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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's Ashley and Ben is reporting to us from Mexico,

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Speaker 1: not Paradise, just a nice little vacation with his friends. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a nice vacation. It's great. So Jessica and I

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Speaker 1: are getting ready to celebrate one year of marriage. Just

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Speaker 1: mind blowing short things. Um, it is mind blowing. It's

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Speaker 1: been a great year. We like to joke with each

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Speaker 1: other that we have to re up our contract after

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Speaker 1: a year of marriage because the data shows that if

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Speaker 1: you make it through a year of marriage, then if

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Speaker 1: your first year goes well, then you're more likely to

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Speaker 1: make it to five years. You make it five years,

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Speaker 1: you're very likely to make it to fifteen. I feel

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Speaker 1: like we're flying. So I think tonight we have contract

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Speaker 1: negotiations to see if we're gonna re up this or not. Um,

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Speaker 1: and I feel pretty good about my chances. You know,

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Speaker 1: still stay at husband. That's awesome. Can I tell you

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Speaker 1: that people say that the first year of marriage is

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Speaker 1: the hardest. That is a total lie. If the first

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Speaker 1: year is hard, that I'm worried for you. The hardest

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Speaker 1: year of marriage is the one in which you have

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Speaker 1: a child. That makes sense. So let me know first,

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Speaker 1: here's been a lot of fun report back on the

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Speaker 1: contract negotiations after that one, I will um, well, the puppy.

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Speaker 1: You know, we got a puppy in the first year

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Speaker 1: who was actually getting neutered as we speak. My wonderful

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Speaker 1: mother is staying with Whalen in Denver, and as we

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Speaker 1: record this, I'm gonna be checking my text because he

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Speaker 1: is in surgery. I am a nervous father, um, dog father,

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Speaker 1: And because people get mad at me when I called

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Speaker 1: my son and they're like, he's now your son used

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Speaker 1: your dog. Well, okay, he's my dog son. Um. But

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Speaker 1: then also Ash, we're down here in Mexico because my

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Speaker 1: buddy who we've talked about the podcast, Brandon Um, who

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Speaker 1: was diagnosed with a l S a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: This was kind of his uh, kind of not ask

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Speaker 1: but he just kind of wanted to rally as many

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Speaker 1: friends as possible to come to Mexico with him while

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Speaker 1: he can still like enjoy it and have fun. And

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Speaker 1: so he is down here with his wife and a

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Speaker 1: few other friends. UM. I do want to give this

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Speaker 1: moment to give a little shout out to Brandon, Um,

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Speaker 1: the averages came out. Actually listen to this. If you

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Speaker 1: have a l S. Um it costs about a hundred

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Speaker 1: forty three thousand dollars a year to live with a

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Speaker 1: l S to get the proper treatment and care and

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Speaker 1: assistance and help. And so Brandon kind of by he

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Speaker 1: of came to some friends. Um, they're gonna be launching

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Speaker 1: kind of their own uh organization to help fund raise

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Speaker 1: not only for themselves but for others. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be more of a an advocacy and teaching organization that's

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Speaker 1: gonna show but teach people about a l S and

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Speaker 1: the truth behind LS. But then it's also really important

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Speaker 1: gonna be talking about that. Has that come out, But

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Speaker 1: we're down here with them and for Inverseitary. We've had

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Speaker 1: a great trip so far, but I can't, you know,

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Speaker 1: I can't stay away from almost famous podcasts. We have

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Speaker 1: to jump on here and talk about these weeks, this

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Speaker 1: week's episodes. I actually feel like I'm gonna have my

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Speaker 1: best podcast ever today because I'm in pairs while I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about here. Okay, cool, Well, then let's take a

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Speaker 1: quick break and we'll dive into Lace and Rodney. Right boy,

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Speaker 1: let's go, all right, Layson Rodney. We all saw it coming.

