WEBVTT - Qatar’s Billion‑Dollar Influence Machine, Clarence Thomas Challenges Progressivism & the Liberal Heckler’s Veto Playbook Week In Review

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Verdict with Ted CRU's weekend Review. Ben Ferguson

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<v Speaker 2>with you, and here are the stories that we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this week that you may have missed. First up,

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<v Speaker 2>Katar spending serious money to hire pr firms in America

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<v Speaker 2>to cover for them. We expose it all. Also, Senator

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<v Speaker 2>Cruz talks about his new book and it's an incredible

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<v Speaker 2>interview that he has done over hours with Clarence Thomas,

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court Justice. So what is the book about.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll explain it. And finally, law school students decided to

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<v Speaker 2>not allow a fellow lawyer to actually speak on campus

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<v Speaker 2>should they have the chance to actually even become lawyers

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<v Speaker 2>or ever sit on a bench as a judge. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>break that down for you as well. It's the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>Review and it starts right now. I want to move

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<v Speaker 2>to Katar real quick, and that is another big story here.

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<v Speaker 2>Katar is a country that's very interesting how they spend

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<v Speaker 2>their money. They certainly do it to influence our opinion

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<v Speaker 2>of them as a name. That is something that's very

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<v Speaker 2>important to them. And they spend millions and millions and

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<v Speaker 2>millions of dollars on our universities trying to gain favor,

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<v Speaker 2>to have people think of them in a positive light.

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<v Speaker 2>Qatar is now hiring pr firms, big ones in DC

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<v Speaker 2>to help cover and to whitewash them right now with

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<v Speaker 2>their supportive terrorist activities in the Middle East. Let's just

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<v Speaker 2>expose that for everybody right now so you understand. And plus,

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<v Speaker 2>Guitar has been interesting because it also deals with our

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<v Speaker 2>friend guy by the Navi, Tucker Carlson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Look, Qatar is the number one foreign funder of

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<v Speaker 1>US universities.

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<v Speaker 2>And to get more than China, by the way, which

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<v Speaker 2>is something that is a point that a massive asterisk,

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<v Speaker 2>because China's also tried to buy a significant amount of

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<v Speaker 2>influence in the US and our universities as well. And

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<v Speaker 2>think about the size of China and compare it to Qatar,

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<v Speaker 2>And that tells you just how important Guitar believes getting

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<v Speaker 2>the minds of our kids and our colleges to look

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<v Speaker 2>at them in some way a positive way.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's give give you a sense of the scope. The

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<v Speaker 1>number one foreign donor to US university's is Cutter between

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty six and two thousand and five. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they've given.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say billions?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that too much, seven point seven billion with a

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<v Speaker 1>bre you go, yeah, you know how much they gave

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five?

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<v Speaker 2>How much?

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<v Speaker 1>Over one billion? Yeah, they are flooding cash. Number two

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<v Speaker 1>is China. Where do you think China is?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to guess a little bit below them, but

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<v Speaker 2>definitely close to a billion.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in terms of the overall twenty five I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you the twenty five numbers in a second. In terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the window eighty six to present, the total is

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<v Speaker 1>six point four billion.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>The next ones or Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, Germany

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<v Speaker 1>and Canada. Now what about this last year? The most

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<v Speaker 1>recent disclosures from twenty twenty five and identify cutter over

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<v Speaker 1>one point one billion, the United Kingdom over six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty three million, China over five hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight million, Switzerland over four hundred and fifty one million,

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<v Speaker 1>Japan over three hundred and seventy four million, Germany over

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and ninety two million, and Saudi Arabia over

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred eighty five million. The top university recipients of

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<v Speaker 1>those foreign funds in twenty twenty five are Carnegie Mellon

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<v Speaker 1>almost a billion dollars, MIT almost a billion dollars, Stanford

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<v Speaker 1>over seven hundred and seventy five million, and Harvard University

