1 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Good morning, Peezza, and welcome to WIKAYF Daily with Meet 2 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Home Bunker, Folks. 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: Today we get another supersized episode with our friend Glenn Kirshner. 4 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: As you know from Friday show, I was absolutely outdone 5 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: and beside myself with the absolute spinelessness that Merritt Garland 6 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: has shown over the last eighteen months of him being 7 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Attorney General. In my conversation with Glenn, Glenn reminds us 8 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: that when the Mulla Report came out, there were ten charges, 9 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: ten areas. Ten areas. Let me say that, not charges, 10 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: ten areas where Donald Trump had committed crimes, and based 11 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: on some bullshit policy, not a law, but a bullshit 12 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: policy from the Department of Justice, you cannot try or 13 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: indict a sitting president of the United States, which Glen 14 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: will tell us in this upcoming interview makes us pretty 15 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: much like a Banana Republic, because basically, what you're saying 16 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: to a criminal president like Donald Trump is crime away, 17 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: crime away, because nothing is going to happen to you. 18 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: Merritt Garland had the ability as soon as Donald Trump 19 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: was no longer president of the United States to roll 20 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: out indictments based on those obstruction charges, based on what 21 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: it was that he did with regard to conversations around Zelinski, 22 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: the emolument's clause, and other things he chose not to. 23 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: And so here we are in a position where we 24 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: have had Robert Muller fail, We've had Merritt Garland fail 25 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: to pick up Robert Muller's ball, and now we have 26 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: Jack Smith away from Merritt Garland to continue kicking the 27 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: responsibility can down the road. Glenn will provide us with 28 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: some very interesting updates as it pertains to Jack Smith 29 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: and his investigation and whether or not we are actually 30 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: edging closer to Trump and anyone in his inner circle 31 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: being held accountable for their crimes against his country and 32 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: against our democracy. So coming up next, dear friends, our 33 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: supersized episode with our good good friend, the host of 34 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: Justice Matters and MSNBC Legal analyst Glenn Kirshner. Folks, you 35 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: know that whenever I have the opportunity to talk with 36 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: our dear friend, the host of Justice Matters in an 37 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: MSNBC Legal analyst Glenn Kirshner, I am always thrilled but 38 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: yet exasperated because every week for the past couple of years, 39 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: Glenn and I have been sitting around wondering is justice 40 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: ever going to matter again? And this week, Glenn, yet 41 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: another blow. I am interpreting Merrick Garland's recent appointment of 42 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: a special counsel to look into the handful of documents 43 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden's lawyers discovered, contacted authorities to say that 44 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: they had said documents, then did their own search, found 45 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: a few more, handed them over readily. It took Merrick Garland, 46 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: according to Sawyer Hackett, seventy one days to appoint a 47 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: special counsel to look into Joe Biden. It took him 48 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty seven days to appoint a special 49 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: counsel for Donald Trump. After Donald Trump lied about taking documents, 50 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: then that they were his, refused to bring them, refuse 51 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: to let them go. And we know that the documents 52 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: that he had were nuclear secrets in a place that 53 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: was unlocked. Glenn, make this make sense? Sure? So I 54 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: think people are right to be frustrated that it took 55 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: forever for him to appoint a special counsel for Donald Trump, 56 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: and it took him two minutes to appoint a special 57 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: counsel for Joe Biden. But I think we have to 58 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: take a step back and look at why he appointed 59 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: special counsel when he did. And I'm going to argue 60 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: that under the special counsel regulations and statute, he it 61 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: was appropriate to do it when he did it for 62 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: those two issues. So there didn't have to be a 63 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: special counsel appointed to investigate the crimes of Donald Trump 64 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: until the moment Donald Trump announced he's Joe Biden's political 65 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: opponent in the upcoming election, because that's what gives rise 66 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: to the cont licked that Merrick Garland then had, because 67 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: if he kept going after not that he was going 68 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: after Donald Trump, nobody can accuse Merrick Garland of aggressively 69 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: going after Donald Trump. I don't know why the Republicans 70 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: aren't taking Merrick Garland out to lunch to celebrate every 71 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: day because Merrick Garland has not aggressively gone after Donald Trump. 72 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: As I was yelling and screaming on air with NICOLEJ. 