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Speaker 1: The whole audience knew that Rodney was going to have

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Speaker 1: to have that really crappy talk with Lace tell her

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Speaker 1: that he was more into Eliza. We see it happen,

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Speaker 1: and it was more dramatic than I think we ever anticipated.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say this though, from somebody who was down

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Speaker 1: there than it came across on TV. That's fair, I

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Speaker 1: navigating this really difficult and painful situation. Yeah, there's always

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Speaker 1: And then Ronnie is kind of happy. Well, he's not happy.

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Speaker 1: He's feels so horrible that he had to, you know,

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Speaker 1: then if this is really what you desire in romantic relationships,

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Speaker 1: it is hard. But I want to ask you, and

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Speaker 1: very messy, but you just got to go through with

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Speaker 1: to about Lace. When she does find her person, like

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Speaker 1: Let's let's blaze her bachelorette How how entertaining would that be?

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Speaker 1: let's do it. Why not it would be you know,

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Speaker 1: she she shows and expresses everything she's feeling, even if

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Speaker 1: she's not afraid to ask very poignant questions, and mostly

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Speaker 1: she's not she's not afraid to make fun of other

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Speaker 1: people and herself, which makes it all very entertaining. Exactly.

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Speaker 1: but it was intentional. I know she's brilliant, she really is.

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Speaker 1: The Bachelor, like some of that, like just messing with people.

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Speaker 1: I want to imagine she was in there and she's like,

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Speaker 1: mess with these dudes. Someone might be happy, some might

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Speaker 1: be sad. But here's here's a little thing I'm gonna share. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's guys at the house. They're being a great Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then there's gonna be no guys for the girls. Come on, now,

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Speaker 1: that's so crazy. I can't possibly been the first time

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Speaker 1: And Brandon freaks out, which is hilarious, but like, there's

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Speaker 1: because it's kind of like his moment where he's like,

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Speaker 1: So over at the house, it's pretty embarrassing because Jesse

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Speaker 1: and like, she didn't tell me anything about where her

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00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: experience went, so she could still be with this dude.

427
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 1: I just have no idea, and I sometimes like to know.

428
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's her mystery. That's what's what's one

429
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: of the things that's so alluring about her. Yeah, there's

430
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: a lot of mystery to it, but it does go

431
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: feel like it's a great day. It feels like their

432
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: relationship could be something exciting, and it doesn't have kind

433
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: of the paradise passion that you oftentimes see how it's say,

434
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: like where it's like they just make out and that's

435
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: all they do for an hour and a half. It

436
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: feels like their date is very much a like a

437
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: normal first day sit down. Have to have a conversation,

438
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: get to know each other, see where your guys interests are,

439
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: where you want to see this go. Uh And so

440
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: I do think there's some like some some strength to it,

441
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 1: and it would make a lot of sense to me.

442
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: I mean they relate like those two together make a

443
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: lot of sense to me, because yeah, she might be

444
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: kind of this like mysterious, very attractive, very like funny,

445
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: witty human. But then you have Alex who might just

446
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: be as equally mysterious as you know, he's very attractive, um,

447
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: and we haven't seen a lot from him, So who knows,

448
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, what they bring out in each other and

449
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: where this goes from here? Yeah, why isn't this guy

450
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: scooped up? That's my question? That's a good question, all right.

451
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: Brittany and Tyler, they're like the next couple that is

452
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: forming over at Fandanta. Tyler went on a date with

453
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: a last week. But basically, Brittany and Tyler are saying,

454
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's you, it's you. This is like the

455
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: first couple we can actually say has formed because of

456
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: the split they you know, it's just Senya and Andrew

457
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: are a thing back to the beach, and now Brittany

458
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 1: and Tyler are a thing in Pandanta. So it's just

459
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: this is actually going to be clean, you know what

460
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, you would expect at this point in

461
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: the episode, you expected to be clean because of how

462
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: it's set up. I thought Andrew and Brittany had something.

