1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Well, come on everybody to Wednesday edition of Texans All Access. 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: So glad to be with you, John Harris, Mark VanderMeer 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: and Mark. We have got a lot to hit tonight. 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: In our next segment, we're gonna call We're gonna play 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: a new game called Caserio scenarios like this. You get 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: the grade the scenario as it pertains to what the 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: Texans do with the first couple picks in the draft. 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: So if I don't give it a good grade and 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Nick ends up doing this scenario, I'm gonna have to 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 1: answer to Nick. Yeah, you're gonna have to answer. Yeah, 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: that's just kind of the way it kind of goes. 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: I would bet that he would do something better than 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: I would much of the time, maybe all of the time. 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: Do you think Nick will like my trade with Atlanta? 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's actually been discussed. You never know, could be, 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: could be We're gonna find out, you never know. And 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: I like the way you held Texans All Access. I 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: was wondering how long you're gonna hold that. I'm gonna 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: hold it from from now on. I'm gonna hold it 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: a lot a lot longer. Hey, Christopher mad Dog rouso 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: here and I'm everybody, but it's a really good Russo. Yeah. 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: I used to listen to them when I lived in 23 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: the Actually I lived in Massachusetts and I could pick 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: up their station out of New York when I lived 25 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: up there a thousand years ago. When he was on 26 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: with Mike and the Mad Dog, I met the last 27 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: superl the Patriots went over the Falcons I met. I 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: met him. Couldn't have been nicer, couldn't have been more understated, 29 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: completely different than what he is on the radio. I 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: was different than it wasn't at least when I met him. 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: I was on with them a couple of times. One 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: time it was preview in the NCAA tournament. I was 33 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: working with Westwood one and they were actually doing a 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: pregame show because it was on fa ANN and they 35 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: wanted them to do it, and it was just kind 36 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: of strange, and they're like, all right, let's go out 37 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: to the Palace at Auburn Hills now and Mark Vandamer's 38 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: calling the games out there today. Mark when he got 39 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: was it Mad Dog Aunt was Yeah, Mike Francesa and 40 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: Chris Russo. And I was kind of nervous, I got 41 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: to admit, because I think and I've said this many times. 42 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: When you're in our business, anybody you were a fan 43 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: of before or you were in the business, that tends 44 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: to get you a little riled up, gets you excited, 45 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: right Like when I met doctor Jay for the first time, 46 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: actually the only time I ever met Doctor Jay, I 47 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: was kind of nervous meeting doctor Jay. Heck, yeah, I 48 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: gotta admit, first time I did radio with you was 49 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: a little bit overwhelmed. Boy, I gotta admit. I mean 50 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: I knew you a little bit, but I remember it 51 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 1: was right in that room next door, and we had decided, 52 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: we had decided that we were gonna go forth with me, 53 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: and we're like, hey, let's do some radio. We got 54 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: all Access tonight. And I remember you teasing it, and 55 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: Sean Pendergast was like on Twitter, like, man, what's the 56 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: tease that Texan was like, Oh, no, it's just me 57 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: joining the Texans. He goes, that's huge, and I was like, oh, 58 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: but you and I were doing radio for the first time. 59 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, all right, that's a couple of 60 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: regular joes talking about one of the greatest Texans there's 61 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: ever bank calling it quits today, Whitney Merciless drafted in 62 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: twenty twelve, the twenty fifth, the twenty six pick. We 63 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: this is a draft season and I've been coming to 64 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: draft for a long time. Whitney was in here one day, 65 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: Mark and I read him my draft report on him. 66 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: I read him the draft report I did. Yes, well, 67 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: I must have been a good one, because you're not 68 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: gonna read Dwayne's draft report on him. Okay, to tease 69 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: you about that one. That's all right, that's all right. 70 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: I gotta I got shit to catch up with Dwayne 71 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: after the Seattle game. It was cool. He's Dwayne and 72 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: I have I think we have a good relationship. He 73 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: will always have that over me, Like he's sitting here. 74 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 1: He needed me like, yeah, I turn it a little 75 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: better than your thought. Huh yeah, A little bit at 76 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: b with Whitney, I went back and I looked at 77 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: what I wrote. I'm like, holy smoke. So I read 78 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: it to him, and you know how Whitney would get 79 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: when you talk to him, he get really excited. I 80 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: got done in His eyes got really big and he's like, yo, 81 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: you hit that perfectly. So I felt I felt validated 82 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: in that moment, and it really, it really came too. 83 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: He came out of Illinois as a hand down in 84 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: the dirt pass rusher. He learned to stand up. He 85 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: learned to play from a stand up position and rush 86 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Then he became a dominant force against the run. 87 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: And then he put it all together for a couple 88 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: of years, in particular in twenty fifteen to twenty sixteen, 89 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: when he was just he was He was phenomenal in 90 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: those in those particular years. And you and I were 91 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: talking earlier today and you can't fly in the studio, 92 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, top five Whitney plays, and 93 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: we started kind of talking through them, and all of 94 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: a sudden, I was like, wow, okay, there's a lot 95 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: more here than There's a lot more here than I 96 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: at first glance. Remember then I walked out of studio, 97 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: then went down to get a water, and I'm like, 98 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: oh man, what about this play? What plays stand out 99 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: in your mind about Whitney merciless? You know, the first 100 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: one that jumped out to me was fumble recovery against 101 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: the Colts and Andy twenty sixteen. Oh yeah, Andrew luckin company. 