73 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: Wallace yesterday. But let me get my blood pressure back down, 74 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: so breathe, breathe. So But the moment he announced, that's 75 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: when he became Biden's political opponent. That's when Merrick Garland 76 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: couldn't be perceived as going after Joe Biden's political opponent, 77 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: so he had to appoint a special counsel. Here is why. 78 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: So that's why it took so long. But Danielle and hindsight, 79 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm glad he did because I don't know that Merrick 80 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: Garland ever would have aggressively gone after Donald Trump and 81 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: Jack Smith is which we can talk about in a 82 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: few minutes. And he's doing it and really important ways. 83 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: So why did he Why did he instantly appoint a 84 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: special counsel when Joe Biden was found to have some 85 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: documents he shouldn't because he can't investigate his boss because 86 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: that's a conflict. He can't. He can't even say I 87 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: took a quick look at it, there's nothing there, let's 88 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 1: move on. Everybody would yell and scream it's your boss. 89 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: Of course you're going to protect him and say let's 90 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: move on. Now. We know the Republicans are going to 91 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: scream regardless of what Merrick Garland does or doesn't do. 92 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: But even the legal purists, the people who don't you know, 93 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: who really want to see the Department of Justice operate 94 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: in a fair, a political, legitimate way, people like me 95 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: and be like Oh, dude, that's not right. It's not 96 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: he's your boss. And here's where the deal was sealed. 97 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: For special counsel. Merrick Garland followed the guidance of the 98 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: regulations and the statue, and he turned to this US 99 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: attorney out in Chicago, who is a Trump appointee. I 100 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: don't know why Merrick Garland forever feels like he needs 101 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: to give everything to Trump appointee. You have no idea. 102 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: I don't either, other than he thinks that it fosters 103 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: the perception of fairness. I think it's a recipe for disaster. 104 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: But let's set that aside. He gives it to this guy, 105 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: John Loche, one of only two remaining of the ninety three, 106 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: one of only two remaining. Trump appointed US attorneys for 107 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: a preliminary review, which is appropriate, right, So he looked 108 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: at it. He did a little bit of digging around, 109 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of investigating. He said, Hey, Attorney General Garland, 110 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: based on my preliminary review, I think you should probably 111 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: investigate this, and I think you should probably appoint a 112 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: special counsel. Well, that sealed the deal, because Merrick Garland 113 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: at that point can't say, okay, I asked you to 114 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: do the review. I asked for your opinion. Your opinion 115 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: is there should be a special counsel and that person 116 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: should give this a look. I reject that and protect 117 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: my boss Joe Biden. That would not have been a 118 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: good look for Merrick Garland or the Department of Justice. 119 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: So the concern and the complaint that one thing took 120 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: forever and one thing was done instantly, that doesn't resonate 121 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: with me. There are some things that do resonate with him. 122 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: So people are trying to say there are some similarities. 123 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: Trump had documents he shouldn't have had. Biden had documents 124 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: he shouldn't have had. And that's true. But Danielle, that's 125 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: where the similarities end. They end. What did Joe Biden do, frankly, 126 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: what any good, honest, ethical, law abiding public servant would do. 127 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: His team told him and mister President, we found some 128 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: stuff at your pen office that shouldn't be there. They 129 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: instantly told the National Archives, because that's who owns those documents, 130 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: that's where those documents belong, and they return earn them. 131 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: They told the Department of Justice. They instantly launched a 132 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: search of any other place where these documents could be. 133 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: Like Joe Biden's garage. They found a few more and 134 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: they turned them over and they alerted the Department of 135 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: Justice and of story. So if there's a legitimate investigation, 136 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: I think what we're going to find now we can't 137 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: prejudge the conclusions of the investigation, which will be conducted 138 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: by another Trump appointed former DOJ official, Like, why can't 139 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: we find a Bush appointee? Like why can't we find 140 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: and like like I think that Bush isn't corrupted in 141 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: his own way, but like, I'm just confused about why 142 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: Merrit Garland believes that having the perception of some type 143 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: of equal treatment with people who do not follow the 144 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: rule of law is somehow going to make him seem 145 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: like a equal and full age. They don't care, and 146 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: they know we know that if you are a Trump appointee, 147 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: I don't give a damn where you were appointed. You 148 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: follow the rule book of make it long, make it last, 149 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: make a media frenzy. So whether or not you find 150 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing, you're going to drag it out because it's 151 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: going to be great for a media cycle for the 152 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: Republicans and it's something for them to sink their teeth into. 153 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: How Glenn does he keep doing this. That's a concern 154 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: that I can't answer. But here is where I'll push 155 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: back a little bit, Danielle. There are Trump appointed people, 156 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: including judges, who have actually proven to be fair and impartial. 