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Speaker 1: in ten minutes. We haven't had Nikki on for seven
Speaker 1: eight weeks. It'll be a blast today. Good thirty forty
Speaker 1: minutes with Nick Wright. Oh is enjoyable. So I thought
Speaker 1: I would open today with some thoughts on a very
Speaker 1: frightening scene with Damar Hamlin day night in Cincinnati. There's
Speaker 1: been a lot of criticism by the media of the
Speaker 1: NFL of not canceling the game immediately. And you know,
Speaker 1: one of the things that I've learned running the Volume,
Speaker 1: and the Volume we're up to about thirty employees, is
Speaker 1: that our rule at the Volume is let's just get
Speaker 1: it right, whatever process it takes, Let's just get it right.
Speaker 1: Communication in this world. Some of us are in Delaware,
Speaker 1: some of us are in Sarasota, Florida. I'm in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: People are all over the country, different time zones. My
Speaker 1: staff often is doing this at one in the morning.
Speaker 1: Why you know, it's only ten for me and I
Speaker 1: try to think about that. Let's just get it right.
Speaker 1: But it's not easy, right, communications not easy, And I'm
Speaker 1: dealing with young people, good communicators, very verbal, good with tech.
Speaker 1: So when Monday Night happened, a lot of people weren't
Speaker 1: happy with a timeline. A lot of media people very
Speaker 1: critical of the NFL. And if you're an actor, they say,
Speaker 1: the greatest challenge is doing Broadway. Why because it's live.
Speaker 1: TV films are edited. Ioways find that broadcasting is much
Speaker 1: harder than this podcasting. Why because it's live. Business is
Speaker 1: harder when it's live. I have known in my life
Speaker 1: twenty five people who have worked for professional sports franchises.
Speaker 1: An NFL game live game day is a massive, massive undertaking.
Speaker 1: The NFL had the protocols in place that first responders
Speaker 1: were on the scene and quite possibly saved DeMar Hamlin's life.
Speaker 1: That's the win. The NFL called the game that's the win.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too precious on Well, you
Speaker 1: know the coaches. The coaches are the ones who actually
Speaker 1: told the officials, who told the league. Well, that's okay.
Speaker 1: Let's say it was a natural disaster. The governor of
Speaker 1: the state can watch on television, but the governor calls
Speaker 1: the mayor. The mayor calls the National Guard. The National
Speaker 1: Guard leader talks to the people on the ground. They're
Speaker 1: seeing real emotions, real fear from people in a flood
Speaker 1: or an earthquake. They're managing from the ground up. We
Speaker 1: do that a lot at the volume. I manage from
Speaker 1: my employees up. They tell me what they're capable of doing.
Speaker 1: That's what the NFL did. They leaned on their coaches
Speaker 1: who were next to the players, listening to the players cry,
Speaker 1: watching them sob and the coaches said, we can't play
Speaker 1: this game. And the NFL said in New York, okay,
Speaker 1: we're canceling the game. The people writing columns ripping the NFL.
Speaker 1: You get three or four chances at a column. You
Speaker 1: can have lunch during the columns, stop writing, have a
Speaker 1: tune of sandwich, then start again. You have a copy editor.
Speaker 1: What if your column was live and you got one
Speaker 1: shot at it. That's why writing on Deadline. You're a
Speaker 1: baseball writer, Gaymns goes twelve innings, you have to write
Speaker 1: you have one shot. Is harder? Is that? I think
Speaker 1: sometimes we have to realize in the media the stuff's
Speaker 1: hard that instead of being upset in the process on
Speaker 1: how decisions were made, we're thankful that the NFL's got
Speaker 1: great EMTs, great first responders, very compassionate coaches and players,
Speaker 1: and that eventually they got Monday Night right and hopefully
Speaker 1: saved Damar Hamlin's life. Live anything is difficult. Think about
Speaker 1: the NFL business. A big chunk of it is performed
Speaker 1: not only live, but televised. I mean, just putting a
Speaker 1: camera on a reality show usually ends up people getting
Speaker 1: a divorce. Just putting a camera on couples, how many
Speaker 1: times do you see those couples in a reality show?
Speaker 1: Eventually they're separating. It adds stress. Live cameras go urgency.
Speaker 1: I look at that as possibly saving a wonderful young
Speaker 1: person's life. I'm just not going to nitpick the process.
Speaker 1: It's very possible. The NFL, you know, they're not watching
Speaker 1: the CPR. There's a big difference between a player going
Speaker 1: into an ambulance or on a stretcher and seeing CPR live.
Speaker 1: Even first responders who've gone through it hundreds of times
Speaker 1: say that's traumatic. It's intense. You're saving somebody's life. Players
Speaker 1: seeing that, most for the very first time. So listen.
Speaker 1: The NFL does things I don't agree with. I don't
Speaker 1: like a seventeenth game. I don't like the preseason. There's
Speaker 1: an argument against Thursday night football. Those are valid arguments.
Speaker 1: I've never liked the seventeenth game. You can't tell me
Speaker 1: safety matters and then want your guys that deal with
Speaker 1: sixty more punishing, punitive hits. You don't need the money,
Speaker 1: so why are you doing it. It's greed, It's billionaire greed.
Speaker 1: That's it. But in this instance, I think there's a
Speaker 1: chance we saved a person's life. That's what I take
Speaker 1: from what happened Monday night. So when Lincoln Riley took
Speaker 1: the job at USC Oklahoma, fans made a lot of
Speaker 1: jokes about USC's defense would be going down the tubes. Well,
Speaker 1: it couldn't get worse than what he inherited. But Alex
Speaker 1: Grinch is under a firestorm of criticism for losing a
Speaker 1: huge lead in the last three to four minutes of
Speaker 1: that game against two lane and losing. All coaches have
Speaker 1: blind spots, and perhaps Lincoln Riley's blind spot is his
Speaker 1: loyalty to his friend defensive coordinator Alex Grinch. In Lincoln
Speaker 1: Riley's four bowl losses, he surrendered an average of fifty
Speaker 1: two points. But it's also important, even in the transfer portal,
Speaker 1: to acknowledge what Lincoln Riley inherited a four win team
Speaker 1: with one legitimate NFL player, a second round defensive end.
