WEBVTT - CH3 Summer Lessons: Starting with Setup 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.079 It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. We come to 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:11.400 you every Wednesday. I'm your host, Claude Harmon. We're gonna 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:13.480 do a solo episode of the pod this week, but 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:15.840 wanted to take a moment and thank our partners at 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:18.520 rap Sodo. If you've been listening to the pod, you 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:20.800 know then I'm a big fan of their launch monitors, 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:25.360 and I really like the MLM. It utilizes Doppler radar, 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:28.560 so you can use it with your iPhone or your iPad. 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.080 And the thing I like about this it's under three 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:33.160 hundred dollars, right, So a lot of the launch monitor 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:35.960 technology out there a little bit more expensive. 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So I wanted 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:29.920 to talk today about the difference between working with elite 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:34.000 tour players and everyone else that I teach. I just 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:38.120 got back from a fairly lengthy three weeks on the road, 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:41.600 and it was probably nine out of the last eleven. 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.600 But when I got back straight into golf lessons today, 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.680 and you know, it's interesting. I think when you're working 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.840 with really really good elite tour players, I mean I 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:59.520 think that I probably spend more time on just when 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.560 you know, when you're looking, I mean specifically the guys 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.440 that I work with, you know, Brooks, DJ, Pat Perez. 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.480 But when I look back at kind of all of 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.600 the players, you know, both on the men's and the 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.720 women's side, that I've been lucky enough to work with, 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.760 I wouldn't say there's so I mean, it's not nearly 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.280 as technical as I think everyone thinks it's, at least 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.600 not for me. Maybe that's just me and the way 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.839 that I teach. But I mean, if I look at 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:31.280 really since before the Masters, if I look at kind 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.200 of the way Brooks has been trending and the way 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:37.200 Brooks has been playing, the majority of the work that 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.200 I think we've done over the last month till a 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:46.280 month and a half has basically been predominantly where Brooks 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:50.960 is con termed set up related right ball position basics. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.120 And you know, I've mentioned this a couple of times 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.880 on the pod, but that's not the sexy stuff right 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.480 now in twenty twenty three, right there aren't a lot 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:04.440 of people making, you know, Instagram or YouTube videos about grip, stance, posture, 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:08.000 and alignment. And it's something that that I think is 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:13.920 still very very important, but I think it's probably more important. Yes, 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:18.400 it's important for the average golfer the right grip, the 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:23.560 right setup, the right posture, the right alignment. But specifically 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:28.440 from you know, an elite tour player. You know standpoint, 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:33.120 these guys have so much speed, right they're all swinging 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.599 the golf club now, you know everybody, you know, it 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:40.960 seems like everybody on tour is you know, over one 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:47.000 seventy ball speed, over one fifteen to one eighteen, you know, 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:51.440 over that in clubhead speed. So when the basics and 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:56.080 when just the basic fundamentals get off, good players can 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:59.320 hit the golf ball miles off line because they have 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.719 so much speed, right they already are swinging the golf 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.680 So in Brooks's case, with a driver, Brooks is you 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.600 know over one hundred and twenty miles per hour club 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.680 at speed, and you know over one hundred and eighty 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:16.400 mile per hour ball speed. So when his grip, his posture, 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:21.039 his stance, his alignment, his ball position, when something gets 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.880 off before he's hitting the golf ball, because he's already 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.440 got so much speed, he can start hitting the golf 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:34.480 ball miles offline. And so sometimes it's I would say 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:38.880 most times it's a slight tweak here there. Yes, every 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.160 player has their own kind of swing signature, their own 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.680 swing DNA, and so all of the players that I 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:51.680 work with, they all kind of have their own idiosyncrasies 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:55.160 in their own way of doing things. But one of 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.640 the things that I'm always checking is what they are 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:02.400 doing in their setup. And listen, everybody has you know, 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.000 from a tour standpoint, a lot of people have. You know, 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.600 there isn't necessarily one setup. There are guys that you know, 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:10.479 play with the golf ball a little bit more forward 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.640 in their stands. There are guys that maybe like get 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.400 a little bit more back in their stands. There are 