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<v Speaker 1>over three hundred and twenty four million. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the entire window from nineteen eighty six to

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<v Speaker 1>the end of twenty twenty five, Harvard University is disclosed

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<v Speaker 1>that it has received more money from counterparties located in

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<v Speaker 1>countries of concern, which are countries that are enemies of

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<v Speaker 1>America than any other institution of higher education, totaling over

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred and ten million dollars, and Harvard is followed

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<v Speaker 1>by MIT four hundred and ninety million, n YU four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty two million, Stanford four hundred and eighteen million,

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<v Speaker 1>and Yale University over four hundred million.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, translation, our universities are for sale to

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<v Speaker 2>the people that hate America the.

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<v Speaker 1>Most they are and the list of those universities that

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<v Speaker 1>receive the most money from the countries that hate us

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<v Speaker 1>are almost exactly the list of the universities that had

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<v Speaker 1>the worst anti Semitic protest. I mean, Cutter knows what

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting. Seven point seven million dollars ain't cheap. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what is is fascinating on this also is

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<v Speaker 1>you look at all the countries that invest real money,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you look at that, the number one is Cutter, who,

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<v Speaker 1>among other things, fund from US. Do you know who

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<v Speaker 1>is what country is not on the top seventy countries?

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<v Speaker 2>What is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Israel? Yeah, And I just want to say, for all

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<v Speaker 1>the knuckleheads online or it's like, oh, Israel runs everything,

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<v Speaker 1>Israel's paying for everything. Israel's the money bags.

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<v Speaker 2>They're buying influence.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it actually is really funny if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the list of countries, I'm just going to read it

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<v Speaker 1>in descending order because I'm going to show you all

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<v Speaker 1>the countries that put more money in US universities than

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<v Speaker 1>Israel does. Cutter, England, China, Saudi Arabia, Bermuda, Canada, Bermuda,

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<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong, Japan, Switzerland, India, Germany, the United Arab Emirates, France, Singapore, Australia, Kuwait, Denmark,

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<v Speaker 1>the Netherlands, Brazil, Sweden, South Korea, Spain, Norway, Thailand. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there is Israel. I'm sorry, I misspoke. Israel falls right

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<v Speaker 1>below Thailand and below even Bermuda. There you go, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where they fall. And I separately jumped online on AI

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<v Speaker 1>to ask, you know, just how where does Israel rank

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<v Speaker 1>as a foreign funder of US universities? And the answer

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<v Speaker 1>from Google AI Israel is not a top tier foreign

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<v Speaker 1>funder of US universities by volume. Well, Middle Eastern nations

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<v Speaker 1>like Cutter in Saudi Arabia have donated billions. Israel's contributed

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<v Speaker 1>significantly less, with estimates of roughly three hundred million in

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<v Speaker 1>donations over the past twenty five years, often focused on

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<v Speaker 1>specific research or academic partnerships. And so it just just

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<v Speaker 1>worth underscoring because if you live in the twisted world

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<v Speaker 1>of Twitter yeah and Twitter comments, you think Israel's pay

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<v Speaker 1>for everything? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think they'd be ten x Qatar or

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<v Speaker 2>any other country.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a reason Cutter has hired these two Washington

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<v Speaker 1>PR firms. So one of the firms, it's the Qatar Foundation,

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<v Speaker 1>a state run nonprofit that Doha uses to pedal influence

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<v Speaker 1>at American higher education, hired the Washington Media Group at

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<v Speaker 1>a rate of forty thousand per month. So good business

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lobbyist to provide quote strategic communications support

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<v Speaker 1>that enhance public understanding of its long standing academic partnerships

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<v Speaker 1>with US universities located in Education City, Cutter. According to

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<v Speaker 1>the firm's March thirtieth federal disclosion registering it as a

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<v Speaker 1>foreign agent. The Washington Media Group describes itself as quote,

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<v Speaker 1>a female and minority owned company that crafts solutions to