463
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: I'm actually they're cute. They're very cute. Yeah, where this

464
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: is going I do want to spend and it is

465
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: kind of the closing scene of this episode. I think

466
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: it's where we could probably end our breakdown of this

467
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: episode because I think it's the last really important storyline

468
00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: that we haven't covered. But you know, Snay still feels

469
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: and and I actually want to dig into this a

470
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: little bit. She still obviously feels like there is something

471
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: between her and Tyler. There is a weird statement though,

472
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: that happens before the scene where Tyler and Brittany are

473
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: making out, where she is talking to Genevieve. I've been saying,

474
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: I know Logan's not with anybody else in the beach,

475
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: because if he is, I would cut off his and

476
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: it bleeps it out, So I don't know what she says.

477
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 1: I have an assumption of what she's going to cut

478
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: off if he's with somebody else, and I'm one at

479
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: this point, I'm very confused, and you need to help

480
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: me understand this, because why would she be upset with

481
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: love Logan for moving on from her when she and

482
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: her mind has moved on to Tyler or has she

483
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: really moved on to Tyler? And she just more um

484
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: oddly protective and wanting like Tyler and Logan. But it's

485
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: not making sense to me because in one voice, she

486
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: sounds like she's still in the Logan and wants to

487
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: be with Logan and doesn't want Logan to anybody else

488
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: and the other boys. It sounds like she doesn't want

489
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: Brittany to date Tyler and she wants Tyler to be

490
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: with her, But yet the Tyler connection has been gone

491
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: since that date. We haven't seen any um since that date,

492
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: and so you gotta help me make sense of this.

493
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: My interpretation is just that she doesn't want anybody with

494
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: Tyler because like she went on a date with him

495
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: kind of like claimed in in her head, and then

496
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: she's still waiting to be with Logan, like she kind

497
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: of wants all her options. Basically, she wants to be

498
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: like I am going to make the choice between whether

499
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: I want to be a Tyler or whether I want

500
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: to be with Logan, and she just doesn't like that

501
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: Logan is now seemingly off the table. Yeah. Yeah, I

502
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: mean I'm not saying it's like right or makes sense,

503
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: but like it's a girl's brain and if a guy's

504
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: brain too. You know, this is just like we're in Paradise,

505
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,479
Speaker 1: things are getting competitive. She doesn't want to feel like

506
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: she's being rejected by anyone, but she's obviously in front

507
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: of her face. Yeah, her, the competition is is there,

508
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: and she's like looking at this as like she lost

509
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: one of the competitions to Brittany. Yeah, okay, that makes sense, uh,

510
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: that it's more of a competition. Feel the whole idea

511
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: of it doesn't make sense to me because I was like, Okay,

512
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: she's going after Tyler. Now, this whole Logan thing, whatever

513
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: he's worried about, you know, is done. She's gonna come

514
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: back to the beach and have moved on from him.

515
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: So that's all good. Now she's focused on Tyler. But

516
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: then she makes these statements that like, so she's still

517
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: in the Logan, still in the Tyler, but ship she

518
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: feels like she's more into Tyler right now because he's

519
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: who's in front of her. Um. The Brittany and Tyler connection, Um,

520
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: it's obviously there, and I think it's been there since

521
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: night one. He you know, this then date kind of like,

522
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: uh was like kind of a detour. But I always

523
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: felt like there was no shot Tyler and Brittany weren't

524
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: going to get back together. Like their chemistry and how

525
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: they he like talked to the first night. I felt

526
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: like it was always something was gonna pull them back together.

527
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: I do think this relationships makes a lot of sense.

528
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't understand still why Chane is going to be

529
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: so mad and confrontational on it. Um, I think she's

530
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: just being Yeah, that makes and it was the day

531
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: they were like drinking. So I mean, there we go.

