Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of object.
Speaker 2: Trend your honor. Put me in Star Wars? Oh that
Speaker 2: is m yeah. Oh man, I'm Jack. That's Miles.
Speaker 3: Star Wars.
Speaker 1: On the grounds of put me in Star Wars, I
Speaker 1: object yeah. And these are some of the things that
Speaker 1: are trending. Lucasfilm is trending because Gina Corrano. I always
Speaker 1: want to add a Nana Gina Corana No, but it's
Speaker 1: Gina Coranaana suing Disney and Lucasfilm for discrimination and wrongful termination.
Speaker 1: She is seeking a court order that would force Lucasfilm
Speaker 1: to put her back in the Mandalorian that.
Speaker 3: Is the man. You know. The thing about this too
Speaker 3: is Elon Musk is like footing the legal bill too.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, because.
Speaker 3: You know he's like Anyboddy who has been like canceled here,
Speaker 3: like I will represent you in court or whatever. So
Speaker 3: Gina Krano's like, I'm gonna take you up on that,
Speaker 3: and did this like really long wordy thing talking about
Speaker 3: like kind of in all kinds of conspiratorial racist shit
Speaker 3: she'd posted. She was saying, like, the thing is I
Speaker 3: never use aggressive language. I shared thought provoking quotes, pictures
Speaker 3: and memes thought provoking provokes the thought that I may
Speaker 3: be vile.
Speaker 2: Bro, Sorry, my shit is so thought provoking.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, dude, just the most base, fucking thought provoking
Speaker 3: ship posts you've ever fucking seen. Sorry, but again, I'm like,
Speaker 3: it is a little odd when you're like the damages
Speaker 3: that I have experience or that have been done to me,
Speaker 3: and the restitution that I seek is to have a
Speaker 3: court order that will recast me, that Lucas, that will
Speaker 3: force Lucas from to recast.
Speaker 1: Her care worms, because you know, a lot of casting
Speaker 1: decisions I feel like would be under appeal immediately if
Speaker 1: if the court established the president, they could get you
Speaker 1: a gig, be sued into, uh getting the starring role
Speaker 1: in a major Hollywood production, Like.
Speaker 3: How do you even? Well whatever, So good good luck
Speaker 3: to you and just maybe leave us alone.
Speaker 1: That's cool to hear about Elon Musk, though, I wonder
Speaker 1: how is he, you know, helping out a lot of
Speaker 1: like underrepresented minorities.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Gina Carano, that other white guy, the one
Speaker 3: racist full yeah, louisk Shane Gillis everybody.
Speaker 1: No immunity is trending because an appeals court has ruled
Speaker 1: that Trump has no immunity.
Speaker 4: Ah bull, I'd said that everything I do as president
Speaker 4: has to be protected otherwise than any president can be
Speaker 4: brought up on charges for committing crimes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyway, we talk more about that and tomorrow's episode.
Speaker 3: The one thing I will just add to that is if,
Speaker 3: and that is the biggest if of them all, bigger
Speaker 3: than Iffy waddy way, is if Scotus did the right
Speaker 3: thing and declined to hear an appeal to that, like
Speaker 3: you know Trump's appeal. Uh, we could have we could
Speaker 3: have a potential spring trial start date in the January
Speaker 3: sixth case.
Speaker 2: The January sixth case is the jack Smith one, right, the.
Speaker 3: Jack Smith's getting your guess. Yeah, that's the heavier of
Speaker 3: the two, of the other one being the mar A
Speaker 3: Lago documents tiff. But yeah, that's if that one gets
Speaker 3: an early start date. Who knows. But again, don't put
Speaker 3: your eggs in that basket, because no one's, not even
Speaker 3: a court is going to save us from whatever this
Speaker 3: guy's trying to bring.
Speaker 2: Whatever's coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Chris Pratt is trending because you know,
Speaker 1: after enraging the Internet by taking gigs playing Super Mario
Speaker 1: and our Field he is playing the Pringles guy in
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl commercial, or rather he's playing himself but
Speaker 1: with a giant mustache for some reason, which then leads
Speaker 1: to him being cast in a movie about the Pringles guy.
Speaker 1: So it's it's sort of playing up the idea of
Speaker 1: like Chris Pratt gets cast as everyone.
Speaker 3: All right, which because everyone loves that. Everyone loves that,
Speaker 3: Like it's that's not that's not the kind of attention
Speaker 3: a lot of these projects are getting. But I just
Speaker 3: I like the little finer details about this, like ad
Speaker 3: about how some eagle eyed people spotted that there's like
Speaker 3: this Julius Pringle's name, like as part of the Lord.
