WEBVTT - Ep. 57: Predicting Week 18: Who Will Show Out When We Need It Most? | Jags A.M. Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Jagsam. I'm kind Nanni Stevens, John Oser, Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Sexton are with me as we have our final regular

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<v Speaker 1>season jag XAM of the year. As we prepare for

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<v Speaker 1>the final game of the year. It's win and in

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<v Speaker 1>for the Jags as to take on the Titans in

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<v Speaker 1>Week eighteen. Our first big thing today is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be you in or out, because while it is win

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<v Speaker 1>or in for the team, we don't quite know yet

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<v Speaker 1>whether Trevor Lawrence will be playing quarterback. You miss last week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's first game of his career that he's missed. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to practice this week and see how

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<v Speaker 1>things go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's feeling better.

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<v Speaker 3>I think certain movements bother more than others.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some things that I can do, and there's some

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<v Speaker 2>areas where I have totally normal strength and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's functional and all that, but in certain positions it

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<v Speaker 2>does get a little bit there's some aggravation. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>getting better every day, but it's still I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to see that go down a little bit more pri

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<v Speaker 2>to totally let it lose.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian, Trevor was limited to practice yesterday. Any inkling with

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<v Speaker 1>this one, this shoulder thing is a lot different than

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<v Speaker 1>what we've seen from him earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, last week I said that I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>think he was going to play, and obviously he didn't,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was reading body language and things like that,

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<v Speaker 4>just a guess.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's all I can do this week. I'm fifty

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<v Speaker 3>to fifty, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think the situation sets up John for

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<v Speaker 4>him to try to play through it this week. But

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<v Speaker 4>I just, you know, I didn't get the sense watching him.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a much greater sense that perhaps Kirk and

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<v Speaker 4>Jones will be on the field after watching them on

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<v Speaker 4>the practice field yesterday and watching how smooth they looked.

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<v Speaker 3>Just not a strong gut either way.

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<v Speaker 5>On Trevor, you'd be stunned if Zay didn't play. Surprise

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<v Speaker 5>a Christian doesn't play. And I'm with you. I'm fifty

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<v Speaker 5>to fifty on Trevor kind of go back and forth

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<v Speaker 5>when I'm asked about I think the fact that he

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<v Speaker 5>practiced his goods. He did not practice at all last week,

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<v Speaker 5>and by Thursday you kind of got the feeling no way,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. I mean, it's going to come down

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<v Speaker 5>to how Trevor feels, and I think the other part

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<v Speaker 5>of it will be Doug Peterson watching him throw. When

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<v Speaker 5>he throws, we didn't see him throw yesterday, but when

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<v Speaker 5>he throws, Doug looking at it and saying, okay, we

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<v Speaker 5>feel like that can get us a win. But I

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<v Speaker 5>think they also trust that they have a formula. They

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<v Speaker 5>saw last week. There's a formula where you can beat

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<v Speaker 5>teams with C. J. Bethard, So I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 5>scared of that.

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<v Speaker 4>And how much do you weigh John the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>you could see a playoff game here next week and

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<v Speaker 4>wanting to give him one more week.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this is essentially a playoff game, but if

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<v Speaker 4>he's not quite ready, do you try.

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<v Speaker 3>And hold it off one more week get your chance?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, there's that, but I think just as heavily on

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<v Speaker 5>the other end of the scale, ways wouldn't you love

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<v Speaker 5>to get Trevor some time with Christian, some time with Zay,

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<v Speaker 5>get that flow going a little bit going into the postseason.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think there's an even balance. So I think

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<v Speaker 5>you throw those things out and just comes down to

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<v Speaker 5>can he throw effectively? Do you trust it?

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like there's a bit of a timeline here too,

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<v Speaker 1>because as we know, they like to see Trevor practice

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<v Speaker 1>because of the issues he's had where he doesn't practice.

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<v Speaker 1>So Thursday today seems like it's gonna be a big day.

