1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: The Volume. It's the Colin Coward Podcast presented by Fan 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Duel Football Seasons in full gear. No better place to 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: get in on the action than Fan Duel. Fan Duel 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: App is safe, you get paid fast, a lot of 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: ways to play the spread, the money line, team totals, players, props, 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff over unders, jump into the action, 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: same game parlays are my favorite. Just use the promo 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: code Colin and download the Fan Duel app today. Well, 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: hire everybody. I'm your affable host, Colin Calhern Nick Wright 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: in ten minutes. We haven't had Nikki on for seven 11 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: eight weeks. It'll be a blast today. Good thirty forty 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: minutes with Nick Wright. Oh is enjoyable. So I thought 13 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: I would open today with some thoughts on a very 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: frightening scene with Damar Hamlin day night in Cincinnati. There's 15 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: been a lot of criticism by the media of the 16 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: NFL of not canceling the game immediately. And you know, 17 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: one of the things that I've learned running the Volume, 18 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: and the Volume we're up to about thirty employees, is 19 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: that our rule at the Volume is let's just get 20 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: it right, whatever process it takes, Let's just get it right. 21 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: Communication in this world. Some of us are in Delaware, 22 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: some of us are in Sarasota, Florida. I'm in Los Angeles. 23 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: People are all over the country, different time zones. My 24 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: staff often is doing this at one in the morning. 25 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: Why you know, it's only ten for me and I 26 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: try to think about that. Let's just get it right. 27 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: But it's not easy, right, communications not easy, And I'm 28 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: dealing with young people, good communicators, very verbal, good with tech. 29 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: So when Monday Night happened, a lot of people weren't 30 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: happy with a timeline. A lot of media people very 31 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: critical of the NFL. And if you're an actor, they say, 32 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: the greatest challenge is doing Broadway. Why because it's live. 33 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: TV films are edited. Ioways find that broadcasting is much 34 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: harder than this podcasting. Why because it's live. Business is 35 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: harder when it's live. I have known in my life 36 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: twenty five people who have worked for professional sports franchises. 37 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: An NFL game live game day is a massive, massive undertaking. 38 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: The NFL had the protocols in place that first responders 39 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: were on the scene and quite possibly saved DeMar Hamlin's life. 40 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: That's the win. The NFL called the game that's the win. 41 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to get too precious on Well, you 42 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: know the coaches. The coaches are the ones who actually 43 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: told the officials, who told the league. Well, that's okay. 44 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: Let's say it was a natural disaster. The governor of 45 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: the state can watch on television, but the governor calls 46 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: the mayor. The mayor calls the National Guard. The National 47 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: Guard leader talks to the people on the ground. They're 48 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: seeing real emotions, real fear from people in a flood 49 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: or an earthquake. They're managing from the ground up. We 50 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: do that a lot at the volume. I manage from 51 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: my employees up. They tell me what they're capable of doing. 52 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: That's what the NFL did. They leaned on their coaches 53 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: who were next to the players, listening to the players cry, 54 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: watching them sob and the coaches said, we can't play 55 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: this game. And the NFL said in New York, okay, 56 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: we're canceling the game. The people writing columns ripping the NFL. 57 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: You get three or four chances at a column. You 58 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: can have lunch during the columns, stop writing, have a 59 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: tune of sandwich, then start again. You have a copy editor. 60 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: What if your column was live and you got one 61 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: shot at it. That's why writing on Deadline. You're a 62 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 1: baseball writer, Gaymns goes twelve innings, you have to write 63 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: you have one shot. Is harder? Is that? I think 64 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: sometimes we have to realize in the media the stuff's 65 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: hard that instead of being upset in the process on 66 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: how decisions were made, we're thankful that the NFL's got 67 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: great EMTs, great first responders, very compassionate coaches and players, 68 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: and that eventually they got Monday Night right and hopefully 69 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: saved Damar Hamlin's life. Live anything is difficult. Think about 70 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: the NFL business. A big chunk of it is performed 71 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: not only live, but televised. I mean, just putting a 72 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: camera on a reality show usually ends up people getting 73 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: a divorce. Just putting a camera on couples, how many 74 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: times do you see those couples in a reality show? 75 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: Eventually they're separating. It adds stress. Live cameras go urgency. 76 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: I look at that as possibly saving a wonderful young 77 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: person's life. I'm just not going to nitpick the process. 78 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: It's very possible. The NFL, you know, they're not watching 79 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: the CPR. There's a big difference between a player going 80 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: into an ambulance or on a stretcher and seeing CPR live. 81 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: Even first responders who've gone through it hundreds of times 82 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: say that's traumatic. It's intense. You're saving somebody's life. Players 83 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: seeing that, most for the very first time. So listen. 84 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: The NFL does things I don't agree with. I don't 85 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: like a seventeenth game. I don't like the preseason. There's 86 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: an argument against Thursday night football. Those are valid arguments. 87 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: I've never liked the seventeenth game. You can't tell me 88 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: safety matters and then want your guys that deal with 89 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: sixty more punishing, punitive hits. You don't need the money, 90 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: so why are you doing it. It's greed, It's billionaire greed. 91 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: That's it. But in this instance, I think there's a 92 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: chance we saved a person's life. That's what I take 93 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: from what happened Monday night. So when Lincoln Riley took 94 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: the job at USC Oklahoma, fans made a lot of 95 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: jokes about USC's defense would be going down the tubes. Well, 96 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: it couldn't get worse than what he inherited. But Alex 97 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: Grinch is under a firestorm of criticism for losing a 98 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: huge lead in the last three to four minutes of 99 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: that game against two lane and losing. All coaches have 100 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: blind spots, and perhaps Lincoln Riley's blind spot is his 101 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: loyalty to his friend defensive coordinator Alex Grinch. In Lincoln 102 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: Riley's four bowl losses, he surrendered an average of fifty 103 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: two points. But it's also important, even in the transfer portal, 104 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: to acknowledge what Lincoln Riley inherited a four win team 105 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: with one legitimate NFL player, a second round defensive end. 106 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: I was told this by somebody close to the program 107 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: that when Lincoln Riley got there, they had about a 108 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: dozen linebackers a dozen. This is usc the late junior 109 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: Sayo played there. Clay Matthews played there lineback West Coast 110 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: linebacker you for decades, they had twelve linebackers in the program. 