1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. Put up everybody. 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre here Straight Fire, Tuesday, November three. I'm trying 3 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: to put a brave face on it and stay excited 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: for sports. NFL Trade Dadeline is today, uh four pm Eastern, 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: so one o'clock my time out here. Could be a 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: lot of moves and goodness, gracious of my praying for 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: a lot of trades. I would love it if something 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: happened with Michael Thomas. Obviously, that would be massive. I 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: don't think it happens, but we know a lot of 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: teams have needs and folks, the big news is if 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: there is a trade, a big one, it's at least 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: gonna take some bite for a few hours out of election. 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: That's obviously the big story in America on the planet today. 14 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: And you know I talked about it with the wife 15 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: and with Rob G. I even brought my kids into it, 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: and I said, guys, you know what do we do 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: with the podcast? Do we did? Do? We talk elected 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: to I do the best bet on who's gonna win? 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: And the consensus was to stay the hell out of it. Jason, 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, Rob G does this for a living, 21 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: he's a producer of a big time radio show and 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: I've known him for several years now. Um, he's a 23 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: rising producing star in the industry. And you know he 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: he told me something smart. He said, Listen, there's a 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: lot of good podcasts out there that can talk politics 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: and dive deep into what's happening in Pennsylvania and Florida 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: and Texas and everything. And I'm not gonna be offended 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: if you don't want to dive into twenty five minutes 29 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: here of NFL talk. Um, I I won't. I understand. Listen, 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: there are bigger things at play, bigger things of foot. 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: But I'm hoping I can give you twenty to twenty 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: five minutes to take your mind away from that crap, 33 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: because trust me, the arrest of that day, I know 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be diving in. I did see a good 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: post that I put it on my Instagram stories. There 36 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: are some tips on how to avoid stress. Uh, and listen, 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: this is a high stress day. I gotta keep it 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: a hunter with you, guys. I texted my mom, my dad, 39 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: my brother, and I said, guys, this was on Monday morning. 40 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: I said, guys, maybe not a terrible idea just to 41 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: go to the grocery store get a couple of extra 42 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: items in case things get whacky out there. And I 43 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen. I hope people come to 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: their senses and all this nonsense about boarding up businesses 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: and um, police on high alert. I hope all that 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: stuff's nonsense, and I hope it's just fear. We all 47 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: know where the fears coming from, the election and uncertainty. UM. 48 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I did tell my parents that and they agreed, 49 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: like that's probably the smart move. I myself made a 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: trip to the grocery store on Monday, just a quick 51 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: stop in, picked a couple of items up, and UM, 52 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, guys, I hope we get through this fine. 53 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: But let's let's just go back to sports here for 54 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: a moment quickly touch On Monday night football, the Bucks 55 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: survived I guess two big takeaways number one, and we 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: kind of saw this coming. Tampa Bay had New Orleans 57 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: on the mind. They were never in this game. You 58 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: could tell they were going through the motions. Down fourteen three. 59 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: Late in the first half, they get that field goal, 60 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: and then the second half, you know, I'm sure Tom 61 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: Brady yelled at some people in the locker room, and 62 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: Tampa took over and we also saw the second take 63 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: was Danny Dimes. The real Danny Dimes showed up in 64 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: the first half, and I joked that, Um, listen, I 65 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: did not sober October, but coffee less October, where I 66 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: tried my best to not go to Starbucks and get 67 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: the coffee. And I did it well for nine days. 68 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: And then we had a quick trip down to San Diego. 69 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: And I know it was a long trip. It was 70 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: the day of a radio show. I said, just so 71 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: I don't fall asleep, I should hit Starbucks, and of 72 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: course that opened the floodgates, and I think I ended 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: up going gosh, don't laugh. I think eight times in 74 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: the month of October, I did my best. Um. But 75 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: then with the time change in the sleep, yeah, making excuses. 