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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lalli. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: There's only one. There could be only one. I think

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of them out there that could be

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Speaker 2: only one. You're like the Highlander. There's there's only one.

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Speaker 2: I never saw that. You've never seen a Highland.

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Speaker 3: You've referenced it like fifteen times in the last since

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Speaker 3: we've been doing this, And I know the concept, but

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Speaker 3: I never saw it.

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Speaker 2: So I just sit he him be quiet about it.

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Speaker 2: I like, I don't know. Maybe it's a guy movie.

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Speaker 2: I don't know it is, but I'm a guy. I

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Speaker 2: think I qualified from all of accounts. Again, I haven't

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Speaker 2: seen it, but it's it's a great movie.

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Speaker 3: Is it similar to the Sith concept? But there's always

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Speaker 3: like an apprentice and a master and the apprentice always

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Speaker 3: the idea is.

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Speaker 1: That they're there. I don't even know why. They don't

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Speaker 1: really ever explain why. There's these magical beings that they

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Speaker 1: can't die.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and so there.

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Speaker 1: So at the end of it, I haven't seen it

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Speaker 1: a long time. They have the things at the end,

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Speaker 1: at the end of whatever, when they all gain one,

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Speaker 1: there can be only one at the end of this

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Speaker 1: at the Quickening I think it.

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Speaker 2: Was called, and they all meet.

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Speaker 1: So over the years they all kill each other, but

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Speaker 1: you have to you have to chop the other guy's

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Speaker 1: head off.

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Speaker 2: The only way you can kill them.

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Speaker 1: So they all battle with these swords and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Like that, and there has to be one standing it's

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Speaker 3: all said and done. Okay, yeah, well interesting part of that.

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Speaker 3: That's me amongst all. Matt Williams, the guy who's the

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Speaker 3: bad guy in the movie. I think he's the Gorgon.

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Speaker 1: The guy who's the bad guy is actually the voice

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Speaker 1: of mister Crabs SpongeBob.

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Speaker 2: Okay, nice, So that's good stuff. Yeah. I bet he's

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Speaker 2: more popular for Crabs probably, so yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So anyways, I think we'd be talking that then

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Speaker 1: no other sure, I screwed the movie.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to go down the SpongeBob route because

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Speaker 3: kind of Smith's SpongeBob.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know SpongeBob, Super Sungebob. And it was

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Speaker 2: always good. I liked it. I mean, it wasn't on

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Speaker 2: much of my house with my kids.

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Speaker 1: If SpongeBob would have been on when I was in college,

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Speaker 1: I probably would have never left. Well, I didn't leave

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Speaker 1: my dorm room.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, we did a lot of ren and stimpy along

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Speaker 3: those lines, right, sort of similar genre. Yeah, let's throw

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Speaker 3: another one on and do some other stuff and not

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Speaker 3: leave the room.

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Speaker 1: So, man, I was just telling you before the Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm watching Ravens Browns. I've done so watched it last night.

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Speaker 1: I watched a little bit more. I watched it again. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: so I've seen it now twice. And the thing that

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Speaker 1: jumped out to me was it every time Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: threw the ball outside the numbers in that game, the

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Speaker 1: ball sailed wildly out of balance.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was super windy during that game.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think there was a little weather, but not brutal.

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Speaker 3: So I think you've watched the game more than I did.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I've done tons of all my Browns homeworks.

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Speaker 3: I went stats for the last twenty four hours. I've

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Speaker 3: been hitting it hard. He completed all his balls on

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Speaker 3: the in the second half, but they weren't real.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of what they were like maybe

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Speaker 1: Joku like he's real good after the catch, yeah, or

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Speaker 1: getting more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Elijah Moore of them were the ones that got

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Speaker 2: all the targets and it was all short stuff and

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Speaker 3: And it worked reasonably well, you know, I mean they

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Speaker 3: moved the football, they controlled the clock. But what I've

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Speaker 3: noticed with Watson, especially in a Browns uniform, he doesn't

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Speaker 3: control the football.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, he doesn't.

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Speaker 3: There's a difference between completing a high percentage of passes.

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Speaker 2: They catch it.

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Speaker 3: But like Ben had great control of the football, I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw it with a great trajectory, you know,

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Speaker 3: like the great passers control the ball really well. A

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Speaker 3: lot of it's with a combination with Ben in particular,

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Speaker 3: and anyone that been around Ben at all. He's great

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Speaker 3: at all sports. He's great hands, not just foot quit

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Speaker 3: in his power. Yeah, I don't see that with wat

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Speaker 3: He's great hole, you know, right, Yeah, no matter what.

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Speaker 3: I bet he's phenomenal golf anything, you know, not even

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Speaker 3: like super run around, be big and strong stuff. But

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Speaker 3: I don't see that with Watson controlling the football.

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Speaker 1: going to be tested, but a lot of it's a

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Speaker 1: lot of even the passes that he did complete down

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Speaker 1: things of that nature. Uh, And it was a lot

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Speaker 3: Think so as well. So leaves me the question though,

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Speaker 3: can the Steelers are they in a position to play

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Speaker 3: as much man as they used to? I mean, I

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Speaker 3: guess the question I was going to ask you, would

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Speaker 3: you follow with Joey Porter this week?