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<v Speaker 1>high profile crises and protects and repairs reputations. Its CEO

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<v Speaker 1>and president and the agent listed on the contract with

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<v Speaker 1>the Cutter Foundation is a woman named Crystal Patterson, who

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<v Speaker 1>has a long history of running digital strategy and communication

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<v Speaker 1>for Democrats such as Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, and former Rep.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Ryan. She worked for the left wing Center for

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<v Speaker 1>American Progress, focusing on quote, immigration and diversity policy. According

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<v Speaker 1>to her bio, in other words, immigration let in more

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<v Speaker 1>anti American Islamists who hate America, so then they can

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<v Speaker 1>destroy America like sadly they're destroying many of the countries

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<v Speaker 1>of Europe. She also is a graduate of Northwestern University,

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<v Speaker 1>which boasts a campus in Doha in Cutter that holds

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<v Speaker 1>a contract with Cutter forbidding its students and faculty from

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<v Speaker 1>criticizing the Katari regime. Let me repeat that Northwestern has

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<v Speaker 1>a campus and Cutter that holds a contract with Cutter

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<v Speaker 1>forbidding its students and faculties from criticizing the Katari regime.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes sense. That's money well spent right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, you can't bite the hand that feeds you. The

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<v Speaker 1>Cutter Foundation also retained the law firm Venable at a

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<v Speaker 1>monthly rate of twenty five thousand dollars for government relations

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<v Speaker 1>services quote pertaining to the public profile of the foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>Thenable will quote help ensure that members of Congress and

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<v Speaker 1>the Administration have an accurate understanding of Cutter foundation support

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<v Speaker 1>for education and it's work with US universities. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they're freaking out and hiring lobbyists is

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing because people are onto them. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>these are the same guys that host the leadership of

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas in Cutter. They live like billionaires, they live like kings.

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<v Speaker 1>They fund Al Jazeera. They're spreading Islamus propaganda, They're supporting

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<v Speaker 1>the Muslim Brotherhood. They're spreading anti American garbage, they're spreading

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<v Speaker 1>anti Semitic garbage. They're funding these violent radicals on campuses,

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<v Speaker 1>these communists on campus. By the way, and I will say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, Cutter also funded what's the head spies

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<v Speaker 1>spying on me. It's been publicly reported they hired spies.

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<v Speaker 2>They look they wanted to know what you were doing, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got to say, my life's pretty boring. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you want to see me at home

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<v Speaker 1>at at at what time? Is it midnight?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's it's one in the morning, service one

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning. I hired me for fifty grand I

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<v Speaker 2>would have told him what you were doing at one

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, it's it's really exciting. There is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Heidi and the girls are sound asleep, and I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the room sadly not too far from the cat litter

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<v Speaker 1>for for our cats that that that that Carolina doors,

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<v Speaker 1>so that their spies I think are pretty bored right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>you can go back and listen to the full podcast

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<v Speaker 2>from earlier this week. Now onto story number two.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week Clarence Thomas gave a speech at the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas and the speech was positively magisterial. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I texted Justice Thomas and I told him thank you

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<v Speaker 1>that that was an important speech.

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<v Speaker 3>It was beautifully done.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to play a minute of the speech so

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<v Speaker 1>you can hear. Because this was this really sort of

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<v Speaker 1>encapsulates who he is. I was proud of UT for

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<v Speaker 1>inviting him. I think the student body, those in attendance

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<v Speaker 1>were enraptured. Give a listen. Listen to what Justice Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>said last week in a speech at UT.

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<v Speaker 3>There isn't a single judge I know who does hard

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<v Speaker 3>things because they get joy out of it. They do

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<v Speaker 3>hard things because they signed up to do hard things.

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<v Speaker 3>And they may not agree with it, and it may

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<v Speaker 3>be difficult, they may think it's not a great law.

