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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Between the Horns. It is episode

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Speaker 1: one hundred, one hundred, me too, zero Miles Simmons, DeMarco

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Speaker 1: far And for episode one hundred we have producer Matt

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Speaker 1: back in the saddle. He found us again. He did

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Speaker 1: find shook him and here he is. Wow, he's like

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Speaker 1: Michael Myers. We cannot see exactly. So it is Saturday,

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Speaker 1: August third. Here as we are at UC Irvine. The

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Speaker 1: Rams and Chargers are getting ready for their second joint

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Speaker 1: practice of the week. So if that's what you heard

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Speaker 1: in the background there some charges fans were screaming we

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Speaker 1: may go, Yeah, we may go, Willie, Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: not your house. No, yeah, this is not your house.

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Speaker 1: Charger fans. Yeah, absolutely, your guests here, we may go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: keep shouting, yeah, you keep shouting. Keep and we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens. But I think this is pretty exciting, just

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Speaker 1: as a day in general. A lot of fans are

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Speaker 1: supposed to be here. So yeah, we will see the

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Speaker 1: energy I'm sure will be up. It was great to see.

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Speaker 1: I thought these two teams kind of go at it

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Speaker 1: on Thursday in that joint practice too. Good stuff, good work,

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Speaker 1: good teams. I mean, how lucky are you Southern California

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Speaker 1: football fans, LA football fans that you have Sean McVay

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Speaker 1: and Anthony Lynn both coaching at the same time and

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Speaker 1: both teams are really really good. I just said to

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Speaker 1: one of the Charger guys that were that's setting up

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Speaker 1: the field. May we meet in the Super Bowl? Wouldn't

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Speaker 1: that be awesome? It would be That would be really cool.

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Speaker 1: And there's a possibility, who knows, if the Rams get

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Speaker 1: back or continue doing what they've been doing and the

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Speaker 1: Chargers can get over the Chiefs and the Patriot hump

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Speaker 1: and who knows, that would be awesome. Yeah, it would

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Speaker 1: be an awesome thing for for LA and just football

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Speaker 1: fans in general. Honestly, I think it might be more

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Speaker 1: of the Patriots than the Chiefs. I mean just just

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Speaker 1: from the standpoint of look is with yeah, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: Like you have to be able to beat the Patriots

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Speaker 1: in order to even earn the right to play in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, right, And wouldn't the Patriots get to January.

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Speaker 1: They're that good, no doubt. So yeah, that's that's always

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Speaker 1: going to be, you know, an element for any team

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Speaker 1: in the AFC as long as Belichick and Brady are

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Speaker 1: still there. Funny first bone to pick at in episode

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Speaker 1: one hundred of BT Aaron Donald aside for one second,

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Speaker 1: and he is the greatest player, the best player on

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Speaker 1: the planet, No dispute here, right, Yes, remember one in

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Speaker 1: the Okay, so somewhere around one, two or three needs

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Speaker 1: to be Tom Brady. I'm just saying, Yeah, the guy

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Speaker 1: just won the Super Bowl again, and he's won six,

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Speaker 1: so how can he be anywhere outside of the top

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Speaker 1: two best players in the National Football League. I'll tell you,

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Speaker 1: I was actually pretty surprised that Drew Brees was number two. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's great, great in his own right. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I can't take anything away from him. Comparing the two.

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Speaker 1: Who would I rather have at quarterback? Wow, that's tough. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, who's your offensive coordinator? Right? I mean I

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Speaker 1: think that. Yeah, But but I can't take away when

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Speaker 1: I go to Tom Brady's house and look at his

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Speaker 1: trophy case, there's six Lombardies there. Yeah. Yeah, So regardless

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Speaker 1: of who's better, you have to say Brady is better

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Speaker 1: because he's won more. Okay, I'm just saying it's a

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Speaker 1: very simplistic argument to just go with the rings. But

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Speaker 1: like all right, I hear you. Well, if you can't

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Speaker 1: compare the two, right, if they're both great, and if

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Speaker 1: you don't mind picking second, if you had a choice

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Speaker 1: between Brady and Breeze, and it doesn't matter who picks first,

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Speaker 1: you still get a great quarterback. Yes, there's no way

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Speaker 1: to separate them in their ability. So the only thing

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Speaker 1: you have to go with is how many championships have

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Speaker 1: you won? Okay? Fair? I mean I think that anybody,

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Speaker 1: most people would probably still choose Brady, probably, like I mean,

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Speaker 1: from many many different standpoints. But it's gonna be interesting,

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Speaker 1: I guess, to see what these quarterbacks look like out

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Speaker 1: here today, right, I mean you're talking about guys with

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Speaker 1: the Breeze and Brady category. I think you would say

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is at least almost to that tier. And

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Speaker 1: same thing with Philip Rivers. Your secondary better bring it

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Speaker 1: good work for anyone blocking Aaron Donald. It's good work

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Speaker 1: for anyone trying to defend Philip Rivers when you can't

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Speaker 1: he only needs three, but out here he's got, you know,

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Speaker 1: a few extra beats to beat you. Yeah. And that's

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Speaker 1: that's one of the differences between when you have joint

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Speaker 1: really controlling the environment of what can happen, what's not

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Speaker 1: the Chargers coaches, defensive coaches, like, Hey, I'm going to eleven.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing this because this is practice. It's a controlled situation.

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Speaker 1: You want everybody to be on the same page so

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Speaker 1: makes his offense better. My first thought was, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: the only game where you're guaranteed not to lose, right,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It doesn't go yet whatever happens,

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Speaker 1: you you can win that game. Same thing out here

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Speaker 1: when you're above board. No one's trying to win out here.

