1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of object. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 2: Trend your honor. Put me in Star Wars? Oh that 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: is m yeah. Oh man, I'm Jack. That's Miles. 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 3: Star Wars. 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: On the grounds of put me in Star Wars, I 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: object yeah. And these are some of the things that 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: are trending. Lucasfilm is trending because Gina Corrano. I always 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: want to add a Nana Gina Corana No, but it's 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: Gina Coranaana suing Disney and Lucasfilm for discrimination and wrongful termination. 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: She is seeking a court order that would force Lucasfilm 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: to put her back in the Mandalorian that. 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 3: Is the man. You know. The thing about this too 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: is Elon Musk is like footing the legal bill too. 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: Oh cool, because. 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: You know he's like Anyboddy who has been like canceled here, 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: like I will represent you in court or whatever. So 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 3: Gina Krano's like, I'm gonna take you up on that, 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: and did this like really long wordy thing talking about 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: like kind of in all kinds of conspiratorial racist shit 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: she'd posted. She was saying, like, the thing is I 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: never use aggressive language. I shared thought provoking quotes, pictures 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: and memes thought provoking provokes the thought that I may 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: be vile. 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: Bro, Sorry, my shit is so thought provoking. 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, dude, just the most base, fucking thought provoking 26 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 3: ship posts you've ever fucking seen. Sorry, but again, I'm like, 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: it is a little odd when you're like the damages 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: that I have experience or that have been done to me, 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: and the restitution that I seek is to have a 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: court order that will recast me, that Lucas, that will 31 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: force Lucas from to recast. 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: Her care worms, because you know, a lot of casting 33 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: decisions I feel like would be under appeal immediately if 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: if the court established the president, they could get you 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: a gig, be sued into, uh getting the starring role 36 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: in a major Hollywood production, Like. 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: How do you even? Well whatever, So good good luck 38 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 3: to you and just maybe leave us alone. 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: That's cool to hear about Elon Musk, though, I wonder 40 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: how is he, you know, helping out a lot of 41 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: like underrepresented minorities. 42 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Gina Carano, that other white guy, the one 43 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: racist full yeah, louisk Shane Gillis everybody. 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: No immunity is trending because an appeals court has ruled 45 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: that Trump has no immunity. 46 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: Ah bull, I'd said that everything I do as president 47 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: has to be protected otherwise than any president can be 48 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 4: brought up on charges for committing crimes. 49 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyway, we talk more about that and tomorrow's episode. 50 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: The one thing I will just add to that is if, 51 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 3: and that is the biggest if of them all, bigger 52 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: than Iffy waddy way, is if Scotus did the right 53 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: thing and declined to hear an appeal to that, like 54 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: you know Trump's appeal. Uh, we could have we could 55 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: have a potential spring trial start date in the January 56 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: sixth case. 57 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: The January sixth case is the jack Smith one, right, the. 58 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 3: Jack Smith's getting your guess. Yeah, that's the heavier of 59 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 3: the two, of the other one being the mar A 60 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: Lago documents tiff. But yeah, that's if that one gets 61 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: an early start date. Who knows. But again, don't put 62 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: your eggs in that basket, because no one's, not even 63 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: a court is going to save us from whatever this 64 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: guy's trying to bring. 65 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: Whatever's coming. 66 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Chris Pratt is trending because you know, 67 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: after enraging the Internet by taking gigs playing Super Mario 68 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: and our Field he is playing the Pringles guy in 69 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl commercial, or rather he's playing himself but 70 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: with a giant mustache for some reason, which then leads 71 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: to him being cast in a movie about the Pringles guy. 72 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: So it's it's sort of playing up the idea of 73 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: like Chris Pratt gets cast as everyone. 74 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: All right, which because everyone loves that. Everyone loves that, 75 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: Like it's that's not that's not the kind of attention 76 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: a lot of these projects are getting. But I just 77 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: I like the little finer details about this, like ad 78 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 3: about how some eagle eyed people spotted that there's like 79 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: this Julius Pringle's name, like as part of the Lord. 80 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: I had no idea this was like some contested slash 81 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 3: not real thing that there's no character. 