1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:00,960 Speaker 1: Ron An Aian. 2 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 2: They do it so bad it takes five and a 3 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: half months, and they develop a customer that'll never go 4 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: back there and put another stink on a business that well, 5 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: it sort of smells like New Jersey at low tide, 6 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: and I can say that I live in New. 7 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Jersey the Car Doctor. 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: I'm really surprised at what's in this industry. You think 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: it's getting better and then you see a vehicle like 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: this and you say one. 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Anian the Car Doctor. 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up. 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: The phone and call in. The garage doors are open. 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: But I am here to take your calls at eight 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: five five five six ninety. 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: Nine hundred and now he. 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: Running. 20 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: All I could think about last night, lying in bed 21 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: getting ready for this radio show was that line from 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: Animal House at the end when Stephen first sits there 23 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: at the end with the parade and he's going, oh boy, 24 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: this is great. And that's really how I feel about 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: today's show. Hello and welcome ronin Andy and the car 26 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: doctor eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: You know all that you're a regular listener, you're new, welcome, 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: glad to have you. And I'm rushing because I want 29 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: to get right into it today. 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: Two cars. 31 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: First time in a while we've had two cars like 32 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: this at the shop that just absolutely epitomize what it 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: takes to fix cars in this industry and also what's wrong. 34 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: With this industry. 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: First car two thousand and eight Hyundai Hyundai two Soon 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: V six that had a whining noise for three years. 37 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: Poor little old lady driving it was, as she said, 38 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: just out of her mind. 39 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: She couldn't take it anymore. 40 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: She had been everywhere, everybody had looked at it, done 41 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: everything to it, tried everything. The list is long and frustrating. 42 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: The dealer put a timing belt in. It didn't fix it. 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: She still had to pay for the timing belt. They 44 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: told her it would fix it, but it did not, 45 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: and she laid out a good bunch of money for 46 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: something that didn't solve her problem. Another repair shop took 47 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: a look at it. They took a stab at. 48 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: It, They hung an alternator on it. 49 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: Yet another repair shop took a stab at it hung 50 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: a power steering pump on it. One repair shop came 51 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: close in the sense of a diagnostic routine. They washed 52 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: out the power steering reservoir because there's a bulletin from 53 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: Hyundai that talks about if they have any kind of 54 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: moan or wine or externally loud noise related to power 55 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: steering or related to engine operation, perhaps the power steering 56 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 2: reservoir is restricted making that noise. 57 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: None of them fixed the car. 58 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: Car showed up on my doorstep, ended up at Ariotomotive 59 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: this past Monday, and Harry, who's helping me at the shop, 60 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 2: took it in. And after assuring them that I could 61 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: fix anything from this car to that car to a 62 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: Boeing seven forty seven, as Harry likes to do, I 63 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: felt the pressure was on, so I better come up 64 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: with a solution. I looked at the car customer and 65 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 2: I said, well, did anybody ever take the belt off 66 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: as part of their diagnosis? And she looked at me 67 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 2: and she said, why would they do that? And I said, well, 68 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: let me just just leave the car, wrote her up 69 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: for a one to fifty six diagnosis, and a way 70 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: I went. First thing I did, yeah verify the complaint. 71 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the car has a all the time. 72 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: Took the SYRP belt off, the serpentine belt, the one 73 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: belt that drives everything. Alternator, power steering, air conditioning. 74 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: Guess what the noise is gone? 75 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: Well, now we're down to it's either the power steering pump, 76 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: the alternator, or the air conditioner. This wasn't too hard 77 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: to figure out. Two other shops had placed the alternator 78 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: in the power steering pump. That left me with the 79 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: air conditioner. Okay, there was a tensioner and a tensioner pulley, 80 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: and that sounded absolutely perfectly fine, and you'd spin everything 81 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: and everything was nice and quiet. It sounded like this, 82 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: And then when you spun the air conditioning compressor it 83 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: sounded like this. 84 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: That kind of hurts my throat when I do that. 85 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't think I can do that anymore. Guess what 86 00:03:59,640 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: you need? 87 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: An AC compressor and an AC compressor and a thousand 88 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: dollars later, guess what. 89 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: Your car is fixed? 90 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: But why didn't the other shop try to take the 91 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: belt off first? Why did they just start changing parts? 92 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: And why did the dealership put a timing belt on it? 93 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: And how come nobody could. 94 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: Figure this out? 95 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: And you know, I've been driving this car for three years, 96 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: and I felt like Bill Cosby in that clip where 97 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: he says, oh yeah, and I've heard it before. Then 98 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: another car came into the shop, a twenty ten Toyota Yars. 99 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: This was a no start, no crank, no start, did nothing, 100 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: turned the key, nothing happens, dashlights lit up. They It's 101 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: a sad story in a sense because the young man 102 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: that owns it's an EMT in the next town over. 103 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: Nice young man, and he was trying to install flashers. 