111 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: None were NFL linebackers. Lincoln Riley was shocked by the 112 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: lack of linebacker talent. The offensive line had thirteen or 113 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: fourteen offensive lineman on scholarship. One Andrew Voorheis, a guard, 114 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: was viewed as being able to play this year and 115 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: eventually be draftable. So between linebacker and offensive line large 116 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: important units. There were roughly twenty five athletes, one pro 117 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: and one potential pro. That's what they inherited and the 118 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: transfer portal. Yes, USC got Jordan Addison and Caleb Williams 119 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: from it, but most players that enter the portal are 120 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: not playing enough for their liking. That's why they enter 121 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: the portal. They're not starting, or they're being phased out, 122 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: or they're being replaced at their program. So you can 123 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: improve your team through the transfer portal, especially if you 124 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: get a great quarterback or a star receiver. But I 125 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: would say a majority ninety percent of players that enter 126 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: the transfer portal are not worth half a point in 127 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: a college football game. We have to be realistic. What 128 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley inherited was a mess. They didn't believe. They 129 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: didn't say it publicly, but a third of the players 130 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: on this team last year were not really packed twelve 131 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: football players. They weren't. They weren't packed twelve football players 132 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: maybe at the eleventh and twelfth programs, but they were 133 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: Divisioned one players. But they weren't viewed as people who 134 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: should be anywhere near a top ten fifteen program. Lincoln 135 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: Riley inherited a mess. He solved the offense in one 136 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: off season. My guests, it'll take him an entire second 137 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: off season to at least solve most of the defensive issues. 138 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: The defense will be better next year. Let's get to Nick, right, 139 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: all right, my buddy Nick right, Um. We haven't talked 140 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: to Nick in a couple of months. He's really busy. 141 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: First things first is a smash hit. It's crushing. You know, 142 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: it's funny, Nick, Thank you, buddy. You know, the show's 143 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: so successful. I've really nicely decorated my house with all 144 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: these you know, we get ratings bonuses. Yeah, I mean, 145 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: just wealth, just hitting me in the face. But your 146 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: producers won't let me show it off. They said, I 147 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: have to turn off all the lights. They said, you're 148 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 1: you're you're shaming Colin Coward. Collin's doing this from a 149 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: closet and you know, somewhere and I assumed the Upper 150 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: Valley in Los Angeles, and I've got this palatial estate. 151 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: I can't show it all. That's fine. Maybe at the 152 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: end of the pod I'll get up and so people 153 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: can see what a beautiful scene I have behind me. 154 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: But go ahead. Sorry, the um, you know, I was 155 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this because we don't get you 156 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: much anymore. And I do want to touch on the 157 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: Damar Hamlin situation. We're all praying for the young kid. 158 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a huge life ahead of him. 159 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: He's a wonderful guy. You can see the outpouring of 160 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: affection for him, right. But I'm in the media sometimes, 161 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: but I feel like I'm not of the media. They 162 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: always say that about Austin, Texas. It's in Texas, it's 163 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: not of Texas. I've never heard that, but I like that. Yeah, 164 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm in Park City, Utah, in Utah. It's not of Utah. 165 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: We drink there in party. Okay. So the reason podcasting 166 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: is easier than broadcasting is because it's not live, and 167 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: the reason broadway is harder than a film is because 168 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: it is live. Ye, And the NFL business is not 169 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: only live, it's televised. And I'm not going to pick 170 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: it apart for how they canceled the game. They had 171 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: first responders that saved his life. I listen, you and 172 00:11:54,880 --> 00:12:00,239 Speaker 1: I don't have the exact same politics. We have similar 173 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: politics on a lot of things, and then on certain things, 174 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm basically left of linen and so you're you know, 175 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: so on those things we diverge a bit, but that 176 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know if this is political or not, 177 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: but it strikes me as a little political, the idea 178 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: that the NFL by definition must be the boogeyman here. 179 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: So there is the logistics of what happened. So I 180 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: was actually listening to a great radio show in Kansas City. 181 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: It's on a rock radio station. But the friends of 182 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: mine have done it for twenty years, called the Churchilaslow, 183 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: and they've put on a lot of concerts, and they 184 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: were talking about this and what Laslow, the host of 185 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: it said. He was like, because he also thought the 186 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: NFL being criticized for not instantly saying game off. He 187 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: was like, there's nobody realized there's seventy thousand people there 188 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: and that there is someone that has to make sure. Hey, 189 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: how we all of these people don't know the exact 190 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: circumstance on the field. They're not watching the broadcast the 191 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: inner you know what I mean. A lot of people 192 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: the internet doesn't work great in stadiums. They know a 193 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: player is hurt, and if all of a sudden it 194 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: is just announced game canceled, don't you think they have 195 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: a little concern of wait, are people going to get 196 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: out of here safely? Are people? So even if they 197 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: had measures ready for that, there's a lot of layers 198 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: it has to go through. And the idea that and 199 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: I listen, you know Joe Buck really well, I know 200 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: him a little bit. I am not doubting that Joe 201 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: Buck was told, hey, the players have been you know, 202 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: it's five minutes. But to me, unless you are trying 203 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: to find a reason to say bleep you NFL, the 204 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: reason the five minutes thing happened is it has written 205 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: some were on a piece of paper. That's right. If 206 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: there is a some type of on field incident and 207 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: the delay is so long, you are allowed to have 208 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: five minutes to get back warm. And so when someone's like, 209 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: so what do we do here, somebody said, well, I 210 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: guess I guess they think that five minutes. But that 211 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: was never gonna be five minutes and it was never 212 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: gonna be played again, and the it was and I 213 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: think smart people knew that, but they like to blame someone. 