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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 2: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling raivalry. No, no,

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Speaker 2: sibling rival.

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Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth.

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Speaker 2: Revelry. That's good. Check one, check two. What you're gonna do?

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Speaker 2: It's me double O A L I E on my

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Speaker 2: own crew. Yeah. You know what. There's a show on

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Speaker 2: Netflix called Hustling Flow, Rhyme and Flow something like that.

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Speaker 2: It's season two. It's like American Idol, but for hip

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Speaker 2: for rappers. I'm locked in. I'm locked in because, believe

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Speaker 2: it or not, I still freestyle like I was huge

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Speaker 2: into the hip hop world. My friend Alex, we used

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Speaker 2: to just get blazed in his car and put on

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Speaker 2: breakbeats in freestyle. That's what we did and that's carried on.

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Speaker 2: I love the show. Still love hip hop. Anyway, This

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Speaker 2: is the intro and I'm introing. So I just got

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Speaker 2: a new tragger grill smoker, so I'm gonna start smoking smoking.

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Speaker 2: I gotta quit smoking and then start smoking. Anyway, I'm rambling.

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Speaker 2: Our guest is in the waiting room. Doctor Jason Diamond,

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Speaker 2: come on in. I have no idea who this who

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Speaker 2: this guy is. He's just like, I want to be

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Speaker 2: on your podcast. And I'm like, who the hell are you?

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Speaker 2: And he's like, don't worry about it, you know, And

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Speaker 2: I said, all right, come on, like, just I guess

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Speaker 2: come on the podcast. So let's see what this weirdo

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Speaker 2: is all about. What a treat this is?

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Speaker 1: Huh yeah, it's my best part of my week already.

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Speaker 2: That's right. So if anyone was listening to my intro,

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Speaker 2: which of course they were, I said that I don't

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Speaker 2: know this fool and he just wanted to come on

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Speaker 2: my podcast. But that's a lie. That is a lie,

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Speaker 2: mister Jason Diamond, doctor Jason Diamond, j d J Dizzle.

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Speaker 2: I call him Diamond in the rough because he still

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Speaker 2: has a lot to learn about a few things.

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Speaker 1: I just got a training a someone just sent me

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Speaker 1: a training a pitching wedge and putter. It's got like

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Speaker 1: a QR code and all these things. I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: guess I can.

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Speaker 2: With your golf game?

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Speaker 1: Is that it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little backstory. So Jason and I met

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Speaker 2: uh at playing golf actually, and I saw this dude

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Speaker 2: over there. And at the time, there was this there

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Speaker 2: was some hot way that you that you were supposed

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Speaker 2: to swing a golf club called the stack and tilt.

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Speaker 2: Never adhere to it. But I saw JD stacking and tilting.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck is this guy doing right now?

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Speaker 2: And it was love. From from then on, it was love.

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Speaker 2: And so to introduce you. If you don't know JD.

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Speaker 2: If you don't know Jason Dimon, you should. He is

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Speaker 2: one of the great plastic surgeons, one of the great

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Speaker 2: skincare men, one of the great humans. He had a

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Speaker 2: show on TV for a while. He was tired of

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Speaker 2: being a celebrity, so he quit. Is that accurate?

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Speaker 1: That's right?

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Speaker 2: If you were better being a doctor. Well, thanks for

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Speaker 2: coming on, my man. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: It's my pleasure. I love talking any chair, listen, any

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Speaker 1: chance I get to have you like as a captive audience.

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Speaker 1: And you're like one of those you know, you're like

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Speaker 1: one of those girls I was interested in high school.

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Speaker 1: Like you know, you never get the time that that

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Speaker 1: person always like you. I'm like unavailable to me, and

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Speaker 1: now I've got you available. You can't leave.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, because I've talked about you on

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Speaker 2: was like, oh, we want to hear more about my

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Speaker 2: skincare of all people, you know what I mean, Which

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Speaker 2: is interesting because obviously you know, in your world, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure the high percentage of client is female, Am I

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Speaker 2: right about that?

