1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that plugs you 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: into NRG Stadium. I Mark Vandermer here in the Hunday 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Texans Radio studio. The Cookoff starts tonight. I can smell it. 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: It's so good. I'm gonna be out there soon enough 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: to check out some of the samplings and joining us 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: tonight on a Thursday as always John McLean, the general 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,159 Speaker 1: from the Houston Chronicle, and John, I feel like with 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: the Cookoff, maybe not everybody goes every single year, but 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: it's such a great Houston tradition. I always say, if 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: you have people visiting from out of town, this is 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: a great weekend to have them in to go to 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: the Cookoff and check it out. Your thoughts on that 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: before we get officially started. I used to go, and 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: I'm what I like to go to the most too, 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: is just the carnival, the fair. Carol and I come 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: during the day when it's not as crowded and walk 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: around and I used to love to ride the rides. 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: The faster, the scarier. I was off for it, but 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: she would throw up so she had motion sickness. So 20 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 1: we don't do it, so we just check it out. 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: I always think it's interesting see if there's anything new, 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: and what kind of foods they have, and and of 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: course I'm always going to pig out on the food 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: because it's great. And when I've been to the Rodeo, 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: I went a long time and then she made me 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: go when Barry Manilow was here a couple of times, 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: and what's wrong with Barry. I'm not a big Barry 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: Mandelow fan because I've had to see him about ten 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: times because Carol loves him. We've seen him here, we 30 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: seen him at the rodeo. He's seeing Barry Mandelow at 31 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: the Rodeo. I always thought he kind of seemed out 32 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: of place. And saw him one time at Mitchell Pavilion 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: in August and he was complaining about the heat, and 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to say, well, you idiot, it's Houston. What 35 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,919 Speaker 1: do you think it is you're outdoors. He was throwing 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,279 Speaker 1: his sweaty scarves in the audience and all the women 37 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: were trying to kill each other to get him. Carol 38 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: and I went with Wendy Granado and we were like 39 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: on a second can row and they were fighting over 40 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: his sweaty scarves. And then I've seen him in Vegas 41 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: and and to me, I'm I'm kind of old fashioned. 42 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: I remember when Maroon five was here. I was in 43 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: I was invited to sit in a suite and they 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: were playing. And this was back boy. They got in 45 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: Maroon five right when they just got popular. Because the 46 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: guys in a suite didn't know who they were. And 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: I said, you know, moves like Jagger just came out. Yeah, 48 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: and you know who wouldn't want to, you know, shake 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: it a little bit to that song, and so be 50 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: people didn't know. Now they played the Super Bowl, and 51 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: I think it's always interesting to see the people who 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: were here the first time and come back. And I 53 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: was George Straight, Uh, who's retired more than going out 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: of business jewelry store sales. George's back. First time I 55 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: saw him was in eighty four, and my goodness, the 56 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: women were swooning over George Straight. And of course he's 57 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: to me, George strait is country music. And every time 58 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: he's here and sells out. I love looking at the 59 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: attendance to see who draws the most fans. And I'm 60 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: always fascinated how many people the rodeo can get, and 61 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: the rodeo does so many good things. And I remember 62 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: back when Bud Adams wanted the astronome expanded, and everybody 63 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: said Bud was the bad guy because the oilers were 64 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: going to benefit. And I'm like, wholl The Rodeo benefits too, 65 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: and they give a light way a lot of money 66 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: for scholarships and other good causes, as did the oilers. 67 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: But it was always a Bud out there on an 68 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: island by himself. And when they added those seventy five 69 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: hundred seats, not only did it help the Oilers, it 70 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: helped the rodeo. Right now, I figured up attendants one time, 71 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: the Rodeo during this two week period outdraws the outdraws. 72 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: They outdrew the Oilers. Now, with the Texans selling seventy 73 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: one thousand seats of game, might have to go back 74 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: and refigure accounting preseason. But both of them sell a 75 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: lot of tickets here. And as I was just walking by, 76 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated at the floor when they get dirt 77 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: down there and they put up all the rodeo stuff, 78 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: and they got to get the right cont of dirt 79 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: because there's Monster truck. It's not the same dirt for 80 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: the rodeo. They need different dirty and what goes into 81 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: all that getting it set up. I'll tell you a 82 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: great story. Let's see, in two thousand and sixteen, I 83 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: was leaving going out through the front after the broadcost 84 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: Wilder news conference. Everybody was so excited about the Brockster 85 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: and his parents traveled around because they were executives on 86 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: the carnival and had been for quite a while. Remember that, 87 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: I happened to be walking out the front and the 88 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: three of them went over next to the entrance to 89 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: the carnival, and and and there was picture taken with them. 90 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: And I thought, Man, what must it be like to 91 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: have a contract like this where you're guaranteed thirty I 92 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: think thirty seven million dollars. That'll buy a lot of rides. 93 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: I thought. At the time, boy, everybody was so pumped, 94 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: and his parents were so happy for him, and he 95 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: got a lot of money. People were john I was excited. 96 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: But I got the news that Oswalder was coming here, 97 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: I was excited. I think there was good reason to 98 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: be excited at the time. Obviously it did not work 99 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: out as a plan. Look, it did for him. It's 100 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: kind of like Millie Vanilli. Somebody bought all those albums right, 101 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: they sold a ton of records, Rock could buy the Rodeo. 