82 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: So at the end, so it starts out, he walks 83 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: into a store, buys a Pringles has a big like uh, 84 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: you know, Archduke Ferdinand mustache, and so I was like, 85 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: oh my god, you look like the Pringles guy. Takes 86 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: a picture of him and then like cut two, like 87 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,559 Speaker 1: it goes viral and then there's a billboard that says 88 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Chris Pratt is mister p But you zoom in on 89 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: the movie's credit to the bottom and you can clearly 90 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: see the name Julius Pringles. 91 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: Which the man who started Pringles right right. 92 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty two, Kellogg's claimed in an official 93 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: document that their mustachio Pringles logo is one of their 94 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: trademark characters like Tony the Tiger, Tucan Sam and called 95 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: either mister p or Julius Pringles. But Julius Springles is 96 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: so somebody looked it up. Julius Springle's not a trademarked character, 97 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: and in fact, Julius Springles is a hoax. 98 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: Two college students. 99 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: Fucked around and added the name to the Pringles Wikipedia 100 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: page in two thousand and six, and it just like 101 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: started showing up in official Pringles promotional materials. 102 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: I love how a company knows their brand so well. 103 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: They're like, what was this saying our Wikipedia? Yeah, j 104 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 3: JP is Pinki's what the wow? The power of Wikipedia? 105 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is like the when I 106 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: look at that, You're like, I was in college in 107 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 3: two thousand and six, and that was the exact ship 108 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 3: we would do is alter Wikipedia pages and email each 109 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: other links to be like, dude, I didn't realize that, 110 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: like you were Gavrillo, Prince Ship's brother, and you were 111 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 3: actually an accessory to the assassination of the speak transfort 112 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: it in or saying like people would have the highest 113 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: selling album of all time, like you could get away 114 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: for like hours of that kind of stuff. But credit 115 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: to these two. 116 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah that they did it. 117 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: They did it because Julius Peppers was a famous football 118 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: player at the time, and they just changed Tolias Springles. Yeah, 119 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: North Carolina both basketball and football player. Yeah, yeah, went 120 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: into the NFL, very good player, and they're like Julius Pringles, which, dude, that. 121 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: Is so fucking such a time machine. Julius Pepper's from 122 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 3: North Carolina. The two sport God. 123 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: The fact that it is pluralized that it's Julius Pringles 124 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: does really make it work for me. There there is 125 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: a tweet exchange where Pringles is like, that's funny, Julius 126 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: did too, and Michael A. Wiseman responds, Uh, you know 127 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: that my friend and I made up the name Julius 128 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: Pringles when we were in college. 129 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: Right. 130 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: No no reply yet from Pringles, but it may be 131 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: seen whether the name's inclusion in this commercial is a 132 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: nod to the hoax where if some ad agency intern 133 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: just like was googling went on Wikipedia. 134 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, wow, Now I gotta like, do you think 135 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: it's still up? Or they're like humiliated that They're like, 136 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: call the fucking guy Wikipedia and get that ship taken down. 137 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: You call our Wikipedia guy. 138 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: Let's see Julius. Does it show up Julius Springles, there's 139 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: a whole section under it still yeah. 140 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: But probably presumably telling the story or no. 141 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: Oh. So the first one is talking about how like 142 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: it is a depiction or mister p designed by Lewis Dixon, 143 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: like the actual history behind it. And then it said 144 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 3: the mascot's name originated with with the Wikipedia hoax editor, 145 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: the then hoax Julius put then hoax Ulius into the 146 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: Pringles articles, which was subsequently picked up by other news outlets. 147 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: And this is how misinformation becomes gospel truth. 148 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: M Julius is a great name, by the way. Orange 149 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Julius Julius, the doctor, irving. 150 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: Orange, Dude, Orange Julius, fucking miss Orange Julius. Yeah, they 151 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: still have there's still a couple around, aren't there. 152 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 153 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: I feel like there's like orangs. 154 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: I feel like they're like spotted every once in a while, 155 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: like Bigfoot, you know, yeah, yeah. 156 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: One of the few, like sweet garbage foods. My mom 157 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: was also like, would let me get at the mall 158 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: because she also. 159 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: She was fed. 160 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: She was like, guess what the fucked orange? 161 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: I've never had orange julia? So what is orange juliet? 162 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: What does it taste like? 163 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 3: Like a cream sickle kind of. 164 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: Okay, it's like a melted cream sickle. 165 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. 166 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: It's not like actual orange juice. 167 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: It's no, I mean it has it has milk, and 168 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: it's like milk and orange juice kind of vibes down there. 169 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just know it from the SNL sketch with 170 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: Sylvester Stallone. 