Speaker 3: I had no idea this was like some contested slash
Speaker 3: not real thing that there's no character.
Speaker 1: So at the end, so it starts out, he walks
Speaker 1: into a store, buys a Pringles has a big like uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Archduke Ferdinand mustache, and so I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you look like the Pringles guy. Takes
Speaker 1: a picture of him and then like cut two, like
Speaker 1: it goes viral and then there's a billboard that says
Speaker 1: Chris Pratt is mister p But you zoom in on
Speaker 1: the movie's credit to the bottom and you can clearly
Speaker 1: see the name Julius Pringles.
Speaker 2: Which the man who started Pringles right right.
Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty two, Kellogg's claimed in an official
Speaker 1: document that their mustachio Pringles logo is one of their
Speaker 1: trademark characters like Tony the Tiger, Tucan Sam and called
Speaker 1: either mister p or Julius Pringles. But Julius Springles is
Speaker 1: so somebody looked it up. Julius Springle's not a trademarked character,
Speaker 1: and in fact, Julius Springles is a hoax.
Speaker 2: Two college students.
Speaker 1: Fucked around and added the name to the Pringles Wikipedia
Speaker 1: page in two thousand and six, and it just like
Speaker 1: started showing up in official Pringles promotional materials.
Speaker 3: I love how a company knows their brand so well.
Speaker 3: They're like, what was this saying our Wikipedia? Yeah, j
Speaker 3: JP is Pinki's what the wow? The power of Wikipedia?
Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is like the when I
Speaker 3: look at that, You're like, I was in college in
Speaker 3: two thousand and six, and that was the exact ship
Speaker 3: we would do is alter Wikipedia pages and email each
Speaker 3: other links to be like, dude, I didn't realize that,
Speaker 3: like you were Gavrillo, Prince Ship's brother, and you were
Speaker 3: actually an accessory to the assassination of the speak transfort
Speaker 3: it in or saying like people would have the highest
Speaker 3: selling album of all time, like you could get away
Speaker 3: for like hours of that kind of stuff. But credit
Speaker 3: to these two.
Speaker 2: Yeah that they did it.
Speaker 1: They did it because Julius Peppers was a famous football
Speaker 1: player at the time, and they just changed Tolias Springles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: North Carolina both basketball and football player. Yeah, yeah, went
Speaker 1: into the NFL, very good player, and they're like Julius Pringles, which, dude, that.
Speaker 3: Is so fucking such a time machine. Julius Pepper's from
Speaker 3: North Carolina. The two sport God.
Speaker 1: The fact that it is pluralized that it's Julius Pringles
Speaker 1: does really make it work for me. There there is
Speaker 1: a tweet exchange where Pringles is like, that's funny, Julius
Speaker 1: did too, and Michael A. Wiseman responds, Uh, you know
Speaker 1: that my friend and I made up the name Julius
Speaker 1: Pringles when we were in college.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: No no reply yet from Pringles, but it may be
Speaker 1: seen whether the name's inclusion in this commercial is a
Speaker 1: nod to the hoax where if some ad agency intern
Speaker 1: just like was googling went on Wikipedia.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, wow, Now I gotta like, do you think
Speaker 3: it's still up? Or they're like humiliated that They're like,
Speaker 3: call the fucking guy Wikipedia and get that ship taken down.
Speaker 2: You call our Wikipedia guy.
Speaker 3: Let's see Julius. Does it show up Julius Springles, there's
Speaker 3: a whole section under it still yeah.
Speaker 2: But probably presumably telling the story or no.
Speaker 3: Oh. So the first one is talking about how like
Speaker 3: it is a depiction or mister p designed by Lewis Dixon,
Speaker 3: like the actual history behind it. And then it said
Speaker 3: the mascot's name originated with with the Wikipedia hoax editor,
Speaker 3: the then hoax Julius put then hoax Ulius into the
Speaker 3: Pringles articles, which was subsequently picked up by other news outlets.
Speaker 3: And this is how misinformation becomes gospel truth.
Speaker 1: M Julius is a great name, by the way. Orange
Speaker 1: Julius Julius, the doctor, irving.
Speaker 3: Orange, Dude, Orange Julius, fucking miss Orange Julius. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: still have there's still a couple around, aren't there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's like orangs.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're like spotted every once in a while,
Speaker 1: like Bigfoot, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: One of the few, like sweet garbage foods. My mom
Speaker 3: was also like, would let me get at the mall
Speaker 3: because she also.
Speaker 2: She was fed.
Speaker 3: She was like, guess what the fucked orange?
Speaker 2: I've never had orange julia? So what is orange juliet?
