WEBVTT - Colin Cowherd Podcast - Nick Wright on Damar Hamlin Aftermath, Harbaugh NFL Future, KD/Kyrie Sustainability 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:07.200 The Volume. It's the Colin Coward Podcast presented by Fan 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:10.080 Duel Football Seasons in full gear. No better place to 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.760 get in on the action than Fan Duel. Fan Duel 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.639 App is safe, you get paid fast, a lot of 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:21.239 ways to play the spread, the money line, team totals, players, props, 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.439 a lot of stuff over unders, jump into the action, 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.680 same game parlays are my favorite. Just use the promo 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:35.480 code Colin and download the Fan Duel app today. Well, 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:41.520 hire everybody. I'm your affable host, Colin Calhern Nick Wright 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:46.160 in ten minutes. We haven't had Nikki on for seven 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.560 eight weeks. It'll be a blast today. Good thirty forty 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:52.360 minutes with Nick Wright. Oh is enjoyable. So I thought 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:56.520 I would open today with some thoughts on a very 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:02.040 frightening scene with Damar Hamlin day night in Cincinnati. There's 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:06.800 been a lot of criticism by the media of the 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:11.600 NFL of not canceling the game immediately. And you know, 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:16.080 one of the things that I've learned running the Volume, 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.679 and the Volume we're up to about thirty employees, is 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:24.280 that our rule at the Volume is let's just get 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:29.040 it right, whatever process it takes, Let's just get it right. 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:34.160 Communication in this world. Some of us are in Delaware, 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:38.160 some of us are in Sarasota, Florida. I'm in Los Angeles. 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.479 People are all over the country, different time zones. My 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:43.880 staff often is doing this at one in the morning. 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:47.960 Why you know, it's only ten for me and I 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:49.680 try to think about that. Let's just get it right. 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.760 But it's not easy, right, communications not easy, And I'm 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:56.240 dealing with young people, good communicators, very verbal, good with tech. 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:01.000 So when Monday Night happened, a lot of people weren't 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.000 happy with a timeline. A lot of media people very 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:08.160 critical of the NFL. And if you're an actor, they say, 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:12.919 the greatest challenge is doing Broadway. Why because it's live. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:18.079 TV films are edited. Ioways find that broadcasting is much 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:24.120 harder than this podcasting. Why because it's live. Business is 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:28.560 harder when it's live. I have known in my life 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:33.720 twenty five people who have worked for professional sports franchises. 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:42.160 An NFL game live game day is a massive, massive undertaking. 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:47.440 The NFL had the protocols in place that first responders 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:51.080 were on the scene and quite possibly saved DeMar Hamlin's life. 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:56.359 That's the win. The NFL called the game that's the win. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.960 I don't want to get too precious on Well, you 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:05.679 know the coaches. The coaches are the ones who actually 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.959 told the officials, who told the league. Well, that's okay. 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.600 Let's say it was a natural disaster. The governor of 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:17.120 the state can watch on television, but the governor calls 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.600 the mayor. The mayor calls the National Guard. The National 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:23.240 Guard leader talks to the people on the ground. They're 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.360 seeing real emotions, real fear from people in a flood 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:32.240 or an earthquake. They're managing from the ground up. We 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:36.280 do that a lot at the volume. I manage from 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:40.880 my employees up. They tell me what they're capable of doing. 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:44.240 That's what the NFL did. They leaned on their coaches 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.720 who were next to the players, listening to the players cry, 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.080 watching them sob and the coaches said, we can't play 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.960 this game. And the NFL said in New York, okay, 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.200 we're canceling the game. The people writing columns ripping the NFL. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.160 You get three or four chances at a column. You 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.480 can have lunch during the columns, stop writing, have a 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:10.320 tune of sandwich, then start again. You have a copy editor. 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.040 What if your column was live and you got one 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.839 shot at it. That's why writing on Deadline. You're a 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:19.799 baseball writer, Gaymns goes twelve innings, you have to write 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.920 you have one shot. Is harder? Is that? I think 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.960 sometimes we have to realize in the media the stuff's 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:30.600 hard that instead of being upset in the process on 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:34.120 how decisions were made, we're thankful that the NFL's got 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:38.479 great EMTs, great first responders, very compassionate coaches and players, 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.320 and that eventually they got Monday Night right and hopefully 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:47.880 saved Damar Hamlin's life. Live anything is difficult. Think about 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.560 the NFL business. A big chunk of it is performed 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:56.080 not only live, but televised. I mean, just putting a 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:59.640 camera on a reality show usually ends up people getting 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:04.440 a divorce. Just putting a camera on couples, how many 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.719 times do you see those couples in a reality show? 