157 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: The reason I say that is, look at the Trump 158 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: appointees who delivered judge appointed a lean canon or Trump 159 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: appointed judge a lean canon, a royal SmackDown, I mean, 160 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: a much harder SmackDown than all at court judges typically 161 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: deliver to trial court judges. Those were two Trump appointees. 162 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 1: There are some Trump appointees on the Federal DISTRICCORD in Washington, 163 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: DC who actually have been doing a darn good job, 164 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: and some of them are even announcing, hey, you know, 165 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is kind of responsible for the insurrection. When 166 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: are we going to see charges for him in substance? Right, 167 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: So it's not all Trump appointees, But I agree with 168 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: you that Merrick Garland falls into the trap every time 169 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: of thinking it seems, oh, I got to find a 170 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: Trump appointee to handle this. No, you don't, No, you don't. 171 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: Robert Muller was a lifelong Republican, and he instantly became 172 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: an angry Democrat in the propaganda and disinformation campaign of 173 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: the Republicans. So why do you think it's a good 174 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: thing to keep reaching for Trump appointees. I'm with you there, 175 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: but water under the bridge, even though the bridge has 176 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: been watched out a couple of times over So, we 177 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: just talked about what Joe Biden did, how he handled 178 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: this exactly as he should. I think what you're gonna 179 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: find is that a bunch of folks packed up his stuff. 180 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: This is not an excuse, but it's a reality. Anytime 181 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: and administration changes political hands, everybody starts packing stuff up, 182 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: throwing it in boxes, getting it the heck out of 183 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: the federal offices. And it's not the most sort of thoughtful, 184 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: controlled process. And you're gonna find some folks who are 185 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: being interviewed now who used to work with Joe Biden 186 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: when he was president, who we're going to say, Yeah, 187 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: I boxed up a whole bunch of stuff. Frankly, I 188 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: didn't pay much attention to it, and we had a 189 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: shipped to location X. So I suspect that's what you're 190 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: gonna find. We know that's not what Donald Trump did. 191 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: Why because Donald Trump posted the following, I openly and 192 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: transparently took all those documents. Well, thank you for letting 193 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: us know that and helping the prosecutors prove that element 194 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: of the crime that you know, we appreciate that. So 195 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: and he also said, and they were mine, and I 196 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: did classified them with my mind, and then when can 197 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: I declassify them with my mom an x men? Exactly, 198 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: It's like an old Kreskin act. He's gonna bend a spoon. 199 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: Um Kruskin's for the old, for the young kids. Kreskin 200 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: was a mentalist who used to appear on Johnny Carson. 201 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: I grew up on Johnny Carson. Okay, yeah, So but 202 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: what did Donald Trump do when the National Archives said, hey, sport, 203 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: you got our documents? He said, I don't care, you're 204 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: not getting them back. Great, and months and months and 205 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: months and months of fruitless negotiation with the documents hostage taker, 206 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: with the documents terrorists, that is Donald Trump. Then the 207 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: FBI and DOJ officials, including my former colleague Jay Bratt, 208 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: went Tomorrow Lago and said, give us the documents back, 209 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: and he wouldn't. Then a grand jury he subpoenaed the 210 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: documents as part of a criminal investigation, and Donald Trump 211 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: spit on that subpoena committing the crime of obstruction of justice. 212 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: And then we finally had a breakdown and get a 213 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: search warrant because a federal judge concluded that there were 214 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: three crimes that were committed and that evidence of those 215 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: crimes would be found at Donald Trump's home in Mara Lago. 216 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: And when the FBI executed that search warrant, they found 217 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: classified documents, including in Donald Trump's desk drawers, and Danielle 218 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: here's the kicker. And I haven't heard many people talk 219 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: about this as of right now today, Donald Trump is 220 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: still in court. Federal prosecutors are demanding that he certified 221 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: or he appoints somebody to certify that he has been 222 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: over all of the stuff he's stolen, and he won't 223 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: do it. Joe Biden instantly had searches conducted and said, 224 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: you've got it all now, I mean talk about Knight 225 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: and are you kidding me? So then, Glenn, I mean, 226 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I mean, this is why I think 227 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: that the both of us are just breathless at this 228 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: point right because the comparisons that are being made in 229 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: mainstream media are absolutely irresponsible. They