104 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: He's an emergency medical technician. He was trying to make 105 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: his headlights flash in the event of an emergency call. 106 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: And in the process of working on it, they got 107 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: an emergency call. 108 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: So he started the car, moved it over so. 109 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: They could get the ambulance out, and came back from 110 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: the service call the emergency call. 111 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: In hour later. 112 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: I went to start the car and it wouldn't start. 113 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: No crank, no start, no click, no nothing. They took 114 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: it to a repair shop in town there and they 115 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: were told because we have to snap on virus and 116 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: we can diagnose anything, that we've diagnosed your car that 117 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 2: it has a bad a mobilizer key. The key for 118 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: the mobilizer which cuts off the injection if the wrong 119 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: keys inserted, sort of an anti theft measure, and it 120 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: has a P sixteen oh four folt A mobilizer keynot recognized, 121 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: so it either needs a key or you blew up 122 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: the computer, kid, because you were wiring in the lights 123 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: while you were trying to work on it with the 124 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: key on and the engine off. So I ended up 125 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: on my doorstep because this nice young man's mother knows 126 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: what I do, and she knew I could fix it, 127 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: and I have to tell you, I wasn't quite sure 128 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: what I could do, but I said, gee, I can't 129 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 2: do any worse. And you know, someone once told me, 130 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: you can't make it anymore broken. 131 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: It's already broken. You can only go up from there. 132 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: So I took on the challenge of this twenty ten 133 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: Toyota Yaris that everybody had sort of had their hand in, 134 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: and I wasn't disappointed. 135 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: When I lifted the. 136 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: Hood there was spaghetti. Ever, there were wires everywhere under 137 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: the hood of this car and kind of rattled me 138 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: a little bit down to my shoes. But as my 139 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: boss way back when in the gas station always told me, 140 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: he said, you know, you always start a diagnosis at 141 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: the beginning. You always begin at step one regardless. 142 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: That's what you're going to be. 143 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: Trained to do, and that's what I was trained to do. 144 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: So I went through and I did the usual in 145 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: this case, in this twenty ten Toyota. I scanned it 146 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: for codes. It had a P sixteen oh four, a 147 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 2: mobilizer key circuit or a mobilizer keynot recognized. And I 148 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: also went through and checked battery voltage. Standing battery voltage 149 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: was nine point five vaults under ten. Let me tell 150 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: you why that's so important. In case you're wondering what 151 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: I'm ranting about. All car computers need voltage, no mystery. 152 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: There there's a minimum at which they will shut off 153 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: and start to do funny things. Well, this one, for 154 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: whatever reason, because of his wiring job, perhaps he left 155 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: lights on when he went out on the emergency call. 156 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: Whatever it was, under ten vaults on a Toyota, especially 157 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 2: on this yards, the PCM won't be able to turn 158 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: on the starter. And when I thought about it, I said, 159 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: wait a minute, this isn't an a mobilizer problem. Because 160 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: on a Toyota, on this particular car, it's not an 161 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: immobilizer fault. If the engine doesn't crank, it will crank, 162 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: it won't start because the injectors have. 163 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: Been shut off. 164 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: And I realized that I had been partially led astray 165 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: by listening to another shop's diagnosis, thinking that, yeah, it's 166 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: a mobilizer, and I realized very quickly, no, it's not. 167 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: This is a traditional won't crank, won't start diagnosis. Gee, 168 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: why won't that happen? Started going through the starter circuit. 169 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: The starter solenoid on this particular car is energized through 170 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: a fuse out to the PCM down to the starter. 171 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: Looked at the fuse. 172 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: There's a row of fuses underneath the underhood fuse block 173 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: in this particular Toyota. There's ten fuses, or there's ten 174 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: slots in the underhood fuse block one through ten, of 175 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: which eight are used. And they're all there. And the 176 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: thirty amp I wanted in position nine. Yep, that thirty 177 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: amp is good. Wait a minute, that's not in position nine. 178 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: That's in position ten. There's nothing in position ten. How 179 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: could the fuse get up and walk? How could it 180 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: go from this spot to that spot? Oh, it can't 181 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: be this easy. Took the fuse out of position ten. 182 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: That I just installed it back in and then realized 183 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: it was wrong and put it in position nine. Now 184 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: I had been charging the battery in the meantime, knowing 185 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: that sooner or later this car was going to require 186 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: a battery with voltage. And imagine the surprise on my 187 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: face when I got in, turned the key and the 188 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: car started right up. You see, the bottom line becomes 189 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: that not everything is as it appears, but everything needs 190 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 2: to be diagnosed from a good basic starting point. 191 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: And it's not the scan tool that fixes the car. 192 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: The repair shop that put a snap on virus, that 193 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: snap on says, anybody can use this tool fix the car. 194 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: You can spend ten grand, you can spend two grand. 