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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of The Dropping Jim's Podcast.

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Speaker 1: As always, I'm your host, Debbie Brown. I want to

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I finally made it up here

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Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying. So it's that authentic to

427
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: the point where no one knows what's gonna happen until

428
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 1: it's actually happening in real time. And that's what made

429
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: the show fucking dope to me. And I was like,

430
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm in, let's do this ship. And so it's coming

431
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: out October eight. I don't know what it's don't come out,

432
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 1: but shout out. I mean October nine. Sorry, I don't

433
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: know that there's ever been a show like this, like

434
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: full cush full, uncensored, raw, uncut, unfiltered opinions. Um And

435
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: it was just and also like the credibility factor of

436
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: the people involved on the show, like their credibility to

437
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 1: the culture, Like what they have to say matters, what

438
00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: you have to say matters, And I think that, um

439
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: just I want to be more involved in ship like

440
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: this that's that's impactful to the culture as a whole,

441
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: not just oh he's a DJ, let's have I don't

442
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: even to this day, like I don't really DJ clubs.

443
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't do like I don't DJ strip clubs. Not

444
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: no disrespect to that, but that's just not what I

445
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: want to do right now, Like I feel like I

446
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: have a voice and it needs to be heard, and

447
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: I feel like I could just do more of my platform.

448
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well, and I think too, it's like the

449
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: way the way your DJ ability has really crafted your life.

450
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: It's it's the way it's like cultivated your ear. It's

451
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: the way that it's like allowed you to become such

452
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: a big gatekeeper in Los Angeles and and such a

453
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: curator of the culture out here. Yeah, I think uh

454
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: Sway used that word too. He called me a gatekeeper.

455
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: That ship was crazy. I ain't all I know Sway

456
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: is a friend of yours and like I was, but

457
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: it's still like as a radio basion, Like I'm a

458
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: fucking radio basion. Well Sway is a national treasure. Is

459
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: legitimately like he's a treasure. Just but you know what,

460
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: it's crazy. And I was talking about this ship last week.

461
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: I think, can I just point out that you are

462
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: cussing so much like you don't work in radio. I know,

463
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: I radio people were the worst. I'm sorry. Um, what's

464
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: crazy is I was talking about this last week. The

465
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: people that I look up to right in radio because

466
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm a radio baby, are my peers, and it's the

467
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: wildest thing I have ever had to come to grips

468
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: with in my life, because, like you know, I'm I'm

469
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: talking to big boy and I'm just Angie. Martine is

470
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: just giving me advice and like she comes in the room,

471
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, what's up, bro, like you know, and

472
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm like bro, like bro, like you and Martine, but

473
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 1: you're your legends. I look up, I listened. I got

474
00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: your books. Her book is InCred Bid Fire. Aye Martinez

475
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: and Charlemagne have the best books from personalities that I've

476
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 1: ever encountered in my life, and just they literally cultivated

477
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: different pieces of my life. Just those books alone. You

478
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: should read, um. And I'm like, you know, she's polarizing.

479
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: But I read one of her books when I was

480
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: still intern and it was Wendy's Got the Heat. Incredible

481
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: reading Radio incredible, incredible. Okay, I don't check that out

482
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: um right now. Though. What it was interesting enough is

483
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: being a media and podcast and I don't have the

484
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: attention span of read books, so I listened to audiobooks

485
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: and so that's how I just consumed. Because I can

486
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: drive and I can zone out and listen to it.

487
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't really listen to a lot of music while

488
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: I'm driving, So I listened to a lot of podcasts

489
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: and audiobooks. So hopefully there's audiobook for that one. But

490
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: I think that that's that's the biggest thing. Like mine

491
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: trick ever, is once you get to us, you'll just

492
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: just like I'm pretty sure it happened to you at

493
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,239
Speaker 1: some point, you'll just look up and be like, oh, like,

494
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: I'm where I've always wanted to be. I'm appeared to

495
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: the people that I looked up to and grew up

496
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: listening to, and and they look at me as an

497
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: equal and it's a just and it's just crazy because

498
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: you're not ready for it when it happens, like like

499
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: people tell me like, oh you you know, you have

500
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: a big you have a voice and this and that,

501
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: and like, Okay, I'm starting to really understand it because

502
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: my opinions are getting me in trouble and so I'm like, oh,

503
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: like you care what I think? And that is the

504
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: biggest trick that you're not ready for because no one prepared.

505
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: It's like parenthood. I related the parenthood like a lot

506
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: of my friends say, you're never ready to have kids.

507
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 1: You just you just keep you figure it out. So

508
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: that's how I look at this. It's right, I look

509
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: at this like you're never ready for that when it

510
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: actually comes. You just figure it out on the fly.

511
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: And so I feel like that's the transition I'm going

512
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: through right now, is to understand who I am as

513
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: who I am to other people, like the weight of

514
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: the responsibility. Yeah, because that's the thing that a lot

515
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: of people don't realize when they're just chasing like attention

516
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: or getting recognition. It's like to have eyes on you

517
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: is a sacred responsibility, to have people listening to you,

518
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: Like I think the radio is such a sacred medium

519
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: to me because somebody is literally letting me inside of

520
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: their brain, Like I'm entering through your ear. You're not

521
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: distracted by visuals, and I'm just sitting on top of

522
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: your brain, you know. Um. And so I think, like,

523
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that you just said that,

524
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: because that's why a lot of people think, oh, I

525
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: want fame, I want attention, I want a lot of followers,

526
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: And then you get those things and you feel empty

527
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: or you don't know what to do with it because

528
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: you didn't think past getting people to notice you exist

529
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: and there's a responsibility with that, Like you like, what

530
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: are you offering? What are you sharing? What are you

531
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: leading with? Like everyone wants to be an influencer, but

532
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: what what exactly are you influenced? Is it? Is it

533
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: impactful for the betterment of people? And I think that's

534
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: what where I am right now. Like for the most part,

535
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: I always wanted to just make a difference, and I

536
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: always wanted to be I wanted to be what I

537
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: didn't have right, So, not not going deep into like oh,

538
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: to have a dad and like all that stereotypical stuff.

539
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: It had to do with mentorship or um people that

540
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: embrace you, that you that you can actually physically touch.

541
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: There you got to think about it when we were

542
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: coming up. Let's say, I don't know teen twelve years ago,

543
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: I didn't You were probably the only radio personality that

544
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: I had access to think about it. I didn't know

545
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: anybody else there was There was no social media, there

546
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: was nobody was around. Yeah, nobody was around. Nobody was

547
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: around except dev You know what I'm saying. I was

548
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: at everything. You were everything the bottom basement thing in

549
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: Long Beach, the things and at the at sea sun

550
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: the like you were everywhere, and that's where I got

551
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: that from, Like I got part of that from watching

552
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: you watching how glasses moved. Once he became the guy

553
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: in the city watching how once um like, once that

554
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: whole scene was bubbling, I watched how everybody moved, and

555
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: then I also watched how people embraced those different entities,

556
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't ever want to be

557
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: the person that's in seclusion. I don't want ever want

558
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: to be the person that's out of reach, out of touch.

559
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: I don't ever want to be the I want to

560
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: be what I didn't have, which is somebody who has

561
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: the Like we were all learning at the same time, right,

562
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: we all had to learn by making mistakes. I don't

563
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: I want to prevent that for the next people, for

564
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: the next individual. So that's why I do go talk

565
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: to kids. I have people that I mentor, and that's

566
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: why I go out of my way to like there

567
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: probably isn't I don't know. If you're a rapper on

568
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: the come up right now in l A and you

569
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: have I'm would of of of a buzz or you're

570
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: taking yourself seriously, you you probably have myself phone number.

571
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: They're probably there's very few rappers in l A that

572
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: don't have myself phone number. And that's just because I'll

573
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: hit him up. I'll go out of my way to

574
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: be like, yo, hey this you know this young kid

575
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: that I just found on online. I didn't even know

576
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: him from what and he's from here and he was

577
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: like I followed him back and he was like, yo,

578
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: this is crazy, and I d M. I said what's yourself?

579
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: And I just called him and it blew his mind right,

580
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: blew his mind. He's like, yeah, it was this. I'm like, yeah,

581
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: so this I want to tell you. You know, this

582
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: is what. This is what. I peeped your whole, your

583
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: whole rollout on your music. I peep what you're doing.

584
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: I looked at your artwork. I said, stop posting guns,

585
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: stop posting money, don't do this, take all that stuff down,

586
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: do this, do that. And it's just nobody did that

587
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: for us, in my opinion, as a week. I don't

588
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: know your story, but my story, like in being in

589
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: a circle that I was in, nobody did that for us.

590
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: Nobody told us how to prevent our I'm trying to

591
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 1: save someone ten years that no one saved me. Yeah,

592
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying I didn't even get high.

593
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: I went to radio broadcasting school at Cerrito's College in

594
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: two thousand four, right, I got hired in two thousand fifteen,

595
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: So I'm eleven years it took me to get hired.

596
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: And that's part time. That's not like a contract, that's

597
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: not money, that's not that's literally a we're gonna give

598
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: you two hours a week. Wow, that's what it took me,

599
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: eleven years to get two hours a week on the radio.

600
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, And it's so interesting, and

601
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: I want to sit here for a second because that's

602
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: something that I really wanted to share about your story.

