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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. Buck, you tell me

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Speaker 1: that I'm getting criticized for saying that JFK is handsome.

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Speaker 1: I never Some of the things that people come at

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Speaker 1: me for are opinions that I never would have thought

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Speaker 1: that people would be upset about.

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Speaker 2: Can I just point out, it's not that you're talking

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Speaker 2: about it, which maybe people would you know that we're

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Speaker 2: even discussing it. It's that you're so wrong, Clay, that

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Speaker 2: that people are agreeing with me that JFK not really

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Speaker 2: that handsome overrated in handsome overrated handsomeness, He's no Mitt Romney.

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Speaker 1: Very good, very good looking man. He looks fake, which

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Speaker 1: probably is appropriate, but I mean he looks like the

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Speaker 1: guy somebody described him as the guy who looks like

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Speaker 1: he should be inside of the fake photo. For we're

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Speaker 1: very secure.

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Speaker 2: Guys, and so we get you know, who's the handsomest

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Speaker 2: male politician on the scene right now?

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Speaker 1: Clay? You know, oh, that's an interesting question. Best looking

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Speaker 1: man right now currently holding political office? Well, Mitt Romney

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Speaker 1: still does, right. I mean, for his age, Trump is

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Speaker 1: very handsome. That's it is true for his age, he's

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Speaker 1: very handsome for an eight nearly eighty year old man.

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Speaker 1: Trump is handsome. I would say, probably best looking man

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Speaker 1: in politics right now. You're really thinking about, well, get

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get roasted if I picked the wrong person.

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Speaker 1: So obviously youth factors in here. So being younger is

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Speaker 1: going to in general in general make you more attractive.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Some people like to get older. Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe i'd probably go Senator Josh Hawley. I think he's

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Speaker 1: probably the best looking male politician right now.

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Speaker 2: Well what I would not have get? Look, we gotta

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Speaker 2: get jo Allis on the show. Give him his prize.

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Speaker 1: I Well, I'm thinking who else would you go with?

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's in good shape, relatively young guy, tall, dark, handsome.

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Speaker 1: I think i'd have to go Senator Hawley. Oh, media,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna have fun with this one headline Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: analyzes attractiveness of men. Well, evidently I can't be trusted

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Speaker 1: if I'm saying JFK is good looking? Jay, you disagree

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Speaker 1: with this. JFK is the most attractive American president ever.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna go like Millard Fillmore. You're just gonna throw

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Speaker 1: thro throw down on me. I mean i'd have to

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Speaker 1: great great uh great cheek bones. I think it's JFK.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a tough, tough second, right now,

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Speaker 1: Reagan was good looking older, A lot of people, I'm

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Speaker 1: a lot of people would argue Barack Obama's good looking,

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Speaker 1: just throwing that out there back Obama wasn't good I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna dispute that decent looking guy. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is where Nancy was it Nancy yesterday who got so

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Speaker 1: mad about our Kamala Harris discussion. Being good looking is

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Speaker 1: an incredible asset in the television era as it pertains

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Speaker 1: to politicians, male or female. I mean, there's a reason

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Speaker 1: like Ris Christy, William Howard Taft would have a harder

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Speaker 1: time now. Yeah he did back in the day. Just

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Speaker 1: Chris Christie is never going to get elected president because

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Speaker 1: he weighs three highty pounds and he could be right

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Speaker 1: on everything. But there are a lot of people that

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Speaker 1: are just gonna be like, I'm sorry to Chris Christy,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to vote for a super fat guy

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Speaker 1: to be president.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I gotta about Kamala or I'm gonna start

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Speaker 2: getting blamed. I'm gonna start getting the tell Clay, why

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Speaker 2: am I going to tell Clay?

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Speaker 1: All right? So, so, JFK is the best looking president ever.