195 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: I use the launch scan tool fifteen hundred bucks. Guess what, 196 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: I still fix the car. And it's because I was 197 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: trained properly. It's because I was educated properly, and because 198 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 2: I applied that education. And I think I've earned the 199 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: right to say that that it's not the scan tool 200 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: that makes the mechanic. It's the mechanic that makes the 201 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: scan tool. And in the case of the Hyundai with 202 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: the wine remember the e that's just common sense you know, 203 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: why wouldn't you take the belt off? If you're chasing 204 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: a noise that's coming from the belt area, why wouldn't 205 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: you break it down into its simplest component. Because isn't 206 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: that what a diagnosis is. Aren't you supposed to break 207 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 2: something down to as small a level as possible and 208 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: find out how that component works and if indeed that 209 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: component is working properly. So remember this when you go 210 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 2: into your repair shop and you say, hey, can you 211 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: fix my car? 212 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 213 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: And it's not about Hey, I've got this one scan 214 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 2: tool that does everything. The right question is hey, are 215 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: you smart enough to come in out of the rain, 216 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: because I think that's probably a tough question for. 217 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: A lot of people in the world today. 218 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: And the second is how many scan tools do you own? 219 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: Because owning just one doesn't make it anymore. Hello, and 220 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: welcome Rod and Andy and the card Doctor. The phone 221 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: numbers eight five, five, five six zero nine nine zero zero. 222 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: We have a packed two hour show today, We really do. 223 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to We're gonna talk to Jerry Asta 224 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: Lacki from Gibbs. We've got an email here from a 225 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 2: listener from Anthony out in Chicago. Our friend Anthony Emilio, 226 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: the retired Chicago PD who I think we're turning him 227 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 2: onto car doctor products. He wrote a nice letter to 228 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: the folks it Gibs about his vinyl garage door in 229 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: sighting and how Gibbs works on that. We want to 230 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: talk to Jerry about that, and it's always nice to 231 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: talk to Jerry up there Michigan Way. He always tries 232 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: to convince us that Gibbs makes peanut butter and jelly 233 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: sandwich just tastes better, but in reality it's a great 234 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: penetrant and a great lubricant. We just want to talk 235 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: to him about that. And we're also going to be 236 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 2: talking to I think it's Hugh Grant, I think is 237 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: a gentleman's name from Drew Technologies in the second hour 238 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: about Jay twenty five thirty four flashing and all that 239 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 2: that's about and how the average any repair shop can 240 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: reflash VA vehicle computers. Today it's not as specialized a 241 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,239 Speaker 2: task as it once used to be, and Drew Technologies 242 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: is helping make it better. And we also reached out 243 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: to Harlan Siegel. How can I not talk to Harlan 244 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: Siegal from launch this week, especially after the Toyota Yars, 245 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: but more importantly some conversation. We've gotten more than a 246 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: few emails about launch scan tools, consumers looking for them 247 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: and some of the perks, and we thought we would 248 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: talk to Harlan one on one as we get ready, 249 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: as he getting ready. He's going to Seema in a 250 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: couple of weeks and he can talk about new product 251 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: and features and things like that. So it's a scan 252 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: tool OBD two Gibbs, answer your questions, emails, phone call, 253 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: car Doctor kind of show today, and that's just what 254 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: we're gonna do. I'm running any and the card Doctor 255 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 2: and I will be back right after this and we'll 256 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: kick the garage doores. 257 00:11:42,720 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: Over out of my head more likely running any in 258 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: the car. 259 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: Doctor here as we talk about cars this week. It 260 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: was really just just so amazing on that Yarus. I 261 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: still think about that car to go with the fuse 262 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: and it started, and then the part that the owner 263 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 2: said to me, he goes, but how could a fuse 264 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: keep the car from starting? And I had to explain 265 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: to him, and I took him a little under my 266 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: wing and yeah, I know, Tom's looking at me and 267 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: he's saying, come on, really, I'm like, yeah, you know 268 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: the problem is that nobody mentors young kids today. And 269 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: it was funny. He had taken and I know we 270 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: have calls. I'll get to them a minute, one second. 271 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: I'm sorry for if you're on hold. He had taken 272 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: coils of wire to put the headlights and he wanted 273 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: to make his headlights flash and he wrapped it around 274 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: in coils on various parts of the car, and I said, 275 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: you know, if you're not careful, you're gonna make a 276 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: giant electromagnet. If you wrap the coils of wire around 277 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: the steel and then pass voltage through it, at some 278 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: point you're going to magnetize something and on a computer 279 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: car and the wrong situation. And he's like, really, that'll 280 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: make a magnet. And I'm thinking, didn't you take tenth 281 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: grade science? He goes, oh yeah, I go what did 282 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: they teach you? He goes, not that, I mean, gee whiz, 283 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: I remember tenth grade science. We were learning about electro 284 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: magnets and all sorts of neat things. And Malahid school's 285 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: probably still really from the time I put the two 286 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: chemicals together that they said don't mix these two and 287 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: I went, oh, you mean like this and smoked out 288 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: the place. 