Speaker 1: Hoping to we talk back, where we encourage you to
Speaker 1: hustle hard, laugh louder, and always keep it cute. So
Speaker 1: grab your.
Speaker 2: Coffee, cocktail and crown.
Speaker 1: Because it's about a gold damn.
Speaker 2: Talk talk talk. We're just two unapologetically black women with
Speaker 2: an opinion.
Speaker 1: Who talks back. What's up, y'all? It's your girl, aj Holiday,
Speaker 1: what's up, tam Damn Hey, y'all.
Speaker 2: I love y'all so so, so so very much. Girl
Speaker 2: on teeth is extra white girl. I put some white
Speaker 2: strips on yesterday. I was smiling and it was like
Speaker 2: a twinge of yellow.
Speaker 1: Look at mine right now because I was using turmeric toothpaste,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what the fuck? And I do do
Speaker 1: teeth white names. I'm like, why the fuck? My shit
Speaker 1: look kind of beingey, especially because I don't got no
Speaker 1: ring light or nothing like that right now. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, bitch, you putting turmeric on your damn teeth?
Speaker 2: Bitch Oh yellow first of all, turk on yellow, anything
Speaker 2: it touched.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I didn't think it was until I saw
Speaker 1: how my toothbrush bristles kind of got kind of y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it has to be doing the same thing
Speaker 1: to my goddamn.
Speaker 2: Teeth, right, crazy ass. Yeah, but I'm thinking yesterday shout
Speaker 2: out to Chris, that was your weekend. We need some ads, period.
Speaker 2: My weekend was a bunch of havoc, y'all. It was
Speaker 2: my birthday weekend. My birthday was on Sunday.
Speaker 3: Yea hey birthday, yea yeah, birthday to you.
Speaker 4: Happy birthday, easy, hey Jay, Happy birthday to you.
Speaker 1: It was literally a j's holiday, Okay. On Sunday, she.
Speaker 2: Ain't respond to a single message or car what was good?
Speaker 1: Get it?
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: From the time I woke up, remember I told you
Speaker 1: I was doing a photo shoot, so I wish y'all
Speaker 1: motherfuckers would have waited for my little pictures. And I
Speaker 1: really was trying. That's why I wanted to do it
Speaker 1: on Saturday. But my little props and shit didn't come
Speaker 1: in and times had to reschedule for Sunday. So from
Speaker 1: the time I woke up to the time this nigga
Speaker 1: got here to do my photos, I was getting ready
Speaker 1: the whole time, and you called me and I was
Speaker 1: literally shooting at the time, and then straight from there
Speaker 1: we had dinner at seven o'clock, so that was it.
Speaker 1: That's my whole day. And then I was so exhausted.
Speaker 1: I'm in the cars sleeping on the way back to
Speaker 1: the house. I took a shower and I got in
Speaker 1: the bed. I did look at a few messages. I
Speaker 1: thank you all for all the happy birthday wishes, and
Speaker 1: I still hadn't responded to a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Jiyack page, because I don't think you even went on that.
Speaker 1: One on the story.
Speaker 2: No on the page. No, you gotta go check because
Speaker 2: it's a lot of people wish you would have.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, y'all, girl, I catch up on life yet. Okay,
Speaker 1: my damn house a mess from just making this the
Speaker 1: studio for a damn day. It's just a mess, man.
Speaker 2: The pictures are absolutely stunny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got some other ones to post. I just
Speaker 1: gotta get my edits back and stuff. So yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: I had a good time. Took me forever, girl. I
Speaker 1: do not know how to pose, y'all. I'm about to
Speaker 1: just start practicing poles and ship.
Speaker 2: That's what I need to do too, because every time
Speaker 2: I think I'm eating and then I look at the
Speaker 2: picture and I look.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, my body looked like that. What the
Speaker 1: fuck is happening right now? Like why am I? Am
Speaker 1: I really standing like that? In my mind?
Speaker 2: Like I'm really like posing like that. You look as
Speaker 2: stupid the whole time. But you know what, me and
Speaker 2: you are both so hard on ourselves when it comes
Speaker 2: to photos.
Speaker 1: No, them pictures are looking dumb. Okay. And also because
Speaker 1: this isn't a studio, my backdrop didn't come, so I
Speaker 1: the pictures had to be like more close up kind of.
Speaker 1: Also I didn't have enough wall space basically like with
Speaker 1: the backdrop to do what I wanted to do, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I just had to make do Yeah, So it worked
Speaker 1: out a little tiny bit.
Speaker 2: Where'd you go to dinner?
Speaker 1: Ah? Damn? What's the name of this? It's called Kings
Speaker 1: on Dange's Island. I don't know if you've ever been
Speaker 1: to Dang's Island in Charleston. But it's like a little
Speaker 1: riverfront restaurant. No, it is not good. It was No,
Speaker 1: it's called King something and I don't want to really like,
Speaker 1: but we ended up with a super discount on dinner.
Speaker 1: That's how bad our dinner was. It took a long
Speaker 1: time to come out, and then when it came it's
Speaker 1: like I don't ever add season into my food after
Speaker 1: it's cooked. May I cook it or like a restaurant,
Speaker 1: I just deal with it. But when I tell you
Speaker 1: I had to ask for salt, like you cannot cook pasta.
Speaker 1: I had a lobster pasta. You cannot not seasoned pasta,
Speaker 1: and it was like spinish spinish noodles. You gotta season
Speaker 1: that ship tastes like nothing. Nothing I was. I don't
Speaker 1: know the best part was my dessert.
Speaker 2: Well, I would like for you to go to visit
Speaker 2: this place. It's close by you. It's called, oh your
Speaker 2: Tunji village.
Speaker 1: You mean a Hellnhead area. Yeah, I've been there. African village. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been there twice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what it looks like nowadays. We
Speaker 1: went like I went one time, but like a field
Speaker 1: trip because it is an actual African village. But people
Speaker 1: don't really live in there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's more so tourist attraction nowadays. Oh really, yeah, now
Speaker 1: you can. It's some places around there where you could
Speaker 1: go get you some work done if you need it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You're looking for somebody to
Speaker 1: do some shit. To somebody. Yeah that was nobody.
Speaker 2: I want somebody to do something to me, help me
Speaker 2: this weak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I've been there.
Speaker 2: That's how I look. Documentary on it over the weekend
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh wow, this is like really
Speaker 2: really dope, y'all. If y'all get a chance, check out
Speaker 2: a documentary on the Oh your tonguey village in South Carolina,
Speaker 2: the only African village existing in South Carolina. That's dope.