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Speaker 1: Everyone who disagrees is wrong, Josh Holly is the best

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Speaker 1: looking current politician. Everyone who disagrees is wrong. And I'll

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Speaker 1: just go ahead and toss it out there. Bill Malugin

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Speaker 1: is the best looking man in television right now. News

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Speaker 1: of the Day, Clay. Kamala Harris. Yes, Kamala Harris, best

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Speaker 1: looking black Indian woman to ever run for president ever.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying everything. Not a lot of competition, not a

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Speaker 1: lot of competition for her, not a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of Well to stop laying the eights, then all the

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Speaker 2: eights get lit at the same time.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you this is what happened. I saw

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Speaker 1: in that Kamala Harris addressed this morning the Teachers Union,

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Speaker 1: To me, Kamala Harris has not come up with anything

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Speaker 1: unique that is a way to attack Trump. I've watched

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Speaker 1: against Trump for the last eight years, except I don't

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Speaker 1: even think as well as Biden did, because Biden's democracy

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Speaker 1: thing did land. I think hers feels even worse than his.

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Speaker 1: This is a structural weakness of the campaign as I

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Speaker 1: see it. Uh, the the why of the campaign, right,

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Speaker 1: the why of twenty twenty, as we have discussed, is

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Speaker 1: the whole thing, right, that was the campaign. And then

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Speaker 1: the why of twenty twenty two the midterms was defense

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Speaker 1: of democracy. Because of January sixth, I think the defensive

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Speaker 1: democracy thing has worn itself out. Although Biden made a

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Speaker 1: here here we go, do we play cut one?

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Speaker 3: Yet?

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Speaker 1: This is Biden's whole pitch on his way out. This

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Speaker 1: is cut one from his address last night. Play it.

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Speaker 3: I'm speaking tonight from behind the resolute tesk in the

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Speaker 3: Oval Office, this sacred space. I'm surrounded by portraits extraordinary

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Speaker 3: American presidents. Thomas Jefferson wrote the Immortal Words and Kai

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Speaker 3: de Nation, George Washington, who showed us presidents are not kings.

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Speaker 3: Abraham Lincoln, who implored us to reject malice, Franklin Rosevel,

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Speaker 3: who inspired us to reject fear.

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Speaker 1: I reviewed this office, love.

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Speaker 3: My country more. It's been the honor of my life

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Speaker 3: to serve as your president. But in the defensive democracy,

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Speaker 3: which is a stake I think is more important than

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Speaker 3: any title.

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Speaker 2: The defense of democracy. That is still the primary tagline

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Speaker 2: for Democrats.

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Speaker 1: That is still the why. This is still the why

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Speaker 1: should we vote for you? Answer? They give Clay.

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Speaker 2: They just replaced by choice, not by health, their candidate

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Speaker 2: who got fourteen million votes in the primary a few

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Speaker 2: weeks before the election, because the party elders and power

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Speaker 2: players and donors said so beyond that, Donald Trump just

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Speaker 2: took a bullet through the ear trying to run for

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Speaker 2: the next presidential administration in this country. The notion of

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Speaker 2: Now when Democrats say it, it's just getting flimsy.

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Speaker 1: You can't make the argument. And I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to become increasingly clear that as Kamala Harris tries to

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Speaker 1: make that argument, it's not going to land because she

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Speaker 1: didn't get a single vote to be the nominee for Democrats,

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Speaker 1: and so I think she's gonna pivot even more aggressively

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Speaker 1: to abortion. And that was a big part of her

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Speaker 1: I'm not I understand that the Teachers' Union, which failed

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Speaker 1: She's refused to acknowledge it. But for Kamala Harris to

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Speaker 1: kids is a little bit of an incongruous moment to me. Again,

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Speaker 1: whatever opinion you want on abortion and be a teacher,

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Speaker 1: I'm not disputing that. But for your job to be

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Speaker 1: I think that strikes a lot of people as a

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Speaker 1: discordant tone. Why also, when you talk about rights, you'll

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Speaker 1: talk about the right to free speech to say what

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Speaker 1: do the thing. I'll talk about the right to bear arms,

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Speaker 1: or even make it more simple, what I like, the

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Speaker 1: right to have guns. I like my right to have

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Speaker 1: guns as an American. Why do I say the right

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Speaker 1: to choose? Just say the right to abortion. That's really

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Speaker 1: what this is all about for the Democrats. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it is the single fundamental plank in the platform that

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Speaker 1: they will never change and is really, I think the

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Speaker 1: one place where there's pretty much ideological conformity all across

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Speaker 1: the entire Democrat Party. You must be in favor of

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Speaker 1: un limited, unrestricted abortion, or else you're not really a Democrat.