289 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: But that's I don't know. 290 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: I don't know what they're teaching kids in school today, 291 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: but you know what you still got to You need 292 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: to be very smart to be a mechanic, I think, 293 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 2: to be good at it. And I'm not saying I am. 294 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I follow a procedure and that's the 295 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: most important thing. Let's get over and talk to Eric 296 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: online one. Let's kick the garage doors open. Enough about 297 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: me today and see what's going on here with his 298 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: Pontiac Vibe. Eric. 299 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help you? 300 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: And thanks for calling in from Racine, Wisconsin. 301 00:13:55,640 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 4: Hi, Ron, Yes, sir, Yeah, I was listening to your story. 302 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: You're talking about the gentleman that was in love with 303 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 4: his zuzu. 304 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: Joe Azuzu. Yeah yeah, sure. 305 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and you are telling him that, you know, 306 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: sometimes it's time to get rid of a car when 307 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 4: you can't get parts for it anymore. And I got 308 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 4: to thinking about my Vibe. It's probably been one of 309 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: the best vehicles I've ever had. It still looks like 310 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: it came off the showroom floor, the paint flawless, It's 311 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: got eighty thousand miles on it. I've done nothing but 312 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: maintenance and brakes on it, and I'm thinking about spending 313 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 4: five hundred dollars on tires for the winter. But you 314 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 4: got me thinking should I do that? Is it time 315 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: to get rid of the car? Because it's a Pontiac 316 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 4: and you know they don't make Pontiacs anymore. 317 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: Well, you know they don't make Pontiacs anymore. But you know, 318 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: I think the other. 319 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: Side of that is that you know that. 320 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: Really came from Toyota as well. Isn't there a Toyota 321 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: version of the vibe? Isn't it the Matrix? 322 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: I think? Is that the car? 323 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: Yes, that's the car I'm thinking of. I would say, no, 324 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: it's not time to get rid of it. It's it's 325 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: it's it's good to consider it. Here's why it's not 326 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: time to get rid of it. You can still get 327 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: parts in some form or another for that vehicle, the Asuzu. 328 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: Did you hear the whole comment about the Issuzu. I 329 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: wasn't making that up. If you want to purchase parts 330 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: for an Asuzu from Asuzu, not only do you have 331 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: to go down there and pay cash, at least that's 332 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: the way it works around our neck of the woods. 333 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: You have to go down there and pay cash, okay, 334 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: but you have to wait for the parts to show up. 335 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: And if they never show up, oh well, if the 336 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: parts show up and they're wrong, oh well. If the 337 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: parts show up and they don't work, oh well. And 338 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: if the parts show up and they go bad in 339 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: two months, oh well, order some more. So you know, Vibe, Yeah, 340 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: you know right it Just listen. Why don't we just 341 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: you know, why don't we put a Suzu in charge 342 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: of the government, because they would probably be just as 343 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: efficient as running that business as well. Uh, you know, 344 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: the Pontiac is a much different animal. There are parts 345 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: available for it. I wouldn't get rid of the Pontiac 346 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: for that reason. I'll tell you the one reason why 347 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: I would get rid of a Pontiac, Vibe. 348 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm not picking on you. 349 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: I'm just okay as long as we're being one on 350 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: one here today, right, Whi's okay is how do you 351 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: clean that back window? Isn't that the car with the 352 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: back window that the with the glass? Am I thinking 353 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: of the right Pontiac? Doesn't that have the crazy back 354 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: hatch that the glass is just really, it's always dirty. 355 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: You can't keep that back window clean, can you. 356 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 4: Oh, but it lifts up and it's really nice because 357 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 4: you can pop up just the window by itself. 358 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: Right. 359 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: Here's well, here's the most I know. 360 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: I have had no problem with that. 361 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: All right, Well, if you can get past that, then 362 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: I say keep it, because you know what, You're not 363 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: going to get a whole lot for it. And if 364 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: all that car needs to get through the winter is tires, 365 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: then frankly, you know what You've done your maintenance, You've 366 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: done your due diligence. Spend five hundred dollars, let the car. 367 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: Let the clock start counting. If you get two months 368 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: out of the car, that paid for the tires right there, 369 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: because two fifty a month is an easy car payment, 370 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: and anything after that is gravy. But if the engine failed, 371 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: if the engine failed tomorrow, then I'd probably hold off 372 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: and think about, you know, replacing the vehicle. That's not 373 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: that's not something I think is practical, unfortunately, And I 374 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: guess it's a sign of the times. When I started 375 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: this radio show twenty five years ago, the expression was it's. 376 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: Cheaper to keeper. 377 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: Today, it's cheaper to keeper as long as you can 378 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: get parts for it. The company hasn't gone out of business, 379 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: the car hasn't been recalled, and the people manufacturing the 380 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: car originally still manufacture parts for it somewhere on this 381 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: side of this part of the planet. 