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Speaker 2: Would you put him on Amari Cooper?

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Speaker 3: You know how I do those matchups? Cooper versus Porter

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Speaker 3: started with will the Steelers have him shadow or at least,

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Speaker 3: you know, follow him in high leverage situations, you know,

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Speaker 3: like he he followed Hopkins a lot, but always in

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Speaker 3: like red zone and third down, you know, like maybe

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Speaker 1: Some of that with Watson. Early in the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: They didn't left right it against Watson, But I don't

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Speaker 3: know if they thought as a game went on, maybe

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Speaker 3: Watson's on much a threat as we thought.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, or let's just keep it simple.

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Speaker 1: Just yeah, they just they just maybe it was because

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Speaker 1: of all the injuries that they had and that they

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Speaker 1: couldn't you know, we've got guys out there who we

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Speaker 1: really didn't you know, I expect to have out there.

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Speaker 1: So we can't travel because as you've always mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Said, we've talked with this a time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you have a cornerback travel, everybody not only

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Speaker 1: does his job, his job stays the same.

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Speaker 2: Actually, right, he guard that guy, regard that guy.

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Speaker 1: Everybody else's job changes though when that guy goes in

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Speaker 3: Right right, they all have to adjust accordingly. So I

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Speaker 3: bet that's it. I didn't give that much thought, but

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Speaker 3: I bet that's why they change. Was communication is a

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Speaker 3: big enough problem as it is. We're gonna left right it.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna play as simple as we can. So, assuming

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Speaker 3: Minko returns, Cooper and Porter would be a good matchup

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Speaker 3: for him, you know, Like I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: went Porter against Ty one on one, you know, but

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Speaker 3: I mean a physical.

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Speaker 2: You know, good player, real good player.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to see a Porter could do against them,

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Speaker 3: and you know KZ Neil those I mean Peterson, Peterson

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Speaker 3: terms of snapcounts, Peterson and Porter played every snap, Wallace

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Speaker 3: depends what formations you getting all that stuff, of course,

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Speaker 3: away from it. But that makes all the sense in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean, I think that's one thing that

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff will certainly consider this week. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot would be dependent upon getting Makeing

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick back. Mike Tomlin not really committing to that this week.

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Speaker 1: He did say that they expects Pat Freiermouth back this

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Speaker 1: non committal on making Fitzpatrick.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: He also talked about you know, what they were doing

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Speaker 1: so I would assume that it'll be Michael I.

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Speaker 2: Must say, Michael Walker must be somebody that's of interest, he.

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Speaker 1: Said, Yeah, he talked about him and said, look, we've

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Speaker 1: this day like it wasn't you know, he doesn't need

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Speaker 1: He's not a guy that you have there hoping that

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Speaker 1: he turns into something.

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Speaker 2: He's the fallback plan.

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Speaker 1: He's the fallback. I feel like he is.

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Speaker 2: I can see that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The other thing I did since we got together is

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Speaker 3: I did a lot more Walker homework and I remembered

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Speaker 3: him coming out and I remember him a little with Atlanta,

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Speaker 3: but he played like between seven and eight hundred snaps

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Speaker 2: For the Falcons and then one hundred tackle. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's been around the block. He's not going

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Speaker 3: He's like six ' three with long arms, kind of

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Speaker 3: like that Leonard. Actually the guys like the Packers have,

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Speaker 3: But where I concerned about him. I think what holds

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Speaker 3: him back is his change of direction. He's a clunky athlete,

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Speaker 3: pretty well. At his combine, but when he's changing directions

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: But the more I watched him more I thought, eh,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, there could be worse things to

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Speaker 3: pull off the practice squad, you know what I mean. Like,

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Speaker 3: I can see why they would say, we're just going

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Speaker 3: to roll with him. We've been coaching them up, you know,

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Speaker 3: as the defense and go from there. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 3: think Neil's gonna be a full time linebacker.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Neil will play a lot of

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Speaker 1: that when Mega Fitzpatrick is back. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they want to do that this week in turn to

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Speaker 1: you know, Elijah Riley at free safety and move KZ

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Speaker 1: over to the strong in those situations, that's what they

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Speaker 1: end up doing in game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I must was kind of assuming Minka returns him

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Speaker 2: and Kz become interchangeable. Riley's your third guy, you know.

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Speaker 2: I don't want Riley in deep middle, but I kind

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Speaker 2: of I don't mind him in the slot or other

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Speaker 3: And he makes plays. I mean, he's not horrible either.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll attack him and no attack walker like

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Speaker 3: any new people on defense. But it's not as dire

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Speaker 3: I don't want Roberts playing eighty five percent of snaps either,

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of scheming and you know, perceived pressures

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think the Ravens did get to

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Speaker 2: Matters matters and the poor offensive coordinator gets fired. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: But anyway that I did, it like a direct comparison

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Speaker 3: Longer to anybody. I think he's number one or last.

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Speaker 2: He's not. I mean, you can get to him.

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Speaker 2: I think they're still into him playing his way back

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I didn't think he was a dominant player

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Speaker 2: You need to know about what they think about Benon. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right We're trying to win these games, and we think

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Speaker 1: I mean Benton's had to had to play a lot

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Speaker 2: You can mix him Watts and those guys, you know, But.