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Speaker 1: Probably sixty five percent of my practice funeral but thirty

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Speaker 1: five percent somewhere in that run, probably.

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Speaker 2: Right, which I think needs to be exposed a little

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Speaker 2: bit more, you know, before we get into all that.

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Speaker 2: And this isn't you know again, We've known each other

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Speaker 2: for a long long time, but I've never really even

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Speaker 2: asked you about, you know, sort of your upbringing, where

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Speaker 2: even know if you have siblings, you know, And then

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Speaker 2: curious how you even got into this field and why,

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Speaker 2: you know, So start with where you grew up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I grew up in New Jersey from a town

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Speaker 1: still my best friends this day or from that town.

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Speaker 1: They think my guys from high school, they just were

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Speaker 1: out here for a golf trip and there were again

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Speaker 1: I'm like an honorary Sicilian now my friends always laugh,

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Speaker 1: I'm like a on a golf scale. I'm like a

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you know it was it was a

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Speaker 1: very blue collar upbringing. My dad's old tools, you know,

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Speaker 2: Did you have siblings.

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Speaker 1: I have a sister, actually's a year and a half

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Speaker 2: I was just in Short Hills. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was there doing Happy gil More too.

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Speaker 2: You know, I told you, yeah, but I was. I

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Speaker 1: Short and so this is a little bit of an

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Speaker 1: Everyone calls the armpit of the East or whatever. Because

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Speaker 1: I always say, like, you guys don't understand. Short Hills

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Speaker 2: So again, I was there for a month. My sister

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Speaker 2: and I understand the stereotype of New Jersey's shithole. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great place. It just has a bad rip,

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Speaker 1: I think because people just don't understand it. Really. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I grew up right by there about the Short Hills Mall.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, we knew of it, but it's not

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Speaker 1: And I was obsessed with these photos. Every time he

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Speaker 2: And then did you decide to you did undergrad and

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Speaker 2: did you know that you wanted to get into medicine,

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Speaker 2: Like how did that happen?

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Speaker 1: I did because of that experience. I was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: So I went to college just kind of saying, oh, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna be pretty med, but not really

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Speaker 1: thinking I was capable of it. And I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: From Rochester. I went to where I went to school,

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Speaker 1: this is possible, you know, And I applied in med school.

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Speaker 1: look like Michael Jackson, or you can really use that

433
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 1: turkey neck without looking like Joan Rivers, like like you know,

434
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 1: and I think it really brought this discipline.

435
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 2: Industry and then that and how many seasons did you

436
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 2: do with that?

437
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 1: I did like six or seven season?

438
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean essentially, you know, you become a

439
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 2: little bit of celebrity. You know, work does speak for itself,

440
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 2: but once you're out there, it's like, oh, I want diamond,

441
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 2: you know.

442
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

443
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 2: So let let's talk about that for a second. Because

444
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 2: subtlety matters, right obviously, Yes, people can take it overboard.

445
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 2: We've seen it all. So do you turn down people

446
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 2: who you're like, sorry, like either you don't need this

447
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: or you want something that I don't provide.

448
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: Yes, and yes, yes to both of those things. The

449
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: first part of interviewing somebody new and it's an interview,

450
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean they're interviewing me, but I'm not viewing them too,

451
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 1: you know. And the first thing is number one, can

452
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: I give them what they want? And number two is

453
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: what they want appropriate for them? And if I can't

454
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: give them what they want, I tell them I'm as

455
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: honest as a guess, you know, at this stage, like,

456
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: I just want happy patience, and the only way to

457
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Speaker 1: get have your patience is to have people give people

458
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 1: what they are expecting. And so I can't give somebody

459
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: what they want for whatever reason. Oh, I'm the first

460
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: want to tell them. And sometimes that's a hard discussion.