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Speaker 1: You're not a Democrat in good standing. But I just

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Speaker 1: think it's it's such a straightforward dodge to just say

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Speaker 1: what they want. Kamala Harris thinks that there should be

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Speaker 1: think there's about a million abortions a year something like

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Speaker 1: that in the country. She thinks that that number, she

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Speaker 1: go up. Yeah, And she wants people to have as

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Speaker 1: many abortions as they want, and she wants the taxpayer

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Speaker 1: to fund it. And that is what the Democratic Party believes. Okay,

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Speaker 1: why can't they just say that? I mean, I know why,

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Speaker 1: but you know, they should have to just say that

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Speaker 1: instead of I believe in women's autonomy and the fundamental

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Speaker 1: I think Trump has handled this well in whatever the

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Speaker 1: next debate is right now, I believe it's ABC September tenth.

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Speaker 1: The way that questions conveyed matters a lot. Trump's position,

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Speaker 1: easy to explain. He says that should be left to

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Speaker 1: role as it pertains to abortion. That's a really easy

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Speaker 1: Trump's perspective. You know, you can disagree with it, you

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Speaker 1: could argue against it. Kamala's perspective here should be conveyed

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Speaker 1: way up to the ninth month. Should that be federal law.

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Speaker 1: She does believe that. That's pretty radical, and the way

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Speaker 1: Democrat position has become radical. Remember Bill Clinton's perspective all

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Speaker 1: the way back in ninety two was that abortion should

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Speaker 1: be safe, legal, and rare those that retired. That was

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Speaker 1: trying to do something very different. But now we're all

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Speaker 1: the way up to nine month abortion, and most people

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Speaker 1: believe if you look at the data, most people believe

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Speaker 1: that there should be a line drawn somewhere around the

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Speaker 1: first trimester. That's huge. Majorities of the American public obviously

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Speaker 1: different places in the first trimester. Very small numbers support

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Speaker 1: second trimester abortions. Almost no one supports third trimester abortions.

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Speaker 1: That there are.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of things that states make decisions

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Speaker 2: about and and they're very they're they're extreme in the

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Speaker 2: sense that you know, I mean, right now, I could

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Speaker 2: walk out of my house with you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I've I've long story. I actually could get a concealed

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Speaker 2: carry perman. Actually haven't gone to the office yet, but

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Speaker 2: I could go walk out of the house with a

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Speaker 2: loaded pistol in my in my belt clay.

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Speaker 1: Totally legal.

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Speaker 2: I'm an I'm a I'm a Florida guy. No problem,

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Speaker 2: as long as it's obviously concealed. If I try that

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Speaker 2: at the same gun me Buck Sexton in New York

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Speaker 2: City arrested facing mandatory prison. Okay, States make a lot

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Speaker 2: with that. And that is the federalist system that we have.

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Speaker 2: And that is what Trump is saying about abortion now,

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Speaker 2: and we it is going to take time for people

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Speaker 1: Where did all eight bullets go?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is a small This is what

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Speaker 2: a lot of them don't want to admit that Trump

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Speaker 2: was shot. So a shrapnel answer from Christopher Ray gives

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Speaker 2: them a tiny little wiggle room that allows them to

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Speaker 2: start to say that something that did happen based on

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Speaker 2: what we've seen, all the evidence of Trump getting clipped

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Speaker 2: by this bullet may not have happened. So why does

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Speaker 2: Christopher Ray, who is supposedly so careful in answering all

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Speaker 2: these questions, why does he use the phrase shrapnel? What

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Speaker 2: could he be thinking of in your mind that would

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Speaker 2: in any way justify that answer.

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Speaker 1: So I.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to think about this, and again I

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Speaker 2: think it is because there's this effort to say, like, well,

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Speaker 2: maybe Trump wasn't really Even Newsweek actually had a story

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Speaker 2: today like maybe.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. The headline is Trump may not

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Speaker 1: have been shot, Like this is spreading based on his answer,

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Speaker 1: and to say that you got hit with shrapnel not

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Speaker 1: you know, tell somebody who was near an ied blast,

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Speaker 1: they got hit with shrapnel, not the explosive Like it's

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Speaker 1: that makes no sense. It's a distinction without a difference

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Speaker 1: to arg extent. I mean a couple things.