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Speaker 1: Now you're getting to that point where okay, weighty games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I should be uh, my body should be resting

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Speaker 1: Watson that you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I also wonder if they got a if Harball

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Speaker 3: got a little complacent saying, we kind of got the

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Speaker 3: thing in the bag, let's just get it over with.

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Speaker 2: And then it.

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Speaker 1: Was really kind of fluky too, because ball off the

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Speaker 1: helmet they got intercepted and returned for a touchdown. Game

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Speaker 1: is pretty much over at that point if that doesn't happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they needed something, They needed five things to happen, and

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Speaker 1: they all did and even though the strip sack that

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Speaker 1: happens on their I think it was on their game

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Speaker 1: winning drive. Early in the game winning drive they get it.

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Speaker 1: It's like second play of the drive. They get the

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Speaker 1: strip sack on Deshaun Watson. Ball goes bounding back there

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Speaker 1: and one of their offensive linemen just happens to be

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Speaker 1: there and balls on it.

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Speaker 2: That was game's over. Games over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there were a lot of plays that could

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Speaker 3: have won either way. I mean, block a kick. I

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Speaker 3: mean there's kind of fluky as well, speaking of which

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Speaker 3: you texted me after it happened. How about James Cook

461
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Speaker 3: running down the field last night flat out, ball comes

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Speaker 3: flying out, just bounces up.

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Speaker 2: He's on a dead run. Yeah he is.

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Speaker 1: He has got the motor, it's opened up. He's in

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Speaker 1: open field and he just came out and it bounces

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Speaker 1: right back.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, he's Magic. Johnson going down the court is

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Speaker 2: as fluky as fluky. Yes, he even slowed out. If

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Speaker 2: that ball lands a half inch this way or a

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Speaker 2: half inch that way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, what happens right, Yeah, he just bounces right

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Speaker 3: up to him at in stride like he's dribbling down

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Speaker 3: the court.

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Speaker 1: I also want to remind people that, you know, we've

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Speaker 1: said it. I've been saying for a few weeks now

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Speaker 1: that the Bills are in trouble. Bills are they're They're done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they fired offense coordinator. They're done.

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Speaker 3: And they're the third best EPA and d v o

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Speaker 3: A offense in the league. They averaged seven point one

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Speaker 3: yards for play last night. He didn't put twelve guys

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Speaker 3: out there to block a fear.

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Speaker 1: He did not He didn't throw the picks, you know,

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Speaker 1: drop the ball on on a handoff, you know, right

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Speaker 1: right right Like.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're not going to fire all and I

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Speaker 2: get that, or or the head coach, but man, I

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Speaker 2: don't think the offensive coordinator need to be the one

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Speaker 2: to go. Well, we just don't know what's going on

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes. I've already gotten this.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, look, look they're good. You know they're

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Speaker 1: firing their offensive coordinator. It's the middle of the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because they're five and five and they're not expected to

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Speaker 1: be five and five.

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Speaker 3: They might be the most disappointing in the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you consider an expectations. They were a lot

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Speaker 3: of Super Bowl picks. I don't think there are no playoffs.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either. And uh, you know

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Speaker 2: again the schedules.

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Speaker 1: If if the Cincinnati Bengals don't win, yeah, on Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: Both those teams, they're in deep trouble, way worse shaping

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. Yeah, So enjoy what you got it, folks.

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Speaker 1: Our friend of the show, of course, Adam Crowley tweeting

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Speaker 1: out the difference between what's going on in Cleveland right now,

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Speaker 1: where they're super excited about being six and three, they're

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Speaker 1: ready to hold parades, and Pittsburgh where they're six and

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Speaker 1: three and everybody.

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Speaker 2: So this team's not very good. Perception is important. Huh.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of different history, trust me, I've been there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, we're gonna get to a break.

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Speaker 2: Matt. I just saw a little blurb.

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Speaker 1: Here that Nick Chubb finally had surgery on his a

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Speaker 1: c L that he injured in the game against the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: That's been two months. It was week two, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was week two. Yeah. My first thought was I

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Speaker 2: wonder if overplay again?

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I mean that's that's a long I mean,

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Speaker 1: there were other things wrong in there, right, and you know,

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Speaker 1: typically they have to wait for the swelling to go

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Speaker 1: down before he can.

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Speaker 2: That's usually like a week or two, right, not two months? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not two months. I didn't take that as good news.

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Speaker 3: I figured he was when I saw Nick Chobb pop

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Speaker 3: up on a blur, might, Oh, I guess there's gonna

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Speaker 3: be good news. Maybe he's had a schedule or something.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that's that happening of course against the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe he'll play next year. I wouldn't. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean, i'm talking career stuff now.

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Speaker 1: You're basically less than you know, basically a ten month

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Speaker 1: recovery period before they start of next season. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: be off difficult.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how you feel for him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, great player, but the Browns have made

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Speaker 1: it work with Jerome Ford and he's been very effective.

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Speaker 3: He's the lead guy, you know, like we talk a

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Speaker 3: lot of fantasy. Hunt still has the goal line stuff,

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Speaker 3: it appears, but Ford's pretty much two to one in them,

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Speaker 3: more or less, and I think he's a better player,

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Speaker 3: to be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a nice game this one.