461
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I got I have people literally flying from

462
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: twenty hours away, all different four corners of the globe,

463
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 1: flying in and I'm their last hope. And they when

464
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,239
Speaker 1: they you know, when they're here, and they spent all

465
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 1: this time and money to get here, and then I

466
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: look at them, I'm like, oh my god, I can't

467
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Speaker 1: give on on. That's a hard thing for me. It's

468
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: a very hard thing for me. I don't take that lightly.

469
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 1: And I spend a lot of time trying to look

470
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Speaker 1: at every angle and figure out can I kind of

471
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Speaker 1: get them what they want? Even but if I can't,

472
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm the first one to tell them. So yes, and

473
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: that happens. It happens time to time. And then the

474
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Speaker 1: and then I think probably as equal, I think equally

475
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: common is the situation where somebody wants something and I

476
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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think that's what even though they

477
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 1: think they want it, I know that it's not right

478
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: for them. And then those situations I tell them, look,

479
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: you know this is not right. I disagree that I'm

480
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: not the guy to do this, So those things happen. Yeah,

481
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: i'd have it's I'd say probably every week at least

482
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 1: there's somebody in one of those two situations.

483
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Look, plastic surgery, obviously

484
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: it's become way, way, way less taboo, I think because

485
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: of what you're saying, this sort of revolution of subtlety.

486
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 2: I guess back twenty years ago, as I go, if

487
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: you get plastic surgery, you're going to look like a

488
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 2: crazy person. It's become more acceptable. It's not as taboo anymore,

489
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: especially for men.

490
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: You know.

491
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: Look, I've gone to you, not for plastic surgery, but

492
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: I've gotten the vampire facials, I've gotten the fucking lasers.

493
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 2: And I go in there not even knowing what the

494
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: hell I'm doing. I'm just like, doc, like, do something

495
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 2: to my face because I don't want to look like

496
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 2: a leather bag, you know what I mean. And I'm

497
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 2: not afraid to sort of say it, you know what

498
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying, because I just don't. I just like, I'm

499
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Speaker 2: in a business where my face needs to look somewhat okay.

500
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: But I'm always say to you, hey, I still want

501
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 2: to look like me. I just want to look a

502
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: little cleaned up. But I digress. So you are in

503
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 2: the business of making people feel good at the end

504
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: of the day. Obviously, plastic surgery is a very, very

505
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 2: expensive endeavor. Not a lot of people can afford what

506
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: you do. There are so many people out there who

507
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: would benefit from plastic surgery who can't afford it, not

508
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: just because they want to, you know, look fabulous, but

509
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 2: because it's actually going to you know, provide them, you know,

510
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: some confidence, some self esteem. Do you take that into

511
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 2: account when you're dealing with clients? Do you have sort

512
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: of a you know, a less than or a give

513
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: back or you know what I'm saying, Like, is that

514
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: a part of your practice?

515
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I certainly take everything into account. I love helping people,

516
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, and I love to give back when I can.

517
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 1: And you know, I have to use my time efficiently

518
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: because there's only one of me and these procedures take

519
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, some of the procedures that I do or

520
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: ten hour service I can only do and with the

521
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: ergonomics of it all, I can only do two of

522
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: them a week, you know. So I'd love to be

523
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: able to do hundreds of these, you know, a week

524
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: for people, but I don't have, so I so believe

525
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: I get I give back in more different ways. You know,

526
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: I donate, I don'ate, you know, I like to. I'm

527
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: very generous to my donations and things, and and I'm

528
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: very proud of that. And and you know, being that

529
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: you're asking, I'm telling I don't go out and tell

530
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: people that.

531
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, of course not no, you're not bragging

532
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: about it, right, yeah, right, But.

533
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: You know, so it's not like I can site their

534
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: new surveys all day. Fore people can't afford it. But

535
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: I do what I can, at least in educating people

536
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: and giving them time. And you know, and when we

537
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: can do something that makes sense, I do. Yeah.