Speaker 1: I was told this by somebody close to the program
Speaker 1: that when Lincoln Riley got there, they had about a
Speaker 1: dozen linebackers a dozen. This is usc the late junior
Speaker 1: Sayo played there. Clay Matthews played there lineback West Coast
Speaker 1: linebacker you for decades, they had twelve linebackers in the program.
Speaker 1: None were NFL linebackers. Lincoln Riley was shocked by the
Speaker 1: lack of linebacker talent. The offensive line had thirteen or
Speaker 1: fourteen offensive lineman on scholarship. One Andrew Voorheis, a guard,
Speaker 1: was viewed as being able to play this year and
Speaker 1: eventually be draftable. So between linebacker and offensive line large
Speaker 1: important units. There were roughly twenty five athletes, one pro
Speaker 1: and one potential pro. That's what they inherited and the
Speaker 1: transfer portal. Yes, USC got Jordan Addison and Caleb Williams
Speaker 1: from it, but most players that enter the portal are
Speaker 1: not playing enough for their liking. That's why they enter
Speaker 1: the portal. They're not starting, or they're being phased out,
Speaker 1: or they're being replaced at their program. So you can
Speaker 1: improve your team through the transfer portal, especially if you
Speaker 1: get a great quarterback or a star receiver. But I
Speaker 1: would say a majority ninety percent of players that enter
Speaker 1: the transfer portal are not worth half a point in
Speaker 1: a college football game. We have to be realistic. What
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley inherited was a mess. They didn't believe. They
Speaker 1: didn't say it publicly, but a third of the players
Speaker 1: on this team last year were not really packed twelve
Speaker 1: football players. They weren't. They weren't packed twelve football players
Speaker 1: maybe at the eleventh and twelfth programs, but they were
Speaker 1: Divisioned one players. But they weren't viewed as people who
Speaker 1: should be anywhere near a top ten fifteen program. Lincoln
Speaker 1: Riley inherited a mess. He solved the offense in one
Speaker 1: off season. My guests, it'll take him an entire second
Speaker 1: off season to at least solve most of the defensive issues.
Speaker 1: The defense will be better next year. Let's get to Nick, right,
Speaker 1: all right, my buddy Nick right, Um. We haven't talked
Speaker 1: to Nick in a couple of months. He's really busy.
Speaker 1: First things first is a smash hit. It's crushing. You know,
Speaker 1: it's funny, Nick, Thank you, buddy. You know, the show's
Speaker 1: so successful. I've really nicely decorated my house with all
Speaker 1: these you know, we get ratings bonuses. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: just wealth, just hitting me in the face. But your
Speaker 1: producers won't let me show it off. They said, I
Speaker 1: have to turn off all the lights. They said, you're
Speaker 1: you're you're shaming Colin Coward. Collin's doing this from a
Speaker 1: closet and you know, somewhere and I assumed the Upper
Speaker 1: Valley in Los Angeles, and I've got this palatial estate.
Speaker 1: I can't show it all. That's fine. Maybe at the
Speaker 1: end of the pod I'll get up and so people
Speaker 1: can see what a beautiful scene I have behind me.
Speaker 1: But go ahead. Sorry, the um, you know, I was
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this because we don't get you
Speaker 1: much anymore. And I do want to touch on the
Speaker 1: Damar Hamlin situation. We're all praying for the young kid.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a huge life ahead of him.
Speaker 1: He's a wonderful guy. You can see the outpouring of
Speaker 1: affection for him, right. But I'm in the media sometimes,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I'm not of the media. They
Speaker 1: always say that about Austin, Texas. It's in Texas, it's
Speaker 1: not of Texas. I've never heard that, but I like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm in Park City, Utah, in Utah. It's not of Utah.
Speaker 1: We drink there in party. Okay. So the reason podcasting
Speaker 1: is easier than broadcasting is because it's not live, and
Speaker 1: the reason broadway is harder than a film is because
Speaker 1: it is live. Ye, And the NFL business is not
Speaker 1: only live, it's televised. And I'm not going to pick
Speaker 1: it apart for how they canceled the game. They had
Speaker 1: first responders that saved his life. I listen, you and
Speaker 1: I don't have the exact same politics. We have similar
Speaker 1: politics on a lot of things, and then on certain things,
Speaker 1: I'm basically left of linen and so you're you know,
Speaker 1: so on those things we diverge a bit, but that
Speaker 1: and I don't know if this is political or not,
Speaker 1: but it strikes me as a little political, the idea
Speaker 1: that the NFL by definition must be the boogeyman here.
Speaker 1: So there is the logistics of what happened. So I
Speaker 1: was actually listening to a great radio show in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: It's on a rock radio station. But the friends of
Speaker 1: mine have done it for twenty years, called the Churchilaslow,
Speaker 1: and they've put on a lot of concerts, and they
Speaker 1: were talking about this and what Laslow, the host of
Speaker 1: it said. He was like, because he also thought the
Speaker 1: NFL being criticized for not instantly saying game off. He
Speaker 1: was like, there's nobody realized there's seventy thousand people there
Speaker 1: and that there is someone that has to make sure. Hey,
Speaker 1: how we all of these people don't know the exact
Speaker 1: circumstance on the field. They're not watching the broadcast the
Speaker 1: inner you know what I mean. A lot of people
Speaker 1: the internet doesn't work great in stadiums. They know a
Speaker 1: player is hurt, and if all of a sudden it
Speaker 1: is just announced game canceled, don't you think they have
Speaker 1: a little concern of wait, are people going to get
Speaker 1: out of here safely? Are people? So even if they
Speaker 1: had measures ready for that, there's a lot of layers
Speaker 1: it has to go through. And the idea that and
Speaker 1: I listen, you know Joe Buck really well, I know
Speaker 1: him a little bit. I am not doubting that Joe
Speaker 1: Buck was told, hey, the players have been you know,
Speaker 1: it's five minutes. But to me, unless you are trying
Speaker 1: to find a reason to say bleep you NFL, the
Speaker 1: reason the five minutes thing happened is it has written
Speaker 1: some were on a piece of paper. That's right. If
Speaker 1: there is a some type of on field incident and
Speaker 1: the delay is so long, you are allowed to have
Speaker 1: five minutes to get back warm. And so when someone's like,
Speaker 1: so what do we do here, somebody said, well, I
Speaker 1: guess I guess they think that five minutes. But that
Speaker 1: was never gonna be five minutes and it was never
Speaker 1: gonna be played again, and the it was and I
Speaker 1: think smart people knew that, but they like to blame someone.