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Speaker 1: This is a team though, that being the Browns. Getting

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Speaker 1: back to my favorite stat, they'll put the ball on

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Speaker 1: the ground, Yeah, they sure do. They've done it fifteen

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Speaker 1: times this year.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: That's not quite at the level who was at the

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Speaker 1: seil It die of the Titans a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: I think had they might have been fifteen in their

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Speaker 1: first eight games or something like that. But that's a

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Speaker 1: high number.

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Speaker 2: It's a high number.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned before, Watson's a culprit. He's got five this year.

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Speaker 3: No, their turnover stuff in general is really high. They

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Speaker 3: might lead the league in They're very good taking the

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Speaker 3: ball away. Their defensive numbers are tremendous in all facets.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers are the best. The Steelers actually the best

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Speaker 3: turnover margin in the entire already dead I thought they.

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Speaker 2: Were last nineteen. Gives to me that might be the

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Speaker 2: key to the game.

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Speaker 1: So if you look at the team games that they're

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Speaker 1: there with, Buffalo is second at eighteen after last night's the.

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Speaker 2: Boss saw what they're doing, right, Yeah, Perflay the game.

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Speaker 1: The Bears are at eighteen as well, and then you

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Speaker 1: have the Raiders at eighteen.

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Speaker 2: And I think the Browns have already had their buy too.

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Speaker 2: They've had one less game than.

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Speaker 1: Some one fewer game and they still lead to lead.

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Speaker 1: So it's over two per game.

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Speaker 2: It's brutal. I mean, everyone remembers Week two.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, that was that Chubb game we were talking about,

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Speaker 3: but they had the Steelers turned ball over twice, which

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Speaker 3: is uncharacteristic for them. Browns turned it over four, were

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Speaker 3: over two on fourth downs and missed the kick. They

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Speaker 3: turn over seven times in reality. Yeah, I mean you

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Speaker 3: want to wonder how you lose, you know, so it's massive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to talk about how the Steelers can

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Speaker 1: win this game, Well, they're number one into you know,

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Speaker 1: taking the ball away or turnover differentially.

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Speaker 2: Right, and they're good in both regards. They take it

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Speaker 2: away and they.

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Speaker 1: And they take it in their nine games, they have

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Speaker 1: eight that they're tied for the league lead. There are

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Speaker 1: three or four teams tied for the league lead and takeaways,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals, the Saints, the Steelers, and Jaguars. The Saints

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Speaker 1: have played one more game some of those. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: the Steelers are also the one team out of that

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Speaker 1: group that really they in the Bengals take the best

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Speaker 1: care of the football.

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Speaker 2: They're both plus ten.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, they're up there for two reasons, not

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Speaker 3: just one. Yeah, absolutely plus ten.

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Speaker 1: Is you want to talk how hard to do with

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Speaker 1: the steel How are the Steelers six and three right now?

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Speaker 1: Plus ten?

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Speaker 3: So I reference EPA a lot, And there's this chart

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Speaker 3: that shows how much you benefit from giving the ball

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Speaker 3: away and taking the ball away. The Steelers are in

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Speaker 3: the far far right corner, you know, like the upper

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Speaker 3: right corner in terms of being the best in the

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Speaker 3: league really at both you know, and they they've generated

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Speaker 3: the most EPA from tournament whatever term you want. But

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Speaker 3: they're benefiting more from turnovers than anyone in the league.

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Speaker 2: I got a little breaking news here, man.

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Speaker 3: While you check that out, I want one other thing.

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Speaker 3: They're also phenomenal at taking the ball away in the

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Speaker 3: red zone. They're to lead the league in that too.

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Speaker 3: Just if you narrow it down, what's the news.

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Speaker 1: The news is the Steelers have officially placed Alexander on

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Speaker 1: the reserve injured list. They also released guard Joey Fisher

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Speaker 1: and tight end Scotty Washington from the practice squad. Well,

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Speaker 1: you don't need space, you don't need the extra tight

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Speaker 1: end if you've got one coming back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: But assume our guy goes back, Rodney Tom Thomas Williams,

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Speaker 1: Rodney Williams goes back to the practice in Firemuth comes back.

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Speaker 1: So that's a good a good sign there. They didn't

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Speaker 1: sign anybody yet in terms of linebackers. The linebackers, they

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Speaker 1: didn't elevate anybody yet. But that's going to happen here

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Speaker 1: at some point. That they could even wait all week

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Speaker 1: long before they do that.

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Speaker 2: Reci Walker. Yeah, I mean he's in practice and you

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Speaker 2: know you can get him ready either way. Interesting. So

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Speaker 2: so they now have a roster spot to play with

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Speaker 2: that's going to fire.

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Speaker 1: Well not right away though, because all they they're gonna

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday they'll open up his twenty one day window.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so that's it. He's not even going on today,

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Speaker 3: so there's wait. So they took someone off the regular roster,

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Speaker 3: right Quan, Yes, but now they're they.

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Speaker 1: Also they also released Braden Fojoko yesterday, so they've really

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Speaker 1: got two roster responds.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but they cut to practice squad people, yes, hopefully

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Speaker 3: for Hoko ends up with one of those.

