in the car, drove the twelve hours. I get 646 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: there and he's in hospice. My mom is. 647 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: Is with him. 648 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: He did not want me to come. He was not 649 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: happy that I left the internship. And I remember my 650 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: mom was going to leave the room that later that 651 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: day to go on a walk, and I told her, 652 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, can you just stay here 653 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: and watch over a poppy? And me because I was 654 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: going to take a nap in the adjacent room, and 655 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: she said she for some reason, she decided to listen 656 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: to me and stayed and within two minutes of her 657 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: sitting down, he took a deep breath and passed away. 658 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: And she said the closure that she got seeing that 659 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: he wasn't looking for her, that he wasn't you know 660 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: what I mean, that there was nothing that he could 661 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: do and she could do, and that she got to 662 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: witness his passing was really satisfying for her. But I 663 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: remember when he passed. Within ten minutes, his phone goes off. 664 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: It's a notification that the phone bills passed. 665 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 6: You, Oh, exactly right, leave us alone, literally, like, can 666 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 6: we have a moment. 667 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 3: Let him rest in peace? 668 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: Two seventeen for the phone bill. He can't call nobody, 669 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: No way, you ain't getting it. 670 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 4: God. 671 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: So I just remember feeling such rage, yes, rage, because. 672 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 4: I am one. 673 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: I felt like he felt like he died without dignity. Right, 674 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: he left us nothing, and I've kind of failed. But 675 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: also we never I always wanted us to live in 676 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: the same home again, and we never got that because 677 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: we all stattered when everything fell apart, And so that 678 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: was just kind of taken, and I remember I just 679 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: out of there was a lot of I don't know 680 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: if you felt this with your brother, but you kind 681 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: of like want to spite death. 682 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 4: Oh you know what I mean? 683 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 2: Like you're just like you know what I have felt 684 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: this to my Corginette Ray is how dare you death? 685 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to show you. 686 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 3: I think I'm still doing that. 687 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to accomplish everything we were supposed to because 688 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 2: how dare you rob me of my dreams with him? Yeah? Wow, 689 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 2: you actually just gave me words for something I've been 690 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 2: feeling like I want to like compete with death in 691 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 2: a city. 692 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: Literally it's it's literally your personifying death, like you're trying 693 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: to make it a person and you want to show them. 694 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: And for me it was hardening up. I'm done with 695 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: the hoping, the because you always think things will end well. 696 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 1: But there's that subjective right, like your happy ending is 697 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: very different from what God might you know consider But anyway, 698 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: then you realize it's almost like wanting to what is 699 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: it poison someone and you're the drinking it or whatever. 700 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 2: Like it's just like I don't want you to give 701 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: me the right answer now, Janette just let me be mad. 702 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: Don't don't give me the correct idiot, I don't. I 703 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:41,959 Speaker 2: want to be wrong. 704 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: It's a process. I'm gonna let you get it out 705 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: of your system. But you're gonna wake up one day. 706 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: You're gonna be alone in a room out of breath 707 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: throwing blows and you realize you're the only one in there. 708 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: And that's what I had to go through. 709 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Okay, I'm gonna let you go. But before 710 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 2: I want to ask ask all content creators this when 711 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: I have them on the show. Is there a side 712 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: of this that you a bore? Are people to forward 713 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 2: with you? Do they want to hug your baby? Is 714 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: there a part of you that's just like, Oh I 715 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: love a lot of this, but this part I just 716 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,720 Speaker 2: wish we're different. 717 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: That's a good question. Ah, you know, I there's a 718 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: couple of things. One that it requires gos Should I 719 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 1: say it? Like I think in news, I could hide 720 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: behind I'm the messenger, not the message about me, right 721 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: Like Yeah, In fact, it is frowned upon to talk 722 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: about your business, to center yourself in the story with 723 00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: the content creation. Increasingly, that's what they want. They wantvulnerability, 724 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: they want transparency, they want you to they want to 725 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: see you going through the process. I like retrospective vulnerability, 726 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna tell you once I go through. 