102 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: They're about to score, right, yeah, the Texans actually get 103 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: the ball out with Clowney stripping but Whitney recovering. And 104 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: you pointed out when we were discussing this, how that 105 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: was a better that wasn't just a room service fumble recovery. 106 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: He had to go get it with some adversity and 107 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: he was able to get it, and the Texans got 108 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: the ball and they went on a field goal drive, 109 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: which in that game was saying something because it was 110 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: a low scoring game, and the fact that you stopped 111 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: them at the goal line and you got a field 112 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: goal on the ensuing drive after the takeaway was huge 113 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: in that particular game. And the Texans swept the Colts 114 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: that year. That was really nice. So I think that 115 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: game stands out to me quite a bit. That moment, really, 116 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: even though that wasn't maybe degree of difficulty is best play. 117 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: I think about the weird ones, the Firkser Carum pick 118 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: against the Titans in twenty nineteen to run it back 119 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: into scoring range. Couldn't go all the way, he could 120 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: not go all the way, but he went a long way, 121 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: and that obviously turned that game around because that game 122 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: was about to go south on the Texans and they 123 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: needed that one badly. And then the only other one 124 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: I'll mention here. I mean there are many more, and 125 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: I know you've got some. But the weird bounce up 126 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: whose foot did it him? Bortles hit Whitney's. There was 127 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: no it was the running back. It was um the 128 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: guy from Alabama, T J. Yelden, all right, So he 129 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: held Yeldon's foot, yeah, and Whitney picks it up. It 130 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: popped up in the air and he grabbed it. So 131 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: it's a pick, yeah off or I did it go backwards? 132 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what they called it. It It was supposed 133 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: to be a pick. I mean it looked like a pick, 134 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: but I think because it went backwards, it ended up 135 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: being a fumble. So when he didn't get credit for 136 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: the interception, and he didn't get his first interception until 137 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: the one you mentioned, uh in Tennessee in twenty No, 138 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: I take it back. His first interception came Agains Drew 139 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: Brees was Monday night twenty nineteen, and that No, but 140 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: he had picks before that show. No, he did not. 141 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: Are you sure positive I'm going back that look back, 142 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: I promise you, because as you're looking his because I 143 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: remember there was a it was a big deal about 144 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: that because I was twenty ye. You're right, you're right, 145 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: You're right, You're right now. I know right because I 146 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: remember him having the interception and he was, Oh my gosh, 147 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: that that game, that Monday night game. I was actually 148 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: talking about that last night with my guys that are 149 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 1: Locked On Locked On the podcast, Eric Crocker and Ryan Tracy, 150 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: and we were talking before we got on. We were 151 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: talking about the Texans and we were talking about how 152 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: noisy it got in certain places, and so I was 153 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: going back over that. I think the noisiest I've ever 154 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: heard it was that night against the Saints at the 155 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: end when Lutz hit that field goal. I don't think 156 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: I've ever heard anything. When I took the headphones off, 157 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, my head was pounding. It 158 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: was so loud. But when he gets interception against Drew Brees, 159 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 1: and I remember thinking, man, this is a great comeback, 160 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: this is awesome. I think Whitney was my player of 161 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: the game. So Whitney had you had to come out 162 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: to do an interview with me post game, and I 163 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: remember saying, I'm you know, first interception in his response 164 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: was yeah, bittersweet. And then later he gets the interception 165 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: off the Cara, I'm off of Firkser against Tennessee. So 166 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: he had two in that particular year, which is kind 167 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: of amazing when you think the next year we only 168 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: had three interceptions total, and he hit two of them 169 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: in twenty and twenty nineteen. But to me, the turning 170 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: point for Whitney I thought happened week It was fifteen, 171 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: so it was the game right before the bye. So 172 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: it's what week eight? I think it was week eight, 173 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: and we're two and five and just coming off the 174 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: Miami game. Remember that, come out the Miami game. It's 175 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: just brutal, right, everything he could go wrong went wrong. 176 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: I was forty one and nothing and a half. Arian 177 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: gets hurt. Now it was late getting to the plane. 178 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: Obi wanted to cut him before the game. Rick would 179 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: let him. There's all kinds of stuff. Now it then 180 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: gets elect I mean, it's a it's a it's a nightmare. 181 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: Tennessee's on the schedule next at home, and I remember 182 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: early in the game, Tennessee tried to run at Whitney 183 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: and it was down in the in the north end 184 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: zone or near the north end zone, and I'm telling you, 185 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: Whitney took the head off the right tackle. I don't 186 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: remember who it was, just I mean cool, just shocked him, 187 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: shed him and made a tackle for loss. I remember 188 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: thinking Whitney wasn't doing that in twenty thirteen or even 189 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: as a rookie, and I remember Vrabel doing so much 190 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: work with him and Whitney just staying after its got 191 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: his confidence got a little shaken. But he really flourished 192 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: under Fabel and fourteen was a good year. But fifteen, 193 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: that game against Tennessee when we needed it, he went 194 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: off and he had that play and then I was like, Okay, 195 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: hopefully that opens things up for Whitney, and then it 196 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: did three and a half sacks that day. He also 197 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: he had a four. He had another one but it 198 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: got called back because he had gotten the top of 199 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: Maryo his helmet and so they called it like face mask. 200 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: I think they called a face mask. I don't know 201 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: what the official, but he grabbed the top of his 202 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: helmet as he was bringing him down. That would have 203 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: been a record, that would have been four and a 204 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: half in a game, but he ended up with three 205 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: and a half that game and we ended up winning 206 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: that game. Not something grandios, but it was like twenty 207 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: to six or something, but it was enough to turning around. 