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Speaker 1: Forko probably gets one of those, and then the other

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Speaker 1: one goes to.

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Speaker 2: Williams. Well, okay, when he goes down friarmooth things, Williams.

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Speaker 1: But then you're also going to elevate linebackers Walker preferable.

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Speaker 2: Presum Walker will.

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Speaker 1: Be one, but you probably you might do two because

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Speaker 1: you brought you brought.

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Speaker 2: Tarika. Uh yeah, I can't think of his name now.

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Speaker 3: I can't either, but he's I did a little bit

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Speaker 3: of homework on him to safety turned linebacker special teamer. Yeah,

660
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: I mean he was active for that game, Yes, and

661
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 3: he played every every snap of special teams.

662
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: Didn't see the defense.

663
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: So I kind of when I wrote the article said,

664
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 3: I don't think that they're looking at him as the linebacker.

665
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: Answer, you know, kind of what he is.

666
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: That's what he was even last y, you know when

667
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: he was with uh Carpenter, Uh he had nine tackles

668
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: last year.

669
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: I believe for for Green Bay on there on.

670
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: Special team, special teams, he's a good special team or

671
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: he's a real safety linebacker tweet.

672
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: Because that's the other that's the other trickle down effect

673
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: from this. Now you start losing some of these other guys,

674
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: now other you know, other players. So Mark Robinson probably

675
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: doesn't play any special teams.

676
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's his situation? Can't do it? He was at

677
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: the top of the team with that, Yeah, so you

678
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: need somebody to replace those snaps. So I think that's

679
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: why he was active for the Packer game.

680
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 3: Was Hey, we need another core special team or you're

681
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: good at it, not breaking class in case of emergency.

682
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that would that would be the I would

683
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: expect Michael Walker to be elevated and maybe Carpenter to

684
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: be elevated as well. That fills your two spots to

685
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, now you're back to four, having four

686
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: inside linebackers again.

687
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: So do you think when you said that about Robinson

688
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: on special teams, I wonder if Walker jumps Robinson.

689
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't think so away. There might be it might

690
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: be situational.

691
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they wanted three to play that.

692
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: Probably, maybe you rotate those guys, you know, in the

693
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: short term, and maybe there's times when it's you know,

694
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: Landon Roberts isn't out there and.

695
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: You have you have Neil as well. Whoever. Yeah, yeah,

696
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: but I think you're figuring that out as you go.

697
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: I don't know that you want a land Of Roberts

698
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: out there at twenty nine years old all the time. No,

699
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: because you can't. You really can't afford to lose him

700
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: at this point, not that you played.

701
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: You don't want to live live in your fears, right.

702
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: But he's a very physical player.

703
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 3: He's a very physical player. But I'll say he's one dimensional.

704
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: But I don't want him covering Christan McCaffrey. Yeah, I mean,

705
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 3: thankfully they're not on the schedule. I got that one

706
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: out of the way. But yeah, in the middle of

707
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: the field, I don't think he covers the ground in

708
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 3: reverse or left right that you want You're gonna be

709
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: looking for that, whether that's Neil or one of these two.

710
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: Well, I would think you want Neil up there a lot, because,

711
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: as we mentioned in the opening segment, the Browns was

712
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: what they did last week was a lot of dump

713
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: offs to Djoku.

714
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,959
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, he he has more yards after catch than

715
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: every tight end of the league either these number oneeries too. Yeah,

716
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 3: and you were talking about that off the air, like

717
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: get it to him and then he's getting eight after

718
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: the catch.

719
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: He's still had He still had another big drop in

720
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: that game. It was one of there was one along

721
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: the sidelines where the ball it was maybe the only

722
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: ball to the sideline that Deshaun Watson threw, well, it

723
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: was on target and he went boo and dropped.

724
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely some inconsistencies there.

725
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: That's a good point, though. I could see Neil and

726
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: the Jokho tying up together a lot. Yeah, Yeah, it

727
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense. Whether it's a strong safety, linebacker,

728
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: we call him whatever you want, but.

729
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: The turnover thing is real with these Browns, and so

730
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: are the sacks. If you look at Deshaan Watson's and

731
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: it's really him more than anything else.

732
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: It's not a Browns problem as much as it's a

733
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: Watson problem.

734
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it because if you look at the sack percentages

735
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: on their quarterbacks or the rate I should say, PJ.

736
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: Walkers at six point seven percent, So if he had

737
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: if he rosspec to pass one hundred times, he'd be

738
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: six six point seven times. Deshaun Watson's at nine point zero.

739
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: And he's always He's been like that at Clemson. I

740
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: mean he was like that his whole life.

741
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: He's been sacked seventeen times on one hundred and seventy

742
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: one drop sacks.

743
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: Yep.

744
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: And I think part of it's because he's a playmaker,

745
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: of course, and it'll hold the football, and I mentioned

746
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: last segment.

747
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: If he feels the backside pressure. I also think that's

748
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: part of it as well.

749
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 3: I don't think he leads those fumbles, leads the fumbles,

750
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: and he hangs the ball out a little bit, and

751
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: he's the longest of all the qualifying quarterbacks and time

752
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: to throw. I don't think that's a good recipe this week.

753
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: No, I think high Smith against whoever they line up

754
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: at left tackle is going to be an issue.