102 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: Now you know, there's a lot of money here. With 103 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: all that money he made it, Where did he get 104 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: thirty seven millions something like that? But you know he's 105 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: still making money in the league just that one season. Yeah, well, anyway, 106 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: I ever forget that picture of him and his family 107 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: out there so happy, and I thought, man, the culmination 108 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: of everything that went into helping your be an athlete 109 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: and his parents. Of course, I remember talking to them 110 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: about what it was like traveling around and being executives 111 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: and doing this all over the country. They loved what 112 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: they did. Oswaller one of three Texans quarterbacks to start 113 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 1: and win a playoff game for this franchise. So there, 114 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: shob Yates Oswaller, there you go, and you hope as 115 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: a Texans fan that'll change next year, of course, and 116 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson will be the first quarterback to win two 117 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: playoff games. At least two playoff games. Let's start with 118 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: one and then we'll move on from there. Okay, general, wait, 119 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: before we get it to some hardcore Texans stuff, are 120 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: you watching the spring league at all? Have you seen 121 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: side at all? A tweet and retweet about it. I'm 122 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: happy if it works, and I hope it goes over well. 123 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: I'd love to see a lot of these players get 124 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: signed for NFL training camps and a couple of the 125 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks that are getting a chance to play. Markoff said, 126 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: and I think you agree the NFL needs and developmental 127 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: leagues because scifically for quarterbacks and offensive linemen and wide receivers, 128 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: they have more trouble in the transition to the NFL 129 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: than other positions. And if they got to play, and 130 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: then whether they were assigned by a team or became 131 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: free agents, I don't care, but there's the quarterback in 132 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: the NFL is so bad once you started having injuries. 133 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: Guys need a place to develop. And whether it's that 134 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: league or Oliver Luck's XFL where both of them, it's 135 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: good to see guys get a chance, and I think 136 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: a lot of them are going to end up on 137 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: the NFL roster. What's upon a time Dave ra Collin 138 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: played for Frankfurt and we actually had him on the 139 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: air when I was doing The Afternoon when Oliver Luck 140 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: was a general manager over there. Yes, I believe so 141 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: maybe he was already back here at that point, Well, no, 142 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: Oliver was there till it was. He was. He was 143 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: general manager of Frankfort gal because he man he was 144 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: the executive director of the whole league, of the whole 145 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: league because of the job he'd done at Frankfort. And 146 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: then he came here to the Titamo next. No, no, no, no, 147 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: he went to He left and went to Austin, built 148 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: a home and was starting consulting business. And I thought 149 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: at one point it would be Oliver Luck or Roger 150 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: Deal to replace Paul Taglebo and entered NFL International hired 151 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: Don Garber from soccer instead of promoting Oliver. So he 152 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: came back and right when he was ready to get 153 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: entrenched in Austin, and think how much different Andrew's career 154 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: could have been playing football over there instead of Stratford, 155 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: Harris County. Houston Sports authority called him. Negotiated deal. He 156 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: came and did that, and then and then the Dynamo 157 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: hired him, and once he got the stadium built, he 158 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: went to West Virginia. I've told Oliver Luck for years 159 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: he can't hold a job. And the reason is he's 160 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: a very smart guy who has to be challenged and 161 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: he likes those challenges. He built up West Virginia there 162 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: the in time, the facilities and everything. Then he needed 163 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: a new challenge that he went to the NCAA And 164 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: right now he has the biggest challenge of his career 165 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: trying to make a second minor league work in reports. 166 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: Like people say, why in the world would Oliver luck 167 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: Be leave being the number two guy the NCAA in 168 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: Indianapolis where his Sun plays to go to the XFFL Well, 169 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: the reports where he got twenty million guaranteed, that's a 170 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: good reason. I guess that's a good reason. John, and 171 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: I think the XFL will have a lot of buzz 172 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: at least when they launched. You know, they'll have to 173 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: hold people's attention, but they'll get it from the get 174 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: go because of who they are people. Some people have 175 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: good memories of the last recognition. Yeah, I get that, 176 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: he hate me memories. They you know, they remember the 177 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: way they started games. I know it didn't go well 178 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: for them with NBC and they delayed the start of 179 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live and that wasn't popular within the network 180 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: at the time. But I think they've addressed some of 181 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: those things. And you know that WWE influence certainly stands out. 182 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: Vince big Man is a master and promoter. The attention 183 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: the XFFL got originally because of him was amazing. The 184 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: first week's ratings were through the roof, and then it 185 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: fell off a cliff. Now I got to find a 186 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: way to sustain it. I like the fact that Oliver 187 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: is gonna have I think half the league is going 188 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: to train here over you of age, and I'm guessing 189 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: the other hand probably be in Dallas. I'm still amazed 190 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: that Bob Stoops came out of retirement to coach that team. 191 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see who's gonna coach Houston. Stoops 192 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: must because I have a feeling could Stoops get an 193 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: NFL job? I don't think so. No, No, because there 194 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: was a time when, oh, Jerry Jones is going to 195 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: go after him. He's the hottest property and well to 196 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: come out of college football. Anyway, there was a time 197 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: when big game Bob was going to be the guy 198 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: coming out of college. If anybody was going to do it, 199 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: he could do it. And I guess it just went 200 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: on so long at Oklahoma and it wasn't bad at 201 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: the end, but it wasn't as great as it could be. Guess, 202 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: and he's bored. It could be and the shorter season 203 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: and recruiting and but man, you got the x I 204 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: fail from University of Oklahoma. I guess the only thing 205 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: I can think of he's bored. Oliver's a good salesman. 