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Speaker 2: I mean just just to you know, to make sure

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Speaker 2: that I'm explaining this wreck and all of you already

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Speaker 2: probably know this anyway. So the diameter of a five

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Speaker 2: to five six and a twenty two are very close,

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Speaker 2: But the five five six round that he was hit

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Speaker 2: with is a It is bigger, and it has much

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Speaker 2: more oomph behind it, so it's gonna go thirty three

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Speaker 2: thousand feet a second plus instead of like twelve hundred

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Speaker 2: or so feet a second for like a twenty two

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Speaker 2: long rifle. So it's the most it's pretty much the

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Speaker 2: most common rifle round I think you'll find in use

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Speaker 2: in the entire world. So just start start with that,

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Speaker 2: and then the shrapnel issue. I think that he's saying

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Speaker 2: that maybe a bull the bullet like hit something and

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Speaker 2: caused a piece of something to hit the president, right,

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Speaker 2: So it's like he hit the bullet, hit the podium,

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Speaker 2: and a piece of the podium hit his ear. I

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Speaker 2: do not see that as possible here at all, I

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Speaker 2: don't understand.

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Speaker 1: What the evidence. You know, we can see the bullet

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Speaker 1: in the photo that even the New York Times took,

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Speaker 1: you know, when they slowed it down, and then we

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Speaker 1: have Trump immediately grab his ear as it's buzzing past

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Speaker 1: like so just to kind of point out the evidence

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Speaker 1: that we have and the.

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Speaker 2: Other the only other option would be if they thought

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Speaker 2: the bullet hit something skipped and a piece of it

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Speaker 2: hit his ear.

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Speaker 1: But no way, So it doesn't make I don't know

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Speaker 1: it does. Let me know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, one of the you know, two

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Speaker 2: million gun experts we have listened to right now, let

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Speaker 2: us know if we're missing something on this. But why

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Speaker 2: the FBI director would say that Trump got hit with

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Speaker 2: shrapnel when there were five five six rounds flying around

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Speaker 2: his head. You know, even if it if it did,

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Speaker 2: if it was a skip round, we'll call them rabbit rounds. Again,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that happened. That's still a bullet, like yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's it. Actually, you know, there are ways

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Speaker 2: that they'll you can, at sort of higher levels of tactics,

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Speaker 2: they can shoot in front of an obstacle because the

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Speaker 2: bullet will actually skip off the ground and travel at

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Speaker 2: about shin level. You can imagine why that could be

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Speaker 2: helpful if people are behind a car. And the thing

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Speaker 2: about that is that's still a bullet. So I don't

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Speaker 2: know why he's saying shrapnel. I don't know why he

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Speaker 2: would say that. So I got nothing for you other

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Speaker 2: than it feels like there's this effort, because there was

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Speaker 2: in the very beginning too not to say that Trump

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Speaker 2: was shot, and now to say, well, he was probably shot,

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Speaker 2: but maybe it wasn't really getting shot, it was something else.

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Speaker 2: The president was shot, everybody like, well, I don't know

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Speaker 2: why we're and why the FBHI director has.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's he opened the door to this. And again

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Speaker 1: I think it's really he's so careful to say nothing,

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Speaker 1: to be this inarticulate. In some way, it's either intentional

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Speaker 1: on his part or in the midst of what was

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Speaker 1: generally a very crisp and not revelatory testimony, he somehow

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Speaker 1: slipped up here. I just it leads to more of

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Speaker 1: these conspiracy theories out there that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: on the left think the whole thing was staged. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's what they're trying to argue, and so anything other

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Speaker 1: than the president was shot in the ear. This is

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Speaker 1: what happened, like it aids that that that continued conspiracy theory. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, we got like VIP listener Kyle

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Speaker 2: Others writing into He's saying a five five six is

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Speaker 2: basically a twenty two caliber. I said, it's the same diameter,

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Speaker 2: different propellant.

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Speaker 1: You know, is there more specifical nerd people are gonna

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Speaker 1: I knew this is gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: That's why I don't want to make it. You think

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Speaker 2: it blows up our inbox when you ask who the

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Speaker 2: handsomest politician is. Call a firearms a magazine for a firearm,

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Speaker 2: a clip, you will You'll never hear the end of it,

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Speaker 2: never hear the end of it. For the next six months.