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<v Speaker 3>But their job as Article three judges is to enforce

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<v Speaker 3>the law, to interpret it, and to apply it to

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<v Speaker 3>that particular case. When I first became a judge, judge

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<v Speaker 3>Larry Siverman, who's unfortunately passed away, said, ask yourself before

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<v Speaker 3>each case, what is my role in this case as

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<v Speaker 3>a judge? Notice how that limits you, not as a person,

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<v Speaker 3>not as a Catholic, not as a policy maker, not

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<v Speaker 3>as a husband, as a judge. And that is early

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<v Speaker 3>on that required more.

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<v Speaker 2>Discipline, more discipline. Yeah, that's a great way of putting

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<v Speaker 2>that from Krarence Thomas are and you said earlier being

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<v Speaker 2>a kid in the audience at UT getting to hear

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation truly an incredible moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say when he's talking about being a

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<v Speaker 1>judge and more discipline, a lot of what I talk

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<v Speaker 1>about in the book is his approach to being a

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<v Speaker 1>judge and it's very much Look his grandfather, he was

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<v Speaker 1>raised by his grandfather. His grandfather worked him hard, yea.

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<v Speaker 1>He worked. He worked delivering fuel oil, he worked on

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<v Speaker 1>the farm, he helped build their home on the farm.

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<v Speaker 1>He worked his fingers literally bloody. His grandfather during the

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<v Speaker 1>bitter cold of the winter, would not let Clarence Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>wear gloves because he thought gloves made you soft. He

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make him a strong and tough and discipline.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of what Clarence Stemas does, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The school of hard knocks mentality behind a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>great men. They had really tough people in their life

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<v Speaker 2>that made them into great men.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's an example of that well. And Clarence Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>had enormous expectations on him and his approach to being

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<v Speaker 1>a justice. There are a lot of justices who use

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<v Speaker 1>much more high falut and rhetoric. You look at Clarence

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas opinions. They're plain spoken, they're very matter of fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they are designed so they can be read by

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<v Speaker 1>every man, so they can and look, he was growing

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<v Speaker 1>up in Georgia with a lot of poor African Americans

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding them, many of whom were illiterate. His grandparents who

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<v Speaker 1>raised him were almost functionally illiterate. They had very limited

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<v Speaker 1>reading skills. And so he tries to write his opinions

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that they are accessible, they're straightforward, and

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<v Speaker 1>he approaches each opinion. I use the analogy in the book.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a carpenter. It's like someone building a home.

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<v Speaker 1>He lays the foundation, he frames the house. He does

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<v Speaker 1>it peace after peace, trying to get to the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>And the title of the book, going further. If you

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<v Speaker 1>look at thirty plus years of Clarence Thomas's time on

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<v Speaker 1>the Court, his consistent theme is we should go further.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a quote from his dissent in the term limits case.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is a theme that other great conservative justices

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<v Speaker 1>would say, let's do X, and he would say, no,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go further. And his focus is let's get back

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<v Speaker 1>to the original understanding of the Constitution. Let's go all

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<v Speaker 1>the way and the impact he has had has changed

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<v Speaker 1>law profoundly. And I want you to listen to him

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<v Speaker 1>again at ut last week talking about the importance of

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<v Speaker 1>the Constitution but also the importance of the Declaration of Independence,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Clarence Thomas emphasizes and highlights the Declaration

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<v Speaker 1>more than any other. Justice Here, give a listen.

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<v Speaker 3>None of our rights come from the government. All of

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<v Speaker 3>the government's authority comes from our consent, and the structure

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<v Speaker 3>and limited role of government is to assure that it

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<v Speaker 3>does not exceed the authority to which we have consented

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<v Speaker 3>or intrude on our natural rights. The Constitution is the

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<v Speaker 3>means of government. It is the declaration that announces the

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<v Speaker 3>ends of government. The Constitution achieves this purpose by protecting

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<v Speaker 3>our natural rights and our liberties from concentrated power and

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<v Speaker 3>excessive democracy. Our Constitution creates a separation of powers and

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<v Speaker 3>federalism truly for the first time in modern history, to

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<v Speaker 3>prevent the government from becoming so strong that it threatens

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<v Speaker 3>our natural rights.