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<v Speaker 1>Our second big thing is big game Blues. The team

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<v Speaker 1>has had some big games on their schedule and they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really come through in some of those matchups. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this one may not be big in terms of the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans being very talented at this point in the season,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a big game because the Daguars need to

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<v Speaker 1>win if they want to make it into the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>And Doug Peterson addressed Di yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>You're right in the sense that we haven't performed well

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<v Speaker 6>in the big game yet. And these are the things

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<v Speaker 6>that I keep stressing to our team. You know, expect

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<v Speaker 6>to be in big games, right, Expect to be in

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<v Speaker 6>these types of football games, in these types of moments

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<v Speaker 6>where there's a little maybe a little added pressure and

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<v Speaker 6>you kind of feel that pressure, and you know, we

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<v Speaker 6>haven't handled that extremely well this year. But you know, listen,

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<v Speaker 6>one thing about this team, as you guys know, they

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<v Speaker 6>come out and play hard when they're backs against the

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<v Speaker 6>wall a little bit. They seem to find comfort in that.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, I'll keep I'll keep talking to them.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's trying. John, do you feel confident in what

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see on the field on Sunday or

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<v Speaker 1>do you still feel like we're not really sure where

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<v Speaker 1>we're at with it and talks of effort and just

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of performance they're going to put out.

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<v Speaker 5>There on Yeah, I think the Panthers game came at

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<v Speaker 5>a good time where you could just sort of settle

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<v Speaker 5>things down and show the guys again, hey, if you

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<v Speaker 5>stop the run, if you tackle well, if you do

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<v Speaker 5>your job, and if you don't turn the ball over,

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<v Speaker 5>then that's that's our formula. And they were playing such

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<v Speaker 5>good teams and such weird situations for four weeks, with

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<v Speaker 5>Trevor being hear, with Christian being out. I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>you mean to get away from it. But then maybe

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<v Speaker 5>once everything starts getting real, you get away from it

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit. So yeah, I don't think you'll see

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<v Speaker 5>a repeat of Christmas Eve, where frankly, the effort didn't

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<v Speaker 5>look great, the urgency didn't look great. I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>you'll see that. I expect them to win because they

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<v Speaker 5>match up well against the Titans, and if they play

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<v Speaker 5>this quote simple kind of game. Then I think they

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<v Speaker 5>pull away from them because they're better. So I think

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<v Speaker 5>we will see.

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<v Speaker 3>The effort, you know. I think this is the growth

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<v Speaker 3>area for this team going forward. Khy.

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<v Speaker 4>You look at the Chiefs game, the Niners, the Ravens,

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<v Speaker 4>the Bengals, and the Bills. Those are the five games

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<v Speaker 4>that everyone looked at and said, hey, the NFL laid

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<v Speaker 4>these out for us. These are those line in the

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<v Speaker 4>sand games. Are we going to cross it? And they didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>They only beat the Bills in Buffalo, and against the

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<v Speaker 4>Chiefs didn't play well at all. And against the Niners,

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<v Speaker 4>neither side of the ball played well at all. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just the big games this year were not big games

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<v Speaker 4>except for Buffalo for this football team. And that's where

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<v Speaker 4>they've got to get to where they play the best

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<v Speaker 4>and they play their best against the best, consistently powerful football,

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<v Speaker 4>and they haven't done it. So this is an important

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<v Speaker 4>game against the power team. In other words, they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to run the ball, so we'll see if they're ready

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<v Speaker 4>to stop the run.

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<v Speaker 1>This game is certainly going to prove a lot, so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll look forward to that. We'll talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about that matchup but our final big thing today

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<v Speaker 1>is help is on the way. We talked a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about Jay Jones getting closer to returning, but Christian Kirk,

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<v Speaker 1>just a month after undergoing surgery, are you back on

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<v Speaker 1>the practice field? And he said, even himself, he's impressed

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<v Speaker 1>is what he's been able to do.

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<v Speaker 7>Honestly, the fact that I'm staying here in front of

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<v Speaker 7>you guys today in cleats, being able to go out

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<v Speaker 7>on the practice field is still kind of surreal to me.