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.880 players that tend to get or like to get a 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.520 little bit closed in their setup. There are players that 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.719 like to get a little bit open. So, you know, 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:25.440 from a tour standpoint, I think setups and they're very, 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:29.520 very I think in twenty twenty three they are unique 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:33.039 because not everybody has the same kind of setup. But 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.719 having said that, you have to look at what a 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.919 player is doing and kind of know what their DNA is, 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.400 and you know, specifically for the guys you know that 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:47.240 I work with Brooks and DJ both like to fade 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:51.440 the golf ball. So we're looking at things that we 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.599 can do in their setup that are going to help 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:58.359 them be able to consistently fade the golf ball. First 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.119 and foremost, for both of them, the ball gets back 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:05.719 in their stance, it's going to cause problems, right, They're 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:07.520 not going to be able to hit the golf ball 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.320 the way they want to, specifically if they're trying to 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.560 fade it because the golf ball gets too far back 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:15.200 in the stance. They're going to catch it too early 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.880 in circle and they can't really get the path where 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.320 they need it to be. Now, if you are trying 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:25.880 to hit Draws ball up in your stance, probably isn't 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:27.640 going to help you because it's going to mess up 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.160 your posture, it's going to mess up your alignment, but 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.080 it's also going to mess up where you're catching the 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.360 golf ball. So specifically with Brooks and DJ trying to 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.920 make sure that they make sure they keep that golf 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.840 ball forward. So a lot of times it's just basic. 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.880 They can be hitting it quite poorly and then we 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:48.880 can make a small, minor little tweak to the alignment 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.880 and that all of a sudden changes everything, right, It 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:55.520 changes the way they're catching the golf ball. One of 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.480 the things that we've been seeing, even though he hasn't 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:01.760 necessarily hit every golf shot perfect, really Brooks for about 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.920 the last month to a month and a half has 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.200 been hitting the golf ball as solid as I've seen 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:11.000 him hit it maybe ever. And the misses are solid. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.320 So the misses are in the middle of the club face. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:18.680 So anytime the misses are solid, we're going to look at, 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.640 is that mechanics or is that kind of something that's 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:27.040 happening before he hits the golf ball. So I mean 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:30.080 he's still fighting right now, having the golf ball too 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.880 far back in his stance, which then closes his shoulders 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.400 a little bit too much, which then tends to get 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.640 him aiming a little bit more to the right. So 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:40.679 a lot of what I've been doing over the last 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.360 you know, three four or five weeks is just been 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.040 you know, standing face on and just saying, hey, listen, 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.199 let's get the ball position a little bit more forward. 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.080 If you've watched any of his warm ups, you've also 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.760 noticed his caddy, Ricky Elliott. Every now and again, he'll 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:57.000 call Ricky in and he'll have Ricky kind of get 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.360 into his stances. So Brooks will take his stance. He'll 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.160 go ahead and take his club, the head of his 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.480 golf club and kind of put it where his right 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.000 toe is. Ricky'll stand in there, he'll step back, and 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:09.959 then he'll do that for the left foot as well. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.000 And so you'll see Brooks do that a lot. Kind 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.120 of go and look and say, okay, where's the ball position? 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.640 Where is it? You know, where's the setup. And so 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.840 we as guys on Brooks' team, we're definitely second pairs 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.920 of eyes for him because he can't see himself. And 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.400 I've talked about that a lot on the pod as well. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.280 I mean a lot of people ask me, hey, you know, 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.600 when I see you on TV standing behind these guys, 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.400 it turned it. You're not really saying that much. I 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.280 mean that's, first of all, that's one hundred percent by design, 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.480 and I'm trying to say as little as I possibly 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:46.320 can because warm ups, specifically warm ups before rounds, there's 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.319 not really a lot that you can do. Right The 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.000 players are going to go play and they've kind of 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.240 got to play with what they've got. And I mean 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:58.000 it was really interesting. Brooks, even though he won at Oakhill, 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:01.640 won the PGA his fifth major, he didn't feel like 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:05.160 he was hitting it that