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<v Speaker 2>He takes his time, and that's one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't wing it.

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<v Speaker 1>He understood putting on a show speaks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's these words are deliberate, and you can tell

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<v Speaker 2>that he has just an incredible amount of passion and

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<v Speaker 2>care for this country. And I also think when you

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<v Speaker 2>get a little bit older, you probably are thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>your legacy and what you're leaving behind. And he clearly

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<v Speaker 2>speaks that way to those students, going, Hey, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>always going to be here being a shepherd. Somebody else

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<v Speaker 2>is going to have to step forward and do this,

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<v Speaker 2>and it may take a lot of people to accomplish

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<v Speaker 2>what he's done in his lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I'll tell you again. In that ut speech,

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<v Speaker 1>he contrasts the principles of the Declaration of Independence, the

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<v Speaker 1>principles of the Constitution, the immutable principles upon which our

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<v Speaker 1>country was founded. He contrasts them with progressivism. And progressivism

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<v Speaker 1>I think has been a poison that that that has

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<v Speaker 1>led the United States a very dangerous direction. Listened to justice,

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas draw in that.

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<v Speaker 3>Contrast, progressivism seeks to replace the basic premises of the

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<v Speaker 3>Declaration of Independence and hence our form of government. It

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<v Speaker 3>holds that our rights and our dignities come not from

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<v Speaker 3>God but from government. It requires of the people a

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<v Speaker 3>subservience and weakness incompatible with a constitution premise on the

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<v Speaker 3>transcendent origin of our rights.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. I mean wow, what else can you say besides wow?

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, you might say, well, gosh, is

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<v Speaker 1>progressivism really at war with the principles of the Declaration

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<v Speaker 1>of Independence. You may remember last year at a Senate

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<v Speaker 1>Formulations committee when Tim Kaine, Democrat from Virginia, was questioning

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<v Speaker 1>a nominee to the State Department of President Trump nominated

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<v Speaker 1>the State Department who had written in his testimony that

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<v Speaker 1>our rights come from God, not government. And Tim kin

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<v Speaker 1>got outraged and he said, that is a radical statement.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a dangerous statement. That is an extreme statement.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the kind of thing theocratic societies like a

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<v Speaker 1>Rand build believe. We don't believe that God doesn't give

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<v Speaker 1>us our rights. Government does. And I walked in right

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<v Speaker 1>as Tim Kaine was saying this, and I had a

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<v Speaker 1>whole line of questioning that I had planned to go

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<v Speaker 1>down on the hearing, and I threw it all in

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<v Speaker 1>the trash, and I spoke shortly after Tim Kaine, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, Tim Kaine said, the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>our rights come from God is a radical and dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>and extreme idea. And he's right, it is. It also

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<v Speaker 1>happens to be the founding principle upon which our nation

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<v Speaker 1>was created. And I said, listen, if you don't believe me,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you're inclined. You're politically left of center, and you

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<v Speaker 1>may be inclined not to believe me. If you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you might believe another Virginian who wrote, we hold

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<v Speaker 1>these rights. We hold these truths to be self evident,

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<v Speaker 1>that all men are created equal, and that they are

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<v Speaker 1>endowed by their creator, not by government, not by the DNC,

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<v Speaker 1>but by God Almighty, with certain unelienable rights. That among

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<v Speaker 1>these are life liberty in the pursuit of happiness. That was,

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<v Speaker 1>of course Thomas Jefferson. That was in the declaration. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what justice Thomas is referring. And part of what was

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<v Speaker 1>so disturbing about Tim Kaine, so cavalierly dismissing the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that our rights come from God and instead insisting they

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<v Speaker 1>come from government. Is Tim Kaine and the Democrat Party

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<v Speaker 1>is not some crazy radical. He's not Bernie Sanders, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not Elizabeth Warren. He was Hillary Clinton's vice presidential nominee.