Speaker 2: What does it taste like?
Speaker 3: Like a cream sickle kind of.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's like a melted cream sickle.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2: It's not like actual orange juice.
Speaker 3: It's no, I mean it has it has milk, and
Speaker 3: it's like milk and orange juice kind of vibes down there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just know it from the SNL sketch with
Speaker 1: Sylvester Stallone.
Speaker 2: From the Copland era. I think I think that's why
Speaker 2: he was coming on SNL that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it makes sense, makes sense.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 2: right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back and the country sticker Toby Keith just
Speaker 1: died at the age of sixty two following a battle
Speaker 1: with stomach cancer. For some of us, this news meant
Speaker 1: quickly googling to check to see if Toby Keith is
Speaker 1: the guy Nicole Kidman is married to. That is Keith
Speaker 1: Urban different.
Speaker 3: He's the guy who did the Lynch.
Speaker 2: Songs, which is the lynch y Yeah, so you know.
Speaker 1: In addition to the outpouring of love from some fans
Speaker 1: of bad music, UH, social media also was pointing out
Speaker 1: he was kind of a racist warmonger who was mostly bad.
Speaker 1: I definitely remember him from the you know, Iraq War
Speaker 1: era now yeah or now the chicks at the time,
Speaker 1: Dixie Chicks, Uh pointed out that it was an unjust
Speaker 1: war and he like, you know, used them as a
Speaker 1: punching bag and they were like excommunicated from the country
Speaker 1: community and started like receiving death threats.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean you know that his one pro
Speaker 3: lynching song Beer for my horses.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know that Just.
Speaker 3: That is wild that people who like were in the
Speaker 3: audience when he performed it on Colbert are like, yay,
Speaker 3: not listening to the lyrics. Our Grandpapy told my pappy
Speaker 3: back in the day, son a man had to answer
Speaker 3: for the wicked that he'd done. Take all the rope
Speaker 3: in Texas. I'd be like, I'm out, yep, ye find
Speaker 3: a tall oak tree, don't need to go any further.
Speaker 3: That's okay. I understand you're going to round, all round
Speaker 3: up all them bad boys, M boys, are you talking
Speaker 3: about Martin Lawrence and Will Smith? And we'll have and
Speaker 3: hang them high in the street for all the people
Speaker 3: to see. Wow wow wow wow wow wow.
Speaker 2: Anyway, interesting that's is it?
Speaker 3: Like I I was watching the local news. Everyone is
Speaker 3: so desperate to somehow like tie everything to Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3: And it's maybe true or not, but they're like, you know,
Speaker 3: Toby Keith was actually instrumental in Taylor Swift having a
Speaker 3: career too, well, like I'm sure we'll hear something from
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift. I don't know, just because that was the
Speaker 3: scene she started out in first, you know. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't know what that was,
Speaker 3: but it's just so weird, like as in aside, they
Speaker 3: just put that in like this person news, like I'm
Speaker 3: sure we'll hear from her about that soon, Like Okay,
Speaker 3: maybe you will, I don't know, maybe you won't.
Speaker 2: Maybe Toby Keith's name begins with a T, much like
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. More on that at eleven Yeah, and now
Speaker 2: being a part of that same trend. There is a
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift story because she had to send a seasoned
Speaker 2: to sists. Two students to a student who's tracking her
Speaker 2: private jet, says she's in a constant state of fear.
Speaker 2: This seems to be pre standard for famous people to send.
Speaker 2: The student who tracks various famous people's private jets season desists.
Speaker 2: I mean, I will say, for all the reasons we've
Speaker 2: discussed about her being like the closest thing we've got
Speaker 2: to a living religious icon, I feel like she should
Speaker 2: be allowed to not be followed.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know that. I constantly have that thought,
Speaker 1: you know, when someone is that when people.
Speaker 3: Cape for billionaires because you're like, I might be a billionaire,
Speaker 3: and you're like, I mean, you know eventually with my jet,
Speaker 3: I do so.
Speaker 2: Partially it's like I don't.
Speaker 1: I just feel like she is like in many ways
Speaker 1: too culturally central, and like there is like a weird
Speaker 1: spiritual aspect to it that seems to confuse anger and
Speaker 1: you know, just draw a lot of devotion. So partially
Speaker 1: worried about her safety. Partially, yeah, I think I could
Speaker 1: one day be as famous as Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: I'm not ruling it out. I'm not saying it's definitely
Speaker 2: gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Same thing said with your chest out say I could
Speaker 3: be bigger than Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: Just watch me one day.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's theoretically possible, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: make Gary. Your mom said I'm getting good as a singer,
Speaker 1: and so I'm just saying that off.