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Speaker 1: You're just trying to get better. So hey, look, this

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Speaker 1: is what we're doing. This is what we're gonna try

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Speaker 1: don't care what your plan is. But you know, when

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yes, and that's why. But

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Speaker 1: you're maybe thudding a little bit. Oh, you're maybe getting

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Speaker 1: the pop. Yeah, you're going ahead, and you're not doing

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Speaker 1: So I'll explain this. I was basically, I wasn't Basically

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Speaker 1: if there's two of them, you're gonna miss something no

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Speaker 1: Godd Why are you saying that I'm serious. I had

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff the end and the Chargers defense coming this way.

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Speaker 1: I had Philip Rivers and their offense going against the

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You're gonna miss something every now

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Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, set that bar high, Miles. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: he was in Green Band. I think we said that

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Speaker 1: rushing situations. So it's all broken apart, but if you

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Speaker 1: it out. But he was just that smart. So you know,

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00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 1: guys like that that are on another level, like Wettal,

424
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 1: like Rivers, they can only help out the other mere

425
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 1: mortals on the field. Sure, yeah, Well it's funny you

426
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 1: bring up Orlando Pace because I do want to talk

427
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,919
Speaker 1: about the Rams current left tackle and Andrew Whitworth, because

428
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 1: that's somebody. I mean, he's thirty seven, he'll be thirty

429
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,400
Speaker 1: eight oble even December. Yeah, and he is still going

430
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 1: out there in stonewalling guys as if he is one

431
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,679
Speaker 1: of these young spring chickens in the league. You know,

432
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I put him in and this we might

433
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 1: fight on this because you are a Cleveland guy. Okay,

434
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 1: but I put him in the same category as Joe Thomas.

435
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 1: Oh why would we fight on that. I think you're right.

436
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,400
Speaker 1: I just you never know. I mean people are Joe

437
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 1: Thomas isn't saying he's the greatest thing ever, never gave

438
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,200
Speaker 1: up a sack or pressure. Well, I don't know, yeah,

439
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 1: but no, I think that it's very fair to put

440
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 1: those two guys in the same sort of category. Yeah.

441
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,919
Speaker 1: I mean they really came up at the same time

442
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,880
Speaker 1: in that AFC North Division, and it was a position

443
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 1: when you had both of those guys there, you didn't

444
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 1: worry about it, you know, despite the quarterback troubles that

445
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 1: both teams went to until I mean Cincinnati with Andy

446
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 1: Dalton and then now Baker Mayfield in Cleveland. And unfortunately

447
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas isn't there to see it. But I think

448
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 1: those two guys are probably two of the best left

449
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 1: tackles of their era right now. I mean those two.

450
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 1: Joe Staley would be another one category. Yeah, yeah. I

451
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 1: used to love watching Quinn and Staley go at it.

452
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, twice a year. That was always fun football.

453
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna miss Frank Clark for that very same

454
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: reason watching him take on you know, Andrew Whitworth twice

455
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: a year, that was always fun. But you know, yeah,

456
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: you are the premier left tackle, one of the premier

457
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 1: left tackles in the game, right, that's how people see

458
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 1: you still at age thirty seven. So at the end,

459
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 1: when we get to December, January, going into February, I

460
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: want people to say the same thing about you, you you

461
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yes, yeah, so, and he's done

462
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: nothing but been that guy in practice so far. Like

463
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: you said, he's he's right back up to speed already. Yeah, yeah,

464
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 1: there's no letdown in him. Yeah, And that's you could

465
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: see it really And I think they were in a

466
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: red zone play and Goff drops back, he's looking for

467
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 1: Gerald Everett and he has time to get the ball

468
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: there because you have Andrew Whitworth just absolutely washing Joey

469
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: Bosa out of the play. And Joey Bosa is one

470
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 1: of the premier pass rushers in the league. Yeah, he's great,

471
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: and apparently his brother in San Francisco is supposed to

472
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 1: be better. So that's gonna be interesting to see. But

473
00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 1: at the same whoa, what the heck was that? That

474
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: was me? Chiming in. We have new features over here.

475
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: And again what I like that? That sound effects? I

476
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: thought that was real. Somebody got smacked off to my

477
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: right side. That's cool, ye I told you you? Yeah, yeah,

478
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: brought it out for training. Care I know, Well, do

479
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: we have more sound effects? Uh? No, I just wanted

480
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,239
Speaker 1: that one for I got a special surprise for you

481
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Speaker 1: at the end. Wow. Oh interest, that's about it. Okay,

482
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 1: well we'll go with the special What that was? I

483
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: know I was a little confused too. I was like,

484
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: we can go. I think we got a trap porn

485
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: in here? Yeah? Nice? Nice, nice? Nice. That just makes

486
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: me want to run. Yeah, all right, next Jo, but

487
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: if you if you think about um, gosh, I kind

488
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: of lost my train at thought. Now, Matt, Joey Bosa

489
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: is better, thank you. Nick Bosa is probably better than

490
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa. We'll see, well he slotted to be better.

491
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: We'll see one of the funny things. And I owe

492
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: him an apology. I thought Richard Williams was crazy when

493
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 1: Venus Williams ruled tennis and he said, watch if you

494
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: think she's good, wait for the sister. Yeah, nobody's better

495
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: than Venus. Well you're right, Yeah, twenty some grand slams later. Right, Okay, yeah, exactly.