603
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: And what I love so much about your journey is

604
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: like the patients, the patients that you sometimes have to

605
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: have with your destiny, you know what I mean, because

606
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: especially in this day and age, which is very much

607
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: a day and age where everybody thinks that what they

608
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: do has to be so grandiose, like everything is a

609
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: grand gesture. Everything has to be not just documentable, but

610
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: captioned in a way that celebratory and captioned in a

611
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: way that sets you at an elevated stance, you know, um,

612
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: And for you, it's like you are standing in your

613
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: destiny right now. From that, from that two thousand and

614
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: seventeen two hour higher, now it's two thousand and nineteen,

615
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: and you are the number one rated night show. So

616
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: not only are you two fifteen at two hours, now,

617
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: it's it's two thousand and nineteen. You have a number

618
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: one rated night show along with Blue Lake Ken, and

619
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: you are celebrated in Los Angeles. You know you you're

620
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: real power player in this city and a power player

621
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: in hip hop. You have a Netflix TV show, Rhythm

622
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: and Flow. You have taken over the b ET stage,

623
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: curated it and hosted it for the past few years.

624
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna be a big part of this Hip Hop

625
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: Awards coming up. Um and and so it's like it's

626
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: crazy because you wait, wait, wait, wait over a dead gate.

627
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: You wait, right, But in that way, you're not sitting

628
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: around bitter, You're not sitting around complaining or watching other

629
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: people with envious eyes like you are playing your position

630
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: in that moment. You're cultivating skills, you're you're you're getting

631
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: prepared for whatever is meant to come. And then in

632
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: God's time, in the exact right timing for your destiny,

633
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: you know, shoot forward. You get something that's headed in

634
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: the right direction, but not fully what you want or

635
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: maybe have worked for, but you still stay focused. And

636
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, this rapid ascension within within

637
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: a two year time span, this rapid ascension, and now

638
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Speaker 1: you're like standing, You're standing in the fullness of everything

639
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: that you work towards. Well, once some one something, I mean,

640
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: something that like a mentor mind told me, is that, um,

641
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: like during my it was like during like a dark time.

642
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: It was like right before I got hired. At my heart,

643
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: it was like because you because you gotta think if

644
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: you grind and if you're like literally poor. Right, So

645
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: I grew up I have the same upbringing as most

646
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: people of color in the city. Right, we're poor on

647
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: welfare blah blah blah blah blah. Right, so when you

648
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: have that, I don't feel like everything else is take

649
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: home like when you I've already been at the bottom.

650
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: So everything else outside of me eating noodles and you know,

651
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: oatmeal every day because it's just just what we had

652
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: up to, I don't know, couch hopping or sleeping in

653
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: the car or whatever the case may be. That's all

654
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: house money. So right now, I'm living in the whipped

655
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: cream of life. That's what That's what the homie calls.

656
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: He's like, you're living in the whip cream of life

657
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: because everything that happens is take home. It's all house money.

658
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: Because not that I don't feel like I didn't I

659
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: don't deserve it, but I didn't have it anyway, you

660
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so now, like you, like

661
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: you said rapid ascension, I look at it like I'm

662
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: making up for lost time. I look at that's why.

663
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: And then um and the plan what you said about

664
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: the waiting period, I think it's like when the dedication,

665
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: hard work plus patients, that's that's that's the formula, you

666
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I feel like if you

667
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: follow that formula in anything, it could be a relationship.

668
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: It could be a relationship with God. It could be

669
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: your relationship with your spouse, it could be your mom,

670
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. Anytime, dedication, hard work, patients,

671
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: that's the formula. That's the recipe to whatever long lasting

672
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: success may look like in whatever whatever venue that you're

673
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 1: looking for. Right So, in my mind, what I'm looking

674
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: at right now is it's been I don't know what,

675
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: fifteen years or something something crazy like that. I'm looking

676
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: at it like, for the ten years that there was

677
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: a void, I'm trying to make up for that, which

678
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: is what, which is what hinders me from appreciating the now.

679
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: And so now I'm like, it's very difficult for me

680
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: to be present because I'm always like, what's next, what's next?

681
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: What can we do? And it's like at some point,

682
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: like my my manager to look at He's like, Bro,

683
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: it's like, you have number one night show in the

684
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: in the city. You have two shows. Actually, you have

685
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: your show Monday through Friday with care If you got

686
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: Homegrown Radio, which is a whole another beast on Saturday,

687
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: which You've got a Netflix television show, You've got your

688
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: own BT stage, you're doing something else on television, you're

689
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: doing now I'm doing local news Fox and Katie. He's like,

690
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: what else do you want? And I was like, I

691
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just not enough. And I was like,

692
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: that's incredibly ungrateful of me to feel like that. No,

693
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna saying grateful. I think you just spent ten

694
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: years training yourself to approach what you do in a

695
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: certain kind of way that you haven't necessarily adjusted for

696
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: what life currently looks like. Yeah, I have not, and

697
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't necessarily want to because I feel

698
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: like when I feel like complacency builds, that's I feel

699
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: like complacency works to your detriment. But that's not complacency.

700
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: There there's like a difference like complacency. It's kind of

701
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: like consciously keeping yourself stuck. But being present is much

702
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: more just about kind of surrendering to the flow of

703
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: life and not being like rigid and just being um

704
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: fully involved in here and now and and standing like

705
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: ingratitude and you know, just not not holding back but

706
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: not pushing forward. Yeah, what I do is I try

707
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: to do And I posted this, um, I think last

708
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: week or the week before, where like I have one

709
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: mirror in my house. It's like, well, obviously I live

710
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: in a little apartment, but I have one mirror in

711
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: my apartment right outside of the bathroom. Everybody has a

712
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: bathroom mirror, but I have one mirror in my apartment

713
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: and it's literally right by my door. And so what

714
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: I posted was most people look in the mirror to

715
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: check their outfit, not they sould And so what I

716
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: do is I don't. I look in the mirror every

717
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: day and I don't look for do my shoes go

718
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: with this? I'm looking at it like I like what

719
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: I see, not an exterior on the interior. Do I like?

720
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: Do I like who I am? Do I like what

721
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: I stand for? Do I do I like what I

722
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: believe in? Do I like my values? Do I like

723
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: where I am? Mentally? Do I like my happiness? Do

724
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: I right? And so I check myself daily and that's

725
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: what keeps me present because I have to be honest.

726
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if anybody can be humbled, but if it

727
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: takes a it takes a different type of person to

728
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: humble yourself. And I feel like that. I feel I

729
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: feel like that that key thing right there, humbling myself

730
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: is that's everything. And so once somebody is able to

731
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: do that and become and become their own checks and balances,

732
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean, anybody can humble you. Go read your YouTube

733
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: comments out of humble you real fast. You know, you

734
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: can read your SoundCloud comments that are really that humble

735
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: you real fast. But outside of that, checking yourself is

736
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: key to being prosperity. In my opinion, self honesty is

737
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: one of the most difficult but powerful and freeing things

738
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: you can ever do for yourself. You know, because most

739
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: people lie to themselves the most, more than they lie

740
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: to any other person. They lie to themselves every second

741
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: of every day. UM, So to be able to really

742
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 1: look yourself in the mirror and and be like, am

743
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: I who I say I am? You know? Am I

744
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: who I say I am? I think? And I've shared

745
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: this like I think a couple of episodes ago, but

746
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: one of the one of the greatest, Like I don't

747
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: want to call us to hack, because there is no

748
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: easy way to be on the journey, but one of

749
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: the most kind of simple but powerful tools is to say,

750
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: every day on purpose, you know, God, please show me

751
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: the truth of who I am, because in multiple ways,

752
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean that can be, that can be kind of

753
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: like you can dive into the meaning of whatever that

754
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: is for you. And so there's so many different perspectives

755
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: for what that statement even means, but it will all

756
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: bring you to the most authentic version of yourself, UM

757
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: saying that, But yeah, I love that, I think. I think, Um,

758
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: that's the most important thing to me and where I

759
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: am now. And then what I've noticed is that's where

760
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: I've always been. But that's also what took me so long.

761
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: It's being true to myself, being authentic to myself. I

762
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: remember I remember having a conversation with an intern and

763
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: they were like, um, why do you help us so much?

764
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: Like they were questioning my intentions, like because it was like,

765
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: because like I've literally like done things and I'm gonna

766
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: talk about something that you did to that changed my life.

767
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: But um, I remember doing things for certain people and

768
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to get into the particulars,

769
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 1: but like it would be big things, like someone didn't

770
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: have shoes, she needed shoes, you know what I'm saying,

771
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: and so like I bought her compairs of shoes and

772
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: then like feeding them on like um, or even like

773
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: helping them with rent, you know, ship like that. And

774
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: it was just like, it's not about to me. It's

775
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: not about Oh, I want to do this because it

776
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: makes me feel good. It's because I respect your commitment. Yes,

777
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: I respect how much you're committed to doing this. You're

778
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: still showing up, you still want to show up. Um.