Speaker 2: So that's what I did this weekend. I watched documentaries
Speaker 2: after documentaries. Oh, and I got my hair locked and
Speaker 2: it took.
Speaker 1: A long, long long. The hair is fleaky, thank you.
Speaker 2: It looks you know. It's just when I get my
Speaker 2: hair like this, I turn into somebody else. I don't know.
Speaker 2: The energy just shift.
Speaker 1: Not you a hole, teph you black women in their hair.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Very earthly.
Speaker 2: I've been hugging and talking to the trees like it's
Speaker 2: just very it's given, very earthy. Girl. I almost went
Speaker 2: out with no deodorant one day, but I ain't that.
Speaker 1: Your spirituality is not an aesthetic that's given right now.
Speaker 2: It's how I feel on the inside that's just coming out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because you have locks, no I got the locks because
Speaker 2: of how I was feeling on the inside. It's all.
Speaker 2: What's what you see on the outside is a representation
Speaker 2: of how I've been feeling on this da.
Speaker 1: Y'all, Dan, how she started a conversation after right and
Speaker 1: my tripping.
Speaker 2: I'm telling y'all, I'll tell y'all how I feel.
Speaker 1: It sounds like she adjusted to the hair, not.
Speaker 2: The hair hair, the hair adjusted to me. And this
Speaker 2: clarity and feelings I've been having because of this seventy
Speaker 2: five heart. Yeah, my I'm elevated period, way up.
Speaker 1: Let's put it. What was your weekend? Like, that's it?
Speaker 1: You just got your hair done?
Speaker 2: I watched documentaries and got my hair done.
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, that's a good weekend.
Speaker 2: And then I did my workouts. You know that's it.
Speaker 2: I'm on y'all today. Well, by the time you hear this,
Speaker 2: I'll be on day sixty seven.
Speaker 1: So what's gonna happen at seventy five? You're gonna keep
Speaker 1: going eighty.
Speaker 2: No, you're gonna drink some liquor. Drinking some liquor, Like, oh,
Speaker 2: day seventy six, I'm gonna have me a cocktail and
Speaker 2: a bacon cheeseburger.
Speaker 1: You already know.
Speaker 2: I already know I'm gonna have you espress on martini
Speaker 2: and a bacon cheeseburger that day. But I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 2: continue to work out. Instead of seven days a week,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna cut back to like five days a week,
Speaker 2: and instead of two workouts a day, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: do one, you know, because I need my life back.
Speaker 2: This really take a large portion of your life from you,
Speaker 2: like so yeah, and it's not sustainable. It's not something
Speaker 2: you could do forever. Seven days a week, two workouts
Speaker 2: a day is just you know, saying.
Speaker 1: Some people be doing it. I guess that's all they
Speaker 1: got to do. Though. Those niggas who you see in
Speaker 1: the damn gym every day every day, I can all day.
Speaker 1: Some days like I've been, I've cried in there, I've
Speaker 1: drug getting there. I remember one day, I was like
Speaker 1: laying on the bike, and I know that bike filthy.
Speaker 1: I was laying on that bitch like you.
Speaker 2: I was laying on that bitch just moving my feet,
Speaker 2: just moving it a little bit too. And the forty
Speaker 2: five minutes, I think I barely made it four miles.
Speaker 2: That's not like for to go for five minutes. I
Speaker 2: can't usually do like eleven or twelve miles. I barely
Speaker 2: like right, yeah, I barely made it four miles. So
Speaker 2: it was just days where I was just pushing through
Speaker 2: the best I could.
Speaker 1: I to check with my complex and see where the
Speaker 1: fuck my bike went at because I was out of
Speaker 1: town and they like moved things I had, like under
Speaker 1: the stairwell.
Speaker 2: Oh it's cracking with your bike right now.
Speaker 1: Girl, where is my fucking bike? I know it had
Speaker 1: looked dusty from falling and all that because it just
Speaker 1: wasn't time to ride bike yet. Yep, but I want
Speaker 1: my bike.
Speaker 2: Yep, before somebody take the shit.
Speaker 1: They better than not had throw my bike out. I
Speaker 1: never saw it by the trash can by the dumbstairs.
Speaker 2: That's because somebody took it home.
Speaker 1: Listen. I've been avoided asking them about it because I
Speaker 1: don't feel like cussing people out, because I just know
Speaker 1: in my spirit that I'm a custom people out in
Speaker 1: that office. I already feel like that.
Speaker 2: Let me tell y'all something. You know how I'm speaking
Speaker 2: of cussing people out. I always say like I'm better now,
Speaker 2: I'm healed, But I realized I ain't as healed as
Speaker 2: I think because I just cussed somebody smooth fuck out.
Speaker 1: The other day, it's necessary. Sometimes that doesn't mean you're
Speaker 1: not healed, but you got to work on the thing
Speaker 1: that triggered you to then cuss them out. But sometimes
Speaker 1: that shit is fucking necessary.
Speaker 2: It's what I'm talking about. It was the thing the
Speaker 2: reason I cussed them out because they wouldn't go see
Speaker 2: a doctor. Oh yeah, and I cussed them smoother fuck out.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about bad. I called them an MF, a
Speaker 2: stupid mfort and hung up in their face.
Speaker 1: What's the prognosis, Like, what's happening with them?
Speaker 2: They got like one day they tilted to the side
Speaker 2: where they the way they walking right now, it looked
Speaker 2: like the hunchback of Notre Dame, right, so they back
Speaker 2: is fucked up. And then they also having like bad
Speaker 2: hemorrhoid issue and not going to the doctor is insane
Speaker 2: to me, and I just I cussed them out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's slumped over it. I don't know. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to say what it's given, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you get see it, it's just black men, y'all. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is with black men and
Speaker 2: not wanting to go to the doctor. But it's just
Speaker 2: really because they made an appointment and they was like,
Speaker 2: well I felt a little better, so I canceled it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm what. Yeah, I don't know why they neglect
Speaker 1: their health. And then they're like, what's the benefits of
Speaker 1: heaven and wife?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: We be keeping y'all niggas alive? Y'all? Are y'all kind
Speaker 1: of slow? Because why the fuck was you just sitting
Speaker 1: there and suffering and not go see about.
Speaker 2: It and just medicating? That is not how you heal
Speaker 2: your body. Yeah, you're just masking the problem.