532
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: That's what it was. That's what it was. I also

533
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: just want to add about that comment about cutting off

534
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: his thing. That is a little strange that she I

535
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: think it's a little strange that she feels so certain

536
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: that Logan is hers when she goes back, because they

537
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: were never super strong. She never was like I at

538
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: the end of it all, she was like, yeah, I

539
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: choose you, right, But she was always in between him

540
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: and like someone else, James James. I mean she was

541
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: with James up until the moment she picked Logan. Yeah,

542
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: the whole thing. I don't think you know, you have

543
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: to kind of like disregard some of the emotion behind

544
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: it and say, okay, what's the actual story. Like she

545
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: was with James, she chose Logan last minute, next day

546
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: they split up. The relationship isn't super strong, It doesn't

547
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: have a lot of like backstory to it. She goes

548
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: into the house, goes on a date with Tyler. Uh,

549
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: obviously Tyler is showing interesting. Now somebody else. So she's

550
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: back thinking about Logan and saying, yeah, there's no way

551
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: Logan to be with anybody else, Like, I'd be super

552
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: here if he was when in reality, we know he's

553
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: been with two other people since today has been there. Um,

554
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: so he's definitely moved on. But if you go back

555
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: an episode, you remember that even Logan had a hard

556
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: time processing what the right and wrong decision was here,

557
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: um and and how. But it doesn't feel like that's

558
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: on his mind anymore. It feels like he's pretty sold

559
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: out on Kate and uh. And in the next episode, um,

560
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: that we'll talk about and have about tomorrow. I'm sure

561
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: we're going to see the nai K Logan interaction, which, uh,

562
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: which will be interesting to say at least for sure,

563
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: because I do believe that they had a little drama

564
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: women tell all and play throughout their entire Clayton season. Okay, well,

565
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: where you're going to take a quick break and we're

566
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: going to get to Bachelor headlines after this. It's time

567
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: for Bachelor headlines. Well, this one's an interesting one. Michael

568
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 1: a who obviously came into Paradise as a fan favorite.

569
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: I still believe he is a fan favorite. He is

570
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: they a very well known character on from The Bachelor

571
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: at going into Paradise. Uh, we've you know, saying his

572
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: praises on this show because he's a great guy. Um,

573
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: but he's gotten a lot of heat over the last

574
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: two weeks. Some of it deserved for how he handled

575
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: some of the situations in Paradise, and it's been interesting

576
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: to read and follow along. So here it is. Here's

577
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: the headline. Michael A admits he could have handled the

578
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: breakup better with Sierra Jackson. This according to People. Okay, well,

579
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: he said that taking a rose when your heart's not

580
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: in it is leading someone on. Choosing to end my

581
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: only relationship when I was gifted a constellation and didn't

582
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: have a rose was not a good look. But I

583
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: knew that. Um he says, I still should have handled

584
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: the breakup better. That's on me. I don't know. He's

585
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: beginning so much flag about this, and I understand that,

586
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: Like it was such a sucky situation for Sierra. I

587
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: know that she. I understand why she feels a little

588
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: bit betrayed because he and Danielle did have a bit

589
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: of a rapport going on, never met in real life.

590
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: There was definitely like a plan behind the scenes, you know,

591
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: to bring Danielle in and like them to hit it off.

592
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: I get that, I see it. We all see. It

593
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: was very much like what we were saying with Demi

594
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. But listen, there's not much

595
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: else he could have done, in my opinion, then slow

596
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: Sierra down while they were dating like that. That is

597
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: probably where he messed up. He needed to say before

598
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: he actually broke up with her and be like, hey,

599
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: this is going a little fast. Hey I want to

600
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: hang out with you more, but this is going a

601
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: little too fast. He just needed to give her some

602
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: more yield signs, do you know what I mean? He

603
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: gave her no yield signs, and that's where he got

604
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: in trouble because it did seem so abrupt. I think so.