779
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: I can't say enough about about Loupe Ump. She came,

780
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: she started working with us as an intern, and she

781
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: looks up to you like you're like a You're like

782
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: a god, turn too far. I'm telling you so, long

783
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: story short. She she would go through the most ship

784
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: and I don't want to like put a risk, but

785
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: her dad got deported, Oh my god, literally, which is

786
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: a struggle to all you know Latino. It's a real

787
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: issue here, especially here in the l A because I'm

788
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: we're both from here. But god, she still came to

789
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 1: the station and was blogging and like doing social media

790
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, bro, like what are you doing? Because

791
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: I could tell someone's bothering her? And then she was

792
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: like yeah. And then when we didn't find out until

793
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: after the fact, and we found out and we were

794
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: like what are you doing? Like what She's like, well,

795
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna come. Like it's okay, Like go deal

796
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: with be with your family, Like, deal with that. But

797
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: that level of dedication, and I have so much respect

798
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: for hard work patients. It's the same thing, that level

799
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: of dedication. It reminds me of us you on the

800
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: bus four hours me, Like I remember every struggle I remember,

801
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: And I have such a low tolerance for people that

802
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: like complain about petty things, you know what I mean,

803
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: Like you have a right to your process and a

804
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: right to your perspective. But I'm not going to indulge you,

805
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to coddle you. Like if this

806
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: is your dream or if this is something that's important

807
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: to you, it's no one's job but yours to find

808
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: a way to make it happen, you know, because things

809
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: are You know, I've had different interns over the years

810
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: that I have to take blame in enabling them, because

811
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: like when I first really got on in my field,

812
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to help everybody for the

813
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: help I didn't have, you know what I mean, And

814
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: so specifically with women, because like I never had a

815
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: woman really like take me under their wing or have

816
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, mentor me. Like I had a lot of

817
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: amazing men in my corner in radio um. But so

818
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: anytime anytime somebody would write me, starting way back when

819
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: they send me messages on my space too, you know,

820
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: hitting me up on Twitter or whatever, showing up at

821
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: my event, I would always try to like find them,

822
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: find them at internships somewhere, or get them involved somewhere.

823
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 1: And a couple of people I would take under my wing.

824
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: And you know, I thought I thought I saw some

825
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: of myself and them, But very early on it was

826
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: like it was a slap in the face. Like you

827
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: you get people complaining about the silliest things or not

828
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: doing what ever was needed to get the job done,

829
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: but expecting so much in return, and I'm like, I

830
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: can't keep They'll figure it out. What's meant for them

831
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: is for them, But I only have enough bandwidth to

832
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: supply the people that are number one really invested in

833
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: themselves and not just looking for someone to make things

834
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: happen for them, for the graham Um. But also like

835
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: there is a level of reciprocity that is necessary even

836
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: in a mentorship, like you have to you have to

837
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: give something back, even if all you have to give

838
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: is gratitude or your hard work, but you have to.

839
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: No relationship can sustain or exist if it's one person

840
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: facilitating and the other person just taking. And that's super

841
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: true for mentorships too, and for you know, assistance for

842
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: anybody that is taken under any kind of wing by

843
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: another person. Like even if you don't have the same

844
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: connections money or value what you perceive to be value

845
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: that you're bringing to the table, you do have something

846
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: to offer, and so you need to give as well.

847
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: You know, I look at um, I would something always

848
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: tell uh my mentees and kids and students when I

849
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: go to schools, I say, look, look at the look

850
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: at the world in the universe like a store. Right,

851
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: you can't just walk into a store and just take stuff.

852
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: That's not how it works. You have to provide some

853
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: sort of monetary conversation, currency, work for heart, whatever the

854
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: case may be. That's how the world works. If you

855
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: need something, you have to be willing to give something.

856
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: That's how fasting works, if you if you were spiritual

857
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. Right, So it's like,

858
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: if you're not looking, if you're looking to only pillage

859
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: the resources or leach off stuff, or I'm only looking

860
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: to get getting game game game, what are you willing

861
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: to give up? And that there always has to be

862
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: a trade with the universe and always requires some some

863
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: sacrifice something. And so I remember early on about to

864
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: house at eleven, Yeah, about two thousand and eleven, um Sialace,

865
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: my manager was like look, he was like, you basically

866
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: don't have anything because I'm at this time at my

867
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: mom's house in the in the room downstairs, I'm broke.

868
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't have nothing going on except like wrap stuff

869
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: with g and the stuff. But I was bottomed out, right,

870
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: So he was like, well, you know everybody right, I'm like, okay, cool.

871
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: He's like, that's your currency. That's your currency. Is the

872
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: fact that you have relationships in the city. I say, yeah,

873
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: but I don't have anywhere to get there. I can't

874
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: like how I'm gonna geting. I can't. I can't even afford.

875
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: There's no Uber at this time, just for the millennials listening, like,

876
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: there's no lift, there's no no Uber. So I can't

877
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: get on the bus at two o'clock in them, I

878
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: mean at one at twelve o'clock at night to be

879
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: in an event. It's just not safe where I'm coming from.

880
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: So he's like, all right, well, I have a car,

881
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: I have gas. You're the currency you can get this in.

882
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: So that became our system. So all I had to

883
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: do then was provide means to get in, which means

884
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: I had to cultivate and curate my relationships, which means

885
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: I had to stay socially connected, which means I had

886
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: to come out of my comfort zone and give something.

887
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: You have to give something to get and it's just

888
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: that's how it works. I remember being twenty seven years old,

889
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: and it was one of the most humbling things in

890
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: my in my whole career. I don't even think you

891
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: know about this, but I remember being twenty seven years

892
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: old and I would take donuts to rig the studio

893
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: just so I could be in the room with tattoo

894
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: of them while they were doing their show. And it

895
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: was just like, and I would be in there and

896
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: there are people on air who were I don't know

897
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: one like there was a there was I think there

898
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: was a nineteen year old there, and I'm bringing donuts

899
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: just so I can like get in And I was like,

900
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: and then and then later on, like Silas had told me,

901
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 1: he said, look, it's two things that everyone universally wants

902
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: and needs. Two things. And then funk with you. You

903
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: put money in their pocket or food in their stomach.

904
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: That's that's real. It's the realist I ever give to

905
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: young people. Is you put food in my stomach or

906
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: money in my pocket. I'm fucking with you. Yeah, off top, Yeah,

907
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: And that's the Trojan Horse I said. I said, listen,

908
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: you want to get in the radio station. I said,

909
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: you showing up with your air check. Cool, you might

910
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: get in the lobby. You're showing up with this with

911
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: with with your resume. I mean, you might get upstairs. Maybe,

912
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: I said, you know what everybody else's don't you know

913
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: who's always going to get buzz in? The person carrying

914
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: the big takeout box with the Chinese food in it. Hey,

915
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: let's let her in. Who she here to see? Right? Yeah,

916
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: that's so true. Let her in. I don't care who

917
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: she here. This what you got in the box? So

918
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: I got extra, you got an extra. Yeah. So I

919
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: was like, Bro, that's the key. And so I remember

920
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: doing these things. I was taking breakfast up there just

921
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: so I could be in the room. And that's that's

922
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: our metaphor, that's our mantra to this day. Just get

923
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: in the room. Yeah, get in the room. That's what

924
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: you did. You you were making you were making copies,

925
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: getting coffee like whatever, but you needed to get in

926
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: the room. It's so funny you say that, because it

927
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: just reminded me of something. I didn't do this all

928
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: the time because I couldn't. But I remember, like when

929
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: I first got my radio internship, like I I had nothing,

930
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: Like I had no money, I was a sav little

931
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: college student. I did have like this dope part time

932
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: job working for this like billionaire randomly doing like concierge,

933
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: like ordering his lunch and whatnot. But you know what,

934
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: I was spending on gas and all of that, Like

935
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: I had nada UM. But I remember, like, just to

936
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: like impress the people I was interning for, I would

937
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: hit them like all my way and I, hey, are

938
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: you guys hungry? And I would stopped and I would

939
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: buy them tacos from this taco shop up the street

940
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: from the studio awful will Shore will share Lembrea and

941
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: I would come and they were like dah yo, And

942
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: then they would shout me out on the air. They're like,

943
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: all right, coming up next, and you know our girl,

944
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: Debbie dev Man, she feeding us. We're in here enjoying

945
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: these tacos. And then like my name would start getting

946
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: used more and more on air, and then that would

947
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: turn into them being like, yo, what's going on you

948
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: heard any crazy stories lately? And then I would start

949
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: doing like little gossip segments and you know that turned

950
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: into what was called the Dirt with Debbie dev that

951
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: I did UM at a time when it was really

952
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: hard to find gossip. Uh, but yeah, like it it's

953
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: funny because and I remember, I would stop and I

954
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: would get them tacos, and I would not have enough

955
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: to get myself a taco, right, Like, I wouldn't have

956
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: enough money to actually feed myself. So I'd be walking

957
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: in there hungry, but with bags of tacos, where every

958
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: person in the studio it was the DJ and then

959
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: the two guys Romeo and dj Um, who I'm forever

960
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 1: grateful to that, and they would get like two tacos each,

961
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, oh, thank God. And I think

962
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: that it's that type of stuff that people overlook because

963
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: they're not looking for to for reciprocity, they're looking to

964
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: get They're not looking like, how can I bring value?

965
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: The key to my success? I always tell people obviously

966
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: it's dedication, hard work patients, but it is literally bringing value.