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<v Speaker 7>But I've been working tirelessly every single day, been in

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<v Speaker 7>here sometimes the last person to leave, just doing everything

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<v Speaker 7>that I can to get back as fast as I

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<v Speaker 7>can because I want to be available. I want to help,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, bring this team where we all want to go.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's it's taking a lot of work, and I'm

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<v Speaker 7>really happy with where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 1>John Christian was describing his injury a little bit yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought when he went under red surgery, weren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to see him if anything, maybe late, if they

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<v Speaker 1>made some kind of crazy playoff run. But to think

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<v Speaker 1>he's back out there after a month is impressive.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's it's remarkable, and you know, it's it's funny

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<v Speaker 5>with Christian fifteen eighteen months ago, the narrative outside the

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<v Speaker 5>building was how could you pay him that much? Now

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<v Speaker 5>it's he's worth everything you could possibly pay him to

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<v Speaker 5>this scene because you've seen what he means and there's

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<v Speaker 5>this joy and hope of getting him back, and with reason.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, they've got a chance to get into the

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<v Speaker 5>postseason with Christian, Zay, Evan, Ridley, ETN. That's their group,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and with Christian coming back, he's the most

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<v Speaker 5>important of that group to me. And it's not a

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<v Speaker 5>knock on Evan, it's not a knock on Travis's ATN.

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<v Speaker 5>But when Christian's in the game, there's a trust that

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<v Speaker 5>Trevor Lawrence has with him that feels different. It hasn't

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<v Speaker 5>felt that way since he twisted around and got that

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<v Speaker 5>long pass against Cincinnati. It's felt like a struggle since then.

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<v Speaker 5>They need him back, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>He is a great pro right you can see why

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<v Speaker 4>they pay him for his performance on the field and

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<v Speaker 4>the way that he approaches the game. I asked him

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<v Speaker 4>yesterday about you know what drove you through the rehab.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it knowing that.

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<v Speaker 4>You could get back in four weeks or that perhaps

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<v Speaker 4>you could get back to the playoffs, and he said

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<v Speaker 4>what drove me was watching my teammates struggle and wanting

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<v Speaker 4>to do something to help pay off all the work

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<v Speaker 4>that we put in in the offseason and to be

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<v Speaker 4>there for them. I can't say enough about what a

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<v Speaker 4>pro Kirk is and whether it's Trevor Kai or whether

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<v Speaker 4>it's CJ. Bethard, I think both of them could be

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<v Speaker 4>effective on Sunday in Nashville because of number thirteen on

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<v Speaker 4>the field.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be a huge benefit whenever he gets back

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, hopefully for the regular season finale. Say

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<v Speaker 1>with us here on jag Zam, we'll go deep dive

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<v Speaker 1>into that Titans matchup this Sunday, coming up after the break.

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<v Speaker 3>As I mentioned, it sucks, losing.

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<v Speaker 5>Awful.

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<v Speaker 8>That's why I want to win, because you don't sleep.

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<v Speaker 8>You want to win for the players and Buster Tail.

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<v Speaker 8>That's it, you know, I mean, it's not about Hey,

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<v Speaker 8>we'll go into the offseason with a good note. Nobody

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<v Speaker 8>knows what you did on January seventh, or eighth or

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<v Speaker 8>sixth and April when you come back.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard from Doug yesterday I said winning was fun,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike Rabel says losing sucks. So some wise words

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<v Speaker 1>from our coaches for the matchup on Sunday. Mike Rabel's

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<v Speaker 1>so interesting the way he's taken to coaching. Right, He's

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<v Speaker 1>just taken all of that energy he had as a

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<v Speaker 1>football player and turned into a coaching style. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>really gotten the most out of his players, including this

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<v Speaker 1>year with a team that hasn't been great, but what

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<v Speaker 1>he's been able to do.

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<v Speaker 4>But two years ago, he was the AP Coach of

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<v Speaker 4>the Year, right, I mean he won two division titles

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<v Speaker 4>and had three winning seasons.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he's he's a.

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<v Speaker 4>Really good football coach and I hear he's a really

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<v Speaker 4>good guy. They like him up there, and he said

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<v Speaker 4>yesterday that he wanted to be back. I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 4>why they wouldn't want him back.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they always know how they want to play, and

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<v Speaker 5>not every team does. Under Vrabel that they know exactly

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<v Speaker 5>how they want to play. They played to it. It's

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<v Speaker 5>why they're always dangerous. It's why they're dangerous. On Sunday,

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<v Speaker 5>there's rumors about Rabel and New England. There's all those things,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and that makes sense. I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't My gud tells me this is not as his

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<v Speaker 5>last game up there, but I wouldn't mind have him

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<v Speaker 5>out of the division.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and they have a new general manager of Ryan Carthon,

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<v Speaker 4>who might want to do things his own way, so

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<v Speaker 4>perhaps it might make sense for him to go to.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the only way he leaves is if he

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<v Speaker 1>gets wooed somewhere else, which is what that would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Rabel did talk a little bit yesterday. He calmed down,

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<v Speaker 1>apologized for that comment. He's saying, I just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I get a little competitive sometimes, not no offense to anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but completely understandable. He hates to lose. But he talked

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about going into a game like this

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<v Speaker 1>where maybe you don't have anything to play for online technically,

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<v Speaker 1>but what his team is going to be motivated by.

