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Speaker 3: I do not want your cat here. I told my mom,

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Speaker 2: and I think I said what forty six percent said?

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Speaker 5: Bring and shit and constantly disappointed because don't nobody walked

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Speaker 2: m m. You can't bring your lighty hair around bringing food.

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Speaker 2: Come on now now, eating dead lice or whatever medicated lice? No,

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Speaker 2: thank you. Seventeen ninety one, those negroes. We had five

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Speaker 2: Let's see here. We got Clarence who said Clarence Crawford

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Speaker 2: Kanye's behalf is that he didn't or doesn't have someone

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Speaker 3: It was like, okay, cool, so we go this way,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's also weird because for like with people like

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Speaker 2: right because they have something to gain by being his friends.

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Speaker 2: I think if you really want to know how people

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Speaker 2: I respect them, Like they don't do any of that

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Speaker 2: shit for people that don't have pull Kanye just happens

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Speaker 2: After a while, Phil says, Hey, Rod and Karen, why

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Speaker 2: It seems that no one else has been given this

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Speaker 2: we need to wrap our arms around our family in

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Speaker 2: these tough times as Kanye has. The black women not

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Speaker 2: getting promoted thing is angering but not too surprising neither. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's a different subject. Well, you know what else I

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, so truth show she a black woman and nine

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Speaker 5: Women, it was more hurtful and not try to be funny.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna be like, oh, oh, we know it's gonna

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Speaker 3: Cool, but they're looking like USUS, USUS.

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Speaker 5: Useless, Like I actually listen to your music, I support you, useless,

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Speaker 5: and I think, yeah, that is women actually made a

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Speaker 2: No, I agree with you. I'm sorry. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: are y'all got rid of Christmas? At Michelle? But I

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Speaker 2: shouldn't even say support, who just are anti Republican and

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Speaker 2: literally just you didn't have the rains to try this

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I really do think that that affected her

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Speaker 5: make this audience. Mac guess what we will stop purchasing

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Speaker 5: I'm not trying to be funny, but they don't support

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Speaker 3: Unwarned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure people told Kanye too.

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Speaker 2: Of course black women not getting promoted thing is angering,

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Speaker 2: Lets me know I made the right choice as to

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Speaker 2: pay a dime to profit from it. Now, let me

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Speaker 2: go grab my binoculars to fire my Instagram for some

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Speaker 2: butt browsing with a snack of hot apple piees. Phil,

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Speaker 2: have a good one, Phil, thank you for right now.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Classic R and B lover, says hi Rod

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Speaker 2: and car Farrell's comments do not surprise me. I don't

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Speaker 2: felt about it at the time. Like, sometimes I feel

435
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 2: like celebrities say shit about race and it's not like

436
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 2: Twitter certified, credentialed through the prism of like scholarship and

437
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 2: all this shit, and they may not mean much harm

438
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 2: by it says a lot about how they feel and

439
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: what they think about race. But you know, I don't

440
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 2: I don't remember being too mad about him saying that.

441
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 2: I just remember being like, yeah, that he's on that

442
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 2: other shit, you know what I mean. But I don't

443
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 2: know this. This Kanye shit feels different than me. It

444
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 2: feels like a lot of the way that people are

445
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 2: being nice about Kanye is specifically because it's Kanye correct

446
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 2: because he said stuff like I don't agree with him,

447
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: and of course, and I'm like, well, if you don't

448
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 2: agree with him, it's kind of hard to then turn

449
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 2: around and defend anything he's doing, you know, But but yeah,

450
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 2: you're right. I think a lot of these niggas get

451
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 2: rich and think differently about race and shit. Monica says,

452
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: I'm definitely one of the many black women feeling underappreciated

453
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: at the workplace. I've become such a leader on my

454
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 2: team that a couple of months ago, I moved up

455
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 2: to my supervisor's old desk. Once you moved to a

456
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 2: private office, I'm literally in the supervisor's seat and it's

457
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: left to me to oversee and facilitate much of the

458
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 2: work each day. There has been no change in my

459
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: title and no pay increase. Come on, I will be

460
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 2: speaking up for myself and asking for the conversation the

461
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: title I deserve. I feel awkward about it, but this

462
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: is just how it is. Love y'all, you help me

463
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 2: keep me saying, Monica.

464
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 5: Right, and stuff like that make you mad too, particularly

465
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 5: when they don't want to give you the pay but

466
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 5: they want to give you all the work. They want

467
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 5: to give you all the responsibilities, but they don't want to

468
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 5: give you the title or the pay grade increase or

469
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 5: any that shit. And also it's one of those things too,

470
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 5: particularly when it comes to black women and you demand

471
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 5: a raise or either let's let's say you go get

472
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 5: another job. I don't know, but since we don't get raised,

473
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 5: I guarantee you if you and I've seen this happen.

474
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 3: Somebody before they.

475
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 5: Got another job, came back to the company was like, hey,

476
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 5: you know I'm going here. They're paying this much, you know,

477
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 5: which y'all been willing to match it. If y'all would,

478
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 5: I'll stay and they.

479
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 3: Was like, we won't.

480
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: She was like, I'm gone, yeah.

481
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like shit like that, Like

482
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 5: you know, it's like, okay, Now, if I was a

483
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 5: white dude, which you and accomplishing and half asseding or

484
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 5: whatever the case may be, you probably would have tried

485
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 5: to keep me or at least raise my pace somewhat.

486
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Speaker 2: And the poem was it's Pharrell right that we owe

487
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: it to Kanye to support him. Yes nah, that nigga

488
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: just talking, yes, zero percent nah, forty say nah. And

489
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: Caesar said said that Nigga just talking. Joe says, tell

490
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: it to your John ass hat for real. Oh yeah,

491
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: we're happening to for real them giant ass hats, right.

492
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 2: I don't even remember what happened with that shit. Then

493
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: we had episode seventeen ninety two where we had Janelle

494
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: James on and it's it's so funny when we have

495
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: Janelle on because I enjoy her, the guests enjoyer. We

496
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 2: get all these comments on social media, no comments on

497
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: the actual website page, like just your own line was lit.

498
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 2: I guess everybody just enjoyed it and wanted to talk

499
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 2: to us on Facebook, get Twitter about it. And then

500
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: it was like, all right, so that's it. Nothing to

501
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: say here. I'll never understand. I felt like, they do they.

502
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 3: Do love you though, baby honey, they was posting it.

503
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: I felt like that was a very fun episode and

504
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: we talked about so many silly, funny things and ideas.

505
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: And then we get to Saturday and it's happened a

506
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: few times like that, Like some we have certain guests

507
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, everybody's gonna want to get in

508
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: on this discussion, and Saturday it's like, Nope, nope, we

509
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: have nothing to ask You guys are great.

510
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: You tweeted at your Tuesday.

511
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the poll. Though. Should the

512
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: White House Correspondence Dinner have a comedian this year, Yes

513
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: or no? Eighty seven percent of y'all, Karen, what do

514
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: you think? Yes? Seven percent of audience agree with you.

515
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: Thirteen percent says no. I'd love to hear from more

516
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: than those. Uncle Bob says, Ever since Michelle will Fried

517
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: Huckabye Sanders at the Correspondence dinner last year, she hasn't

518
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: worn that smoky eyed public since those jokes hit home.

519
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: How some jokes remove a portion of your makeup rotation snowflakes, right,

520
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: Joe says, this dinner has long outlived as usefulness. It

521
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 2: needs to go back to being a born event where

522
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: white folks in the media and white folks in the

523
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: government commiserate over boil chicken and limp green beans and

524
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: give speeches about the First Amendment. The only reason they

525
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,239
Speaker 2: go to what the comic is because it is the

526
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: only part of the public. It's the only part of

527
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: the public is interested in. Obama was the only president

528
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: who was ever funny there. Even the journalists don't like

529
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: being roasted by the comics, so they should stop going

530
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: through it just so they can have some content for

531
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: that weekend. Roast culture is not for the week You

532
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 2: know what, Joe I feel you. I was hoping somebody

533
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: will say why they said no, And uh, that's actually

534
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: a really good point.

535
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they're not made for that life and truth

536
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 5: be told, not that funny. Just don't do the shit,

537
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 5: like if you're not gonna read a comedian, why the

538
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 5: fuck are y'all gathering together?

539
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like you're gonna what's out anyway? And you're right,

540
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 2: I do cat every year. They act defending every year,

541
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: like the channels, whenever someone gets roasted, it's like see

542
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: it in gets mad, MSNBC gets mad, and is this appropriate?

543
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: It's like, well, just leave state, respect comedy or leave

544
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: it alone.

545
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: Right.

546
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 5: It's one of those things that people want to dabble

547
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 5: with comedy, but they don't want to deal with the

548
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 5: truth that comes from comedy because majority of your jokes,

549
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 5: all jokes have a ounce of truth in it and

550
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 5: some of just one truthful, but it's truth in the jokes,

551
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 5: and people don't want to hear and nobody ever wants

552
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 5: to be the punchline of jokes, but everybody wants to

553
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 5: tell jokes, but they don't want to actually deal with

554
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 5: the roast thing that comes from like jokes and joke

555
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 5: battles a like you said, why the fuck would you

556
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 5: have a comedian, because that's what the fuck you paid

557
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 5: the comedian to do. So either make it boring or

558
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 5: either just don't have it at all.

559
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just and it's not just Trump. I'm

560
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: glad Joe brought that up because I think now I'm

561
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: thinking more clearly, like, yeah, they do get mad, and

562
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: then the media doesn't know how to handle it because

563
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: I remember them vilifying Michelle Wolf for her jokes and

564
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: then making it seem like she was like going in

565
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: on Sarah Huckabee Sanders in some unfair way. And yeah,

566
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: and this woman is essentially the mouthpiece for evil, right,

567
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: Like why is she getting all this sympathy from y'all

568
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: and she's gonna turn around to kick y'all out of

569
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: press events and talk about y'all and y'all are sitting

570
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: up here trying to protect her image like it never

571
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 2: made sense, So, yeah, you're right, don't do it. We

572
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 2: had some comments on seventeen ninety three Welcome to the Cookout.

573
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: Ellen Dia says, I can't stand Sarah Palin. What I

574
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: especially hate about that moose bitch is that we share

575
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 2: the same birthday. Moose, bitch, I know that's due. Moose, bitch,

576
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: get out the way.

577
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 3: I guess this moose is up up there where she at.