Speaker 1: So now that's what I think happened. Now here's my
Speaker 1: maybe two deep thoughts on it. Because we saw people
Speaker 1: get mad at the NFL. We saw people get mad
Speaker 1: at tweets. We saw people get mad in tragedy, people
Speaker 1: search for a villain when often there isn't one. Often
Speaker 1: it's just shit. That was awful, and I hate that
Speaker 1: it happened. Furthermore, I I think lashing out at people
Speaker 1: who prevents people from having to do the moments of
Speaker 1: introspection of all Right, so if this is no one's
Speaker 1: fault and this is just the potential cost of football, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh boy, what does that say about me? Who bases
Speaker 1: my entire weekend around football? What does that say about me?
Speaker 1: That's a hard That's like a hard moral question. Am
Speaker 1: I morally complicit in that? That's like a you know,
Speaker 1: we need a philosophic philosopher to talk us through it.
Speaker 1: You know what's easier? These fucking guys don't care about
Speaker 1: the players. Give me a break, Like, give me a break.
Speaker 1: And I'm not acting like the NFL is has always
Speaker 1: put players safety first. They clearly haven't. And I'm not
Speaker 1: an apologist for the league, but I'm gonna say one
Speaker 1: other thing. I don't even know if they can cancel
Speaker 1: the game immediately without talking players union. I think there
Speaker 1: has to be a lot of phone calls that happened
Speaker 1: or something like that can be done. So I wasn't
Speaker 1: looking for a villain here. I just and and it
Speaker 1: is people rallied in the end and have done an
Speaker 1: amazing thing and the go fund me. But I wish
Speaker 1: it was more natural instead of searching for a villain.
Speaker 1: It would have been just as easy to say, oh
Speaker 1: my god, what a remarkable job by the people who
Speaker 1: recognized in seconds his heart stopped, knew what to do,
Speaker 1: unscrewed the face mask, Zach gave him the defiberlation, CPR,
Speaker 1: all of it. And if you did want to be
Speaker 1: an NFL apologist, you know what you'd say, Hey, they
Speaker 1: have like they evidently have a protocol in place for
Speaker 1: what to do if a player's heart stops, even though
Speaker 1: in my entire life watching football, they've never had to
Speaker 1: use it. And it was executed perfectly, Like I don't
Speaker 1: know that's the So I don't know if that's the
Speaker 1: right answer, but that's you and I agree on this one. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I think I even I try to personalize stories and
Speaker 1: say what would I have done? Or Since I've started
Speaker 1: the volume, we're up to about thirty employees, and one
Speaker 1: of our rules is, let's just get it right. Whatever
Speaker 1: the process is, let's just get it right. And so
Speaker 1: we don't get too precious on the process. As you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been doing this for thirty years. What
Speaker 1: we do is small compared to like pro football. But
Speaker 1: over the course of sometimes you know, you do things
Speaker 1: in your marriage, on your show, with your kids, in parenting,
Speaker 1: and you come to conclusions in crisis and argument a
Speaker 1: school issue. How can I just get this right right?
Speaker 1: How can I morally get it right? How can I
Speaker 1: get the decision right? Is? Things are sloppy, you know,
Speaker 1: things are Listen, man, When I watched there's a lot
Speaker 1: I didn't know about childbirth, and then I watched it live,
Speaker 1: I was like, I really like the final result. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that I can do without.
Speaker 1: Can I just come in after it's delivered next time?
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Speaker 1: about There's two coaches in football that I think bother
Speaker 1: the media, but Jesus they're good. Brian Kelly has won
Speaker 1: everywhere instantly. He had a terrible incident at Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: A young man died. He is gruff, he turns purple
Speaker 1: when he's screaming at players. And Jim hark does a
Speaker 1: really really crummy cagn accent out of nowhere, but go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Jim Harbaugh. And because Jim Harbaw, I think he's
Speaker 1: on the spectrum and he's awkward and he doesn't really
Speaker 1: need the media. I think I get along with people.
Speaker 1: I struggle with him. People don't understand it. Harbor went
Speaker 1: forty four, nineteen and one in a division with arguably
Speaker 1: the mo talented team in football in twenty years, the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: The Seahawks won six games and went to three straight
Speaker 1: NFC Championship games with Alex Smith and Cap as the quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and Cap had a nice moment. The Cap wasn't a
Speaker 1: blue Chipper. Alex Smith was considered a bust and immediately
Speaker 1: contended for championships and contended at Stanford and turned Michigan
Speaker 1: into a contender. Yeah, so I thought about this. You know,
Speaker 1: when we do a show, I have opinions, but sometimes
Speaker 1: I'll sleep on it. Is that in college the NIL
Speaker 1: has actually helped coaches because it used to be you
Speaker 1: were felt guilty for making money because players weren't. Now
Speaker 1: a quarterback at USC can make five million. Nobody talks
Speaker 1: about coaches salaries, but a lot of these situations at
Speaker 1: Michigan you do feel like your salaries published. You're the
Speaker 1: highest paid state employee at eight million. Or you go
Speaker 1: to the NFL make eighteen and nobody cares. Now you
Speaker 1: get fired sooner, but nobody cares. Is that? I think
Speaker 1: to myself, I wouldn't I wouldn't leave Michigan. But I
Speaker 1: do wonder now once the players get paid, the downside,
Speaker 1: because I'm for the players getting paid, but the downside is,
Speaker 1: well shit, if I'm gonna have my players paid and
Speaker 1: they're gonna transfer any time. I'd rather just be a
Speaker 1: pro coach and make twice the money and not deal
Speaker 1: with the NC double A and we're gonna lose a
Speaker 1: lot of these great coaches and not have to deal
Speaker 1: with is he academically eligible? I would listen. I think
Speaker 1: some people love recruiting. I think I would hate it.