214 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: So now that's what I think happened. Now here's my 215 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: maybe two deep thoughts on it. Because we saw people 216 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: get mad at the NFL. We saw people get mad 217 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: at tweets. We saw people get mad in tragedy, people 218 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: search for a villain when often there isn't one. Often 219 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: it's just shit. That was awful, and I hate that 220 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: it happened. Furthermore, I I think lashing out at people 221 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: who prevents people from having to do the moments of 222 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: introspection of all Right, so if this is no one's 223 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: fault and this is just the potential cost of football, yeah, 224 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: oh boy, what does that say about me? Who bases 225 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: my entire weekend around football? What does that say about me? 226 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: That's a hard That's like a hard moral question. Am 227 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: I morally complicit in that? That's like a you know, 228 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: we need a philosophic philosopher to talk us through it. 229 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: You know what's easier? These fucking guys don't care about 230 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: the players. Give me a break, Like, give me a break. 231 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not acting like the NFL is has always 232 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: put players safety first. They clearly haven't. And I'm not 233 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: an apologist for the league, but I'm gonna say one 234 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: other thing. I don't even know if they can cancel 235 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: the game immediately without talking players union. I think there 236 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: has to be a lot of phone calls that happened 237 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: or something like that can be done. So I wasn't 238 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: looking for a villain here. I just and and it 239 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: is people rallied in the end and have done an 240 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: amazing thing and the go fund me. But I wish 241 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: it was more natural instead of searching for a villain. 242 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: It would have been just as easy to say, oh 243 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: my god, what a remarkable job by the people who 244 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: recognized in seconds his heart stopped, knew what to do, 245 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: unscrewed the face mask, Zach gave him the defiberlation, CPR, 246 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: all of it. And if you did want to be 247 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: an NFL apologist, you know what you'd say, Hey, they 248 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: have like they evidently have a protocol in place for 249 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: what to do if a player's heart stops, even though 250 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: in my entire life watching football, they've never had to 251 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: use it. And it was executed perfectly, Like I don't 252 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: know that's the So I don't know if that's the 253 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: right answer, but that's you and I agree on this one. Yeah, no, 254 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: I think I even I try to personalize stories and 255 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: say what would I have done? Or Since I've started 256 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: the volume, we're up to about thirty employees, and one 257 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: of our rules is, let's just get it right. Whatever 258 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: the process is, let's just get it right. And so 259 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: we don't get too precious on the process. As you know, 260 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, I've been doing this for thirty years. What 261 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: we do is small compared to like pro football. But 262 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: over the course of sometimes you know, you do things 263 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: in your marriage, on your show, with your kids, in parenting, 264 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: and you come to conclusions in crisis and argument a 265 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: school issue. How can I just get this right right? 266 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: How can I morally get it right? How can I 267 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: get the decision right? Is? Things are sloppy, you know, 268 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: things are Listen, man, When I watched there's a lot 269 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: I didn't know about childbirth, and then I watched it live, 270 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: I was like, I really like the final result. Yeah, 271 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that I can do without. 272 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: Can I just come in after it's delivered next time? 273 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: We all know professional athletes care about what they look like, 274 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: and as you know, I care about what I look like. 275 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: Right now, I've been wearing a lot of cuts clothing. 276 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: I love this thing. Right now. Every cut shirt is 277 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: designed to provide a perfectly tailored look. If you want 278 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: to long sleeve Henley, no problem, A short sleeve crew 279 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: neck They've got it. Cuts has everything you want, and 280 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: I've got all of it and I wear all of 281 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: it right now. Fifteen percent off your first order. Fifteen 282 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: percent off first order by going to Cuts Clothing dot 283 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: com slash colin Cuts Cuts look him up. I got 284 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: a closet full of their stuff and I love it 285 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: so um. All right, I want to talk to you 286 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: about There's two coaches in football that I think bother 287 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: the media, but Jesus they're good. Brian Kelly has won 288 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: everywhere instantly. He had a terrible incident at Notre Dame. 289 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: A young man died. He is gruff, he turns purple 290 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: when he's screaming at players. And Jim hark does a 291 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: really really crummy cagn accent out of nowhere, but go ahead. Yeah. 292 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: And Jim Harbaugh. And because Jim Harbaw, I think he's 293 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: on the spectrum and he's awkward and he doesn't really 294 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: need the media. I think I get along with people. 295 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: I struggle with him. People don't understand it. Harbor went 296 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: forty four, nineteen and one in a division with arguably 297 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: the mo talented team in football in twenty years, the Seahawks. 298 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: The Seahawks won six games and went to three straight 299 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: NFC Championship games with Alex Smith and Cap as the quarterbacks, 300 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: and Cap had a nice moment. The Cap wasn't a 301 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: blue Chipper. Alex Smith was considered a bust and immediately 302 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: contended for championships and contended at Stanford and turned Michigan 303 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: into a contender. Yeah, so I thought about this. You know, 304 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: when we do a show, I have opinions, but sometimes 305 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: I'll sleep on it. Is that in college the NIL 306 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: has actually helped coaches because it used to be you 307 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: were felt guilty for making money because players weren't. Now 308 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback at USC can make five million. Nobody talks 309 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: about coaches salaries, but a lot of these situations at 310 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: Michigan you do feel like your salaries published. You're the 311 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: highest paid state employee at eight million. Or you go 312 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: to the NFL make eighteen and nobody cares. Now you 313 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: get fired sooner, but nobody cares. Is that? I think 314 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: to myself, I wouldn't I wouldn't leave Michigan. But I 315 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: do wonder now once the players get paid, the downside, 316 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: because I'm for the players getting paid, but the downside is, 317 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: well shit, if I'm gonna have my players paid and 318 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: they're gonna transfer any time. I'd rather just be a 319 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: pro coach and make twice the money and not deal 320 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: with the NC double A and we're gonna lose a 321 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: lot of these great coaches and not have to deal 322 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: with is he academically eligible? I would listen. I think 323 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: some people love recruiting. I think I would hate it. 324 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: I think the grind of the travel, plus there has 325 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: to be an element of and I don't want to 326 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: sound like an old man. And again, some coaches love it, 327 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: and maybe that's why they're coaches, because they love that thing. 