578
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: Uh Evie E says, uh Roger. You know what. At first,

579
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: I couldn't get behind the idea you inviting all these

580
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: colonizes to our cookout. But the more I think about it,

581
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 2: I've been to too many black events that say it's

582
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 2: gonna start a certain time, only for the food to

583
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: not even be cooked till a few hours after the

584
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: original time. Yeah. I was looking at Justin face home

585
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: on his Facebook page and he was like Thanksgiving selfie

586
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: and he was always smiling, and he was looking very

587
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 2: Nobody was sitting with him, and he was looking very upset.

588
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: And I said, let me guess they told you the

589
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: food's gonna be ready at too, and it's already four.

590
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: And he said, no comment, because we know what it was.

591
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: That's why we need to invite more white people to

592
00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: our events. So yes, we need to. We need those

593
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: places and chess. And I'm not opposed to the white

594
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: people bringing a dish as long as that it's store

595
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 2: bought or cheese. And the fruit fruit trade I can

596
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: get behind that, So come on, Ellen, TJ and Bernie

597
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: and y'all know what.

598
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 5: Y'all know what it be pretty y'all gonna fuck around,

599
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 5: have linen claws and.

600
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: It's you the pieces and bullshit.

601
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: Come on, we're gonna have bases.

602
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 5: It's gonna be fancy with them because they'll have hours

603
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 5: to set up before we start eating.

604
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want them to bring like some pop Eyes.

605
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: I'm cool, like table runners. We're gonna be doing all

606
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: the matha Steward cheese, bring bring paper places and pop

607
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: Eyes come to this cookout. At least we'll have something

608
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: to snack on while we wait for them ribs exactly.

609
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: The wings, get us to the ribs. That's what I'm saying.

610
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: The poe was Ellen Pompeo, Welcome to the cookout. No,

611
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: she's trash or she's not trash, but Rob, you gotta

612
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: stop inviting people to the cookout. Thirty eight percent said

613
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: welcome to the cookout. Yes, that's what I'm talking about,

614
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: Come on through.

615
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah I approved this one. I'm fine with her. Yeah.

616
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: I read a piece on the route, but that was

617
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: like anti herb. But the piece was no offense to

618
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: the to the person who wrote it, but it was

619
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: just very personal. It was like, she didn't apologize to me,

620
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: So y'all, KB, don't be food. It's no way she

621
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: could be one hundred percent on the up and up

622
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: if she didn't apologize to me for tweets from two

623
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: years ago. And I'm like, I said, no offense. But yeah,

624
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: I'm that that's too bad. But I think people are

625
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: not like necessarily responsible to go back and do that

626
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: kind of shit because Twitter is not that important to everybody,

627
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: Like you, mixed in.

628
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 5: With the hundreds of thousands of responses was probably getting

629
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 5: because that's a thing when it comes to shit like that,

630
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 5: everybody sees the person's response, but nobody ever actually go

631
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 5: look look at the replies. If people actually paying attention

632
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 5: to replies, you would actually see why people are responding

633
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 5: to what they are.

634
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I said, most importantly, Twitter is not

635
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: that important to everybody. I think it's hard for people

636
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: that are on Twitter a lot, and I'm on Twitter

637
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: a lot. It's hard for people who are on Twitter

638
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: a lot to imagine it not being that important to somebody.

639
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 5: Right cause the second you talk to somebody outside of

640
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 5: that realm and you start using that name then people

641
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 5: gonna be.

642
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: Like, what the fuck?

643
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 2: Who is this?

644
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: Why is this important?

645
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: Right? Like it only becomes important when it makes like

646
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: some serious news headlines for some of these people, but

647
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: in general, like a lot of them just be like,

648
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: y'all can shit on me all day, that's not gonna

649
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: change who I am, Like I have to walk in

650
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Speaker 2: the spirit or who I am on it offline, and

651
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Speaker 2: you know, a bunch of people being mad at me

652
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: can't be the be all end all, and if you

653
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Speaker 2: really real it won't be, you know. So you know,

654
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Speaker 2: maybe people don't always have the perfect words to express

655
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Speaker 2: how they feel, and maybe they express things that aren't

656
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Speaker 2: the best sometimes like this, Uh, there's this thing with

657
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Speaker 2: Gina Rodriguez that started up yesterday or the day before,

658
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Speaker 2: and she's apparently been quote unquote problematic and whatever, and

659
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't like start researching it. Was like, I don't

660
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Speaker 2: find this the be as bad as people are making

661
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Speaker 2: it out to be, Like at some point it's just

662
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: about piling on and jumping on this person and doing this.

663
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Speaker 2: But some of the shit she was saying, I was like,

664
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Speaker 2: that's either not that bad or I can see the

665
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Speaker 2: perspective that she has where a lot of black people

666
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Speaker 2: share too, where it's not as bad as people are

667
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: making out to be. And I think when you approach

668
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Speaker 2: things from that angle of being like, well, maybe it's

669
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Speaker 2: as bad as y'all say, maybe not, let me look

670
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: into it, it's like people feel to put this pressure

671
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Speaker 2: on you to be like and you need to jump

672
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: to the same conclusion I'm at or else you're trash,

673
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Speaker 2: you know, And it's like, I think that's kind of

674
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Speaker 2: what happened with the Ellen Pompeo thing too, where it's like,

675
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Speaker 2: I think her statements were kind of I think, first

676
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Speaker 2: of all, statements were well intended. I thought they weren't

677
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Speaker 2: that bad. Two actually got the first one was good.

678
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Speaker 2: The only thing I thought was bad was the stuff

679
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Speaker 2: at the end when she kind of said, like, you know,

680
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Speaker 2: I'm experiencing this shit from both sides of people coming

681
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Speaker 2: at me, at people, And I was like, but at

682
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Speaker 2: the same time, if I was in her mentions, I

683
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Speaker 2: guarantee she did. It's easy for us to say she

684
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Speaker 2: didn't because we're not We're not concerned with what people

685
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Speaker 2: what is being said to her. We're concerned we're trying

686
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Speaker 2: to make her understand our point but if you look

687
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: at the things that people are saying to her, like,

688
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: some of that shit was ridiculous, and it's it's fucked

689
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: up that people never take that into account.

690
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Speaker 5: So anyway, Yeah, nobody cares unless it's them. Like, literally,

691
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Speaker 5: nobody cares unless your timeline is getting blown up. People

692
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Speaker 5: are at and you know, my friend or something. Right,

693
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Speaker 5: then all of a sudden you become concerned, you know,

694
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Speaker 5: because it's all fun of games and its jokes. As

695
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Speaker 5: long as somebody else is getting torn down or somebody

696
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Speaker 5: else you don't like or you just don't care about,

697
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 5: or you just don't know who they are, it's cool then, right.

698
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Speaker 2: Anyway, Joe says, how exactly that rod get so many

699
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: cookout vouchers it's basically a covered dish supper at this point. Well,

700
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: that may not be cultural, but I only ever heard

701
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Speaker 2: that terror stated by green Bean Castrol Crew. I don't know.

702
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Speaker 2: I think all black people have unlimited cookout invites, That's

703
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Speaker 2: what I heard.

704
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Speaker 5: And unlimited for you know, we're gonna have tons of

705
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Speaker 5: limit on four. White folks gonna bring the limit of four.

706
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Speaker 5: In case y'all don't know, white folks bring a limitum four,

707
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Speaker 5: We can never have enough illuminum.

708
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Speaker 2: Four h and then we had the last episode of

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Speaker 2: the week, which is always our Walking Dead recap. Only

710
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Speaker 2: one more of these in the year, right, uh. Eve

711
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Speaker 2: He says, I enjoyed this episode, but it wasn't exciting

712
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Speaker 2: as the previous episode. Although I'm still enjoying this new

713
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: showrunner because the show doesn't drag like it did last season.

714
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Speaker 2: I got to think about Rick and his black son.

715
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Speaker 2: I think meaghan ultimate revenge is get out of prison,

716
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Speaker 2: seduce Michean to raise rick son, as he is essentially

717
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Speaker 2: taking taking Rick's family. That would be hilarious, although I

718
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 2: don't think Michean would go for that, but who knows.

719
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Speaker 2: On the cold nights, a system might get lonely. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: everybody keeps saying Meaghan, but I'm like, it's a lot

721
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: of means walking around pop unattached. I mean, I don't know.

722
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Speaker 2: I feel like she should have her pick of the litter,

723
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Speaker 2: you know.

724
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Speaker 3: So I don't think it's gonna be vegan.

725
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Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be mean either.

726
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Speaker 2: I feel like me is such a like that's such

727
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Speaker 2: a sie and it doesn't make sense. But right, it

728
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: wouldn't make sense, you know, I know, And that would

729
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: be like the second time Ricks, like kind of enemy

730
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: becomes the surrogate father to his kids. Like that would

731
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Speaker 2: make him such a cook. I can't I can't imagine it.

732
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Speaker 2: Oh and Sadik just sitting out there looking like a

733
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Speaker 2: snack attached to people I don't understand. And then we

734
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Speaker 2: had the poe with no comments. Are Aaron and Jesus

735
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: is an item? Yes? Or nah? I don't see it?

736
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Speaker 2: What do you think? Yes? Our audience agrees with you

737
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Speaker 2: that yes, they are an item, which means six percent

738
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Speaker 2: of the audience says they don't see it. They think

739
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Speaker 2: they just hanging out and I mean a little too

740
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Speaker 2: much into it.

741
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Speaker 3: We out here training in the woods, escaping away from everybody.

742
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Speaker 2: Y'all.

743
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Speaker 3: Ain't Garotti chopping the whole time?

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Speaker 2: All right? We had we had one voicemail this week,

745
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: left at our phone number seven oh four five five

746
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: seven zero one eighty six. You can lead a voicemail.

747
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: We'll play it on the shelf, and today is no exception,

748
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: and we'll just wait on Skype to play.

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Speaker 6: Hello and Rod and Karen, it's ale Bra. I just

750
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 6: started listening to your episode seventeen ninety one, where you're

751
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 6: talking about the gay agenda that's fought against in your

752
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 6: state of North Carolina, not just in your seat, but

753
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 6: I'm talking, I'm responding to your LGBTQ the first story.

754
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 6: So the only reason why I'm not my top is

755
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 6: not flipping off and I'm losing my shit is because

756
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 6: I love your voices.