496
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: But regardless, I think when you have Andrew Whitworth and

497
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: he can still anchor the offensive line as he is, Yeah,

498
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: and you know it's not it's not nothing. Right. You

499
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: have Jared Goff upright for as much as he has

500
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: been because of guys like Andrew Whitworth, and Goff does

501
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: not have to worry about what's coming from that side

502
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: of him, right, because Whitworth is still so good and

503
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: so that that just makes the offense go no doubt

504
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: in a in a way, I kind of equate him

505
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: to Kareem in his later years, right, I mean yeah,

506
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean he's a problem for any other center. I

507
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: can care your age or experience level. You know that

508
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: sky hook is damn near unblockable and you know what's coming, right,

509
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: So what's the same thing. I mean, everyone else outside

510
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: of Aaron Donald, anybody on defense, but on offense, definitely,

511
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: on every single snap, Andrew Whitworth is under attack. Yeah,

512
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, either their best guy or

513
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: their second best guy is over him for sixteen straight weeks,

514
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So that that's his job.

515
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: He accepts that role, and he's really good at it.

516
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: Like you said, man, if you run yourself out of

517
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: the play, he ain't gonna fight. You have to wheel

518
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 1: you away, you know what I mean. Like at a

519
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: certain point, it's like, thank you very much, come inside,

520
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 1: you flatten yourself out, He'll just thank you very much. Absolutely.

521
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: But if you find a guy that actually has some

522
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: skill that's gonna give him a fight, well, look, man, um,

523
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: you can do a lot worse, you know what I mean.

524
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: Face and Andrew Worth. Yea, yeah, yeah, no doubt about it.

525
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: What do you think that note Boom and Alan have

526
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: to do at left guard and center to really just

527
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: be prepared for what's coming in the regular season, you know.

528
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: I wish you can simulate it and maybe when you

529
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: get to Oakland because it might not happen here because

530
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: of what we were talking about with their head coaches. Yeah,

531
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: but for me, they got to get in. They gotta

532
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: and there's no way to say it. I wish I

533
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: could curse because there's only one word. Well, you can't

534
00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: do that. They need to get into the rough, the rough.

535
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: They need to get into trouble. They need to get

536
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: into some stuff. Yeah, I mean, they need to really

537
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: get into the pooh. I think, I think, yes, thank

538
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: you the other world, I know, I know what you're

539
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: trying to say. There's movies made like you know, or

540
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: I think it's like a Van dam movie where he's

541
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: been training in the woods and he thinks he's ready

542
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: and then his master takes him into a bar with

543
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: a bunch of drunk guys and says, you know, have

544
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: at it to test yourself. But I mean, seriously, when

545
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: you get into the regular what I'm saying is when

546
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: you get into the regular season, right, yeah, I mean

547
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: it's for keeps and those guys that you're blocking, like

548
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth, are either well paid or looking to get

549
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: well paid, and they're looking for turnstiles, you know, So

550
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: you got to really get into it to get yourself

551
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: ready for the regular season. So I would like to

552
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: see them get into a dust up, not a fight,

553
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: but just a mess. Yeah yeah, with two a nose

554
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: tackle and a three technique or whoever on the d

555
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: line that just doesn't take any guff. He's not their friend. Okay,

556
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: do you think they need to play in the preseason,

557
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: like are they going to be able? Are they going

558
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: to be able? To get enough in these practices like

559
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: the ones we're gonna have to day with the Chargers, right,

560
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: and then next week in NAPA. Is that going to

561
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: be enough for them? Or do they need preseason? They'll

562
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: They'll be fine with the way they're practicing, don't get

563
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: me wrong, but just too accelerated. I would say this,

564
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: if you really want to get some good work, and

565
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: you're getting good work against Aaron Donald, right, no doubt,

566
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: walk up and slap him in the face. I mean, really,

567
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: I think that that I would not do that. Make

568
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: him mad, show, make him show you what game speed

569
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: looks like for you, may make him want to wreck

570
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: your days practice. Yeah, I said this about Pouncy the

571
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: Chargers center. Yeah, you should beg him to go full

572
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: speed so you can get a full speed look. Because

573
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: if you can beat him or hang with his full speed,

574
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: you can hang with ninety percent of the league. You

575
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: really know, you can hang with anybody. I'm just I'm

576
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: with all due respect, Yeah, I feel you, but you

577
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: can hang with Anybody's what I'm saying with him. So,

578
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean you should want for those two guys, I

579
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: want to see them get into it. We're you can't

580
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: have help. McVay is not going to help you. Whitworth

581
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: isn't gonna help you. It's I got a man up

582
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: and block this guy. Where I got a man up

583
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: and block this guy's trash, talk out and keep my head,

584
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, Yes, And that's not going to happen when

585
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: everybody's being nice to each other. No, it won't. So

586
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: I think you just want to see the intensity level

587
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: ratcheted up a little bit. Things that kind of it. Yeah,

588
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's weird. I mean, some guys, uh,

589
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: they wait to get punched in the mouth to respond, right,

590
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: And sometimes that's the wrong attitude because if you're waking up,

591
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: you know, Jared Goff could be just waking up right,

592
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, before you wake up. So that's the only thing.

593
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they haven't been out there when it's real,

594
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: you know. So that's that's the only thing I wish

595
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: I can simulate for those guys. Well, I just I

596
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: don't know that you can. It's hard because somebody asked

597
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: this for mail backs, right, yeah, well but even then,

598
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: because I don't, I think that it's going to be

599
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: a pretty big trend where most players are not going

600
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: to play in preseason. If they do, they're not gonna

601
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: pay very much. Well, just remember starts Sean McVay knows,

602
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: and I mean the entire offense, or this series could

603
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: be just about those two guys. So I don't care

604
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: if it's third and seventeen. We're running a die between

605
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: both of your shoulders. Yes, yeah, let's see what you do.

606
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: I want to see if you can handle it. We're

607
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: going tempo, We're gonna change the snap count on you.

608
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: I want to make sure you can think. Brian Allen,

609
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: and I'm not giving you help. Nope, Boom for sixteen plays,

610
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: let me see how you handle it, right, Yeah, exactly.