382 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: And that really is how I look at it. 383 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 4: I'm still waiting on that airbag recall that I've had 384 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 4: for two years, and they don't have a fix for 385 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 4: it yet. 386 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: Well, listen, don't hold your breath. I just finally real quick, 387 00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna go. We had an O two 388 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: grand and Cherokee at the shop since and I don't 389 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: like to do dates on radio because sometimes we play 390 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: these shows back at other times. We've had to show 391 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: the car in the shop since September second. It needs 392 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: an airbag module. It's under airbag recall from Chrysler since March. 393 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: Cute little old lady. 394 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: We want to do it for. We want to send 395 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: it out to the dealer for so she doesn't get 396 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 2: sold to the world. So the service writer can't buy 397 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: lawn furniture on his commission. And not only is the 398 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: partner not available, they haven't even assigned a part number 399 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: to it yet, so remains to be seen Eric. I 400 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 2: appreciate the call you call us in the spring list. 401 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: Now you enjoyed your vibe all winter long. I'm running 402 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 2: any in the Car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. 403 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Running any in the Car Doctor, rolling along 404 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: here at eight five five five six zero nine nine 405 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: zero zero. I should point out that eighty five five 406 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 2: five six zero nine nine zero zero is the Car 407 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: Doctor's toll free twenty four to seven number. 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And while we may miss one or two 428 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: along the way and we're sorry, understand the volume that 429 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: we're dealing with. Recently got an email from Anthony Emilio. 430 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: He's our retired Chicago PD listener out in park Ridge, 431 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: ILLINOI way, and he wrote, Hey, I heard about your 432 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: product on the car doctor Ron and any and this 433 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: is a copy of what he sent to the folks 434 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 2: over at Gibbs. I hearde six cans on the net 435 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: while I found a new use for Gibbs my vinyl 436 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 2: garage door and siding. The installers said to use WD forty, 437 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 2: but Gibbs works much better now. My garage is protected 438 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: and it looks great. It's my all around protected and lubricant. 439 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 2: If only the government works so well. Thanks Anthony Emilio, 440 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: park Ridge, Illinois. And you know what, it just kind 441 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: of jostled my brain a little bit. I said, I 442 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: haven't talked to Jerry. Uncle Jerry as we call him here, 443 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: but Jero Mas Delechi as his Facebook given name is, 444 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: and that we've got him on the line with us 445 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: to talk to him about Gibbs and all sorts of things. 446 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: Jerry's always good for a good time. Mister Rostillki, How 447 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: are you today, sir? 448 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 5: I'm fine, Ron. How about yourself? 449 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: Oh, not bad at all? How's things out Detroit Way? 450 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 5: I think we're starting to get a change of seasons 451 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 5: here a little nippy. 452 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: Today, yeah, a little cold? 453 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 454 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: Did you happen to go to the Woodward Cruise this year? 455 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: Yes? 456 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 5: I did, sir. How was it one of my must 457 00:20:58,960 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 5: dos every year? 458 00:20:59,680 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 459 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 5: How was it excellent? As always? Yeah, it's mind boggling. 460 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. 461 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 5: If it's got wheels and rolls, you'll see it there. 462 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I imagine. 463 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: So? 464 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: And were you out? 465 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: Were you out in the middle of the boulevard handing 466 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: out cans of Gibbs to everybody? 467 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 5: I would have loved to, but unfortunately I don't have 468 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 5: your kind of money. 469 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: Well, there you go. You know, listen, if I had 470 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: your money, i'd throw mine away. 471 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: Tell me about Gibbs, Jerry. 472 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's tell the tale here for the 473 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 2: listeners that are new to it. Where did Gibbs come 474 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: from and just what exactly is it. 475 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 5: It started out a guy named Paul Gibbs came up 476 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 5: with this formula back a number of years ago, and 477 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 5: he had it a little two ounce drip bottles. And 478 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 5: the problem being is he couldn't find an aerosol can 479 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 5: valve that would contain the product. So they put it 480 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 5: in an aerosol can and I god, it would leak out. 481 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 5: So after much research, trial and there, they came up 482 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 5: with an aerosol valve on a can that would contain 483 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 5: the product and they started making it available in twelve 484 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 5: ounce cans and it comes in a twelve ounce case 485 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 5: and you can use it on anything. 486 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: And when we say anything. 487 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 2: Like for example, you know, everybody thinks this is an 488 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: automotive show. So sure, there's tons of automotive applications, but 489 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: it was. 490 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: It was fascinating. It works. 491 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: They use it on guns. It's it's one of the 492 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: biggest things they use it on is taking care of weapons. 493 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, it is. 494 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 5: In fact, there was a large shipment of Gibbs that 495 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 5: went to Iraq through a distribut you know, a military 496 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 5: supply company. They wanted it out into Iraqs. I provided 497 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 5: them with a substantial amount of gibs to send out 498 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 5: to the troops and keep everything running good. Now, one 499 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 5: of the things that it will not do is catch 500 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 5: fuzz bunnies and dust up and whatnot, so it doesn't 501 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 5: come up right when you get in a harsh environment. 