76 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: I know, I couldn't help myself. And I can tell 77 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: you one thing, no coffee today for me, foe show. 78 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. Um. I I just I could 79 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: see the real Danny Dimes showing up in the second half, 80 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: and he did on Monday Night football two picks. Um 81 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: he did make that nice drive there at the end 82 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,119 Speaker 1: of the game to get them the touchdown, beautiful past 83 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: the Golden Tate and that was, you know, the Daniel 84 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: Dimes experience. Okay, solid first half, missed a couple of 85 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: big plays that he could have hit. Second half too bad. 86 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: Picks set up to go ahead score for Tampa, and 87 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: then he was able to throw the touchdown to nearly tie, 88 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: and the two point conversion was a mess. He had 89 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: the kid open, but he was The throw was so 90 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: damn late that Winfield made a great play and I think, 91 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, the reps were right to pick up the flag. Yes, 92 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: I did have Tampa in my survivor pool, and I 93 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: I didn't really think it was gonna be a sweat 94 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: like that, but yeah, you never know. You coin toss 95 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: in overtime, a turnover, blah blah blah. But Tampa survives. 96 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: They moved to six and two. They have their big 97 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: game next week against the Saints on Sunday Night Football, 98 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: and tomorrow we'll talk a little bit more about Week nine. 99 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, as soon as that line 100 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: goes up, I will be betting Tampa Bay against New Orleans. 101 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: I think it'll probably be three and a half or four. 102 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: I take nothing away from tonight's performance. Remember, Antonio Brown 103 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: will be there, godwin maybe there. They will be at home. 104 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: There'll be fans in the stadium, the Saints second straight 105 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: road game. Already love Tampa. On Sunday Night Football UM 106 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: asked for the Giants. They're now one in seven and 107 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: a legit contender for that number one pick. My Jets 108 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: O and eight. The Jags and the Texans also one win, 109 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: but they play this week. Houston will win that game. 110 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: And then you've got Jacksonville has pulled Minshoe due to 111 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: the finger, and Mike Glennan is gonna be starting, So 112 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: it's essentially Sam Donald, Danny Dimes, and Mike Glennit. Jacksonville 113 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: is full tank Bote. We know that we'll see if 114 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: they trade anybody today at the deadline, but those are 115 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: the three teams from men mix for the number one pick. 116 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: Justin Fields will probably go to. But keep an eye 117 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: on the kid Trey Lance. We've talked about that all right. Yes, 118 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: the best bet whift another loss down to not ideal. 119 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: We will revisit that Thursday. Trust me, I've got a 120 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: winner Thursday. I really like the Packers game, but I 121 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: think the big story, bigger than Bucks Giants. Today is 122 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: gonna be the Jimmy Garoppolo situation in San Francisco. UM. 123 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: The news came out I guess midday Monday, late out 124 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: early afternoon that not only is George Kittle, the great 125 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: forty Niners tight end out for about seven or eight weeks, 126 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: but Jimmy Garoppolo reaggravated the high ankle spring in the 127 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: Seattle loss and he's gonna be out for at least 128 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: six games, which probably means we won't see him again 129 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: this season. Sure, he could come back, but it doesn't 130 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: look good for Jimmy g and I think the big 131 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: picture takeaway is this, Jimmy Garoppo signed a five year 132 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: to one and thirty seven and a half million dollar 133 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: deal in and he's gotten all of his guaranteed money. 134 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: And that's the big red flag here. I don't think 135 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo will be the starting quarterback of the forty 136 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: nine urs in Week one next year. I don't think 137 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: that's a hot take. I don't think of going overboard here. 138 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm not bashing the guy. I like Garoppolo, but he 139 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: is an injury prone quarterback. Folks. This goes back to 140 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: his time in New England with the Patriots. If you remember, 141 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: Tom Brady was suspended for the first four games. Jimmy 142 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: G finally gets his chance to start, wins the opener. 143 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: It was against I believe Arizona, which was coming off 144 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: that NFC Championship game, and I remember because I bet 145 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: Arizona was like, oh, no, Brady, Patriots are going down. 146 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: Jimmy G was dominant. WHOA, this guy's good. Second game, 147 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy G. Same deal. He's looking great against the Dolphins, 148 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: winning the game. Boo gets his shoulder torn up. Okay, 149 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: this is the beginning of the serious injuries for Garoppolo. 150 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: So they end up trading him. We don't need to 151 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: revisit that. He goes to San Francisco. He fills in 152 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the season pretty admirably. After the 153 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: trade and at the beginning of he is in game 154 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: number three against the Chiefs and he's just running and 155 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: he goes out of bounds a normal play and like 156 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: tears his A c L. He's like, oh my goodness. 157 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: Done for the year, played three only at three starts. 