171 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: From the Copland era. I think I think that's why 172 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 2: he was coming on SNL that. 173 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it makes sense, makes sense. 174 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be 175 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 2: right back. 176 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: And we're back and the country sticker Toby Keith just 177 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: died at the age of sixty two following a battle 178 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: with stomach cancer. For some of us, this news meant 179 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: quickly googling to check to see if Toby Keith is 180 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: the guy Nicole Kidman is married to. That is Keith 181 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,599 Speaker 1: Urban different. 182 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 3: He's the guy who did the Lynch. 183 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 2: Songs, which is the lynch y Yeah, so you know. 184 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: In addition to the outpouring of love from some fans 185 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: of bad music, UH, social media also was pointing out 186 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: he was kind of a racist warmonger who was mostly bad. 187 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: I definitely remember him from the you know, Iraq War 188 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: era now yeah or now the chicks at the time, 189 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: Dixie Chicks, Uh pointed out that it was an unjust 190 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: war and he like, you know, used them as a 191 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: punching bag and they were like excommunicated from the country 192 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: community and started like receiving death threats. 193 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean you know that his one pro 194 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: lynching song Beer for my horses. 195 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know that Just. 196 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 3: That is wild that people who like were in the 197 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: audience when he performed it on Colbert are like, yay, 198 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: not listening to the lyrics. Our Grandpapy told my pappy 199 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: back in the day, son a man had to answer 200 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 3: for the wicked that he'd done. Take all the rope 201 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: in Texas. I'd be like, I'm out, yep, ye find 202 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: a tall oak tree, don't need to go any further. 203 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 3: That's okay. I understand you're going to round, all round 204 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 3: up all them bad boys, M boys, are you talking 205 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: about Martin Lawrence and Will Smith? And we'll have and 206 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: hang them high in the street for all the people 207 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: to see. Wow wow wow wow wow wow. 208 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: Anyway, interesting that's is it? 209 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: Like I I was watching the local news. Everyone is 210 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: so desperate to somehow like tie everything to Taylor Swift. 211 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: And it's maybe true or not, but they're like, you know, 212 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: Toby Keith was actually instrumental in Taylor Swift having a 213 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: career too, well, like I'm sure we'll hear something from 214 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift. I don't know, just because that was the 215 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: scene she started out in first, you know. Yeah, so 216 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't know what that was, 217 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 3: but it's just so weird, like as in aside, they 218 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: just put that in like this person news, like I'm 219 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 3: sure we'll hear from her about that soon, Like Okay, 220 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 3: maybe you will, I don't know, maybe you won't. 221 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: Maybe Toby Keith's name begins with a T, much like 222 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. More on that at eleven Yeah, and now 223 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: being a part of that same trend. There is a 224 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift story because she had to send a seasoned 225 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: to sists. Two students to a student who's tracking her 226 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: private jet, says she's in a constant state of fear. 227 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: This seems to be pre standard for famous people to send. 228 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: The student who tracks various famous people's private jets season desists. 229 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I will say, for all the reasons we've 230 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: discussed about her being like the closest thing we've got 231 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 2: to a living religious icon, I feel like she should 232 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: be allowed to not be followed. 233 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: Like I don't know that. I constantly have that thought, 234 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, when someone is that when people. 235 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: Cape for billionaires because you're like, I might be a billionaire, 236 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: and you're like, I mean, you know eventually with my jet, 237 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: I do so. 238 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 2: Partially it's like I don't. 239 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: I just feel like she is like in many ways 240 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: too culturally central, and like there is like a weird 241 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: spiritual aspect to it that seems to confuse anger and 242 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, just draw a lot of devotion. So partially 243 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: worried about her safety. Partially, yeah, I think I could 244 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: one day be as famous as Taylor Swift. 245 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: I'm not ruling it out. I'm not saying it's definitely 246 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: gonna happen. 247 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: Same thing said with your chest out say I could 248 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: be bigger than Taylor Swift. 249 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: Just watch me one day. 250 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's theoretically possible, and I'm going to 251 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: make Gary. Your mom said I'm getting good as a singer, 252 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: and so I'm just saying that off. 253 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: The now, I have the imagination for something bigger. 254 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: Dude, Oh my god, ever since. 