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:14.120 Eventually they're separating. It adds stress. Live cameras go urgency. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:19.560 I look at that as possibly saving a wonderful young 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.520 person's life. I'm just not going to nitpick the process. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.359 It's very possible. The NFL, you know, they're not watching 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.839 the CPR. There's a big difference between a player going 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:33.599 into an ambulance or on a stretcher and seeing CPR live. 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.760 Even first responders who've gone through it hundreds of times 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:43.640 say that's traumatic. It's intense. You're saving somebody's life. Players 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:48.159 seeing that, most for the very first time. So listen. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.360 The NFL does things I don't agree with. I don't 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:56.240 like a seventeenth game. I don't like the preseason. There's 0:05:56.240 --> 0:06:00.799 an argument against Thursday night football. Those are valid arguments. 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.560 I've never liked the seventeenth game. You can't tell me 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.240 safety matters and then want your guys that deal with 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:10.200 sixty more punishing, punitive hits. You don't need the money, 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.920 so why are you doing it. It's greed, It's billionaire greed. 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:18.039 That's it. But in this instance, I think there's a 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.120 chance we saved a person's life. That's what I take 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:27.240 from what happened Monday night. So when Lincoln Riley took 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.960 the job at USC Oklahoma, fans made a lot of 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:36.200 jokes about USC's defense would be going down the tubes. Well, 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.640 it couldn't get worse than what he inherited. But Alex 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:43.880 Grinch is under a firestorm of criticism for losing a 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.320 huge lead in the last three to four minutes of 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:50.159 that game against two lane and losing. All coaches have 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.440 blind spots, and perhaps Lincoln Riley's blind spot is his 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:58.880 loyalty to his friend defensive coordinator Alex Grinch. In Lincoln 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:02.960 Riley's four bowl losses, he surrendered an average of fifty 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.960 two points. But it's also important, even in the transfer portal, 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:13.320 to acknowledge what Lincoln Riley inherited a four win team 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:18.520 with one legitimate NFL player, a second round defensive end. 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.400 I was told this by somebody close to the program 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.520 that when Lincoln Riley got there, they had about a 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:30.080 dozen linebackers a dozen. This is usc the late junior 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.880 Sayo played there. Clay Matthews played there lineback West Coast 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:41.960 linebacker you for decades, they had twelve linebackers in the program. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:47.480 None were NFL linebackers. Lincoln Riley was shocked by the 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:51.720 lack of linebacker talent. The offensive line had thirteen or 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:58.400 fourteen offensive lineman on scholarship. One Andrew Voorheis, a guard, 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.160 was viewed as being able to play this year and 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:09.080 eventually be draftable. So between linebacker and offensive line large 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:15.440 important units. There were roughly twenty five athletes, one pro 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.920 and one potential pro. That's what they inherited and the 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:27.080 transfer portal. Yes, USC got Jordan Addison and Caleb Williams 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.920 from it, but most players that enter the portal are 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:36.160 not playing enough for their liking. That's why they enter 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:41.200 the portal. They're not starting, or they're being phased out, 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.920 or they're being replaced at their program. So you can 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.440 improve your team through the transfer portal, especially if you 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:53.679 get a great quarterback or a star receiver. But I 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:58.000 would say a majority ninety percent of players that enter 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:02.760 the transfer portal are not worth half a point in 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:07.080 a college football game. We have to be realistic. What 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:15.800 Lincoln Riley inherited was a mess. They didn't believe. They 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:20.680 didn't say it publicly, but a third of the players 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:25.240 on this team last year were not really packed twelve 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:29.160 football players. They weren't. They weren't packed twelve football players 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:35.920 maybe at the eleventh and twelfth programs, but they were 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.960 Divisioned one players. But they weren't viewed as people who 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:44.280 should be anywhere near a top ten fifteen program. Lincoln 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:49.240 Riley inherited a mess. He solved the offense in one 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:53.800 off season. My guests, it'll take him an entire second 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:58.920 off season to at least solve most of the defensive issues. 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.920 The defense will be better next year. Let's get to Nick, right, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.680 all right, my buddy Nick right, Um. We haven't talked 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.439 to Nick in a couple of months. He's really busy. 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:14.080 First things first is a smash hit. It's crushing. You know, 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.440 it's funny, Nick, Thank you, buddy. You know, the show's 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:21.719 so successful. I've really nicely decorated my house with all 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.400 these you know, we get ratings bonuses. Yeah, I mean, 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.839 just wealth, just hitting me in the face. But your 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:28.640 producers won't let me show it off. They said, I 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:30.960 have to turn off all the lights. They said, you're 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.599 you're you're shaming Colin Coward. Collin's doing this from a 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:37.240 closet and you know, somewhere and I assumed the Upper 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.320 Valley in Los Angeles, and I've got this palatial estate. 