611
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: And that's but that I think might be what you

612
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: see from them. It was interesting hearing from Sean McVay

613
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: the other day said that they're going to evaluate whether

614
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: or not they want to play note Boom and Allen

615
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: in the preseason basically because they don't have the reps.

616
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: Right if you're talking about Austin blythe Rob Havenstein and

617
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: obviously Andrew Whitworth, those guys have all been in the

618
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: league and they've played a bunch of snaps, so they

619
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: don't need to necessarily play like you would need your

620
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: young guys to make sure that they're ready. I think

621
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: in an ideal world, though, you probably don't play those

622
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: guys in the play. Look, man, I mean I want

623
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: to test those tires before I get out on the road.

624
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: Sure they do. But the guys that have some wear

625
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: and tear a lot of tread on the tire. You

626
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: don't have to maybe blythe plays a little a little bit,

627
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: maybe a series just to get everybody lined up right.

628
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: So like for for him, it just to pass a pass, protection,

629
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: a screen in a draw, get out, okay, yeah, nothing

630
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: that puts you in harm's way. You know what I'm saying.

631
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: I just did you relay? What is it necessary? It

632
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: might be necessary just for communication. I mean, look, it's okay, okay,

633
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: communication you mean communication from him to no Boom and Allen. Right,

634
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, and I want him to call

635
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: I want the rook to call it right, Okay. So

636
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna run three plays that you know, don't really

637
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: feature you as a guard. Sure you know what I'm saying,

638
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: But just for communications sake, chemistry sake, I need you

639
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: to take these, Rook and that's and then Roland Dendy

640
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: Roland Evans everybody else out. But yeah, look, if you

641
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: haven't made start number one and you're moving into year two,

642
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: that's very young. You can play preseason Okay, yeah, no,

643
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: it's it's I don't know. I think you don't want

644
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: to see them get but you do want to see

645
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: them get prepared, because when you're going from two guys

646
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: in Roger Saffold and John Sullivan who played the left

647
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: guard in center position, and they had as much experience

648
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: as they did going to this, they're gonna be some

649
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: growing pains. I think that it's fair to expect that, right,

650
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: and it's not going to be their fault, but they

651
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: just don't have that experience yet, right right am I

652
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: am I crazier? No? No, no, no, absolutely not. But

653
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: I mean guys that I mean, people have been here before.

654
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 1: This is not unheard of going into your second year

655
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: and becoming the starter. Some guys, you know, take to

656
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: it like ducks to water, and they don't have that

657
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: growing pains and they don't make a ton of mistakes.

658
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: Right They're on their way to being a pro bowler

659
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: possibly beyond, so that's also a possibility. But sure, I mean,

660
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to put the same fence around a

661
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: second year non starter or a new starter, as I

662
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: would Andrew Whitworth or Todd Gurley or anyone else that's

663
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: actually produced at a high level, right, Yeah, you have

664
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: to earn being out of preseason. Yes, yeah, not just

665
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: because you're penciled in as the starter, right right, No,

666
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: you do, and so we will continue to monitor that.

667
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: I think this particular practice and then obviously the couple

668
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: of practices in NAPA next week with the Raiders, they're

669
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: probably going to say a lot about where those two

670
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: guys are, no doubt, absolutely, I mean same thing. I

671
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: mean watching the offense and I just remember the Rams

672
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: d line taking on the Raiders offensive line early. Was

673
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: it a couple of season ago or last season? It

674
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: starts to the Raiders, Yeah that was last year. Was

675
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: last year and just jumping in with both feet against

676
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good and physical offensive line that helped you

677
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. Yes, So I hope

678
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: the same thing happens with the Raiders defensive line the

679
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: Chargers defensive line. That it's it's tough early you can

680
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: get you know, pretty good reads and looks and understanding

681
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: about who you have and what you need to do

682
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: to get better. Sure, yeah, no doubt about it. Two

683
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: players that I thought stood out in a really good

684
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: way for the Rams offense against the Chargers defense the

685
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: other day, where Tyler Higbee and Jerald Everett. You know,

686
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: I think these tight ends, and we've talked about this

687
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: a lot. I think over the course of the offseason

688
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: and now into training camp, the tight end position is

689
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: one where the Rams can gain the most on offense.

690
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: Right and again, you're talking about a team that finished

691
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: number one in scoring in seventeen, number two in scoring

692
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, so there's only so much room for improvement. However,

693
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: you have not gotten very much out of that tight

694
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: end position. And so if you can, and if Tyler

695
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: Higbee and Jerald Everett both take steps forward, then where

696
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: does that put your offense? Man, You're in great show, dude.

697
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: It balances the whole thing out. If you've got Cup

698
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: on one side, slot receiver and a tight end that's

699
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: just as dangerous on the other side of the formation.

700
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean, think of yourself defensively. You are spread out

701
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: all over hell trying to cover everyone right, and the

702
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: left tackle, like we said, is solid, so you can't

703
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: get pressure there. It's just wow. That just makes everything

704
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: tougher to defend. And way back Kellen Winslow Senior, Yeah, yeah,

705
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: told me Chargers great. He always thought the tight end

706
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: is always open, and I agree with him. You know

707
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: what I mean, The tight end is almost open in

708
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: every single you know, offense versus every single defense. That's

709
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: your matchup problems. And I'll say this, I'll say this man,

710
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: just like outside linebacker or let's say Sue and Clay

711
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: Matthews and we were coming over. At some point, there's

712
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: going to be those athletic tight ends that come knocking

713
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: on the door for a chance to play in LA. Okay,

714
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean in this offense. Actually, yeah,

715
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: so you better start making some day out here, bro. Yeah.