158 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen, Garoppolo goes to the Super Bowl. He's healthy 159 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: and they were within eight minutes of winning a Super Bowl. 160 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo hurt and he's hurt again, and now he's 161 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: heard again, and listen. I don't wanna say I don't 162 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: like Jimmy G. His numbers are good. He's a I 163 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: would say, a slightly above average quarterback, but you can 164 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: see how at times he holds back this offense. Um, 165 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: I like Jimmy G. I don't love him. I think 166 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: he could certainly, as we saw last year, if you 167 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: get the defense, you have the running game, he could 168 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: beat you with the play action. He's a good quarterback, 169 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: but I don't think he's a franchise quarterback for the 170 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: forty niners. So if you're San Francisco, I think a 171 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: lot of people will say, boy, Kyle Shanahan offensive mastermind. 172 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: He's had some good offenses in San France, but they 173 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: haven't gone to what he had in Atlanta. But he 174 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: had Maddie Ice, and he had Julio Jones, and he 175 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: had Davonte Freeman and Kevin Coleman. And remember he did 176 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: rescue Coleman after Coleman was done in Atlanta. Does he 177 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: have the same affinity for Matt Ryan? Are the Falcons 178 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: in position to say, you know what, We're gonna move 179 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: on from Mattie Ice. We're gonna rebuild. We're getting a 180 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: new coach, and the new coach is gonna want his quarterback. 181 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: The new GM is gonna want his quarterback. Maybe Atlanta 182 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: moves on from Mattie Ice. But my theory, and again 183 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm a Jets guy, so I will float this, but 184 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: I think it makes more sense. And here's why. Why 185 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't the forty Niners called in New York Jets and say, 186 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: you know what, Sam Donald is on his rookie deal. 187 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: He's done absolutely nothing to warrant a massive contracts, so 188 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: we don't have to pay him Jimmy G money. He 189 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: hasn't proven squat nothing, He hasn't proven anything. He's a 190 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: good quarterback, promising quarterback, but we haven't seen it. We've 191 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: seen a lot of guys look good and never deliver. 192 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: I don't know he's say m Donald gonna be an 193 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: awesome quarterback. I thought he would be coming out of USC. 194 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm still a believer. But the problem is we haven't 195 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: seen it yet. We've seen glimpses. We've also seen glimpses 196 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: of turnover prone football. I don't know if he totally 197 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: fits what Shanahan wants to do in San franc But 198 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: if you can get Donald not have to pay him 199 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: a ton, you can quickly rebuild that secondary, which has 200 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: gotten old, and you can quickly rebuild the skill position players, 201 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: which you know, given the injuries, they don't have much. 202 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: As soon as Deebo Samuel went down, that offense is like, oh, 203 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: what do we have her? Brandon Aiyuk? Really, that's it? 204 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: George Kittle's down down? What do you have? They got nothing? 205 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: They're like the fifth string running back. There's I mean, 206 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: the forty Niners need to go out and make a 207 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: play for Sam Donald. That is the smart move. Now 208 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: what do you give up? I don't know. Forty Niners 209 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: could be drafting high if Nick Bolland's plays poor, they 210 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: could be looking at like a top eleven twelve pick 211 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: in the draft. Um, the schedule is difficult because they 212 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: got first place last year and went to the Super Bowl, 213 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: so you got the tough schedule. So I don't think 214 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna be winning a ton of games. I don't 215 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: see why they don't kick the tires on Sam Donald 216 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: and make a move on from Jimmy Garoppolo. I think 217 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: that's a smart move. Now, rob G will tell you 218 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: that Maddie Ice is the guy. Rob G, I know 219 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: you're a huge Maddie Ice fan. Um, but I don't 220 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: know what. Why does Maddie Ice make sense over Sam Donald. Well, 221 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: I am a big Mattie Ice fan of having my 222 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: fantasy team which is now seven one on the season, 223 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: so shout out to Mattie Ice. Yeah, my team is loaded. 224 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: But um, I I while I think you're Sam Donald 225 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: trade idea makes some sense, I'm just not confident that 226 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: he is a high end NFL quarterback. I think that 227 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: I've seen enough of him. You know that he's not bad. 228 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: He's not definitely not as bad as Adam Gates makes 229 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: him seem. I just don't know if he's that good. 230 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: And I've already seen what Matt Ryan looks like with 231 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. That defense is super Bowl ready, that running 232 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: game is super Bowl ready. They just need a quarterback 233 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: who can get him over the hump in those tight moments. 