328 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: But of like trying to convince a seventeen year old to, 329 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, date you essentially, that seems again, I don't 330 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: think i'd love it. I don't think it'd be like 331 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Like, well, I got a fly 332 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: to Baton Rouge because this seventeen year old kid that 333 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: I thought was going to come play for me, now 334 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go play for Texas, So I 335 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: have to explain I have to win over him, his 336 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: mom and his dad like that. So I would far 337 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: prefer pro coaching, where you're dealing with with grown ups. 338 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: You only have to worry about the football part, and 339 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: you don't have to convince twenty twenty five new guys 340 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: every single year to come play for you. What is 341 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: interesting to me is it does seem like the money 342 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: in certain instances college you know, I mean, you tell 343 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. Colin in certain instance seemed like 344 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: the money's bigger in college football. So like did melt Tucker, 345 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: Who's what not one of the fifteen best coaches got 346 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: ninety million dollars? Like knowing that very few NFL coaches 347 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: have that. So I think for certain guys, college is 348 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: a better deal. Hardball. Here's the thing I want to 349 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: say about Hardball, because I I think Hardball is a 350 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: great coach, a great coach. And I made the point 351 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: on your show five years ago when I was filling 352 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 1: in for you, and then I made it again the 353 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: other day that he has an argument that if the 354 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: question is I need someone to coach my football team, 355 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: but I won't tell you if it's college or pro, 356 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: he should be the number one draft pick because you 357 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: can say, well, I'll take Belichick. Well what if he's 358 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: it's Alabama? Like, well, you know what I mean? Okay, 359 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: No, no no, no, I'll take Saban, Well, what if it's 360 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: the Jets, Like Hardball has a proof of concept at 361 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: both levels instantly good, So I think he's a great coach. 362 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: The one thing I think the media is getting wrong 363 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: with the Hardball story is this they're like, oh, the 364 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: new owners of the Broncos, they're the Walton family. They've 365 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: got seventy billion dollars. When it comes to coach salaries, 366 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: the difference between seventy billion net worth and seven billion 367 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: network is irrelevant. Well, the coach salaries, it's like, oh, 368 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: they can pay him twenty million a year, so can 369 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: eighty percent of the owners, Like, as long as you've 370 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: got more than a billion, you can pay the coach anything. 371 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: So the idea that the dit Broncos have this leg 372 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: up because their owners are so rich, I think people 373 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: have it wrong. I don't think it's the three richest 374 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: NFL owners have an advantage. I think it's the four 375 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: NFL owners that don't have real money are at a 376 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: huge disadvantage. So whether I think those teams are at 377 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: a real disadvantage, but I think I think every I 378 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: think eighty percent of the teams could hire a twenty 379 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: million dollars a year coach on a four year deal, 380 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: fire him and do that five consecutive cycles and have 381 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: four hundred million of dead coach money and it doesn't 382 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: affect their bottom line at all because they are multi 383 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: or Decca billionaires. I think there's a few teams, whether 384 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: it's the Cardinals, the Raiders, whomever, where it's like, oh, man, 385 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: do they have to keep the coach because they can't 386 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: afford to pay the buyout? A couple NBA topics. So 387 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: I try to watch half an NBA game every night 388 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: in the treadmill. I love it, so that's my goal. 389 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: So I get on the treadmill and I watch half 390 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: an NBA game, usually like an East Coast game. So 391 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: I watched Brooklyn and they're playing really well. And this 392 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: is where I tend to be in my career. I 393 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: do football heavy, Super Bowl ends, I go skiing, or 394 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: I go to Mexico, come back, and then I'm totally 395 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: into the NBA, NFL Draft, NFL free agency, but I'm 396 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: an NBA fan and I kind of block it off. 397 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: I do Labor Day to February tenth as NFL see 398 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: it's so funny. I'm this just real quip where you 399 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: get to your question. I know people kind of perceive 400 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: me as an NBA guy because I'm like the Lebron guy, 401 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: but I'm the exact same one. So I might watch 402 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more because of the coast I'm on, 403 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: and I have met season tickets, so I go to 404 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: some games and do that. But as far as the 405 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: media I consume, I listened to a lot of podcasts. Yeah, 406 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: I don't listen to any NBA podcasts right now, I'm 407 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: not reading it like I am. It's to me, this 408 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: is it. Football season is football season with a few 409 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: big time NBA games mixed in, and then the moment 410 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: I get back from vacation, it is nothing but hoops 411 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: for the next four months, and then go on another 412 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: vacation and then we're in the NFL again, And this 413 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: is just like the cycle that yeah, but go ahead, 414 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: but go ahead. So one of the reasons I don't 415 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people in our profession, 416 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: especially NBA people that they watch this early season stuff 417 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: and I always kind of think time out. I mean, 418 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: last two nights ago, the Celtics gave up one hundred 419 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: and fifty points to the thunder player without Saya, so 420 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: it's it's not even some teams are arrested, are exhausted. 