WEBVTT - Hope ("Burned" S1 EP 10) 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:09.720 Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith and. 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:16.120 Daphne's Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast. How much fun was it? 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:17.720 Amazed with Vanessa Williams. 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.120 It was a amazing. She's such a goddess. 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:23.680 She looks amazing, her energy. I almost fell over. 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:25.880 And when I walked in the rain and her when 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:30.040 she looks better than thirty years ago. And I'm not exaggerating, 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:32.320 I'm not lying, I'm not going she's. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:37.280 Oh, my God's beautiful, so filled with like, joyful energy, 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:39.080 positive person. Yeah. 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.239 Yeah, And you know what I really liked was, you know, 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:44.360 we were getting fan stuff and kind of this resentment 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.400 of how she was let go so early on our show, 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:49.879 and so I was kind of worried about, like is 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:54.520 she going to have that. She so transformed herself and 0:00:54.600 --> 0:01:00.520 her story and that incident so beautifully and spiritually that 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.320 she carries the opposite energy. Absolutely, I know. I love 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.840 that too. She didn't avoid it, she didn't shirk it. 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.479 She talked about what a difficult time it was and 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:11.640 how she leaned into it and really healed. 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:13.800 She's so so open and honest and lovely. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:17.960 Yeah, so open and honest and actually deepened her spiritual life, 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.200 and she really used it for her good and to 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.560 really work on not letting her worth be defined by 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.840 her work, which is such a powerful message. 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.160 And I think everyone can relate to us. Yes, we 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.959 certainly can in our industy, absolutely, because we're at the 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.760 mercy of so many other things that we have no 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.679 control over. But I think people in general can relate 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.720 to that absolutely. And you are not what you work, 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:43.680 You are not your list, or that you're bigger than Yes, 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:45.080 you're no one thing. Yeah. 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:45.360 Right. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.440 It was just so interesting to have that experience with 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:52.120 her and then have this episode where she It was 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:53.840 just such an important start and we'll get to it. 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.560 We're going to get into the recap, but it was 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.160 just so interesting to have that conversation with her first 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:01.800 when we originally thought we were probably going to do 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.720 the recount first and then meet with her after that. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:04.960 It is so interesting to. 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.280 And maybe, uh, now the audience will get to see 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.560 what she meant when she went to Darren Remember to 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.480 change some of her lines and to change the story 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.840 according to Rohnda's perspective down in South Central, et cetera. 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.280 So I thought that was really cool, And you know, 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:23.119 this this episode now is different than it was originally 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:24.560 to me. Yeah, it's cool, it's great. 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.640 Well, the last time we were together we were in person, 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:29.720 and we're back on zoo. 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.000 Yeah, outs as you were out of town, Laura. How's 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:34.840 it going out of town? 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:35.800 Yeah, it's good. 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:37.440 Yeah, on the East coast. 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.960 Yeah, I'm in Connecticut to see Doug and his play. 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.120 How was it. How's it going? 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:49.600 It's going really well, amazing. Yeah, he's gotten over the opening. 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.560 You know, the first couple of performances, those those jitters 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:54.040 are out of the way, and now it's just like 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:58.120 regular jitters. For you know, every subsequent performance. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.320 Doesn't make you play do a play? The play is. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.560 Terrific and it's yeah, I mean it's that it's a 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:07.480 very exciting feeling in the theater and I get really 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.360 like the butterflies when the lights go down, you know, 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.320 before they're coming back up. I'm like that that whole 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.160 thing is just in my body too. So that's been 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:21.240 really fun. It's a new play and it's called Fever Dreams. 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:28.200 It's three characters. The other actor is Tim Decay, along 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:32.520 with my husband, Doug Avon and an actress Lang Young, 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.640 and the three of them are on the stage the 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:39.000 entire time, and it's there's so many twists and turns. 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.960 It's really almost hard to describe a little bit of 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:48.520 a triangle, but a lot of tension, and it must. 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:55.000 Be so much fun. Written by Jeffrey Leeber television series Lost. 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:59.200 Yes, and I just was so nervous. Yes, So Jeffrey 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.840 Raper is the play, right, and it's a terrific script. 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.000 He was co created Lost. 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:09.839 And wow, that's exciting. It's a wonderful play. How much 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:11.600 have you ever seen him on stage before? 