234 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: And Jimmy g who I think is wildly mediocre, I 235 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: don't think he's anywhere close to above average. He's definitely 236 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: good enough when when they're healthy to get the fort 237 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl, which we saw last year, He's 238 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: gonna have to win a Super Bowl. The problem is, 239 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: just like we saw in the Super Bowl, the last 240 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: twelve minutes, he was three for eleven for thirty six 241 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: yards and a pick Faster rating of two point eight, 242 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: and he missed a wide open Emmanuel Sanders for the 243 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: game when he touchdown. So I'm more confident going back 244 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: to the Matt Ryan Sam Donald. I'm more confident in 245 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's ability to make those throws than I am 246 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: in Sam Donald. And I think with a team that's 247 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: already as we've seen, super Bowl caliber, you go with 248 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: the moishure thing. So my issue with Mattie Ice is 249 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: he turned thirty five back in January, favorite March, April, 250 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: May May of so at the beginning of next season, 251 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: he'll be thirty six years old. A lot of tread 252 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: on those tires now. He has been very healthy throughout 253 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: his career. I mean, this is a super durable guy. Um. 254 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: Mattie Ice has been a franchise rock in Atlanta forever. Um. 255 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: You know, looks like he has only missed a hand, 256 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: missed one game last year and then you have to 257 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: go back to the last game he missed his back. 258 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: In two thousand nine, he missed two games. Um, I 259 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: don't know if one of those is like a week 260 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: sixteen sit out, I'd have to dive deep. But this 261 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: guy's been healthy his entire career and just a couple 262 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: of years ago. Remember a thirty eight touchdowns year they 263 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl to twenty and eighteen thirty 264 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: five touchdowns. Um, yeah, Matt, there's no question Matt Ryan 265 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: is in elite quarterback. He is a Hall of Fame quarterback. 266 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: But thirty six years old, Rob g I mean you 267 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: thirty six years old, big big arms? I mean doing 268 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: the last of thing is he's never been super reliant 269 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: on having a big arm. You know, when you got 270 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: Julio Jones, is that hard? Mean, one of the great 271 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: receivers of his generation. This guy's he's more of a 272 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: precision passer. And as we've seen with Tom Brady last night, 273 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: and even though I hate Tom Brady, Uh, Drew Brees, 274 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: you know eight, Aaron Rodgers. You know, thirty five isn't 275 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: what it used to be in today's NFL. When you 276 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: know you can't hit the quarterback at all, even if 277 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: you tap him on the top of the helmet, they're 278 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: gonna call a personal voul. You know, you're you're the 279 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: game is geared towards passing. He's not in a lot 280 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: of congestion, you know. So I think you're gonna see 281 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: guys play well deep into their late thirties. And I 282 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: think with Kyle Shannon's offense, I think that Matt Ryan 283 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: could do really well. Now let me toss out one 284 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: more name. Who's kind of between Matt Ryan and Sam Donald. 285 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: Someone who's had a lot of regular season success, he's 286 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: never had the supporting cast. He's with one of the 287 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: worst franchises in the league, and once again they're going downhill. 288 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: And that's my Detroit Lions and Matt Stafford. Where are 289 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: you on Matt Stafford. Let's say that the Lion said, 290 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: you know what, we're firing our GM, We're firing our coach. Guys, 291 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: do you want Matt Stafford or do you want to 292 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: just tear it down, start over and go the Matt 293 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: rule route where Carolina decided, you know what, let's bring 294 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: in a bridge quarterback in Teddy Bridgewater, ha ha, and 295 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: then let's evaluate from there. Um because let's I I 296 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: think Matt Stafford has tremendous upside. This guy is super talented. 297 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: I know, like listen last week against the Colts he 298 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: had a terrible pick six and in the first fumble 299 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: of the season. But this is a guy who's still 300 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: in his prime, just turned thirty two. Matt Stafford has 301 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: played with probably the least um amount of support of 302 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: any quarterback who's put up monster stats. Philip Rivers had Ladanian, Tomlinson, 303 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: Drew Brees has been surrounded by some Michael Thomas, best 304 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: receiver in the league, Like Matt Stafford has really never 305 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: had anything except for Megatron early in his career. And 306 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: you know they were This is a franchise that's been 307 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: really really bad for probably longer than anyone else, any 308 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: other franchise in the league. I got a good buddy 309 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: who listens to the podcast. He's a longtime Lions fan. 310 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: He grew up um somewhere in that area, I think, 311 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: and he's just now he's faced. He understands that, like listen, 312 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: our franchise sucks. Were never winning anything. He's to the 313 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: point where it's like we've never won anything. We're worse 314 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: than the Browns. Were worse than the Jets. Um, we're 315 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: never going to be anything. I mean, if that's the 316 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: outlook of the organization, I think you move on from 317 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: Stafford and say let's tear it completely down and find 318 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: a new number one pick to start over with. And frankly, 319 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: I know you like Matt Ryan. I like Matt Stafford 320 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: more than Matt Ryan. And I don't know if Sam 321 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: Donald is going to be as good of a quarterback 322 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: as Matt Stafford has been. Stafford has ridiculous numbers, but 323 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: of course no playoff wins thousand percent of those three 324 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: I would easily agree with you Matthew Stafford would be 325 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: the best option. I think number one. Like you said, 326 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: he's younger than than Matt Ryan's, it will have a 327 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: little bit longer than of a shelf life. And I 328 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: think he's a good quarterback. You know, I think, I 329 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: know he gets a bad rap. I know, my guy 330 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: Rob Parker calls him stat Patford because it has all 331 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: those stats in garbage time. But as you alluded to, 332 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: I think I want to say that the Lions have 333 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: only won one playoff game in like fifty years, so 334 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: it's not like it's just Matt Stafford is the problem. 335 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 1: Like you know, they have a history of losing them 336 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: a losing culture. They got rid of Jim Caldwell for 337 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: going to the playoffs in two or four years, so 338 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: they can bring in mat Patricia and who has been 339 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: terrible ever since. Um yeah, I mean i'd liked I 340 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: I think that, Um, we we're gonna see. I know 341 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: it's we're still halfway through the season and and we 342 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: can kind of project who's gonna be picking higher or not. 343 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: But because it is a quarterback rich draft, I think 344 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: you could see four guys going to top ten in 345 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: the NFL draft. You know, if depending how things shake 346 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: out with Atlanta Detroit, you know, there's some gonna be 347 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: some teams that have quarterbacks. They're gonna the Dallas Cowboys 348 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: you talked about earlier with Dak Prescott. They're gonna be 349 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: put to a decision because Trevor Lawrence, justin Fields, Tray Lance. 350 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: I think it's Zach Wilson, I believe from by. I mean, 351 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: there are some guys that and and we've talked about 352 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: this too off the air during the podcast. The most 353 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: valuable commodity in the NFL right now is a quarterback 354 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: On a rookie deal. So if if you can get 355 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: one of those four guys, you're gonna see some some veterans. 356 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: Maybe one of the mats that we talked about hit 357 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: the uh the trade block. And I think that the 358 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: Niners would be why to scoop up somebody well, because 359 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: Jimmy g is definitely not the answer. He just tossed 360 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: another name out there, Kirk Cousins in Minnesota. It feels 361 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: like his his time maybe close to the end. Uh. 362 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what's gonna happen with Zimmer 363 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: if he loses his job, but Kirk Cousins, they don't 364 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: love him in Minnesota. I want to quickly pivot because 365 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, I teased talking about this on the Monday Pod. 366 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: I I gotta say something about tourist performance. Okay, because 367 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough living out here in l A. 368 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: I get the local games on, so I had Rams Dolphins, 369 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: and of course I was financially invested in the Rams. 370 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: Great victory, um, but I watched that entire game pretty closely, 371 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: and I just want to say, like, I know, Miami 372 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: one and two have got a victory in his first performance, 373 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: but folks, I'm gonna be honest with you, he doesn't 374 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: look to be in the same class as Joe Burrow 375 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert. I mean it just it's just the 376 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: first impression. But he just looks small out there, and 377 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: he looked jittery. And I know it's a first start, 378 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: but you had two weeks to prepare, and like, I 379 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: mean two against the Rams. Was twelve of twenty two 380 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: for ninety three passing yards. Ninety three yards passing, He 381 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: was sacked, he fumbled. I mean, folks, Cooper Cup in 382 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: that game for the Rams had eleven catches. Dolphins receivers 383 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: Dolphins pass catchers had twelve. Now I know you're gonna say, 384 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: Jason the defense carried him in the special teams. I 385 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: got it, fine. Mini had eight first downs in that game. 386 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: They could not move the football with twa They had 387 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: a touchdown where they took over I think around the 388 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: thirty yard line and they were able to you know, 389 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: get any endzo and then they took over on the 390 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: one yard line due to another golf bumble and that's 391 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: a touchdown. And then they get the special teams in 392 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: the um and the fumble return for a touchdown. Miami 393 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: had no offense with Ta with two weeks to prepare nothing. 