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Speaker 2: You'll be getting random emails about it. So because a

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Speaker 2: clip technically has to actually clip in, so it is

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Speaker 2: different than a magazine, which is fed and we know, we.

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Speaker 1: Know, we get it anyway, good luck, boss. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: that story is out there though, and I do think

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Speaker 1: all of you need to be aware of it because

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Speaker 1: it is spreading. And as Buck mentioned, Newsweek now has

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Speaker 1: a headline saying maybe Trump wasn't shot at all. That's

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Speaker 1: their headline. It's embarrassing, but there're gonna be others.

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Speaker 2: That follow right, Why would that be something that anybody

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Speaker 2: would be thinking about at this point when we should

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Speaker 2: all just be thanking God that Trump is finding alive

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Speaker 2: because they can't allow the narrative to be what we

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Speaker 2: saw on stage with our own eyes, which is this

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Speaker 2: from the stage.

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Speaker 1: Like they know how powerful the pictures are and the

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Speaker 3: To ban books.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Oh wow, these extremists also attack the

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Speaker 1: having to get lectured by Kamala Harris all the time.

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Speaker 2: So I just want everyone to be prepared for that.

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Speaker 2: I also find it particularly loathsome that she perpetuates this

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Speaker 2: lie of we want to ban books if you don't

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Speaker 2: want to show oh, you know, Playboy magazine and something

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Speaker 2: even you know, some magazines are far more risque than

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Speaker 2: Playboy to a ten year old. That doesn't mean you're

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Speaker 2: banning Playboy. Yeah, it just means you're not a weirdo

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Speaker 2: who wants to show it to ten year olds. The

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Speaker 2: books that they have on all of it. It's always

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Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis has shown these books on TV and they

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Speaker 1: have to blur them and they're in libraries for third graders.

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Speaker 1: The book band think, can we just there's something else

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Speaker 1: I want to get to the protests and DC Clay

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Speaker 1: we mentioned that, but just first on the book band thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of things that you know, I

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Speaker 1: think the two things that I like love the most

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Speaker 1: outside of my family, the people who matter to me

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Speaker 1: are books and dogs. Like the notion that we want

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Speaker 1: to ban books is just such a slander. I think

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Speaker 1: Republicans have done a really bad job responding to this

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Speaker 1: because it gets grabbed and run with, and the analogy

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Speaker 1: I've made, I would just continue to argue, I haven't

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Speaker 1: even seen a Republican ever make this analogy, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's a really poor job of communicating. Movies aren't banned,

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Speaker 1: but there are age appropriate guidelines for how old you

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Speaker 1: should be to go see a movie. Right what is

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Speaker 1: Twister is probably PG? Thirteen, Right, Twister's probably the most

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Speaker 1: popular movie that's out here right now. You might not

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Speaker 1: want to take your five year old to go see Twister.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that Twister is banned, and maybe you

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Speaker 1: do want to take I don't know, I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: that movie. But every kid is different, and what's age

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Speaker 1: appropriate for one kid might not be for another. We

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Speaker 1: talked about on this program, Buck that you and I

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Speaker 1: used to try to sneak into our rated movies, and

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Speaker 1: that sometimes you could go see a violent movie when

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Speaker 1: we were kids, but you might not have gotten to

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Speaker 1: go see Basic Instinct, for instance, which was more of

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Speaker 1: a sex related thriller than it was like Arnold Schwarzenegger

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Speaker 1: running around with a gun mowing people down right, There

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Speaker 1: was a difference. Parents have always made choices about what

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Speaker 1: is age appropriate for their children to be exposed to.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean the book's banned, and so I just

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Speaker 1: think Republicans have done a really bad job here. It's

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Speaker 1: not banning. The movies aren't banned. There's PG, there's G,

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Speaker 1: there's PG thirteen, there's R, there's X. You're not going

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Speaker 1: to show an X rated movie to an eight year old.

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Speaker 1: Why would you allow an eight year old inside of

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Speaker 1: a public school to see an R rated or potentially

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Speaker 1: X rated book. You just shouldn't allow it.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's such a lie. I don't know the

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Speaker 2: fact that they keep saying it. I even remember I

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Speaker 2: drove past a while ago in New York City the

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Speaker 2: Schwartzman Library, which is the giant New York public It's oh,

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Speaker 2: it's where the Ghostbusters movie starts.