967
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: I try to bring more value to people than they

968
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: can offer me in that way, you're always in it's

969
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: just credit. It's karma credit, and I build my karma

970
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: credit daily. We call it doing an extra credit and me,

971
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: my me and my team, right, we call it we

972
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: do extra credit every day. If you all, if you're

973
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: doing extra credit every time you turn into assignment. You

974
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: can never fail a class, right, So that's how I

975
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: look at life at this point. Every day I get

976
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: up and it's like, okay, what else can I do?

977
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: All Right, I'll hit up I'll randomly and I know

978
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: it seems random to to some like artists and producers

979
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: and DJs. I'll just randomly go through my d M

980
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: s and pick a DJ like that that hit me up,

981
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: and I'll just hit him up and like, yo, you know, um,

982
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: I'll call them because you can call through Instagram now,

983
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: so I'll call them and just be like and there

984
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: and there. It blows their whole entire world, right because

985
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: I'll be sitting in the station and they're like, oh, yo,

986
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: you're you're at work. I'm like, yeah, what's up? Like

987
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: I've seen you asked me for some advice? I got

988
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: five ten minutes, what's up? And it's just like that

989
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: kind of that guy, but that that wasn't available, that

990
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: was not available to me. And That's what I'm talking about.

991
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: And that's so bringing in full circle to my my

992
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: my quote unquote purpose is I feel like that's what

993
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: I'm chasing at this point. I'm chasing my purpose, and

994
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: I feel like that's stronger than any and everything. That's

995
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: stronger than big that's bigger than the company that I

996
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: worked for, that's bigger than any and everything that that

997
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: can possibly keep me from maximizing my full potential is

998
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: once you chase purpose. I was just talking to this

999
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: guy on Instagram Live the other day. I think I've

1000
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: posted it. I posted a video and I was trying

1001
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: to explain to him. I'm writing, I'm trying to put

1002
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: together a book right now. Yeah, so I explained to

1003
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: you the concept after this, but um, I was explaining him,

1004
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: explain it to him. He was like, well, I just

1005
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: want to make money in the industry, and I said,

1006
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: that's not it. That's not You're never gonna win like

1007
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: that because you'll constantly be chasing the bag and not

1008
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: chasing the opportunities. And he was like, okay, so what

1009
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: should all you doing? So I kind of broke it

1010
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: down for him, like you need to chase purpose because

1011
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: when you chase purpose, the universe backs you up. It's

1012
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: like when artists are trying to do ship independently and

1013
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 1: they're like, I can't get my music off the ground.

1014
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: I can't. It's not working yet because you don't have

1015
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: a machine like a label. So all the label is

1016
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: is the universe. And once you have a label behind you,

1017
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: once you have the universe behind you, it becomes easier

1018
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: to accomplish things. So that's how I look at purpose.

1019
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: When you look when you're chasing your purpose the universe,

1020
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: it's like I fully endorsed this, and it becomes easier

1021
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: and easier and easier and easy. And then especially when

1022
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: you're doing it with the pure heart, because that's the thing.

1023
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: It's like, you know a lot of people right now

1024
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: put purpose side inside with like recognition and validation and

1025
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: being celebrated, but it's like when it's like the purest

1026
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: part of your heart after Yeah, that's that's remember. I

1027
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: remember a conversation UM with Nipsey and it was one

1028
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: of the l It was one of the it was

1029
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: one of the conversation we have in the studio. I

1030
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: think I talked about this before, but I told him

1031
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: the truth about himself and it was an uncomfortable conversation.

1032
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: It was real uncomfortable because I dug in his ask.

1033
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: So I was like, bro, like you need you're literally

1034
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: your brand, your name is bigger than your records. And

1035
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: that's a good problem to have, because most people get

1036
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 1: overshadowed by their records. Yeah, most people like the Panda record.

1037
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: Don't know who did dependa record? Yeah, I said, but

1038
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 1: your brand is so big that your records are sitting

1039
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: under your brand. All you need is to contribute and

1040
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: participate in the industry just a little bit, give us

1041
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: a commercially viable song that we can all celebrate and

1042
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: play at the same time, and then everything else will

1043
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: become easier for you. And that was the That was

1044
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: the nice version. That's the pleasant version of the conversation. Right.

1045
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: It was uncomfortable. It was really uncomfortable because I was

1046
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: telling him some stuff. He probably knew that was the truth,

1047
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: but never really acknowledged to himself, And and I was

1048
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: just doing I was on I was grandstanding that day

1049
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: because I was so frustrated the fact that how amazing,

1050
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: amazingly talented you are and the world hasn't seen it yet.

1051
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: And that's because the vehicle for the world to see

1052
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: musicians is a record, is a song, is their art,

1053
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: and you haven't provided the art to the masses to

1054
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: where everybody can put a light on you and appreciate

1055
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: who you are in totality, and so he walked out

1056
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: the studio. He walked up the studio and it was

1057
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 1: just like an awkward like that was an awkward energy.

1058
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: So I was like, so me and so I was

1059
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: about to leave, and then as I was leaving, how

1060
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: he was standing by the door, he pulled me inside,

1061
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: was like, hey, you know what head like. He was like,

1062
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: he said, you know why? You know why niggas fun

1063
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: with you? And I was like, honestly, maybe I think

1064
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: I know. I don't know, he said, he said, because

1065
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: he said, you say crazy ship to niggas, I ain't

1066
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: on front. He's like, you'd be saying some wow ship

1067
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: to nigga's head. He's like, but your intentions are pure

1068
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: and that's why I funk with you, because your intentions

1069
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: are pure. And I was like, damn, I appreciate that.

1070
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: He's like a right for show. And then I was

1071
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: it and then he gave me. He gave me. He

1072
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: put a couple of songs. He put one song on

1073
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: the album because of that conversation, and it was just

1074
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: like that to me meant a lot because not because

1075
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: it was nip, but it was like finally like not

1076
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: finally that someone can see past my delivery. Because my

1077
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: delivery is not good. I understand that, but someone can

1078
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: see past my delivery. But my intention, my intent is

1079
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: not to this this you. My intent is not to

1080
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: like talk shipped to you, for lack of a better term.

1081
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: But my my intent is just too I'm trying to

1082
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: get you to understand what I'm saying. And my delivery

1083
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: is bad, but my, my, my, it could be worked on.

1084
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: And because I'm just so passionate about it, and so

1085
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: I just deliver it as is. And part of it

1086
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: is passionate, and part of it is my lack of

1087
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: care for raw emotion, I guess because I'm not I'm

1088
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: not the biggest emotional person, right so, and I think

1089
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: that comes from a childhood. But then Salace told me

1090
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: one day, he was like, I saw you go downtown

1091
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: and buy your mom perfumed that she wanted for Christmas,

1092
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: and gave it to her for Christmas in the same

1093
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: bag you bought it in black, the little black downtown

1094
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: alley bag. And and then and he was like, that's

1095
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: when I knew you were different. And I was like yeah,

1096
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: and I said because to me, and I just I

1097
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: just talked about this uh on air. I think like

1098
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: earlier last week or earlier this week, where it was

1099
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: like I don't care about the wrapping, I care about

1100
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: the gift. That's the truth. I don't. I could if

1101
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: someone brings me some food, I give a damn with

1102
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: baggage in or what play to come on? If I'm hungry,

1103
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat the food that comes from how I

1104
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: grew up. I grew up in a survivalist mentality. My

1105
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: mom will come home and be like, uh, hey, I

1106
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: don't get paid for another week. Take all their food

1107
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: out of refrigerator, put it in the freezer. Here goes

1108
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: some candles to power about to get cut off. There

1109
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: was no like oh like baby, this It was just

1110
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: everything was solution, problem solving. Boom boom boom. Right. I

1111
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: remember like, oh my I don't have like her car

1112
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: would breakdown, right, I don't have a car right now,

1113
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: So we're gonna we gotta get up an hour early.

1114
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna take the bus. And it was no like

1115
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: there was no bereavement or no, there was just like

1116
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: problem solving. That's literally how my mind works to this day.

1117
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: And so people who don't know me or haven't taken

1118
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: taken the opportunity or the or the time to get

1119
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: to know why I function the way I function automatically

1120
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: just sue my mine, asshole. And so it's like it's

1121
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: not that it's just literally I don't take time to

1122
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: process the emotion behind stuff. I'm just in problem solving mode. Yes,

1123
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm a Capricorn, I'm on my outpha.

1124
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to fix ship. So I'm not really tripping

1125
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: off of the nuance of how we're feeling about the

1126
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: actual problem. I'm trying to fix the problem. And so

1127
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: that's obviously having in my personal life but benefited me

1128
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: tremendously in my professional life. Is I don't take anything personal.

1129
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We're so similar because I mean,

1130
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: I am I'm a highly emotional person um, but not

1131
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: for myself. I'm mostly like, if somebody else needs something,

1132
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: I will find a way to make it happen. Or

1133
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: if I see somebody else crying, I will cry, but

1134
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't cry about myself. I don't cry

1135
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: about like my own hardships because I I'm very like

1136
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: solution based as well. And it's like I've even had

1137
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: someone say to me like, you know, like your tone

1138
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: of voice, like you're always so stern, and you know,

1139
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: they took it as like I was speaking down on them,

1140
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: or like I was like in a in an authoritative position,

1141
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, that's not my intention at all.