755
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: He's going to be an issue, right And frankly, I

756
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: thought the Steelers pass rush was a little underwhelming, which

757
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: makes me think this week it'll come back stronger than ever.

758
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: You know.

759
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: Well, there's a bit of a history there with some

760
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: of these like TJ. Watt in eleven games against the Browns,

761
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: the Browns the steel First of all, the Steelers are

762
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: nine to one and one in his games when he plays. Secondly,

763
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: he has seventeen sacks and there was eleven.

764
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: It was a lot. Yeah, that's a most against anybody, right,

765
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: and it's way more than Garrett's versus Steelers. Yeah, Garrett

766
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: has seven the opposite. Yeah.

767
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Steiler pass rush will be a

768
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: very real thing, and hopefully that results in many more

769
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: Browns turnovers because that's probably the biggest problem with the

770
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: team right now.

771
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that's the one thing they can't

772
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: The defense is good, it is.

773
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: We've been saying that since the Steelers played them in

774
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: Week two of this is an elite defense.

775
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: They are, they just are, but their problem is overcoming

776
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: their own offense. Because the offense turns.

777
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: Again you have that you've forced as many turnovers as

778
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: they forced and you're still their minus four.

779
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: As a team turnover wise. Yeah. Yeah, and they're great

780
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: at forcing them. Yeah. And they rush passer well and

781
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: they forced you to throw and all that stuff. Yeah.

782
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 4: One.

783
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: I mean, the their offense lacks efficiency consistency and it

784
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: hurts itself a lot, you know, so, and they don't

785
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: make up for it with well, at least they hit

786
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: a lot of eighty R bombs and things like that.

787
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: Not really, I mean, they're not a real big play offense,

788
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: and they want to run the ball on the clock

789
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: and they're pretty good at that.

790
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

791
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: Those fifteen fumbles that they've had, seven have been recovered

792
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: by the other team. They've also thrown twelve interceptions.

793
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: As a team.

794
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: Okay, some of that's on you know, the other slappy

795
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that they've thrown out there.

796
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Watson puts it in arms way. He's thrown

797
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: four of it. He's got a history of including a

798
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: lot of it.

799
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: He's thrown.

800
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: This is an unbelievable stat. Twice this season he has

801
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: opened the game with an interception that was returned for

802
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: a touchdown.

803
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really hard to do it, right, Like the

804
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: first play of the game, didn't even play the game

805
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: this year.

806
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: He missed some time too. That's a pretty good ratio.

807
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: Well maybe you'll do it five times this year at that, right,

808
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: it's crazy. Yeah, it's hard to do. So keep an

809
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: eye out on that first pass. Yeah, keep talking that one.

810
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: This is these are this is going off the script.

811
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: Oh right, right, that's crazy.

812
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: But it was you know the one this week, you

813
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: know the one that that happened against the Steelers. Okay,

814
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: it was a tip pass, but it was thrown behind

815
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: the title. It wasn't a good ball. This one last

816
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: week was just a safety coming on a blitz and

817
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: just jumped up.

818
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: And I mean the heck of a play by Hamilton too.

819
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 3: It's very talented player, but it's pretty crazy that there's

820
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: two already. It were you know, he's only played what.

821
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: Seven games in on your first play of the game,

822
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: first play the game, but like I guarantee you, most

823
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks don't do that in their career.

824
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 3: Of course, of course, and you would think you're extra

825
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: cautious with the first one, or or maybe maybe you're

826
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: actually remed up.

827
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's that's not so.

828
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, So at three, get to him, pressure him even

829
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: if you don't put him on the ground, uh, you know,

830
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: affect the throws.

831
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: Their passing game is very Cooper centric more and more,

832
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: and they're trying to get Elijah more incorporated. They traded

833
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 3: people's jones Cooper. I did a lot of homework on

834
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: him too, and he's a good player. But his numbers,

835
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 3: his numbers are much better with Watson than they were

836
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: with any other Browns quarterback, which to me, Wotson just

837
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: feeds them, you know, Watson trusts him the most, feeds

838
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: them the most. Then, as most people know, Cooper's numbers

839
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 3: at home are much better than they are on the road.

840
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: You know, I don't put a lot of faith in that,

841
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: except for historically he hasn't like playing in the cold,

842
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 3: which is weird.

843
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: I think it might be a little messy this weekend.

844
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: I guess that probably favors of Steelers that you think.

845
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: I would think so. But I'm just gonna call it

846
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: up here real quick. While we're talking about if my

847
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: little early you know, if the internet will work here,

848
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: but we go searching Cleveland, Ohio.

849
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, so.

850
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: It's a past funnel team largely those two guys. Yeah, yea,

851
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: you know they'll they'll they will incorporate the backs a

852
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: little bit here and a little bit. They're fine, but

853
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: just you know again, I would want to force him

854
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: to throw the ball outside the numbers.

855
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: The other thing they do a lot of is a

856
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: sixth offensive lineman. Yeah, they gave that an awful lot,

857
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: and I would.

858
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 3: I don't know if they want to go that deep

859
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 3: into the well now that they're down all their tackles,

860
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: or they even more willing to do it because their

861
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 3: tackles need tons of help.