394 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: Their longest drive was thirty three yards. Their longest play 395 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: was fifteen yards to Uh. I kept like watching and 396 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, gosh, you gotta get him out of that pocket. 397 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: If if he doesn't have the quick Drew Brees release, 398 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: because that was the comp remember like, oh he drops 399 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: back quick release like Drew Brees. Um he dropped back 400 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: quick release like Russell Wilson. Uh, well, he better get 401 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: the ball out because he does not look as mobile 402 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: as he did in college. It's so crazy to at 403 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 1: Alabama was like, oh, this guy's dynamic. He can make 404 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: every play, he can make every throw. Well, then you 405 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: get to the NFL and everybody at every level is bigger, faster, stronger. 406 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: And my big takeaway was, oh my gosh, when that 407 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: pocket collapses on two, you're like losing him. Now. You 408 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: don't have that with Kyler Murray. He just seems like 409 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: a more natural runner now that could because he's never 410 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: had a significant injury. And maybe two was like gosh, 411 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: my hip. But I was wholly unimpressed with two. And 412 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: again I'm not making a sweeping generalization that he stinks 413 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: and he's too small to be an NFL quarterback, that 414 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: would be idiotic. First impression, looks small, looked a bit 415 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: the moment looked kind of big for him. And other 416 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: than some darts like quick dart passes on the short stuff, um, 417 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: I did not look come away from that like, Okay, 418 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: this guy's a big time player. Listen. You could see 419 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: it from Justin Herbert in that opening performance against the Chiefs. Now, 420 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: I know the Chiefs were not ready. Herbert was the 421 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: spot starter. Joe Burrow came out and basically every game 422 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: this season he's been awesome. He looks confident, he's big, 423 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: he can take hits. And again, I'm not bashing a 424 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: small quarterback. Um, but I'm telling you they had a 425 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: hundred forty five yards of offense. I think I saw 426 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: the stat that was the third fewest yards of any 427 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: team this season, and they were able to win the game. Um, 428 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I I obviously listen, I'm not making 429 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: a sweeping generalization. And now to it gets a little lucky, folks. 430 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: So they go to Arizona, and I had circled the 431 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: spot for Arizona as soon as I watched Miami just 432 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: totally vomit all over themselves offensive and they could do nothing. 433 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: And then Monday it comes out that two starters on 434 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: the Arizona defense, Byron Murphy their great slot corner and yeah, 435 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: he's really good. He was awesome at Washington and Uh 436 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: Kennard their linebackers, slash edge rusher. Both of them are 437 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: on the COVID list, so they're out. So now to 438 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: have faces a team, and it's pretty clear what the 439 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: offense is gonna be for ta quick short passes. Now, 440 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson is very good, They're gonna miss Byron Murphy. 441 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: We know Buddha Baker is good. But all of a sudden, 442 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: now I don't think I can bet Arizona for sure 443 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: here with those two defensive starters down. But I'm just 444 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: telling I don't know, Rob, did you get to watch 445 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: any of TWA. I know you're a Raiders guy, so 446 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: you're not as dialed into a RAMS game, but any 447 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: first impressions on tour, Yeah, I got. I got to 448 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 1: watch good chunks of the game. And and you know, 449 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: everybody in my family outside of you know, me and 450 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: my brothers are are Rams fans, So you know, I'm 451 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: used to watching a lot of Rams game here in 452 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Um, I didn't really see anything that made 453 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: me not think he's going to be a good quarterback. 454 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that he is small, but he's 455 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: always been small. You know. Is if people are going 456 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: to compare him to Joe Burrow, who was the number 457 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: one pick in the draft and everybody expecting me number 458 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: one pick, that's not a fair comparison. Um. The Justin Herbert, 459 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: I don't personally like that comparison either, only because this 460 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert that we're seeing the NFL is nowhere near 461 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: what we saw him in Oregon. He was not this 462 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: good at a Again. Now we live on the West Coast. 463 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of Oregon Ducks games. He was 464 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: the epitome of a he looks the part, but he 465 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: looks like he should be really good. But you know 466 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: he he his accuracy was never that great. He never 467 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: he never gave you the feeling that you know, this 468 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: guy is definitely a franchise quarterback. You know, we're like, yeah, 469 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 1: he has some tools like a Josh Allen, where if 470 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: we kind of work with him molding, he could become something. 