206 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: They couldn't have a better guy. Oliver Luck understands pr 207 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: in the media more than any Currenter former player I've 208 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: ever met, going back to the day was drafted. He's 209 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: always always understood that. And if you're going around the 210 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: country doing news conferences, who's better than Oliver Luck? Because 211 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: Oliver smart, he's used to dealing with the media. He's 212 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: funny and he gets his message across. So I think 213 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: Vince McMahon paying him, whether it's guaranteed, whether that's two 214 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: or not twenty million guaranteed, was very shrewd by for 215 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: Vic McMahon. All right, John, what about your mock draft? 216 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: You've done fifty of them already? Now, how many have 217 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: you done? In the Houston Chronic and Wilson and I 218 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: have done three. We wanted to start earlier this year, 219 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: last year and the year before we started after the combine, 220 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: but because they get so much interest on Texas sports, 221 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: Nation and Houston Chronicle dot Com. We started, and I 222 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: tried a different mine up every week and someday, so 223 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: are you gonna claim that you were right right or whatever? 224 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: The only one that I it's my official one is 225 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: the last one runs the day of the draft. But 226 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I'm going to be able to look 227 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: back and say, yeah, I had him in my third 228 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: MOB draft because I'm having a different offensive tackle in 229 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: the first round, different offensive tackle in the second round. 230 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: And I had one corner last week, Byron Murphy from 231 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: Washington the first round, and then I had two tackles 232 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: in the second round. Yadney could Us the left tackle 233 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: from West Virginia, and Caleb McGarry, right tackle from Washington 234 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: in the second round. And that one wouldn't surprise me. 235 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: McGarry because he started for four years at right tackle. 236 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: Now at sixty six seven, he has his undergraduate degree 237 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: as a master's degree, and he's a right tackle. Another 238 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: one in the first week, David Edwards of Wisconsin. I 239 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: had him in a second round at right tackle. And 240 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: my left tackles have been andre or do I really 241 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: want them to take? And then I went with Byron 242 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: Murphy last week this week I went with Cody Ford 243 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: from Oklahoma, who is more of a right tackle and 244 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: could play inside. They don't need inside, they need tackles, 245 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: and I think that Brian Gaine will sign a veteran tackle, 246 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: but there's not anybody out there is guarantee of coming 247 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: in starting, but they'll sign one, and I think they'll 248 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: sign a corner and that eases the pressure a little 249 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: bit in the first two rounds, Like if they saw 250 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: a guy they thought was going to be a good 251 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: inside pass rusher, or if they lose Covington and Blackson 252 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: in free agency, they're gonna have to ask somebody replace them, 253 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: Or if they saw somebody that could have rushed from 254 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: the outside and give them a third presence there, or 255 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: maybe there's a running back or a wide receiver. But 256 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: I still believe they're gonna have two new tackles and 257 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna have two new corners. And this week I 258 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: had Cody for the first round. In the second round, 259 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: I had my left tackle, and that would be Titus 260 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: Howard from Alabama State, who stock has been on the 261 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: rise since the Senior Bowl. In my first pick in 262 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: the second round was Traymon mull In the corner from Clemson. 263 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: So I've tried to switch mine round every week, and 264 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: have you had two corners and a tackle? Hasn't always 265 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: been two tackles, two tackles in a corner, and I 266 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: think it's two corners in a tackle. Yeah. See, you 267 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: think they don't need two starting tackles. I'm not saying 268 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: they saw every game. I'm not saying free play. I'm 269 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: not saying they're not looking for that. But I have 270 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: a theory on it. I'll share it with you. Plus, 271 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: I want your take on a take that the Morning 272 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: Show was talking about Thursday Morning. Also all time leading passers. 273 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: Where does Tom Brady stand? And why does Mike Florio 274 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: say what he said about the Hall of Fame and 275 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: Brady and Belichick. I gotta get into this with The 276 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: General that's coming up next on Texans All Access. The 277 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: General visits on Thursdays, and I love it. We're here 278 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: the Texans Radio Studio. Mark Vandermer with you, Okay, John, 279 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: I went in my vandermock one point zero two corners 280 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: and a tackle in the first three picks. Well, I 281 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: went Greedy Williams, all right, because you know, here's here's 282 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: the thing and I'm not saying he will be there 283 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: for sure, but once upon a time, Whitney Merciless, there 284 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: was no chance they were going to get a guy 285 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: like that. Like no one. I don't even think anybody 286 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: had Whitney Merciless in twenty twelve mocked to the Houston Texans. 287 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: I bears a lot earlier, a lot earlier. But the 288 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: Texans pick twenty sixth he dropped. That was my theory 289 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: in one point. Oh and and never mind the players. 290 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: My theory is this that they need corners. I mean, look, 291 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: this was a huge issue for them because of injury 292 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: and other things last year, and I think they got 293 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: to address it. Like you said, maybe they assigned somebody, 294 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: maybe more than one guy, to take the pressure off 295 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: the need to draft a certain position in the first 296 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: three picks. But I believe that they'll they'll look long 297 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: at cornerback with the first three picks. Okay, bread, he's there, 298 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: they take him right, all right? You got in the 299 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: second round. I had I had Ford dropping See this 300 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: is my h You got Ford dropping that four in 301 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: the second round. Yeah, so or did you dream this 302 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: when you were sleeping? Yeah? I actually I fantasized about 303 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: this this kind of thing. All right, let me ask you, Yeah, 304 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: they would get him if he was there in the 305 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: second round. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. But thinks Weather second 306 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: round back to back Trayvon Mullin from Clemson, John, because 307 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: you cannot have enough players on the pal Metal State 308 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: on this franchise, Rob, I had them taking him in 309 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: the second round as well. I had rock yaws Sin 310 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: from Temple is another one, and uh, I can't remember 311 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: who my third. I had Mollan this week, rock y'alls 312 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: Sin the first week and the second week. The corner 313 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: that I had as the first pick in the second round, 314 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: I can't remember off the top of my head. And 315 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: then oh I didn't because I had Byron Murphy from 316 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: Washington going in the first round. They had two tackles 317 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: in the second. So we both agree they need a 318 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: corner and they need corners and offensive tackles. John, what 319 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: about safety here? I brought it up with the Morning 320 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: guys last week that hey, you could lose both Kareem 321 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: Jackson and Tyron Matthew pretty easily here because they're free agents. 322 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: They might hit the market. You might not be able 323 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: to resign them. I mean, it's a free market. And 324 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: this happened. Somebody pays more than you're willing to for 325 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: a player, So don't think that that's out of the 326 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: realm of possibility going into this free agent period. Well, 327 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: they could sign them if they want to sign them, 328 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: and they got the money, just they put a value 329 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: on it. Brian Shan does with Bill O'Brien, and they decide, Okay, 330 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: if they get more, do they want to go up? 331 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: Like they had a budget for a J Boyer as 332 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: the money and it was a lot of money. They 333 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: did too Nate Soldier last year, they get up to 334 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: sixteen and a half million, Holy, but he wanted to 335 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: go to the Giants for more and he got it, 336 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: and so they will do that. So I don't see 337 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: them letting both go. I think the guy since Matthews younger, 338 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: but he's only been here one year. And the thing 339 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: is with his history of injuries and Tying played really 340 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: well last year. He made some mistakes at the end. 341 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: Kareem had the best season of his career and he's 342 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: gonna be thirty one years old, and he's a physical 343 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: player and his versatility and his willingness to play safety 344 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: makes him appealing. But I don't see somebody breaking them 345 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: back for thirty one year old defensive back. So I 346 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: think one of them will be back. Now you have 347 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: Justin Reid, of course, and and Andreal made some big 348 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: plays after he came back. He's a fall beating cancer, 349 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: so you'd have I think one of those guys will 350 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: be back. If Matthew leaves, Kareem will play safety. That 351 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: gives them three safeties. And they're gonna bring in new 352 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: corners anyway. So and in a perfect world, those guys 353 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: will be good enough to start or be the third. 354 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: And they got to be fast. They like him to 355 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: be bigger. They haven't given up on Aaron Colvin. I 356 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: think he will. He will concentrate on slot corner like 357 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: he played in Jacksonville. Kevin Johnson wildcard. You know, don't 358 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: know if Kevin after two concussions last year, he was 359 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: cleared to come back, but they didn't want him to 360 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: have a third one. And he's in the mix. They 361 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: got j Joe's they're working out like crazy now. So 362 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: O'Brien likes competition. They're gonna have it at offensive tackle, 363 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna have it at corner. Brian Gain is gonna 364 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: sign guys and he's gonna draft guys and it's gonna 365 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: be fun. As I've said this before, when the Texans 366 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: used their first pick on a offensive tackle, he will 367 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: be the first offensive tackle in history to get a 368 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: standing ovation from the local fans. You know, usually a 369 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: tackle you're like, but in this case, fans want tackles 370 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: so bad. I think it's gonna be very exciting for 371 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: whoever it is. And if they did lose both of them, 372 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: it's a this works against Tyran. It's a lot of 373 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of safety out there in free agency, 374 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: more more good safeties than there are good corners. That 375 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: keeps the price down. And I don't know what the 376 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: Texans are willing to pay, but you'd like to see 377 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: both those guys back, but I think one will be gone. Yeah. 378 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: I just like bringing up the point that it's not 379 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: just oh, sign here, it's done. There's a competition for 380 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: these guys. And you're right, if the market is a 381 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: bit flooded or a bit crowded, it does factor in. 382 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: But maybe a player wants to go somewhere or else, 383 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: and maybe it has nothing to do with how he 384 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: likes the organization. Maybe it's proximity or a former coach 385 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: or whatever. So we'll find out. You know, it's not Kareem. 386 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 1: Kareem is entrenched here, his family, his wife, Jjo, they 387 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: don't want to go. Jjo's like his football soulmate. And 388 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: I believe this about Kareem Jackson. I thought when he 389 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: got his last contract he was probably gonna be gone. 390 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: But they gave him what he wanted and he stayed. 391 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: So I could see Kareem giving them a chance. Say okay, 392 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: his agent saying okay, So and so's off and this 393 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: Saint Jacksonville is offering this, will imagine giving him a 394 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: chance now tying he's been here one year and he 395 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: likes it here, and it's close to Louisiana, where he's from, 396 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: and he loves Louisiana and so. But Kareem, because he's 397 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: so entrenched in the city, I could see him taking 398 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: a little less and I'm not talking about two million 399 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: dollars less, but a little less to stay here. You know, 400 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: a lot of state did income taxes to figure into this. 401 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: You know the cost of living, you know where you live. 402 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: And he's your family going to stay here while you're 403 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: gonna go rent someplace else. That's one reason Jonathan Joseph 404 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 1: didn't go to Oakland. He would have been out there 405 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: in the apartment while his family's wife and kids kids 406 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: were still in school. And one of the reasons was 407 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: he was offered more by the Raiders, but he didn't 408 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: want to go through all that, plus played out in 409 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: California where the taxes are tougher than anywhere else. So 410 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: I believe there's a good chance Kareem will be back. 411 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: John running back your thoughts moving forward to me. They 412 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: know what they got. Lamar Miller. He's going in the 413 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: last year of his contract and he was having a 414 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: really good year and he missed two and a half 415 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: games because andreies and then I still don't know. I 416 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: can't wait to talk to people at the combine who 417 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: played against the Texans. What happened to the running game 418 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: when they played Indianapolis Here in laws, they shut down 419 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: the running game and from that point on, Watson was 420 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: the leading Russia, which is ridiculous. So something happened. It 421 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: wasn't the backs all of a sudden were bad. Something 422 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: they found up front, so that run blocking they needed 423 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: to be Like in the last six games of the 424 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: winning streak to average one hundred and seventy one yards 425 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: during the winning streak to average one hundred and forty three, 426 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: and at that point for the season they were averaging 427 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty and then they dropped off the 428 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: face of the earth with the run. And it's worth 429 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: noting during those healthy stretches you're talking about that Watson 430 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: did have a little bit of a chunk of that, 431 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: but it wasn't that voluminous. I mean, the backs were 432 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: definitely carrying the bulk of it, but you don't want 433 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: your quarterback in your leading ruster. And so he after 434 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: a tribute, the kid is is Deontay for him and 435 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: going to prove to Bill O'Brien that he is serious 436 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: about coming in here and competing for the starting job 437 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 1: and getting playing time, which means he better be working 438 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: his tail off right now. He should be like Jonathan Joseph, 439 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: working out over here and showing them that he's serious. 440 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: Because I don't think Alfred Blue will be back, and 441 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: Duke Johnson's may be on the market, but Cleveland's talking 442 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: about it too. Nobody's gonna give up a two for 443 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: Duke Johnson. That kind of back I think would fit 444 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: in well here. But I could see it being a 445 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: free agent, or I could see it being like a 446 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: sixth round free agent, really free agent in the March 447 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: signing period or after the traft, somebody in the cart 448 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: that they think would fit in here. I don't I 449 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: don't see them signing Levion Bell giving them sixteen million 450 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: a year and he's talking about forty to fifty million guaranteed. 451 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: And I just don't see Brian Gaine putting out that 452 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: kind of money for that position. But they definitely need 453 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: to elevate it, and it all starts up front. I 454 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: don't think Levian Bell could have made the run blocking 455 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: improve and I believe they know that. And I think 456 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: there will be a third back. There's an addition who 457 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: will be competing for playing time. He will be a 458 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: good receiver, and he'd better be able to block. If 459 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: he can't block, you'd better be willing to learn, because 460 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: O'Brien is a stickler about that, because you have to 461 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: be able to protect the quarterback. As a running back, 462 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: you got to be able to chip, you gotta be 463 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: able to do what. You gotta be a multifacted back, 464 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: not just somebody that toads the mail. Right. The general 465 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: is going to hang around with us and Brady and Belichick. 466 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: Mike Florio suggested they get it to the Hall of 467 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: Fame right away, no waiting period. What does the general 468 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: think of that? Also, Russell Wilson to the Giants, rumor, 469 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: my goodness, we'll go around the league. More Texans talk. 470 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: It's always coming up right here on Texans All Access. 471 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: Happy Thursday, Happy cook Off. Launch the world? What is it? 472 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: The World Championship of Barbet? It certainly does not. All 473 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: the odors are that pleasant when you walk out of 474 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: the building here at NRG Stadium during rodeo time. But 475 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of a nice thing because it's 476 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: the rodeo and you like the folksiness of it, and 477 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: it's a great, great event, great series of events. But yeah, 478 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: don't get me started on the odors. All right. John 479 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: McClean is with us from the Houston Chronicle. A couple 480 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: of things we've got to get into here. So Mike 481 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: Florio put out there his website, did that when Belichick 482 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: and Brady retire, John, they should have no waiting period 483 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: and go right into Canton. I'll share my thoughts in 484 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: a moment, your thoughts on that. First of all. Uh, 485 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: Mike is the best at throwing things out there to 486 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: get people to talk about it like we are, and 487 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: therefore you get hits on it. And he knows that's 488 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. And why single those two guys out? Ye? 489 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: Vince Marty won five championships and he had to wait one? 490 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: Should Bill Belichick? Uh? Not after Wait now, if he 491 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: coaches till his eighty you know, and you're worried about, okay, 492 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: five years after his career, maybe he's not gonna know 493 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: where he is. Like Pat Bolan, we put him in 494 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: this year and he's at Alzheimer's for years and felt 495 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: terrible for him but happy for his family. But Brady, 496 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: we didn't do it for Joe Montana, John Elway, Johnny Unitas. Yeah, 497 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: and those guys were longer backs in the history. We 498 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: haven't done it for Peyton Manning. So I'm pretty sure 499 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: that I think Tom Brady and Belichick would be embarrassed 500 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: if the Hall of Fame did that. There's no chance 501 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: of it happening, but people sure liked to talk about it. Well. 502 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: My feeling on those things is why do that? Five 503 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: years later they'll love having that kind of thing happened 504 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna say they'll be bored, but it 505 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: would be great to re celebrate your football career that way. 506 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: After many years go by, you haven't played, and it's 507 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: a wonderful thing to do. You have that whole weekend, 508 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: the whole year really leading up to it. Let them 509 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: have that moment. I hate it when teams or organizations 510 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: retired jerseys too quickly, you know. I think Andrey Johnson 511 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: loved having his jersey retire. Here wasn't like right away. 512 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: It happened after a few years, and it's great that 513 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: he can soak it up and have that moment. I'll 514 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: go back to this. I brought up this example before 515 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: the University of Texas retired Colt McCoy's jersey. I think 516 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: it was the next year after he was out of school. 