Speaker 3: The now, I have the imagination for something bigger.
Speaker 2: Dude, Oh my god, ever since.
Speaker 1: So I saw Miles's family as we as we talked
Speaker 1: about earlier the week, I got to hang with the
Speaker 1: fam at the Geist child's one day birthday party, and uh,
Speaker 1: Miles's mom complimented my singing so that I, at the
Speaker 1: top of the show am.
Speaker 2: Becoming a better singer.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I took it very graciously in person,
Speaker 1: but at my house with my family, I have become
Speaker 1: such a deep Holy shit.
Speaker 3: Just walking around in gowns and stuff, and You're like,
Speaker 3: I can't be bothered. Right now, I'm warming up my
Speaker 3: vocal cords. Me me, mommy, may Really it's.
Speaker 1: All a vocal warm up for the AKA performance absolute.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what the show recording is, just a
Speaker 1: vocal warm up for the AKA performances. Because one day
Speaker 1: I do plan to be bigger than Taylor Swift. Okay, there,
Speaker 1: I said it, and we mean our Taylor, my privacy
Speaker 1: security needs to be protected.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I just don't know what you're how you
Speaker 3: can have a reasonable expectation of privacy. I mean, obviously
Speaker 3: you can because you're so famous, but like when you're
Speaker 3: also like moving in like not you know, it's a
Speaker 3: fucking jet. It's not like you're like leaving in like
Speaker 3: three different fucking suburbans, like go in different directions, like
Speaker 3: which one is in? It's like there's a jet. But
Speaker 3: I mean this mostly, I think the fear argument is
Speaker 3: being used because it's become a thing that a lot
Speaker 3: of people are like being like can you be a
Speaker 3: little more carbon conscious with the jets and stuff, because,
Speaker 3: like you know, Elon Musk tried to do it, but
Speaker 3: I think failed. That kid is is it the same
Speaker 3: kid who tracks Elon musk'st I have.
Speaker 2: To think it's the same kid.
Speaker 3: But it's all just one kid, you know, these days,
Speaker 3: it's all it's all happening, like because do you remember
Speaker 3: that one There's like this kid in California who is
Speaker 3: like a prolific swater, like the person who was swatting
Speaker 3: a ton of people and a lot of them were
Speaker 3: coming from like this one kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so wor it's almost prolific Swater.
Speaker 1: I saw him in the twenty twenty four Guinness Book
Speaker 1: of World Records. All right, Uh and finally, Uh, this
Speaker 1: is a story that we have mentioned in the past,
Speaker 1: but is just getting more and more coverage and now
Speaker 1: is being covered by the Guardian. I think the last
Speaker 1: time we brought it up it was being covered by
Speaker 1: the Intercept.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, So it's been pretty obvious the whole time
Speaker 1: that CNN's pro Israel coverage is rooted in some kind
Speaker 1: of like explicit corporate dictum. Right like last year when
Speaker 1: Anderson Cooper referenced the huge civilian loss of life and
Speaker 1: then quickly corrected himself to say loss of life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no civilian and not. It was weird the way
Speaker 3: he corrected himself, Like it did feel like that's right.
Speaker 3: We got the email that's supposed to say, don't talk
Speaker 3: about civilians or be very specific when you talk about
Speaker 3: who is claiming the number of people that have perished
Speaker 3: in Gaza. It's like according to the Hamas controlled health Ministry,
Speaker 3: which later we've found out that even the Israeli government
Speaker 3: was taking seriously and being like using those numbers in
Speaker 3: their own.
Speaker 1: Israeli military is using those numbers. The Israeli Intelligence Department
Speaker 1: is using those numbers. Yeah, so those numbers true. But
Speaker 1: The Guardian has reported that a lot of CNN staffers
Speaker 1: are themselves really pissed at the networks editorial policies, accusing
Speaker 1: them of an institutional bias that amounts to journalistic malpractice.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Again, these are CNN employees saying this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think when we first talked about it,
Speaker 3: a lot of it was about this thing that a
Speaker 3: lot of the reporting had to go through the Jerusalem
Speaker 3: Bureau before being reported out in the US, and a
Speaker 3: lot of people point like that they're the new head
Speaker 3: of CNN who came from the BBC also had their
Speaker 3: own history of like sort of you know, accommodating the
Speaker 3: Israeli government when it came to like how things were reported.