421 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: Who'd you play the night before? It's like the San 422 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. Everybody that plays them the next 423 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: week or two fourteen. So in the NBA, if you play, 424 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, if you play the Celtics the night before 425 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: and they're arm wrestling you and playing defense the next night, 426 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna play well after. So I watched 427 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets, and here's my takeaway on them. They're 428 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: the Phoenix Sun Steve Nash team. They are totally built 429 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: for the regular season. You come in light rest, the 430 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: guys come in after shoot around, they get thirty minutes 431 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: of film putting their shoes on, they watch them, and 432 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: then you got to face Kyrie and Durant and Simmons 433 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: and it's a hard matchup. You put them in a 434 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: series and I can go at Kyrie six times defensively 435 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: where he won't play. I can put Simmons on the 436 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: foul line in any big spot. That Brooklyn is tough 437 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: with little prep, infinitely beat able. With with that, I 438 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: agree with that. I think that's a smart take and 439 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: but they also I will give them credit listen, since 440 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: Kyrie came back, they're eighteen and three. They're also one 441 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 1: game in December. Here are I got three potential issues 442 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: with Brooklyn. The first one is Kyrie's you know, you 443 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: ever been to like a construction site and they have 444 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: that little thing that the days without an incident, and 445 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: every day it ticks up. It's like forty six, forty seven. 446 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: We are approaching the most Kyrie days without an incident 447 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: we've had in about six years, which means that some 448 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: bitch might be going back to zero any moment. Now. 449 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: There there's a chance I think is getting reset. So 450 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, Kyrie's on his best behavior, and I'm like, yeah, 451 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's been six weeks and that's good, but 452 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not booking that as the norm. Okay, 453 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: that's the first thing. Yeah. The second thing is this 454 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: and this is a good thing and a bad thing. 455 00:28:52,840 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: Then Durant is playing some some from an offensive perspective. Yeah, 456 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: some of the best basketball in league history right now. 457 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: So I put a thing on the TV show yesterday 458 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: where NBA dot Com will break the court down into zones, 459 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: like not just quadrants, but like there's like eighteen of 460 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: them as far as where you take your shots from 461 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: right and red. If the color beneath you is red, 462 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: it means you're below average. If it's the color of 463 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: the court, it means you are average, and if it's green, 464 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: it means you're above average. On those eighteen zones, Kevin 465 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: Durant had fifteen green, two Beijian, one red. The one 466 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: that was ready. He has taken two shots from that area. 467 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: I think he'll probably make the next one. It'll turn 468 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: beijior green and another one he'd only taken five shots. 469 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: So he is from every scoring zone on the court 470 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: well above average, every single one. And I was like, wait, 471 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: is this true for all the great players? Nope, I 472 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: look Steph, it's like half of him. He has his spots, 473 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: Lebron it's like a third of them. But he's killing 474 00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: you at the rim, Luke, it's the Durant is great 475 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: everywhere and he is taking tough shots. So the good 476 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: thing is he's an amazing player. The bad thing is 477 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: they need him to continue a level of offensive efficiency 478 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: that would make Prime Jordan blush as far as what 479 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: he's doing in the mid range and all of that. 480 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: And the last thing is what you said, which is 481 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: the Ben Simmons in the playoffs part of this. No 482 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: one is talking about it and no one is thinking 483 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: about but it is a major concern. I want to 484 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: say one other NBA thing to you, because Jannis in 485 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: his last seven is averaging forty and the other night 486 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: at fifty five and the Bucks are a game out 487 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: of first place. Yeah, so here is why. In my opinion, 488 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: Jannis and Luca have shown beyond a shadow of a 489 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: doubt they are the two best players in the league. 490 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: Yannis won, Luca two. Every other great player in this 491 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: league either this year in the last few years, if 492 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: their second best guy isn't there, the team struggles to 493 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: win half its games. Lebron lost ad team can't win 494 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: half its games. Steph a couple of years ago didn't 495 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: have Clay, they missed the playoffs. Yokich last year didn't 496 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: have Jamal Murray. They're the sixth seat. Durant this year 497 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: Kyrie was going when he was going to sabbatical. There's 498 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. They're they're dead in 499 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: the water. Luca last year, Dinna have a second best 500 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: player whole second half of the season, playoff run. It's 501 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: like Okay, I'll just take us to the conference finals. 502 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: Jannis hasn't had Middleton all year. He's played seven games, 503 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,239 Speaker 1: and seven games he played didn't play well because he's 504 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: still hurt. And they're a game out of first. That is, 505 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: those two guys are at a different level. The our 506 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: teams can beat contenders even without our second best guy, 507 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: And if you give me our second best guy, we'll 508 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: probably win the whole damn thing everyone else no matter 509 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: how great they are. And I threw Lebron in there too, 510 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: because he's still unbelievable. They need their full cast of characters, 511 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: not to win any games, but to contend. The Bucks 512 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: can contend based on the power of Jannis alone, and 513 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: I think the MAVs are showing they can do that 514 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: with Luca too very good. What do you make a 515 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: year less than you, buddy? It's really what do you 516 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: make of the offensive explosion in the last two weeks? 517 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: I can tend. I would say every season has what 518 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: they call the dog days, and I think after Christmas 519 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: there's a three week lull when you're still experimenting with 520 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: some defensive rotations. You're not here the trading deadlines, you're 521 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: not showing off people, yet you're giving certain players rest, 522 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: and so we're in The dog days are not the 523 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: end of the regular season because seeding really matters. It's 524 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: not right up to the trading deadline because you're trying 525 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: to show off certain people to move them. These are 526 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: actually even though the season only starts in October, the 527 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: dog days are like the day after Christmas until like 528 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: January fifth to tenth, and that nobody's playing defense right now. Okay, 529 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: so I listen. I think that's part of it. So 530 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm really glad you asked me this. I'm really glad, 531 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,719 Speaker 1: and I have a much probably longer answer than you anticipated. 