517 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: Give it ten fifteen years. So he has a wonderful 518 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: event to cherish those college memories and everybody else can 519 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: remember him. You don't have to do these things right away. 520 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: I remember the late Will mcdonnald from the Boston Globe 521 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: lobbying the voters to vote for past sales. He said 522 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: he's not coming back. Well, he came back a couple 523 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: of times, and I believe Dinkin came back, Camptrey was 524 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: in there, and Joe Joe Gibbs came back. But there's 525 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: no reason that they shouldn't wait like everybody else. You 526 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: cannot make exceptions and plays in the Hall of Fame 527 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: would never vote for this. I loved seeing Joe Gibbs 528 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: up there at a NASCAR press conference. I don't follow 529 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: NASCAR at all, but you know round than I. But 530 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: I know his son died recently, and that man a 531 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 1: lot to him. Yeah, I mean just seeing Joe Gibbs, 532 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: and I love that he has that interest in his 533 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: life and he's involved that way in another sport at 534 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: a high level. I think that's great stuff. Indeed, all right, 535 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: Colin Coward, who is who was the Grand Marshal of 536 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: the Daytona Fat Miners I forgot, Yeah it was JJ Watt. 537 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: He did a jury the job rehearsed hem. He's a 538 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: big he see a driver, he used to be a driver. 539 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: I don't think so car owner he I think, not 540 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 1: an association with NASCAR, he's JJ Watt. He has an 541 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: association with life. I've heard of him. Yeah, Russell Wilson 542 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: Coward brought it up. Would he go to New York 543 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: because of his wife wanted to be in the entertainment Mecca? 544 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, is this? Is this even in 545 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: the realm of possibility. I believe his wife would want 546 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: to be in la I'm sure they have a home 547 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: and lay dying to go to New York. Right. So 548 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: that's just another one. Somebody's thrown against the wall seeing 549 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: what sticks. Another one like that, John, does it blow 550 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: you away like it blows me away? That the Pittsburgh 551 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Steelers can't somehow have a happy enough environment for a 552 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: Levion Bell and Antonio Brown to show up to work 553 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: and want to participants. They were a model organization for 554 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: the longest time, the envy of other organizations because they 555 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: were run so smoothly and they had contract issues. Everybody 556 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: does sooner or later. And Levion Bell's was all about money. 557 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't causing trouble. He just wanted more money. 558 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: And in this day and age, because the social media 559 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: things are going to be bigger than they used to be. 560 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: As far as the attention, it won't go away. Antonio 561 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: Brown's a painting that, you know what. He's been that 562 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: way for years Mike Tomlin let him get away with it. 563 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: You can find a guy from mincing meetings and being 564 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: late to meetings, but it check feet if you make 565 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: millions of dollars because they're limited by the CBA on 566 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: what they can do. Now, he could have suspended him 567 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: like he did this last game for in subordination. But 568 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: Brown's such a great player, and everybody says when he's there, 569 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: he practices really hard when he's there. But the Steelers, 570 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: they have to cut ties. Ed Buchett has covered them 571 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: for eighty for since nineteen eighty four. I looked at 572 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: his chat this week and it is all about mister 573 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: big chest, and he said they have to get rid 574 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: of him. You take what you can get, you cut 575 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: ties because he's been such a distraction up there, and 576 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: it's he's been at Remember when when the players, the 577 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: offensive lineman ripped Levion Bell when he didn't show up 578 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: because they said he told him he's going to be there, 579 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: and so they were expecting to come in and then 580 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: mark hard and the team would win, and when he didn't, 581 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: that's when they spoke up. And then in this case 582 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: with Antonio Brown, I have never seen going back to 583 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: my first training camp in seventy seven player do a 584 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: worst job at being traded than he has. You know, 585 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: he's ripped his coach, his quarterback, his organization. He says 586 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: he wants guaranteed money, and now he didn't want to 587 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: be a b wants to be mister big Chess. That's 588 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: what everybody's called him in Pittsburgh. And so how many 589 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: teams want that headache? Don't matter how good you are, 590 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: especially if you make a trade and he says, I'm 591 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: not coming unless I get guaranteed money. Mike Tomlin, Let's 592 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: say they have another season where they go nine and 593 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: seven or something, they don't make the playoffs. They missed 594 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: the playoffs again eight and eight, nine and seven, something 595 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: like that, where you had some success, you barely missed it. 596 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: I mean, or let me throw this one out there. 597 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: They go five and eleven and six and ten. Is 598 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: he gone? Or does eight and eight, nine and seven 599 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: in a playoff miss get him out of there? What 600 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: is his job security? Laffe? I think he'd be gone. 601 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: I think he'd get another job immediately. A big loss 602 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: was Mike Munch actor offensive line coach. Mike is probably 603 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: right up there, right behind Dante's Carnegie in New England, 604 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: his best offensive coach and him his contract was up. 605 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: They tried to keep him, but he went to Denver 606 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: reason as his daughter and son in law and a baby, 607 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: a grandkid there, plus his other daughters in LA so 608 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: it puts them closer. But that was a tremendous loss. 609 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: You know, if you look at their line and where 610 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: they were a couple of years ago. And one of 611 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: the reasons lemon Bell had a lot of yards is 612 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: because Munchak did a great job with the line and 613 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: something about Antonio Brown. He can blast Ben Roethlisberger all 614 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: he wants, but Roethlisberger has thrown him all those passes. 