716
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see whether or not, you know,

717
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: the Rams extend Tyler Higby at some point, because he

718
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: is one of those guys who would be coming up

719
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, right and this same

720
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: situation that Rob Havenstein was in last year. So where

721
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: whether or not the Rams will do that, we'll see.

722
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: But I think Tyler Higby has shown that he has

723
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: some receiving ability. Now was he drafted in the second

724
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: round to really be that kind of George and read

725
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: element whatever you want to say. As Gerald Everett was

726
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: the first pick of the Sean McVeigh era, that's not

727
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: necessarily the case. But I think Tyler Higby still can

728
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: has shown he can block really well. He's great as

729
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: an inline blocker, and that is very important when you've

730
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: got somebody like Todd Gurley. And he looks significantly stronger

731
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: than he did last year for some reason. I don't

732
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: know what it is. If he's just it's I think

733
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: it's his arms, man. It may be the black hair.

734
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: Maybe it may be the hair co Fair Yeah, yeah, yeah,

735
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: when he had the blonde, Yes, yeah, the guy Fieri.

736
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: I think I might try that guy with the black

737
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: hair Higby, you know, yeah, yeah, I mean just dark

738
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: o natural. I may just pick up the brick. I

739
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: see where you're going. He looks tougher. I'm with you, yeah,

740
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: just you've been around. So question, let's go back to

741
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: Lance Kendrick era. Oh boy, okay, are you better or worse?

742
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: Better by how much? I would say by a significant margin.

743
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: But you also have a better offensive system, right, That's

744
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So okay, let's go back even further

745
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: than Jared cook Better who you know. I did. I

746
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: text this to you, tweet this to you. I said,

747
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna like eat their words

748
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: on him. You texted that to me, Oh I did. Okay,

749
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: when he's in New Orleans, you're gonna see what he's

750
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: all about. With a quarterback that can actually get the

751
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: football with a competent offense. We'll hold on. Now, you

752
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: saw that in Green Bay, did you not? Something's going

753
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: on in Green Bay? Okay, But I'm saying, like, when

754
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: he was in Green Bay, you saw that. But I mean,

755
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: I think this is he'll be able to reach his

756
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: potential like in New Orleans. Yeah, I think he's going

757
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: to be a problem for a lot of people. So yeah,

758
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: but what I'm saying is, I mean, I agree with you.

759
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: It's a long way of saying the tight ends they

760
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: have a wonderful opportunity in this offense. Yeah, this is

761
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: the last part of this offense that hasn't really taken

762
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: off or had had a game that just you know,

763
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: set everybody looking at them. I still think those two

764
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: games or those games are out there for those two

765
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: guys for sure. And if you look at what it

766
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: is that the Rams are utilizing them for I think

767
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: if you see Gerald Everett in the red zone, that

768
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: is ideally where you want him, right, yeah, because he

769
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: can be the matchup nightmare of the matchup problem from

770
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: that spot because like you, you like you line a

771
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: smaller safety up on him. And they did this once

772
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: if you remember this is seventeen when the Rams were

773
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: at Arizona. Right, it was fourth down and I believe

774
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: the Rams ran a slant to Gerald Everett. It caught

775
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: it in the end zone for a touchdown, and that

776
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: was because Tyrren Matthew was lined up on him. That's

777
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: a matchup problem, yes, right, there's no way that that

778
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: guy should be able to cover you in that small

779
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: space and he couldn't. That's got to be consistent. Like

780
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, there are certain people where you can watch

781
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey depending on who's over top of him, you know,

782
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: it's complete, yes, you know, you know you miss you Ertz.

783
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: I guess was kind of the same way depending on

784
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: who walked out with him when he detached. Okay, that's

785
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: that's a completion for whatever quarterbacks thrown at him. So,

786
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: Gerald Everett, Higbee, either one of those guys turns out

787
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: to be that guy. For for Jared Goff, your offense

788
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: never leaves the field, right, And that's the thing, man,

789
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: if that it's so interesting because you have guys like Woods,

790
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: like Cooks, like cup and we know what they're capable

791
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: of and what you have to do to stop them. Right. Yeah,

792
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: So then like if you get that tight end and

793
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: he's a really great receiver too, then all that does

794
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: is open up opportunities for your running backs. Right. And

795
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, as we know, has not seen very many

796
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: stacked boxes in the last couple of years because the

797
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: Rams just utilize eleven personnel and basically nothing else. I

798
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: think that'll be a little bit different this year, and

799
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: I know you do too well. You know when Torry

800
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: Holt was with us and he was talking about when

801
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: Isaac Bruce and they were both on the same team

802
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: and how much they would force cover two because they

803
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: would have to they would have to keep two safeties

804
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: on the roof because one of these guys is going

805
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: to run by our corner. Right, So there goes Marshall

806
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: versus a seven man box. He even mentioned that with

807
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: Stephen Jackson, you know, yes, when Steven Jackson got the

808
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: the when there was a rare occasion when the box

809
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: wasn't stacked for him, he made them pay immediately. So,

810
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: but that was dependent on the the offense worked and

811
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: the receivers and tight ends threatening the defense to cover

812
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: in a certain way. But that's the kind of thing

813
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: now that you're really going to be able to see that,

814
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: not that we haven't already, but I I just wonder

815
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: what the new element of the offense is going to

816
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: be this year. It's going to be it has to

817
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: be personnel groups and at some point you'll see, you know,

818
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: like you said, Henderson and Gurley on the field at

819
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: the same time. You think so, yeah, of course, I mean,

820
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: and I keep going back to Tavon Austin way back

821
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: when it was basically the same deal. So sort of

822
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: end around jet sweep guy that pulls the backside defensive

823
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: end off of pursuit. So there's a cutback lane for

824
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. Yeah, it's the same sort of but I

825
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: think this will be a little more explosive and a

826
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: little he's a little thicker than Tavon and that's being nice,

827
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: that's nice, look, but the same sort of you know, hell,

828
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: hell if you damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Yes,

829
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: if you don't, if your defensive end steps down to stop,

830
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: you know, the cutback from Todd, the end around's gone. Yes,

831
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If you play the end

832
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: a round, Todd girl is going to cut back for you.