757
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: Rod.

758
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 6: When you do like southern folk or folk, you have

759
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 6: some sort of like anti people who do just fucking

760
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 6: exist things. And that's the only reason why I'm not

761
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 6: losing my goddamn shit, because I'm so sick of these

762
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 6: people saying that this is a fucking choice. I am

763
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 6: a cist, gender heterosexual woman, but I am not blind

764
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Speaker 6: to the plight and the struggle that people in the

765
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Speaker 6: LGBTQ community suffer. And I can't believe that these idiots

766
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 6: are constantly talking about how it's a fucking choice. It's

767
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 6: so annoying. It's so annoy like people choose to be

768
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 6: god damn beat all the time, Like people choose to

769
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 6: have to in just loving who they want to love,

770
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 6: being who they want to be, living the life that

771
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 6: that is meant for them. It's so annoying. I'm so angry,

772
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 6: so I'm just doing out my anger on your voice.

773
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 6: And I hope that this isn't too incoherent or like rancy.

774
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 6: But I'm just fucking sick of it, all right. But

775
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Speaker 6: I love your guys. I love you guys.

776
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Speaker 2: She got cut off, but you know, I know she

777
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: was wrapping up. Thank you, Allegra. It's funny. Allegra even

778
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: sounds pleasant when she's mad. She's like, I am fuming.

779
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: I am very upset right now. I don't understand these biggots.

780
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 2: You're right, she still sounds like very nice and yeah,

781
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: And I don't even take it a step further because

782
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Speaker 2: one of the things I used to kind of say was,

783
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Speaker 2: I mean, because I do believe that for the vast

784
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Speaker 2: majority of people, sexual orientation is not a choice. Gender orientation.

785
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Speaker 2: I don't think these are things that people are just

786
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Speaker 2: like necessarily choosing. I think in the way that me

787
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: being straight feels hardwired into my body in DNA and brain,

788
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 2: I'm sure that other spectrum people on the spectrum feel

789
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: certain ways and like this is just me. But I'll

790
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: take it even further and go even if it was

791
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Speaker 2: a choice, even if one hundred percent of people who

792
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: are gay make the choice to be gay, even if

793
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: every religious bigot who is like, these people are choosing

794
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: to be gay, and they can choose to be straight,

795
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Speaker 2: and they should, you know, they should just make the

796
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Speaker 2: right choice quote unquote, even if they were one hundred

797
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: percent right and everyone's making a choice. It's a free country.

798
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Speaker 2: They're consenting adults, right, and they should be able to

799
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Speaker 2: make that choice, and people should be supportive of it,

800
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: you know, like people choose their own guns, right, Like

801
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 2: we have a country that legally backs up the fact

802
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: that someone can choose their own guns. And we know

803
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: guns are danger to people in the society. People are

804
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: literally killing people with their guns. No one talks about

805
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: the gun agenda, you know, in.

806
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 3: The in the series propaganda, which is fucking real.

807
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: Right, these are real things that happen that lead to

808
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 2: loss of life. We are under the threat of people

809
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: having guns and just going to a mall and shooting

810
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: shit up. And yet people will look at you sideways

811
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Speaker 2: if you say, yeah, these these these this culture of

812
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 2: uh people being gay is not a threat and we

813
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: should support it, like you should. We should just support

814
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Speaker 2: the idea of whatever people want to do. But yeah,

815
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Speaker 2: I don't think people necessarily opt into some of these

816
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: marginalized struggles that people have to go through, But even

817
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: if they did, well, I just want I just think

818
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: we should be more supportive of it. And yeah, even

819
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: with LGBTQ news, fucking with black people all the stuff,

820
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: it's really depressing news when you think about it. But

821
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: I like to make it fun and have fun with it.

822
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: And still because we still gotta live, we still gotta breathe,

823
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: we still want to smile, we still have hope for

824
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: each other in the future, and we're still gonna, you know,

825
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: find the joy in where we are and what we're doing.

826
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: At least that's what I'm gonna try to do with

827
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: with with my life. So you know, if I can

828
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 2: add a little Southern Twain to these bigoted ass people

829
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: who all do talk like that, then I'm gonna do it.

830
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Speaker 2: But thank you for writing it. I call it in

831
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Speaker 2: thank you. Also, before we do these emails, we only

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Speaker 2: got a couple and this is ah, this is gonna

833
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Speaker 2: be a really short feedback show. Before we do this,

834
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Speaker 2: I did want to say, now's the time, guys email

835
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Speaker 2: us the black guy who tips at gmail dot com. Uh,

836
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Speaker 2: email us your mailing addresses, and we have the Black

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Speaker 2: Guy who Tips Christmas cards.

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Speaker 5: Yep, we're doing it again this year. We're gonna send

839
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Speaker 5: them out. We've already got some email addresses. Yeah, so

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Speaker 5: mailing addresses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah so mailing addresses. So the Black Guy who Tips

842
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Speaker 2: at gmail dot com. We will send these until they

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Speaker 2: run out, basically just new twenty eighteen Christmas cards, and

844
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Speaker 2: we hope you guys, you know, enjoy them. It's a

845
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: little perk. It's a lot of work for me, but

846
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: we do enjoy it doing this for folks, and we

847
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 2: will accept holiday gift cards as well. Our mailing address

848
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: you can find it the Black Guy who Tips dot

849
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Speaker 2: com slash about That page has our meiling address on

850
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: it if I remember, which I probably won't, but if

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00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 2: I remember, I will try to put our meiling address

852
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: in the show notes for this specific episode. In case

853
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: you're like, I want to mail them a Christmas card

854
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: or something like that, you can just get it from there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And I like the Christmas cards and the gifts and

857
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Speaker 5: stuff that you guys send us. And for those of

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Speaker 5: you that's wondering, we've had it for a few years,

859
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 5: but we do have an Amazon wish list.

860
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah. So for those of.

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Speaker 5: You that's like I want to kind of get rod

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Speaker 5: and carry something, you can go to that and it's

863
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 5: a list, not expensive stuff, just a list of things

864
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 5: that little things we kind of say, hey what about this,

865
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 5: what about this?

866
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 3: And those actually come directly to us.

867
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so thank you for everybody takes the time out

868
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 2: to do all that stuff. And you know you don't

869
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: have to. There's no obligation though. We're not sitting around

870
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: like checking the mailbox like I can't believe I didn't

871
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: get this DVD. Like it's totally fine.

872
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: Right, it is okay.

873
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: Some people want to do it, and that's cool. We

874
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: appreciate y'all to take the time out and want to

875
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: do it.

876
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: We love that as much as we love them.

877
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: Free five stars, right, you can also get us five

878
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: stars for Christmas. We will take it.

879
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 3: Come on, give us five of you already, put five,

880
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 3: give us ten.

881
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: Right, put five on it. All right, let's go to

882
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 2: these emails. Just because I cackled Ms Martykin's right saying

883
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: I was listening to the shows from yesterday Sunday, November eighteen,

884
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 2: feedback on Saturday, and I was cackling and just wanted

885
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: to throw some love your way because you do a

886
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: lot for your community, and because someone was talking about

887
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: a new name for DIAMONDU Silk, I would like to

888
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: humbly suggest Rhymestone not to be mistaken with Rhymestone. So

889
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: Rhymestone and Rayon if I can remember it. I mean,

890
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: I just kind of call them the first thing that

891
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 2: pops in my head. It's saying to be honest, but

892
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: I will try to remember. Advertising feedback is from a

893
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 2: meal who says, hey, Rod and Karen. I just wanted

894
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: to write in and tell people about three podcasts that

895
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: I've been paying for for about three years, so three

896
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 2: or so years now, One the pregame Balls Esports, and

897
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: the Nerd Off. If people are not on this shit

898
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: by now, I feel it is my duty to let

899
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: them know that they are missing out. Thank you for

900
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: allowing me to use your platform to plug three completely

901
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 2: unrelated Wink Wink NUDG Nudge shows. On a serious note,

902
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: for the listeners of the main show, I don't think

903
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 2: Rodder Karen said enough about how good their premium content is.

904
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: If you ask me years ago if I would pay

905
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 2: for a subscription to hear people talk for a couple

906
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: of hours on my phone machine, I would say that

907
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: you were crazy. I will also ask, how do you

908
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: expect me to listen to anything on this motorola razor.

909
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: Come on ravel?

910
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: That shows how good these shows are at are worth

911
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: every penny. I'm now going to go back to my

912
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: episode The Nerd Off with Rod, Karen Bacon, and Aaron Amil.

913
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: Thanks man, you yeah, I mean, I guess yeah. Let

914
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: me toot our own horn for a second. But for

915
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: those that don't know, like I mean, our premium stuff

916
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: is just as good as quality as our regular show,

917
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: if not better. We dedicate a lot of time to it,

918
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: and there's certain topics that we kind of moved off

919
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: of the main show and onto that those other shows

920
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: that each show is unique and has its own flavor.

921
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: Lip smacking good which we will be putting out an

922
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: episode soon is the food show. Me and Karen have

923
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: kind of worked on it to come up with another

924
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: with a format for it so that we can like

925
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: keep it fresh and fun. And we do have so

926
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 2: many food adventures we've gone on since the last episode

927
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 2: that we want to talk about, so we would definitely

928
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: get another one of those in the can we have

929
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 2: spoiled movie reviews, which you like, I said, you can

930
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: hear the free version on on iTunes and stuff now,

931
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: so there's no excuse not to hear what it sounds like.

932
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 2: But it's very just it's mostly just movie recaps and

933
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: we talk about trailers we saw. We get comments from

934
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: our audience, who lead people leave comments on each episode.

935
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: We respond to those and that's you know, that's very fun,

936
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: and it's kind of different because we are just spoiling

937
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: the movies right away and just talking about what we

938
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 2: liked and what we didn't like. And I think it's

939
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: kind of a unique format for most movie reviews because

940
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: most movie review shows do the thing where like they

941
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: either try to talk around spoilers, which I hate because

942
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: normally you end up spoiling it anyway, right, or you

943
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: do the thing where there's a section for people that

944
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: aren't spoiled in the section for period that are. And

945
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: as a listener podcast, I always find that annoying, Like

946
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: I'm listening for twenty minutes and then like, now let's

947
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 2: talk spoilers. I'm like, just fucking let's just spoil it, Like,

948
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: who are the people that are just listening to that

949
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: first twenty minutes, I need to hear the whole Angelo

950
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: ha ha ha.