502 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 5: You know, it's quite the item. Also, it's good for 503 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 5: fishing gear. It's around the house. One of my first 504 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 5: use is they had a sliding glass shower door in 505 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 5: our bathroom and it was really sticky, and I first 506 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 5: applied some gibbs to it, and I forgot to tell 507 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 5: my wife and she put her whole one hundred and 508 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 5: two pounds behind it and him near drove the glass 509 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 5: door through the wall. 510 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 511 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 5: So now every time I give something, I have to 512 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 5: tell her, Hey, I put some gibbs on a watch out. 513 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 5: You know, it's going to open and close pretty easy. 514 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 5: And like my daughter now her kids, she won't put 515 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 5: gibbs on their door door hinges on her bedrooms because 516 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 5: she wants to hear them when they try to sneak 517 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 5: out at night. 518 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: Well, I can understand. 519 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 5: There, go get the defrigerator, yeah, you know, go get back. 520 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: On the computer, right, I could understand that. 521 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 2: You know, one of my favorite uses for Gibbs is 522 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: spraying it on aluminum pieces like intake manifolds and how 523 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: it preserves them and keeps them looking fresh. 524 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, that it does. Also, it's very good for their 525 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 5: metal surfaces. It'll prevent the fingerprints that you get on 526 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 5: it from touching it when your oils from your skin 527 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 5: get on to the metal. A new supply chain that 528 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 5: I've gotten involved in is people that do media blasting 529 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 5: on vehicle bodies. They coat the car down with Gibbs 530 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 5: immediately after the blasting and it can sit at the 531 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 5: shop no matter how long before the owner picks it 532 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 5: up and takes it over for his pain to the 533 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 5: next step in the processing pain. 534 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: Well, because you know, one of the things I've learned 535 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 2: with Gibbs is there's a lot of lubricant. You know, 536 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: we can mention I've experienced with WD forty and some 537 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: of the other things out there they spray on. They're 538 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 2: a lubricant. But the one thing with Gibbs is there's 539 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 2: a cling property to it. Correct It'll it gets into 540 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: the porosity of the metal and stays there. It doesn't 541 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: wash off like everything else does am I correct? 542 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 5: Correct, You're one hundred percent correct. It is molecularly absorbed 543 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 5: into the material and becomes one with the surface. Yeah, 544 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 5: and that's one of its strengths. And you can paint 545 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 5: over it, which you know that raises a lot of eyebrows. 546 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 5: But I have had parts that I painted in two 547 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 5: thousand and three that are still looking like they just came. 548 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 5: I just painted them, right, you know, underhood bracketry and 549 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 5: things for the different cars. But you again, you want 550 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 5: to do your metal prep as per your painting instruction. 551 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, sure, I mean I. 552 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 5: Wouldn't say to you, Ron, spray your part with gibbs 553 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 5: and then with the next breath, say, Ron, grab your 554 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 5: rattle can and give it a coat of a glass 555 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 5: of black, because that's not going to happen. 556 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: Right, That's not going to work. You know. 557 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 5: By the way, I got a set and set up, good, 558 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 5: good choice in time, wipe it down, keep it dust free, 559 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 5: do your tag rag you know, a couple of days 560 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 5: later and go at it. 561 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 562 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: You know, in the ten twelve years you and I 563 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: have been talking back and forth on radio. I always 564 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: go back in my mind when we have these conversations 565 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 2: to the snowplows. You know, I have a snowplow. I 566 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 2: plow the truck. I plow the shop with the big 567 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 2: plow truck, and I plow the house because you know, 568 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 2: it's just I just I don't have time to do 569 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: anything else, but I want to keep my stuff open 570 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: in the snow. And I've been gibbsing is that a 571 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: word I've been give protecting, emphasize. 572 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: Give a size. Yeah, I've been doing it. 573 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: Gives a size to the snow plow ever since. And 574 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 2: you know what, the thing still looks brand new because 575 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: it doesn't rust. And I think it kind of you know, 576 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: it's funny when I go out for coffee and this 577 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 2: is what generates I start thinking of you, because I'll 578 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: be there at the at the coffee shop and you know, 579 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 2: there's seven plow guys and everybody's got a plow on it. 580 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: It's rusty, corroded, falling off, beat up, and here I 581 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: pull in with this plow that's ten years old. It 582 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: looks you know, it's all shiny red, it's brand new. 583 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: And they're like, oh, look a new guy. I've been 584 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: doing this a while. I just you know, it gives 585 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: my plow, and they look at me and. 586 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: They go, you do what I go. It gives my plow. 587 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: It's the snow falls off easier. 588 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 5: But you know, neither also works on lawn wars. I 589 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 5: have a lot of people that use it under writing 590 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 5: worst to undercoat their deck, to treat their deck, and 591 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 5: then when they need to get out the clumps and 592 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 5: things that tend to accumulate under your more deck, just 593 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 5: take the host to it and it's gone, right, Yeah, 594 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 5: cuts down on their maintenance time. 595 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: Hey, listen, by the way, I apologize. I think it 596 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 2: was your birthday recently, wasn't it, Am I correct? 