833
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: You know. I always go back to that game that

834
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: the Rams played in Cincinnati and they brought out the Wildcat,

835
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: right I remember we're seeing Yeah, I remember seeing that

836
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: in practice and like people being like, oh, you can't

837
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: report he came from. I'm like, I know, I know,

838
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: it's fine, but like it works for that one play

839
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: in Tavan with sixty yards down the field, and then

840
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: they tried to do it more and it didn't work out.

841
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: Oh that's you know. Wildcat is like the fumble of Rooski.

842
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: You know, you'll you can only use it once. That's

843
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: all one snap and then that's that's it. I'm pretty

844
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: sure Todd Gurley has two passing touchdowns from his time

845
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: in Georgia from the Wildcat. Really he does. I'm pretty

846
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: sure I know he has one. Was it that ugly

847
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: jump shot put? No, it was a it was like

848
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: a really five thirty yard pass. Okay, all right. Interesting.

849
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: So I hate when like running backs do that and

850
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: they get like the shot the shot put pass team right,

851
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: and and they score with it. They call it like

852
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass. No, that was a that's basically a

853
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: forward pitch, you know, old like the put the touch Yeah.

854
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that we will ever

855
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: see Todd Gurley really throw a pass. I think Cooper

856
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: Cup is more likely. If anybody is ready or could

857
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: get any defense to bite on a half back pass,

858
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: it would be him. Okay, fair, as soon as thirty

859
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: touches the football, you're gonna get all eleven coming at him.

860
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: Got him at Okay, I was wrong. One attempt, one completion,

861
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: fifty yards. It wasn't a touchdown. Okay, Well he did

862
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: have a fifty I saw that. Probably a lot of

863
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: that was yards after catch, and I have to ask

864
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: Tod about that. Is Todd's birthday today, by the way,

865
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: Happy birthday, birthday, Todd Gurley, Happy birthday, Dante Fowler. Nice,

866
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Brady. He's gonna light it up, Dante Fowler.

867
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: I actually think so too. Yeah, he's gonna light it up.

868
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny. I saw the other day there

869
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: was a quote from Todd Gurley and he said that

870
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler is sometimes getting to the quarterback or getting

871
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: to the ball whatever as fast as Aaron Donald. And

872
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: I have seen a lot of people dispute that on Twitter,

873
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: and it is true. I saw it with my own eyes. Okay,

874
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: like when there was a play the other day, and

875
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: I think I put this in ten Observations, which you

876
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: can keep reading on the RAMS dot com. But yeah,

877
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: there is Yeah, you put play the Airborne for that one. Yeah,

878
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: there we go. Um anyway, but there was a play

879
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: and it was a RAMS one defense against the twos

880
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: on offense, and Fowler and Donald both came from the

881
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: left side of the defense right, but they got into

882
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: the backfield so fast that Blake Bortles basically couldn't even

883
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: hand the ball off to the running back. Wow. Okay,

884
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: And so when you see that, I'm telling you Dante

885
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: Fowler has got that kind of speed. He's got jets. Yes, yeah,

886
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: he's becoming more flexible. Remember what we called Quinn like

887
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: Gumby Gumby because the guy can bend and he would

888
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 1: slip and slide around corners. Not to that extent, but boy,

889
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: he gets real skinny at the point of attack. Yeah,

890
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: there's not a lot to hit the offensive tackles, So

891
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: he's coming off with speed and velocity and just sliding

892
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: by blockers. That is a good sign. That is the

893
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: mark of a pass rusher when you can go to

894
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: a signature move. Yes, and it still works time and

895
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: time again. So yeah, I think he is setting up

896
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: and gearing up for a hell of a run. He

897
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: knows that he's in a contract here, of course, you

898
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: can tell man. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's we used

899
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: to say this, the carrot in front of the donkey, right,

900
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: it's right there. Yes, you know, all you've got to

901
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: do is catch that dark thing. I think he can

902
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: do it, though, And if you have him, you have Donald,

903
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: you have Clay Matthews. Yeah, if you're an offense, that's

904
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: a problem, no doubt. I mean, look, at some point,

905
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: you know what, Donald, He's gonna see a lot of attention.

906
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: We know this, right, So there's your double. But those

907
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: two guys are gonna be singled up more often than

908
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: Nut Matthews and Foul Matthews and Foul, So you're gonna

909
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: get one on one with a lot of people. Yeah,

910
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: you just have to do something with it and make plays. Yeah,

911
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 1: you do. I think he can. I think the most

912
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: interesting thing about Fowler right now is he was a

913
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: number three overall pick, and I feel like people tend

914
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: to forget that just based on the way he kind

915
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: of got passed over in Jacksonville, right, I mean, there

916
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: are reasons for that. He had the acl that happened

917
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: at first day of rookie minicamp, which still to me

918
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: is just like one of the most horrible things that

919
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: you can think of, like for a player, like I

920
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: cannot imagine that. You go, you do everything that you do,

921
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 1: you finally get in to the NFL, and then boom,

922
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: like the bad things happen immediately. You know it happens. Then,

923
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have to work your way through it.