605
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was abrupt, and I think

606
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: it was confusing. And I think the one of the

607
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: other things here is when you do it and you

608
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: you don't give any yield signs, you really don't open

609
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: up the door for the other person to pursue talk

610
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: to somebody, and so you kind of like, if they're saying, King,

611
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: this person seemed sold out on me, I obviously sold

612
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: out on them. Let's run with this, and then when

613
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: it ends, you're kind of thrown off because all of

614
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: your opportunities and all of that, like the options availab

615
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: imparadis have been taken away. So I do I think

616
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: he could have slowed it down a bit. I think

617
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: he could have probably communicated better. Uh, you know, I don't.

618
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily going back to last week, I'm not

619
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: upset that, you know, Danielle's in Paradise and now we

620
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: get to see their relationship kind of go from here.

621
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: I am excited to watch that, and I think it's

622
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: one that could be very real and last to the

623
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: end of the show. But yeah, I mean, I think

624
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: it's a lesson learned. Uh you know, but how how

625
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: critical can we be of somebody for how they handle

626
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 1: relationships and paradise because relationships and paradise are so odd

627
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: just from the start, where you're dating people, multiple people

628
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: that are living in one house together. It's weird. So

629
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's thinking this through. I'm glad he came

630
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: out and kind of said he could have handled it better. Uh.

631
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: And yes, Sierra definitely got the short in the stick here.

632
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 1: She she was confused, thrown off, and now she sits

633
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: here going, well, that was not cool. What did I

634
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: get out of Paradise? I could have had another relationship. Yeah. Um,

635
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: next in line is this Roomy or Alexander If you

636
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: remember him, he was on you remember him, he was

637
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: just kind of there for a bid, reveals his bachelo

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Speaker 1: in Paradise regrets I was uncertain this According to full

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Speaker 1: Batchel Nation article, basically, he's just saying that if you

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Speaker 1: were to do it all over again, he wouldn't rush things.

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Speaker 1: He feels bad for like shutting Cara down quickly. He

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Speaker 1: it just feels like he should have like kept things

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Speaker 1: a little bit more open ended, so it wasn't like

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, I am going to pursue you. I

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Speaker 1: am cutting you off. And then he just says in general,

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Speaker 1: he just doesn't have good game. Uh, he's not good

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Speaker 1: at like saying no, he's not kind of rejecting people.

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Speaker 1: He admits that he was awkward, and he says this

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Speaker 1: triangle was a tricky thing. As much as I was

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Speaker 1: proud of myself for day one for saying I wanted

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00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: to pursue Jill, in retrospect, that was a mistake. I

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00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: really should have held back a little bit. I would

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Speaker 1: like to know whether he's still with Kia. Do we

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Speaker 1: get this answer now, or do we get it like,

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Speaker 1: I guess it's going to be at the reunion show,

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00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: so he's probably not allowed to say anything yet. I

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00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: have to be at through union show, um, and we'll

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00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: have to look for that. Then final headline is bachelor Lemptino,

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Speaker 1: who was the one that Rachel picked on the last

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00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: season of The Bachelorette, reveals that Evan Jones did reach

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Speaker 1: out to apologize after awkward finale moment. This according to

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Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise article. Okay, so, as you remember, in

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Speaker 1: a very traumatic scene, or at least it was for

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Speaker 1: me and Tino, and me as a viewer and Tino

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Speaker 1: as a human being on stage, he was sitting up there,

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Speaker 1: things are going very horribly with Rachel, and then Aven

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00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: came up and and said, hey, Richel, can I basically

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Speaker 1: steal you for a segment? And it was just the

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Speaker 1: most demoralizing moment I've ever seen on live TV. Well, Aven,

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Speaker 1: Aven was not did not really know that that was

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Speaker 1: how the situation was going to unfold, And he did

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Speaker 1: text Tino, and this is how Tino describes what went

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Speaker 1: down between him and even after that moment. Because Aven's

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Speaker 1: a great dude. Aven's super nice, always been straightforward, super accountable.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he knew I was going to be

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00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: out there when he came out and he reached out

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00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: the night of after the Final Rose, when I think

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00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: my phone was off because I was getting too many texts.