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:42.120 I can't show it all. That's fine. Maybe at the 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.840 end of the pod I'll get up and so people 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.680 can see what a beautiful scene I have behind me. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:53.040 But go ahead. Sorry, the um, you know, I was 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.439 I was thinking about this because we don't get you 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.120 much anymore. And I do want to touch on the 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.920 Damar Hamlin situation. We're all praying for the young kid. 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:03.520 I mean, he's got a huge life ahead of him. 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.439 He's a wonderful guy. You can see the outpouring of 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:10.760 affection for him, right. But I'm in the media sometimes, 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:12.560 but I feel like I'm not of the media. They 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.400 always say that about Austin, Texas. It's in Texas, it's 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:19.000 not of Texas. I've never heard that, but I like that. Yeah, 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:23.120 I'm in Park City, Utah, in Utah. It's not of Utah. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:28.000 We drink there in party. Okay. So the reason podcasting 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:32.280 is easier than broadcasting is because it's not live, and 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.920 the reason broadway is harder than a film is because 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.320 it is live. Ye, And the NFL business is not 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:44.240 only live, it's televised. And I'm not going to pick 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:49.480 it apart for how they canceled the game. They had 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:54.839 first responders that saved his life. I listen, you and 0:11:54.880 --> 0:12:00.239 I don't have the exact same politics. We have similar 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.400 politics on a lot of things, and then on certain things, 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:08.200 I'm basically left of linen and so you're you know, 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:13.439 so on those things we diverge a bit, but that 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.120 and I don't know if this is political or not, 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:22.800 but it strikes me as a little political, the idea 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:30.120 that the NFL by definition must be the boogeyman here. 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:35.760 So there is the logistics of what happened. So I 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:40.079 was actually listening to a great radio show in Kansas City. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.000 It's on a rock radio station. But the friends of 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.319 mine have done it for twenty years, called the Churchilaslow, 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.240 and they've put on a lot of concerts, and they 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:52.040 were talking about this and what Laslow, the host of 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.440 it said. He was like, because he also thought the 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.800 NFL being criticized for not instantly saying game off. He 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:03.160 was like, there's nobody realized there's seventy thousand people there 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.400 and that there is someone that has to make sure. Hey, 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:11.120 how we all of these people don't know the exact 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.360 circumstance on the field. They're not watching the broadcast the 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.280 inner you know what I mean. A lot of people 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.560 the internet doesn't work great in stadiums. They know a 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.760 player is hurt, and if all of a sudden it 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.520 is just announced game canceled, don't you think they have 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.280 a little concern of wait, are people going to get 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:32.400 out of here safely? Are people? So even if they 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:36.440 had measures ready for that, there's a lot of layers 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.880 it has to go through. And the idea that and 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.160 I listen, you know Joe Buck really well, I know 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.600 him a little bit. I am not doubting that Joe 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.679 Buck was told, hey, the players have been you know, 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:51.960 it's five minutes. But to me, unless you are trying 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:56.480 to find a reason to say bleep you NFL, the 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.640 reason the five minutes thing happened is it has written 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:03.520 some were on a piece of paper. That's right. If 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:08.120 there is a some type of on field incident and 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.720 the delay is so long, you are allowed to have 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.760 five minutes to get back warm. And so when someone's like, 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:19.000 so what do we do here, somebody said, well, I 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.560 guess I guess they think that five minutes. But that 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.800 was never gonna be five minutes and it was never 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.280 gonna be played again, and the it was and I 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:31.880 think smart people knew that, but they like to blame someone. 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.880 So now that's what I think happened. Now here's my 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.000 maybe two deep thoughts on it. Because we saw people 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.600 get mad at the NFL. We saw people get mad 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:46.720 at tweets. We saw people get mad in tragedy, people 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:51.760 search for a villain when often there isn't one. Often 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:56.360 it's just shit. That was awful, and I hate that 0:14:56.440 --> 0:15:02.600 it happened. Furthermore, I I think lashing out at people 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:08.240 who prevents people from having to do the moments of 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:12.320 introspection of all Right, so if this is no one's 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:19.360 fault and this is just the potential cost of football, yeah, 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:23.840 oh boy, what does that say about me? Who bases 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:28.520 my entire weekend around football? What does that say about me? 