924
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: But I mean there are a lot of people that

925
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, they say he's on the bubble ubba bus. Yeah,

926
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: you know, you haven't seen enough. I mean, if you

927
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: look at his production chart, Okay, it's not there for

928
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: a number three in the draft right right, not yet,

929
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: not yet. This is the year for him, This is

930
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: the year where it should all come together. Right, You're

931
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: gonna be in one spot. You are starter. You're in

932
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: competition every single snap for your life, right, that's the

933
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: way it goes. Absolutely, But you were a frontline guy,

934
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna get every opportunity to do what you do best. Now,

935
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: let's see what type of player you really are. I

936
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: think seeing him against this Chargers offense and this Chargers

937
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: offensive line, it's going to be a good test for

938
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: what he can do against some of the league's top tackles.

939
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: This offensive line is good, you know, I mean thinking

940
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: about him, and you gotta go to when you play Arizona,

941
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,959
Speaker 1: You've got air Raid, then you've got Seattle to where

942
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: it's just straight up slam your head against the wall

943
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: a thousand times to make plays there. And then you've

944
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: got San Francisco, which is very very multiple. Right, So,

945
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: as a right defensive end or any sort of pass rusher,

946
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody else is going to be challenged

947
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: as much as him. Maybe not, Yeah, I mean that's

948
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: gonna be tough, know, and all three quarterbacks outside or yeah,

949
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: outside of Garoppolo, and even he can move, Kyler Murray

950
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: can move. Russell Wilson is almost impossible to bring down.

951
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: So if you can somehow find a way to get

952
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: double digit sacks in your division versus those guys, you've

953
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: done something well that. You know what, when you look

954
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: at the different quarterbacks in the division, I mean you

955
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: talk about Russell Wilson being almost impossible to bring down.

956
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray could do that too. Yeah, right, you know,

957
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: he's got fatigue, he's got speed like vic You saw it.

958
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: We were up there when the Rams just put it

959
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: on Seattle at forty two seven. That was a fun

960
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: day beating. Or was it the one here in LA

961
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: where Russell wills. No, it was up there. They should

962
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 1: have had like twelve sacks on him, and the only

963
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: reason they didn't was because of him. Yes, you know,

964
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: getting out of stuff. Yeah, and he's amazing. Yes, So

965
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: he can do those kinds of things. I think Kyler

966
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: Murray has that kind of ability. Yeah. Obviously we don't

967
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: know what kind of offense that the Cardinals gonna put

968
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, you know, I mean, I just mean

969
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: in the sense that you don't know what is surrounding

970
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: him yet you don't. Yeah, it's it's air Ray. Throw

971
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: the ball every down and let him run it and

972
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: then mix send David Johnson. You know what's coming yes, yeah,

973
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: all right. I think you just don't know exactly how

974
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna look. But then Garoppolo, man, you just don't

975
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get coming off that ACL injury. Now,

976
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: if he looks at anything like Cooper Cup, I bet

977
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: he's fine, probably, no doubt. I mean that offense is tough,

978
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: and they've got some good parts, you know what I mean. Yeah,

979
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: So you just think of what they did. They had success.

980
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: They just didn't win a lot of games, but they

981
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: had success off offensively, Yeah, they did. They kept losing people,

982
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: So remove said quarterback. Put in Garoppolo or any credible

983
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: good quarterback, and what would you get on game day?

984
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: That's a pretty tough out when you play Sam France, No,

985
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: no doubt. So preseason football, it's gonna start a week

986
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: from today for the Los Angeles Rams when they will

987
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: take on the Oakland Raiders there at the coliseum. I

988
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: don't know what coliseum it is now, but whatever their name,

989
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: the Oakland Alameda Coliseum. Yes, uh, it used to be

990
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: oh dot co. I think it's something different. But what

991
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: are you looking forward to seeing during those games? Create

992
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: any player in particular portals? Yeah? Yeah, if Goff isn't

993
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 1: gonna play, and he won't and he better not. Yeah. Yeah,

994
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: but let's uh, I guess the going sentiment is that

995
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: the Rams are upgraded at backup quarterback. Well, let's see that.

996
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: Let's make sure that there's out So that's the first

997
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: guy I'm looking too. Okay, you know, let me. I

998
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: want to see Mortals play. Well, I want to see

999
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: what he does in this offense, or at least half

1000
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: of it. Yes, yeah, you know, I think that the

1001
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: connection between him and Mike Thomas is going to be

1002
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: one that we're going to talk about a lot throughout

1003
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: the preseason. Yeah, it's it's so funny. And now they're

1004
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: the backup offense right when Bortles and Thomas are in there, Yes,

1005
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: the twos. But it's so modern day football. It's a

1006
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: quarterback feeding one guy. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1007
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: It's it's it's so modern day football. But yes, if

1008
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: you're black Bortles, and this is all due respect to

1009
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: anybody out there, why wouldn't you feed a guy that big? Right? Yeah,

1010
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: that can jump, that can run, you know what I mean?

1011
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: So his strong hands, there are a few catches that

1012
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: he made in that charger's practice on Thursday where it's like, Okay,

1013
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: Mike Thomas, I see you are going firm hands to

1014
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: the football is exactly what you want. Side of Reynolds.

1015
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: Just this is just for fun. This is way down

1016
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: the road. Well, actually it's week two when you play

1017
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: New Orleans, right, yeah, Okay the receivers you have cup

1018
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: Woods Cooks. Which one can simulate Mike Thomas for the defense? Oh,

1019
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Mike Thomas, Yes, which one can simulate him?

1020
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: Robert Woods maybe none? You need Mike Thomas, right, so

1021
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: you need Mike Thomas. You need Mike Thomas to simulate

1022
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas. I mean that's but that's just that's what

1023
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 1: I'm telling. It's like, it's so modern NFL with those

1024
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: two guys. That's what you're gonna see. And that's what's

1025
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: happening in New Orleans. Yes, that's why you pay that

1026
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: guy one hundred million bucks. You can dam it into

1027
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: him ninety times in a year. Yes, And so that's

1028
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: you see that connection I think between Blake Portals Mike Thomas.