Speaker 1: I remember one of my classmates she passed away, you know,
Speaker 1: as an adult now, but she was having some type
Speaker 1: of stomach issues and like, I don't know why been
Speaker 1: in Charleston like Goodie headache powders is like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: everybody takes a Goodie headache powder and some ginger ale
Speaker 1: for her stomach. When she passed, her stomach was full
Speaker 1: of Goodie headache powder acid essentially, that's all she was
Speaker 1: masking it, just having pain and just taking the medicine
Speaker 1: girl over the counter.
Speaker 2: Shit, that's crazy because this is a man that I know.
Speaker 2: He died for a brain aneurysm, and he was in
Speaker 2: his car when like he died in the car driving.
Speaker 2: When they found him, his car was covered with goodie
Speaker 2: powder empty packets because his brain was hurting. Your head
Speaker 2: was hurting so bad, and he was just taking goodie
Speaker 2: powders to mask the pain instead of going to your
Speaker 2: body was telling you it's something wrong. And instead of
Speaker 2: going to the doctor, you just taking drugs. Y'all, y'all,
Speaker 2: please everybody listening. If you are experiencing some type of
Speaker 2: pain or some type of ailment and you're just taking
Speaker 2: pain pills, go to the doctor. Your body is trying
Speaker 2: to tell you that there's something wrong.
Speaker 1: And you know, like in the movies, how to turn
Speaker 1: you around. Because you don't have health care. If you
Speaker 1: go to the emergency room, they're just going to give
Speaker 1: you a dumb ass bill, but they will see you.
Speaker 1: They got to see you. And on top of that,
Speaker 1: Obamacare still exists, right, so you still get Medicaid. Just
Speaker 1: people aren't applying. I've never not I think maybe I've
Speaker 1: been out without without insurance one time in life. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have like a deductible and she like that
Speaker 1: for labs and things like that listen that let that
Speaker 1: shit stack up and just be debt as opposed to
Speaker 1: your eyes dying. You'll figure it out. What everything the
Speaker 1: fuck else? Go to the doctor. What is happening to
Speaker 1: the doctor?
Speaker 2: I know? And then last thing, I had a friend
Speaker 2: who ended up dying from a heart issue and he
Speaker 2: used to be beating on his chest all the time
Speaker 2: and I and I'd be like, you need to go
Speaker 2: to a doctor. What you be doing that. He's like, man,
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for this insurance to kick in. You worried
Speaker 2: about money and end up dying from that heart issue
Speaker 2: instead of seeing the doctor nuts So so I customer out.
Speaker 2: But it was my thing is there's a better way
Speaker 2: to say how I feel. I gotta work on that.
Speaker 2: Instead of calling him a stupid motherfucker, I could have
Speaker 2: been like, you know, I want you to be here
Speaker 2: a long time and I care about you and that
Speaker 2: I don't want you to die or so. I don't
Speaker 2: know what I could have said, but something better than
Speaker 2: you know what, you're a stupid ass motherfucker.
Speaker 1: But had you but had you already said something to
Speaker 1: him before about it?
Speaker 2: Yes? I have.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's where it came from. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: exactly where it came from.
Speaker 2: Okay, well let's get in the sin as, y'all, because.
Speaker 1: We already did sentence, did we We have a talking
Speaker 1: about some bullshit for too long? All right, y'all shd
Speaker 1: damn y'all niggas talk too much?
Speaker 2: Right, we talked too much. That's what we need.
Speaker 1: The name show.
Speaker 2: Keep Sweat drags modern single lady. So Keep Sweat had
Speaker 2: to show y'all over the weekend or I think it
Speaker 2: might have been late last week. And he addressed the
Speaker 2: crowd and said that he was single, and he know
Speaker 2: how to wash his own clothes and he can cook
Speaker 2: his own food because these women now, they don't want
Speaker 2: to do nothing. They don't want to bring to the table.
Speaker 2: They don't want to iron his clothes, they don't want
Speaker 2: to cook him no meal. And he said he's done
Speaker 2: with too many entitlement things. You got to bring something
Speaker 2: to the table to get something from me. They don't
Speaker 2: want to cook no more. I washed my own clothes,
Speaker 2: iron my own clothes. Gotta do something for me.
Speaker 1: Have you ever known any woman to be associated with
Speaker 1: Keith Sweat like? Has he just been a batch his
Speaker 1: entire life?
Speaker 2: I can't think of nobody me either. Okay, so his
Speaker 2: persona maybe he was, like, you know, he is the
Speaker 2: lover boy, so heaven right would probably mess with his
Speaker 2: you know, identity as that lover boy.
Speaker 1: Okay, lover boys and now here you are? How old
Speaker 1: is Keith Sweat? Let's school? How old is Keith?
Speaker 2: While you google that, let me tell you I remember
Speaker 2: the only thing I was Steve three.
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2: My daddy when I was little, I always used to
Speaker 2: remember my daddy saying, I hate this begging ass motherfucker,
Speaker 2: like everybody used to say that, all the parents. That's
Speaker 2: what I remember about Keith Sweating. As a kid. My
Speaker 2: daddy would always talk about the big always begging, wow, listen,
Speaker 2: which is to do anything he's sticking y'all.
Speaker 1: First of all, women who are sixty three are not
Speaker 1: modern women. Women who are sixty three cook clean and
Speaker 1: do all the fucking things. So who is his target market?
Speaker 1: Who is he actually dating that isn't doing anything for him?
Speaker 2: Us?
Speaker 1: Exactly? He's dating young and even us our age group. Okay,
Speaker 1: I would I would beg to differ, okay, that he's
Speaker 1: dating women even younger than us.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: At sixty three years old because he think he looks
Speaker 1: young because he dies his hair. You are old, fart.
Speaker 1: I need you to chill out and get a woman
Speaker 1: at least fifty, at least fifty. But they don't want
Speaker 1: fifty year old women. They still want to chase and
Speaker 1: do the like Shannon Sharp when he was talking to
Speaker 1: who is he talking to? And they would They basically said, damn,
Speaker 1: you'd be Uh you date the same age girls I date.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What do you think you're gonna get? Those are fun
Speaker 1: girls you're not even dating because they're even in those
Speaker 1: age ranges. There are mature women right who got the
Speaker 1: shit together, who do all the things in a relationship.
Speaker 1: Those aren't the women you're going for. You are going
Speaker 1: for the women that you got to take care of, okay,
Speaker 1: And they just come and they look pretty all right.
Speaker 2: They come here to cook you no food, Yes the
Speaker 2: fuck what you thought? Make reservations?
Speaker 1: Yes, what you said last week? Make it mean uber
Speaker 1: or dash? Yeah, that's about it. What are you really
Speaker 1: looking for? These men have to really be honest with themselves.