255 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: So I saw Miles's family as we as we talked 256 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: about earlier the week, I got to hang with the 257 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: fam at the Geist child's one day birthday party, and uh, 258 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: Miles's mom complimented my singing so that I, at the 259 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: top of the show am. 260 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: Becoming a better singer. 261 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I took it very graciously in person, 262 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: but at my house with my family, I have become 263 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: such a deep Holy shit. 264 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: Just walking around in gowns and stuff, and You're like, 265 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: I can't be bothered. Right now, I'm warming up my 266 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: vocal cords. Me me, mommy, may Really it's. 267 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: All a vocal warm up for the AKA performance absolute. 268 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what the show recording is, just a 269 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: vocal warm up for the AKA performances. Because one day 270 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: I do plan to be bigger than Taylor Swift. Okay, there, 271 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: I said it, and we mean our Taylor, my privacy 272 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: security needs to be protected. 273 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I just don't know what you're how you 274 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: can have a reasonable expectation of privacy. I mean, obviously 275 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: you can because you're so famous, but like when you're 276 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: also like moving in like not you know, it's a 277 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: fucking jet. It's not like you're like leaving in like 278 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: three different fucking suburbans, like go in different directions, like 279 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: which one is in? It's like there's a jet. But 280 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: I mean this mostly, I think the fear argument is 281 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 3: being used because it's become a thing that a lot 282 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: of people are like being like can you be a 283 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: little more carbon conscious with the jets and stuff, because, 284 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: like you know, Elon Musk tried to do it, but 285 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: I think failed. That kid is is it the same 286 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: kid who tracks Elon musk'st I have. 287 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: To think it's the same kid. 288 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: But it's all just one kid, you know, these days, 289 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: it's all it's all happening, like because do you remember 290 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 3: that one There's like this kid in California who is 291 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: like a prolific swater, like the person who was swatting 292 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: a ton of people and a lot of them were 293 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: coming from like this one kid. 294 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so wor it's almost prolific Swater. 295 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: I saw him in the twenty twenty four Guinness Book 296 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: of World Records. All right, Uh and finally, Uh, this 297 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: is a story that we have mentioned in the past, 298 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: but is just getting more and more coverage and now 299 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: is being covered by the Guardian. I think the last 300 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: time we brought it up it was being covered by 301 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: the Intercept. 302 00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 303 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, So it's been pretty obvious the whole time 304 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: that CNN's pro Israel coverage is rooted in some kind 305 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: of like explicit corporate dictum. Right like last year when 306 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: Anderson Cooper referenced the huge civilian loss of life and 307 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: then quickly corrected himself to say loss of life. 308 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, no civilian and not. It was weird the way 309 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: he corrected himself, Like it did feel like that's right. 310 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 3: We got the email that's supposed to say, don't talk 311 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: about civilians or be very specific when you talk about 312 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 3: who is claiming the number of people that have perished 313 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: in Gaza. It's like according to the Hamas controlled health Ministry, 314 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: which later we've found out that even the Israeli government 315 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: was taking seriously and being like using those numbers in 316 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: their own. 317 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: Israeli military is using those numbers. The Israeli Intelligence Department 318 00:17:53,680 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: is using those numbers. Yeah, so those numbers true. But 319 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: The Guardian has reported that a lot of CNN staffers 320 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: are themselves really pissed at the networks editorial policies, accusing 321 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: them of an institutional bias that amounts to journalistic malpractice. 322 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 323 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 2: Again, these are CNN employees saying this. 324 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think when we first talked about it, 325 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 3: a lot of it was about this thing that a 326 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: lot of the reporting had to go through the Jerusalem 327 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: Bureau before being reported out in the US, and a 328 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 3: lot of people point like that they're the new head 329 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: of CNN who came from the BBC also had their 330 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 3: own history of like sort of you know, accommodating the 331 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: Israeli government when it came to like how things were reported. 332 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 3: But this is apparently like this has been going on 333 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: for long, Like this is like a quote long standing policy, 334 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: so that essentially where they say, well, we want to 335 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: ensure accuracy, that many of the people that work at 336 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: CENA like it basically goes through this process where these 337 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 3: stories are being quote shaped by journalists who are legally 338 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: obliged to work within the purview of the IDF. 339 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the thing that CNN says about the story 340 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: is going through the idea in one way or another. 