Speaker 1: I think the grind of the travel, plus there has
Speaker 1: to be an element of and I don't want to
Speaker 1: sound like an old man. And again, some coaches love it,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's why they're coaches, because they love that thing.
Speaker 1: But of like trying to convince a seventeen year old to,
Speaker 1: you know, date you essentially, that seems again, I don't
Speaker 1: think i'd love it. I don't think it'd be like
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Like, well, I got a fly
Speaker 1: to Baton Rouge because this seventeen year old kid that
Speaker 1: I thought was going to come play for me, now
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go play for Texas, So I
Speaker 1: have to explain I have to win over him, his
Speaker 1: mom and his dad like that. So I would far
Speaker 1: prefer pro coaching, where you're dealing with with grown ups.
Speaker 1: You only have to worry about the football part, and
Speaker 1: you don't have to convince twenty twenty five new guys
Speaker 1: every single year to come play for you. What is
Speaker 1: interesting to me is it does seem like the money
Speaker 1: in certain instances college you know, I mean, you tell
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. Colin in certain instance seemed like
Speaker 1: the money's bigger in college football. So like did melt Tucker,
Speaker 1: Who's what not one of the fifteen best coaches got
Speaker 1: ninety million dollars? Like knowing that very few NFL coaches
Speaker 1: have that. So I think for certain guys, college is
Speaker 1: a better deal. Hardball. Here's the thing I want to
Speaker 1: say about Hardball, because I I think Hardball is a
Speaker 1: great coach, a great coach. And I made the point
Speaker 1: on your show five years ago when I was filling
Speaker 1: in for you, and then I made it again the
Speaker 1: other day that he has an argument that if the
Speaker 1: question is I need someone to coach my football team,
Speaker 1: but I won't tell you if it's college or pro,
Speaker 1: he should be the number one draft pick because you
Speaker 1: can say, well, I'll take Belichick. Well what if he's
Speaker 1: it's Alabama? Like, well, you know what I mean? Okay,
Speaker 1: No, no no, no, I'll take Saban, Well, what if it's
Speaker 1: the Jets, Like Hardball has a proof of concept at
Speaker 1: both levels instantly good, So I think he's a great coach.
Speaker 1: The one thing I think the media is getting wrong
Speaker 1: with the Hardball story is this they're like, oh, the
Speaker 1: new owners of the Broncos, they're the Walton family. They've
Speaker 1: got seventy billion dollars. When it comes to coach salaries,
Speaker 1: the difference between seventy billion net worth and seven billion
Speaker 1: network is irrelevant. Well, the coach salaries, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they can pay him twenty million a year, so can
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the owners, Like, as long as you've
Speaker 1: got more than a billion, you can pay the coach anything.
Speaker 1: So the idea that the dit Broncos have this leg
Speaker 1: up because their owners are so rich, I think people
Speaker 1: have it wrong. I don't think it's the three richest
Speaker 1: NFL owners have an advantage. I think it's the four
Speaker 1: NFL owners that don't have real money are at a
Speaker 1: huge disadvantage. So whether I think those teams are at
Speaker 1: a real disadvantage, but I think I think every I
Speaker 1: think eighty percent of the teams could hire a twenty
Speaker 1: million dollars a year coach on a four year deal,
Speaker 1: fire him and do that five consecutive cycles and have
Speaker 1: four hundred million of dead coach money and it doesn't
Speaker 1: affect their bottom line at all because they are multi
Speaker 1: or Decca billionaires. I think there's a few teams, whether
Speaker 1: it's the Cardinals, the Raiders, whomever, where it's like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: do they have to keep the coach because they can't
Speaker 1: afford to pay the buyout? A couple NBA topics. So
Speaker 1: I try to watch half an NBA game every night
Speaker 1: in the treadmill. I love it, so that's my goal.
Speaker 1: So I get on the treadmill and I watch half
Speaker 1: an NBA game, usually like an East Coast game. So
Speaker 1: I watched Brooklyn and they're playing really well. And this
Speaker 1: is where I tend to be in my career. I
Speaker 1: do football heavy, Super Bowl ends, I go skiing, or
Speaker 1: I go to Mexico, come back, and then I'm totally
Speaker 1: into the NBA, NFL Draft, NFL free agency, but I'm
Speaker 1: an NBA fan and I kind of block it off.
Speaker 1: I do Labor Day to February tenth as NFL see
Speaker 1: it's so funny. I'm this just real quip where you
Speaker 1: get to your question. I know people kind of perceive
Speaker 1: me as an NBA guy because I'm like the Lebron guy,
Speaker 1: but I'm the exact same one. So I might watch
Speaker 1: a little bit more because of the coast I'm on,
Speaker 1: and I have met season tickets, so I go to
Speaker 1: some games and do that. But as far as the
Speaker 1: media I consume, I listened to a lot of podcasts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't listen to any NBA podcasts right now, I'm
Speaker 1: not reading it like I am. It's to me, this
Speaker 1: is it. Football season is football season with a few
Speaker 1: big time NBA games mixed in, and then the moment
Speaker 1: I get back from vacation, it is nothing but hoops
Speaker 1: for the next four months, and then go on another
Speaker 1: vacation and then we're in the NFL again, And this
Speaker 1: is just like the cycle that yeah, but go ahead,
Speaker 1: but go ahead. So one of the reasons I don't
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people in our profession,
Speaker 1: especially NBA people that they watch this early season stuff
Speaker 1: and I always kind of think time out. I mean,
Speaker 1: last two nights ago, the Celtics gave up one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty points to the thunder player without Saya, so
Speaker 1: it's it's not even some teams are arrested, are exhausted.