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.240 I've never seen him in a play before. He hasn't 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:17.080 done one in so many years. So yeah, this was 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:21.120 This is a big, gutsy thing to do. And I'm 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:22.200 really proud of him. 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.720 It's so exciting because that's where we got our love 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:28.000 of acting, right, and TV and film are so different 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.560 from stage. It sounds so exciting. You can tell him all, 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:32.400 did you do theater? 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:37.000 Courtney? I did? I did you do it? I really 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:41.720 loved it Northern California? Oh yeah, okay, but not. 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:45.520 Since I've been acting in TV and film. It terrifies me. 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.520 But I love hearing you say it, Laura. It makes 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.559 me think maybe I could Maybe that would be because 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.400 it's such so much fun. 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.680 And Marcia Cross just finished doing a play and so 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.880 the same thing, like she said, oh my god, this 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:00.360 is a wonderful feeling. 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.359 But yeah, I think it's a I think it's daunting 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.919 and exciting. It's both right, the idea of getting on 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:09.080 stage and using more of your instrument than what TV 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.240 asks for, which is kind of here, and then film 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.560 like a little bit more. But I or it's so intimate, 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:20.880 you know, it's like and anything. Yeah, yeah, you're just 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.200 everything can happen, that's right. Yeah. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.120 I've only done one movie in my career that's shot 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.680 in order, in sequential order, so you were actually evolving 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:34.000 with your character. But usually it's in bits and pieces 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.240 here and there. You're trying to remember where you're coming 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:37.160 from and where you're going. 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.080 You get another take. In television and film you get 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.480 another take, and in theater you do not you do 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:42.960 you do. 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.160 Tomorrow night, though you get the next night and the 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:46.799 next you get a whole take. 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.240 You feel a long take, you get that. I did 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.560 a play here in La years ago. I've done a couple. 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:56.760 We had a strike, I don't know, fifteen years ago 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:58.720 or something, so I went up to Sanrancisco and did 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.400 a play, and before that, I did one here at 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:05.840 the Odyssey in West La Tartuffe, and I remember that 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:11.240 immediate connection with the audience. There is nothing like it 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.680 because it's so it's you just don't know. You're on 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.960 a type rope. You can't plan anything. You can rehearse 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.480 and rehearse like a take, or there's certain a moment 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:24.920 that you all rehearse this moment and the audience hopefully 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.800 they'll respond to it, but they could respond to something 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:29.719 else beforehand, and then you got to respond to them, 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:31.720 and I just it's so exciting. 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.279 Yeah, there was a funny moment in the play last night. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.600 It was it was a release. It was a serious 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:42.480 moment and like sort of a bomb of information was dropped, 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:48.200 and on that line, the entire audience went oh audibly 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.159 together and then then they all just started laughing because 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.279 they couldn't believe that there was such a collective response 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:59.520 out loud the audience. So it turned a very heavy 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:06.200 serious line into I'm laughing. It was I mean, I 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.240 was imagining on stage like that must have been. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.760 So confusing, but there was themselves. 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:14.600 The audience was so amused by like how collective. The 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.040 response was, that's great. 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.040 That's a great sign for the play too, that they 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:19.560 were all so invested. 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:20.800 Yeah, it came out of. 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:25.600 The one organism made a little mini or really fun 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:29.560 to see that, Yeah, and unexciting, completely unexpected to everybody 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:30.640 on stage and in the audience. 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.240 Yeah, the audience tells you the truth, right, Like I've 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.160 done a lot of sitcom and there will be a 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.200 joke that you laugh at all week, you can't wait 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:39.120 to get to it. You think it's brilliant, and the 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.160 audience is just crickets, and you go, I guess we 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.120 were wrong. You have like think of something you want 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.480 to fly. You're like, one thing, I know this joke 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:49.480 is gonna hit and just dead air. 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.920 Yeah yeah, well comedy anyway, we could this is a 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:54.360 whole podcast on itself. 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.440 Anyway, we're supposed to be doing a recap this. 