Speaker 1: Just say I'm full of shit and this is what
Speaker 1: I like. I mean because I'm a woman whose father
Speaker 1: is seventy five and his wife is the same age
Speaker 1: as she's in between my two sisters, Sam's forty six,
Speaker 1: forty five, and I think my oldest sister's forty nine.
Speaker 1: So my step mom quote unquote is your peer. She's
Speaker 1: my peer, and she's in between the two of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she she cooked, so does my dad, like they
Speaker 1: do all the things. So you can find a woman, right,
Speaker 1: a little younger than you, who's who does the things.
Speaker 1: That's not what he's looking for. That's not, obviously not
Speaker 1: who he's dating to sit up on stage in front
Speaker 1: of all these women and talk about what modern women
Speaker 1: aren't doing. Right, modern women be cooking. I don't these
Speaker 1: niggas be lying on the.
Speaker 2: Woman be cooking?
Speaker 1: Who they have been lying on us since Adam and Eve.
Speaker 1: These niggas is walking around with the apple and they
Speaker 1: fucking neck and saying that we ate the apple they
Speaker 1: literally got.
Speaker 2: I need y'all to look when y'all stop, when this
Speaker 2: is over, I want y'all to look around at all
Speaker 2: the men. They ain't got no more Adam's apple. I
Speaker 2: don't see them no more. They gone.
Speaker 1: I see them on some men, some men and something
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we might be a little bit chunkier nowadays.
Speaker 1: Also the neck kind of fat. But I do see
Speaker 1: men with Adam's apples. You see that, Look.
Speaker 2: At it, Look at that cloud though they look like
Speaker 2: jay Z And then I'll be looking at I have no.
Speaker 1: It's gone evolution, y'all are like for some reason, Uh,
Speaker 1: something's happening. And the men want to be caddled like
Speaker 1: children and they want to be treated like bad bitches.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening, and that's why the Adams. Yes, they
Speaker 1: turn it into women. We might fuck around and start
Speaker 1: getting Adams apples, right, but yeah, quite lying on us.
Speaker 1: Stop lying on us. Women's ally, dudes lie like a rug.
Speaker 2: So now this kind of pissed me off, this one
Speaker 2: right here. Cocoa Golf won the French Open over the weekend,
Speaker 2: and she manifested that ship because she even had a
Speaker 2: piece of paper write that I will win the French
Speaker 2: Open five yeah, right down. Yeah. And this girl who
Speaker 2: she played against, I can't pronounce her name. I'm a
Speaker 2: mess it up, Arna Arnia erna sublinka. She gonna say
Speaker 2: that Coco didn't play a good game. She just played
Speaker 2: a bad game. Basically, Cocoa ain't good and she just
Speaker 2: she's better than Coco. She just played a bad game.
Speaker 2: My girl takes the l And first of all, Coco
Speaker 2: has beat you before. Did you play a bad game then, too, bitch? Like?
Speaker 2: Are you always playing bad games against Coco? Girl?
Speaker 1: So you know this is where bad thing where you know,
Speaker 1: children are now being caddled more thinking everybody can be
Speaker 1: a winner. And this is what happens when they grow up, right,
Speaker 1: and they're unable to accept when they fucking lost because
Speaker 1: everybody cannot win every time. You're not gonna always win.
Speaker 1: And if you don't show gratitude for the winners, you'll
Speaker 1: never be a winner again.
Speaker 2: Right. Let me tell you then, participation trophies was the
Speaker 2: worst thing that happened to these kids. Once they started
Speaker 2: getting everybody in a ribbon that field day, it's over
Speaker 2: for us to get a ribbon. You don't deserve one
Speaker 2: if you did not win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you didn't win the super Bowl, you can't
Speaker 1: go to the White House. Not everybody go to the
Speaker 1: white House. You know what I'm saying, Both like ship
Speaker 1: like that. That is not how it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: There are winners and then there are losers. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna always be be a winner, and you won't always
Speaker 1: be a loser.
Speaker 2: And then think about taking the l gracefully. It makes you,
Speaker 2: it keeps you humble, and it makes the win you
Speaker 2: do win, it makes it that much better. Like you
Speaker 2: gotta take your l's gracefully. You gotta be prideful and
Speaker 2: congratulate the winner always. So so Blinko or whatever your
Speaker 2: name is, girl, that was what you said. I know
Speaker 2: you was upset. I imagine you made it all the
Speaker 2: way to the top just to get beat by this beautiful, black,
Speaker 2: bad black dude. You mad.
Speaker 1: I get it, but I don't get him.
Speaker 2: I get why she was mad. She lost. Nobody likes losing,
Speaker 2: but you could have handled that much better, woy. A
Speaker 2: joyful loser is very rare, but you don't have to
Speaker 2: be a bitch about it.
Speaker 1: So, Wendy Williams ex Kevin Hunter. He is planning to
Speaker 1: do a tell all interview. I wonder what this may
Speaker 1: consist of. Kevin Hunter is reportedly preparing for a one
Speaker 1: on one interview with Gail King to speak his truth.
Speaker 1: I cannot stand that thing that's saying that's my truth.
Speaker 1: This might I can't stand it because your truth oftentimes
Speaker 1: could be a very very much so a lie, So
Speaker 1: it says. Interview with King is expected to touch on
Speaker 1: deeply personal and public chapters of his life. Those specific
Speaker 1: details have not been released. Who has just started pouring
Speaker 1: down ring? Can you hear that? Hunter has been in
Speaker 1: the spotlight due to his legal battle with debmar Mercury.
Speaker 1: The producers of the Wenny Williams show okay following the
Speaker 1: divorce of Wendy Williams in twenty nineteen. So y'all know,
Speaker 1: Wendy Williams is making her a little comeback. She gets
Speaker 1: she getting her freedom back, literally, right, And I wouldn't
Speaker 1: doubt that he was probably a part of the reason
Speaker 1: why she ended up ended up in this predicament anyway,
Speaker 1: you know, just the heartache, the betrayal. That shit can
Speaker 1: lead you down a very dark road, y'all. God never
Speaker 1: let the devil sit back next to him, because betrayal
Speaker 1: is the ultimate sin. Okay, So you can't come back
Speaker 1: around me once you have betrayed me. Right, So he's
Speaker 1: married to his side bitch now who he had living
Speaker 1: down the street from them. They have a baby together.
Speaker 1: You don't really even who are you without Wendy Williams right,
Speaker 1: And this is why he's just still harping on this,
Speaker 1: like I just don't between this shit right here, and
Speaker 1: then like the shit that's going on with remym and
Speaker 1: Pappoof's like where is the love? Where is is the love?