great. He felt, and I 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.160 definitely felt and I know Ricky Elliott as Catty felt 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:10.200 the same. He hit it much better at Augusta, but 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.120 he didn't win at Augusta and he hit it, didn't 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:16.000 hit it that great. His warm up was I'd say 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.280 his warm up on Sunday at o'kill was, you know, 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.600 on scale of one to ten, I'd probably give it 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:26.880 a six or a seven at Augusta on Sunday before 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.040 the final round, I'd give it a fifteen. That's how 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.640 much better it was. But he didn't win that day, 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.280 and he was able to get it done on Sunday 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.160 at Augusta, I mean at o'kill. He wasn't able to 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:42.320 get it done Sunday at Augusta at the Masters, but 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.440 he was hitting it better at the Masters, and he 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.840 was hitting it at o'kill. But I think that just 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.920 goes to what I've talked about a lot on the 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:55.400 pod is technique versus execution. I mean, he was fighting 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:59.360 a little bit of a setup, and so the setup 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.400 has a lot to do with how he hits the 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.000 golf ball. DJ is a little bit of the same. 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:10.080 Right when DJ's kind of basics get off again, grip stance, 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:14.720 past your alignment. DJ's tendency is it's the distance from 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.720 the golf ball that he tends to get right. He 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.520 can get sometimes a little bit too far away from 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.880 the golf ball, which can really have a dramatic effect 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:28.800 on how he strikes the golf ball. And then you know, 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.840 we're we're always looking at what players do and kind 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:37.240 of monitoring kind of their kind of DNA, right, what 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.520 is it that we know makes them really good players? 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.440 And I think after working with you know, both Brooks 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:49.240 and DJ for you know, over a decade, you kind 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.439 of have a really good idea of where they are. 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:55.280 So I'm constantly to I think it's really important for 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:59.559 everyone listening. Take videos of your setup, take videos from 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.439 face on, and then take videos from down the line. 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.800 And you know, especially if you get into really good, 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.840 you know, spells of good ball striking, I always want 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:15.559 I mean that's one of the things on Sunday at o'kill, 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.080 you know, right before Brooks is getting ready to tee off. 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.200 I mean, obviously he's got a chance to win, you know, 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:24.120 a major championship. He's playing good, he's swinging the golf 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:27.720 club well. So I want to document that and get 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.640 an idea of what he's doing. So I take a 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:34.360 lot of video. And you know, Brooks and DJ, they 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.400 want a lot of video. They like looking at the 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.680 DJ probably maybe a little bit more so than Brooks. 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:45.840 Brooks he likes to look at, you know, videos, He'll 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.360 kind of he has his things that he likes to 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.400 look at. So most of the time I've got my 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.920 idea of what I'm saying to Brooks, and I'll say, hey, listen, 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.040 these are things I think we need to do, which 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.400 all of which he agrees with. But he'll kind of 0:12:58.400 --> 0:12:59.960 take my phone every now and go, let me go 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:01.719 and take a look at that and just run at 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.520 myself because he's looking for his own things, right, So 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:07.319 the player will have things that they're looking for in 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.040 their golf swing and the coach will have the instructor 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.640 will have things they're looking for. I think we're definitely 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:17.600 both on the same page with that. But I think 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.360 you want to make sure that you're taking video of 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.680 your golf swing, video of your setup, both face on 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:25.440 and down the line, so you can have a good 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:28.760 idea of what a good setup for you looks like. 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.120 So if you're hitting really good shots on the range 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.920 and you're in a practice session and you're flushing it 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.920 and it looks pretty good, go ahead and take a 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.240 video of what you look like it's set up both, 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.080 you know, face on and down the line, so you've 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.440 got that so you know that if you get to 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.080 a place where you're not hitting it well, you can 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.480 then go back and video yourself and say, okay, let 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.800 me just go ahead and eliminate all of the things 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.559 I'm doing before I hit the golf ball right, all 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:58.280 of the things that don't take any athletic or golf ability, 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:02.360 because it doesn't take any athletic or golf ability to 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.040 set up to a golf ball in the right way right, 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.559 to have the