615 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: And when he gets traded, he better hope he goes 616 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: to a quarterback who will throw him the ball as 617 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: much as Roethlisberger did, and they'll be as prolific as 618 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: that Toosoon was. Because he has shown if he's not 619 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: happy with his quarterback or he doesn't happy about how 620 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: many passes he's getting, he's a me first guy. He'll 621 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: take the social media to let his feelings be known. 622 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger doing what he does, saying what he says. If 623 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: he was any other position than quarterback. You get the 624 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: feeling he might be out of there. That's a distraction. 625 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: But he's a quarterback and he's a really good one. 626 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't like that they've said it's okay for him 627 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: to criticize players on his radio show. I don't think 628 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: that should be done publicly by anybody, right, And I 629 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: don't care who you are, And especially when he was 630 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: having all the trouble off the field and teammates going 631 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: on the air and ripping him. No, I think that's 632 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: a bad look. And for the Steelers to say it's okay, 633 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: I think that's a bad look. Since Dan Rooney's died, 634 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: they have not been the same Steelers. That's a good point. 635 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: John Ben Roethlisberger is sixth on the all time passing 636 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: yards list, not that that's the be all, end all 637 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: in quarterback measurement. It's funny how you have the three 638 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: guys in the class of OZ four all in a 639 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: row at six seventy eight, Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning and 640 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and they're all like within two thousand yards 641 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: of each other on that all time They've been durable. Yeah, 642 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: are they all going to the Hall of Fame? I mean, 643 00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: what's your gut reaction on that. Roethlisberger won two Super 644 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: Bowl rings, but in one of those he was awful. 645 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: He had nothing to do with them winning it, but 646 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: he still wanted. He's got the ring. And Eli Manning 647 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: made great plays in two Super Bowls, but I don't 648 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: think Eli has been a consistently great quarterback. Philip Rivers 649 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: has been durable, he's been a great passer. He's never 650 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,959 Speaker 1: been to a Super Bowl. I don't hold I don't 651 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: hold that against you. If you have Super bowls, I 652 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: think it works in your favor. But right now, I 653 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: don't see any of them being a sure fire first 654 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer. But the way guys are going today, 655 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: they may play into their forties. Yeah, you never know. 656 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: And the yards John as a Hall of Fame selection 657 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: committee the way we've never heard anybody say when they're 658 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: making a presentation, and he threw for two thousand, four 659 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: d seventy three yards, putting him second in history behind 660 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: so and so. You can get bogged down in numbers. 661 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: Somebody's up there. I remember a guy made a presentation 662 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: one year and he had so many numbers. They're just 663 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: going in one year and out the other. And he's 664 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: a friend of mine. So I mentioned to him during 665 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: the season that when he made the presentation next year, 666 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: I just recommend it hit the high highlights on the numbers, 667 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: and he did, and the guy got in. And so 668 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: you don't. You may people send out things that we 669 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: can look at it, so they're always lobbying us. And 670 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: so if you have yards and it's fourth in history 671 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: or third or something like that, it's important. But when 672 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: you stand up and talk those numbers, they don't have 673 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: the same effect when you're looking at him. So it 674 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: kinds you look for every little advantage you can to 675 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: help your guy get in. Like when I'm presenting Andre Johnson, 676 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: the things that I'm going to point out is what 677 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: he had it was just him and Jerry Rice or 678 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: just him and Marvin Harrison. And then at the end, 679 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to point out all the quarterbacks he played 680 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: with compared to like some of these other receivers who 681 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: put like Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne and I got Well, 682 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: when you point that out, I do. It's not making 683 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: it like it's a negative that those guys got to 684 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: play with great quarterbacks, but I think it's certainly positive. Yeah, 685 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: to change the curve. Yeah, and if DeAndre Hopkins keeps 686 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: it up, you know he's got a chance to go 687 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame as well. Yeah, bringing him up. John. 688 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: You look at Pro Football Focus some other media outlets, 689 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: and I know they're an analytical kind of thing, but 690 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: they're also big on the media. But Hopkins is on 691 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: these lists not just as the number one or among 692 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: the best wide receivers, but players in the game. And 693 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: we always talk about quarterbacks because they have the ball 694 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: on every play and oh my gosh, they're so important. 695 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: But when you look at Hopkins, he's one of the 696 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: very best players in this game period. And we were 697 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: going over the Mount rushmore of the Texans because it 698 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: was President's Day earlier in the week and we put him. 699 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: We put them on there. Now he's one of the 700 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 1: top four guys. Well he should be, and he's so 701 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: phenomenal at what he does. He's played with a lot 702 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: of different quarterbacks. Now he's got a really good guy 703 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: to play with him. The numbers are gonna go through 704 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: the roof. Think about what he he gets double teamed 705 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: all the time. If will Fuller could actually stay healthy, 706 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: that would help DeAndre and if kekqt could stay healthy 707 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: and people go well, he'd get fewer passes. I don't 708 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: think so. They would get their share, but he would 709 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: always get the most. And the fact that he's a 710 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: highlight reel that helps. And of course if they could 711 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: win a playoff game, that would help. But his durability 712 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: has been remarkable. Only missed that last game two years 713 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: ago and he had a bone issue, and he said 714 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: he would have played the heat the shoulder injury that 715 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: he ended up with the end of this season he 716 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: played with It was to me miraculous. And every time 717 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: I see Antonio Brown, the more I appreciate DeAndre Hopkins. 