Speaker 2: There's a thin line where about that? That ship is
Speaker 2: so fucking thin it's scary.
Speaker 1: Yes, Like you mean to tell me we we are
Speaker 1: no longer and now we're just gonna go on this
Speaker 1: disparaging rampage against each other. That shit is everybody, see,
Speaker 1: I like wreak up.
Speaker 2: I pray over myself that that, you know, if I
Speaker 2: ever First of all, I pray that when I actually
Speaker 2: meet my husband we stay together forever. And if we don't,
Speaker 2: that is never like that just amicable.
Speaker 1: We don't got you know what I'm saying. We enjoyed
Speaker 1: each other, We appreciate each other, the time we spend
Speaker 1: and move on.
Speaker 2: So it says, go ahead, well and then I'll, you know,
Speaker 2: and I will be a pleasant widow because that's the
Speaker 2: only way you're going anyway.
Speaker 1: I'd be listen, y'all think I'd be playing. But I
Speaker 1: don't even like losing friends. And shit like that because
Speaker 1: I'd be not and shared all my intimate details about
Speaker 1: my life with the motherfucker. Now we're not friends no more.
Speaker 1: I be waiting on some ship like this, if shit,
Speaker 1: you're real popping or it's like this is the type
Speaker 1: of shit like I got him for h money for
Speaker 1: So since leaving the show, Hunter has faced financial challenges.
Speaker 1: So this is this is when the bullshit start happening, right,
Speaker 1: So now you need some money, including selling his Florida
Speaker 1: home and dealing with legal action over alleged credit card debt.
Speaker 1: The interview with Gail King could shed new light on
Speaker 1: both Kevin Hunters and Wendy Williams lives following their divorce
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty after over two decades of marriage, which
Speaker 1: ended due to Hunter's infidelity and birth of a child
Speaker 1: with another woman. So you destroyed our marriage. Now they
Speaker 1: always had like a little they should always was kind
Speaker 1: of iffy, But you destroyed our shit. You start a
Speaker 1: whole new family, and that's not enough for you. You
Speaker 1: gotta destroy me too, right, He's the worst type of person,
Speaker 1: like the beef he had with Charlemagne. Like this nigga,
Speaker 1: this this, this, this nigga is like he's just not
Speaker 1: a good person. He's not a good person, like unless
Speaker 1: day he'd be trying to destroy Charlamagne.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's gonna get paid for this particular interview,
Speaker 2: and he need the money. But I can't wait to
Speaker 2: hear what the story is, what he gonna say.
Speaker 1: He ain't got nothing to say. Just take your fucking
Speaker 1: l and go. What's wrong with people not being able
Speaker 1: to take their l's? Just go? You got what you wanted, right,
Speaker 1: No he wants more apparently, yeah, because he ain't got
Speaker 1: no money to take care of that girl no more.
Speaker 1: She probably ain't working nowhere. You just over here struggling
Speaker 1: with the old nigga. Now, I'll be damn.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, this is the last thing I
Speaker 2: want to do. So I keep seeing people talk shit
Speaker 2: about Tyler Perry, and I know, stay for that, because
Speaker 2: one Tyler Perry employees black people and it almost seems
Speaker 2: like nothing but us. And when he pays, he pays
Speaker 2: people what they're worth, and he tells our stories, people
Speaker 2: are like, oh he he capitalizes on black trauma, Like
Speaker 2: these stories ain't really happening, Like he ain't making this
Speaker 2: shut up. Black women go through a lot of shit,
Speaker 2: But tell me a story where he didn't have the
Speaker 2: black woman come out on top for the most part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's yeah, they be coming out on top
Speaker 1: sometimes and then sometimes it's still kind of disparaging sometimes, Yeah.
Speaker 2: But is that not real life? Is that not real life? Though?
Speaker 1: I guess I think the problem is because I just
Speaker 1: had this conversation with a friend yesterday, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: why white people don't feel like that, like somebody's exploiting
Speaker 1: them about their movies because it's coming from one person
Speaker 1: though that the type of the genre is coming from
Speaker 1: one one studio, one production, right Whereas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's the only studio doing black stories a lot.
Speaker 2: And I guess that that's where we need.
Speaker 1: We need variety, right, we need to make sure we're
Speaker 1: showing all aspects, but black lives.
Speaker 2: Because what's her name, marl Bora could kill She makes
Speaker 2: movies and shows and she just did Forever that was
Speaker 2: a beautiful story about blackness that it wasn't It wasn't
Speaker 2: anybody in there depicted in a way that was disparaging. Yeah, So,
Speaker 2: and it's more true stories. Maybe Tyler Perry makes stories
Speaker 2: about black female trauma, because that's what he knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you know.
Speaker 2: So I don't like when they talk about him. And
Speaker 2: then here's another thing that he did. He always poured
Speaker 2: back into our community. He always keeps us employed. He
Speaker 2: gave Simbad. Tim Bad was in a movie Simbad had
Speaker 2: a massive stroke five years ago. When nobody's checking for
Speaker 2: Simbad or trying to help Simbad. But and his role
Speaker 2: in the movie was very small, but he was like, look,
Speaker 2: I got to check for you, Simbad because I love you.
Speaker 2: I've seen what you've done for our community. You brought
Speaker 2: a lot of way. I'm gonna make sure some money
Speaker 2: in your pocket. Who else doing that? Y'all? Please don't
Speaker 2: play with me by Tyler Perry. Okay, who else doing that? Nobody?
Speaker 1: Don't don't play with time by Tyler Perry. Chill, I
Speaker 1: ain't playing with you by Tyler Perry. Got it?
Speaker 2: Okay? Thank you? Because I love him? You got it?
Speaker 1: Girls, when we talk about the day, because I'm scared.
Speaker 2: Acrimony, perfect segue. Bitch, were getting into the movie Acrimony,
Speaker 2: another movie about a black woman.
Speaker 1: Not just scoring a dumb bitch. We'll get into it
Speaker 1: after this commercial. I'll be right back.
Speaker 2: All right, y'all. So people were in the ds d
Speaker 2: M saying they really loved our movie breakdown episodes, and
Speaker 2: I love them too, because you know, I love me
Speaker 2: a movie and I'm you don't want to be in
Speaker 2: him Tyler Perry. So I wanted to break down acrimony
Speaker 2: because that just really aligns with what we'd be talking
Speaker 2: about on this show when it comes to relationships and
Speaker 2: how shit be going sometimes. So I want to talk
Speaker 2: about the alright. So if you haven't seen it, go
Speaker 2: watch it and then come back to this episode, because.