862
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: Well, here you go, Matt high on Sunday. That's the

863
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: wrong weekend. That's this weekend.

864
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: Okay, here we want this weekend a high of forty seven,

865
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: a low of thirty eight. So little jelly for a

866
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: Mari Cooper. Yeah, it doesn't like to play in that

867
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: cold weather.

868
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: I'm more worried about wind and precipitation.

869
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: Thirteen mile an hour wind, which up there is kind

870
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: of what it always is, kind of what it always is.

871
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: If you look here, it's every day it's a thirteen

872
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: mile cleveland six percent chance of ring but partly cloudy.

873
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so I don't know who that favors. I mean,

874
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: Steelers want to run the ball and Brown the ball

875
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: right turnover certainly or a Steeler thing. I always think

876
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 3: about pass rush for sloppy conditions. I don't think you

877
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: get off the ball and really as well. But both

878
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: these teams rush the pass or really well, you know,

879
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: they've high end pass rushers, so I don't know.

880
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: Who that favors.

881
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: I just look kind of surprised at at Cleveland's pass

882
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: rush numbers. They're not mind bagged, they're not mine, but

883
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: they've they've only got two more sacks than what they've

884
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: given up.

885
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: It's thirty to twenty eight.

886
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: And if you if you look at the breakdown on it,

887
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: it's Miles Garrett with eleven, and then they have like

888
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: eleven or twelve other dudes that have like half a sacker,

889
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: but Tomlinson has three.

890
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's second.

891
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: Okaronkquoh, I can never pronounce it. Okonkuo as two and

892
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: a half, a Zadarius Smith has two and a half.

893
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: And then they got a bunch with like a half

894
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 2: yeah yeah.

895
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Elias. So they're they're front. They're getting them out

896
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: of their front. But you know it's not it's not

897
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: an overwhelming pass rush.

898
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: No, I mean, but they'll send a lot of guys.

899
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: They'll send a lot of guys.

900
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: They play a lot of man, they play a lot

901
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: of single high Their secondaries come on pretty strong. Their

902
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: linebackers are way healthier than last year. They look like

903
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 3: a good group, so I don't think they feel the

904
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: need to heat you up a lot. I think it's

905
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: going to be a lower blitz rate team. I probably

906
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: think they can get away with that here too. And

907
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: the one thing I didn't realize about Garrett is in

908
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: terms of percentage of pass rush attempts, he has the

909
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 3: most sacks, the highest percentage of getting home this year,

910
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 3: So I mean he's having a heck of a year.

911
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: He's a phenomenal player, but I kind of thought the

912
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 3: guys around him would produce a little more.

913
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did too. It's not a bad group, but

914
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: better than what he has played with.

915
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: If you look at his numbers, twenty eight tackles, eleven sacks,

916
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: nine tackles for a lost, twenty quarterback hits, they're almost identical.

917
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: To watch those, they're very similar to wats. Yeah, has

918
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: ten and a half sacks.

919
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: He has twenty quarterback hits, so I thought he had

920
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: at least twenty Yeah, Yeah.

921
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: I mean, so they're almost identical. I think Bosa is

922
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: the only one that has more hits than those two. Yeah. Yeah,

923
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: so you know, I think, oh they're very similar.

924
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: Control him, and yes, the Browns will get there at

925
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: time because they'll send more than you can block.

926
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 2: But no, don't let him blow dominate the game. And yeah,

927
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: without question, they're equal players to me. I mean they're

928
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: they're both.

929
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: The differences is that the Steelers have more I.

930
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: Think better than their two.

931
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, healthy Cam is better than their interior guys that

932
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: are more run stuff or types. Smith's a good player.

933
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: I mean he's a little bit different. I mean he's

934
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 3: not really, he's a little bit of everything. Jack ball trades.

935
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: But protect the football, protect the quarterback, and cause the turnovers.

936
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: Cause the turnovers.

937
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean that's where that's where the that's

938
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: what worry me most about brown stuff is we turn

939
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 3: all over a lot.

940
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no doubt.

941
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a lot. It's a lot, a lot.

942
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: And they missed a kick in that game. They've they've

943
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: missed three field goals this year.

944
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 3: And one of my notes I was have a hard

945
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: time come with special teams notes. But maybe you're looking

946
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: at it, but them versus their opponents in number of

947
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: field goals attempted. Crazy, it's money discrepancy, like I've never

948
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: seen anything like it.

949
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: So the Browns have attempted twenty seven field goals this year.

950
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: That's just a lot.

951
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: Their opponents have attempted thirteen, and their opponents have only

952
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: made eight.

953
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: Eight out of thirteen they've only made They've only had

954
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: eight field goals made against them all year.

955
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: They have there are more extra points, so they'll give

956
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: up touchdowns. Twenty extra points against them this year. They've

957
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: only scored fifteen touchdowns.

958
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they don't give up field goals. That that

959
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 3: field goal thing jumped off the page. I'm like, wow,

960
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: is that different? And they missed five of them out

961
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 3: of thirteen.

962
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: It makes me want to look at their red zone

963
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: numbers to see our teams just when they get down there,

964
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: they score red zone But.

965
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: I think partly because the Browns defense is really good.

966
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: Well, twenty red zone trips, they've given up thirteen touchdowns,

967
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: So it's sixty five percent.