471 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: Nobody saw this coming at all, And if they tell 472 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: you they did their lying. Um, to a he was 473 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: always gonna be reliant on the system that he went 474 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: to because he doesn't have the measurables that everybody else has. 475 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't have the cannon arm. He doesn't. He's not tall, 476 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: he's not super athletic, you know, like um I would 477 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: have compared like how Baker Mayfield in Oklahoma. Yeah, he 478 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: looks super athletically, giving the NFL is not really the same. 479 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: He kind of profiles the same way. And for two 480 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: of to be successful, he's gonna need to get with 481 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: an offensive mind like how Drew Brees ended up getting 482 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: with Sean Payton. That's going to design an offense that 483 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: fits what he does well. And what he does well is, 484 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: like you said, get the ball of his hands really quickly, 485 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: and he in college at least was a very accurate 486 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: thrower of the football. He once he get the ball 487 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: to his guys in space and let them do what 488 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: they do. I think that's what he has to be 489 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: built around. And and even though Miami's winning this season 490 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: and they're better than I thought they were, they don't 491 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: have those kind of guys on their team, you know. 492 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: I I I think Davante Parker is more of a 493 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: big possession guy. I never looked him as more of 494 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: a precision route runner. Um, They're running backs are nothing 495 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: to write home about. You know, their offensive line is okay, 496 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: so they need to get the right guys around him 497 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: before you can really see what he's capable. Well, it's 498 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: interesting that you mentioned they need a young coach. So curiously, 499 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: the Dolphins went out and hired chan Gaily as their 500 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Now, he had had a good relationship with 501 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick and Buffalo, so they bring him in and 502 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: I just looked u up. Chan Gaily was out of 503 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: football since when he was the offensive coordinator with the 504 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: Jets and Ryan Fitzpatrick. I am fairly certain. Um, and 505 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: he's sixty eight years old. I don't understand that pairing. 506 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: So now you have tour with that guy. Obviously he's 507 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: not gonna be long for I mean, you're not keeping 508 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: this guy, I don't think, Um, and then you're gonna 509 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: probably bring in some new offensive coordinator. But it's just 510 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a struggle for too. But I want 511 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 1: to go back to something you said, because it's like, 512 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: it's tough to compare him to Burrow or Herbert. But 513 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: remember last year before the college football season, the narrative 514 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: was its tank for two a time, right, that's what 515 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: everybody was gonna do. You're gonna tank for two because 516 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: he's so awesome, uh incredible quarterback, and Trevor Lawrence couldn't 517 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: come out yet, so everybody's gonna tank for t A 518 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: like Burrow wasn't even really on the radar. I think 519 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: we when we talked to Bruce Feldman, was it last week? 520 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: You know, it was like Burrow kind of came out 521 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: of nowhere. Herbert was good, but as you said, like 522 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: at Oregon, he wasn't this good because he was kind 523 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: of restrained a let's not let have him make mistakes. 524 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: So I guess my issue with two is the hype 525 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: machine started and I view him back as like, oh, 526 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: this is that dominant guy from Alabama? Where is that? 527 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: And I gotta mentally get away from that first impression 528 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: because my first impression Sunday was not a favorable one 529 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: of two and not negative, just not like, oh, here 530 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: we go, you know, here's the guy who's gonna be 531 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: the number one pick and uh yeah, anyways, um well, 532 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: were it not for his hip coming off of its 533 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: bone and the series of ankle injuries. I know that 534 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: we say that he's athletic or not that if he 535 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: was fully healthy, he's a much better athlete than what 536 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: we've seen, you know, even the second part of last 537 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: season in Alabama, because he was doing a lot of 538 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: ankle injuries before they had injury. That's tough run for two. 539 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: All right, Well that wraps up Tuesday's podcast. Obviously, guys 540 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: got to endorse um the idea to vote. You should 541 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: definitely go out and vote undenied. I'm like, you need 542 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: to do that. It's important that you're right as an American. 543 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: And everybody try to stay safe tonight and don't get 544 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: too down in the dumps regardless of the result. The 545 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: sun will rise on Wednesday. Okay, everything's gonna be fine. 546 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: There will be a podcast on Wednesday. I think we're 547 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: gonna We've got some ideas on what the podcast will 548 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: be on Wednesday, and we'll have sports for you, that's 549 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: for sure. So everybody enjoy the night and we'll talk 550 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: to you tomorrow.