Speaker 1: Y'all seen them wigs in acrimony. Y'all had to have
Speaker 1: seen acrimony. It's been a couple of years now. I
Speaker 1: thought there was going to be an acrimony too.
Speaker 2: I was hoping that would be acrimony to where she
Speaker 2: didn't get she didn't die. First of all, this is
Speaker 2: such a sad story because do you feel like either
Speaker 2: character was wrong? All right, let's talk about the plot.
Speaker 2: Acrimony is about a loyal wife, Melinda, who becomes increasingly
Speaker 2: unhinged after feeling betrayed by her husband Robert, following years
Speaker 2: of personal and financial sacrifice to support his dreams. All right,
Speaker 2: So Milenda me's Robert in college after a word or
Speaker 2: when romance. She supports him financially, even using her inheritance,
Speaker 2: while he works on his inventuring the battery. They struggle
Speaker 2: financially for years, and Melinda eventually divorces Robert. After divorce,
Speaker 2: Robert's invention finally pays off, and he becomes a wealthy
Speaker 2: man that marries another woman, a woman that he had
Speaker 2: cheated on her with when they were younger. Melinda spirals
Speaker 2: into rage and obsession, believing she was old. More than
Speaker 2: just money, she wanted the life she helped build. The
Speaker 2: story ends in tragedy, with Melinda's mental state completely unraveling. Okay, so.
Speaker 1: In the beginning of Acrimony, we saw how crazy Melinda was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was always a little rammed his trailer off of
Speaker 1: a cliff, did he not not because he was in
Speaker 1: there with a woman another woman? Right, So we knew
Speaker 1: she was capable of being crazy, and she.
Speaker 2: Hurt herself to so much to the point where she
Speaker 2: could never conceive by doing that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, that's on you. You know, that's on you, even.
Speaker 1: If you take accountability for that.
Speaker 2: Nope, Okay, so I would say, Melinda has mental health
Speaker 2: issues always hey, or you just know you ain't supposed
Speaker 2: to play with her, sir.
Speaker 1: Her and his man was married for a very long time.
Speaker 1: And I think this kind of it kind of like
Speaker 1: it definitely depicts how women put their partners before them, right.
Speaker 1: So it is like, it is hurtful when I see
Speaker 1: men say what is the benefit of marriage and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, because it is a big sacrifice for women.
Speaker 1: We sacrifice our bodies, the children. I have seen this
Speaker 1: post the other day. This girl was like, this is
Speaker 1: a video of a woman saying she lost all of
Speaker 1: her teeth okay, during pregnancy due to vitamin deficiency, and
Speaker 1: men out here saying why do I need to get married?
Speaker 1: Why do I need to Why do I need to uh,
Speaker 1: why need to go fifty fifty? Or even why do
Speaker 1: I have to finance this woman's entire life? We we
Speaker 1: literally sacrifice our lives for everybody else. I'm leaning to
Speaker 1: wars not wanting to do that. Okay, nowadays it's crazy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, that's why I got
Speaker 1: to draw the line at my goddamn teeth.
Speaker 2: Right, I love my teeth, But think about it, I've like,
Speaker 2: especially we're doing here. I've seen women lose all their
Speaker 2: hair after having a baby. I've seen them have like
Speaker 2: complete back lee actly covering their whole back and ship
Speaker 2: like just all kind of stuff that happens to your
Speaker 2: body even after after the baby that left it out
Speaker 2: of the body and it's still being affected.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you're not the same person. You literally you
Speaker 1: were single and now you're a mom and your wife.
Speaker 1: I'm not the same person.
Speaker 2: And my edge is gone, and my teeth man ship,
Speaker 2: and my back looked like brow.
Speaker 1: You don't even notice like who you are anymore. And
Speaker 1: you got a baby hanging off your titties like.
Speaker 2: A stranger hanging off your body because they're not your
Speaker 2: y'all just met and.
Speaker 1: You got you have a group of people in this
Speaker 1: world who think that being a female, being a woman,
Speaker 1: being a human adult female is just an aesthetic.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I was watching Jason Lee Hollywood Unlocked with Yeah it's
Speaker 1: crazy here Hollywood on Locked with can his Owens on there,
Speaker 1: and she was like, well, why can't Rachel Dozel say
Speaker 1: that she's black if women can, if men can say
Speaker 1: that they're women, a woman like he was like, no,
Speaker 1: that's not the same thing. It is exactly the same thing, Right,
Speaker 1: I can be something because I feel like that's what
Speaker 1: I am. And then Jason he made a statement. I
Speaker 1: was so disgusted. He was like, I mean, I know
Speaker 1: some of the trans girl who even do it better
Speaker 1: than better than actual women? Do what better than actual women?
Speaker 1: Just look like a woman? That is what you think
Speaker 1: being a woman is. Y'all can never deal with half
Speaker 1: of this shit women deal with on a daily basis,
Speaker 1: Like we'd be walking around hemorrhaging and acting like ain't
Speaker 1: nothing going on, Okay, still doing all the things, taking
Speaker 1: care of kids, working, working out, just all the things.
Speaker 1: We still doing it hemorrhaging and an actual fucking pain
Speaker 1: all day all day. Yeah, I agree, But you think
Speaker 1: just doing away, going and sebilistic and address is doing
Speaker 1: it better than an actual woman. Listen, that's how you
Speaker 1: know women are the gods on the planet because these
Speaker 1: niggas literally.
Speaker 2: And that's hurtful to say. And I don't think people
Speaker 2: understand like what it really entails. And that's why they
Speaker 2: say stuff like that, because it's like talking to a
Speaker 2: fish and asking a fish what water is. They don't
Speaker 2: know because they in it. You know, like, you can't
Speaker 2: explain it to them, so I don't even try. All right,
Speaker 2: So did Melinda deserve more than just compensation?
Speaker 1: Okay? So once her husband once Robert like sold his invention,
Speaker 1: which didn't come until after she had left him, right,
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. Sometimes you may have to
Speaker 1: leave people for them to reach their full potential for
Speaker 1: things to happen. It may not was it probably wasn't
Speaker 1: supposed to happen with them together in the first place.
Speaker 1: But they were trying to stay together, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, while the whole time he's going through this transition,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, trying to get somebody to buy
Speaker 1: into his invention and all that, and the minute they
Speaker 1: break up, it happens.