have just recently started 230 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: to have any bit of nuance in their reporting. But 231 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, I said to folks on wok F the 232 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: other day, I'm at the gym and I'm looking over 233 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: at the woman in front of me who's on the 234 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: elliptical machine watching Fox News. It takes everything in me 235 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: not to jump off my elliptical machine and turn off 236 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: what she's watching. All you see breaking news, Biden documents, 237 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: You see McCarthy, Kevin McCarthy get up in front of 238 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: reporters and talk about the Biden foux paw. And then 239 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: you have Lauren Bobert Twitter and saying like I hope 240 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: that that this is not just more of a cover 241 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: up of the Biden scandal. All of this and it 242 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: is just swirling, swirling, swirling, and the media, because most 243 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: of them are owned by right wing Republican billionaires, are 244 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: just running with it. So there's no nuance here. And 245 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: I wonder how detrimental do you think that this actually is. 246 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: I actually think the Republican politicians are not deep thinkers well, 247 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: because every time they criticize Joe Biden for having documents 248 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: he admittedly shouldn't have had, they are criticizing Donald Trump 249 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: a thousand times over for doing the same thing with 250 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: criminal intent. To the thousandth degree that Joe Biden did. 251 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: So every time a Republican says Joe Biden needs to 252 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: be held accountable for this, I say, and therefore what 253 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: you're saying is Donald Trump needs to be held accountable 254 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: a thousand times more seriously, because what he did is 255 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: a thousand times worse than what you're saying Joe Biden did. Right, 256 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: So the minute they start saying prosecute Biden, well then 257 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: they're announcing that they agree Trump needs to be prosecuted. Now, 258 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: Biden doesn't need to be prosecuted unless this investigation reveals 259 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: that he intentionally took and criminally retained these documents. But 260 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: there's one easy fact that does away with all this. 261 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: The National Archives never even asked him for a document 262 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: because they didn't know anything was missing. Because it's just 263 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: like a handful of stuff that probably did get inadvertently 264 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: stuck in a box and packed up by a staffer. 265 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 1: That I mean again talk about night and day. You know, 266 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: there is a defense in the criminal law called the stake. 267 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: There's a defense in the criminal law called accident. I 268 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: mean literally, if you look in the you know the 269 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: rules of procedure, you look in the appellate case law. 270 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: You look in the statutes, there are defenses called mistake accident. 271 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: Those are defenses to crime. Why because if you do 272 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: something mistakenly or you do something accidentally, there's no criminal 273 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: act and there's certainly no criminal intent. So you know, 274 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 1: come on, as long as this new Special Council is 275 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: an honest, you know, broker of the facts and the law, 276 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: then he should pretty quickly. And here's the other distinguishing feature. 277 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: Everybody at this early stage, based on the reporting, everybody 278 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: he's asking to interview, is like, please, if you if 279 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,239 Speaker 1: you want me there at ten am, I'll be there 280 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: at nine thirty to tell you everything I know, as 281 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: opposed to Team Trump fighting tooth and nail and saying 282 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: I don't remember and not being willing to submit to interviews. 283 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: Come on, at the end of the day, this has 284 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: to shake out. I mean, my thing is that and 285 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: then will transition to Jack Smith. But my concern, Glenn 286 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: is that this turns into a Komy situation, which is 287 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: in October right of twenty sixteen, Komey says, Oh, we're 288 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: reopening the investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails three weeks before 289 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: the fucking election. Two then turn around and say, oh, yeah, 290 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: but we didn't find anything. I'm great observation, great observation, 291 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: and I hope that once Jack Smith and I'm excited 292 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: to talk about Jackson in a minute, I really am. 293 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: Once the indictments start to drop, that is going to 294 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: take up all the oxy and I think a lot 295 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: of these other flipping ridiculous distractions are going to melt away. 296 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: You know, we had to contend with the judge a 297 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: lean Kennon appointing a special mastered distraction, right, and then 298 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: ultimately that melted away. I think once Jack Smith starts 299 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: dropping criminal indictments on the heads of Donald Trump and 300 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: his co conspirators, a lot of this other stuff is 301 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: going to melt away. But what you just articulated is 302 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: a huge concern if this special counsel her his last 303 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: name is hu r Her, if he is not an 304 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: honest broker of the facts and the law and doesn't 305 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: move out in