951
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 4: Right.

952
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: If I cared that much, I wouldn't be listening to

953
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: a podcast titled review of this movie right then. We

954
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 2: also have Pregame and Boss D Sports, which is really

955
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: kind of like the same show, except Pregame is me

956
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: and Justin. Typically, every once in a while will have

957
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: a guest, but very rarely, but me and Justin will

958
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, our weeks, things that are going on,

959
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: whether it's social media, our personal lives. We'll talk about movies,

960
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: we'll talk about TV shows and stuff we find entertainment,

961
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: love and hip hop, lately Leaf green Lea, Yeah, he

962
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 2: talks about green Leaf. But it's kind of a looser,

963
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 2: just kind of like catching up show for the week.

964
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 2: It's very fun. And then we do balls D Sports,

965
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: which is our sports show. But it's I can't emphasize.

966
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 3: Enough, it's not the typical sports show, not.

967
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: Even not typical. There is not and I feel confidence

968
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: saying this, there is not another show that talks about

969
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: sports in the way that Balls D Sports talks about sports. Agreed,

970
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: I don't think I've listened to a lot of people shit.

971
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 2: I will put our shit up against everybody you know,

972
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: just like that, and that's behind the paywall obviously. But

973
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: our shit is fun in a way that it makes

974
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: fort silly, in a way that everyone can join it.

975
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: You don't need to know all your stats, you don't

976
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 2: need to know who's ONNT necessarily what teams and all

977
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: that shit. It's just a conversation about the gossipy stuff

978
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: and sports, about the funny storylines and about the storylines

979
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: that get dropped. And it's not always fun, Like we've

980
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 2: had some very serious episodes about you know, Derreck Rose

981
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: and reading the deposition of his sexual assault trial. We've

982
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: had serious episodes about you know, the cultural coaches, like

983
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 2: putting their hands on kids or talking to them like

984
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: and you never know where it's gonna take you. But

985
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: we've also talked about like, you know, people's issues with

986
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: their baby mamas and people getting divorced and who's securing

987
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: what bags and Tristan Thompson trying to secure that Kardashian

988
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: money and all kinds of stuff, And we keep it

989
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: lighting fun sometimes most of the time. But you know,

990
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: it's a unique show, and I know nobody else is

991
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: talking like that and then what was the other one?

992
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: There was one more the nerd Off and we talk

993
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 2: about every couple of weeks we get together. You guys

994
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: know Chris and movie trailer reviews, Aaron from the Black

995
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: Astronauts podcast. We've had other guests as well. This last

996
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: week Eric yesterday Chris couldn't make it, but Bacon from

997
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: the ad Space or add Space, depending on who you are,

998
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: from The Unreasonable Friday's Network was the guest on the show.

999
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 2: And we talk about a bunch of just nerd news

1000
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: and stuff that you guys see everywhere. It's things we

1001
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: used to kind of talk about on the regular show,

1002
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: but now we've just kind of cordinged them off and

1003
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 2: put them on to something where we can just talk

1004
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: in those formats about those specific topics. And I know

1005
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: that those opinions that you're hearing on there, they're not

1006
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: everybody's opinion there. I wait to talk about these things

1007
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 2: A lot of times. I don't talk about them on

1008
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: social media because I don't want to just give it away,

1009
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: you know. And so those are just some of the

1010
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: shows behind the paywall, and I think people will enjoy

1011
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 2: them if they if they take a time to check

1012
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: it out. So I know it sounds like a long ad,

1013
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: but I mean, our shit is dope, so you should

1014
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: check it out.

1015
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's ands upon hours.

1016
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 5: It's over a thousand shows or close to a thousand

1017
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 5: shows behind the paywall, and it's not even talking about

1018
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 5: the mid season reviews.

1019
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 3: And some of the other shows that we have behind

1020
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 3: the paywell.

1021
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 2: Right. And then the other thing I was gonna say

1022
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: too is tomorrow. So tomorrow we're going to Buffalo our wings.

1023
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 2: We won't be able to do a show show. But

1024
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna put out a

1025
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: Medium Talk. Oh that's the other show I forgot behind

1026
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: the paywall, another show that we do. I put one

1027
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: out recently with Kwan Mills. But it's an interview show

1028
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 2: called medium Talk where I interview people that just want

1029
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: people I find interesting or whatever and we talk about

1030
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: different things. And medium Talk I've interviewed Yulitsa, who is

1031
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: the same woman who does Healthy Roots do, so I've

1032
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: already interviewed her once. What I'm gonna do is put

1033
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: that out tomorrow, and you know, obviously put the ad

1034
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 2: copy in there and stuff so people can can can

1035
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: can check it out. But we're gonna put that show

1036
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 2: out tomorrow and you can hear the interviews and what

1037
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: they sound like. You can also, you know, hopefully go

1038
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: get you a healthy roots doll for that young person

1039
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 2: in your life that wants to get, you know, a

1040
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: doll that gives some positive affirmation for their hair and

1041
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: their you know, and and their and their body image

1042
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 2: and stuff.

1043
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes older people who never had a doll like

1044
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 5: that before.

1045
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 2: Yah. Also, like it's also think white people should buy

1046
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: those dolls, like not just on some like because I

1047
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: want to be super woke, but like, why the fuck

1048
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: can a white kid have a black doll? Like I

1049
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 2: never understood that, Like I get representation matters as well,

1050
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 2: but we've been playing with white people's dolls and ship

1051
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,240
Speaker 2: our whole fucking lives, and you know what I mean, Like,

1052
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: like I don't understand why it doesn't work the other

1053
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: way around to where it's like I can't get my

1054
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 2: daughter a black dog. Why the fuck can't you like it?

1055
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: What's offensive about that? You know? It's like black. It's

1056
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: like when white kids dress up as black panther for

1057
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: for Halloween. There's nothing offensive about that. They so so

1058
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: what it's afensive. A white kid got a black hero,

1059
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: the fuck. You know, as long as you don't put

1060
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 2: on no black face, we good, you know. So anyway,

1061
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: I hope that I hope that people do that, you know,

1062
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 2: and then watch the motherfuckers and make sure they're not

1063
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 2: in the playing slavery. You know, we'll find out what

1064
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: kind of parents you really are. You know, if your

1065
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: kid get a black doll the first thing they started

1066
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: doing is playing gi slaves and shit, then you know,

1067
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 2: you right? But yeah, man, so I hope that, you know,

1068
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: I hope they do buy them because we look, people

1069
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: always make it seem like representation matters only to the

1070
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: marginalized group. That's not true. Representation also matters to a

1071
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: bunch of people that are in the group with the

1072
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 2: most power and shit, because if they don't see it,

1073
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: they also don't believe it, right, you know. One of

1074
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: the reasons that boardrooms and offices don't reflect you know,

1075
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: black excellence and shit all the time and inclusiveness is

1076
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: also because white people grow up in this world where

1077
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: they don't see a lot of black and brown people

1078
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: and marginalized people in empower and positions of power, so

1079
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: they don't think it's possible either. So they're like, why

1080
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: the fuck would I promote a black dude or a

1081
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: black woman or a gay person or whatever, Like, why

1082
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: would I promote this person? I've never seen that, not

1083
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: on TV, not in the video game, not in the movie,

1084
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: not like all I like, all I've seen is black

1085
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 2: people are blank. You know, ex people are blank. And

1086
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: so I think it does matter, you know, So I

1087
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: hope people don't just make it seem like, well, she

1088
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: made this black doll and nobody only black people should

1089
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: own it. I mean, I'm cool with black people are

1090
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 2: being the only ones who buy it, but like I

1091
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: don't understand. I hope white people aren't looking at it,

1092
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: like can't get that, Like, why the fuck can't you?

1093
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were at an article, don't we say this

1094
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 5: year year before last where uh white mother said that

1095
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 5: her uh little girl got a black baby doll and

1096
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 5: the cast she was like questioning her and yeah baby

1097
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 5: and all that shit like that shit is real.

1098
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 3: Who gives they fuck? Like, who is it? Ah? Doctor

1099
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: mc steffan's the the little black little girl. It's a

1100
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: lot of white girls that love that little black girl, right.

1101
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 5: And like have on T shirts and you know when

1102
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 5: they do they tours and shit like that. They little

1103
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 5: love that little girl, and they pick up that shit

1104
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 5: about the c l Like someone in the chat said,

1105
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 5: the uh they bought their daughter, who's Lieutennix a.

1106
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: Uh uh a doll, a black doll, and her first

1107
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: thing was like, oh, oh my gosh, she's beautiful, And

1108
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, we we. You pick up the somebody

1109
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: is not attractive, You pick up the this I'm not

1110
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: supposed to do with this. This is taboo. You pick

1111
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: that up from older people, from your parents. And shit,

1112
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: if if nobody in your life is f you that,

1113
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 2: you just think it's a different way to be beautiful,

1114
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: that's it, you know. So anyway, Oh and also because

1115
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: they're not doing the show, I guess I'll talk about

1116
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: this Gina rodri Gaz thing now because I don't feel

1117
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: like waiting two days.

1118
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: Okay.

1119
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you saw this Gena rodrig

1120
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 2: Gaz shit. She apparently is problematic because a lot of

1121
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: people find her to be anti black. I don't know

1122
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: her whole history, so let me just start with that.

1123
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 2: I have looked up some things in the past, uh

1124
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: like forty eight hours or whatever. Since I've seen this

1125
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: shit on Twitter, and I do think you can view

1126
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 2: it in a problematic like. I don't necessarily know that

1127
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: it is problematic, but let's go ahead and and uh

1128
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: play an impromptu games since we got plenty of time.