1029
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: Then the other one is Jojo Natson. Yeah, both the

1030
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: girls guys. Yeah, both of those guys. I thought with

1031
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: Jojo Natson and Mike Thomas had really good days against

1032
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Todd Gurley even shouted them out in his

1033
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 1: press conference, saying that both those guys had a day.

1034
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: You know, Jojoe was close a lot last year, right,

1035
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: you mean to breaking one. Yeah, he was close a lot.

1036
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: I had some really good returns. Um you know, as

1037
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: a receiver in preseason, I thought he was pretty good. Yeah,

1038
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: you know once you got over how you know how

1039
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: he looked and how small he was he was. Yeah,

1040
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: the guy can make plays, you know, so I hope

1041
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: that continues. He made a diving catch the other day

1042
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: that I was pretty impressed by, like going towards the sideline,

1043
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: he had to run under it at Blake Bortle's pass.

1044
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: That was just kind of floating up and it was

1045
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: one of those sort of post corner routs, if you will.

1046
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: So he gets under it, makes the catch and then

1047
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: goes out of bounds. It was really impressive play. Did

1048
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: he go to the ground? Yeah? Did it make a sound?

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Speaker 1: I know, That's what I'm saying, right, like like a

1050
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Speaker 1: spider pan on cotton, You're right, or like a lands

1051
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: right you just wow? Did that even register? You know

1052
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: what I mean? Wow? That used to be my favorite saying.

1053
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: My offensive line coach. He's to say that when he

1054
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: thought that, you know when when we were having padded

1055
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: practices and he thought things were a little too soft,

1056
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: Like you guys aren't doing anything. It's like a spider

1057
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: pan on cotton. That's right. Yeah, man, Yeah, you so quiet,

1058
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: take carries and you know bow where people hit the deck.

1059
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean you hear it. The ground moves, right, okay, Carol,

1060
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: Carol King I feel the earth move under my feet, right,

1061
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's funny. Right. Everybody on the sideline, uh,

1062
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: the the the chain gang, the referees, anybody there when

1063
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: the play comes to him, right, everybody starts to back

1064
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: up fifteen yards. No one moves when Jojoe's running a year,

1065
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah, I think I can stand here and

1066
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: take that one. Yeah. Anybody on defense, you're you're particularly

1067
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing Kaiser, I'm still looking at the

1068
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: nose tackles Great gains Sebastian Joseph Davis. That's huge, And

1069
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: I think both of those guys will play in preseason,

1070
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: no doubt. Yeah, absolutely, Yes. The more you can get,

1071
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: the better. Yeah. Yeah, play every single snap, you know,

1072
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, for everything. Uh so Micah Kaiser, of course. Uh.

1073
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: You know a guy that keeps popping out, um is

1074
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: Taylor Rap Yeah, yeah, by where they use him, how

1075
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: they use him, and what he does. You know, he

1076
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: has a knack for always setting himself up for a

1077
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: high impact play, Yes, he does. Yeah, and those those

1078
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: guys I'm definitely looking forward to seeing. I think I

1079
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: want to see two guys that are coming back from injury,

1080
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: and that's Kevin Peterson at cornerback and Morgan Fox on

1081
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: the defensive line. I think both of those guys were

1082
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: trending in a direction to really contribute in twenty eighteen,

1083
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: and then injuries kind of took them out of that.

1084
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 1: Can Can Can Morgan Fox be this year's Matt long Acre? Yeah? Yeah,

1085
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, a guy that everyone had

1086
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: cut going into training camp, right, and then next thing

1087
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: you know, he's starting. Oh goodness, I didn't have him

1088
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: cut going into training camp though. For long Acre? Oh

1089
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: for long AG's what I mean. Yeah, and then all

1090
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden he's starting on game day, you know

1091
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: what I mean. I think it's a little bit different

1092
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: for Fox just in the sense that he seems to

1093
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: be a significant part of the defensive line rotation already,

1094
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: I hope. So, yeah, he's a We liked him ever

1095
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: since we saw him in preseason game number one way

1096
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: back when, right, yeah, when all he did was make plays. Yes,

1097
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: yeah against Minnesota too, I mean that last one in

1098
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, that was great. Yeah, he's got what you

1099
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: can't teach as a defensive lineman. If you gotta be wrong, wrong,

1100
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: five yards up the fields for sure. All right, Well,

1101
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: any parting shots, I'm gonna pretend like this isn't our

1102
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: last one. Okay, yeah, well you can do that, Matt.

1103
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Speaker 1: You got something over there. Don't let the movie in it,

1104
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: don't let the movie in Okay. Yeah, Well, I mean

1105
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't have very much to say. We did the

1106
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Speaker 1: sappy thing, really, I know we did the sappy thing

1107
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: the last time, So okay, I just I'll say this, like,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate people reaching out and it's been a pleasure.

1109
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: It's been fun. But yeah, yeah, never ever ever sleep

1110
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Speaker 1: on the floor of an airplane. Yeah, that's the Scutts.

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00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: We didn't watch. We did. Just read that nasty, Okay,

1112
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Speaker 1: that's it. Nasty. No, just saying appreciate working with you

1113
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate your professionalism and that's about it sounds talking

1114
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Speaker 1: to him or me. Oh y'all, well, I think that'll

1115
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: do it. Episode one between the Horns and take them

1116
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: back now. Oh baby, yeah, what is this? Oh it's

1117
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: the people that do the logical song. You ever watched

1118
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: The Office? Yes, okay, I'm taking my headset off now.

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Speaker 1: I'm walking away from set for a producer Matt for

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Speaker 1: DeMarco Farr. I'm Miles Simmons. So long, everybody,