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.440 Week one because this is another episode, like we've been 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.160 saying the beginning, where the whole group is in everything 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.680 and in several scenes. So they'll do like a three shot, 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.480 you know, and you know as an actor that that 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.280 could be after lunch sometime you're still shooting the same 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.920 scene and they're like Ronda getting closer to here. So 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.800 you have Ronda, Sandy, and you know Billy or you 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.200 have whatever. It's different every time, and you go it 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.040 just to me, is you remember those move in move in? Okay? 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.320 Now you got to like seem natural, like you're all 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.840 naturally hanging out in this group, you know, when not 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.440 seem they got to get their shot because they're not 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.440 going to do individuals. So I just noticed that a 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:38.000 few times in this one. Yeah, it was cute, all right. 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.920 So we're on episode episode ten of season one. The 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:45.960 episode title is Burned, directed by Janet Greek and for context, 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:50.400 this aired in September mid September of nineteen ninety two. 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:51.520 Wow. 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.480 So we open in the core aired Sandy greets Jake 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.760 as he returns home from work. She invites him upstairs 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:57.080 for beer. 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:57.960 He declines. 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.440 She then offers some pizza, which he changes his mind, 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.640 so he follows her up the stairs. The inside scenes apartment. 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.000 He is then surprised because the gang is there. They're 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.120 surprising Jake for his birthday, and then mid party, there's 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.720 a knock at the door and the door opens, revealing 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:20.839 Jake's mother flaming red hair sort of the fabulous, fancy pants, fabulous, 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:22.199 and she's looking for Jake. 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.839 And I remember her. I remember her on the show. 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:31.280 I was so fascinated by her skin, which is like orcelain. 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.400 It has never seen son like she is never seen 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:38.040 in her entire life. It was so beautiful up close 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:39.680 and you can still see it on the screen, but 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:41.720 in person you can't even believe it. 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.480 Well, she was a huge Broadway star. She starred in nine, 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:50.200 that huge. She was nominated for a Tony. She started 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:54.000 what she starred with Roald Julia and nine, if anyone remembers, 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.840 they made a film of it too, with Helpie Cruise. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.000 But she was in that kind of like fishnet floor 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.080 all see through thing, and it was she was the 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:07.120 sex bomb, which was sexy for its time even and 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:11.079 I think before that she was on Jesus Christ Superstar. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.360 You know, she was a huge Broadway legend and the 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:18.400 fact that she came to do our show was really 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.640 cool to see it. And you but you saw, I 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.200 thought in all of her scenes this sort of presence, 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:30.240 this presence, this theatrical presence, and with all those that curvy, 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.560 remember those shoulder blades with the shoulder. 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:35.960 And a little a. 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:37.480 Little sex spot even Yeah. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.800 Yeah, Well there's a cute scene before she walks in 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:41.800 where she runs into Billy on the stairs. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:47.160 Yeah, and she's walking like, hello, are you his date? 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.600 Because she's right the moment, she's a gettle older and 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:50.559 it's kind of confusing. 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.760 Yeah, and did you notice this subtle like she left 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.480 her suitcase at the bottom of the stairs. 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:57.320 I did notice that. 0:10:57.840 --> 0:10:59.839 Yeah, Like she goes up the stairs, but like she's 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:01.520 not can bring her suitcase. She doesn't want him to 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:03.280 know just yet, so she leaves her suitcase at the 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.079 bottom stairs, follows him up the stairs to this point. 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:11.160 Yeah, she's I'm not sure how she's going to be received, right, And. 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.280 Then very good scene between her and Amy. Yeah, we're 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.600 sesting each other out, trying to figure out what's happening. 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.600 Well, you notice this whole episode and at the party 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:25.160 they're that that parallel like Sandy's a younger version of 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:25.880 Jake's mother. 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.800 Absolutely, how did I both know that until you just 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.080 said that, because I'm like, of course that's so fu yea. 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:36.000 And they're both waitresses. How did I right over my head? 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:40.200 Thank you, Daphne right over both sun tanning by the 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.760 pool and like the older version and the younger version 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:46.760 of course, which kind of explains all the Sandy Jake 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:53.200 stuff that they're constantly you know, because there's like a. 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.520 A little I'm here to represent our slower fans. 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.800 That's okay, we're here to recap the entire episode for you. 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:04.800 We'll remind you and then you'll go, oh yeah, Bertney. 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.000 You play Alison, okay. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.320 And Alison was there at the party. And so they're 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.120 having this party for Jake and he's very uncomfortable because 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.920 his mom is making herself a little comfortable with all 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.600 of his friends, and it's clear that he doesn't really 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:19.360 want her there. 