Speaker 1: Who'd you play the night before? It's like the San
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. Everybody that plays them the next
Speaker 1: week or two fourteen. So in the NBA, if you play,
Speaker 1: you know, if you play the Celtics the night before
Speaker 1: and they're arm wrestling you and playing defense the next night,
Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna play well after. So I watched
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets, and here's my takeaway on them. They're
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Sun Steve Nash team. They are totally built
Speaker 1: for the regular season. You come in light rest, the
Speaker 1: guys come in after shoot around, they get thirty minutes
Speaker 1: of film putting their shoes on, they watch them, and
Speaker 1: then you got to face Kyrie and Durant and Simmons
Speaker 1: and it's a hard matchup. You put them in a
Speaker 1: series and I can go at Kyrie six times defensively
Speaker 1: where he won't play. I can put Simmons on the
Speaker 1: foul line in any big spot. That Brooklyn is tough
Speaker 1: with little prep, infinitely beat able. With with that, I
Speaker 1: agree with that. I think that's a smart take and
Speaker 1: but they also I will give them credit listen, since
Speaker 1: Kyrie came back, they're eighteen and three. They're also one
Speaker 1: game in December. Here are I got three potential issues
Speaker 1: with Brooklyn. The first one is Kyrie's you know, you
Speaker 1: ever been to like a construction site and they have
Speaker 1: that little thing that the days without an incident, and
Speaker 1: every day it ticks up. It's like forty six, forty seven.
Speaker 1: We are approaching the most Kyrie days without an incident
Speaker 1: we've had in about six years, which means that some
Speaker 1: bitch might be going back to zero any moment. Now.
Speaker 1: There there's a chance I think is getting reset. So
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, Kyrie's on his best behavior, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's been six weeks and that's good, but
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not booking that as the norm. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the first thing. Yeah. The second thing is this
Speaker 1: and this is a good thing and a bad thing.
Speaker 1: Then Durant is playing some some from an offensive perspective. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some of the best basketball in league history right now.
Speaker 1: So I put a thing on the TV show yesterday
Speaker 1: where NBA dot Com will break the court down into zones,
Speaker 1: like not just quadrants, but like there's like eighteen of
Speaker 1: them as far as where you take your shots from
Speaker 1: right and red. If the color beneath you is red,
Speaker 1: it means you're below average. If it's the color of
Speaker 1: the court, it means you are average, and if it's green,
Speaker 1: it means you're above average. On those eighteen zones, Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant had fifteen green, two Beijian, one red. The one
Speaker 1: that was ready. He has taken two shots from that area.
Speaker 1: I think he'll probably make the next one. It'll turn
Speaker 1: beijior green and another one he'd only taken five shots.
Speaker 1: So he is from every scoring zone on the court
Speaker 1: well above average, every single one. And I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: is this true for all the great players? Nope, I
Speaker 1: look Steph, it's like half of him. He has his spots,
Speaker 1: Lebron it's like a third of them. But he's killing
Speaker 1: you at the rim, Luke, it's the Durant is great
Speaker 1: everywhere and he is taking tough shots. So the good
Speaker 1: thing is he's an amazing player. The bad thing is
Speaker 1: they need him to continue a level of offensive efficiency
Speaker 1: that would make Prime Jordan blush as far as what
Speaker 1: he's doing in the mid range and all of that.
Speaker 1: And the last thing is what you said, which is
Speaker 1: the Ben Simmons in the playoffs part of this. No
Speaker 1: one is talking about it and no one is thinking
Speaker 1: about but it is a major concern. I want to
Speaker 1: say one other NBA thing to you, because Jannis in
Speaker 1: his last seven is averaging forty and the other night
Speaker 1: at fifty five and the Bucks are a game out
Speaker 1: of first place. Yeah, so here is why. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: Jannis and Luca have shown beyond a shadow of a
Speaker 1: doubt they are the two best players in the league.
Speaker 1: Yannis won, Luca two. Every other great player in this
Speaker 1: league either this year in the last few years, if
Speaker 1: their second best guy isn't there, the team struggles to
Speaker 1: win half its games. Lebron lost ad team can't win
Speaker 1: half its games. Steph a couple of years ago didn't
Speaker 1: have Clay, they missed the playoffs. Yokich last year didn't
Speaker 1: have Jamal Murray. They're the sixth seat. Durant this year
Speaker 1: Kyrie was going when he was going to sabbatical. There's
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. They're they're dead in
Speaker 1: the water. Luca last year, Dinna have a second best
Speaker 1: player whole second half of the season, playoff run. It's
Speaker 1: like Okay, I'll just take us to the conference finals.
Speaker 1: Jannis hasn't had Middleton all year. He's played seven games,
Speaker 1: and seven games he played didn't play well because he's
Speaker 1: still hurt. And they're a game out of first. That is,
Speaker 1: those two guys are at a different level. The our
Speaker 1: teams can beat contenders even without our second best guy,
Speaker 1: And if you give me our second best guy, we'll
Speaker 1: probably win the whole damn thing everyone else no matter
Speaker 1: how great they are. And I threw Lebron in there too,
Speaker 1: because he's still unbelievable. They need their full cast of characters,
Speaker 1: not to win any games, but to contend. The Bucks
Speaker 1: can contend based on the power of Jannis alone, and
Speaker 1: I think the MAVs are showing they can do that
Speaker 1: with Luca too very good. What do you make a
Speaker 1: year less than you, buddy? It's really what do you
Speaker 1: make of the offensive explosion in the last two weeks?
Speaker 1: I can tend. I would say every season has what
Speaker 1: they call the dog days, and I think after Christmas
Speaker 1: there's a three week lull when you're still experimenting with
Speaker 1: some defensive rotations. You're not here the trading deadlines, you're
Speaker 1: not showing off people, yet you're giving certain players rest,
Speaker 1: and so we're in The dog days are not the
Speaker 1: end of the regular season because seeding really matters. It's
Speaker 1: not right up to the trading deadline because you're trying
Speaker 1: to show off certain people to move them. These are
Speaker 1: actually even though the season only starts in October, the
Speaker 1: dog days are like the day after Christmas until like
Speaker 1: January fifth to tenth, and that nobody's playing defense right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I listen. I think that's part of it. So
Speaker 1: I'm really glad you asked me this. I'm really glad,
Speaker 1: and I have a much probably longer answer than you anticipated.