532 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: But I think you're like good. So here. So the 533 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: NBA right now, it's one hundred and thirteen points per 534 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: game is the league average. It's the highest it's been 535 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 1: in a very long time. Some context though, other than 536 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. In the last fifty the 537 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: highest scoring year was nineteen eighty five. Everyone's like, oh 538 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: my god, defense was so hard and they punched in 539 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: the face. It was one eleven per game in nineteen 540 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: eighty five. The only time it was pre nineteen eighty 541 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: five higher than this was the early sixties. This is 542 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: a sidebar, but I think you'll like this. Nineteen sixty two, 543 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: the NBA average one hundred and eighteen points per game. 544 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: That was one hundred eighteen in nineteen sixty two. So 545 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 1: whenever what else happened in nineteen sixty two, well will 546 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: average fifty a game. Oscar Averager triple double your guy, 547 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: Dragonfly Jones. Part of the volume pointed this out. Elgin 548 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: Baylor averaged thirty eight and eighteen, but he only played 549 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: forty eight games. Colin. He only played forty eight games 550 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: because Elgin got called up as an army reservist and 551 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: could only play for the Lakers when he was on 552 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: weekend leave, and he took coach flights and then dropped 553 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: thirty eight a night on folks and then had a 554 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: sixty one point finals game. Okay, So why do I 555 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: bring all that up? Sixty two when all these crazy 556 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: records were set, different game. They're playing the in breakneck 557 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: pace and no one can make shots, so it's just 558 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: shoot miss, you get a rebound, shoot miss, get a rebound. Okay, 559 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: So throw those records out. Nineteen eighty five, why would 560 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: that be so high? Scoring? Wasn't three point line? It 561 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: had been invented, but people barely shot it. Well, the 562 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: ABA folded, the NBA hadn't fully expanded, and you had 563 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: a massive talent. There's too many good players, too many 564 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: good players. Then what happens late eighties, NBA expands, early nineties, 565 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: it expands again, and all of a sudden, NBA Finals 566 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: games are eighty five eighty three, and you look around 567 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: and you watch the Bulls jazz and it's like, that's 568 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: Jeff Foster and Jeff Hornet check and I don't want 569 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: to just say white guys here, but it was a 570 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: lot like it's and it's not. But people don't want 571 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: to say that because so much of the NBA is 572 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: rapp in, like the Jordan legacy. They're like, no, the 573 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: nineties were great, No, they weren't. So now we go here. 574 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: Three point line huge part to do with it, undeniable. 575 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: People are taking a bazillion threes. Here's the other thing. 576 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: Right now, if someone were to say the three best 577 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: players in the NBA are Yannis Luca Yokich, well that's interesting. 578 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: So now we're getting guys from Greece via Nigeria, Slovenia 579 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: and Serbia. Yannis the other night he crossed up Chris 580 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: STAPs and got to the rim. I'm like, okay, that's 581 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: a seven foot four inch lot Vian trying to guard 582 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: a seven foot Nigerian Greek kid out on the perimeter. 583 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this because it helps my Lebron goat argument. 584 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying it because it's obvious. The players are packed, 585 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: are way better, and you have the entire world to 586 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: choose from, and so yeah, the defense isn't is physical, 587 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 1: but the game is smarter that people understand it better. 588 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,959 Speaker 1: They understand where the efficient shots are. The three point 589 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: shot has proliferated. We're about to bring over a seven 590 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: foot one inch French alien who's shooting step back one 591 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: foot threes. Like, guys, it's just better. And it's not 592 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: to me a coincidence that you go back to the 593 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: mid eighties there was a scoring explosion. It's like you 594 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: have oh my god, you have magic. You have Larry, 595 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: the Aba is folded, you have Jordan come in, you 596 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: have all these great players come in, and there were 597 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: every team like all the great teams have like four 598 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: Hall of famers, And so that's my answer. So yes, 599 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think the what I think 600 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting because your point is the scoring 601 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: will go down a bit. You know, once teams care 602 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: more well, right now it's at one thirteen and in 603 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five one to eleven. So if it goes 604 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: down just a little bit, we're gonna be scoring at 605 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: the same rate as they did in the mid eighties. 606 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: And there's you know, there's that's gonna be hard for 607 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: people to reconcile, but that's why things happening. I also 608 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: think here's the other thing. Because there have been a 609 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: ton of fifty point games, but they've all been by stars. 610 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: It would be concerning to me, concerning the wrong word, 611 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: but more noteworthy to me if it was I don't 612 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: know if you remember this guy, Tony Delk, he played 613 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: it for a long time. Yeah, he once had a 614 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: fifty point NBA game, and he's kind of known as 615 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: like the worst player to score fifty. That sounds shitty, 616 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. Yea, if a lot 617 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: of average guys were dropping fifty, I'd be like, oh, 618 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: these numbers don't mean as much. 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They were making so much 663 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: money eight billion annually. They owed the industry. It would 664 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: have think about the industry today if it now owned 665 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: the phone industry or on cable TV. And and by 666 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: the way, those big swings. I never worked for ESPN 667 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 1: like you did, but I give them credit anyway for things. 668 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: Also created thirty for thirty that's a big expensive swing 669 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: and it was awesome. Yeah, and it was you know 670 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: what I mean, it was awesome and like so that yeah, 671 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: the phone is like known as kind of a disaster, 672 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: but yeah, but go ahead. Yeah. So I think the 673 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 1: Amazons of the world and the Apples of the world, 674 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:46,720 Speaker 1: to elevate society artificial intelligence, have the money take big 675 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: swings on things because small companies can't. And to advance society, 676 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: that's important. So one of the things I believe, you know, 677 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: I've been doing this long time. I've very large audience 678 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: audio whatever. I never ever believe I'm the gatekeeper of 679 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: any industry. I'm not going to tell people how to 680 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,919 Speaker 1: broadcast skip you. It doesn't matter, Max Kellerman, stephen A. Smith. 681 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: We all have different styles. I'm a believer and lean 682 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: into you. Whatever you is, do more you. But I 683 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: like occasionally and I believe in this strongly throwing out 684 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 1: a theory that could be absurd because I don't want 685 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: talk show host to feel they're trapped. I think I 686 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: owe it in a weird way. I see myself as 687 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm not going to get fired for a crazy take. 688 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 1: Who cares if anybody rips me. I have a huge 689 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 1: army of followers behind me. So I like throwing out 690 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: occasionally something that seems absurd. Okay, I like right like, 691 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: it's like I can do it. Who cares? It's I 692 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: have the you have the cache, credibility and career that 693 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: you can. You're not bulletproof, but you at least have 694 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, you're wearing it. You got some body armor 695 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: on and you can take some slugs your way. Yeah, 696 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: got it? Okay. So Mike Vrabel played with Tom Brady. 