208 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: We wanted to him by week Then we went to 209 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: Cincinnati on the Monday night and the rest of his history, 210 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: and then we ended up running the running the table. 211 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: And I remember Whitney having that game against Tennessee and 212 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: then he and Watt. This one will stand in my 213 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: mind forever. He and Watt twenty fifteen. End of the season. 214 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: Gotta have a win over Jacksonville. And it's one of 215 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: the greatest defensive performance I've seen this team have when 216 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: they came on the field. That was the year obviously 217 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: offensively challenged. I didn't really want to watch the offense 218 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: come in the field. When the defense came on the field, 219 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: it was the most exciting thing ever. I wanted to 220 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: see what they were about to do. Because Bortles he 221 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: had no clue, he had no idea, and Whitney and 222 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: Watt are just spinning and ripping and getting after it. 223 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: And I want to say they combined for seven that day. 224 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: Two could some number. They just went They went nuts 225 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: that day. But that that game Whitney had against the 226 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: Titans in Week eight that got us to three and five. 227 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: He was a major reason for that and that win 228 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: obviously got things going again in the other direction. Well, 229 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: you mentioned those two years being the years where he 230 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: really got out broke out fifteen sixteen when they finished 231 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: number one in the league in total defense, despite the 232 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: fact that what gets hurt Week three at New England 233 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: and Clowney and Whitney are dealing for the rest of 234 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: the year and you win the Monday night game. Well, 235 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: the year before you wanted ten to six, but you 236 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: want a lot of low scoring games. In twenty sixteen 237 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: as well, we talked about winning at Jacksonville when brock 238 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: Oswiler has ninety nine passing yards. That's when Whitney had 239 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: that caram off the foot that was actually a fumble 240 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: recovery instead of a pick, but he got it out 241 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: of the year, I guess. And there were some other 242 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: ones as well that year that were low scoring wins, 243 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: and including the one at Indianapolis. We talked about that play, 244 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: so I'll always remember him for that. I remember Draft night. 245 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: You mentioned it's draft season. He dropped a little bit. 246 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: Texans were able to get him ncaa sack leader. That 247 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: was awesome to be to pick him up that night. 248 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: I remember its first preseason game at Carolina making plays 249 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: and thinking, Okay, here we go, because it was weird 250 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: to see fifty nine on the field. Fifty nine was 251 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: Demiko Ryot's number. He had just left after the twenty 252 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: eleventh season. And here comes the new guy, first round 253 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: draft choice, and he's wearing fifty nine. It's kind of 254 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: like the way they've passed around ninety a little bit. 255 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: And by the way, I mentioned this in our meeting, 256 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: but I saw a ninety jersey and I was thinking, oh, 257 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: this is gonna be like Mario Williams. You watch it's 258 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: a really old jersey. I mean I saw it from 259 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of a distance, so I couldn't tell, 260 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: and I thought it's probably Mario Williams. And then I thought, 261 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: oh no, it's probably Clowney and it's Ross Blacklock and 262 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, good, okay, tied his turning. Here let's go. 263 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: But that ninety has been worn by some people in 264 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: fifty nine. Will you know. Look, it's Whitney's number, it's 265 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: Demiko's number. I know that. Wait, who wore it last year? Eric? 266 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: Eric Wilson, Yes, household name, Eric Wilson. Sorry Eric, but 267 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see how it goes. From here. But 268 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting to me how that number was passed 269 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: from Demko to Whitney, who wore it so well and 270 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: played here for almost a decade. I think two plays 271 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: to me, we'll also stand out. We talked about these 272 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: a little bit, but everybody remembers fifteen sixteen like those 273 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: are the two years, like it was phenomenal. Seventeen gets 274 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: hurt and that Sunday night game, in fact, he got 275 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: hurt I think three plays before what did so we 276 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: lost with Wear and Watt within five to six plays 277 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: of one another, and it was just brutal. So when 278 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: Witt came back in eighteen, they finally had the Clowney. 279 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: That Watt and they Immerciless all healthy and Clowney had 280 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: some flashes. Why had a good year. I don't know 281 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: if it's the greatest year, but it was a good year. 282 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: And when he sort of was odd man out, he 283 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: was doing a lot of droppingyway at four sacks. We 284 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: came back in twenty nineteen, obviously there's no Clowney, so 285 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: now it's it's Watt and Merciless. And in the Week 286 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: three win out at Los Angeles, the Chargers had a 287 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: lead in that game, we'd partially given it to him, 288 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: but they had a lead. In that game. We were 289 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: making acids, had just caught a touchdown pass, and so 290 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: it was getting closer. But the Chargers were marching on 291 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: down and it was a third down and Rivers tried 292 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: to scramble and wit popped it out. Zach Cunningham fell 293 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: on the ball. They went down and we went down 294 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: to score and took the lead, I think twenty to seventeen, 295 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: and and didn't look back. Then later in the playoff 296 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: game against Buffalo, it's sixteen to eight and Josh Allen 297 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: starts scrambling and I'm telling you Whitney got Of course, 298 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: there were all kinds of jokes about Whitney's nine and 299 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: a half fingers because one of his fingers he had 300 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: he lost in a game or something like that. He 301 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: gets a couple of fingers on the ball and pops 302 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: it out of Josh Allen. It's sixteen to eight. The 303 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: momentum has just, you know, wackets, the sack go down, 304 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: scoring get to two. It's sixteen to eight. You're like, okay, 305 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: it's still a one score game. Technically speaking, it's a 306 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: one score game, and put the bills out of the 307 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: ball and oh no, here goes Josh Allen scrambling and 308 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: Whitney pops it out, pops right in hands at Jacob 309 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: Martin didn't score touchdown, but when got a fuel goal. 310 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: So now at sixteen eleven, so you're like, hey, look man, 311 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: one more fluky play like that, one more play like that, 312 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: and we are sitting exactly where we want to be 313 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: with this thing. And then got to stop, got the 314 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: ball back, scored. God doesn't get talked about you talking 315 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: about talk about We talk about the wat sack, We 316 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: talk about Watson bringing people with him into the end zone. Obviously, 317 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: the play to Taiwan Jones. We talk about that, the 318 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: fair baron field goal, which was a short range field. 319 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: That's a huge talk Enough about that Whitney strip sack. Yeah, game, 320 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: it's a huge play. I mean we even mentioned if 321 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: you if you talk about a sack that's not Jaj's. 322 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: Oh Jacob Martin sack with like a minute and a half, 323 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: that's that should have sealed it if the Texas could 324 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: have gotten the first down. I don't mention the one 325 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: that actually got them the ball back and led to 326 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: three points. That was that was a massive one, and 327 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: we were talking about it. Initially you were like, wait 328 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: he had at I said, yeah, there was a big block. 329 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: I can see it, the ball popping out and Jacob 330 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: Martin catching it. And as soon as Jacob got it, 331 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: you got drilled by somebody, but didn't matter. You got 332 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: the ball back. That was a massive play from Whitney 333 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. You know, it's funny because what happened 334 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: after that? What do you get a field goal not 335 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: a touchdown? Right? So I was thinking at the time, 336 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: all right, you didn't tie the game or get a 337 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: chance to, but at least you got the points where 338 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: when you get your touchdown, you're ahead. You don't have 339 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: to worry about going for two. You already got that 340 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: out of the way. You're gonna get the lead if 341 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: you get a touchdown. But Buffalo, what makes that a 342 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: great game is that Huffalo comes back. They punch back 343 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: with the field goal to send it into overtime. And 344 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that made that a great 345 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: playoff game. It was collige. I don't know how I 346 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: survived that stress that night. I don't know anybody did, 347 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: oh any of us did. That was that game was 348 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: completely and totally crazy. Remember Josh Allen running down field 349 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: and like flipping the ball back to one of his teammates. 350 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: It's like, what, Josh, yet, he was wyoming Josh point right, 351 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, he was wyoming Josh. Oh my gosh. So Whitney, 352 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: I think you know, when you look at his history here, 353 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy who played a decade. He 354 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: made a lot of plays. Like we just said, the 355 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: work in the community, all right, Walter Payton Man of 356 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: the Year nominee, all that stuff, the business aspects of 357 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: what he did as well, the way he handled himself 358 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: from the get go. I mean, Whitney, being around sponsors, partners, 359 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: season ticket members, you couldn't represent the organization better. He 360 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: was just a joy to be around and have around 361 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: with this organization. So I think that'll stand out as well. Johnny. 362 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: The off field stuff stands out almost as much. We 363 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: had him at the Fuddruckers Shows an awful lot every year, 364 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: just doing fun things, talking about different things, different aspects 365 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: of life and football. So I'll always be grateful to 366 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: him for all of that, and I just hope that 367 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 1: the relationship keeps growing and going forward where he can 368 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: be a Texans legend, and that's what it's called. Folks 369 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: at the legends committed. He it's an NFL branded thing, 370 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: and I just want him to to be around for 371 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, I'm with you on that. Absolutely. He was. 372 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: He was always gracious with his time. He man. There 373 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: would be times I remember seeing him in training camp 374 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: at twenty fourteen and you could just tell he was 375 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: he was down. They drafted clown, he climbing, was supposed 376 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: to be the guy, and you could tell his confidence 377 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: taking hit. And of course Rabel was just on them constantly, 378 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: and Whitney took a lot of that barrage, but he 379 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: turned it around and became became that guy. So when 380 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: you think about making a draft pick at number twenty 381 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: five or twenty six, whatever it was for Whitney, and 382 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: you think you're gonna get you're gonna get ten pretty 383 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 1: solid years out of a draft pick that you get 384 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: late in the first round. I think Whitney's the epitome 385 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: of this is what you'd at a minimum like like 386 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: to get through. Look, would you like to get a 387 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, Sure of course, But when you look 388 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: back and you grade the twenty twelve draft, you'll go, yeah, Whitney, 389 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: way more than a lot of guys at them. What's 390 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: interesting to me is everybody wants to have first rounders. 391 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: You'd like to get those back in the first round 392 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: because playoff teams get those picks. The Texans were coming 393 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: off a playoff season and they got a guy that 394 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: they probably shouldn't have gotten. He probably should have gone earlier, 395 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: but yet when they got him and brought him in here, 396 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: he ended up being worth worth everything that you would 397 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: want a late first round pick to be. And like 398 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: you said, he hit every aspect of this organization on 399 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: the field, off the field, he was just he was 400 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: just absolutely tremendous. All Right, when we get back, we're 401 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: gonna talk about the first round and we're gonna play 402 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: grade the scenario. I'm gonna present scenarios to Mark vander 403 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: Meer of what the Texans should do with three and thirteen, 404 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: Not so much what they should do, but what they 405 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: do with it. I'll present about four or five options. 