538
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And have you ever do you ever have moments

539
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: because you've been doing it for so long, because it's

540
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: like it'd be impossible for you to admit this because

541
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,239
Speaker 2: it's not good for business. But as an actor, you

542
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: go do a scene and you're like, oh, that's fucking great.

543
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: And then then and then you might do a scene

544
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: where you're in the car and you're driving home. You're like, God,

545
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: damn it, I could have I could have fucking done

546
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 2: that a little bit better. Now it's hard to sort

547
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 2: of compare those two things, because one is sort of

548
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 2: fluid and creative. If not that you're not creative, But

549
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: is there any party that was ever like get in

550
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 2: the car, like she looks great or he looks great,

551
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: but like I could have done that a little bit better.

552
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: Look, the reality is we are learning every single day.

553
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: Like I'm learning every day, and every surgery I learn,

554
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: every survey I learned something, every patient I learned something,

555
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: and I and I continue. I'm a perfectionist. Not many

556
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: things in my life, but in this perfectionist, and I

557
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: always say, the day I stop learning is the day

558
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to retire, Like what you know? So so yeah,

559
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: for sure, you know surgeries are so complex and there's

560
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 1: so many different parts to him. And yeah, sometimes you're

561
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: in there like I don't love that cut, you know,

562
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: and then you do what you kind of make that perfect,

563
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's one small part of a big thing.

564
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: So you know, so as so the overall result is

565
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: what matters most. But as a perfectionist, you know, you

566
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: like every little stitch and every little cut to be perfect,

567
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: and oftentimes sometimes it's not, and then you got to

568
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: you got to work around that and make that part perfect,

569
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: and then you know, sometimes you have to take a

570
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: stitch out because it doesn't look perfect and redo it.

571
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: And you know, again, my service take forever. They take

572
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: long there because we're so meticulous in that way. And

573
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: I always hear people talk about, you know, like you

574
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: hear people advertise facelift in an hour and a half.

575
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: There used to be this huge thing called lifestyle lift.

576
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: It was like every TV commercial and they promoted a

577
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: facelift in an hour. I can tell you if you're

578
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: doing a facelift in an hour an hour and a half,

579
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: you are not. You're you're not going back and making

580
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: things perfect. You can't be done that fast in any

581
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: good way. It just so ours taken oftimes in there

582
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: for eight hours, making every little thing perfect. So to

583
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: answer your question, yeah, sure, from time to time there

584
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: are little things like oh man, I don't love the

585
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: way I did that, and I'll go but I'll always

586
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: do everything I can to make that perfect. And what

587
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: matters most is the overall result. And sure are the

588
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: results I'm like, I wish that was a little Yeah,

589
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: for sure, there are, but those are always those are always,

590
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: thank God, my mind. Little things.

591
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: It's also probably a personal thing to you where it's

592
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: like the result has no, there's nothing to do with

593
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: the way that you felt being a perfectionist. It's the

594
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: same kind of thing where like, oh dude, that seems

595
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: fucking great, oh my god, but you are like okay,

596
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: but like there's that thing I could have done, but

597
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with the outcome one percent.

598
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that does happen.

599
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: It's actually a good thing. It pushes you forward, it

600
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: makes you better, right.

601
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And there are some times where I'll like I'll

602
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: see the result and the patient will be thrilled, like

603
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: this changed my way. I love it, and I'll look

604
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: out I'll be like, man a little better and I

605
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: don't love that little part and like you know, but

606
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 1: they love it. So I'm like, all right, great, Like

607
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: those things are few and far between, but it does happen,

608
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: and all that I care about.

609
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, did when you have when you do a ten

610
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: hour surgery, do you have like a lunch break?

611
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: No? No?

612
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: Do you like eat?

613
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: You're like it's like it's such a weird thing. When

614
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: I get into that o R. I'm a different person,

615
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: like you know me outside of surgery, Like, yeah, I'm

616
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: not you've got anything. I'm not super meticulous really about anything.