1129
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: We're just fucking with those black people. So we just

1130
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 2: fucking with those blacks. We're just fucking with fucking with

1131
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: black people. That's right, guys, It's time to play the

1132
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: game we all hate to play. It's fucking with black

1133
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: people the game. We go all around the globe and

1134
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: we'll sign different points forts the zeal turn hundred animals

1135
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 2: are twenty five today's contestants for everybody really, just Gena Rodriguez,

1136
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: all right. Gina Rodriguez says black actresses get paid more

1137
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: than Asian and Latina stars, and social media users light

1138
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: her up. Actress Gena Rodriguez is in hot water with

1139
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: social media users again after she made a declaration about

1140
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 2: equal pay among women actresses of varying racist During the roundtable,

1141
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: the same one we saw with Ellen Pompeo, Gabrielle Union,

1142
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 2: Emma Roberts, she explained her fears with discussing the Hollywood

1143
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: pay gap. I guess so petrified in this space talking

1144
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 2: about equal pay, especially when you look at the intersectional

1145
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 2: aspect of it right where white women get paid more

1146
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: than Black women, Black women get paid more than Asian women,

1147
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: Asian women get paid more than Latino women. And it's

1148
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: like a very scary space to step into because I

1149
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: always feel like I fail when I I speak about it,

1150
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: because I can't help but feel already so gracious to

1151
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 2: do what I do, and I feel like, culturally, I

1152
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 2: feel like I was raised to just feel so appreciative

1153
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 2: of getting here. The remark left for bad taste in

1154
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: the marks mouths of many online who wasted no time

1155
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 2: voicing issues. So, first of all, Karen, what do you

1156
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: think about her remarks right there?

1157
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with it.

1158
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 5: And the biggest reason why I don't have a problem

1159
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 5: with it they I think we've even read studies that

1160
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 5: come out and say for every dollar white woman have,

1161
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 5: like they actually broke it down and they say, you know,

1162
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 5: white women earn this, Indigenous Americans earned this. So as

1163
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 5: you kind of go down the oppression scale, per se,

1164
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 5: people do.

1165
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: Get paid less. And that's a fact, and I think.

1166
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: That truth be told.

1167
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 5: A lot of people get into oppression olympics versus actually

1168
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 5: hearing what the person has to say. And in my opinion,

1169
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 5: I know that black people are sensitive anytime black people

1170
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 5: are called out for their privilege, because you could be

1171
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 5: black and black in the group and still have privilege.

1172
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 5: A lot of people think, just because I'm black, I'm

1173
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 5: the most oppressed person there is in the room, and

1174
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 5: that's not always true.

1175
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: You know, you have to kind of look outside of yourself, and.

1176
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 5: Instead of you being understanding and instead of you looking outside.

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00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: Of yourself, a lot of black people.

1178
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 5: Would turn into white people and start attacking and start

1179
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 5: accusing and won't listen and really not there for a conversation.

1180
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 5: It's almost like that how dare you type of attitude,

1181
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 5: And that's what a lot of that backlash at her

1182
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 5: was was, how dare you say that.

1183
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 3: Black people aren't marginalized?

1184
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 5: How dare you say these other women aren't marginalized and

1185
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 5: aren't getting paid enough? And that's not what she was

1186
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 5: saying at all, but that's how the walks and a

1187
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 5: lot of people took it because it was like, oh lord,

1188
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 5: you said black folks and black people get in their feelings,

1189
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 5: which I completely understand, but she's mogualized.

1190
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: Too, you know.

1191
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 5: And so it's one of those things where because particularly

1192
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 5: on social media, is the who's more impressed versus we

1193
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 5: all trying to get into this together, we all trying

1194
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 5: to make money together, we all trying to do this together.

1195
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 3: And a lot of times black people have.

1196
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 5: Black people go through a lot, but a lot of

1197
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 5: times Black people are very very very very loud.

1198
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 3: Compared to some of these other marginalized groups.

1199
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Speaker 5: And it's not that these groups aren't loud, they're heard

1200
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 5: less than we are and we ain't rially that herd.

1201
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 5: And that's a privilege, and Black people don't want to

1202
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 5: talk about that, you know, when it comes to certain things,

1203
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 5: because as we make strides as a moginalized groups, these

1204
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 5: other people make strides too. But Black people get so

1205
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 5: wrapped up in blackness and being black only in black black,

1206
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 5: black black black, they failed to realize there are other

1207
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 5: groups that are also benefiting from us going forward. The

1208
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 5: same way that black women look at white women like, hey,

1209
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 5: why won't y'all look back, other groups look at us, going, hey,

1210
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 5: why won't y'all look back? Y'all striding to look back

1211
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 5: at these other groups who are benefiting from you pushing forward,

1212
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 5: But I that truth be told. Not everybody, but it's

1213
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 5: a lot of black people, period. They just wanted to

1214
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 5: get treated like white folks, and they don't look at

1215
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 5: it beyond that point. They don't really look at their

1216
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,959
Speaker 5: fellow brothers and sisters that are in these other marginalized groups.

1217
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 5: They act like these people don't matter because they're not black,

1218
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 5: and they quote unquote don't directly at pack them, but

1219
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 5: it does. It directly attacks you because what about the

1220
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 5: black latin X they're black too, you know, like like

1221
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 5: people get caught up in their agendas and the things

1222
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 5: they want to do that they dismiss people and actually

1223
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 5: don't want to hear what they got to say.

1224
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, several things that interest me, and the things you

1225
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 2: said and the things that she said. But one of

1226
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 2: the things I found was a lot of the response

1227
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 2: was that they said she was the one racing Afro

1228
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: latin X people with her comments. But I didn't feel

1229
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: that way. You know, I felt like she would say

1230
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: that if you look at the latinis like pay scale,

1231
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 2: which I think she got from, not a specific Hollywood

1232
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: pay scale, like it wasn't a movie star payscale, which

1233
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 2: obviously we're talking in all of these racial categories, we're

1234
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 2: still talking about women who are probably in the highest

1235
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 2: one percent of pay earners when it comes to the

1236
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 2: industry they're in and what they do. So we're not

1237
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: talking about impoverished people for the most part, not that

1238
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 2: every actress is making a lot of money. There's a

1239
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: ton of people in Hollywood who are just barely getting by,

1240
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 2: But the women on that stage are all very successful

1241
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 2: people who are making a lot of money, and they're

1242
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: talking for their various marginalized groups in a way that

1243
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 2: is representative more than just them, right, So that was

1244
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: one part of it that I thought people said she

1245
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 2: was a racing folks and I don't find that what

1246
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: she said was a racer. I found like, well, if

1247
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: you add them in to the whole LATINIX demographic, that

1248
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: also would be a factor in them making less money

1249
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 2: than just this quote unquote African American people. So that's

1250
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: one thing. The other thing I thought that was interesting

1251
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: is that people were bringing up, well, she just has

1252
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: a history of saying problematic things, and I went, Okay,

1253
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 2: what did she say? Because you know, I hate going

1254
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: into some shit half cock and not knowing what the

1255
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: fuck they'd be talking about, and you find out you're

1256
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 2: defending the goddamn devil and shit. But one of the

1257
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: things that they people presented as evidence of her anti

1258
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 2: blackness was his interview where they were getting it was

1259
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 2: her and Y'ad Shahiti. You know, y'all are from Blackish,

1260
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 2: and they were being interviewed for small Foot and the

1261
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 2: blogger is Blockzilla. He was interviewing them and he said

1262
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 2: to y'all, you are just goals for so many young

1263
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: black women. And then Rodriguez interjected so many women women,

1264
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 2: and he said, yeah, for women too, but for black women.

1265
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 2: We need people on a whole other level. How does

1266
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 2: that feel for you to be so young and just

1267
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 2: like be like a role model for so many people?

1268
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 2: And Shahiri Shahdi answered by saying she appreciate the support

1269
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: for her being herself. It's amazing because I get to

1270
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 2: be a part of such an amazing and thoughtful and

1271
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 2: brilliant community she has. It's so easy to be constantly

1272
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 2: motivated and inspired. But a lot of people took issues

1273
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 2: with Rodriguez on Twitter, and this is the same thing

1274
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: to me as the other comment. It kind of feels

1275
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 2: like black people we do this thing where we want

1276
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 2: it sometimes and we don't want it sometimes. That morning,

1277
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: the same morning that Gina Rodriguez made her latest comments,

1278
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 2: I saw a tweet that was going pretty viral that

1279
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: was about Alex Wagner correcting someone who said that James

1280
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 2: Baldwin was one of our most brilliant African American minds

1281
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 2: or writers in history, and then Alex Wagner corrected him

1282
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 2: and said American writers or something like that, and people

1283
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 2: were applauding it, like, yes, that's what I'm talking about.

1284
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 2: You just trying to margin allies him to just black

1285
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: people and he's one of the best, just of all

1286
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Speaker 2: Americans or whatever, to which I'm like, well, why not

1287
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: all the world, why not all the galaxy? If we

1288
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: really got to be like that. But but one of

1289
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: the things that I found interesting is in that case,

1290
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 2: people were kind of coming at it from the opposite thing.

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01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: It's like, this blackness is limiting because you're saying he's

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01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 2: only this type of genre of a person, to which

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01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. James BAUMERMH. Found some level of solace

1294
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 2: in the idea of being defined by his blackness, or

1295
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 2: maybe he would have felt trapped. I don't know. He's

1296
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: not allied for us to ask anymore. But I don't

1297
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: know that he would have rejected it or seen it

1298
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: necessarily as a compliment, and vice versa with Yar Shahidi.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that she saw it as an insult

1300
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 2: or I love to hear her words or if it

1301
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: is insulting for someone to say you're a role model

1302
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 2: to just women period, Like it's not just like people

1303
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 2: should look at Ya Shahdi and see excellence no matter

1304
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 2: what their race is. It shouldn't just be only black

1305
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: women can be inspired by this person. But at the

1306
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 2: same time, there's nothing wrong with just black women being

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01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 2: inspired by that person. So my point is it's more

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01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 2: complicated than I think people are willing to give credit for.

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01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: And it sounds like one of those things where if

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01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 2: you don't like Geena Rodriguez, you're kind of already leaning

1311
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: towards like fuck. Whatever way she would have said it

1312
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: or not said it, it was gonna be like fuck her,

1313
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 2: you know, because I don't think she had the intent

1314
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: of trying to like like say that being black is

1315
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 2: bad for Yard Shahidi, But some people are going to

1316
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 2: take it that way no matter what, you know. So yeah,

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01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting, and I think, you know,

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01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: you have to bring that up. I think also I

1319
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 2: saw a video of her talking about it's like a

1320
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: two minute video about how important school is or something

1321
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: and education, and she was talking about how she was

1322
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 2: from Chicago and she was from a mostly Hispanic community

1323
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 2: and it was probably one of the worst schools in Chicago,

1324
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: and but education is a thing that saved her and

1325
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: it helped. You know, she knew that going out into

1326
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 2: the world she was up against her gender, she was

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01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: up against her race. And I saw someone try to

1328
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: take that and be like, oh see, she said she

1329
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 2: was up against her race, and I'm like, you know

1330
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 2: how she meant it. Get the fuck out of here.