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:33.040 That's a hard That's like a hard moral question. Am 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:37.200 I morally complicit in that? That's like a you know, 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.120 we need a philosophic philosopher to talk us through it. 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.720 You know what's easier? These fucking guys don't care about 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.880 the players. Give me a break, Like, give me a break. 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.640 And I'm not acting like the NFL is has always 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.360 put players safety first. They clearly haven't. And I'm not 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.680 an apologist for the league, but I'm gonna say one 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.080 other thing. I don't even know if they can cancel 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.880 the game immediately without talking players union. I think there 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:03.880 has to be a lot of phone calls that happened 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.960 or something like that can be done. So I wasn't 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:12.280 looking for a villain here. I just and and it 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.960 is people rallied in the end and have done an 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:20.080 amazing thing and the go fund me. But I wish 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.920 it was more natural instead of searching for a villain. 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.200 It would have been just as easy to say, oh 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:33.280 my god, what a remarkable job by the people who 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:37.600 recognized in seconds his heart stopped, knew what to do, 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:42.440 unscrewed the face mask, Zach gave him the defiberlation, CPR, 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.880 all of it. And if you did want to be 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:48.280 an NFL apologist, you know what you'd say, Hey, they 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:54.360 have like they evidently have a protocol in place for 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.640 what to do if a player's heart stops, even though 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.400 in my entire life watching football, they've never had to 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:05.880 use it. And it was executed perfectly, Like I don't 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.679 know that's the So I don't know if that's the 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.159 right answer, but that's you and I agree on this one. Yeah, no, 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:16.159 I think I even I try to personalize stories and 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.560 say what would I have done? Or Since I've started 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.880 the volume, we're up to about thirty employees, and one 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:24.760 of our rules is, let's just get it right. Whatever 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:28.360 the process is, let's just get it right. And so 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.439 we don't get too precious on the process. As you know, 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.200 you know, I've been doing this for thirty years. What 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:38.080 we do is small compared to like pro football. But 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:41.640 over the course of sometimes you know, you do things 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:45.280 in your marriage, on your show, with your kids, in parenting, 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.960 and you come to conclusions in crisis and argument a 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.880 school issue. How can I just get this right right? 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.639 How can I morally get it right? How can I 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.760 get the decision right? Is? Things are sloppy, you know, 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:03.000 things are Listen, man, When I watched there's a lot 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.520 I didn't know about childbirth, and then I watched it live, 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.680 I was like, I really like the final result. 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And because Jim Harbaw, I think he's 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:49.360 on the spectrum and he's awkward and he doesn't really 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:51.440 need the media. I think I get along with people. 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:55.600 I struggle with him. People don't understand it. Harbor went 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:59.359 forty four, nineteen and one in a division with arguably 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.720 the mo talented team in football in twenty years, the Seahawks. 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:07.040 The Seahawks won six games and went to three straight 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:11.800 NFC Championship games with Alex Smith and Cap as the quarterbacks, 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:14.119 and Cap had a nice moment. The Cap wasn't a 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:17.800 blue Chipper. Alex Smith was considered a bust and immediately 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:21.439 contended for championships and contended at Stanford and turned Michigan 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.679 into a contender. Yeah, so I thought about this. You know, 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:26.960 when we do a show, I have opinions, but sometimes 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:30.720 I'll sleep on it. Is that in college the NIL 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.480 has actually helped coaches because it used to be you 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.359 were felt guilty for making money because players weren't. Now 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:38.960 a quarterback at USC can make five million. Nobody talks 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:44.800 about coaches salaries, but a lot of these situations at 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:48.840 Michigan you do feel like your salaries published. You're the 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:52.119 highest paid state employee at eight million. Or you go 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.119 to the NFL make eighteen and nobody cares. Now you 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.880 get fired sooner, but nobody cares. Is that? I think 0:20:56.880 --> 0:21:00.199 to myself, I wouldn't I wouldn't leave Michigan. But I 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:05.840 do wonder now once the players get paid, the downside, 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:08.359 because I'm for the players getting paid, but the downside is, 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:12.879 well shit, if I'm gonna have my players paid and 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:15.359 they're gonna transfer any time. I'd rather just be a 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:17.200 pro coach and make twice the money and not deal 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:19.000 with the NC double A and we're gonna lose a 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.480 lot of these great coaches and not have to deal 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:25.680 with is he academically eligible? I would listen. I think 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:29.320 some people love recruiting. I think I would hate it. 