727 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 3: It, retrospective vulnerability. 728 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: And I still I really really struggle with that because 729 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been through this where you're like, 730 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: I know what would make the numbers pop more. I 731 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: know what would make me go viral. It is to 732 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: talk more about my husband and our relationship and to 733 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: talk about Bella, And I really struggle with that. So 734 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: that's the part that I do not like. 735 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 2: I think I literally just went through that this week. 736 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 2: One of the things my dad told me is like, 737 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 2: you have to give a lot of yourself to the internet. 738 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 2: Try not to give everything to the internet. And I 739 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 2: think that part has been a good kind of like 740 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 2: guiding life for me. Like the very personal thing I've 741 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 2: been making this joke lately, these are for Kevin, not Kevin. 742 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 2: There's a part of me that I will share right 743 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 2: because Kevin on stage and you know, in some way, 744 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 2: Miss Neewslady, it's a performative part of your personality. But 745 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 2: it's not like then people don't know you for real, 746 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 2: they don't know you and your bonnet, no makeup, you 747 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 2: know what I mean. So, and I think the internet 748 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 2: will take as much of you as you can give it, 749 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 2: and then they will turn it against you at times. 750 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 3: So it's it's not wise to do either. 751 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: And it's a double edged sword, right, Like I've been 752 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: very clear on whatever you share about let's say your relationship, 753 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: they then feel entitled too. For sure. 754 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 3: For sure, I don't know you nothing, but these jokes, 755 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 3: these jokes with Robert. 756 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 4: That's all the boys, real quick, wake it up. 757 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 3: I love this well, Jeanette. Please let you You've been amazing. 758 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: I feel honored that you shared some stuff with me 759 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 2: because I'm no journalists, you know, I just try to 760 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 2: ask good questions and shut the hell up. 761 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 3: But I appreciate you share that did good. 762 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, no, I was going to say you 763 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: were amazing. But you know what, I think it is 764 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: with you, and I think that's part of what makes 765 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: you such a good comedian. I think you have to be. 766 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: You have to show a genuine interest in people and 767 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: make them feel comfortable and introduce some comedy. So you're great. 768 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 2: That's why I think I'm going to really struggle if 769 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 2: I ever have to do this show with somebody I 770 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 2: don't know and I don't know anything about, because everybody 771 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 2: so far I've been like a true fan of so 772 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: I'm genuinely ask you these questions. So it's gonna be 773 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 2: on the producers to give me something because I'd be like, ooh, girl, 774 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 2: tell me what. 775 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 3: Happened in Rhode Island. I ain't even know you got 776 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 3: robbed and you were seventeen. That's crazy. 777 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 2: But if you, if I don't know you and I 778 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 2: don't have no time, I don't know if the cracks 779 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 2: will start to show. But before we let you go, 780 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 2: and please let the people know where they can find you, 781 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 2: how they can follow you, all the things you say 782 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 2: at the end of podcasts. 783 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: Yes you can find me, Miss Newslady MS Newslady. This 784 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 1: was pre marriage on TikTok, Instagram threads, and off the 785 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: record AWF on YouTube and Instagram as well. 786 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 2: All right, ladies and gentlemen, this has been Jeanette Reyes. 787 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 2: I've been Kevin on sage. Thanks for watching or listening 788 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 2: to Not My Best Moment, and we'll see you next week. 789 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 2: This has been a unanimous media original. Not My Best 790 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 2: Moment was produced by iHeart Podcasts. And Unanimous Media. It 791 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: was hosted by Me Kevin Fredericks. Executive produced by Stephen Curry, 792 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 2: Eric Payton and Charlotte Sumter Vijet Co executive producer Kelenna 793 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,479 Speaker 2: Maria Cutney. The executive producers at iHeart Podcasts are Sean 794 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 2: tit Tone and Jason English. This series was produced by 795 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 2: Peter Calter and Jabari Davis. Co producer Kurt Redmond. Special 796 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 2: thanks to Stephen Curry and Will Pearson. Not My Best 797 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 2: Moment as a production of Unanimous Media and iHeart Podcasts. 798 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 2: For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app. 799 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 2: Have a podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.