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.600 And you see the hysterical scene when it must it 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.360 was improv and and she's talking to. 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.360 Doug and they're talking about parent just loses it. He 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:29.720 loses it. 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.800 He Belli laughs because she's she says something about it's 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.640 just really plumping and pumping up. His head goes back 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:36.840 and he knows I'm plumping. 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:38.000 He can't even get it out. 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:40.920 He didn't see it coming. 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.320 Yes. What I love is that the director and the 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:47.440 editor kept that in, like I know, yeah. 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.959 So Jake is uncomfortable, but she's you know, making herself 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:54.240 very comfortable in the middle of the party, Billy has 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.280 to leave. He has to go to work, so he 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:01.800 leaves the party to go drive his cab night. He's 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.520 driving a passenger with groceries into a neighborhood that the 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.640 passenger as she's getting out, she remarks that it's difficult 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.560 to get a cab to drive to this neighborhood and 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:14.559 she thinks him and she says, also, yeah, in a 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.520 part of South LA And she says, ever since the trouble, 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.320 he feels afraid to ride the bus. And the trouble 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:25.760 she's referring to is the La riots that were earlier 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.640 that year, in nineteen and two. So the La Riots 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:34.280 in Los Angeles were April of ninety two, and this 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.840 was since this episode was airing in September. It was written, 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.559 you know, shortly after, probably in July. 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.640 Whatever are you here during the riots? Both of you? Yes, yeah, 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:47.320 I'm sure it was really scary, So it was I 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:52.360 think this was This reminded me, Laura that Melvoe's the 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.920 writers did this a lot. They took stuff from that 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.680 was very sort of going on in the real world, 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.920 and they took stuff from the you know, head often 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:05.840 and this was. Yeah, this was you know, the riots 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.120 started because of the Rodney King beating. 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.760 Where the verdict, Yeah, the verdict that was announced in April. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.600 After a video tape. It was the first time it 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.400 was videotape, the beating of a black man. So this 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.560 is just for the audience who maybe doesn't remember or 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:23.240 doesn't know that, you know, this is what it's being 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.240 revisited in this episode, and that the origin which isn't 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.800 talked about in the episode is from that the Rodney 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:29.960 King beating. 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:32.760 Yea, and the cops who beat him to a pulp. 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.240 It was horrible to watch got off. The video went 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.120 by and yeah, yeah, and then they got off. 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.000 They got off. That verdict was announced and these white 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.800 cops were you know, not charged. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.360 The la riots happened and there were fires and the 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:52.680 just looting and trashing and we were all here. 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.440 Yeah, lasted for five days. It was very There was 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:00.000 a lot of outrage and it was. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:01.360 Yeah, understandable outrage. 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:01.640 Yep. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:08.360 Absolutely. So he drops off his passenger and she has 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.960 said she's you know, thanks him, She's afraid to ride 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.960 the bus. Billy then clocks a group of men watching 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:17.200 him as he drops off his passenger. He nervously gets 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:18.800 back in his car to drive away, and the men 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.760 also get into their car and they start to follow 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.440 Billy as he drives away. Billy then makes the mistake 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.080 of turning into a dead end street, and the car 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.920 full of guys follows him, blocking him in, and then 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.480 they get out of the car with baseball bats and 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.440 they start smashing up Billy's cab. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:38.240 Smashing up the car shield. Yeah, the WM shield right 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.840 into that. The camera there and Mary. 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.920 Cuts away right on that smash, and then we go 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.440 back to the birthday party, where Jake is still feeling 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.920 uncomfortable with his mom while she makes herself more comfortable. 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:50.960 I think this is where she says the plumping comment, 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:55.520 because then Doug laughs big and Sandy's talking to Jake 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.200 and says, you know, you should cut her some slack. 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:01.840 She's really trying, and Jay tells her to butt out. 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.240 Then the phone rings and Allison answers to learn that 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.640 Billy is at the police station and was rob so 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:07.640 she leaves to go meet. 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.000 Him there, which could have been a lot worse. I 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.600 got to say, after that last scene, very few hundred. 