1142
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: But I just like to be very like literal, especially

1143
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: if we are in like a moment um then needs it,

1144
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: Like if we're in a moment that it's like, listen,

1145
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: we can't get bogged down by semantics, we can't get

1146
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: bogged down by emotion, Like we have to move, we

1147
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: have to act. You know that That's very much how

1148
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: I am. And it's funny that you talked about your

1149
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: childhood because just in the last month, I end up

1150
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: having one of the biggest breakthroughs of my life about

1151
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: why I operate in the way that I do um

1152
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, this is this is work

1153
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: that I had been doing, obviously for the last ten

1154
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: plus years, you know what I mean, like like work

1155
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: on self, work on working through past traumas, Like I

1156
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: have a childhood that includes some abandonment. I have a

1157
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: childhood that includes some emotional isolation and a lot of

1158
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: people in my life, like, part of my identity has

1159
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: really become my strength, my resilience. Right, Like a lot

1160
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: of people that are close to me that like know

1161
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: me intimately view me as being a very very strong,

1162
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: solution based like proactive person um, and I am all

1163
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: those things. I am a deeply resilient person and I

1164
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: and I like that quality about myself. It's become very

1165
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: like intrinsic with my identity, but a new breakthrough to

1166
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: my healing. And this is what I thought was so dope,

1167
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: because sometimes you think you've done the work right and

1168
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: you think, God, why am I still tripping off this.

1169
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: I I've already I've already worked through that. I know

1170
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: why I do that, I know what it comes from.

1171
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: I've you know, I've healed that. And someone said recently

1172
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: to me, Ron Holnick, said, you've healed the part that

1173
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: you healed. To me, that was one of the biggest breakthroughs.

1174
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: You've healed the part that you've healed, and their celebration

1175
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: in that and because us of what you've heeled, you're

1176
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: at this moment where now you can go a little

1177
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: deeper into whatever that trauma was. Do you know what

1178
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: I mean? Like Yeah, it's consistent work that you're never

1179
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: quite done with because there's layers to it. So even

1180
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: though I had thought I had done all this work

1181
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: on my you know, all my feelings of abandonment or

1182
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: emotional isolation, and I had done a tremendous amount of work,

1183
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: Now because of that work, there's another new layer to

1184
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: unlock me that I have the opportunity to investigate. So

1185
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: what came to me was to go back to like

1186
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: my identity being found in my resilience and in my strength.

1187
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: What I realized was, and this was so humbling for me,

1188
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: something that was such a big part of my identity

1189
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: was actually rooted in being a coping mechanism. My strength

1190
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: was a coping mechanism. I had started inadvertently and subconsciously

1191
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: to equate my self worth with how much pain I

1192
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: could tolerate. That's deep, deep, that's deep deep. It was

1193
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: mind blowing to me to come to that level of

1194
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: self just in the last month. You know, it's so crazy,

1195
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: I think, because I had done so much work up

1196
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: until that point, so much work on healing and you know,

1197
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: years of personal growth. It really came to me like

1198
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: a flash of lightning in an instant, and it wasn't

1199
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: painful to come to that recognition. It came to me

1200
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: like God whispered into my ear, and just in a

1201
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: in a millisecond moment, It's like I had read ten

1202
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: thousand books that had led me to that point, and

1203
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: it was the most beautiful thing to me, because I

1204
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: felt like, wow, to get to that piece. How lucky

1205
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: am I to have unlocked that something that I used

1206
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: to consider painful and maybe would have spent a lifetime

1207
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: avoiding looking at. But how beautiful and breathtaking that I

1208
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: get to lean into this record nice this in myself

1209
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: and heal it and be done with it and I

1210
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: have a new layer of freedom. How much pain you

1211
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: could tell it? That's yeah, and that yeah, And it's

1212
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: like what It was really a coping mechanism for me,

1213
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,439
Speaker 1: because when I was dealing with different emotionally painful things

1214
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: as a young person that I didn't know how to

1215
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: interpret and I didn't know how to survive, all I

1216
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: could focus on was being strong, not succumbing to emotions,

1217
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: not breaking down. I'm gonna take a sip of water, um.

1218
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: And so that that amount of strength ended up defining

1219
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: what the rest of my life look like and and

1220
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: was beneficial to me and was beneficial to other people,

1221
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: but its root was still based in trauma, you know,

1222
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: So to uncover that, it's just like, you know, I'm

1223
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: not going to necessarily change overnight or heal it overnight,

1224
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: but I can observe it in myself now and know

1225
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: why my reaction is what it is, and then offer

1226
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: myself permission to choose a different reaction, Like maybe now

1227
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: I do have permission to be very emotional about myself

1228
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: if I want to be. Yeah, it's an option. Um

1229
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: So I was just I was blown away by that,

1230
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: by that new insight into myself, and it also really

1231
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: excited me because I thought, dang, like, if I'm lucky,

1232
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: life is long, and I have so much more opportunity

1233
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: two grow and investigate and refine and sharpen myself. You know,

1234
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: it's a journey. That's crazy. Though, that's crazy. You had

1235
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: that breakthrough. I remember, you know what's dope is when

1236
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: you have those though nobody could tell you nothing, nothing, Yo,

1237
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: I was like, and I already like as a soul,

1238
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: I was the ship. Like I know that sounds very egoing.

1239
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: I already think I'm hot ship. I love, love myself deeply.

1240
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: But I walked out of there and I was like days,

1241
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: I was just like, yo, you killing life, Like no,

1242
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: I know, I know. That's all I'm telling you. Like

1243
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: every day when I look in the mirror, I look

1244
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: for those I look for those those gems. I'll be

1245
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: like looking at it, like, Okay, what else can I do?

1246
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: How else can I be? Can I be of service? House?

1247
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: Can I not even just for other people? How can

1248
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: I be a service to myself? Um? Oh? Speaking of

1249
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: with this, I do want to talk about um So,

1250
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: I remember, damn, this had to be every bit of

1251
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: two thousand maybe eight, two thousand eight ish, And I

1252
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: remember you were doing your thing. You already like dev

1253
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: in the city you were, you were deaf and I

1254
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: think we're you music director at the time. Okay, so yeah,

1255
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: so you were like popping and and so like you

1256
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: were popping, and I was always looked up to you,

1257
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: and I was just like, damn, like, which is interesting

1258
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: because I think we're like the same age or I'm

1259
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: actually older than you, But I always looked up to you,

1260
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: and I was like damn, Like she got her ship

1261
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: together this and that and this opportunity came up. Now backstory,

1262
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: I'm still broke. I don't have nothing really going on,

1263
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: not really making money like that. UM, I had just

1264
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: got fired from my job at Triple A, and I

1265
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: had went all in on this entertainment thing. So when

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01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 1: I when I finally when I got fired UM from

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01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: I had obviously had already had jobs and stuff. So

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01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: when I had worked at Triple A and they fired me,

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01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: and I remember how I felt. And I felt like empty,

1270
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: but I felt worse than empty because it's like, damn,

1271
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: I can't even do this right, you know what I'm saying.

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01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: And I just remember, but I remember knowing this is

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01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: before content creator was a thing. I remember like I'm

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01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: better than this, and I know what my what my

1275
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: purpose is, I know what my passion is, and I

1276
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: want to go all in on this. And so I

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01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: remember specifically when they fired me, I was like, I

1278
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: never want to feel this way again. I never want

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01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: to be like depending on someone else's brand to to

1280
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: to define my career. And I was like, it's all

1281
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: or nothing from here on out. And this was in

1282
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, I think when I got fired

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01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: from Triple A, UM, and that literally was the last

1284
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: job I had until I hired it. I heard in

1285
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: two I was just in the streets for eight years,

1286
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: just figuring it out, not doing anything illegal, but just

1287
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: doing like email blasts and DJ and every That's why

1288
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: I know everybody in the streets. I didn't DJ in

1289
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: everybody's hood and and l A, you know what I'm saying. Um,

1290
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: But long story short, I remember when they fired me.

1291
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: They walk you out to your car, the whole production, right,

1292
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: I'm twenty something, like, you don't need to walk me

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01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: to my car. You know, I'm not gonna tear nothing

1294
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: up on MAA. So they're walking to me my car

1295
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: to give me my final check. And I was sitting

1296
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: in my truck like, damn, I got fired. I gotta

1297
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: go tell my mom I got fired from my job.

1298
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what. That's when I

1299
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: decided I'm never gonna do this again. This is never

1300
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Either I'm either gonna be successful or I'm

1301
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a bum sleeping on my mom's couch at

1302
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: fifty years old, like a big extreme. That's what it was.