968
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: I know they're not near the top of the Steelers

969
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: are forty percent. They're better. Yeah, yeah, they're definitely better.

970
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 3: So get down there and they turn them all over

971
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 3: a lot, or the Steelers turn you over a lot,

972
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: have a lot of pass defenses, things like that in

973
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 3: the red zone. Absolutely, it was that field goal things.

974
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: Crazy nuts, Yeah, crazy, how's that happen?

975
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: We're going to get to a break here.

976
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977
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978
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979
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Speaker 1: Jaylen Warren.

994
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: Nice, nice, well. I did some Warren homework over the

995
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: last twenty four hours. His numbers are astronomical and we'll

996
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: talk about that throughout the week.

997
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: Playing really well, really really well.

998
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, So today's question deals with running backs Willie Parker

999
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: or Cordell Stewart, who has the longest rush in a

1000
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: Steelers game against the Browns. That's that's actually a really

1001
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: good two good picks there.

1002
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet most people know the answer to that one,

1003
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 3: and of course I don't. I mean, they're both speedsters,

1004
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 3: plenty of long runs. I'm sure there's a memorable one

1005
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: that I don't remember. I'll go with Slash. But it's

1006
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 3: a total coin flip for me. I just flipped one

1007
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: in the air and it came up Slash. Yeah, your

1008
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: coin flips are not so good.

1009
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: Not so good.

1010
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: It's a mini helmet for Jalen Warren, who's a diminutive guy.

1011
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: He is and me he gets short in the hole.

1012
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: We were talking about that yesterday. But he's been doing

1013
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 2: really really well.

1014
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: And after the catch stuff, I mean both phases, but

1015
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: breaking tackles, explosive rates.

1016
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 2: All the stuff. If I study it's like Wow, he's

1017
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: at the top of the league.

1018
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been really good this year and it's not

1019
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: you know, they've started kind of gone to more of

1020
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: a split.

1021
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: Fifty to fifty type thing. But it's working out great though, Harris.

1022
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: They're keeping Harris fresh and Harris is running more routes

1023
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: than he used to too. Yeah. Yeah, I mean they're both.

1024
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 1: Just basically what they've done is just kind of okay,

1025
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: you're both just going to do the same kind of

1026
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: there's no drop off when either comes in.

1027
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: Well.

1028
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: The difference too, is they're not three out and left

1029
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: and right right, you know. I mean, there's more of

1030
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: a pie to split, and they're both feasting on it

1031
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: right now. And they're very, very different, but they both

1032
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: have some similarities too. They're both really hard to tackle.

1033
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: They're both good in the passing game. Warren's great in

1034
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 3: the passing game. I think Harris is probably the better

1035
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 3: pass blocker, but they battle, you man, the running back

1036
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: position is the strength of this team.

1037
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you look at what they've done here now,

1038
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, Harris is at four hundred and sixty four

1039
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: yards rushing, Jalen warrens at three hundred and sixty four

1040
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: so one hundred yard difference there between the two.

1041
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: Uh, and there's a distant third is I mean they're

1042
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: doing all.

1043
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: The rushing pickets, pickets down thirty seven. I'd like to

1044
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: see picket this week in particular because the Browns will

1045
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: get up the field on you. Oh yeah, they're they're

1046
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 1: like race cars. Absolutely, they just want to get booms,

1047
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, get up the field as quickly as possible.

1048
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: When you see those openings, take it and get your

1049
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 1: five yards.

1050
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, he needs to do more of that. We saw

1051
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 3: a nice glimpse of it with green Bay and remember

1052
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: how good he can do it. And you're right, I

1053
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 3: mean their linebackers cover a lot of ground, but they

1054
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 3: will open lanes in the in the past rush yea, yeah.

1055
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: Especially I mean again, as good as Garrett is, he's

1056
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: got one thing on his mind. Oh yeah, and he's

1057
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: getting up the field. That's a Schwartz thing too. It's

1058
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: you know, deal with it on the way to the passer,

1059
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: get up the field, be disruptive.

1060
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're there.

1061
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: And Lamar Lamar did that against him least we know

1062
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 1: it's Lamar, of course, but he hurt them at times

1063
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: doing you know, just taking off and running because you

1064
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: overran Lamar.

1065
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love to see Kenny get twenty five yards

1066
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: you know, rush huge, pick up three first downs in

1067
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 3: the process.

1068
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,959
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that would be that would be huge against this team,

1069
00:44:59,000 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: against this defense.

1070
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: They play a lot of man. They're going to turn

1071
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: their back to you a lot, I mean, So it's

1072
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: a great defense for that. And glad you brought that up. Yeah,

1073
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 2: the way they pass rush and their coverage, it adds up. Yeah.

1074
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: I'll be interested too as well to see if Denzel Ward,

1075
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: what's his injury status is moving forward. He left that

1076
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: game against the Ravens with the neck issue, So we'll see.

1077
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see.

1078
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: We'll practice sports were coming out here soon, you know,

1079
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: in the week, and we'll be moving right along.

1080
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely. But we're going to get to another break here.

1081
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: That's going to do it for our number one of

1082
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: the drive today. We'll be back with our number two

1083
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: right after this Black.

1084
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