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Speaker 1: The original Ghostbuster is that library.

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Speaker 2: It's a giant's actually beautiful, and it's where Bryant Park

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Speaker 2: is and and they had some some banner up at

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Speaker 2: the library about, you know, not banning books or whatever.

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Speaker 2: It's just meant to be a slap at conservatives. But

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Speaker 2: we're not banned any books. So they're living in this

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Speaker 2: fantasy land of we're telling you that books. They're the

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Speaker 2: ones that actually want to rewrite Shakespeare because it's offensive.

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Speaker 2: They're the ones that want to change great works of

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Speaker 2: literature because it has words in it that are racist

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Speaker 2: and you can't even read the words, so it's also dishonest.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, Kamala Air, she'll say anything. She has absolutely

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Speaker 2: no there's no ethics. And how she's gonna run this campaign,

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Speaker 2: we all know that. But what's interesting, though, is what

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Speaker 2: they're going to do about the far left and how

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Speaker 2: much the far left is invested in the anti Israel narrative.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday as net Yahoo spoke. By the way, he gave

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Speaker 2: a great speech. I heard the whole thing, listened the

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Speaker 2: whole thing right as we got off the air, and

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Speaker 2: I had our friend to David Ifoon. If you go

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Speaker 2: on YouTube, I interviewed David there at the Buck Brief

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Speaker 2: so you can check that out on YouTube. He gave

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Speaker 2: a sort of in depth analysis of it. It was

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Speaker 2: a great speech, though Clay did very well. Thousands of

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Speaker 2: really like, oh, Hamas lunatics. I know they say they're

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Speaker 2: pro Palestinian, but these people all are rooting for Hamas

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Speaker 2: to continue its resistance quote unquote against Israel. They were

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Speaker 2: light they lit the American flag on fire in DC.

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Speaker 2: These are Americans. Yeah, they're lighting the American flag on

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Speaker 2: fire because they're so concerned about what's happening in Gaza

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Speaker 2: right now. And they had things like these are messages,

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Speaker 2: this is from the Washington Post. They spray painted the

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Speaker 2: Christopher Columbus Fountain.

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Speaker 1: What have we said, Clay? This is all a racial

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Speaker 1: conflict in their minds. That's why Columbus is Columbus equals Zionism.

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Speaker 1: How is that possible? Christopher Columbus was a fifteenth and

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Speaker 1: early sixteenth century explorer. Oh, he's a white dude who

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Speaker 1: did things to brown people a long time ago. That

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Speaker 1: is bad.

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Speaker 2: Therefore, which is we could talk about that another day. Therefore,

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Speaker 2: it's the same thing as Israel and Gaza in their minds. Right,

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Speaker 2: they spray painted on the Christopher Columbus Fountain, free Gaza

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Speaker 2: and all Zionists are bastards.

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Speaker 1: This is These are all Kamala voters. But Kamala criticized them. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Kamala eventually, after over a day this morning put out

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Speaker 1: a statement and it's pretty aggressive. To her credit. It

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Speaker 1: says that it's unacceptable to tear down American flags and

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Speaker 1: burn them, and it is unacceptable to attack police officers

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Speaker 1: as was occurring. For those of you who don't know,

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Speaker 1: Washington d C. Well within sight distance of the capital,

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Speaker 1: there's an area called Union Station. And I haven't been

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Speaker 1: in Union Station in years, Buck, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you have either, but it's the train terminal for Washington

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Speaker 1: d C. Used to be very nice, like at one

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Speaker 1: point in time in the late nineties early two thousands,

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Speaker 1: it was a place that you would go to dinner.