Speaker 1: But I think you're like good. So here. So the
Speaker 1: NBA right now, it's one hundred and thirteen points per
Speaker 1: game is the league average. It's the highest it's been
Speaker 1: in a very long time. Some context though, other than
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. In the last fifty the
Speaker 1: highest scoring year was nineteen eighty five. Everyone's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, defense was so hard and they punched in
Speaker 1: the face. It was one eleven per game in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty five. The only time it was pre nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: five higher than this was the early sixties. This is
Speaker 1: a sidebar, but I think you'll like this. Nineteen sixty two,
Speaker 1: the NBA average one hundred and eighteen points per game.
Speaker 1: That was one hundred eighteen in nineteen sixty two. So
Speaker 1: whenever what else happened in nineteen sixty two, well will
Speaker 1: average fifty a game. Oscar Averager triple double your guy,
Speaker 1: Dragonfly Jones. Part of the volume pointed this out. Elgin
Speaker 1: Baylor averaged thirty eight and eighteen, but he only played
Speaker 1: forty eight games. Colin. He only played forty eight games
Speaker 1: because Elgin got called up as an army reservist and
Speaker 1: could only play for the Lakers when he was on
Speaker 1: weekend leave, and he took coach flights and then dropped
Speaker 1: thirty eight a night on folks and then had a
Speaker 1: sixty one point finals game. Okay, So why do I
Speaker 1: bring all that up? Sixty two when all these crazy
Speaker 1: records were set, different game. They're playing the in breakneck
Speaker 1: pace and no one can make shots, so it's just
Speaker 1: shoot miss, you get a rebound, shoot miss, get a rebound. Okay,
Speaker 1: So throw those records out. Nineteen eighty five, why would
Speaker 1: that be so high? Scoring? Wasn't three point line? It
Speaker 1: had been invented, but people barely shot it. Well, the
Speaker 1: ABA folded, the NBA hadn't fully expanded, and you had
Speaker 1: a massive talent. There's too many good players, too many
Speaker 1: good players. Then what happens late eighties, NBA expands, early nineties,
Speaker 1: it expands again, and all of a sudden, NBA Finals
Speaker 1: games are eighty five eighty three, and you look around
Speaker 1: and you watch the Bulls jazz and it's like, that's
Speaker 1: Jeff Foster and Jeff Hornet check and I don't want
Speaker 1: to just say white guys here, but it was a
Speaker 1: lot like it's and it's not. But people don't want
Speaker 1: to say that because so much of the NBA is
Speaker 1: rapp in, like the Jordan legacy. They're like, no, the
Speaker 1: nineties were great, No, they weren't. So now we go here.
Speaker 1: Three point line huge part to do with it, undeniable.
Speaker 1: People are taking a bazillion threes. Here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: Right now, if someone were to say the three best
Speaker 1: players in the NBA are Yannis Luca Yokich, well that's interesting.
Speaker 1: So now we're getting guys from Greece via Nigeria, Slovenia
Speaker 1: and Serbia. Yannis the other night he crossed up Chris
Speaker 1: STAPs and got to the rim. I'm like, okay, that's
Speaker 1: a seven foot four inch lot Vian trying to guard
Speaker 1: a seven foot Nigerian Greek kid out on the perimeter.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this because it helps my Lebron goat argument.
Speaker 1: I'm saying it because it's obvious. The players are packed,
Speaker 1: are way better, and you have the entire world to
Speaker 1: choose from, and so yeah, the defense isn't is physical,
Speaker 1: but the game is smarter that people understand it better.
Speaker 1: They understand where the efficient shots are. The three point
Speaker 1: shot has proliferated. We're about to bring over a seven
Speaker 1: foot one inch French alien who's shooting step back one
Speaker 1: foot threes. Like, guys, it's just better. And it's not
Speaker 1: to me a coincidence that you go back to the
Speaker 1: mid eighties there was a scoring explosion. It's like you
Speaker 1: have oh my god, you have magic. You have Larry,
Speaker 1: the Aba is folded, you have Jordan come in, you
Speaker 1: have all these great players come in, and there were
Speaker 1: every team like all the great teams have like four
Speaker 1: Hall of famers, And so that's my answer. So yes,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think the what I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting because your point is the scoring
Speaker 1: will go down a bit. You know, once teams care
Speaker 1: more well, right now it's at one thirteen and in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five one to eleven. So if it goes
Speaker 1: down just a little bit, we're gonna be scoring at
Speaker 1: the same rate as they did in the mid eighties.
Speaker 1: And there's you know, there's that's gonna be hard for
Speaker 1: people to reconcile, but that's why things happening. I also
Speaker 1: think here's the other thing. Because there have been a
Speaker 1: ton of fifty point games, but they've all been by stars.
Speaker 1: It would be concerning to me, concerning the wrong word,
Speaker 1: but more noteworthy to me if it was I don't
Speaker 1: know if you remember this guy, Tony Delk, he played
Speaker 1: it for a long time. Yeah, he once had a
Speaker 1: fifty point NBA game, and he's kind of known as
Speaker 1: like the worst player to score fifty. That sounds shitty,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. Yea, if a lot
Speaker 1: of average guys were dropping fifty, I'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: these numbers don't mean as much. But it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: MBI dropped fifty, and Booker and Donovan Mitchell dropped seventies.
Speaker 1: A lot. I'm not gonna lie that was a lot,
Speaker 1: but it was also he had fifty eight at the
Speaker 1: end of regulation and then when all honest, it's the
Speaker 1: best players in the league dropping fifties, So that kind
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Speaker 1: Amazons of the world and the Apples of the world,
Speaker 1: to elevate society artificial intelligence, have the money take big
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Speaker 1: I've been doing this long time. I've very large audience
Speaker 1: audio whatever. I never ever believe I'm the gatekeeper of
Speaker 1: any industry. I'm not going to tell people how to
Speaker 1: broadcast skip you. It doesn't matter, Max Kellerman, stephen A. Smith.