617
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, whatever, you know. But I get into

618
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: an O R and man, things change and I become

619
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: I become like an animal, like like I literally do

620
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: things that people can't believe. Like so I routinely would

621
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: do ten hour surgeries without getting up once even to

622
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: go to AM. I like, it's crazy because I can

623
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: just get in that zone for hours and not even

624
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: know what time it is and not realize anything and

625
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: except what I'm focusing on. And I've had other surgeons

626
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: come in and watch me and you are crazy, like

627
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: how are you doing? And I just can do it.

628
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: And but what happened was I developed a blood clot

629
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: this is about four years oh, and it went up

630
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: to my lung and turned into a pumer anablysm it

631
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: almost killed me. And this is like the thing that

632
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: you hear about, like you know, people sitting out in

633
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: the fields forever. It was a famous news reporter I

634
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: can't remember. I can't remember his name now, but someone

635
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: covered an Iraq war who died at thirty five years

636
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: old from a piece. So anyway, that happened to me

637
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: like three or four years ago. My guys were like,

638
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: you cannot do that anymore, like sitting there for ten

639
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: hours not getting up. So now you know, every two hours,

640
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: I'll stand up, I'll do twenty cafways is, walk around

641
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: the for a minute and then sit back down, just

642
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: to keep the blood.

643
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: That's scary, man.

644
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And so now I will break out for

645
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: a minute every three hours to take a sip of

646
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: water and while i'm out out out of the bathroom.

647
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Speaker 1: But no, it's not like I'm taking you an hour

648
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Speaker 1: off for lunch and I'll show food down my throat

649
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: in five minutes.

650
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: What does it feel like to have a pulmonary embolism?

651
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: Well, I couldn't breathe. It was a crazy thing. I

652
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: was up in Big there where you know where we

653
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: have a place, and it was a summer day and

654
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: it was a hot day out there, and I was

655
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: out on the boats like like work, like when I

656
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: when I'm out there kids, I'm working. When they were

657
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: seething and they're just dat and yanking.

658
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: It's worked.

659
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: It was a hot day out there, and I'm just man,

660
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: I could this one day. And it's up at altitude

661
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: up there at seven now, so you're huffing them puffing anyway,

662
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: but this was different. I'm like, man, all day long,

663
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: I just couldn't breathe. I felt like it felt like

664
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: after you would do a long sprint. I was like

665
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: this all day and I'm like something sor right. I

666
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: thought I had COVID. This was four years in the

667
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: middle of COVID. I thought it was COVID where people

668
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: say they couldn't breathe. But I didn't complain. I didn't

669
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: tell anybody. I was out on that water all day,

670
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: not being able to breathe, just work and not say anything.

671
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: We come in from the boats from the lake at

672
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: like six, and we had a bunch of people up

673
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: at the house, friends and family visiting and twenty kids

674
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: in the house, and my wife and the other people like, oh,

675
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: let's go into the village. It's like a ten minute

676
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: drive and village is always packed. You got to look

677
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: for parking and you gotta walk around. And the thought

678
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: of that, I was like, there's no way I can

679
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: do this. But I'm like, all right, I got up

680
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: and I did it. And I walked around this village

681
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: for an hour and a half and the whole time

682
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't really talking to anybody, but everybody was busy

683
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: doing their own thing. No one really paid attention. But

684
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm just like, man, I can't fucking breathe. I'm like,

685
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: And then we get home and all the adults are

686
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: having some drains talking and I like sneak away and

687
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: I go lay down on the couch in the other

688
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: room and I couldn't even sit up and I had

689
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: to lay down. And finally my wife, who's a doctor,

690
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: she comes in. She's like, what's wrong with it? You

691
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: haven't really said anything. And she looks at me, She's like,

692
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: oh my god, you are as pill as a ghost.