1331
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 2: Like some of this is kind of like people willfully

1332
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 2: being like obtuse because we as black people know we're

1333
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 2: up against it when we walk out the house. It's

1334
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 2: not always a fucking asset, and it's not our fault

1335
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 2: that it's not an asset, but it is something that

1336
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 2: in many cases is a thing, a hurdle that doesn't

1337
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 2: need to be a hurdle, that's not our fault, and

1338
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 2: recognizing it doesn't make you a bad person to be like, yeah,

1339
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 2: every day when I walk into my fucking office, I

1340
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: have to overcome being black. I have to overcome being

1341
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 2: a woman because these motherfuckers are racist and sexist. It's

1342
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 2: not that's not necessarily meaning that you bought into thinking

1343
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 2: you're inferior. But the other thing she said was education

1344
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 2: was the way that she was able to, like, you know,

1345
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 2: like to overcome the can't and want. She was like

1346
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 2: a lot of kids buying the can't want. And I

1347
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, that sounds like the bootstrap Republican shit,

1348
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: you know, the you know, so, I think that complicated issue.

1349
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: Another thing, the complicated issue. I don't know if people

1350
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: would consider her white passion or not. I'm not one

1351
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 2: hundred percent versed on that shit, but I think skin

1352
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 2: color definitely plays a big issue in this shit because

1353
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: white lieutenics people still kind of bend in and blend

1354
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 2: in to a lot of white supremacy thinking like they

1355
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 2: just do you know, so this is not like I

1356
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 2: think people When I was talking about Twitter, people were

1357
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 2: already jumping in the conclusion that I was going to

1358
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 2: like defend her something, and I'm like, this is bigger

1359
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 2: than her. It's not really about her at this point,

1360
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 2: but a lot of white Latinics people kind of have

1361
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 2: these views of like, well, if you just work hard

1362
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 2: and you know, it's and really it's like we're all

1363
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: in this together. But it's like, I feel like, if

1364
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 2: we look at those pay gap numbers, you're gonna find

1365
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: that the LATINIX actors who are more white passing or

1366
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 2: accepted by white people will be the ones who are

1367
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 2: making more money than your average black actor actress. That

1368
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 2: being said, if we got to keep it one hundred

1369
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 2: and be fair, a lot of black actors who are

1370
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 2: more whiteish white passing light skin are also making more

1371
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 2: money than the average So that's not necessarily a LATINX

1372
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 2: thing or black thing. That's just more of a white

1373
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: people white thing, you know. So there's all these moving

1374
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 2: variables and parts to this discussion that I feel like

1375
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 2: Twitter is just a bad place to try to have it,

1376
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 2: you know, and especially once the wave starts of you

1377
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 2: gotta shit on this woman because we shitting on her,

1378
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 2: it it makes it not really a place you can

1379
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 2: conduce it to conversation. The other thing, so now let's

1380
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: talk about the hypocrisy coming from the other side, because

1381
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 2: I think I don't know this woman enough to be

1382
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 2: like to pass a verdict, But if I have to speculate,

1383
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 2: she just feels to me like your typical white passing

1384
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 2: Latina type of person that has some issues within herself

1385
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: about how like she said, she feels so grateful to

1386
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: be there and probably you know, feels that she deserves

1387
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 2: and it's been talented and made the right choices that

1388
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 2: other people didn't make and they tell yeah, and she

1389
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 2: carries that with her, and there's some respectability in her shit,

1390
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 2: you know. And I think because she's a woman of color,

1391
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: there's going to be some some part some subjects that

1392
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 2: she speaks on that you know, other women of color

1393
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 2: speak on. It's going to be different results because of

1394
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 2: how she's been received and because of what she believes

1395
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 2: about herself. But let's go back to the hypocracy. So

1396
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 2: I saw people doing some things that I thought were

1397
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: kind of fucked up towards her that I don't know

1398
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 2: if they didn't think about these things or if they

1399
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 2: thought about them and just didn't realize how they sounded.

1400
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 2: Because you brought up something earlier when you said that

1401
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 2: people kind of sound like they just want to be

1402
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 2: a white people of this. White women. Two years ago,

1403
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 2: when black women black actresses were really being vocal about

1404
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 2: the pay inequality, there were a lot of white women going, well,

1405
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 2: isn't white men the real enemy? Why are you mad

1406
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 2: at me? Sis? Look, I make eighty six cent on

1407
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 2: the dollar. This dude, you make seventy five cent on

1408
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 2: the dollar. This white dude, I'm not your enemy, so

1409
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 2: stop bothering me. And everybody talks about that, but they

1410
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 2: don't like to look at that number further down the

1411
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 2: scale because the black woman is not the end of it.

1412
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 2: So there's people that make less than black women that

1413
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 2: are also women, And we like to use these arguments

1414
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 2: that are very spec secific women for black women, but

1415
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,879
Speaker 2: not for everybody else. So if we're looking at the argument,

1416
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 2: the argument has been in what I've seen anyway online

1417
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 2: is a lot of what we have to start with

1418
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 2: the people that's doing the getting the least and work

1419
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: our way up. We can't do trickle down, except in

1420
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 2: this case when someone brings up, well, latinnix women are

1421
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 2: making even less, then it's like trickle down. No, stop,

1422
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: what you're looking at me for? Well, look at these

1423
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 2: white women look at these white men. That's the real problem.

1424
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 2: Well that's what everybody's saying, you know, Like it's not

1425
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 2: necessarily that black people are the enemy. And I don't

1426
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 2: find anything she said to be like and black people

1427
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: are doing this to us. I found what she said

1428
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 2: to be accurate to what I've seen now. Like I said,

1429
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 2: these stats don't really come from Hollywood, so we don't

1430
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 2: know that the Hollywood reflects the earnings exactly the same

1431
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 2: as it reflects in the regular market of who makes

1432
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 2: how much money? Right, But nobody cared about that shit

1433
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 2: when it was black women saying it. Come, we use

1434
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 2: the same seventy six cent on the dollar, eighty five

1435
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 2: cent on the dollar, we use the same thing. What

1436
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: I think a lot of black women online we're definitely feeling,

1437
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: was like what we have brought up your issues in

1438
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 2: the past, so there should be some level of deference

1439
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: to us. And you're a white pass in Latina, so

1440
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: you don't really get a chance. You don't get to

1441
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 2: make this point. But I don't know if the point

1442
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: is the point. If the numbers are the numbers, I

1443
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 2: don't understand why it matters who says it. It's not

1444
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: like she says it, and then it goes and black

1445
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: women need to give up their money so we can

1446
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 2: get paid or whatever. They're like, we all need to

1447
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 2: be allies to this. I also thought the whole part

1448
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 2: about her saying she feels like she fails at making

1449
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,959
Speaker 2: these points very valid. We definitely live in a society

1450
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 2: right now where if you don't make the argument one

1451
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 2: hundred percent on point every time, people are willing to

1452
01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 2: just completely go in as if you're like the devil and.

1453
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 5: It's dismans everything you say, eat it to tear it apart.

1454
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 5: And so that's why for a lot of people on

1455
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 5: certain shit they just don't talk about on social media,

1456
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 5: they do publications that write their words out and shit

1457
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 5: like that, so that you're forced to fucking read it

1458
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 5: outside of Twitter and Facebook and all these other publications,

1459
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 5: which is not designed for nuance, it's not designed for debate,

1460
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 5: it's not designed to have an intelligent conversation, is not

1461
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 5: really designed.

1462
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 3: For a truly back and forth thing.

1463
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 5: It's like it's for some people, everything automatically comes from

1464
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 5: a negative space. I think for some people, anytime anybody

1465
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 5: says something outside of that person themselves, it ain't shit.

1466
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 5: And they got to let you know you ain't shit.

1467
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 5: They got to let you know your comments ain't shit.

1468
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,560
Speaker 5: They will read it come purposely take it out of context,

1469
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 5: take you out of context, you know, purposely say that

1470
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 5: everything that you ever did ain't shit, and you ain't shit,

1471
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 5: and you know so. And then you know, people wonder

1472
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 5: why people don't talk about shit, don't touch certain topics,

1473
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 5: and this is why.

1474
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

1475
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 5: But the thing is, and I will continue to say,

1476
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 5: this is when people do the things that these wolks request,

1477
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 5: You're still angry. But then to an extent, what the

1478
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 5: fuck do you want?

1479
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: Like did if she would have got up there and

1480
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 2: said it basically lied and said, listen, obviously black women

1481
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 2: have it the hardest in Hollywood. Nobody else is suffering

1482
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,879
Speaker 2: or struggling like them. It doesn't matter that the numbers

1483
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 2: that they that people use just two years ago about

1484
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 2: pay inequalities show different. We are is y'all? Are y'all

1485
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: have it the hardest? People would have been clapping and

1486
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 2: been like, yes, but but it at least a lot

1487
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 2: of the people that were in her mentions would have

1488
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: been clapping and saying yes, But it would have been

1489
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 2: a lie, Like I don't require that you lie to

1490
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 2: me in order for you to make your point. We

1491
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 2: don't have to, you know, not, I can't. I can't

1492
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 2: dean her like whatever her necessarily her intention is all

1493
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 2: the way through, Like I don't know her like that,

1494
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 2: and I don't know her work like that, and she

1495
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 2: could be like some level of some guy of coon

1496
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 2: ass motherfucker that I don't just don't know about because

1497
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 2: I'm not into her like that. But the comments people

1498
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 2: were seasoned on these weren't it right, you know, like

1499
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 2: they like the numbers. You can't use these numbers only

1500
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: when they benefit you, Like the numbers are still the numbers.

1501
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 2: I remember looking at that fucking chart and it being like,

1502
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 2: oh man, black women have it bad. Shit like Team

1503
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 2: the women have it worse. Fuck Asian women got it worse,

1504
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 2: Like Indigenous women have it even worse, you know, like, yeah,

1505
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 2: it's fucked up. I don't like And Hollywood is not

1506
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 2: necessarily representative of the big swath of America that these

1507
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 2: numbers represent. So maybe if we did a study specifically Hollywood,

1508
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: we would arrive at some different conclusions. And the only

1509
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 2: way that this is gonna change, it seems, or the

1510
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 2: only tactics I've seen that work. Are these things like

1511
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 2: these inclusion writers and shit that they put in these

1512
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 2: movies where they make everybody sit down talk about their

1513
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 2: salaries and chop it up to be like this is

1514
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 2: what everybody's getting paid. Okay, so take it to leave it.