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Speaker 1: There's a movie theater there. That's where we would go

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Speaker 1: watch movies when I was a kid. When I was

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Speaker 1: at the CIA, I dated a girl, a woman, young

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Speaker 1: woman who had her there. They would rent out. She

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Speaker 1: had prom at Union Station, you know, a decade before

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Speaker 1: I met her. It's a beautiful building. I mean it

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Speaker 1: is again where you would take the Amtrak, where you

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Speaker 1: would take the local commuter rails to be able to

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Speaker 1: come into d C. Very walkable from the Capitol. And

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Speaker 1: it was taken over by anti Israel, pro Palestine and

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Speaker 1: even pro Hamas protesters. They yanked down the three American

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Speaker 1: flags on the flagpole outside, they burned them, and they

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Speaker 1: raised the flags of Palestine. The fact that this could

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Speaker 1: even occur in Washington, d C. On the day, of course,

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Speaker 1: and this is why it's even more significant. When Benjamin

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Speaker 1: Netanyaho is speaking and saying we're trying to stand against

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Speaker 1: the forces of evil who attacked us on October seventh,

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Speaker 1: I thought an incredible speech that he delivered to Congress,

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Speaker 1: which fifty Democrats, including Kamala Harris, skipped because they didn't

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Speaker 1: want to be there. Now, Kamala Harris came back and said,

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Speaker 1: this is unacceptable, but there is a very strong anti

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Speaker 1: Semitic element that has taken over the left wing of

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. And all the time, buck when we

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Speaker 1: hear anything about this related to Charlottesville or anti semitism

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Speaker 1: on the right, you have a demand that would always

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Speaker 1: be condemned. It's way more powerful, I would say, on

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Speaker 1: the left to be anti semitic right now than it

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Speaker 1: is on the right. Would you agree with that, that

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Speaker 1: that is even more ascendant in the left right now

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Speaker 1: than it is in the right should be condemned on

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Speaker 1: both sides of the political equation. But it's certainly growing

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Speaker 1: on the left way more significantly than on the right.

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Speaker 1: It's a ten to one issue in terms of scale.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a massive, you know, it's a order of

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Speaker 1: magnitudes kind of difference between left and right when it

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Speaker 1: comes to true anti semitism. And I just think it's

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Speaker 1: so interesting that went after the Columbus statue, as we've

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Speaker 1: said all along in this country, because there's such a

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Speaker 1: minimal understanding of Middle East history and politics anyway that

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have people out there protesting who couldn't

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Speaker 1: who could not name, I can assure you, and actually

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Speaker 1: this would be this would be fun and we could

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Speaker 1: maybe when producer Ali gets back, because she can infiltrate

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Speaker 1: these communists. She's she's so right wing, but they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: know it. You wouldn't look at her and think she's

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Speaker 1: a right wing.

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Speaker 2: So she could be our communist infiltrator and just go

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Speaker 2: and ask them questions like name name two cities in

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Speaker 2: the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, Like give me

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Speaker 2: two cities, see what you can come up with. They

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Speaker 2: have no idea, they don't know anything. They just to

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Speaker 2: my initial point to art what we've been saying now

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Speaker 2: for many months. They see it as white people appressing

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Speaker 2: brown people. That is Israel, Palestine. It is a George,

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Speaker 2: it is foreign George Floyd two point zero movement, if

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Speaker 2: you will. That's what's going on. It's like the It's

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Speaker 2: b LM overseas. It makes no sense, But it doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter that it makes sense. It's about the emotions that

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Speaker 2: it evokes for left wing communists and people who are

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Speaker 2: basically racial Marxists, and in the protests that they were doing,

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Speaker 2: it's interesting to me that Kamala is criticizing them because

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Speaker 2: she knows that she has an election that she's trying

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Speaker 2: to win. Here, I'm telling she wouldn't have criticized them

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Speaker 2: six months ago. This is all about. This is what

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Speaker 2: Democrats always do. They get close to the election and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden they start trying to seem a

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Speaker 2: little less crazy and they're going to be a little

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Speaker 2: less pandering to the base. Because Kamala Harris's core voters,

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Speaker 2: they're all pro Palestinian in their proclivities. But she does

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Speaker 2: want some of the Democrat power players to come over

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Speaker 2: to her side now, and that means that she can't

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Speaker 2: be a raging anti semi.

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Speaker 1: It is still interesting and worthy of contemplation. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: that long ago till January sixth happened. What's going to

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Speaker 1: happen to these individuals who attacked police officers and burned

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Speaker 1: American flags? Remember, and I saw SANEA Perino make this

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Speaker 1: case on Fox News, and I think it's a good one.