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<v Speaker 8>We want to finish strong. You know, we can. We

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<v Speaker 8>can finish this thing the right way.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we can.

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<v Speaker 8>Finish it, you know, with a lot of class, and

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<v Speaker 8>we can also you know, get get a huge win

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<v Speaker 8>and also you know, potentially, you know, I think it

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<v Speaker 8>would just be critical to get a home win here

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<v Speaker 8>to finish the season in the division against a team

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<v Speaker 8>that kept us from the playoffs last year last year,

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<v Speaker 8>So that's what we're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Finishing strong, finishing with class. But as you mentioned, against

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<v Speaker 1>a team that ended their season last year, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely on the mind. I'm sure that's mentioned.

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<v Speaker 3>I am sure it is.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know he has got a football team, as

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<v Speaker 4>John mentioned that, he has a certain style of play,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's going to look for everybody who's on the

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<v Speaker 4>field on Sunday to earn their right to come back

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<v Speaker 4>next year based on their effort. If you don't have

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<v Speaker 4>the wherewithal as a professional football player, even in what

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<v Speaker 4>is called a meaningless game, to play your best, then

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't want you on my team.

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<v Speaker 3>No coach would.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this is the old thing where a team in

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<v Speaker 5>it is playing a team out of it historically, and

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<v Speaker 5>I've always believed that the team that's in it needs

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<v Speaker 5>to get up in that game and make them play

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<v Speaker 5>like individuals more than a team. Meaning. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 5>players really quit, but sometimes when teams are out of it,

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<v Speaker 5>you can get them not playing their game at the

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<v Speaker 5>end of the season. And to me, that's the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 5>task this week. Make sure you play and get ahead

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<v Speaker 5>and give them that feeling of Hey, the cars are

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<v Speaker 5>in the parking lot, it's time to go home.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, then this game, in particular, if you get ahead,

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<v Speaker 4>the numbers say that they don't play their style right.

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<v Speaker 4>The Jags built a twenty seven to dozing lead in

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<v Speaker 4>the game here in November, and they didn't run Derrick

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<v Speaker 4>Henry but ten times.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think I offered this yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>But in games in that he's carried the ball seventeen

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<v Speaker 4>times or fewer, he only averages thirty seven yards a game,

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<v Speaker 4>now eighteen or more, it's one hundred and fourteen. You

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<v Speaker 4>give Derrick Henry a chance to get one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>fourteen yards on you, then you give them a good

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<v Speaker 4>chance to win. So you got to build a lead

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<v Speaker 4>and take their style of play away from them.

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<v Speaker 5>And something that would be I guess sting dust Brian's

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<v Speaker 5>We've been around forever. I think fans feel this too.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a chance to beat this franchise four times in

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<v Speaker 5>a row for the first time since the nineties. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a chance to clinch divisions two years in a row

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<v Speaker 5>against this team. I don't think about that that much

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<v Speaker 5>because I try to analyze the game sort of objectively,

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<v Speaker 5>if you will. But there are fans who would love that,

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<v Speaker 5>and this is the team the Jaguars hate. To establish

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<v Speaker 5>some dominance over that franchise and sort of turn that

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<v Speaker 5>tide and feel better. That'd be cool, That would be cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think Jem's ever beaten them four times in

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<v Speaker 3>a row.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they beat this franchise four times around the nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't recall it. I just did you do the

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<v Speaker 3>math on it?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, because they lost tho times in ninety eight or

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<v Speaker 5>ninety nine, from ninety six to ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 3>They lost. They lost here in ninety six.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we'll fact check it.