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<v Speaker 1>He is about as mainstream a Democrat as you can find.

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<v Speaker 1>And it really shows how progressivism has suffused the Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>Party and I got to say at ut last week

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<v Speaker 1>also Justice Thomas talked about the need to engage and

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<v Speaker 1>engage in the fight for truth. Here give a listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if we don't stand up and take ownership

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<v Speaker 3>of our country and take responsible for it, we are

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<v Speaker 3>slowly letting others control how we think and what we think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the beauty of going to school is that

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<v Speaker 3>you learn how to think for yourselves. You develop the

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<v Speaker 3>discipline to think things through you. If you think it's

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<v Speaker 3>losing confidence, then you get up and you participate. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't sit on the sidelines. You think that the that

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<v Speaker 3>the state is being run and inconsistent with how you feel,

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<v Speaker 3>and you get up and you participate. You prepare yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>If you think that the medical profession is not right,

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<v Speaker 3>when you become a doctor or be a medical person

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<v Speaker 3>and you deal with that. I think we need to

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<v Speaker 3>take ownership of our country.

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<v Speaker 2>It's our country, it's our country, and man, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things he said there that was interesting

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<v Speaker 2>is he said, you know, you go to school to learn,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to figure out what you believe in, what

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<v Speaker 2>you think, and those of things. I think the last

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<v Speaker 2>and to learn how to think and learn how to think.

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<v Speaker 2>They think, No, No, you come here so we can indoctrinate you, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>and tell you what to think, and tell you what

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<v Speaker 2>to say, and tell you what to protest, and tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what how to act. That is the difference between

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<v Speaker 2>conservatism and liberalism on a college campus.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me say this. If you're a young person,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you're in high school, maybe you're in college. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're a young professional. Maybe you're not that young anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you're in.

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<v Speaker 1>Your thirties, or your forties, or your fifties, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>your sixties, seventy eighty, maybe you're in your nineties. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want a hero, I think you could do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot worse than Clarence Thomas.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great I'm putting it.

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<v Speaker 1>He is someone. Look, I spent the better part of

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<v Speaker 1>a year writing this book. There's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>to devote my time to. The reason I wrote this

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<v Speaker 1>book is I believe this book needed to be written.

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<v Speaker 1>His story needed to be told. His autobiography is great,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was written a long time ago, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people today haven't read it. And his jurisprudence.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been other other books that have been written

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<v Speaker 1>that have been academic discussions of his jurisprudence, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a federal judge, if you're a law professor, that

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<v Speaker 1>can be useful. But there's very little in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>if you're just an American who cares about our country,

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<v Speaker 1>who cares about truth, there's very little that explains what

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<v Speaker 1>Clarence Thomas has stood for, what he said when he's

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<v Speaker 1>argued on the court. And this book I've tried to

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<v Speaker 1>do so in a way that it's fun, that is interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>that's telling inside stories. And so again, the website is

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<v Speaker 1>Goingfurther dot Com, Going Further dot Com. I'd encourage you

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to this podcast right now, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>watching on YouTube, just click over on your phone to

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<v Speaker 1>Going Further dot Com. Pre order a copy, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you may even think about this. Will be August. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have if you have a child, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a grandchild, if you have relative, you have a friend,

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<v Speaker 1>Birthday's coming up, Christmas is coming up. This book I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote because I want people to read it. I want

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<v Speaker 1>people to read it because I think Clarence Thomas's life,

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<v Speaker 1>his journey, his principles, his commitment to truth, and his courage.