1303
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: I have uncles I live with that. So anyway, you

1304
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: know I'm saying, So I remember specifically I took my

1305
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: last check, I cashed it, and I took the homies

1306
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: the red Lobster and they were like, what do you

1307
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 1: what are we doing? I said, were celebrating. They were like,

1308
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: what do you mean we're celebrating? Usually got fired. I said,

1309
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: we're celebrating the end of Aaron Drake. We're celebrating the

1310
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: end of me doing this and pretending I'm not supposed

1311
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: to be great, like this is over. I'm supposed to

1312
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: be I'm supposed to be great and that's what we're

1313
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: celebrating today. We're celebrating all or nothing. And they were like,

1314
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: all right, cool. I spent my last check at rail

1315
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: officer with the homies just breaking bread like it was

1316
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: like the person who got me that job, I took

1317
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: her and then like my homies and stuff, and long

1318
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: story short, I didn't have nothing for eight years, right,

1319
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:19,560
Speaker 1: But I remember specifically this opportunity came up where I

1320
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: was supposed to go to Vegas with glasses and somebody

1321
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: else and my phone was off and I think me

1322
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 1: and you were talking over g chat on Google the

1323
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: Google Chat or something like that. We're talking. We were

1324
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: talking to a a that was my old am. We

1325
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 1: were talking on AIM and I was like you were

1326
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: like you were We were talking and I was just

1327
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: like I was bummed out about something and You're like,

1328
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 1: you know what's going on? I'm like, um, well, I

1329
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: supposed I want to go to Vegas to network for

1330
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: this opportunity. I remember what it was. I think it

1331
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: was radio. I think it was something else, a gig

1332
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,560
Speaker 1: or something. And I was supposed to go, but I

1333
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: couldn't afford to go, and it was just because I

1334
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 1: had no income. Like you know what I'm saying, I'm

1335
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: literally just a bum at this point. And I was

1336
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: like still calling my friend a bum. Well, I was

1337
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: just I literally had no means to take care of myself.

1338
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: Ze like, so I remember specifically telling you what was

1339
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: going on. You had to drag it out of me

1340
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't tell you. You drug it out of me.

1341
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: And then we were talking. I think we jumped on

1342
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: my house phone, like my mom had a phone, and

1343
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: we jumped. You were at the station, I believe, and

1344
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: we were on the We were on the house phone

1345
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 1: and y'all was telling you about what was going on.

1346
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: It was just all bad and and then um, you

1347
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: were like well, you know, you need to have your

1348
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: phone on if nothing else. This is something that I

1349
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,560
Speaker 1: still carry to this day that I tell interns and

1350
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: I tell kids. I said, pay your cell phone bill first,

1351
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: and you told me that in two thousand and eight.

1352
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: I believe this was you were like, your cell phone

1353
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: is the most important bill you have as an adult, because,

1354
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,799
Speaker 1: especially as someone who's trying to do be an entrepreneur

1355
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: and be in this business, is that's your lifeline. Without

1356
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: your phone and no one can contact you for more

1357
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: work and you can't reach out to other people for

1358
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: more work, pay your phone bill. And I said I can't, right,

1359
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: and my phone bill, I believe it was like a

1360
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 1: hundred bucks and it was like eighty dollars. I didn't

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01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 1: have eighty dollars to pay my cell phone bill. And

1362
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: he was like, well, how much is the bill. I

1363
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: told you it's like eighty bucks. And then you were like, okay,

1364
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: give me your account number, and I'm like, no, I

1365
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 1: can't do that. Then we had another argument, and then

1366
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: I was like I can't do that, and You're like why,

1367
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: and so we end up getting to the root of it.

1368
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 1: My account was overdrafted, like two hundred dollars and to

1369
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: a long story short, he was like, bro, give me

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01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: the account number. Is like, leave me, just give me

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01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: the account number, right, and I was like, So we

1372
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: got another argument and then so what loanst shot you

1373
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: gave me? I gave you my account number, and then

1374
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: you hit me back like like a little while later,

1375
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: you said, hey, check your account, pay yourself phone bill.

1376
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: I never want to talk about this again. And I

1377
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: was like, what the So I checked my account and

1378
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: you put three hundred dollars in my account and that

1379
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: right there, that was like, man, I will kill a

1380
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: nigga for David, like like, and it was just like

1381
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: but but you gotta think like being you, I'm like

1382
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: twenty five or I don't know how I was at

1383
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: the time, yeah, something like that, and it's just like, no,

1384
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: I was younger than that. We were younger, damn. However,

1385
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't remember it was two thousand seven probably, I

1386
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: think this was. And when you did that, that's another

1387
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: thing that changed my life because it was like, damn,

1388
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: there are people like this, you know what I'm saying,

1389
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: because I didn't be. I didn't I was out on

1390
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,759
Speaker 1: my ass like there. I was like, there are people

1391
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: so there are people that exist that give a fuck,

1392
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I hadn't. I didn't know,

1393
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: like I didn't not necessarily. I was not necessarily people

1394
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 1: because obviously I have family members, but people who don't

1395
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: have to give a fuck, you know what I'm saying.

1396
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: And that to me was like one of the key

1397
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 1: things that a key pivotal moment in my life was like,

1398
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: you need to be this person to other people. You

1399
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: need to always remember this moment and duplicate and regurgitate

1400
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: this moment over and over and over and over and over,

1401
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 1: because this is going to provide hope for people that

1402
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:11,560
Speaker 1: don't believe that there's hope. And so I was like, okay,

1403
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: so when I paid myself on bi A one on

1404
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: the trip or whatever, and then I finally like I

1405
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: believe it's like, mind be four years ago now when

1406
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: I finally got my job at my Heart and stuff

1407
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: like that, I think, Um, I got you a opening

1408
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: and playing to there or something for your was it

1409
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 1: your birthday? Yeah, it's like the best, like one of

1410
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: the best gifts I've ever gotten because you were flying

1411
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: back and forth. Yeah, I was flying a lot then,

1412
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: and it was like an open in a plane ticket

1413
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: that I've recently used and it had like a note

1414
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 1: from you, and I was like, oh my god, because

1415
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: I remember that and that was well over ten years ago.

1416
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: Really it really means a lot to me. Um Number

1417
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 1: one that I mean, you know, you're like your karmic

1418
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: understanding of like paying that forward, because like that's what

1419
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 1: it means, you know. And it's like I I've had

1420
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: similar moments in my life which probably shaped my ability

1421
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: to want to do that. For you, it's like knowing

1422
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: that that you can be safe knowing that, like you said,

1423
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: there are people outside of your family that do care,

1424
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: that your life matters, that your destiny matters, and if

1425
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 1: someone can play a part in it, you know. And

1426
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: I remember I told you, let's never talk about this again,

1427
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: and we did not ever speak of You didn't even

1428
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 1: remember it. Yeah, you brought it up when I was

1429
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: on your podcast to you you literally did not even

1430
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: remember doing that something that changed my life. And I

1431
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: was like, and so I was like, I wonder what

1432
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: that's like, Like I want to keep in mind. I mean,

1433
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: this is like this is when I like, it's not

1434
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: like I had a lot of money, like I was

1435
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: making minimum wage at the radio station, but for whatever reason,

1436
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: because the side gigs at that moment in time, I

1437
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 1: had that three hundred dollars spare, and it wouldn't have

1438
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: put me on the streets. But I was not rolling

1439
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: in money by means. It wasn't like our three hundred out. No,

1440
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: it was like three hundred dollars, but it wasn't a

1441
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars that was going to make or break

1442
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 1: me that and I feel like that's important. So that

1443
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,719
Speaker 1: so going back to what I was saying earlier about

1444
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: when the interns asked me why do I do things

1445
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: for them, I said, because somebody did this for me.

1446
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, I want you to do the

1447
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: same thing. I said. You're not always gonna be hungry

1448
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: and not know how, you're gonna pay your phone, pay

1449
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: your phone bill, You're not always going to not have shoes.

1450
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: But I want you to remember this moment because like

1451
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: Tiffany has to throw the rope back, Yeah, that's it.

1452
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 1: That's all I want you to do, and I don't

1453
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 1: want nothing in return. I'm never gonna tell anybody about this.

1454
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't want you to think like this is a

1455
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: safe space. But I want you to remember these moments

1456
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 1: because going there, you're not always going to be in

1457
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: this situation. There's gonna be a time when somebody else

1458
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: is in need. And I want you to throw the

1459
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: rope back. And so like you gotta, you gotta promise

1460
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: me to stop telling this story though, because when I

1461
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 1: said we'll never talk about I think it's important for people.

1462
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 1: You gotta, okay, I don't tell the story to to

1463
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 1: revitalize the start. I tell the story because it was

1464
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: It literally ate part of my life. And it's like,

1465
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: you don't you don't even understand, like that means the

1466
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: world to me head because I I just so deeply

1467
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: admire and treasure the person that you are and what

1468
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: you do for people and what you provide for people.

1469
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: So for you to even share with me that I

1470
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: played any role whatsoever and who you've become and what

1471
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: you've done is like a true pleasure, a true gift,

1472
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm grateful. I'm grateful that God even

1473
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 1: put us on the same path together to mean, to

1474
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 1: mean something to each other and to aid each other,

1475
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: because I mean, you've you've helped me tremendously over the years,

1476
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: like there have been times where you've helped me, you know, literally,

1477
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 1: like I had, I was helping someone in my family

1478
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: that needed to move really quickly and forgot about that.

1479
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: Let's call you. And you showed up that day and

1480
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: for hours with and at that time I didn't have

1481
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: anything extra to probably even get y'all lunch, but I

1482
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 1: remember you and Glasses showed up and moved someone that

1483
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: meant the world to me, that means the world to me,

1484
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: Like moved them, um for hours, lifting really heavy stuff,

1485
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, and so like we any time and come again. Yeah,

1486
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: but it's like you know what, you know what it

1487
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: was too in the moment, like when we were on

1488
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: the phone and that happened and I said, listen, it

1489
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 1: is done. Let's never talk about this again. Like it

1490
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: was important to me for two reasons because I felt

1491
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 1: like one, I didn't I don't whenever you have the

1492
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: opportunity to do anything big or small for another person,

1493
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 1: like I didn't want it hanging over your head. I

1494
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: didn't want you to feel like you owed me anything.