right distance, to have the right alignment, 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:09.559 to get your hands in the right place, to get 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.480 your grip in the right place. All of those things 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.280 are really really vital. And I just think that sometimes 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:23.000 people completely overlook basics, you know, they overlook what's happening 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.920 before you're actually swinging the golf club. And I think 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:32.160 if if golfers paid more attention to that and really 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:37.960 really hyper vigilant on their setup, I think it will 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.800 definitely help your ball striking, you know, being consistent with 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:45.280 where your ball position is, be inconsistent with where your 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.320 hands are at address. That was another thing that happened 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.040 to Brooks at o'kill. His hands had just gotten a 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:52.680 little bit back on Thursday. He said he felt it 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.120 on the golf course. Why, I don't know, you know, 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.400 these guys aren't robots, they're not machines. They're going to 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.960 you know, do something. So really it was kind of 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:03.640 a quick fix to where we were just able to 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:05.760 go to the range and just move the hands a 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.600 little bit more forward. Then the ball position, then all 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:11.160 of the things that we were trying to work on 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:15.280 just kind of fall into line. But definitely check your 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:21.000 ball position, check your alignment, check your posture, and get 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:25.040 good images of that that you've got with you so 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.560 that if you're not playing the way you want to, 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:29.680 if your ball striking isn't the way you want it, 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:31.840 you can then go, okay, let me go back to 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.080 three weeks ago where I was playing really really well. 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.720 That's why I've got you know, ten eleven, twelve thousand 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:42.040 videos on my phone because it's a catalog. I've got 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.440 albums for Brooks, I've got albums for DJ, I've got 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.240 albums for pat Press, and I just dump all of 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.240 the videos in there. So I've got all of this 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.680 stuff that I can go look at and every now 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.560 and again, you know, a player will say to me, hey, 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.600 you know last year, three weeks ago, month ago, two 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:03.240 weeks ago, whatever, many videos from that that practice session 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.200 or that day or that tournament or that week, and 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:10.280 we can always then go and compare and contrast what 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.520 they're doing before they hit the golf ball. So I 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:19.120 think it's not sexy, it's not glamorous, but really really important. 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:22.320 And then obviously, in the lessons that I give on 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:27.240 a regular basis to just average regular golfers, I think 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:32.160 setup is hugely, hugely important. I think alignment is probably 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.480 the thing that I see most in golf lessons that 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.880 I give at home when I'm when I'm not on tour. 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:43.080 I think a lot of people really really struggle with 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.680 what happens before they make a golf swing, and a 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.560 lot of times it can be a slight change in alignment. 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:54.360 It's a generalization, but I would say the majority of 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.480 the golfers that I see tend to have the anti 0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:00.920 slice setup, so they're closed with their feet and their 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:05.160 shoulders are open and with irons. A lot of times 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.199 you'll see players that are in that setup. You know 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:10.240 they're in they've read all the books and the magazines 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.439 and heard all of the things that say, listen, if 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.080 you want to draw it, you know, aim to the right, 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.200 get closed with your chest, get closed with your shoulders, 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.560 get closed with your feet. But I think a lot 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:25.040 of times because they're slicing the golf ball, the golf 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.800 ball is going to the right, they're aiming massively to 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.040 the right. But then because they're so tired of hitting 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.840 the golf ball to the left or to excuse me, 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.440 to the right, they're going to aim their shoulders instinctively 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:40.120 more to the to the left. And with irons, it's generalization, 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.800 but I see more players struggle with the ball being 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:47.840 too far forward at address with their irons. Then I 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.160 see it being too far back, and I think the 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:54.840 reason for that is for some I wish I actually 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.800 knew the reason for that for some reason, it's a generalization, 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.160 but when the golf ball with the irons gets too 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.880 far forward in their stands, rarely do I see someone 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.960 get too closed in their setup. What we tend to 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.320 see is if that ball position gets too far forward 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:16.160 with an iron, because the clubs are shorter, it's