406 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: It will see which one he grades as the best. 407 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: That's next on Texans All Access because some Texans All Access, 408 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: because some Texans All Access. It is a Draft Wednesday 409 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access. I'm John, he's Mark, and 410 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: it's time to jump into the draft with something I 411 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: called grade the scenario. Now, Mark, I will give you 412 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: the option grade it on a scale of one to ten, 413 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: or you can grade it on a through f. It's 414 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: completely up to you how you would like to grade. 415 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: As a former teacher, I always liked a number grade, 416 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: but I did one through a hundred. So I did that. 417 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: You can go one through hundred. It's up to you. 418 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: It's your grading scale. Okay, I'm gonna present to you 419 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: what the Texans will do with their first round, not 420 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: just three and thirteen, but what they might do in 421 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: the first round then encapsulates three and thirteen. It may 422 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: not there might be some other things going in here. 423 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: We go, all right, number one, straight up, make the 424 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: picks at three and thirteen, and the Texans end up 425 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: with NC State offensive lineman Ikey Aquanu and at thirteen 426 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: Georgia's massive defensive tackle Jordan Davis. Grade the scenario. I 427 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: like it. I don't think that the pick of an 428 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: old lineman at number three is sexy, but Nick Cassario 429 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: is not into I want to make this a sexy pick. 430 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: So everyone at Miller outdoor theater screams the loudest they 431 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: possibly could. That is not the goal here. The goal 432 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: is the long term health of the football team and 433 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: whatever short term pop you can get out of it. 434 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: But you're looking at the long haul here. So you 435 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: get Jordan Davis, Johnny, who's my vander mock pick at thirteen? 436 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: Do you remember anybody from anybody from Georgia? So Jordan Davis, 437 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: anybody from Georgia? Right? And I get the old lineman 438 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: at third overall, But in this scenario, can you share 439 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: with me who the Jags took and who Detroit took? Please? Oh? Well, 440 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: you're throwing that in, yeah, because if I'm in a 441 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: grade one did at three? I want to see who 442 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: i'm Jack Stout takes Aidan Hutchinson, Okay, Detroit takes Trayvon Walker. 443 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: Where did Hamilton go? In this? Hamilton? I don't have 444 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: to take Hamilton at three all of a sudden because 445 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: the stock has dropped, although I don't know if Nick would. 446 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: Hamilton is taken by the Jets at ten. Okay, I'm 447 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: all right with this. If they deem that they need 448 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: help up front and that's the best way to go, 449 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: and that's what you want to do with number three, 450 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: and it's not a trade down. I'm okay with it. 451 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: I will give it, Johnny, I will give that a 452 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: Draft Night grade of ninety one. Okay, good, I like it. 453 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing about that too, and the reason 454 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: I picked those two players. I feel like even just 455 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: a couple of players coming in that have a mindset 456 00:22:53,840 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: of being physically dominant, I think can have ramifications through 457 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: your whole team, even if they're rookies, and Aquanu and 458 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: Davis can physically physically dominate even grown men, and I 459 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: think that will have an impact. And so there's part 460 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: of the reason for using those two because I think 461 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: those two help set a tone of what you want 462 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: to be. You want to be a physical football team. 463 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: That's what I would think a love Me Smith team 464 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: wants to be. Is're gonna we're gonna drive you in 465 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: the dirt, and I think these two guys help do that. Okay, 466 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: number two scenario you already know this one. Texans trade 467 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: with Atlanta pick up a second, a third, and a third. 468 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: Next year, they end up drafting Kyle Hamilton at thirteen. 469 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: Cavon Thibadeau falls to them. Grade the scenario from my 470 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: mock draft. I feel like, and we discussed this the 471 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: other night, like this is more of an eighty four 472 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: because of Thibodau. Yeah, you just don't think he's gonna 473 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: be there. I don't think he's gonna be there. And 474 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: I think if he drops, and look, that's not a 475 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: free fall, all right, Going to thirteen is not catastrophic, right, 476 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: you know that's not Aaron Rodgers, which wasn't catastrophic. It 477 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: worked out pretty well for him. Actually, other free falls. 478 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean remember Patrick Mahomes when at tennant and Shaw 479 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: Watson won at twelve, right, So but I feel like 480 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: considering where he was now this is all media speak 481 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: and pundit stuff, but I feel like there might be 482 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: a better option at thirteen. Oh wait, wait, where where 483 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: am I picking up? Where am I picking Thibodeau? There? 484 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: You would be picking eight and thirteen? So yeah, eight thirteen? Yeah? 485 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: Because eight, Okay, I'm gonna say that that might be 486 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: the one that's not going to work out as well 487 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: projected to not work out as well as some of 488 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: the other players who might have been available, even though 489 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: I have no idea who that is now, because you 490 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: haven't set it up. So there. Okay, give me notables 491 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: I missed out on at thirteen while picking Thibodeau. Okay, um, 492 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: not the single amount because he might be tremendous. Jermaine 493 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: Johnson was the very next pick. He was the he 494 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: was the very next pick. I like Jermaine Johnson. I 495 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: don't have Jamay Johnson ahead of cabe On Thibodeau overall. 496 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: Um man I think, Man, I think if I get 497 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: Tibodeau at thirteen, I'm I think I'm gonna do it. 498 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: And you know why why? Two words Lovey and Smith. 