1495
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: I definitely wasn't going to be like, oh you know

1496
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 1: what I did for him? Oh yeah, I helped him

1497
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: so much recently, like you know it wasn't for that,

1498
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: So I didn't want you to feel like like I like,

1499
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I had something over you, or

1500
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: like you had to I didn't want you to pay

1501
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: me back. I didn't want you to feel like anything

1502
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: was over your head or you were in any way

1503
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: indebt it, because it would have changed the structure of

1504
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: our relationship if that had happened. Um. But also like

1505
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: I didn't want people asking me for nothing. In fact,

1506
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I tell people that I can that

1507
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: I can help them, like I got that while we

1508
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 1: while we're talking about this, I want to I want

1509
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: to bring this up to I was talking to Charlottagne,

1510
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: right and because I always want me me and you

1511
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: both tap in like yo, like what do you think

1512
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: or like we we talk at least once a week, Yeah,

1513
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: we respect his mind or whatever, so we'll jump on

1514
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: the phone. And I hit him. I was like, yo, like,

1515
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna read to this post to you, I said,

1516
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna allow the bigger my platform gets and

1517
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: the more people I help, the more I resent people

1518
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: with bigger platforms who do nothing. And so I posted

1519
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 1: that because that's how I was feeling right, and so

1520
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: I hit Charlotte and I was like, yo, like do

1521
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 1: you ever feel like this? And he was like all

1522
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: the time. And I was like, okay, so I'm not

1523
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 1: crazy and he was like, nah, it's it's the truth.

1524
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay for sure, because I'm just like, I

1525
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: look at the minuscule role that I might play in

1526
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 1: different people's lies, or influence that I might have, or

1527
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 1: form that I might have. I don't look at like

1528
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: like you said, oh, you got the show and this,

1529
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: and I don't look at myself that way. Our perception

1530
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: of self is always different than others. So I'm looking

1531
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: at it like what more can I do with a

1532
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 1: little bit of that I do have, Like with three

1533
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 1: dollars that you did have at that time, what else

1534
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 1: can I do to help someone else that might need

1535
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: it at the time, or what else can not monetary?

1536
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: Just advice to give me some game, you know, um,

1537
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: inspire somebody, whatever the case. You have your resources that

1538
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 1: are available. So I was looking and so that's the

1539
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: conversation that I I have with him, and I was just like,

1540
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: because he does so much for so many people that

1541
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: people don't even know that he does. And I'll be

1542
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: like he has to share this feeling that I have

1543
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 1: because I'll be looking around and in the big homies

1544
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 1: always told me never count another man's pockets. Don't count

1545
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: other people's pockets, because then you're you're always be in

1546
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: competition with other people as opposed to better in yourself.

1547
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 1: And so I was, but I was like, damn, if

1548
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: I have this platform and I can help this many people,

1549
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: and you have that platform, how many people are could

1550
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: you be helping that you're not? And so now I'm

1551
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: naturally resentful towards people who I shouldn't even care what

1552
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 1: they're doing. But the more people I help and the

1553
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: more people I see there in need of inspiration of

1554
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 1: just self worth, and it's just like so many things

1555
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: like that that bothers me when I see selfishness displayed,

1556
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: or when I see extreme vanity or different things and

1557
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: different people you despise, vanity and contience. I have never

1558
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 1: met like this will be so me and had probably

1559
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 1: talk on the phone once a week. I was saying

1560
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: at least like um, and we'll just like whenever we

1561
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: get a free chance in the car, like we'll just

1562
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 1: like shoot the you know, shoot the shed or whatever,

1563
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 1: like yeah, like, okay, we got twenty minutes on this drive.

1564
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 1: Remember we were talking a couple of weeks ago, and

1565
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: you have brought up some body that you were just like,

1566
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, I I just don't think that like the

1567
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,600
Speaker 1: work ethic that it takes for like what their position requires.

1568
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, what is it really? You know,

1569
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 1: what is it really about this person that that just

1570
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 1: like gets under your skin? And You're like, have you

1571
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 1: seen how many selfies they have on Instagram? It literally

1572
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: bothers me. And You're like you can see the conceit

1573
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 1: right there. Do you see how many selfies are on

1574
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 1: their page every day? It literally bothers me because because

1575
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 1: when I'm looking at again, like I said, I'm doing

1576
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 1: ten years and make up work, So I'm looking at

1577
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: you got this platform and you have this access that

1578
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 1: people would literally die for. Yeah, Like imagine you being

1579
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 1: when you first started interning for Romeo and DJ and

1580
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: they were like, hey, you know we're gonna put you

1581
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: on full time contract that you're gonna be like that

1582
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: would have meant everything to you. Yes, right, facts when

1583
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 1: I got my position, that's it, man, I'll tell you.

1584
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you some sh I've never told anyone.

1585
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 1: I was actually saving it for my book. The last

1586
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: time my well no nip Nipsey passed was the last

1587
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: time I cried. But the first time I cried in

1588
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: years was when I got my contract at my heart, right,

1589
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm gonna tell you the truth. This is

1590
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: a real story, nobody, noise. I never even told Chuck

1591
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: that ship right. So I'm sitting on I'm literally sitting

1592
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: on the toilet taking my morning, my morning thrown, you know,

1593
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at my looking at I really didn't

1594
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: want toize, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and I'm looking at

1595
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: my phone and it said and then got it. I

1596
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: got an email from Doc Doc Winner and he's like, hey, hey,

1597
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 1: here's your contract. Look over it. You know, congratulations, let

1598
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: me know. And I read my contract and it was like,

1599
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 1: I heart media once blah blah blah blah blah, DJ

1600
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: head full time da da, here's your pay, here's your

1601
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: here's your benefit thing, here's your your bonus scale. And

1602
01:23:55,880 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm and I just start tearing up, and I was like, oh, ship, Like,

1603
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: this is what it means to feel something, because I

1604
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: don't know what that's like on a regular basis because

1605
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm just I just not invested like that in my feelings.

1606
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, damn. And what it was was,

1607
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: I think it was just the validation of the fifteen

1608
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: years or I'm sorry, the what is it, I don't know,

1609
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 1: eleven years, eleven years. It was just a validation of

1610
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: eleven years where I couldn't get in the building eleven years.

1611
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: It took me to get in the building in that way,

1612
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: and it was just like damn. And so that meant

1613
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 1: more to me than actually signing it and you know,

1614
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: doing all the hoop out announcement, all that just to

1615
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 1: get the offer. And it was like for me, it

1616
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: was one of those things where, like you said, where

1617
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: you rediscover who you are. And it helped me to

1618
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: re rediscover who I am, what my purpose is. It

1619
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: revitalized that when you was taking pictures of me in

1620
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 1: the studio, because at that obviously it diminishes over time, right,

1621
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 1: So as as as it kept diminishing over time, that

1622
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 1: rekicked it in. And so when I take those two

1623
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: moments you're taking pictures of me, make believing right in

1624
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: front of the board, in front of the mike, me

1625
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: getting a contract to offer me a full time radio

1626
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: position in my hometown. And then I look at other

1627
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: people who have platforms who take it for granted. It

1628
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 1: literally infuriates me. I get so fucking mad. I'm sorry

1629
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: to Kirk, but I get so mad, and I just

1630
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 1: be like, bro, like, do you know what this would mean?

1631
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: Is somebody else and that you and you take it

1632
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: for granted. So it's not necessarily the vanity. It's the

1633
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: entitlement that I have a problem with. And I look

1634
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 1: at vanity as another sense of entitlement, and I hate entitlement.

1635
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 1: I hate entitlement on every level. I don't like the

1636
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: people and are entitled to anything everything in life because

1637
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: life owes you nothing. And I've been there. I've been

1638
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 1: there a multiple times. I remember I remember my mom.

1639
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: I literally remember my mom asking people to let us

1640
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: spend tonight like and I was seven, you know what

1641
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I was five, Like I literally remember my

1642
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 1: mom standing there like, yeah, you know, just we need

1643
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: a couple of days. I remember that ship and so

1644
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: that when I take all of that right, and then

1645
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: I couple it up and then I look at somebody

1646
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: who's completely entitled and completely privileged in every way, and

1647
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: it's just like like I could really cut you the

1648
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: funk out right now, you know what I'm saying, especially

1649
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 1: because it's like we all have like our spiritual curriculum

1650
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: and whatever arrives us to the path that we're at.

1651
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 1: But it's like I can definitely feel you when it's

1652
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: like you're you were observing someone exist with no gratitude

1653
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: correct the moment, you know, like because I think that's

1654
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 1: that's really what it is too. And it's like when

1655
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: you have the chance to have a big platform or

1656
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: live a big life, you know, you can move out

1657
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: of the space of feeling like a feeling like you're

1658
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: lucky to be there. Like you don't have to like

1659
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: minimize yourself because you're in the room and constantly being

1660
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 1: a state of oh, thank you, thank you. But you

1661
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 1: should always and whatever you're doing, have an overall gratitude

1662
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: for being able to be who you are in that

1663
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 1: moment and live life in the way that you're living in.

1664
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: You know. I think the moments like that too. Even

1665
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: when I got last year. Last year, I got my

1666
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: mom a house, and that was like a goal that

1667
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: always that always had, Like I mean, it's not paid

1668
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 1: off and ship but we really that's a big deal.