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<v Speaker 3>That has notten very often.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, fact that's what we're here for. We do want

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<v Speaker 1>to mention this is a turning of the tide for

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<v Speaker 1>that team. Right, So this most likely Ryan Tannehill and

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Henry's probably last game with this franchise. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>something Ryan Tannehill is not fully reflecting on yet. But

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<v Speaker 1>just he talked a little bit yesterday about the trying

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<v Speaker 1>season that this has been since he's been benched for

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<v Speaker 1>Will Levis and what he's kind of gone through to

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<v Speaker 1>be a good teammate.

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<v Speaker 9>I've tried to keep my head up and you know,

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<v Speaker 9>focus on the cards that they're handing me. You know,

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<v Speaker 9>some things are out of control and you can't help that,

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<v Speaker 9>but you can help you how you come to work,

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<v Speaker 9>how you respond, the attitude you bring into work. You know,

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<v Speaker 9>it was a lot of days where you know, I

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<v Speaker 9>didn't really want to come in and have a smile

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<v Speaker 9>on my face and try to help or or get

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<v Speaker 9>myself ready to go. But you know, I knew that

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<v Speaker 9>I was the best thing for my teammates, and I'm

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<v Speaker 9>not gonna throw a pity party for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian. It's been a changing of the guard there because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like they completely bottomed out. They had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of injuries last year and then now they drafted Levis.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to go with that now and so they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting rid of some of the players that they've had

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time, and it's kind of a change

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<v Speaker 1>without completely bottoming out, right, it's not like a complete rebuild,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're trying to rebuild. Well, they're trying to a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>And they are having to change their style of play

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<v Speaker 4>because if Derrick Henry is playing in his final game,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not going to be that ground and pound kind

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<v Speaker 4>of team that they have been. You know, Tannehill left

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<v Speaker 4>Miami in free agency and went to Tennessee in twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 4>and he had to consider a first round bust. He

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<v Speaker 4>had never done anything in Miami, but paired with Derrick

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<v Speaker 4>Henry and the power of play action when number twenty

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<v Speaker 4>two is slamming into the line of scrimmage. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>it gave him a couple of Pro Bowls and a

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<v Speaker 4>shot at a AFC championship.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's been a big part of what they've done.

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<v Speaker 4>And if I have any fear concern, worry, it's that

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<v Speaker 4>he and Derrick Henry play their best game in what's

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<v Speaker 4>their final game in Nashville and give these Jags and run.

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<v Speaker 3>For their money.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the difference when in your mind, John obviously

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Henay he's a game changer, but Ryan Tannell gave

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<v Speaker 1>them a little bit of stability at the time when

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<v Speaker 1>they were trying to like kind of figure things out

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of rebel going there.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, he played really well for a couple of years

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<v Speaker 5>and as Brian said it you there's different games, they

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<v Speaker 5>play out different ways, but overall he played very well

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<v Speaker 5>because teams had to stop Derrick Henry, and then when

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<v Speaker 5>Tannehill had a chance to beat them downfield, he could

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<v Speaker 5>make plays against the defenses that were drawn up stop

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<v Speaker 5>Derrick Henry. I think Brian said at best it was complimentary.

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<v Speaker 5>It was based on Henry and they needed a quarterback

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<v Speaker 5>who could be good enough to supplement that. He was

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<v Speaker 5>never a star. I don't think he was necessarily a

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<v Speaker 5>pro bowler or an elite guy, but there were games

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<v Speaker 5>where he played elite. When defenses rose to stop Derrick Henry.

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<v Speaker 5>He was more than good enough to have three hundred

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<v Speaker 5>yard games, multiple touchdown games, and they were a tick

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<v Speaker 5>or two away from win an AFC championships for a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of years with that formula. So it worked as long

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<v Speaker 5>as their offensive line was really, really good, and for

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<v Speaker 5>a while they were as good as any offensive line

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<v Speaker 5>in the league, just short of a couple of teams.

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<v Speaker 5>This year they're not, So that's really the biggest reason

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<v Speaker 5>for the fall of the last couple of years is

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<v Speaker 5>their line.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't underestimate teams playing for pride because I imagine

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<v Speaker 1>both of them are going to want to go out

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<v Speaker 1>on a high note as well, if in if indeed

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<v Speaker 1>this is their last game they're in Tennessee. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>stay well us, we're going to talk over some of

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<v Speaker 3>I have to give it to him.