1515
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 2: But we're trying to pay everybody on a scale that

1516
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 2: respects everybody's dollars and shit, and people are tired of

1517
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 2: these movies, the news coming out after the movies are

1518
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 2: done being like, did you know this woman only got

1519
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 2: paid blank amount of money? And this man got paid

1520
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 2: this amount of money. So there are things being done,

1521
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: but it does require some level of unity. I just

1522
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 2: don't know that people are ready to have open, honest

1523
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,480
Speaker 2: conversations about these things. These are the quote unquote conversations

1524
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,759
Speaker 2: people claim they want to have, but nobody really seems

1525
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 2: like they don't want to come at it with an agenda,

1526
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,600
Speaker 2: like I said, and maybe it's because I'm out of

1527
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 2: the loop, but to me, I was like, everybody kind

1528
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 2: of went hard about this and a lot of these

1529
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 2: people were wrong.

1530
01:16:55,960 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I still will stand by my comment as

1531
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 5: it's for a lot of people that's suppression. The Olympics

1532
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,560
Speaker 5: when it comes to anybody that says anything outside of

1533
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 5: your group, and a lot of niggas turning the white

1534
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 5: women like they turning.

1535
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 3: The white folks.

1536
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 5: It was like, I'm an ally, I helped you, I

1537
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 5: did it for you, okay, dog, But y'all get mad

1538
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 5: when white folks are at the y'all like you're using

1539
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 5: the same language, and that's my thing, the same language

1540
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 5: and the same techniques that white folks use on niggas.

1541
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,799
Speaker 5: Niggas turn around and use that on other marginalized groups,

1542
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 5: like almost offended, like how dare you talk about us

1543
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 5: and our flaws and how we're not doing enough?

1544
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 3: We're oppressed too.

1545
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 5: That's the same shit white white women and particularly tell us.

1546
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 2: Right one of the things, one of the so let's

1547
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 2: look at some of the things people said to her

1548
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 2: or about her, because I thought these were interesting. Habitual

1549
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 2: hater Gina Rodriguez says black actresses are paid more than

1550
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: Asians and Latinas. She always coming with sideways comments about

1551
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 2: black people, but those numbers that I bet you I

1552
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 2: would I'm not as petty as I could be, but

1553
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 2: I would be willing to bet money if we could

1554
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 2: find the date that Yola Davis talked about this shit

1555
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 2: two years ago. I guarantee these same Twitter account people

1556
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 2: were taking screenshots and using that graph that shows that

1557
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 2: Latina and Asian women make less than them in America,

1558
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 2: and it wasn't about Hollywood. But I guarantee you they

1559
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 2: didn't have a problem with the numbers that day well,

1560
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 2: because the point was white men and white women ahead

1561
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 2: of us. What the fuck? But okay, black people, fuck her,

1562
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 2: keep out, keep our fucking name out of your mouth, bitch.

1563
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 2: This the same hole that essentially said Christopher Columbus was

1564
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 2: a hero. I don't know the Christopher Clumber's story. Obviously

1565
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 2: that sounds fucked up, but also you know there's a

1566
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 2: lot of fuck you, bitch and shit. And then if

1567
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: you said, if you at her with that, you still

1568
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 2: expect her to reply back like I made a mistake.

1569
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, because I'm not a human being. You

1570
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 2: can just call me out my name and I'll be fine.

1571
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 5: People expect people to be reasonable, and we've talked about this.

1572
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 3: Words mean things. Where's mean things?

1573
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 5: And also I tweet social media like an interacting in

1574
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 5: real life on a lot of people separate that shit

1575
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 5: and they separate the humanity out of it. And that's

1576
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 5: why they can say all types of crazy shit and

1577
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 5: don't think twice about it, because they don't think nobody

1578
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,520
Speaker 5: else is a human being outside of themselves.

1579
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 3: Nobody else is a human being outside of me.

1580
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 5: So I can at you and talk crazy to you,

1581
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 5: and treat you any type of way and just do

1582
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 5: all types of foul shitting and and and ship to

1583
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 5: you block me because you fucking don't matter. But the

1584
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 5: first time you breathe hard my way, I'm falling out

1585
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 5: and flopping on the timeline like I've been fucking.

1586
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 2: Shot another thing. Uh child. I saw the full video

1587
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 2: with Gabriel Junion, Ellen Pompeo, Emma Robertson GENEORGI guys genus

1588
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 2: disdain for black people making it, or should I say

1589
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 2: rising above her is palatable. She really blatantly lied about

1590
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 2: black actresses may making more than Latina actresses. I would

1591
01:19:58,040 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 2: like and this is what I asked on Twitter, do

1592
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:01,719
Speaker 2: y'all I had the numbers to prove she lined, because

1593
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 2: I would like to see them, because it sounded like

1594
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 2: she was using the same numbers that people used to

1595
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 2: say black women aren't making enough money. Last year. So

1596
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 2: I would just like to see the numbers because it

1597
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 2: sounded like they were just census numbers unless some I mean,

1598
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 2: and if there's numbers out there, Like I was on

1599
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 2: my Facebook page, I asked this question. Somebody was like,

1600
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 2: I'll do some researcher singing the numbers. Uh, they haven't

1601
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 2: sent them yet, but I want to see it because maybe,

1602
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 2: you know, she could be full of shit and and

1603
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 2: I could be like, oh, okay, cool, she looked at

1604
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 2: those numbers, but it doesn't apply to Hollywood. So then

1605
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 2: someone else says, Sophia Viguerre is literally the highest paid

1606
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 2: TV actress. This whole wants to be oppressed so bad

1607
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. That actually is like saying Oprah is the

1608
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 2: highest paid black woman, So what are all these other

1609
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 2: black women complaining about they not getting paid? Like the

1610
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 2: logic doesn't quite curdle with some of these points people

1611
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 2: are making language. Yeah, it's and it's it's honestly, the

1612
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,759
Speaker 2: Obama made it. So what are you niggas mad about?

1613
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 2: Type of rites thing? It's like, well, y'all are the

1614
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 2: ones saying that these marginalized identities don't get compensated. You

1615
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 2: can't pick one person and be like they on this list,

1616
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 2: so they're therefore the end. You know, she needs to

1617
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 2: realize she doesn't need shit to shit on Black women

1618
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 2: to big up latinas I maybe I'm trippering. I don't

1619
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 2: see her comments as shitting on black women, Like I'm

1620
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 2: gonna go back and read these comments again. Can y'all

1621
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 2: tell me? I get so petrified in the space talking

1622
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 2: about equal pay, especially when you look at the intersectional

1623
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 2: aspect of it, right, where white women get paid more

1624
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 2: than Black women, Black women get paid more than Asian women,

1625
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 2: Asian women get paid more than Latino women. And it's

1626
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 2: like a very scary space to step into because I

1627
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 2: always feel like I fail when I speak about it,

1628
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 2: because I can't help but feel already so gracious to

1629
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 2: do what I do, and I feel like culturally, I

1630
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 2: feel like I was raised to just feel so appreciative

1631
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 2: of getting here. Please tell me where specifically that was

1632
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 2: a shot at black women.

1633
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 5: And my thing with with that, Like you said, it's

1634
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 5: that agenda stuff people already come and it's some Black

1635
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 5: women they have problems with LATINX women, like they they

1636
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 5: see them as competition, you know, they see them as

1637
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 5: still in you know.

1638
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 3: Our men like like you like like like.

1639
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,520
Speaker 5: It's all types of layers to a lot of the attacks,

1640
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 5: and sometimes it's not as clean and cut and dry

1641
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 5: as people make it because reading her comments and the

1642
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 5: way people responding and some of the things that people

1643
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 5: can pick bringing up are irrelevant to what she said.

1644
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 2: So let's also address how Gena Rodriguez lied about Latina

1645
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 2: actresses being paid less than black actresses when evidence shows

1646
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 2: the top twenty paid actress of all time has three

1647
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 2: Latinas and not a single Black actress. How does she

1648
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 2: get away with this lie? Is that? Like you see

1649
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, is that proof? Is that? The

1650
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 2: only proof we need is that does that? So that

1651
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 2: goes for all Latinic actresses they're getting paid more than

1652
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 2: black actresses. Like, it's just where's the stats to back

1653
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,919
Speaker 2: that up? Because a list is not that's not necessarily

1654
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,919
Speaker 2: the same thing as a statistical analysis of the agetry.

1655
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 2: That's not to say those people are necessarily wrong. I

1656
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: would like to see more than that as evidence. That

1657
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 2: being said, I did not find her comments to be

1658
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 2: so fucking offensive. I thought the y'all shit, you could

1659
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 2: look at that in an offensive way. But I also think, like,

1660
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: much like the James Baldwin thing, you could also look

1661
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 2: at it as a way of being like, she's an

1662
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 2: excellent woman. Don't just put her in one category. She

1663
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 2: should be looked at by everybody as excellence.

1664
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 5: You know.

1665
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 2: Na, I'm not one of those people that gets into

1666
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 2: that sentiment. I'm more of a you know, y'all have

1667
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 2: heard our podcast. If our podcast is considered one of

1668
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 2: the best black podcasts, it doesn't bother me, you know. Now.

1669
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 2: Do I think it's one of the best podcasts period? Yes? Absolutely,

1670
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 2: But I also have no problem if you think you

1671
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 2: can put us in a box of just black that's cool.

1672
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 2: I love that box, you know. And maybe that's how

1673
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 2: y'all feels too, I don't know. But the point being,

1674
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 2: I've seen black people who are not some coon ass

1675
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 2: niggas be like, nah, give us our motherfucking praises in

1676
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 2: a universal way that we deserve because our shit goes

1677
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 2: out to everybody in the same podcast apps that catch

1678
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 2: Adam Carolla catch my shit too. Come So if my

1679
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 2: shit is dope, don't just say you know, I know

1680
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 2: black people that get offended when it's like they put

1681
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 2: the black podcast on the Front of Black History monfth

1682
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 2: for iTunes. It's like, well, how come we just not

1683
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 2: on the front all the time? You see what I'm saying,

1684
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 2: So there's more than one way to look at it.