Speaker 3: But this is apparently like this has been going on
Speaker 3: for long, Like this is like a quote long standing policy,
Speaker 3: so that essentially where they say, well, we want to
Speaker 3: ensure accuracy, that many of the people that work at
Speaker 3: CENA like it basically goes through this process where these
Speaker 3: stories are being quote shaped by journalists who are legally
Speaker 3: obliged to work within the purview of the IDF.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the thing that CNN says about the story
Speaker 1: is going through the idea in one way or another.
Speaker 3: Or just or people understand that they're there's clearly a
Speaker 3: specific way to speak about this, which is interesting because
Speaker 3: that's a thing that foreign reporters have to sort of
Speaker 3: they sign this document when that's as quote, agreeing to
Speaker 3: abide by the dictates of the censor. But we also
Speaker 3: know too that in Israel, like it's their own media
Speaker 3: that has probably had the most like like truly like
Speaker 3: passionate opposition to what the government is doing. So it's
Speaker 3: like interesting how you can like how it's like, well,
Speaker 3: if you come here from abroad, you better do it
Speaker 3: this way. And the people that live here, okay, they
Speaker 3: can you know, they have free speech, I guess, or
Speaker 3: can report on it how however they see fit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but we're getting worse information than people
Speaker 1: in Israel are getting.
Speaker 3: Right, depending on where you get your news, because I
Speaker 3: think what you hear too there is that the local
Speaker 3: news is only focused on one side of what's happening,
Speaker 3: does not really mention casualty to civilians and yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: like yeah.
Speaker 1: So as we mentioned, just like substantively, some of the
Speaker 1: things that you'll hear on CNN is anytime death toll
Speaker 1: is reported, they would say casualty statistics are coming from
Speaker 1: Hamas controlled Ministry of Health. There's also reporting any bombings
Speaker 1: in Gaza have to be described as quote blasts that
Speaker 1: are attributed to nobody until the Israeli military ways in,
Speaker 1: Like those are direct was blasts, right, attributed to nobody
Speaker 1: until the Israeli military ways in, and then waving through
Speaker 1: any statements by the Israeli government while heavily scrutinizing anything
Speaker 1: released by the Palestinian government.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then even like you have seasoned journalists who
Speaker 3: have like actually been working on reporting in the region
Speaker 3: for like their whole lot decades, that's what they do professionally.
Speaker 3: That like it's freezing those people out to the point
Speaker 3: like they don't even want to engage with the network.
Speaker 3: So morale is pretty low. And again I think this
Speaker 3: is just like anything like apparently the ratings that CNN
Speaker 3: and Fox News have gone up since everything, like since
Speaker 3: the attacks on October seventh, and like MSNBC viewership has
Speaker 3: gone down, which is interesting because I feel like Mehdi Hassan,
Speaker 3: who used to be on MSNBC was speaking pretty like,
Speaker 3: you know, objectively about what was happening, and even Ali
Speaker 3: Velshi did and then like that seemed to cause some issues.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean, I think these outlets largely just
Speaker 3: provide like a narrative to people that help the viewers
Speaker 3: feel completely disconnected to like the tragedy that's unfolding, and
Speaker 3: certainly like shield their viewers from any notion that their
Speaker 3: own tax dollars or the United States government are like
Speaker 3: the fucking fuel that allows this machine to keep going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a it's a hard truth to hear.
Speaker 1: It's like a real breaking point, I think for a
Speaker 1: lot of people. And so the counter narrative that CNN
Speaker 1: is providing, like it's more popular and helps people just
Speaker 1: kind of stay cocooned.
Speaker 3: And you know, yeah, I mean that's just how it
Speaker 3: was too. Like even you know, I'm like in high
Speaker 3: school college early college days for me, with the Iraq War,
Speaker 3: it was just so obscure and you're like, look, how
Speaker 3: badass these dudes blew this fucking little town up right,
Speaker 3: and like that was it. You were so disconnected from
Speaker 3: the humanity of it all, and you're just yeah, it's
Speaker 3: like they have a playbook for this kind of stuff
Speaker 3: in our Western media.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Iraq War was very very similarly like kind
Speaker 1: of treated the way this one is being treated at
Speaker 1: that time. And then you know, in retrospect now we
Speaker 1: learned that all the people who were pumping the brakes
Speaker 1: and you know, objecting had the fact on their side.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and well then also too, like the Islamophobia
Speaker 3: that's going, like that Wall Street journal piece that said,
Speaker 3: like dearborn Michigan is like the new like hub of
Speaker 3: like jihad and area. Yeah, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 1: All right, well, those are some of the things that
Speaker 1: are trending on this Tuesday, February sixth.
Speaker 2: We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves,
Speaker 1: get the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy, and
Speaker 1: we will talk.
Speaker 2: To you all tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Fight bite