693
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: What's going on? They put put an Apple Watch pulsace

694
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: on me. My oxygen saturations were eighty five years, so

695
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: it was like one twenty and those are very very

696
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: worrisome signs. And my wife was like, oh my god,

697
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: something's gone on. So she we race down the mountain,

698
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: didn't say goodbye to anybody, and I ended up going

699
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: to an ear on the drive, you know, just down

700
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: the sweet stop in the r and they like, you

701
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: have a massive pulmonary amblysm. I literally couldn't even believe

702
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: those words. I was like, holy shit, like and that's

703
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: got a ten percent dead on arrival, like diagnoses that

704
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: those things are fatal.

705
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: It moved off from your legs up into your lung right, Yeah,

706
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: that's what it.

707
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: What happens. Yeah, people get clots where they're not moving around.

708
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: Typically happens on flights or people who sit for long

709
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: periods of time. That blood because it's not really flowing,

710
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: turning to a clot in the leg. And that in

711
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: itself is not the problem. But when the cloth then

712
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: works its way, but the vein gets into the lungs

713
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: and then it lodges in there and then you're raisically suffocating.

714
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: And so dude, I couldn't believe when they told me that.

715
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: And the thing was it was the middle of COVID,

716
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: so my wife couldn't.

717
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: Even come my EO.

718
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: So it's like midnight, she drops me off of this

719
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: ar in Glendale. I go in. I'm like, just go home.

720
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you can't come in and I'll call you.

721
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: Three in them they come in and tell me I

722
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: have a massive p I mean, it was like to

723
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: believe those words I was hearing and I'm like, oh

724
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: my god, I'm not going to call her hulf. I'm like,

725
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: I'll call it in the morning. I call it at

726
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: six o'clock in the morning. She couldn't believe it. I mean,

727
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: we were crying. It was crazy.

728
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: These blood thinners. Is that what?

729
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, that treatment is just massive blood finners, like yeah,

730
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: and they got me. They yeah. So it was okay.

731
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: But I had to change the way I was doing things.

732
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: So now now I do get up, I walk around,

733
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: I drink water.

734
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about skincare, because you know, I use

735
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: your stuff. Just just explained. I don't know all the

736
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: ins and the outs of this, right, I've been to

737
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 2: a few dinners, you know, where you're sort of doing

738
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 2: your thing, but this is something that everyone can sort

739
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: of be a part of. I know that sometimes plastic

740
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: surgery can be expensive, but you know, just talk about

741
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: what you're doing, you know, sort of the revolution that

742
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: you are pushing.

743
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: So a big part of I think the success that

744
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: we've had are based on our results, and a big

745
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: part of my results being what they are is because

746
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,959
Speaker 1: I have had always had a strong focus in skin,

747
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: which plastic servants typically don't. Plastic services are typically working

748
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: under the skin, dealing with structure, but I, along my

749
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: studies learn the importance, which is an unusual thing for

750
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: plastic servance. So I've been using skin strategies my whole career,

751
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: in my facelifts and my surgical procedures, and largely revolving

752
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: around the bioregenerative techniques, things that like the buzz terms

753
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: that people hear, like stem cells, prp, xysomes, nanofat, things

754
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: like this, basically strategies where we're using letting the body

755
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: repair itself. The body repairs itself better than we can.

756
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: God designed it that way where you're meant to repair itselves.

757
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: Kids can repair themselves like crazy. Kids don't even scar

758
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: half the time when they get lacerations because they're healing.

759
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: Is so robut it's because the body knows how to

760
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: do it. As we age, we lose that ability. The

761
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: body kind of forgets and it's all related to gain

762
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: growth factors and peptides. These are buzzwords, but these are

763
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: the body signaling systems to tell the body to repair.

764
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: So we can kind of remind the body how to

765
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: do it by using these strategies. And it's been a

766
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: huge focus of mine my whole career. It's now gaining

767
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: popular wide, popular recognition and now orthopedic surgeons are using

768
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: it instead of steroids in your Joiants in different areas

769
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: of medicine are using different specialists are using it for

770
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: all different kinds of things. But it's something that I

771
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: really have understood and I've been on the forefront of.