Speaker 2: But it's just the other woman to come along, That's
Speaker 2: what That's what's so crazy how it got worked sometime
Speaker 2: because it took this other woman who was already a
Speaker 2: part of this company to you know, give help him
Speaker 2: with the opportunity to even be seen because he stayed
Speaker 2: with Melinda, that probably would have never happened, you know, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, it could have still had like it was happening
Speaker 1: when he was kind of with her. Did he did
Speaker 1: he did he meet the lady after Melinda left him?
Speaker 1: He already knew her. I think no, he ran into
Speaker 1: Was this not the bitch that was in the trailer?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, so look so now years later you run into
Speaker 1: your old thing and she's actually working at the place
Speaker 1: you was trying to get your foot in for all
Speaker 1: this time. That's what I'm saying, Like, sometimes the relationship,
Speaker 1: the relationships you were in, will shape your life. So
Speaker 1: it was a negative for Melinda, it was more of
Speaker 1: a positive for him. He used her, He used her youth,
Speaker 1: he used her life for us. He saw how crazy
Speaker 1: she started looking at the house. He put her house
Speaker 1: up for sale, her mama's house.
Speaker 2: She did that.
Speaker 1: She mortgaged the house. Yeah, she mortgaged the house. They
Speaker 1: were about to lose their home.
Speaker 2: They did lose it.
Speaker 1: They they ended up they ended up buying it back,
Speaker 1: or he ended up buying it back. And and once
Speaker 1: he got all the money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he bought it back for her. Yeah, they lose it.
Speaker 1: So she she literally gave her entire life to him.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And then down Now, you can't say that that woman
Speaker 2: wouldn't do whatever for him. She did it all. She
Speaker 2: took she took care of him while he was trying to,
Speaker 2: you know, get his invention off.
Speaker 1: The because she believed in him.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So you have these men on these podcasts telling women,
Speaker 1: you know, stop dating for potential stuff like that the
Speaker 1: man has to do this. But then on the other hand,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, y'all, y'all, y'all want somebody who's already together,
Speaker 1: like you just want to come in and kick your
Speaker 1: feet up. Like there's no right or wrong in any
Speaker 1: of these situations. But women are definitely damned if we
Speaker 1: do and damned if we don't. You picked wrong, y'all
Speaker 1: need to make better decisions. You did all that for
Speaker 1: the wrong nigga, It's not true, like you just never know.
Speaker 2: You never know, you never know because pet Poofs and
Speaker 2: really remind doing this was never on my bingo card.
Speaker 2: I always thought they were like, always be together and
Speaker 2: be quiet about the things that because there's no doubt
Speaker 2: in my mind that pet Poofs had other things going on, absolutely,
Speaker 2: but they were very respectful about it. What happened to
Speaker 2: the respect you know, saying.
Speaker 1: You don't remember when Jada Janat pinked and Will Smith
Speaker 1: was going through the whole Uh what does she call
Speaker 1: it an entanglement when they were going through that whole debacle, Like,
Speaker 1: there is no doubt in my mind that there was
Speaker 1: an outside entity, right that exposed all us. It wasn't
Speaker 1: them in their marriage. Jada didn't do it. Will didn't
Speaker 1: do it. Oh boy did it. What's his name? August
Speaker 1: August Asina. He put them on blast. He put the
Speaker 1: relationship with Jada Pikan on blast kind of right, So
Speaker 1: she was like hanging out with him, but that was
Speaker 1: her son's friend also, right, But when when Will Smith?
Speaker 1: When when the chick hit the fan? Right? I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure through all these years of marriage, Will Smith has
Speaker 1: done things in that marriage. But what Jada didn't do
Speaker 1: is take it as an opportunity to disparage him. Once
Speaker 1: her ship was on the forefront, she took accountability for it.
Speaker 1: She didn't get online and say, well, this was during
Speaker 1: a time when you was fucking so so and so so.
Speaker 1: I needed attention then, and this is why this happened.
Speaker 2: She didn't do it.
Speaker 1: She just took her fucking l and she kept her
Speaker 1: mouth shut.
Speaker 2: And when I was raking her over the colds.
Speaker 1: Yes, and never once did she come out and say, well, y'all,
Speaker 1: Will Smith ain't fucking innocent, right, not one time? But
Speaker 1: I just want men to like, ain't no way in
Speaker 1: the in hell men think Will Smith is innocent and
Speaker 1: hadn't done anything. I think that for years they had
Speaker 1: this open relationship type situation that people thought existed. Wasn't sure,
Speaker 1: but maybe it was one of those like not don't
Speaker 1: ask on tail, but like or maybe ask before you
Speaker 1: do this bullshit. And she basically she led somebody in
Speaker 1: their relationship who had something, who didn't have nothing to lose. Basically,
Speaker 1: you gotta fuck with people who lost something to lose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a fucking kid. So I think that's the
Speaker 1: difference between her bullshit and will Smith bullshit. Girl, why
Speaker 1: are you fucking on this child?
Speaker 2: Was Melinda a victim marvillain?
Speaker 1: I think she was both. I think she was both
Speaker 1: because I feel like after she knocked his trailer like
Speaker 1: earlier on, he should have never engaged with her ever again,
Speaker 1: Like that should have been it. You know, it's not.
Speaker 1: That's not really love. That is possession.
Speaker 2: Yeah you tried to murder me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, people, that's that's being very much possessive, right, so
Speaker 1: the signs were there earlier on that she was capable
Speaker 1: of some some real bullshit. And do y'all really want
Speaker 1: a woman that follows you blindly?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that means if somebody else comes along that
Speaker 1: talks a good game, she could be suited over there,
Speaker 1: if it sounds a little bit better. Y'all don't want
Speaker 1: somebody who just blindly follows people, right, They think that's
Speaker 1: what they want. They think they want a dumb bitch
Speaker 1: until you actually get one, and then you be on
Speaker 1: the phone complaining with the bitch with depth, right, talking
Speaker 1: shit about your wife or girlfriend with that person, Tiler,
Speaker 1: flip it over.
Speaker 2: That's what happened.
Speaker 1: So I do think she was she was made to
Speaker 1: be the villain in this movie because she was the
Speaker 1: one doing the most damage, right, acting the craziest. So
Speaker 1: she was the villain in the movie. But I feel
Speaker 1: like her husband, I probably would consider him a villain too.
Speaker 1: Why you depleted her life source?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: I don't understand everything she had?
Speaker 2: Why you wasn't working, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Who and nobody gets to just sit and chase their
Speaker 1: dreams like you got to do both? You could have
Speaker 1: been working at McDonald's someplace else. Like he literally was
Speaker 1: just fixated on this thing. And when you when you
Speaker 1: are fixated on a thing, it is bound to That
Speaker 1: is what makes things happen. It's consistency, right, it's doing
Speaker 1: it every fucking day, not knowing the outcome. It will
Speaker 1: eventually happen, but it could be twenty years, right, you
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. It could take a very long
Speaker 1: time for things to come to fruition. And she's stuck
Speaker 1: in there the entire time, and he's take He's.