597 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: Did I see that? 598 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 6: Yeah? 599 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 5: That was another one on another, another notch on the belt. 600 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, another trip around the planet. But you're still but 601 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 2: you're not for sure, you're not. 602 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: That old of a guy. You still have the hot rod. 603 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 5: Right of course. Yeah, tell me about that my paston 604 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 5: equipped to sixty six Mustang. 605 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you'll. 606 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: Probably never get rid of that, right, that's the car. 607 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 5: That's the baby. I've searched far and white for that car, 608 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 5: and when I found it, I've been to other states. 609 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 5: I've been all over the country looking for that stink 610 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 5: silly car. And as luck would have it, guess what 611 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 5: I found in the town too over from me. 612 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. That's always the way it works, isn't it? And 613 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: it's always the way it works. Hey, listen. 614 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 5: Since you got it in the garage, I got it 615 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 5: in the stable and that's where it's stands. 616 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, you're you're so good at finding cars. If 617 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: you happen to stumble across a seventy two Chevy Monty Carlo, 618 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: I've got my eye out for one, so you keep 619 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 2: me in mind. 620 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: Hey, listen. 621 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: If the listeners want more information about Gibbs Jerry, where 622 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: can they get it? 623 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,239 Speaker 5: They can go to www dot get Gibbs g E T. 624 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 5: Gibbs dot com. Gotcha, that's get Gibbs dot com. And also, 625 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 5: as an offer to your listenership and your your fans 626 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 5: on the radio and on the web, I'm offering a 627 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 5: free gift to anyone that mentions car Doctor in their 628 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 5: order form. Now, as you go through the PayPal processes 629 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 5: which I use, there's an area where you can, towards 630 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 5: the end of your purchase you can add comment and 631 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 5: if you get to that point, add car Doctor and 632 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 5: I will send you very generous little gift, a little 633 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 5: token of my appreciation for your support of Gibbs and 634 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 5: for run support. Well we just go on through the 635 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 5: year twenty fifteen. 636 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: Well, listen, we appreciate your support of the Car Doctor 637 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: these many years, and we're glad to have you behind 638 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: the scenes helping us bring this information out to the public. 639 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: And always a good always a good time talking to you, Jerry. 640 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: I mean that we get around a lot, but always 641 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: a good time talking to you, sir. Hey, listen, you 642 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: go have a good rest of the afternoon. 643 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 5: All right, okay, buddy, thank. 644 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: You, Take good care, Jerry, Jerry, Asta lucky folks, get Gibbs, 645 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: Get Gibbs dot com. Always a pleasure. I'm running eny 646 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: in the Car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. 647 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: Welcome back, were the Car Doctor rolling along at eight 648 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Let's 649 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: get over and talk to Bob Nan you wit in 650 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 2: New York two thousand and seven to a matrix. 651 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: Hey, Bob, how are you, sir? Good? How can I 652 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: help you? 653 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 6: Well? I had a album with my CD player and 654 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 6: my matrix. Okay, it was jammed on me. So what 655 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 6: I did is removed it from you know, the car 656 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 6: land the jam, put it back in the A M 657 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 6: f M. The radio. Everything will work. But when I 658 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 6: go to push where it says disc, it will not 659 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 6: read disc. 660 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: Okay. 661 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 6: I'm just wondering if there's a code or anything. 662 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,239 Speaker 1: There's no, there's no coding for that. 663 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: And if the radio is working, then I would say 664 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: the problem is internal in the tape deck unit itself. 665 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: Let me just ask you two quick questions. Bob, does 666 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: the dome light still work? 667 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 6: Uh? Yeah, inside the car, yes, as far as I know. Yeah, 668 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 6: that's okay, okay. 669 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: And the cigarette lighter still works. 670 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 6: Right well, yeah, because I use it for you know, 671 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 6: utilities here right. 672 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: So, because those those are the only two fuses involved 673 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: in that circuit for those components, and one of them 674 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: is radio, one of them is CD. I don't remember 675 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: offhand which goes which way, but if both of those 676 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: are working, then we. 677 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: Can safely say that it has power. 678 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: You could verify ground for the CD, but it's all 679 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: part and parcel of that same component plug for the radio. 680 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: So unless you missed something, something's not plugged in. Provided 681 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: all power grounds and components are plugged in properly, I 682 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: would say it's an internal failure of the CD player. 683 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: So what you're gonna have to do. 684 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: Is I would either tell you to go online or 685 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: stop by your local Toyota dealer and ask them where 686 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: do they send out their stereos and electronics to be repaired, 687 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 2: and you can you can send it out and have 688 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: it overhould for I'm going to say two hundred dollars 689 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: or less, depending upon what's broken. As an educated guest, you. 690 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: Don't want to go and try and purchase that new 691 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: I've I've learned. 692 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: The hard way over the years that factory radios are 693 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: frightfully expensive. But you know there are there are usually 694 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: repair facilities that the dealers, the manufacturers are are using 695 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: to uh to repair their stuff. 696 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 6: Right, So what what what it does is, in other words, 697 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 6: I'll I'll push, I'll push you know, okay, and then 698 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 6: it'll come back and tell me you know that it's empty. 