697 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,959 Speaker 1: He is absolutely one of the smartest coaches in the league. 698 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: He knows the importance of the position, and he's now 699 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: in a conference where Trevor Lawrence looks like a top 700 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: five quarterback. He's in a conference with Mahomes and Allan 701 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 1: and Burrow and Herbert and Trevor Lawrence, all the good 702 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: young guys are in his way, and Bryce Young's about 703 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: to be there. That's right. And Vrabel is going to 704 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: get on the phone after this season because there's no 705 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: dead cap hit for Tannehill and he's gonna say, Aaron, 706 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: get the f down here. Oh it's Nashville. I thought 707 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna say he's gonna try to sighting Tom No 708 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: because you said he was friends with Tom. Aaron, So 709 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna say, Aaron, he's gonna play to his vanity, Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert, 710 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, I need you. He understands quarterback. Aaron's never 711 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: had great defenses in green Bay. The one year he did, 712 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: they want it, so green Bay simultaneously would take a hit. 713 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,919 Speaker 1: But because they're not paying Jordan Love and they could 714 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: afford it, they can't afford to cut him, but they 715 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: can trade it. They can't trade him and it doesn't 716 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: kill him, and they look at their division. Goss's not 717 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: a superstar. Cousins has limitations, Justin Fields has a defensive 718 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: coach and a dysfunctional organization, and they're like, screw it, 719 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,240 Speaker 1: let's give it a run. For two years, we found 720 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: our two receivers. By the way, the cap hit isn't 721 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: his punitive that My hot take is Rabel's going to 722 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: get on the phone and try really hard to convince 723 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay's gonna say christ were walking 724 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: on eggshells for twelve years. Here Listen, I don't think 725 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Further, I thought you were gonna say Brady's 726 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: gonna go there, and I was only gonna say that's 727 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: crazy because I don't think Tom Brady's moving to Nashville. 728 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 1: And again, I'm from Kansas City. I'm not taking a 729 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: shy away. I'm not comparing myself to Apple or Amazon 730 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: in this whole scenario. No, but in the No, what 731 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: you are doing is you are saying people that have 732 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: the ability to take big swings in any industry should 733 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 1: do it. So I you I in the in the 734 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:39,439 Speaker 1: ecosystem of sports broadcasting, I don't know, I don't know who. 735 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: If you're not Apple or Amazon, I don't know who 736 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: is there. You know, whatever it is, that's fine, it's fine. 737 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: It we're listen. By the way, there's forty minutes into 738 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 1: a Nick Wright Colin Coward podcast. The people are still listening. 739 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: Either really love one of us or really hate one 740 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: of us. So don't eyth matter? So the but um so, 741 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 1: the Roger thing I'm gonna I hadn't thought about him 742 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,240 Speaker 1: with Tennessee, here's what I do think. And Packer fans 743 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: are killing me for this. But I said after they 744 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: went four and eight and Aaron had the broken thumb, 745 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: that they should start playing Jordan Love. And now they're like, oh, 746 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: look at us now, and the answers really look at you. 747 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: Now what am I looking at? Like the it'd be 748 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: one thing if you were on this four game winning 749 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: streak because Rogers is lighting it up. On the four 750 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: game winning streak column, Rogers has four touchdown passes, he 751 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: has an eighty seven rating. They are averaging less than 752 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: two hundred passing yards per game. They're on the four 753 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: game winning streak because they have fourced twelve turnovers in 754 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: four games. They have two defensive touchdowns two. Uh we 755 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: now know was you know? I was dealing with a 756 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: serious injury and melted down. They played they give me 757 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: a break. I said, you gotta play love, and it's 758 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,359 Speaker 1: not necessarily punting on this season, but whatever, you've got 759 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: to play love. And the reason you gotta play love 760 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: is the question I asked was, are you still in 761 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: the super Bowl business in Green Bay? Because if you are, 762 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,479 Speaker 1: you're not winning it this year. And what you need 763 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: to do is figure out can the kid play and 764 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: if he can play a little bit, But you're like, Okay, 765 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: he's not ready yet. Guess what. If you're still in 766 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 1: the super Bowl business and you're keeping Aaron Rodgers, someone 767 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: will trade your draft pick for him. You can use 768 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 1: that to help next year's team because this team is 769 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 1: not good enough if he's If you're still in the 770 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: super Bowl business and he is good enough, well, guess what. 771 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: Then you have the conversation of do we trade Aaron? 772 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: But whatever it is, they should have used this time 773 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 1: to get information on Jordan Love. Instead, they are going 774 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,439 Speaker 1: to blindly pick up his fifth year option, blindly having 775 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: seen him play one game against the Chiefs terribly last 776 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: year and a half a game this year. It's insane 777 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 1: and they're not going to be able to trade him 778 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: because nobody has seen him play. They're not gonna now 779 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 1: maybe they trade Aaron, like you're saying, But the risk 780 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: there is that Jordan Loves no good. Now I don't 781 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: think he's no good, but it's on the board just 782 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: because he hasn't played, and so I don't think the 783 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 1: Packers have handled this right. I also don't think Aaron's 784 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: made it particularly easy for them, like throughout this process. 785 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: But I think the idea. You know, Mark Schlayret came 786 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: on my show and I said, no, what even my show. 787 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: It was the day I was filling in for you. 788 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 1: He came on your show, but I was talking to 789 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 1: him and I set made the point that I thought 790 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 1: the Packers should have played Love because they have to 791 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: decide his fifth year option. And he said he believes 792 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: they have already decided that they are picking it up. 793 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: And he didn't say he was told this. I don't 794 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 1: want to misquote stink. He said he thinks his theory 795 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: is that they're moving on from Aaron, that they've seen 796 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: enough from Love that that the reason they didn't play 797 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 1: him in this spot is because they knew this was 798 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: Aaron the end. They were gonna let Aaron get his 799 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: final run and see what happens. But it's an interesting 800 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: situation they have found themselves in. Can I ask you 801 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: one question before we go? Sure, everyone is saying the 802 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 1: NFC's wide open. The NFC has no juggernaut. Why are 803 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: the Niners not a juggernaut? They feel like a juggernaut 804 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: to me, man, how about this? So today a buddy 805 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: of mine, degenerate gambler, great guy's a fireman and Connecticut 806 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: good friend. He sends me shit all the time. He's 807 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: a basketball scout on the East Coast. Is so great. 