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<v Speaker 1>As before.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to hear the rest of this conversation

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<v Speaker 2>on this topic, you can go back and dow the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get back to the big story number

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<v Speaker 2>three of the week. You may have missed. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a very interesting flashpoint that happened that was underreported or

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<v Speaker 2>just not even touched at UCLA with a con conservative

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<v Speaker 2>speaker that was coming to the law school. And I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be clear, I have no problem with protests

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<v Speaker 2>on college campuses. I think it's great that's outside. Disrupting

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<v Speaker 2>and silencing a conservative speaker or a liberal speaker in

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<v Speaker 2>the venue, that is completely different. UCLA did nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>in essence, stop this from happening, silencing a conservative speaker,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's now gone viral on YouTube and on x

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<v Speaker 2>thank goodness, on social media. I want to get your

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<v Speaker 2>reaction to this because it was pre planned and UCLA

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't do enough to stop it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, everyone has a right to protest, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a right to speak, But what you don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>right to do is engage in what's called the Heckler's veto.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have a right to silence a speaker you

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with, and that's what the left does. The left

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<v Speaker 1>is terrified of opposing views. They do this frequently. So

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. UCLA Law School invited a lawyer from the

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<v Speaker 1>Department Homeland Security to come talk the Federalist society at

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<v Speaker 1>the law school did leftists came and deliberately disrupted the event.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got to say, this reminded me of an

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<v Speaker 1>event that happened a couple of years ago at Stanford

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<v Speaker 1>Law School, another California law school, where Kyle Duncan, who

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<v Speaker 1>was a federal appellate judge from the Fifth Circuit, spoke

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<v Speaker 1>and you had law students who screamed and yelled and

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<v Speaker 1>said that they hoped that his daughters were raped. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really twisted. And I got to say, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a lawyer, I'm a law school graduate, member of

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<v Speaker 1>the bar. Any lawyer, if you remember the bar, you

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<v Speaker 1>number one have to pass a character and fitness test.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're in front of a judge, I got

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you, if you're a lawyer and you scream

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<v Speaker 1>and curse at the judge and say you hope that

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<v Speaker 1>his daughter was raped, you will be held in contempt

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<v Speaker 1>and go to jail like that is not compatible with

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<v Speaker 1>actually being a lawyer. And so if you disagree with

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<v Speaker 1>the views some speakers saying, you can protest outside, you

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<v Speaker 1>can express your own views, but you don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>right to engage in in shouting them down, attacking, silencing them,

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<v Speaker 1>preventing others from listening to those messages. Now, I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>just a minute ago my brand new book Going Further,

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<v Speaker 1>the incomparable Clarence Thomas. By the way, you can order

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<v Speaker 1>that book at Goingfurther dot com Gooingfurther dot com. The

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>book I wrote before that was entitled Unwoke, How to

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<v Speaker 1>Defeat Cultural Marxism in America. And I mentioned that because

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<v Speaker 1>when I talk about college and universities, I talk at

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<v Speaker 1>length about what happened at Stanford. What happened at Stanford

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<v Speaker 1>with this federal judge that was screamed and denounced by

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<v Speaker 1>law students. Well, you know what happened. A couple things happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Number One at Stanford. When this happened, the administrator from

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<v Speaker 1>Stanford Law School came in. Now, she could have said,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, enough, you don't get to silence the speaker.

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<v Speaker 1>You can express your own views, but you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent the students from hearing the views of this

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<v Speaker 1>federal judge. She didn't do that. Instead, she gave this long,

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<v Speaker 1>pre written speech agreeing with the hecklers and protesters and

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<v Speaker 1>attacking the judge and saying the juice is not worth

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<v Speaker 1>the squeeze. Now, amazingly, Stanford Law School fired her because

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<v Speaker 1>of what she did there, and not only that. I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a letter. I wrote a letter to the Chief

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<v Speaker 1>Justice of the Texas Supreme Court, and I said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>these are law students that want to be lawyers, some

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<v Speaker 1>of them maybe want to be lawyers in Texas. Part

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<v Speaker 1>of being a lawyer is character and fitness, the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to appear in a court and not scream and yell

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<v Speaker 1>and curse at a judge. These law students have demonstrated

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<v Speaker 1>their unwilling to do so. And I called on the

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Supreme Court to inquire of any graduates of Stanford

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<v Speaker 1>Law School of the relevant time period, did you participate

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<v Speaker 1>in screaming and cursing and shouting down a federal judge?