341 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 3: Or just or people understand that they're there's clearly a 342 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 3: specific way to speak about this, which is interesting because 343 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: that's a thing that foreign reporters have to sort of 344 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: they sign this document when that's as quote, agreeing to 345 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: abide by the dictates of the censor. But we also 346 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: know too that in Israel, like it's their own media 347 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 3: that has probably had the most like like truly like 348 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 3: passionate opposition to what the government is doing. So it's 349 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 3: like interesting how you can like how it's like, well, 350 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 3: if you come here from abroad, you better do it 351 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: this way. And the people that live here, okay, they 352 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 3: can you know, they have free speech, I guess, or 353 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 3: can report on it how however they see fit. 354 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but we're getting worse information than people 355 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: in Israel are getting. 356 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: Right, depending on where you get your news, because I 357 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: think what you hear too there is that the local 358 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 3: news is only focused on one side of what's happening, 359 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: does not really mention casualty to civilians and yeah, you know, 360 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: like yeah. 361 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: So as we mentioned, just like substantively, some of the 362 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: things that you'll hear on CNN is anytime death toll 363 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: is reported, they would say casualty statistics are coming from 364 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: Hamas controlled Ministry of Health. There's also reporting any bombings 365 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: in Gaza have to be described as quote blasts that 366 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: are attributed to nobody until the Israeli military ways in, 367 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: Like those are direct was blasts, right, attributed to nobody 368 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: until the Israeli military ways in, and then waving through 369 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: any statements by the Israeli government while heavily scrutinizing anything 370 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: released by the Palestinian government. 371 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 372 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then even like you have seasoned journalists who 373 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: have like actually been working on reporting in the region 374 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: for like their whole lot decades, that's what they do professionally. 375 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 3: That like it's freezing those people out to the point 376 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 3: like they don't even want to engage with the network. 377 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 3: So morale is pretty low. And again I think this 378 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: is just like anything like apparently the ratings that CNN 379 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 3: and Fox News have gone up since everything, like since 380 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 3: the attacks on October seventh, and like MSNBC viewership has 381 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 3: gone down, which is interesting because I feel like Mehdi Hassan, 382 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 3: who used to be on MSNBC was speaking pretty like, 383 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 3: you know, objectively about what was happening, and even Ali 384 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: Velshi did and then like that seemed to cause some issues. 385 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean, I think these outlets largely just 386 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 3: provide like a narrative to people that help the viewers 387 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: feel completely disconnected to like the tragedy that's unfolding, and 388 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 3: certainly like shield their viewers from any notion that their 389 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 3: own tax dollars or the United States government are like 390 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 3: the fucking fuel that allows this machine to keep going. 391 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a it's a hard truth to hear. 392 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: It's like a real breaking point, I think for a 393 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: lot of people. And so the counter narrative that CNN 394 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: is providing, like it's more popular and helps people just 395 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: kind of stay cocooned. 396 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: And you know, yeah, I mean that's just how it 397 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 3: was too. Like even you know, I'm like in high 398 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: school college early college days for me, with the Iraq War, 399 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: it was just so obscure and you're like, look, how 400 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 3: badass these dudes blew this fucking little town up right, 401 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: and like that was it. You were so disconnected from 402 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: the humanity of it all, and you're just yeah, it's 403 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 3: like they have a playbook for this kind of stuff 404 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: in our Western media. 405 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Iraq War was very very similarly like kind 406 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: of treated the way this one is being treated at 407 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: that time. And then you know, in retrospect now we 408 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: learned that all the people who were pumping the brakes 409 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: and you know, objecting had the fact on their side. 410 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, and well then also too, like the Islamophobia 411 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: that's going, like that Wall Street journal piece that said, 412 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: like dearborn Michigan is like the new like hub of 413 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: like jihad and area. Yeah, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. 414 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: All right, well, those are some of the things that 415 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: are trending on this Tuesday, February sixth. 416 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of 417 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: the show. 418 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, 419 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: get the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy, and 420 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: we will talk. 421 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: To you all tomorrow. 422 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: Fight bite