772
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: And so I realized that I don't necessarily need to

773
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: keep this just in surgery. I knew I knew enough

774
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: to be able to bring this into the office and

775
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: be able to offer it outside of surgery. And so

776
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: we created a procedure called the insta facial, which you

777
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: know about. That's a multimodality treatment that involves using your

778
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: own blood or exisomes. It's again it's exosomes are just

779
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: a fancy term for the active part of a stem cell.

780
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: And so it's ways in which we're telling the body

781
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: to repair and it just does it in an amazing

782
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: way when you know how to, when you know how

783
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: to teach the body and so and so that's what

784
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: we're doing with the skin. And so we developed a

785
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: skin care line called Doctor Line's Medicine. And I'm using

786
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: all this, all this knowledge to create these bioregenerative techniques

787
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: and the products do just that that They're loaded with

788
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: growth factors and peptize things which teach the body to

789
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: restore itself. And the results are they're there, and the

790
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: products work and everybody who uses them sees results immediately.

791
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: And so this is what our skincare line is based on.

792
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: It's based on things that we've learned and that we

793
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: do in the office, and so it's nothing but the

794
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: highest level of product of ingredients. And so that's what

795
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: we're doing with this.

796
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing, it really is. I just need to

797
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 2: be more consistent because I you know, I just I'm

798
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 2: not I'm not consistent enough with all that shit because

799
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: I just get lazy. I get lazy.

800
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: Well I'm lazy too, and you know, and and there

801
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: are many skincare routines that that require twenty steps. I

802
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: was like, listen, I need to create something that I'm

803
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: going to use. I'm a guy just like you. I mean,

804
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: it's got to be simple. So we've got two steps

805
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 1: right now. That's all it takes. We've got a couple

806
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: of little things we're adding in that will be launched,

807
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: but these two steps, it's simple. You need nothing else

808
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: right now, and and it works so incredibly well. You

809
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: don't need a twenty step thirty minute routine. It takes time.

810
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 2: That's what I do love about it. It's like a drop,

811
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: a dropper thing. And then and then I think that's

812
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: the one that you push down. What is that one's yeah,

813
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: the emulsion. It just feels when you put on your face,

814
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: it just feels like you're doing something. The consistency of

815
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 2: it is amazing. And then there's and then yeah, it's

816
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 2: like you're like, oh okay, wow, I'm like, there it is, yeah,

817
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: show it.

818
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: This is the plasma. This is this replicates your blood

819
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: with the growth factors, the pr Yeah, this is red.

820
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: It's like this little red uh like clear serum.

821
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 2: That's just so yeah yeah yeah yeah, consistency.

822
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: And then the one you're talking about is has the

823
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: retinoid ester and the antioxidants and it also has grow.

824
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, and together they work.

825
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: They work, they work individually, they work even by themselves,

826
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: but they work better together. Where the hole is greater

827
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: than you.

828
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: No, I do, and it's really interesting, you know, especially

829
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: coming from me who does not really take care of

830
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: his skin. That that great. But when you do put

831
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 2: it on after a shower, it just feels like Okay,

832
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: I've taken a step in my life to like make

833
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: myself look better. You know, usually just put some lotion

834
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: or whatever on your face. But this, you're like, oh, ship,

835
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: wait a minute, this feels like like like nectar of

836
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: some kind, you know.

837
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's and the thing is, I'm telling you,

838
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: al yeah, I see people. Ever. The thing is, I'm

839
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: in the trenches. I see people every single day, all

840
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: day long, from all over the world, and not a

841
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: day goes by where ten people don't come here, and

842
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: they say, this stuff has changed my life. I've thrown

843
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: everything else out. People are asking me if I've had

844
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: a Facebook. This is all I'm doing. Like, I hear

845
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: it all day long, so we know it worked, Like

846
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: we know, I know it works, and my skins never

847
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: look better. We hear it all day long, and so

848
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: we're really proud of it. I know it works and

849
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: you know, and so having that in the trenches.