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.480 Percent we're glad to hear that that's all it is, 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.200 so we go to the police station with her. Billy's 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.840 talking to an officer who tells him that he was 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.160 lucky it was only the car that got hurt and 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:25.280 that Billy should perhaps be more picky about his fares 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.680 who he picks up. Billy is frustrated the officer doesn't 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.080 seem to think he's going to do with anything more 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.720 to find the guys who did it. Billy says, come on, 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.360 I know where they hang out. Alison then arrives. She's 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.600 very relieved he's okay. Billy expresses his frustration, saying, I 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:43.160 don't get it. These people are trying to make me 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.080 feel like I committed the crime by going down there. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.200 So we go back to Jake's apartment. Jake asks his 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.560 mom why she is here, and we learned that it's 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.280 been five years since they've seen each other, and he 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.240 wonders if she needs money, and that's when his mom 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.520 reveals she's left the guy she's been with, this guy Hank, 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.320 because he was drinking and maybe some abuse, and she's 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:07.199 looking for a place to stay, and Jake sort of 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.280 calls her out for kicking him out when he needed her, 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:13.440 saying she never wanted him, and Stella claims she's changed 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:15.200 and wants Jake. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.200 And that she never did kick him out. She never 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.240 kicked him out, but that's how he perceived it. I 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:26.359 thought this storyline was so interesting how a child his 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.919 point of view or her point of view to the parent, 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:31.960 and the parent was a young mom and she is 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:35.440 how she is and you know it's not doesn't say 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.280 in this scene, but later she says she was nineteen. 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.280 That's so young. Can you imagine being nineteen and have 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.040 and she was terrified that she was she going to 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:47.159 do it. So but that's not his problem, his problem. 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:49.879 He experienced what he experienced. So it really is just 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:51.680 something that I think we can all relate to that 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:57.400 our our parents, you know. And this I liked this storyline. 0:17:58.080 --> 0:17:59.280 It was tough too, and. 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:02.440 It gives us a lot of insight into why Jake 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.920 moves through the world the way he does. Yeah, he's 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.520 so independent and he's so tough, and he doesn't really 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.639 trust women and doesn't it really intimate relationships because he 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.800 felt like he couldn't really trust his mother, right. 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.920 And I thought Grant's performance for this episode was really 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.000 good and he wants and yeah, I agree because he 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.280 had to play a lot of colors and just the 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:26.280 torment of and doesn't wanting a mother but maybe not 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.159 this one with this type of behavior, and how it 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.119 broke his heart. And so that was a real struggle 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.440 for him to try to figure out how to yeah 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:33.919 move for. 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.920 He's really great at the tough guy with the heart 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:41.120 of gold. That is so a sweet. 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.680 Spot for him because it's who he is, right, He's 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.040 like kind of a tough guy, he's a sweet guy 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:47.280 and I love it when you get to see him. 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.560 That's a hard thing to play, to play so well. 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.040 So then Billy and Allison at are returning home. They 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:54.760 come to the courtyard and the gang wants to hear 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.639 what happened, and they're all relieved that Billy is okay. 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.240 Billy sarcastically says maybe he should write a note to 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:05.600 the gang the gang bangers in gratitude for not hurting him, 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.879 and that the police were very unhelpful, perhaps because he 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:13.080 is victim ten billion and one. So Billy describes feeling 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:14.760 very powerless that he had to just sit there and 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.840 take it when he was being attacked, and he says, 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.240 those people can have that part of town if they 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.760 want it because I'm never driving down there again. 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.560 They all hold our collective breath. We go take it back, 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:29.840 take it back, take it back. 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:36.080 Which then Ronda questions him, what do you mean down 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:37.880 there to the jungle? 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.600 She asks, Well, first of all, she says, what do 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.800 you mean those people? Right? Is the crux of this 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:50.120 whole episode, the other rising and the making a certain 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:53.480 group of people, whether it be in this case it's 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:58.240 blacks to be all what they call a monolith like 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:02.000 those people. Well, you wouldn't say that about white people. 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.879 They're not, because our experience is that we're all different, 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.719 we're all different experiences. So that's to me that that 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:11.439 is the crux of the whole Yeah, and really brave. 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:14.720 I thought brave for the writers to do this because 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:18.760 we had one African American character and to tell this 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.720