499 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: I feel like there is a built in respect for 500 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 1: Lovey Smith. When I heard some draft prospects at the 501 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: Draft and they were asked about the Texans, Yeah, I 502 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: had a good conversation with Loveye Smith. I feel like 503 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: there is this respect for Lovey Yea even in the 504 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: younger community, like they get it now. Part of it 505 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: is Lovey recruited some of these guys, so he's got 506 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: a connection there. I don't know the recruited Timideaux. But 507 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: point being, I think love he carries that weight with 508 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: some guys that you know, look, cavan Is, he is um, 509 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: he's a he's a Braggadocio. I mean he likes to 510 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: tell everybody how great he is. I mean I think 511 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: Lovey would be a great balance for him. So I 512 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: think Lobby Smith could play a role in that. But 513 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: Jamaine Johnson was after him, George Carlotas from Purdue is 514 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: after him. I'm trying to think if there is, oh, 515 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: Devin Woyd, Now that's what I would think about, is 516 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: Devin Woyd the linebacker. I love this guy, but who 517 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: would who would love? He love more? Right there? In 518 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: your scenario where you trade with Atlanta and you think, 519 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: I think, I think edge Rusher would carry, would carry 520 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: the dead? Yeah, And I think that Nick, It's gonna 521 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: be interesting to see how And we'll never know the 522 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: whole true is nothing but the truth, because I can 523 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: tell you stories about Texans past, but we still don't 524 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: know exactly. You know, J J. Wat whose idea was that? Really? 525 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: But look, Rick is the man who can say no. 526 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: And he pulled the trigger, he pulls the lever, and 527 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna take the heat if it doesn't work out right, 528 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: And the same thing goes for Nick. But how much 529 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: influence will Lovey have on this draft? Yes? Exactly, exactly 530 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: if Lovey wants to stand on a table for Thibodeau 531 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: and Nick is like, well, it could be a hammer, 532 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, between Thibodeau and two or three other guys. 533 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: Nick is gonna pick, I would think, especially if it's 534 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 1: close who love he really feels compelled to have, right, Yeah, 535 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: don't you think so, unless it's like ridiculous or it's 536 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: just too far apart the value the way we have 537 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: them raided, No, not gonna work. So that'll be interesting 538 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: to evaluate after and it'll all be speculation, all right. 539 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: Grade the scenario. The New Orleans Saints call on draft night, 540 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: they've already been talking. They tell Nick, look, we're giving 541 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: you sixteen and nineteen. Yeah, you keep thirteen, sixteen, and 542 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: nineteen to go up to number three. Nick says, I'll 543 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: take sixteen and nineteen, but I want a little bit more. 544 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: Mickey Leumis says, yes, we want to go up and 545 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: get a quarterback. The Texans are then drafting at thirteen, sixteen, 546 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: and nineteen. They've got three picks in the first round. 547 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: Just that scenario. Grade that scenario. I'm not telling you 548 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: who the players are. They don't know who the players 549 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: would be at that point. Who or a grade that 550 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: scenario the Texans making the deal with the New Orleans 551 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: Saints and ending up with thirteen, sixteen, and nineteen in 552 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: the first round. Three First. I know Gordon get Go 553 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: said greed is good, but I feel greedy now saying 554 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: this that I want my number three overall pick back 555 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: instead of that scenario. Because we've talked about this. If 556 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: you have three first round picks, they're all gonna come 557 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: do at the same time for big contracts if you 558 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: hit on all three. The thing I do like about 559 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: it is you're not going to hit on all three. 560 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: You're just not. The odds are two out of three. 561 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: You've done very well here and it's a guys just 562 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: pretty good, okay, but you're probably not going to have 563 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: him around for a second contract unless it's mutually agreed that. Look, 564 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: I want to stay here, I want to stay home, 565 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, and I'll take whatever money 566 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: you've got coming to me, or you franchise them. I 567 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: don't know how that would play out. I would think 568 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: that Nick wouldn't want this. So I'm going to give 569 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: that an eighty two. Eighty two because I lost and 570 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: lost the number three overall pick and I would imagine 571 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: that I got a bag of groceries along with those 572 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: two picks to drop down. Yeah, you would get a 573 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: New Orleans third next year. That's a lot. That's a 574 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: lot for them to give up to move up to 575 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: the number three. Overall, they must think that Willis is 576 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: going to be pursued hot and heavy, and there's no 577 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: one else to make a deal with, because they could 578 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: go call Detroit and try to make that deal, but 579 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: Detroit's in love with Hutchinson, so they don't want to 580 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: do it. They could call the Giants. Giants might now 581 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: want to do it. This is gonna be very interesting. Okay. 582 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: Handful of teams have had three picks in the draft. Yeah, 583 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: to your point, the New York Giants in twenty nineteen 584 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: drafted Daniel Jones, Dexter Lawrence, and cornerback DeAndre Baker. One 585 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: I think is solid. Lawrence, Baker was a bust completely 586 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: and then Jones is the fifty fifty at best, Johnny 587 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: Is It's a coin flip at best. That Raiders. Raiders 588 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen drafted Cleveland Farrell kind of a bust 589 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: right now. Josh Jacobs solid, very solid, Jonathan Abram bust. Gosh, 590 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: this hurts a lot. The Browns, with three draft picks 591 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, drafted Miles Garrett David and Joku Nice 592 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: Jabrill Peppers. At the time, it looked really good. The time, 593 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: I still have found I have yet to find one 594 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: where I go, Oh, yeah, they hit on all three. 