718 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 1: Sure because Antonio brott Lake, he said, played with Roethlisberger, 719 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about his personality that he's such a 720 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: diva and a head case and a me first guy, 721 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 1: where Dejandre's none of those things. No, he's not. He's 722 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: a great character though, I mean on social media it's 723 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: funny he's he's the antithesis of Andre Johnson in that way. Well, 724 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say antithesis because he's not. He's not a 725 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: me first guy in a negative way at all. He's 726 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: he's a guy who likes to wear great clothing. Well 727 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: I say great, I mean according to him or according 728 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: to your taste. Well deep, he tells me that he's 729 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: like right on point with fashion, that it's right there, 730 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: it's great stuff. Like I can't get away with that look, 731 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: Oh you could not good. He can't. Told me he's 732 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: gonna get me some of his costume, but he never did. 733 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: I can't wear jaguar print to the game when you're 734 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: playing the Jaguars, you can try it. Not a good 735 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: look for me, John, Maybe you wear it when they 736 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: played the Jaguars in England. You show up next year 737 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: wearing a Jaguar print and we'll tweeted out. Martin van 738 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: Demir has arrived. All right, I've got two questions for 739 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: you in the way out here, and we have a 740 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: little bit of time to expand on these. All right, First, 741 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: rap pick, I'm gonna give you a pick here, tackle 742 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: or anything else the field ta tacle. So you'll take 743 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: tackle versus the field versus any other position? Yes, okay, 744 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: first round trade possibility in your eyes because you have 745 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: two seconds. What if there's somebody you want to move 746 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: up five spots and you can burn one of those 747 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: seconds and do whatever you whatever. It's gonna cost. Likelihood 748 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: of a trade in the first round. I'm not gonna 749 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: say zero, but close to zero. They have needs. You 750 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: God needs a tackle, You got needs a corner. Your 751 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: first three pigs at some point this season should be starting. 752 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: That would be your first round pig. Two pigs in 753 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: a second round. Wow. And because they need two new tackles, 754 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: I think Martinez Ranking will start at left guard and 755 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: they need one or two new corners, and those guys 756 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: are gonna be able to run and it'll be a 757 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: baptism baptism by fire. You're thinking two rookie tackles starting, Yep, 758 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Just like h and you whether 759 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: who's the other tackle gonna be? Well, I just think 760 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: some way, somehow, even if you draft two tackles in 761 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: those first three picks, one of those guys that's just 762 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: not gonna be. And you might be right that the 763 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: first few games you'd have Julian Davenporter, Seantrell Henderson or 764 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: a tackle who signed in Henderson's coming back. And I 765 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: thought that was a kind of a sneaky under the 766 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: radar positive for this team, because give him another goal, 767 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: you know he got hurt in the very first game. 768 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: Maybe he could stay out there for a while and contributed, 769 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: and that would be great if he did. They were 770 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: really fired up about what he did in the offseason 771 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: and training camp preseason, but he hadn't done anything. Now 772 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: Trent Brown had never done anything, and then he got 773 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: opportunity in New England and now he's gonna make a 774 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: lot of money. I would not go after Trent Brown 775 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: if New England doesn't resign him. If New England is 776 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 1: walking away from players, I would stay away from him. 777 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler was a bust in Tennessee. They won't say 778 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: Logan Ryan has been. But if Belichick lets them get 779 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: away now Chandler Jones was a money issue. But if 780 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna make Brady have a third consecutive left tackle, 781 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 1: then something's wrong. But I do think they'll sign a 782 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: tackle in a corner and I think that barring another 783 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: position like a running back, they just have to have. 784 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me, and I may do this on 785 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: a mock draft if in the second round, and Aaron 786 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,919 Speaker 1: Wilson had this with Devin Singletary in Florida Atlantic if 787 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 1: they saw back in the second round, that they had 788 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 1: to have, or even a wide receiver who was big 789 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 1: and fast with no history of injuries like Kiqt never 790 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: had a history of injuries in Texas Tech. I can 791 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: see him doing that there too. You have to maximize 792 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: everything around to Shaun Watts. All right, My other question 793 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: for you, the field type question, Jackson. They'll start a quarterback. 794 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: You're playing them in London sometime mid season, and their 795 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: started quarterback is Nick Foles, Teddy Bridgewater or the field 796 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 1: Nick Foles. You're gonna take falls Once they signed John 797 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: d Philippo. The thing is Mark, they have a bad 798 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,720 Speaker 1: cap situation. They're supposed to like get rid of Marcel 799 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: Darius and Malik Jackson. They've got Tavid Bryant who was 800 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: number one picked last year, and Ray to play that position. 801 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: They have to clear up a lot of money to 802 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: sign anybody, and I think when de Filippo went there, 803 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: even though Doug Moron said had nothing to do with it, 804 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: I think that was gave them the inside track. I 805 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: thought Denver was in the running. Denver wanted Joe Flacco 806 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: and they're paying him a lot of money. I think 807 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: case Keenan will end up in another team where he's 808 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: got a chance to start, and I think Foles is 809 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: in natural for Jacksonville. John, what do you have going 810 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: out of the chronicle? Mark? Drafts are posted right now. 811 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Wilson and I have started a preview of the combine. 812 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: Mine was five story text and storylines about the Combine, 813 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: which is up. Aaron's doing offensive tackle preview. I've got 814 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 1: cornerback preview. Will do that, and then we also will 815 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: do previews on the free agent positions and the free 816 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: agents who will be unrestricted on March thirteen. Thank you 817 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: very much, Mark. As always, I will see you in Indianapolis. 818 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: All right, we'll see an indie. 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