850
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And the other thing too, is is you've

851
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: been in the game for so long and this is

852
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 2: your how long has this been around?

853
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: Now?

854
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: Like, how long is it? When did this long launch?

855
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: I've been working on it for six years well now

856
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: now close to seven years. But we launched it a

857
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: year ago, right?

858
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: And is this correct me if I'm wrong? But is

859
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: this your your first product that you have launched personally?

860
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: Right?

861
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Speaker 2: Okay, so you've been in the game for this long

862
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 2: and are only launching this now. That has to say

863
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: something as far as the R and D that you've

864
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Speaker 2: put into this, you know what I'm saying, Like the

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Speaker 2: testing that you have done in real life, you know,

866
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 2: real world scenarios. You could have easily put some shit

867
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: out and made a ton of money like they all do,

868
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: but you actually wanted to make this thing right and

869
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 2: make it real and when you were going to launch something,

870
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Speaker 2: it was going to be the best. Is that correct?

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Speaker 1: Well? People know, look when you come to my office,

872
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm not doing any fad stuff. We're not doing any shortcusts.

873
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: Everything we do is the best standards, the highest quality,

874
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: time tested things, proceders that I have perfect, Like, I'm

875
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: not putting anything out there that's not the best. People know,

876
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Speaker 1: I won't even do certain proceders that I know someone

877
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Speaker 1: else can do better than. Right, someone else, I won't

878
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: even do it. I'll tell them this guy does it better.

879
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: Like I'm only doing things that I can do the best.

880
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: And if it's if I don't believe in something, I'm

881
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Speaker 1: not doing it.

882
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I mean, yeah, where can you get it?

883
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Speaker 1: So this isn't so you can go online to doctor

884
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: Diamands Medicine dot com and then it's in a bunch

885
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: of retails and norse and things like.

886
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: Oh great, all right, brother, well I love you. It

887
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: was great to talk to you.

888
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: Good to see and looks great. You're you look awesome

889
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: right now.

890
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: It's it's happening, it's happening. I think I might be

891
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: doing a movie in February, so I'm gonna come see

892
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: you again because I was doing Happy Gilmore too. And

893
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: I have these sun spots, right, so they had to

894
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: keep covering like the spots. I got to get rid

895
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Speaker 2: of those.

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Speaker 1: Easy, easy, you just got to get in. I know.

897
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: The problem with the problem with me and Diamond is

898
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: I'm always in the sun. I never wear fucking sunblocks.

899
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: So every time I come in, he's like, well, I

900
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: can't do this because you're you've burned your fucking skin off.

901
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: So all right, doc, good, good talking to you, baby,

902
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: Good seeing you later. Okay, Doctor Diamond, what a great guy.

903
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: Not only is he one of the best or the best,

904
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 2: just a really really, really good, solid dude. You know,

905
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: he's not looking to sort of be that guy, that

906
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: stereotypical maybe plastic surgeon you might think of. And I

907
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: will say that I'm not just promoting his shit because

908
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 2: he's a good friend of mine, but I actually use

909
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: it and it's good. It's good, to be honest. It's

910
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Speaker 2: a little pricey, you know, but it's not crazy, crazy pricey.

911
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: It's pricey because it's just been you know, created with

912
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 2: all the greatest ingredients you could possibly imagine. But it's

913
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: worth it, honestly. Anyway, I'm out. I gotta go, I

914
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: gotta go. I have an audition. I gotta go. I

915
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 2: gotta do a chemistry read. I'm not going to stay

916
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 2: with whom is it home or who? I don't know. Anyway,

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00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 2: it's so weird because you do these chemistry reads where

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00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: they normally were done in person, meaning you go with

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00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: the person, you actually see the chemistry, feel the chemistry.

920
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: Now these chemistry reads are on zoom, so you're trying

921
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: to create some sort of chemistry with someone on the screen. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I'm rambling. I'm out, Peace, Scott, I'm out. Peace,