595 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard. It's it's just not now. When 596 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: Lovey was in When Lovey was in Saint Louis in 597 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and one, the Rams had three first round pigs. Well, 598 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: I gotta hear this. They drafted defensive lineman. Oh yeah, 599 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: here we go. The Green did sent the twelfth overall pick, 600 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: defensive end Damian Lewis University of Miami, Adam Archiletta, Oh, 601 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: and Ryan Pickett, big Grease. Oh I missed Grease. That 602 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: was That wasn't a bad haul, No, not at all, 603 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: not a bad haul at all. I mean, that's that's 604 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: a pretty good And I was in two thousand and one. 605 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 1: And then he had the Vikings in twenty and thirteen. 606 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: They went to the Super Bowl that year but lost. 607 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: The Vikings picked Sharif Floyd end up beating a bust 608 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: uh Xavier Rhodes okay, and then Rick Spielman draft went 609 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: back into the first round, sent four picks to the Patriots. 610 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, to go back into round one for Cordello. 611 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: Pattern didn't work out for them in Minnesota. Didn't know, 612 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: and ironically CP worked out in New England. Is he 613 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: a first round talent? Though at the well Patterson never 614 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: read a position. Yeah, they should have been playing for 615 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: running back a jump, but I don't know that. That's 616 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: a tough one. He's a weapons. You call him a weapon, 617 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: just like when you have college recruiting and some guys 618 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: are athletes. Yeah, I called weapon X. That'd be a weapon. Yeah, 619 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: that's what I usually call those guys weapon X. But 620 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: what they were looking for was a replacement for Percy Harvon. 621 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: Percy had been traded in Seattle and they needed something, 622 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: and so they went got Cordarol Patterson. So that leads 623 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: me to scenario is number four okay, and using the 624 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: Vikings as a guide, the Texans trade they draft three 625 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: and thirteen. Don't make any deals. Three and thirteen. You're 626 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: not gonna give you the picks, and let's go Jermaine 627 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: Johnson good and they call the Chiefs they see somebody 628 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the first round out and that player, 629 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: now it gets complicated. That player is David Ojabo from 630 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: Michigan who tours Achilles at Pro Day in March. The 631 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: scenario is Drafty Kwanu and Jermaine Johnson and then move 632 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: up into the first round to get David Ojabo, red 633 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: shirt him, and bring him back the following year fully healthy. 634 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: Grade The scenario, what am I giving up to move 635 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: into the first round from pick thirty seven. You're going 636 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: from thirty seven to twenty nine. You're giving up pick 637 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: one oh seven. I don't you're giving up one of 638 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: your fours. Listen, I'm into instant gratification here. I don't 639 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: like waiting. Waiting is no fun. My kid has a book. 640 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: It's the Child and Piggy Book. Waiting is not Easy 641 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, he still likes to read 642 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: it every once in a while and it's good for 643 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: his patients. Waiting is not fun, Johnny. So I don't 644 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: like waiting around for the better part of a year, 645 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: if not an entire year first round draft choice. That means, look, 646 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: if you don't take him right there, you're telling me 647 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: that you can't get him at thirty seven, someone else 648 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: is gonna grab him. Is it really worth it? You 649 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: gotta pay him anyway, right, You're paying him first round 650 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: money this year to rehab. You believe in him that much, 651 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: you love him that much that you're not willing to 652 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: risk the fall. And there's nobody else you can pick 653 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: up in the meantime at thirty seven and not make bud. 654 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: But but if you decide to do it at thirty seven, yeah, 655 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: he's on a four year due, so the red shirt 656 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: year counts as one of them. Now you really only 657 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: have a couple of years to see what you got, 658 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: so in the first round you can at least I 659 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: don't like it. You don't like I don't like it. 660 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: The scenario, what are you giving it? Seventy eight, which 661 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: was pretty much my college average? Just kidding. I was 662 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: into a lot of extracurricular stuff. I was vice president 663 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: of my class, I was business manager of the year 664 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: of book. I was captain of the sailing team. Don't 665 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: at me on that. I will never mind. I'm I 666 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: didn't love that scenario either. To degree, maybe if I 667 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: had changed Jermaine Johnson to somebody different, But I don't 668 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: mind the red shirting in Bojabo because I'm getting a 669 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: top twelve to fifteen talent way beyond. Let me think 670 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: about it. Jeffrey Simmons back in twenty eighteen, coming off 671 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: acl A tour in mid January, I had a number four, 672 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: number four, and Harris one hundred and the Titans are like, 673 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: we'll take him at nineteen, and now what happens? We 674 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: have to face that monster twice a year. He's good, 675 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: he's been responsible, like single handedly winning some games against 676 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: the Texans, but that's him, and I don't know if 677 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: I'm willing to take that gamble. You know what I 678 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: want to see from Nick. I don't want to give up. 679 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: What do we have? One or seven, one o eight? 680 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to get those up. 681 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. And I would think that odds are 682 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: better that he trades one of those when we get there, 683 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: But maybe not, because maybe there's two players. After reevaluating 684 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: the board following Friday night top of Saturday, there are 685 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: two guys as we want. We're gonna go get him 686 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: unless somebody makes a deal with Jacksonville. It moves ahead 687 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: of us. Jeckels at one or six, so I'm thinking, 688 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: go ahead and make those picks. After what he did 689 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: last year, I want to see him draft some of 690 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: these players. I'm more willing to see Nick trade the 691 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: pocket change as some college later in the draft of 692 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: sixth and seventh, that kind of thing. Grade this scenario, 693 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: last one, sixth, last one. You got one more for 694 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: god at pick number three. Yeah, the Texans go away 695 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: a quarter m pick number thirteen, the Texans go Malik 696 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: Willis liberty grade this scenario. We need to do this 697 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: after the break. I need a little emotional right now. 698 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: You gotta grade it. You gotta grade it because we 699 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: gotta hit a few things on the other side. You 700 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: have to grade it. No, I'm not giving you time 701 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: to think. I'll give it an eighty eight. I'll give 702 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,959 Speaker 1: it an eighty eight. I like it. I get boy, 703 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,439 Speaker 1: you can't throw this at me going into the break. 