808 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: And he said, for all those questioning brock Purty, he 809 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: goes Matt Campbell will be one of the finalists for 810 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: the Michigan job if Harball leaves. He's viewed as a 811 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: super sharp coach, he said. During brock Purdy's run, in 812 00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: the four years as a starter at Iowa State, they 813 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: were thirty and seventeen, twenty five and ten in the 814 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: Big Twelve, and seven and ten record against ranked opponents. 815 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 1: Now that's not worthy. This is Iowa State this year 816 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: with Matt Campbell four and eight, one in eight in 817 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 1: the Big twelve. Wow, oh and four against ranked opponents. 818 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: Do we have Tony Romo Kurt Warner on our hands, 819 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 1: a great player that was undervaluated. Yea under evaluated short 820 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 1: under evaluated. Yeah, here's the thing. But I guess my 821 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: point is, even if he's not a great player, the 822 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: Niners won a game this year started by Trey Lanes. 823 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: They won a bunch of games started by Jimmy Garoppolo. 824 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: They're now undefeated with games started by Rock Purty. Sometimes 825 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: a team is not reliant on the quarterback, and it 826 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,320 Speaker 1: would seem to be a team that has Nicky Bosa, 827 00:50:54,719 --> 00:51:00,439 Speaker 1: Eric Armstead, an amazing defensive coordinator, that Hafonga who looks 828 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: like he plays three positions at once, the safety. They 829 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: have the best left tackle in football, maybe the best 830 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 1: running back in football, the second best tight end, two 831 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: awesome wide receivers, team kicks ass Man, and now am 832 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,800 Speaker 1: I also kind of trying to speak into existence speaking 833 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: of good great friends of yours that have gambling problems. 834 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: I put, I did. I did this on my podcast 835 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,479 Speaker 1: What's Right with Nick right in the preseason gambling show. 836 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: I put I did a whole preseason show where I 837 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: did my season over under Betsy. And then you can 838 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: get on fan duel before the season super like you 839 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 1: could pick an NFC winner and an AFC winner and 840 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: parlay it. So just pick who's going to be in 841 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And before the year, Chiefs Niners was 842 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: fifty to one, not even a winner, not Chiefs over 843 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: Niners and Niners is just the Chiefs win the AFC, 844 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: Niners win, THENFCO is fifty to one. I put a 845 00:51:55,080 --> 00:52:00,080 Speaker 1: thousand dollars on a column, so I've got that's a 846 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: live bet right now. That's a I think the Niners 847 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: to me, with what's going on in Philly with the injuries, 848 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 1: are the favorites in the NFC. And the Chiefs are 849 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 1: certainly at least co favorites in the AFC, And I 850 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: think the Niners. I think people are talking about the 851 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 1: NFC like it's wide open purely because and I get it, 852 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: it's not just a rookie. It's a seventh round rookie. 853 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 1: But the kids played great. Shanahan has proven he can 854 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 1: win in the playoffs without great quarterback play. And I 855 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: think this roster is stacked, stacked, so do I. And 856 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: Debo's coming back, and Debo's coming back. That's the other 857 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,399 Speaker 1: thing to look at. Which teams this time of year 858 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: are getting healthier and which teams are getting more injured 859 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: Philly is the most injured it's been all year. The Chiefs. 860 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 1: Nobody cares because it's Mahomes. He hasn't had his number 861 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 1: one wide receiver for six weeks. They haven't had their 862 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: number one running back, who's not very good, but for 863 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: five weeks. Are both coming back. Like the teams, you 864 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: gotta that's something you always got to watch. It's one 865 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,760 Speaker 1: of the things I worry about with your Bengals, Lyle Collins, 866 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 1: like you had that offensive line continuity all year. Lyle 867 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 1: Collins goes down, like how that is concerning to me? 868 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 1: One last vaulting before I go. I don't know if 869 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: I believe this or not, but it is into I 870 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,239 Speaker 1: mean believe it, it's true, but I don't know if 871 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: I buy into it. The Steelers are seven and two 872 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: when t J. Watt plays. Seven and two when t J. 873 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: Watt plays, that's crazy. That team's got no one on offense. 874 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: I know Collinsworth was falling all ons about Kinny Pickett. 875 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 1: Dude's got hands smaller than your daughter and he's got 876 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: six touchdown passes. I don't think it's superstar all right. 877 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: Before we end hold on, I have to turn the 878 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,799 Speaker 1: lights on in here so everyone can see what your 879 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,839 Speaker 1: producers to pride the audience seeing. Hold on, wow, look 880 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 1: at this. I mean that's beautiful. I mean, isn't it. 881 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 1: Oh there's too much lights from being and down. I 882 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 1: mean we got artwork, we got Christmas trees the middle 883 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 1: of Harlem, New York. My man living a lot, and 884 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,359 Speaker 1: Colin told me. Colin told me, he was like, Nick, 885 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 1: you're gonna move to New York City. Rant don't buy. 886 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 1: You gave me that advice. I'll say, everyone else like buy. 887 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,919 Speaker 1: And he's like, man, you're gonna live in New York. 888 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna live in different places. It's crazy expensive. I 889 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: think Colin also knew I probably didn't have any money 890 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 1: to buy at the time. He was trying to be 891 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: nice and I haven't. It's great. I missed you. Rgeous. 892 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:35,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna see you uh in person in Arizona. 893 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 1: The volumes having a party. Oh really, Will I be invited? 894 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: Of course? Okay, all right, that'll be great. I appreciate you, buddy. 895 00:54:45,920 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 1: Let's see you later, buddy. The volume. Make sure to 896 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: check out the Draymond Green Show. I brought Draymond Green 897 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,720 Speaker 1: into the volume because one of the more entertaining voices 898 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 1: in sports. Unique perspective understands behind the Rope also chops 899 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 1: up with guests like Gary Peyton, Zach Levine, Tracy McGrady. 900 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,879 Speaker 1: Make sure download The Draymond Green Show wherever you get 901 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 1: your podcasts, only on the Volume podcast Network