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Speaker 1: It's legal to burn the American flag has to be

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Speaker 1: your American flag. You aren't allowed to take someone else's possession,

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Speaker 1: pull it down off of the flagpole and burn it.

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Speaker 1: That is a crime. Clay, First Amendment, Clay. Why is

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Speaker 1: it illegal to burn a Pride flag? Why is it illegal.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it is to do it, to do

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Speaker 2: a doughnut on the street in your car over a

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Speaker 2: Pride mural on the ground. Why can you burn the

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Speaker 2: American flag but you can't burn a Pride flag.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering why we've decided that this is the country

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Speaker 1: that we live in, or rather that we allow this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think legally that's correct, but they are prosecuting

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Speaker 1: as a hate crime. Right. I think if it went

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Speaker 1: to this, I think legally is whatever the law is,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think, I think if it

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Speaker 1: is what the court they would have to say. I

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Speaker 1: think and I hope that you have a First Amendment

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Speaker 1: right to burn a Pride flag, just like you have

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Speaker 1: a First Amendment right to burn a United States flag.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think you understand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Totaler being prosecuted all over the country for hate crimes

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Speaker 2: against the trans inclusive and particular Pride flag, including people.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was this kid.

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Speaker 2: I think it was actually in Florida. I gotta check

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Speaker 2: where this was. It's happened a few times where people

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Speaker 2: have like screeched their tires over a Pride mural and

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Speaker 2: that's a felony hate crimes. I talked about this one

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Speaker 2: of the days that you were out. I think about

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Speaker 2: how crazy this whole idea is. First of all, the

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Speaker 2: idea that you would paint an important symbol on the road,

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Speaker 2: I just it's crazy to me, right, Like whatever your

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Speaker 2: important symbol is, Yes, the road is designed to be

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Speaker 2: driven on. And if they urinate on it, like, this

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Speaker 2: is what's going to happen, Like rats are going to

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Speaker 2: get crushed on top of it and turn into mush

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Speaker 2: Like that's a street.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And so the idea that you would prosecute someone

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Speaker 1: for tire mark on an object on a street is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Banana Land republished stuff.

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Speaker 2: It just tells you what this tells you. And Kamala

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Speaker 2: is absolutely an enforcer of this orthodoxy. The trans Lgbtqia

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Speaker 2: agenda is an official state religion for the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 2: Now they will use state power to trample on fundamental

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Speaker 2: rights in support of the trans Lgbtqia plus agenda. They

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Speaker 2: would rather pledge allegiance to the gay Pride flag than

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Speaker 2: the United States flag on much of the left wing

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Speaker 2: in this country, Like if you asked them to choose it,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't even be a difficult choice. But to your point,

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Speaker 2: from a process, procedure, principle perspective, that's a lot of peace.

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Speaker 2: There is no way I believe that the Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: would distinguish between a hate crime for burning the United

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Speaker 2: States flag versus the Pride flag. I think both would

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Speaker 2: be disallowed. But that's an important case that somebody should challenge. Soda,

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Speaker 2: Mayor Kagan and the Tangi Brown Jackson would all dissent

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Speaker 2: in that case and say that it's hate and hate

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Speaker 2: has no place in America except if you hate like

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Speaker 2: conservative Christians, you know who.

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Speaker 1: That's totally accept stuff that's bad. Jerry Paget enlisted in

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Speaker 1: the US Navy, deployed multiple times to Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Speaker 1: While on patrol in Afghanistan, Jerry was injured by an

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Speaker 1: we're grateful he's alive today. We thank him for his

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Speaker 1: bravery and sacrifice. Nothing can reverse the damage done to

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Speaker 2: We got some interesting data in a moment ago. There's

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Speaker 2: something that Democrats are going to have to explain to

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Speaker 1: New poll out asking the question, and I just tweeted

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Speaker 1: the yourself to what extent, if at all, was Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris involved in covering up Biden's health A great deal?

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Speaker 1: Sixty eight percent, not at all four percent. This would

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Speaker 1: know it? Who is the person who uttered that phrase

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Speaker 1: Do you know, Uh, it was about about Nixon stuff, right,

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Speaker 1: who said it? Who was the person who came up

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Speaker 1: this is interesting. He later became a senator, Fred Thompson

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Speaker 1: Hunt for Red October. Do you know that Fred Thompson history.

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