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00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: It was really overwhelming, and he texted me and said, um, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm really sorry. That was tough, And then they talked

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Speaker 1: on the phone the next day. He said that he

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Speaker 1: didn't know that it was going that he was going

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Speaker 1: to make him look, you know, it was gonna be

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00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: just an embarrassing situation, and he said, I think he

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Speaker 1: just went on there with the intention of cheering up Rachel,

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't supposed to be like a I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to get the girl back situation. Yeah. Yeah, well, I'm

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00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: sure there was obviously, like we always think there's more

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00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: to the story than what we see, and it didn't

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Speaker 1: ever feel like Even was going to intentionally embarrass Tino

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00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: or want to embarrass him on stage. It's just kept

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Speaker 1: and how it happened. But we haven't had nothing really

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Speaker 1: on Even and Rachel since that little date they went on.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's over and done with and everybody's moving on,

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Speaker 1: and that it was what it was and uh, you

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Speaker 1: know whatever. Well, in this episode with a very exciting announcement,

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Speaker 1: Lauren Bushnell Lane shares update on baby number two with

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Speaker 1: husband Chris nothing but peaceful and perfect. This according to People, yep,

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Speaker 1: she said that the baby named Baker weston our little

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Speaker 1: Man surprises in nine Days Early, late Sunday night, still

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Speaker 1: laughing thinking about my water breaking, very aggressive movie like

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00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 1: situation driving to the hospital in Chris's truck pants less

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Speaker 1: by the way, because my car was out of gas

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Speaker 1: and Dutton was sleeping. It was very chaotic. Up, why

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Speaker 1: would you be pantless because your cars? Ok? So this

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Speaker 1: is I okay, So no, she's using parentheses in this writing.

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Speaker 1: So she says, but that's a great question. Driving myself

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Speaker 1: driving herself to the hospital in Chris's truck pants less

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Speaker 1: by the way. But she's driving herself in Chris's truck

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Speaker 1: because her car was out of gas and Dutton was sleeping.

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Speaker 1: Question though, who'd she leave Dutton with? Good question? It

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Speaker 1: feels do like a movie scene, like one of those

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Speaker 1: like random like nine days early, unexpected. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I got it to the hospital. Here we go, breaths,

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Speaker 1: bring the F one straight down. The highway. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is like such a this is such a question though,

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Speaker 1: what do you do if your kid is sleeping and

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Speaker 1: you're the only one home, you go into labor? Do

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Speaker 1: you just let them sleep in the crib and then

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Speaker 1: just have a friend be like, go go over to

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Speaker 1: the house right now? I would? I mean, it sounds

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Speaker 1: like it because what I'm confused on and we need

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Speaker 1: we need more backstory here. But why was you know,

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Speaker 1: why wasn't there anybody else driving? Doesn't sound like Chris

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Speaker 1: was home? Yeah, so was there nobody else around? So

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Speaker 1: she's just like, yeah, somebody grew into the house. I

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Speaker 1: gotta go to do this? Who knows? That sounds like

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Speaker 1: a wild scenario, but it all seems to work out.

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Speaker 1: I needed to know more of this story. But yes,

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Speaker 1: she says that the story before him coming was chaotic,

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Speaker 1: unplanned and panicked, but the moment he came into this

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Speaker 1: world has been nothing but peaceful and perfect. So that's

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Speaker 1: that's cute. Cute, And the names the names of the

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Speaker 1: kids are cute because they match sort of. It's Dutton

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Speaker 1: Walker and Baker Weston. It's cute. Yeah, that's great. Well,

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Speaker 1: congratulates two of them very excited for them. Ashley, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna jump right back on tomorrow. I have another episode

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Speaker 1: of a Bachelor Paradise recap, so everybody out there stay

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Speaker 1: tuned for that. But until then, I've been. Then, I've been, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: see tomorrow. Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous

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