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<v Speaker 1>He was right, This is right, right, right six and

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<v Speaker 1>the final show of the right.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I've forgotten about I've forgotten about again. They swept

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<v Speaker 4>him in ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd forgotten that, so I usually do.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm speechless.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk about this final game of the

0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:20.600
<v Speaker 1>regular season against the Titans. I hope it's as I

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<v Speaker 1>hope it lives up to the building. I hope it's

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<v Speaker 1>everything we want it to be. And I hope this

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<v Speaker 1>team really goes into the playoffs, earns their spot, and

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<v Speaker 1>uses this momentum going forward. It's going to take a

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<v Speaker 1>big effort from the whole team, really special teams. We

0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.000
<v Speaker 1>know this team is best when they play complimentary football.

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<v Speaker 1>So who's a name, who's particular, who you looking at

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be a game record.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going with Evan Ingram because and I'm making the

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<v Speaker 4>assumption that we will see Kirk and Jones on the field.

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<v Speaker 4>And last year Evan Ingram had a huge day two touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and sixty yards, eleven catches uh in Nashville,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just think he's primed playing so well right now.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's CJ.

0:19:56.000 --> 0:20:01.080
<v Speaker 4>Betherty already has and established rhythm with them. Trevor is

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<v Speaker 4>same thing. I think Evan is playing at an epic page.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd love to see him get twelve or thirteen and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe set the franchise record for a single season for catches,

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<v Speaker 4>which is one hundred and sixteen. But I'll take a

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<v Speaker 4>big game that gets him.

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<v Speaker 3>Into the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, when you look back, sometimes you don't see things immediately.

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<v Speaker 5>And had a huge game against Tennessee and the Shaq

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<v Speaker 5>Quorterman play turned that game. But the ability to depend

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<v Speaker 5>on Evan in that game enabled the Jaguars to get

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<v Speaker 5>out of an early hole and be the dominant team

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<v Speaker 5>in that game by the second half, and it really

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<v Speaker 5>sort of gave the Jaguars the confidence to move on

0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.480
<v Speaker 5>that season. So that was a huge performance. I went

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<v Speaker 5>with Christian Kirk. He will I think he will play,

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<v Speaker 5>and he won't be at one hundred percent, but I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know that he has to be. I think he'll

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<v Speaker 5>be managing the injury a little bit because he had

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<v Speaker 5>to be smart. But as I said earlier in the show,

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<v Speaker 5>than with Christian, he might this year be the key

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<v Speaker 5>to the whole thing if you can get him back.

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<v Speaker 5>Just think about the number of this offense hasn't been

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<v Speaker 5>what you expected to be this year, but when it's

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<v Speaker 5>been really good, he's been really important to play against

0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:27.040
<v Speaker 5>the game winner against the Saints, the Colts touchdown where

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<v Speaker 5>Trevor checked to him. There's been some moments and he

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<v Speaker 5>comes up, even though he's not a quote big play receiver, supposedly,

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<v Speaker 5>he comes up with big plays downfield and Trevor trust

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<v Speaker 5>him downfield. So he might be the key to the

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<v Speaker 5>whole thing moving forward.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, you talk about getting some guys back,

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<v Speaker 4>Kirk in particular, maybe he's a Jones what if you

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<v Speaker 4>get Ezra Cleveland back there with Cam Robinson, they haven't

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<v Speaker 4>had much time together, and it's clear that Cleveland is

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<v Speaker 4>your best option at left guard. What if he's able

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<v Speaker 4>to play into the playoffs with Cam next to him,

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<v Speaker 4>and Kirk and Jones and Trevor. Yeah, there's there's some

0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:01.720
<v Speaker 4>momentum you could build.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and weirder things have happened. Bucky Brooks keeps saying it,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's right. This AFC. I get the Baltimore's good.

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<v Speaker 5>Beyond that, I keep hearing all this stuff about, Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>Cleveland's so much better. Cleveland might be the second best

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<v Speaker 5>team in the AFC. Jaguars gave away so many opportunities

0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:24.160
<v Speaker 5>in that game. You're telling me they couldn't beat the Browns.

0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:26.200
<v Speaker 5>They couldn't be you know, I'm saying they'd be favored.

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<v Speaker 5>But you get in this year and you got a shot.

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<v Speaker 4>We can get some of those guys back, and you

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<v Speaker 4>play the Browns at home. Well, I like their chances.