704 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: But all right, we'll talk about it another time. All right, Mark, 705 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: nice job, Thank you. There is a receiver man. Receivers 706 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: are driving everything nowadays. I got paid paid paid. We'll 707 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: tell you that is, and we'll go round the league 708 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: next right here in Texas All Access. We got one 709 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: final segment this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from 710 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: Monday Texans Radio Studio. I am John Harris. It's time 711 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: to go around the league and Stefan Diggs will remain 712 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bill, the former fifth round sell I actual 713 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 1: imagine that fifth rounder signed a four year, ninety six 714 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: million dollars extension to stay with the Buffalo Bills. He 715 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: was the nineteenth receiver drafted in twenty fifteen. Nineteenth it 716 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 1: hit in Minnesota. Then it was time to move on 717 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: on Vike. He's got a first rounding for Diggs. Diggs 718 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: has been well worth it. And twenty twenty, Diggs led 719 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: the league in receptions. He's the first team All Pro, 720 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: he made Pro he made the Pro Bowl last year. 721 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: That's too straight, Diggs. There was some noise being made, 722 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: a noise coming out of Buffalo about Stefen Diggs, and 723 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: oh boy, look at all these receivers making money. He 724 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: was tweeting some cryptic stuff with some emojis, which I 725 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 1: can't stand. I couldn't stand Deshaun Watson's rap lyric cryptic stuff. 726 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: I just like say it or don't, but like all 727 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: this cryptic Oh man, what am I going to do? 728 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: All these receivers are getting money. Oh my well, Stefan 729 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: Diggs got his money. He will remain a Buffalo bill, 730 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: So Josh Allen Stefan Diggs. And if we see Stefan 731 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: Diggs catchy passes from Josh Allen in twenty twenty two, 732 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: that's a great thing because that means it's a playoff 733 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: game because we don't see them in regular season. Thank god. 734 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness set offenses which would be ridiculous. And 735 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: I almost I almost mocked Breese Hall running back to 736 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo the fact I had him in there, and then 737 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: I went back and I looked at it and went, 738 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm no, I'm gonna go a different direction. 739 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: And I can't remember who I ended up putting in there, 740 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: but it was not Brueseall but Brees Hall is a 741 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: running back in that system. Oh my goodness. That said 742 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: Stefandig's staying for a while. He got a massive deal 743 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: four years, ninety six million dollars to stay up in Buffalo. 744 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: That offense stays in tack. Now. The other news from 745 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: the day was Derek Stingley Junior, the mercurial cornerback, worked 746 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: out at LSU. He had had a Lizz franc injury 747 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: he had been banged up, didn't play all that well 748 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: at twenty twenty. He didn't play a ton of games either. 749 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen is a true freshman who was outstanding. So 750 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: there are a lot of questions about Stingley, and from 751 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: a physical standpoint, he probably answered him. The forty yard dash, 752 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: he went anywhere from like four three six to four 753 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 1: four two. That's smoking fast at his size six foot 754 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: about one ninety five. He had a vertical jump of 755 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: thirty eight and a half inches and he brought jump 756 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: ten two. I said it the other day. Sean Pendergast 757 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: asked me in the morning. He said, Sauce Gardner's draft 758 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: status and I said it was over under. And I said, 759 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: why don't we wait to answer that until we see 760 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: Derek Stingley work out? Because I got a feeling that 761 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: once Stingley works out, teams are going to go back 762 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: and say, man, let's look at that twenty nineteen film. 763 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 1: I think we got something here. He ran his forty 764 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: in a beanie. I love it. He did his interview 765 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: with James Palmer, and I think James said ten times 766 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: the word that's words that Stingley did. He doesn't say 767 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: a whole lot he does. Talking on the field, I 768 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: have him number five overall in the Harris one hundred. 769 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: I had him going number four over all to the 770 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 1: New York Jets. I have him ahead of Sauce Gardener, 771 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: all things considered, both of them healthy. I'll take Stingley 772 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: eight out of ten times eight out of ten, bordering 773 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: on nine out of ten. I believe in the guy, 774 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: and you know what, I wouldn't be opposed. I just 775 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: wanted to see him healthy. And I remember thinking of 776 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen when he was a freshman and I would 777 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: watch him and we were good. I thought, man, it's 778 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: I hate it. I wish we could have Derek Stingley. 779 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: Well maybe now, you never know, maybe Derek Stingley ends 780 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: up being that pick and he ends up coming to 781 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: Houston and becomes that guy in the corner that we're 782 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: that we're looking for. Throw him into the defensive mix. 783 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: You got a game changer that corner. A guy that 784 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: could play man, could play press, can run with anybody. 785 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: He's the only guy I've seen coverag Jamar Chase Worth 786 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 1: a flip. He did that as a true freshman. Imagine 787 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: if you'd give him some time in the NFL with 788 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 1: some good coaching from Dino Vasso, from Lovey Smith and 789 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: from that entire Texas coaching staff know what you might have, 790 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 1: but Derek Stingley great workout on field. Workout was excellent 791 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: as well, and there were tons and tons of coaches 792 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: and position coaches there, so it was good to see 793 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: Derek Stingley work out. I think that solidified himself in 794 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: the top five. And that's your show. A big thanks 795 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: to Mark from a man Chris Santiago to Derek Stingley 796 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: for doing it at a baby and we'll see them 797 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: or everybody and as always, go Texans.