a timely manner. This is a very 306 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: bite sized investigation. Who packed up the boxes how today 307 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: end up where they ended up? Investigation concluded. So I'm 308 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: less concerned about that unless her is a true Trump 309 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: loyalist who is willing to unethically proceed with this investigation. Okay, 310 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: switching gears to Jack Smith. What's what's the latest? This is? 311 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: This is beautiful, It's beautiful and it's appalling all at once. 312 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: So you know again, I was on with Carol Lennig 313 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: and some others on with Nicole Wallace last night. We 314 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: talked about all this. Carol and her team at the 315 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: Washington Post broke some reporting that in early December, Jack 316 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: Smith carpet bombed some folks with subpoenas, and those subpoenas 317 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: covered more than a dozen categories of evidence. It was 318 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: fake electors. It was all communications that Trump's people had 319 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 1: with state election officials. It was investigating the financing of 320 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: the Save America pack and the Legal Defense Fund pack, 321 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: which we all know was all about fraud and not 322 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: at all about legitimate fund raising. It was in this 323 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: one I love. He was sending subpoenas to witnesses saying, 324 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: I want to know who's paying your attorney's legal bills, 325 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: and I want you to provide me with the attorney 326 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: retainer fee fee agreement because I'm not going to take 327 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: your word for it. I want to damn paperwork. Why 328 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: because what we learned about Cassidy Hutchinson being represented by 329 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: Stefan Passantino, who was on Team Trump rather than on 330 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: Team Hutchinson his own client. Right, Jack Smith is going 331 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: scorched earth, and he's going a million miles an hour. 332 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: These subpoenas Danielle that he sent out went out in 333 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: early December. We're just learning about them now. Jack Smith 334 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: was appointed on November eighteenth. What does that and he 335 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: wasn't even in country, he was recovering from a triathlon accident. 336 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: What does that tell you about the pace he is setting? Okay, 337 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: that's a good thing, and I want to talk about 338 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: how hopefully the third time a charm Bob Muller, Merrick Garland, 339 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: jack Smith, what we can hope we finish up with that. 340 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: But so that's a beautiful thing from this aggressive former 341 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: prosecutor's perspective. But it also tells us that these basic 342 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: investigative steps that Jack Smith is taking, we're not taken 343 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: for a year and a half under Merrick Garland. And 344 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: what we're gonna have to do when this sad chapter 345 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: of our nation's history is behind us and Trump and 346 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: company are in orange jumpsuits, We're going to have to 347 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: do an autopsy why the Department of Justice failed to 348 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: meet the moment under Merrick Garland. I still don't happen 349 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: to believe it's because Garland is corrupt. I think he's 350 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: too much judge and not enough prosecutor. I don't think 351 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: he had I don't think he had it in him 352 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: to make difficult, aggressive law enforcement decisions, prosecutorial decisions. He 353 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: treated everything like it was, you know, a meeting of 354 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: his clerks in his chambers, trying to figure things out, 355 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: and engaged in what I call legal naval gazing and 356 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: analysis paralysis and all that. But we're going to need 357 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: to know why the Department of Justice under Merrick Garland 358 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 1: failed to meet the moment? What was that a product 359 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: of because we're going to have to learn from it, 360 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: just like the J six investigation is helping us learn 361 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: what legislation is needed to avoid this from ever happening again. 362 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, and I feel 363 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: like I've been fooled a couple of times, and I 364 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: run the risk of being fooled a third time because 365 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: I thought Bob Muller was going to bring it home 366 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: full disclosure, he was my chief of Homicide. I think 367 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: highly of him. I think if you read his report, 368 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: he documented in meticulous fashion the obstruction of justice crimes 369 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump committed, and he testified that Donald Trump can 370 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: be indicted the day he leaves office. But of course 371 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: he never was. And that's Marrek Garland's decision as well. 372 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: Even though Marek Garland wasn't in place on the day 373 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump left office, he came, I believe in March, 374 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: a couple of months later. Still the principal holes. There 375 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: were these crimes that could have been brought and you 376 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: decided not to bring them that we will need to 377 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: do an autopsy on. Right, So Bob Muller couldn't bring 378 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: it home. And let's remember I always have to say this, 379 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: Bob Muller was laboring under this horrific DJ policy that 380 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: you can't indict a sitting criminal president, which is the 381 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: stuff of banana republics. I don't understand why we announce 