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<v Speaker 4>And they turned the ball over four times and had

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<v Speaker 4>a quarterback on an ankle that didn't look like he

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<v Speaker 4>could walk, let alone play as he left the field

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<v Speaker 4>after that Bengals game, No, I like their chances against

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<v Speaker 4>the Browns. The Browns are a powerful team in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of their defense, But I take that no sweat you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know I'm doing right now. I'm reeling in until we

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<v Speaker 5>get this one on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I'm just saying, you get in go.

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<v Speaker 5>Really, Judgs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's still funny to me. I'm going defense because

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<v Speaker 1>as much as we watch the offense to come along

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about all year long, defense has has

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<v Speaker 1>far exceeded any expectations that I may have had for them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going with Josh Allen because big game, go

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<v Speaker 1>with your big players. He will will this team into

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. He got back on track last week, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna do it alone. He won't do it alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Trayvon and Josh are gonna do that meat at the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback game that they got going against the Panthers last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna continue doing that and in the process,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen, they end up being your sack leader this year,

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<v Speaker 1>which is funny for a lot of people that thought

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't sack the quarterbacks. So for them to have

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<v Speaker 1>the highest combo of two players with sacks this year

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<v Speaker 1>between Trayvon Walker and Josh Allen. I think they've I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if they've silenced anybody, but I've been impressed

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<v Speaker 1>with what they've been able to do. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to know what this team would look like if

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<v Speaker 1>if they weren't as productive as they've been so far

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<v Speaker 1>this season.

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<v Speaker 3>Number one in the NFL as a tandem, right, twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five and a half sacks.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll take it really good.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? This is our final Jagsam with the regular season,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully many more to come in the postseason. You will

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<v Speaker 1>see you next week after the final regular season finale.

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of you guys early. I apologize clearly I'm

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<v Speaker 1>upset about this being the final jag Exam of the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season. I did, but you'll be on Monday though.

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<v Speaker 3>Right we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a regular season because next week will we playoff weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>The way you think is obviously where I was going.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a moment and talk about Pro bowlers on

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<v Speaker 1>this team, because we did have that announcement yesterday. We

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<v Speaker 1>love the long snapper mentioned Ross Mattison. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>long snapper for the Pro Bowl games. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen, as I mentioned, having a career year. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a second Pro Bowl I believe crap. So obviously

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<v Speaker 1>some other people we probably thought should have made the cut.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Evan Ingram, right, I mean, eighth tight end in

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<v Speaker 4>NFL history to go over one hundred receptions.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I mean yes, that sounds crazy, but I think touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 5>Heard Evan in the voting, I think you should have

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<v Speaker 5>made it. I think it's strong argument could have could

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<v Speaker 5>have been made for Travis CTN. And I think if

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<v Speaker 5>people had really broken down Travis and seen how much

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<v Speaker 5>the Jaguars offensive line struggled in front of him at

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<v Speaker 5>times to have the year that he's having pretty impressive

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<v Speaker 5>eleven twelve touchdowns, So credit to him and other guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian well, as you say, maybe we'll you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>haven't seen the alternate list. I mean, maybe these guys

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<v Speaker 4>will get some recognition on that. Darius Williams was one

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<v Speaker 4>of the leaders all season long in terms of passes

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<v Speaker 4>broken up, I mean he might get some too, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Your guy for you know. So, yeah, there were a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of a lot of deserving guys. I think they'd

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<v Speaker 5>have had more, honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>The swoon, the losing straight definitely when.

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<v Speaker 5>They were on Prime time twice, I think that probably unfairly,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's not a fair system. Probably cost them some

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<v Speaker 5>momentum with some guys who I think got close. And

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes the voting process is where the fans are part

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<v Speaker 5>of it. The players vote for it, which I get,

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<v Speaker 5>but a lot of times players their votes are very

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<v Speaker 5>they get in kind of groups in there. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I wish there was a better system for the Pro Bowl,

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<v Speaker 5>but I don't know that there is a better one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we'll see. I think some of the alternate names

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<v Speaker 1>will come out a little bit later, so hopefully some

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<v Speaker 1>more Jaguars will be involved in that. And now for real,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the end of our show. We hope you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed them. Sure, I think I'm right this time. Enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the Titans game. We'll see you next week. You're in

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<v Speaker 1>Taxam