1669
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: But that to me was like I won, especially because

1670
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: you chose to get her a house before you got

1671
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: yourself out. I still live in a studio apartment. There's

1672
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 1: no bigger than I think. I think my studio apartment

1673
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 1: is five hundred and thirty square feet or something like that,

1674
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 1: maybe six hundred if that total kitchen, the bathroom, right right, So, um,

1675
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: still right now to this day, and I think that

1676
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 1: that was just for me. That's been a goal that

1677
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 1: I've had since we've been on welfare. And I remember

1678
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:01,600
Speaker 1: my mon I'm giving because I used to stay with

1679
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 1: you know, my my wife, I call him my white family. Um,

1680
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 1: I used to stay with them. My mom would give

1681
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Speaker 1: them food stamps because I would I would stay there

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01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 1: at their house, and so my mom would give them

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01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 1: food stamps, like to make up for food that I

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01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 1: was eating at the house whatever, because they would let

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Speaker 1: me stay so that I can go to school in

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01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,600
Speaker 1: a better area than where I grew up at, I

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01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 1: mean where I was living, And so my mom would

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01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 1: give her food stamps. And then, um, I remember like

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01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: just like the struggle, like the struggle of it, and

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01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: I was just like I need my mom has never

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01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: owned anything, you know what I'm saying, And it was

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01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 1: just like, that's what I wanted. That's been a goal

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01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 1: for mine of mine for thirty years. I'm thirty five now,

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01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: so I know twenty years. That's been a goal of

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01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 1: my I want to buy my mom my house, something

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01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 1: that's ours right that she never has to worry about

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01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 1: them kicking us out again, she never has to worry

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01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: about somebody changing their mind. Oh you can't stay here anymore,

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01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 1: like this is yours. And so that's what when I

1700
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 1: finally was able to do that, and we took a

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01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: picture and under the house, and it was like, Okay,

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01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 1: I won. I could lose everything right now, and I

1703
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 1: feel like I won. I won. I beat you, Like

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01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 1: that's how I feel. They can fire me from my job,

1705
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 1: taking me off a TV, everything, I can lose everything,

1706
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: and I can go right there, right right over there

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01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 1: where she lives, and get a job at Walmart. And

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01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 1: I feel like I won because we have something that

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01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: we didn't have when I started. And so now that's

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01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 1: that's the level of gratitude I want people to have,

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01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 1: and they just don't share that, and that infuriates me,

1712
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, what I'm saying that it literally bothers me.

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01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 1: So that's kind of like where I'll be coming from

1714
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, yeah, you gotta stop letting and bother

1715
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: you because everything is perfectly designed. You know, everything is

1716
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 1: perfectly designed. And I think you being exactly who you

1717
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: are in the way that you are, You're always just

1718
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 1: going to be leaps and bounds ahead and the quality

1719
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 1: of life that you live will speak for itself. You

1720
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 1: know that makes sense? I think. I think um other

1721
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 1: thing too that's big that I'm big on at this

1722
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 1: point is manifestation and kind of a gripe that I

1723
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 1: used to have coming too, coming to groups with where

1724
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 1: we're like where we are spiritually at this point and tune.

1725
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 1: Like you said, you love yourself. That's something that's lacking

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01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 1: in our community. And I feel like, but I never

1727
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 1: even heard of where manifestation I was an adult. I

1728
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 1: never even knew what a law of attraction was until

1729
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 1: I was a full blown adult. Because that's not prevalent

1730
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 1: in our community. No one's teaching these things, no one's

1731
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: talking about it. It's just about survive, survives survive. And

1732
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: so now that I have this opportunity to like delve

1733
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 1: into spirituality and gross and doing the work on yourself

1734
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: and all this other kind of stuff. It's like, damn,

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01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm kind of resentful to the fact that that's not

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01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:45,759
Speaker 1: available to me where I'm so now that's another engine

1737
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 1: in my back to like get this message out to

1738
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 1: people that look like me and look like us and

1739
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 1: comfort where we come from, to tell them the truth.

1740
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 1: And the truth is this stuff is real. You know,

1741
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 1: self worth is a thing. If you don't value yourself,

1742
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 1: you're ever going to be anything, because that's where it

1743
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 1: starts with. Manifestation is a real thing. And so those

1744
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: are the types of things that I'm trying to like,

1745
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: that's that's like my underlying agenda, and so what I

1746
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: it's an analogy. We're using the music in the music industry,

1747
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 1: me and the homies, just like I don't care why

1748
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 1: you come in the room. If you come in the

1749
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 1: room because I'm playing your favorite record. Cool, if you

1750
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 1: listen to me on the radio and you think I'm funny.

1751
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 1: Cool if you like the witty jokes I get off

1752
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: on Instagram and that's why you work with me. Cool

1753
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 1: if you like if you like the television stuff that

1754
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 1: I do, come in the room, and once I got

1755
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 1: you in the room, I'm gonna say something real. I'm

1756
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 1: gonna provide you with something that you can leave with

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01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 1: and better yourself with. So that's kind of like to

1758
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 1: get in the room method that I'm using trying to

1759
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 1: that's the underlying undertone of my agenda that it's really

1760
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: the Oprah effect. Yeah, yeah, I love that. And I

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01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,600
Speaker 1: mean what you just described is exactly like why I

1762
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 1: feel I was led to like start Carnel Bliss just

1763
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 1: even do this podcast, you know, because I've realized, like

1764
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 1: the lessons, the gems, you know, they're not to be hoarded.

1765
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 1: Your testimony isn't to be hoarded, not to just keep

1766
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 1: under wraps for yourself. Like you have to share and

1767
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 1: that completes the circle. Like if you are gifted in

1768
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 1: this life to become self aware, to heal yourself, to

1769
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 1: figure out who you are, to to accept who you are,

1770
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 1: it is part of your destiny to also share that

1771
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 1: with other people. You have to complete your life circle.

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01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 1: You don't just get to keep it for yourself and

1773
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 1: reap all the benefits, you know. I think last thing

1774
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 1: too is um being able to being able to accept

1775
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: the blessings is that's something that I've I've worked on

1776
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 1: and I just took my literally i've been I'm thirty five.

1777
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,719
Speaker 1: I took my first vacation ever last year. This year,

1778
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 1: this year, I went to Anguilla with Charlemagne. Right, that's

1779
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 1: literally the I've never taken a vacation in my life.

1780
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 1: And I was just like, and it was way more

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01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 1: expensive than I'm not rich, so it's so expensive. By

1782
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: the way, every plate is forty like and it's anyway,

1783
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:08,560
Speaker 1: long story short, it was just like, it ate me

1784
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 1: up right because I'm not I'm not balling. I got

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01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 1: a regular job, Like, I'm not a celebrity, I'm not

1786
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 1: none of that. So it's just like, but Charlette, Ma've

1787
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 1: been trying to get me to do it for a

1788
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 1: couple of years. Like I'm telling you, my brother, you

1789
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 1: gotta go, you gotta do it, you gotta you gotta

1790
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 1: feel that ship, you gotta yeah, yeah, all that right,

1791
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 1: he's doing it. He could write the marketing campaign for them.

1792
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 1: So I finally was like, all right, I'm gonna do

1793
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: it no matter what it costs. And that took a

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01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,679
Speaker 1: lot out of me, not only financially, but it took

1795
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 1: a lot out of me mentally, because every dollar I

1796
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 1: spend makes sense in my mind. I don't spend money

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01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 1: at all on nothing. I don't buy clothes, I don't

1798
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 1: buy I don't buy stuff. I'm not a consumer because

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01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm always in survival, survival mode, going back to my childhood.

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01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 1: So I think that's a big part of it too.

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01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 1: Once you get to a place where there are blessings,

1802
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 1: you have to be willing to accept the blessings and

1803
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,600
Speaker 1: that and that's probably like what this next leg of

1804
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 1: your journey is. It's like like deep programming, unlearned all

1805
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: the ways in which you you used to see yourself,

1806
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 1: see money, see emotions. You know, it's kind of doing

1807
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 1: the dance of just slowly unbraiding things that don't serve

1808
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 1: you anymore. No, I think that's the truth. We gotta

1809
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 1: get out of here. I love you to the moon

1810
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 1: and back. You're one of my favorite humans. Um. I'm

1811
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 1: just really that you're in my life, and I just

1812
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 1: completely celebrate you. I'm amazed and in full admiration and

1813
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 1: awe of all that you have become and all that

1814
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 1: you are becoming and continue to do. And you're just

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Speaker 1: a light man and you're you're so supremely talented, and

1816
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 1: you're so acted and so beloved, and you do so

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01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 1: much for so many people, and thank you. I'm just

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01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 1: grateful for your life. Thank you same. You know I

1819
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: feel the same way. I love you too. Are you

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Speaker 1: E D D J head. All Right, until next time, y'all, peace, big,

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening to this episode of The Dropping

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Speaker 1: Gym's podcast. This show is executive produced by Adrian Scott

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01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 1: and me Debbie Brown. Our theme music was created by

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01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: producer Jay One, and the poem that you heard at

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01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, well, that was created especially

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Speaker 1: for us by award winning poet and I'm Boka four.

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Speaker 1: If you have a quick moment right now, please hit

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Speaker 1: subscribe on the show and if you like what you heard,

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