382 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: mister president, please please commit all the crimes you want 383 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: because we were Trump is running again. Why do we 384 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: think that, right? Because it's the best cover for him, 385 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: exactly so? And then so Bob Muller couldn't bring it home. 386 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: Marek Garland couldn't bring it home. We have a saying 387 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: third times a charm, and you know it may sound 388 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: trite and cliche, but it's a saying that has grown 389 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: up for a particular reason. And now we're on the 390 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: third go round Jack Smith. I'm hoping third time is 391 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: a charm. And at least I'm comforted by the fact 392 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 1: that Jack Smith has brought some scorched earth prosecutions against 393 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: Republican criminals, Democrat political criminals, CIA officers. He is a 394 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: hard charger against criminals who are Republicans and criminals who 395 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: are Democrats, and he brings difficult cases and sometimes he 396 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: wins and sometimes he loses. And I like the fact 397 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: that he loses because that proves to me he's not 398 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: afraid to bring them. And so I have some confidence, 399 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: based on his bona FIDE's that maybe the third time 400 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: will be the charm. The last question for you, Gleam, 401 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: it is January. We are two years removed now from 402 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: the insurrection. We have watched the copycat version play out 403 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: in Brazil. Low and behold. Law enforcement in Brazil reminded 404 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: us that people can be arrested same day for the 405 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: crimes that they commit and broad frigging daylight. So we 406 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: now know about these subpoenas. What are we I mean, 407 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: shake your crystal ball for me. What are we thinking 408 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: in terms of these magical indictments that we've been waiting 409 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: on for two plus years? And if you include the 410 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: Mueller Report, we're going back further than that. Yeah, And 411 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: so you know what, I've got Georgia on my mind 412 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: because what we learned about Fannie Willis's investigation is her 413 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: special grand Jury has concluded its work and issued a 414 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: report that is not yet public. And listen, I gotta 415 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: give props to Fannie Willis because she just beat those 416 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: scared little boys who kept running away from the grand jury. 417 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: You know, I call him the littlest General Mike Flynn, 418 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: the littlest Mayor Rudy Giuliani, and the littlest Senator Lindsey Graham, 419 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: all of who whom were so scared to go into 420 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: the grand jury in Georgia, and they ran to the courts. 421 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: Lindsay ran all the way up to the Supreme Court, 422 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: and all three of them went in the grand jury. 423 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: And that is because of Fannie Willis's determination. She beat 424 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: them like a drum. Now with the report in hand, 425 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: which if I had to look into the crystal ball, 426 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: I would bet says crimes were committed, here's the folk 427 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: that committed them. They need to be charged. Fannie Willis 428 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: goes back to the regular grand jury in Georgia that 429 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: has the power to indict, and she indicts. That's what 430 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: I think is coming. That's what I think. There's a 431 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: court hearing on January twenty the issue of should the 432 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: report be released publicly. There are open open reports laws 433 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: in Georgia that have an exception that say, you know, 434 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: stuff should be made public unless it would impede an 435 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: ongoing investigation. I have a feeling we're not going to 436 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: see that report because this investigation is ongoing. But the 437 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: regular grand jury is also back sitting on January twenty fourth. 438 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: We could see we could see indictments within a matter 439 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: of weeks, but stay tuned for that. I think. I 440 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: think those are the first indictments were likely to see. 441 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: You know, Jack Smith, the documents crimes. It seems to 442 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: me that they have everything they need. Now do they 443 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: feel like they need more? Do they feel like they 444 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: need belt and suspenders before bringing charges? Maybe? But I 445 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: think that those charges could drop in the next couple 446 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: of months. Insurrection charges I think are still a pretty 447 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: you know, complex and instigation. Lots of these subpoenas that 448 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: just went out involve the insurrection. I don't expect to 449 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: see those. I think those will be charges to drop. 450 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: So I would say Georgia documents crimes insurrection. Okay, all right, 451 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: Well we'll sit tight, Glenn, and we will talk to 452 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: you next week and see where we are. As always, 453 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: really appreciate your insight and analysis, and hopefully one day, Glenn, 454 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: we will sit here and say, with our champagne cheers, 455 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: justice finally does matter. Appreciate you, Thank you, Daniel. That 456 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: is it for me today. Dear friends on woke app 457 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: as always, power to the people and to all the people. Power, 458 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.