Speaker 1: We all have different styles. I'm a believer and lean
Speaker 1: into you. Whatever you is, do more you. But I
Speaker 1: like occasionally and I believe in this strongly throwing out
Speaker 1: a theory that could be absurd because I don't want
Speaker 1: talk show host to feel they're trapped. I think I
Speaker 1: owe it in a weird way. I see myself as
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get fired for a crazy take.
Speaker 1: Who cares if anybody rips me. I have a huge
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Speaker 1: got it? Okay. So Mike Vrabel played with Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: He is absolutely one of the smartest coaches in the league.
Speaker 1: He knows the importance of the position, and he's now
Speaker 1: in a conference where Trevor Lawrence looks like a top
Speaker 1: five quarterback. He's in a conference with Mahomes and Allan
Speaker 1: and Burrow and Herbert and Trevor Lawrence, all the good
Speaker 1: young guys are in his way, and Bryce Young's about
Speaker 1: to be there. That's right. And Vrabel is going to
Speaker 1: get on the phone after this season because there's no
Speaker 1: dead cap hit for Tannehill and he's gonna say, Aaron,
Speaker 1: get the f down here. Oh it's Nashville. I thought
Speaker 1: you're gonna say he's gonna try to sighting Tom No
Speaker 1: because you said he was friends with Tom. Aaron, So
Speaker 1: he's gonna say, Aaron, he's gonna play to his vanity, Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert,
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, I need you. He understands quarterback. Aaron's never
Speaker 1: had great defenses in green Bay. The one year he did,
Speaker 1: they want it, so green Bay simultaneously would take a hit.
Speaker 1: But because they're not paying Jordan Love and they could
Speaker 1: afford it, they can't afford to cut him, but they
Speaker 1: can trade it. They can't trade him and it doesn't
Speaker 1: kill him, and they look at their division. Goss's not
Speaker 1: a superstar. Cousins has limitations, Justin Fields has a defensive
Speaker 1: coach and a dysfunctional organization, and they're like, screw it,
Speaker 1: let's give it a run. For two years, we found
Speaker 1: our two receivers. By the way, the cap hit isn't
Speaker 1: his punitive that My hot take is Rabel's going to
Speaker 1: get on the phone and try really hard to convince
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay's gonna say christ were walking
Speaker 1: on eggshells for twelve years. Here Listen, I don't think
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Further, I thought you were gonna say Brady's
Speaker 1: gonna go there, and I was only gonna say that's
Speaker 1: crazy because I don't think Tom Brady's moving to Nashville.
Speaker 1: And again, I'm from Kansas City. I'm not taking a
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Speaker 1: in this whole scenario. No, but in the No, what
Speaker 1: you are doing is you are saying people that have
Speaker 1: the ability to take big swings in any industry should
Speaker 1: do it. So I you I in the in the
Speaker 1: ecosystem of sports broadcasting, I don't know, I don't know who.
Speaker 1: If you're not Apple or Amazon, I don't know who
Speaker 1: is there. You know, whatever it is, that's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 1: It we're listen. By the way, there's forty minutes into
Speaker 1: a Nick Wright Colin Coward podcast. The people are still listening.
Speaker 1: Either really love one of us or really hate one
Speaker 1: of us. So don't eyth matter? So the but um so,
Speaker 1: the Roger thing I'm gonna I hadn't thought about him
Speaker 1: with Tennessee, here's what I do think. And Packer fans
Speaker 1: are killing me for this. But I said after they
Speaker 1: went four and eight and Aaron had the broken thumb,
Speaker 1: that they should start playing Jordan Love. And now they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: look at us now, and the answers really look at you.
Speaker 1: Now what am I looking at? Like the it'd be
Speaker 1: one thing if you were on this four game winning
Speaker 1: streak because Rogers is lighting it up. On the four
Speaker 1: game winning streak column, Rogers has four touchdown passes, he
Speaker 1: has an eighty seven rating. They are averaging less than
Speaker 1: two hundred passing yards per game. They're on the four
Speaker 1: game winning streak because they have fourced twelve turnovers in
Speaker 1: four games. They have two defensive touchdowns two. Uh we
Speaker 1: now know was you know? I was dealing with a
Speaker 1: serious injury and melted down. They played they give me
Speaker 1: a break. I said, you gotta play love, and it's
Speaker 1: not necessarily punting on this season, but whatever, you've got
Speaker 1: to play love. And the reason you gotta play love
Speaker 1: is the question I asked was, are you still in
Speaker 1: the super Bowl business in Green Bay? Because if you are,
Speaker 1: you're not winning it this year. And what you need
Speaker 1: to do is figure out can the kid play and
Speaker 1: if he can play a little bit, But you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's not ready yet. Guess what. If you're still in
Speaker 1: the super Bowl business and you're keeping Aaron Rodgers, someone
Speaker 1: will trade your draft pick for him. You can use
Speaker 1: that to help next year's team because this team is
Speaker 1: not good enough if he's If you're still in the
Speaker 1: super Bowl business and he is good enough, well, guess what.
Speaker 1: Then you have the conversation of do we trade Aaron?
Speaker 1: But whatever it is, they should have used this time
Speaker 1: to get information on Jordan Love. Instead, they are going
Speaker 1: to blindly pick up his fifth year option, blindly having
Speaker 1: seen him play one game against the Chiefs terribly last
Speaker 1: year and a half a game this year. It's insane
Speaker 1: and they're not going to be able to trade him
Speaker 1: because nobody has seen him play. They're not gonna now
Speaker 1: maybe they trade Aaron, like you're saying, But the risk
Speaker 1: there is that Jordan Loves no good. Now I don't
Speaker 1: think he's no good, but it's on the board just
Speaker 1: because he hasn't played, and so I don't think the
Speaker 1: Packers have handled this right. I also don't think Aaron's
Speaker 1: made it particularly easy for them, like throughout this process.