easier 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.920 for you to set up to it, and the shoulders 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:23.040 are going to be open. So probably the most common 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.360 set up mistake that I see is feet aim into 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.879 the right, shoulders aiming to the left, and so a 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.400 lot of times it's you work the opposite right. You'll 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.960 say to a player Okay, feel like you're a little 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.520 bit open with your feet, and then feel like you're 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.199 a little bit more closed with the shoulders. And if 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.760 we can get you into that set up position, if 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:44.920 I can get the player to feel like their shoulders 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.840 aren't so wide open when they go ahead and address 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:49.719 the golf ball with their shoulders a little bit more 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.400 square and their shoulders a little bit more neutral. Now 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.160 they see how far forward that golf ball is, right, 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.200 that golf ball starts to get really, really really far 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.520 forward in their stands because now their chest is square 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:05.000 and it's not open. And then that's an opportunity for me, 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:08.159 as an instructor and as a coach, say, okay, now 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.280 we move that golf ball back to a little bit 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.960 more of a neutral position. And that's going to help 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.919 you with your ballflight, it's going to help you with 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:17.720 your contact, it's going to help you with a lot 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.479 of things. But I mean, I don't practice without an 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:24.600 alignment stick down. There are tour players that are religious. 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:28.000 DJ is one that definitely always has an alignment stick down. 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.040 He likes to know where his feet or aimed. Adam 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.960 Scott's one that's come to mind. He loves to practice 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:38.680 with an alignment rod, and I think it's low hanging fruit, right. 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.080 It's an easy way to make sure that you're set 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:44.600 up that your feeder aiming where you're trying to go. 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:46.359 And then the other thing that I think is really 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.840 important is, and you can do this with an alignment 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.080 stick as well, is don't get locked into just being 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:56.760 or just aiming at one target. Right. I think that's 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:00.600 something that I see that's very common. A lot players 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:04.040 just get locked into that one target. They hit bucket 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.159 after the ball after ball, bucket after bucket, and they 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.640 never really change the target. So I think, yeah, I mean, 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:14.439 if you're working on mechanics, and you're working on you know, 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:20.040 very specific mechanical things, if you're doing a bunch of drills, okay, 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:24.520 maybe stay at the same target. But after you've done that, 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:26.520 you want to say to yourself, Okay, let's see if 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:28.919 any of this is working. Let's see if anything that 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:31.920 I'm trying to work on from a drill standpoint, from 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.280 a technique standpoint, let me see if any of this 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:36.440 stuff is actually really helping me in my golf swing. 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:38.560 And that's where I think you can go ahead and 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:42.399 then say okay, let me you can still use an 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:44.920 alignment stick, right, You could still take an alignment stick, 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:49.280 but go through a variety of different targets, because that's 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.520 always going to help you start to get into game mode. Right. 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:55.639 I get asked so many times over the course of 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.879 the year, how do I simulate what happens on the 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.879 golf course in my practice sessions? Right? How do I 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:04.919 practice like I'm going to be playing on the golf course. 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:07.960 And I think one of the ways that you can 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:12.800 do that is golf I think tends to get practiced 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:18.320 in in block practice, right, in repetition, same golf club, 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:21.919 same target, trying to make the same swing over and 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.240 over and over and over again. And I think that's 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:29.080 great if you're working on something specific technique wise, but 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.720 I've discussed this in the past. I think you definitely 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:37.399 want to break up your practice and do half of 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.399 what I'll call block practice and half of what I 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:45.639 would call random practice. Block practice is, you know, drills 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:50.320 a lot of repetition, working on feelings, working on technique, 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:54.200 doing the same thing over and over and over again. 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:57.640 You're just kind of drilling in feels. Right, If you're 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:00.240 working on something with your coach, or your instructor trying 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.119 to get that back swing a little bit more inside, 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:06.000 maybe making the backswing a little bit whatever. The technical 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:11.639 the technique that you're working on block practice and lots 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:15.800