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:35.399 I think the grind of the travel, plus there has 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:38.280 to be an element of and I don't want to 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:42.080 sound like an old man. And again, some coaches love it, 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:44.760 and maybe that's why they're coaches, because they love that thing. 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:50.840 But of like trying to convince a seventeen year old to, 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:56.240 you know, date you essentially, that seems again, I don't 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:57.840 think i'd love it. I don't think it'd be like 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:00.640 what are you doing? Like, well, I got a fly 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:04.080 to Baton Rouge because this seventeen year old kid that 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:05.679 I thought was going to come play for me, now 0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:08.320 I think he's gonna go play for Texas, So I 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:10.600 have to explain I have to win over him, his 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:14.600 mom and his dad like that. So I would far 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:18.600 prefer pro coaching, where you're dealing with with grown ups. 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:21.360 You only have to worry about the football part, and 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:25.600 you don't have to convince twenty twenty five new guys 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:29.080 every single year to come play for you. What is 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:32.879 interesting to me is it does seem like the money 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.720 in certain instances college you know, I mean, you tell 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:37.879 me if I'm wrong. Colin in certain instance seemed like 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:41.280 the money's bigger in college football. So like did melt Tucker, 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:44.440 Who's what not one of the fifteen best coaches got 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:48.400 ninety million dollars? Like knowing that very few NFL coaches 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:52.720 have that. So I think for certain guys, college is 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:55.760 a better deal. Hardball. Here's the thing I want to 0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:57.880 say about Hardball, because I I think Hardball is a 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.800 great coach, a great coach. And I made the point 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:04.040 on your show five years ago when I was filling 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:05.479 in for you, and then I made it again the 0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:09.000 other day that he has an argument that if the 0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:13.000 question is I need someone to coach my football team, 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:15.600 but I won't tell you if it's college or pro, 0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:19.080 he should be the number one draft pick because you 0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:21.240 can say, well, I'll take Belichick. Well what if he's 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:23.960 it's Alabama? Like, well, you know what I mean? Okay, 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:26.440 No, no no, no, I'll take Saban, Well, what if it's 0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:29.800 the Jets, Like Hardball has a proof of concept at 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:36.600 both levels instantly good, So I think he's a great coach. 0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:39.040 The one thing I think the media is getting wrong 0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:42.280 with the Hardball story is this they're like, oh, the 0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:47.280 new owners of the Broncos, they're the Walton family. They've 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:54.480 got seventy billion dollars. When it comes to coach salaries, 0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:59.600 the difference between seventy billion net worth and seven billion 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:03.800 network is irrelevant. Well, the coach salaries, it's like, oh, 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:06.480 they can pay him twenty million a year, so can 0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:09.960 eighty percent of the owners, Like, as long as you've 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:13.200 got more than a billion, you can pay the coach anything. 0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.840 So the idea that the dit Broncos have this leg 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:19.120 up because their owners are so rich, I think people 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.440 have it wrong. I don't think it's the three richest 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:24.640 NFL owners have an advantage. I think it's the four 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:28.840 NFL owners that don't have real money are at a 0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:32.760 huge disadvantage. So whether I think those teams are at 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:35.879 a real disadvantage, but I think I think every I 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:39.240 think eighty percent of the teams could hire a twenty 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:41.520 million dollars a year coach on a four year deal, 0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:45.200 fire him and do that five consecutive cycles and have 0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.840 four hundred million of dead coach money and it doesn't 0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.840 affect their bottom line at all because they are multi 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:55.600 or Decca billionaires. I think there's a few teams, whether 0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:58.680 it's the Cardinals, the Raiders, whomever, where it's like, oh, man, 0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:01.399 do they have to keep the coach because they can't 0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:07.920 afford to pay the buyout? A couple NBA topics. So 0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:12.000 I try to watch half an NBA game every night 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:15.760 in the treadmill. I love it, so that's my goal. 0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:17.680 So I get on the treadmill and I watch half 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:20.560 an NBA game, usually like an East Coast game. So 0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:24.680 I watched Brooklyn and they're playing really well. And this 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.080 is where I tend to be in my career. I 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:32.200 do football heavy, Super Bowl ends, I go skiing, or 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.840 I go to Mexico, come back, and then I'm totally 0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:38.879 into the NBA, NFL Draft, NFL free agency, but I'm 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:41.080 an NBA fan and I kind of block it off. 0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:44.879 I do Labor Day to February tenth as NFL see 0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:46.960 it's so funny. I'm this just real quip where you 0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:49.400 get to your question. I know people kind of perceive 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.880 me as an NBA guy because I'm like the Lebron guy, 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:56.919