699 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: Right. 700 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 6: So then when I push load, you know, it'll it'll 701 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 6: blink okay, and then it'll shoot back over to the radio. 702 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: Right. 703 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's not it's not seeing maybe the radio 704 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: is not seeing the CD player. So at that point, 705 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: like I said, verify, you've got everything plugged in verify 706 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: that the dome light the cigarette lighter both work because 707 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: they are on that fuse for that particular componentry And 708 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: at that point then it sounds like an internal component failure. 709 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: And you've got to get the CD player checked out 710 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 2: and verified. And you may want to send them the 711 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: radio too, just to see that the problem isn't in 712 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: the radio, since one talks to the other in order 713 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: to give information back and forth, so they can they 714 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: can work together and get the sound out. So I 715 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: appreciate the call, Bob, and good hearing from you up 716 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: there and then you at New York A five five 717 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: five six zero nine nine zero zero. I'm ronnin Ady 718 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: and the car Doctor, and I'm back right after this. 719 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 4: Ah, curious tonight. 720 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: I got to feel something, right, I'm so scared. 721 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: I kiss a phone of my chair. 722 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 4: Every haway. 723 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back, run on Nadi and the car Doctor. 724 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: A quick piece of well, actually, I don't know if 725 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 2: this is email or a newspaper article. You know, I 726 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: like to review the things that you send in too, 727 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: me here and we talk about it up on air. 728 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: This comes to us again from Tony Emilio out in 729 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: Park Ridge, Illinois or retired Chicago p Dean. I like 730 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: mentioning that I like, you know what, I like to 731 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: because then I get to say, you know what, Thank you, 732 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: Tony for your service and for all the boys and 733 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: girls in blue out there for all they do to 734 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: protect us and keep. 735 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: Us safe on the highways. 736 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: And speaking of highways, Tony's article from the Chicago Tribune 737 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago talks about mischief on the highway. 738 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: All those country songs about line cheating spouses and honest, 739 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: dependable pickup trucks may need to be revised. It turns 740 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: out you can't trust your ride either. Last week, Ford 741 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: recalled thirty seven thousand new F one fifties because they 742 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: may slam on the brakes for no reason. The problem 743 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: is a glitch in the high tech cruise control, a 744 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: fancy form of automatic pilot that detects slower cars in 745 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: the front and reacts. The F one fifties get confused 746 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 2: when passing large, highly reflective trucks and think there's an 747 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 2: obstacle in the lean head. I'm not laughing because I 748 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 2: think it's funny. It's just, you know, it's what I've 749 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: been saying all along, And Tony included that in a 750 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 2: note he said, ron, it's exactly as you say. It's 751 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 2: a computer on wheels. One accident has been attributed to 752 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: the phenomenon blame unreliable software, which Ford said it can fix. 753 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 2: And as this article points out, and I agree with it, 754 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 2: the biggest reason we're thinking about computing power rather than 755 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: horsepower now is it's probably because of the Volkswagen scandal. 756 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 2: Let's face it, Volkswagen kind of opened our eyes. 757 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: It was funny. 758 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: I had a conversation this week with a couple of 759 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: German engineers for another company that makes fuel cells, and 760 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: they're telling me, how, you know what, Ford, GM, and 761 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: Chrysler are all do the same thing as Volkswagen. 762 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: They just haven't been caught yet. Yeah. 763 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: Well, I think Ford, GM, and Christler have been under 764 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 2: the microscope enough that by now they would have been caught. 765 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: And you know what, you got to face up to it. 766 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 2: Volkswagen got caught. But the point of this article going 767 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: back to that is just it's the software. And it 768 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 2: appropriately points out that The New York Times recently stated 769 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: that a new high end car, and we've said this before, 770 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: contains one hundred million lines of computing code. And that 771 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 2: there are fifty million lines of computing code in the 772 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 2: Hadron collider, you know, the atom smasher, So you know, 773 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 2: stop and think about that, something that's trying to find 774 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: the origins of the universe only has fifty million lines 775 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 2: of code, whereas the device that you get in, sit in, 776 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 2: go down to the Starbucks for the cup of coffee 777 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: and has one hundred million lines of code. You know what, 778 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: they haven't been able to figure out the origins of 779 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: the universe. It's a blessing cars run at all when 780 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: you stop to think about the obstacles and the technology 781 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 2: that's in front of them. 782 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's just crazy. 783 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 2: Hey, this hour, the Car Doctor, I can tell by 784 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 2: looking at the Great Vivad is just about over. 785 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: There's another hour to come on many of these affiliates. 786 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: If you happen to take it. 787 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 2: We're going to be talking to the folks from Drew 788 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 2: Technologies and Launch, so you want to stick around for that. 789 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: But til the next time I'm running ending the Car Doctor. 790 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 2: The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 791 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 5: See ya.