1685
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,759
Speaker 2: And I feel like, in a zeal to like get

1686
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 2: Gina Rodriguez, a lot of people kind of sounded very

1687
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 2: hypocritical or like they reverse their logic on a lot

1688
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 2: of things that they claim to feel. And I wonder

1689
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 2: why they couldn't see that, you know, because I'm not

1690
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 2: necessarily interested in defending this woman. I don't know this woman,

1691
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 2: but I am interested in the logical leap of them

1692
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 2: going against everything you said you believe, especially when you

1693
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 2: said you believed in those numbers. And this is why

1694
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,600
Speaker 2: I feel so consistently disillusioned with folks, cause it's like,

1695
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 2: where is your consistency? You know what I mean? Like,

1696
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 2: where is your Like is it just I'm woke for

1697
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 2: just my shit? And then it's like and after that,

1698
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 2: fuck everybody you know? Is it? I'm cool with these

1699
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 2: numbers if they look a certain way for me, but

1700
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop reading after it gets past me because

1701
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:27,440
Speaker 2: that might involve me advocating for some people that aren't myself.

1702
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, I don't know. But anyway,

1703
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 2: zero te hundred care. Oh, just based off of what

1704
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 2: she said, I give it a zero.

1705
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 3: Unless something else comes up or something like that, I

1706
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 3: give it a zero.

1707
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm not that. Yeah, I was college. I was

1708
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: really fucked with. But more about just the whole conversation.

1709
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't really care about her comments.

1710
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 2: I find her comments to be people were inflaming them

1711
01:25:56,400 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 2: in a way that weren't really required, and people were

1712
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 2: trying to act as if there was no fucking way

1713
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 2: to see the other side of this thing. And I

1714
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 2: found that to be kind of really telling because I

1715
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 2: am as black as they fucking come. And even I

1716
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 2: know DRIs Elba is a great example. Someone told Idris

1717
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 2: Elba to his face, like, well, you're one of a

1718
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 2: great you know, black actor, and he corrected him like,

1719
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 2: no actor. And so to me, that lines up with

1720
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 2: the Yard Shahiti thing where it's like some black people go, nah,

1721
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 2: Doug fucking just recognizing the same way you recognize everybody else. Uh,

1722
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 2: And some black people are like no, no, no, no, no,

1723
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 2: call me black. I'm good with that, Like I'm a

1724
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 2: black actor, call me a black therri. I don't give

1725
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 2: a fuck. This is me. This is what I want

1726
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 2: to lean into. So I think, you know, there are

1727
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 2: people that were very invested in being like it can

1728
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 2: only be one way. And I thought that was kind

1729
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 2: of interesting and telling because I think I can understand

1730
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 2: people being upset as much as I can understand people

1731
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: not being upset. But I don't know her like that,

1732
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 2: all right, And that's true.

1733
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 3: It depends on how you view It's a question in there.

1734
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just put it on screen. That's how you know.

1735
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 2: Ignorant question. What counts as a white pass on the tenants?

1736
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 2: Is there a color chart like Peter Griffin family. God mean,

1737
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 2: well you're joking, but kind of you know, Uh, it's

1738
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 2: exactly what it sounds like. Like if your skin is

1739
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 2: light enough that people associate you with having certain white

1740
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 2: privileges and your features color is privilege and shit like that,

1741
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 2: then yeah, people say you're a white passing, especially if

1742
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 2: you look like you're white, like you straight like, because

1743
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 2: there's some Latinis people that unless they tell you they're

1744
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 2: not white, you just think they're a white person. George

1745
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: Zimmerman was one of those white people, you know, and

1746
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 2: there's latinis that identify as white. I mean, there's a

1747
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it's on the census, you know, like that.

1748
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:58,759
Speaker 2: It's a total phenomenon. Yes, someone brought up Charlie Sheen,

1749
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: like Charlie Sheen's brother. There's a Millio Estevez, you know

1750
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 2: what I mean, like Louis c. K Mexican. You know,

1751
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 2: so white past. There's all kinds of white pass on lieutenants,

1752
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 2: and you know, a lot of their a lot of

1753
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 2: their politics and stuff reflect that of whiteness they do.

1754
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 2: They are more Republican, they are more conservative. So a

1755
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 2: lot of times you end up with that. And then

1756
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 2: unfortunately this is because we're talking Hollywood. A lot of

1757
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 2: the people who are successful in Hollywood have to go

1758
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 2: through the lens of white supremacy to be successful, which

1759
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 2: is one of the reasons I was kind of like

1760
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 2: for people going like, well, she is this white pass

1761
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 2: and blah blah, like she is. That's absolutely true. It

1762
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 2: probably affects a lot of the things she believes. But

1763
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 2: at the same time, a lot of the people that

1764
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 2: we stand for, that we call our woke folks, are

1765
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 2: only up there in Hollywood because they look white enough

1766
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 2: to white people to be considered utiful and shit, and

1767
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 2: I mean the woke ones. A man with Stanberg is

1768
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 2: she woke, she woke, but white people have a certain

1769
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 2: comfort with her skin tone and the way she looks. Y'all, Shahiti,

1770
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 2: she woke, same thing, you know. And this is not

1771
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 2: to demean the meness. It's kind of reminds what happened

1772
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 2: with black people on this topic. Reminded me a lot

1773
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 2: of what happens with light skinned people when people bring

1774
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 2: up colorism and they get mad at you, like, I'm

1775
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 2: a black person too. You trying to say I'm not black.

1776
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 2: It's like, no, I'm saying there's a certain level of

1777
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 2: visibility attached to you as a black person who looks

1778
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 2: a certain way that is not attached to other people.

1779
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 2: For the good and the bad that it is, there's

1780
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 2: a certain visibility because of the racial spectrum of America,

1781
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 2: the history of America that does put black people in

1782
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 2: this weird visible spotlight that outsizes our thirteen percent of

1783
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:57,799
Speaker 2: the population, specifically because of how this country has attacked

1784
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 2: us so much. So there's a there's a thing where

1785
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 2: black blackness is cool. Blackness is viral, blackness is over

1786
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 2: representative in some situations and still not enough, you know,

1787
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 2: because this country can never give us enough. So there's

1788
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 2: all this type of stuff with us where if you

1789
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 2: point that out and you're in the other parts of

1790
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 2: you know, marginalized community. So like if an Asian person

1791
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 2: points out, like, man, this cause that Black people support

1792
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 2: it got way more traction than this cause that Asian

1793
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 2: people support it, Like why why is that? Why can't

1794
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 2: we get the same visibility? Well, you haven't been through

1795
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 2: the same shit, to be honest, So you don't get

1796
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 2: the same visibility if you haven't put it in quote

1797
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,640
Speaker 2: unquote put in on the struggle like that. And in

1798
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 2: a lot of cases, your communities have anti blackness themselves,

1799
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 2: which don't allow you to align with us like that,

1800
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 2: nobody's stopping you from marching with us. Not nobody's disinviting

1801
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 2: you from from supporting our causes. But you have something

1802
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 2: with that because because what do they call it, model

1803
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 2: minority status is been granted to you in some cases,

1804
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 2: and y'all y'all grab for that ring, and y'all leave

1805
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 2: people behind in a way, y'all leave us behind, you know.

1806
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of complicated, moving pieces to all

1807
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 2: this shit, is my point. I thought what she said

1808
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 2: was very innocuous. I thought the reaction was very telling,

1809
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 2: the idea that she needs to be shouted down and

1810
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 2: shut down. And you know, read out those comments where

1811
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 2: she's called out of her name and shit like that.

1812
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 2: I thought that was that was a lot. And then

1813
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 2: if she ever broaches the topic again, people are just

1814
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,839
Speaker 2: gonna continue to pile on I. And what will happened

1815
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 2: is either she'll stop talking about this shit and then

1816
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 2: people will go, I told you she wasn't real, or

1817
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 2: she keeps talking and people keep taking every comment as

1818
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,839
Speaker 2: slander to black people. So it's gonna lose lose situation.

1819
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 3: That's why on some topics, like I said, spell don't

1820
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:48,919
Speaker 3: need to talk about.

1821
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 2: It, right, So, yeah, you know, and well June brought

1822
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 2: up we supported crazy rich Asians, some of us did.

1823
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 2: I know a lot of black people that were very

1824
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 2: offended by why can't I remember her name?

1825
01:31:59,320 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 1: Now?

1826
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 2: The one black girl that they would call, the one

1827
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 2: Asian woman they were saying had a black scent? Why

1828
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 2: can't I talking about yes? Like so even like we're aquafina, Yeah,

1829
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 2: we're not one hundred percent on board with all the

1830
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 2: ship they do with vice versa, like you know, and

1831
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 2: I still remember feeling like this is a little hypocritical

1832
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 2: because we definitely borrow from their culture and our shit

1833
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 2: all the time. We got a whole ass Wu Tang clan,

1834
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 2: you know, and we don't expect them to be fucking offended.

1835
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 2: Like if they say something, we look at them like

1836
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 2: they're crazy, like what the fuck what you mean? We

1837
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 2: can't do kung fu and fucking call our shit Woo

1838
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 2: Tang clan and oh I'm the old dirty bastard and

1839
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 2: this is uh, you know, like we get mad, you know,

1840
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 2: from the slums of Chalinn. None of them niggas from

1841
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 2: fucking Challenn, you know. So it's but but we pick

1842
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 2: and choose our shit, and I think it bothers me

1843
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 2: to see the hypocrisy. But that's kind of all me

1844
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,719
Speaker 2: for even giving a fuck. So all right, we would

1845
01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 2: talk to you guys, y'all read okay, Yeah, that's why

1846
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 2: we did this. All right, guys, we'll talk to you.

1847
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 2: Send your emails in for your Christmas cards or well

1848
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 2: holiday cars. Really, I don't say no Christmas on our ship,

1849
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 2: uh sin uh yeah sin yeah. Starbucks people mad, but yeah,

1850
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 2: send uh your your your addresses and uh the uh

1851
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 2: the Black Aulla tips at gmail dot com. Like I said,

1852
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 2: tomorrow's episode will basically be a medium talk uh but

1853
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 2: hopefully that helps our girl, your lissen sell some some

1854
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:35,440
Speaker 2: more dolls.

1855
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, sell them dolls.

1856
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,680
Speaker 2: And thank y'all for the chat room, for tuning in

1857
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 2: live hanging out with us. All right, We'll talk to

1858
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 2: y'all later. Until then, I love you, tr