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<v Speaker 1>And if you did, we're not going to admit you

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<v Speaker 1>as a member of the Texas Bar because that's not

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<v Speaker 1>how lawyers are allowed to behave in front of judges,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Texas Supreme Court did exactly that. They said,

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<v Speaker 1>because the law schools are not enforcing the rules, are

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<v Speaker 1>not protecting free speech, we the state of Texas, are

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<v Speaker 1>going to do So. I got to say, as I

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<v Speaker 1>look at what happened at u c l A, that

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<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense here and I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to listen. Listen to these students when the lawyer from

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<v Speaker 1>the Apartment of Homeland Security began speaking.

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<v Speaker 4>Today speaker is brought to us by the U c

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<v Speaker 4>l A Chapter of the Federal Society.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>My parents have.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of very well most of the time. Finally,

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<v Speaker 5>you're anyone who is coming in is paying for this,

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<v Speaker 5>and they typically don't have them ask for it.

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<v Speaker 6>So typically what happens is they will basically agree the

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<v Speaker 6>cartels will help them enter and then they maybe their

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<v Speaker 6>final destination of the responsible pay off the dead at

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<v Speaker 6>the time.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, so when you're, you know, an a situation

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<v Speaker 5>where you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Working, you look at this and and some of these

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<v Speaker 2>that are up there. Just so people on radio and

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<v Speaker 2>listening on the podcast, they're holding up signs. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>these kids after doing with f bombs and other things

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<v Speaker 2>in the face of this speaker. And these are not

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<v Speaker 2>these are not just random kids. These are people that

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<v Speaker 2>are in law school.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're playing their phones. They're holding up their phones

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<v Speaker 1>and making noises to shut down the speaker. So the

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<v Speaker 1>noises you heard there are are they're holding up their phones.

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<v Speaker 1>And they did this throughout the speech. And and this

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<v Speaker 1>is an example if you disagree with the speaker, although

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<v Speaker 1>I point out they don't even know if they disagree

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<v Speaker 1>with the speaker because they didn't actually listen to what

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<v Speaker 1>he had to say.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Disagree with this, poverty was paying for part of this?

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<v Speaker 1>You know that's not a crazy question.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, seriously, this is the type of

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<v Speaker 2>sting they would sponsor and pay for.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, the amazing thing about leftists is they're so angry

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<v Speaker 1>and they're not willing to actually confront substance. So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you're a UCLA liberal and you don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration's immigration policy. Okay, yeah, you could lay

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<v Speaker 1>out your view of why you think you should have

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<v Speaker 1>a different policy, but you don't see anyone there confronting

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<v Speaker 1>was twelve million people invading this country over the four

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<v Speaker 1>years of Biden. A good thing was the Biden administration

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<v Speaker 1>releasing thousands of murderers and rapists and child molesters and

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<v Speaker 1>drunk drivers and gang bangers. A good thing. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>address that because those are actual facts. Those are actual

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<v Speaker 1>facts that resulted in Americans being murdered, being assaulted, and

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<v Speaker 1>women being raped and children being raped. They don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to engage in that. I'm perfectly fine if these leftists

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<v Speaker 1>want to go have a protest outside and say we

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<v Speaker 1>love open borders invade our country, which sadly seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be the view of the leftist, but they're not actually

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<v Speaker 1>engaging in ideas. They're trying to use oppression. If you

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with someone, respond with reason and logic, don't respond

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<v Speaker 1>with bullying and force and essentially trying to stifle free speech.

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<v Speaker 1>And where the hell was the administration of UCLA. Why

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<v Speaker 1>was there no administrator there saying no, you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>to shut this event down just because you disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center,

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