Speaker 1: But I think the idea. You know, Mark Schlayret came
Speaker 1: on my show and I said, no, what even my show.
Speaker 1: It was the day I was filling in for you.
Speaker 1: He came on your show, but I was talking to
Speaker 1: him and I set made the point that I thought
Speaker 1: the Packers should have played Love because they have to
Speaker 1: decide his fifth year option. And he said he believes
Speaker 1: they have already decided that they are picking it up.
Speaker 1: And he didn't say he was told this. I don't
Speaker 1: want to misquote stink. He said he thinks his theory
Speaker 1: is that they're moving on from Aaron, that they've seen
Speaker 1: enough from Love that that the reason they didn't play
Speaker 1: him in this spot is because they knew this was
Speaker 1: Aaron the end. They were gonna let Aaron get his
Speaker 1: final run and see what happens. But it's an interesting
Speaker 1: situation they have found themselves in. Can I ask you
Speaker 1: one question before we go? Sure, everyone is saying the
Speaker 1: NFC's wide open. The NFC has no juggernaut. Why are
Speaker 1: the Niners not a juggernaut? They feel like a juggernaut
Speaker 1: to me, man, how about this? So today a buddy
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Speaker 1: And he said, for all those questioning brock Purty, he
Speaker 1: goes Matt Campbell will be one of the finalists for
Speaker 1: the Michigan job if Harball leaves. He's viewed as a
Speaker 1: super sharp coach, he said. During brock Purdy's run, in
Speaker 1: the four years as a starter at Iowa State, they
Speaker 1: were thirty and seventeen, twenty five and ten in the
Speaker 1: Big Twelve, and seven and ten record against ranked opponents.
Speaker 1: Now that's not worthy. This is Iowa State this year
Speaker 1: with Matt Campbell four and eight, one in eight in
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Speaker 1: Do we have Tony Romo Kurt Warner on our hands,
Speaker 1: a great player that was undervaluated. Yea under evaluated short
Speaker 1: under evaluated. Yeah, here's the thing. But I guess my
Speaker 1: point is, even if he's not a great player, the
Speaker 1: Niners won a game this year started by Trey Lanes.
Speaker 1: They won a bunch of games started by Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker 1: They're now undefeated with games started by Rock Purty. Sometimes
Speaker 1: a team is not reliant on the quarterback, and it
Speaker 1: would seem to be a team that has Nicky Bosa,
Speaker 1: Eric Armstead, an amazing defensive coordinator, that Hafonga who looks
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Speaker 1: have the best left tackle in football, maybe the best
Speaker 1: running back in football, the second best tight end, two
Speaker 1: awesome wide receivers, team kicks ass Man, and now am
Speaker 1: I also kind of trying to speak into existence speaking
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Speaker 1: did my season over under Betsy. And then you can
Speaker 1: get on fan duel before the season super like you
Speaker 1: could pick an NFC winner and an AFC winner and
Speaker 1: parlay it. So just pick who's going to be in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And before the year, Chiefs Niners was
Speaker 1: fifty to one, not even a winner, not Chiefs over
Speaker 1: Niners and Niners is just the Chiefs win the AFC,
Speaker 1: Niners win, THENFCO is fifty to one. I put a
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Speaker 1: to me, with what's going on in Philly with the injuries,
Speaker 1: are the favorites in the NFC. And the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: certainly at least co favorites in the AFC, And I
Speaker 1: think the Niners. I think people are talking about the
Speaker 1: NFC like it's wide open purely because and I get it,
Speaker 1: it's not just a rookie. It's a seventh round rookie.
Speaker 1: But the kids played great. Shanahan has proven he can
Speaker 1: win in the playoffs without great quarterback play. And I
Speaker 1: think this roster is stacked, stacked, so do I. And
Speaker 1: Debo's coming back, and Debo's coming back. That's the other
Speaker 1: thing to look at. Which teams this time of year
Speaker 1: are getting healthier and which teams are getting more injured
Speaker 1: Philly is the most injured it's been all year. The Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares because it's Mahomes. He hasn't had his number
Speaker 1: one wide receiver for six weeks. They haven't had their
Speaker 1: number one running back, who's not very good, but for
Speaker 1: five weeks. Are both coming back. Like the teams, you
Speaker 1: gotta that's something you always got to watch. It's one
Speaker 1: of the things I worry about with your Bengals, Lyle Collins,
Speaker 1: like you had that offensive line continuity all year. Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins goes down, like how that is concerning to me?
Speaker 1: One last vaulting before I go. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I believe this or not, but it is into I
Speaker 1: mean believe it, it's true, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: I buy into it. The Steelers are seven and two
Speaker 1: when t J. Watt plays. Seven and two when t J.
Speaker 1: Watt plays, that's crazy. That team's got no one on offense.
Speaker 1: I know Collinsworth was falling all ons about Kinny Pickett.
Speaker 1: Dude's got hands smaller than your daughter and he's got
Speaker 1: six touchdown passes. I don't think it's superstar all right.
Speaker 1: Before we end hold on, I have to turn the
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Speaker 1: at this. I mean that's beautiful. I mean, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Oh there's too much lights from being and down. I
Speaker 1: mean we got artwork, we got Christmas trees the middle
Speaker 1: of Harlem, New York. My man living a lot, and
Speaker 1: Colin told me. Colin told me, he was like, Nick,
Speaker 1: you're gonna move to New York City. Rant don't buy.
Speaker 1: You gave me that advice. I'll say, everyone else like buy.
Speaker 1: And he's like, man, you're gonna live in New York.
Speaker 1: You're gonna live in different places. It's crazy expensive. I
Speaker 1: think Colin also knew I probably didn't have any money
Speaker 1: to buy at the time. He was trying to be
Speaker 1: nice and I haven't. It's great. I missed you. Rgeous.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna see you uh in person in Arizona.
Speaker 1: The volumes having a party. Oh really, Will I be invited?
Speaker 1: Of course? Okay, all right, that'll be great. I appreciate you, buddy.
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