Speaker 2: In her ear too. She had her sisters in her
Speaker 2: ear like telling her, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it didn't make sense to anybody. How does
Speaker 1: this make sense to anybody?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I get it. But then when he was all
Speaker 2: bossed up, everybody was looking stupid, you know.
Speaker 1: But it took him how many years to get bossed up?
Speaker 1: Twenty years? That is excessive. So he should he at
Speaker 1: some point he should have like, hey, I need to
Speaker 1: help my family, I need to help my wife. Let
Speaker 1: me take Let me not do this all day long
Speaker 1: and go work. This is the equivalent to a nigga
Speaker 1: playing PlayStation all day long while you're working. And he
Speaker 1: got your car, and shit, it's the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's better, right because he has an actual invention, he
Speaker 1: has an actual vision, he's driven, he has purpose.
Speaker 2: And he's smart. You know, like this is something that
Speaker 2: could really work, but it.
Speaker 1: Took too fucking long. Yeah that is like she should
Speaker 1: have never stuck in there that long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you can work on that after work, after work. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's all the after work time to that. But you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to help around here. I can't just do
Speaker 2: it by myself.
Speaker 1: And I know it's a movie, but listen, you got
Speaker 1: niggas who be spending a girlfriend's tax return on studio
Speaker 1: time and she over there in the corner cheering them on,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and he's ever what s
Speaker 1: y'all mean? Little phrase was in his first book. Uh,
Speaker 1: fuck your dreams. That might be somebody else's dream. Okay,
Speaker 1: it may never work for you. Fuck your dreams. You
Speaker 1: gotta be realistic sometimes something like that. Listen, you have
Speaker 1: to be realistic, except but you also have to be
Speaker 1: delusional about your dream though. Yeah, not on somebody else's dying.
Speaker 1: He would have never been able to do any of
Speaker 1: those things if she didn't exist if he was sitting
Speaker 1: there in.
Speaker 2: A house, that he delusion, delusional about your dream on
Speaker 2: somebody else's dying, by all means do it?
Speaker 1: No, that that's abuse. What the hell by all means doing?
Speaker 2: Listen, in business, they say don't use your own money,
Speaker 2: use somebody else's all the time.
Speaker 1: You and your we're talking about a husband and wife, tammy, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're not talking about going to bank for a loan. Okay,
Speaker 1: these motherfuckers was about to be popers. That's how much
Speaker 1: he drained her because he didn't have any money to
Speaker 1: do these things. I know these people in real life.
Speaker 1: This is why I sound like this right now. I'm
Speaker 1: the fucking lutley who be going very close okay, who'll
Speaker 1: be going through. And I want her to get a
Speaker 1: new husband. She should have been had a new husband.
Speaker 2: Rap.
Speaker 1: No, he don't wrap, but he can't keep a goddamn job.
Speaker 1: And you always funding and finance in his fucking dreams. Yes,
Speaker 1: I know these people, and she she hasn't reached her
Speaker 1: full potential because that energy has been in her life
Speaker 1: for twenty years. I feel like she should be way further.
Speaker 1: She's fucking she's an intellectual, she's really really smart. But
Speaker 1: this is the dumbest part of her life.
Speaker 2: Love, you know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, Like, No, this is not like going to a bank.
Speaker 1: This is in your household. You don't use somebody. You
Speaker 1: don't use people, and people are meant to be used.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: If you can't be used, you're just a fucking as
Speaker 1: You're just a liability. He was a fucking liability. She
Speaker 1: couldn't use him.
Speaker 2: I think you should use each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she wasn't getting nothing out of it, right, yeah
Speaker 1: at that time. Okay, so now, yeah, you got all
Speaker 1: the money. He wrote her a big check to pay
Speaker 1: for all the things that was I now, y'all not together,
Speaker 1: your shit blew up? You give her the check, understandable, right.
Speaker 1: That wasn't enough for her because she still loved him.
Speaker 1: She wanted her man to and the good life.
Speaker 2: Now you get to be like, oh, yeah, this emotional
Speaker 2: investment that wasn't paid on. Yes, that's really what it was.
Speaker 2: It was no money that could have satisfied how she
Speaker 2: felt because it was the emotional investment that was missing
Speaker 2: for her.
Speaker 1: And this is why I always say I'm okay with
Speaker 1: giving a a woman a refurbished man, Right, because maybe
Speaker 1: you're not meant to do the things with me, And
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, right, So you're gonna go on.
Speaker 1: You're gonna learn from this relationship and you're gonna be
Speaker 1: a better man to the next woman. If you keep saying, oh, now,
Speaker 1: if you keep thinking about what that person is gonna do,
Speaker 1: they're gonna do better now and with somebody else. If
Speaker 1: you keep thinking of wanting to return on your investment,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be disappointed all the time. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: like Melinda. So you gotta be okay with leaving somebody
Speaker 1: when things are right aren't right with y'all together?
Speaker 2: And you can't give so much of yourself that you
Speaker 2: have resentment to this level exactly.
Speaker 1: We talked about this the other day, Like, yeah, like,
Speaker 1: don't do don't do anything if it's not from the heart,
Speaker 1: you know, and don't do if you expect return.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if it is from the heart, don't overextend
Speaker 2: yourself to the point where you feel this inful because
Speaker 2: it can happen. It can happen, and you look up
Speaker 2: and you've given a man your best years and he
Speaker 2: go off to be happy with somebody else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you gotta be okay with that possibility. Don't
Speaker 1: stay in a relationship because you're you feel like, man,
Speaker 1: if we break up, what's she going to go do
Speaker 1: better with somebody else? You gotta be okay with that,
Speaker 1: Go get better with somebody else. Do it too exactly,
Speaker 1: So you're thinking a little bit too little of yourself
Speaker 1: if you think that you can't get into another relationship
Speaker 1: where things are better for you as well.
Speaker 2: So was that in an innocent party or a homewrecker?
Speaker 2: I believe she was an innocent party, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. She had the tools that he needed and
Speaker 2: if you're my friend, why wouldn't I help you? And
Speaker 2: that home was already read by the time they started,
Speaker 2: you know, exactly in a romantic way. That home was
Speaker 2: already broken.
Speaker 1: And he didn't want to break up. He didn't want
Speaker 1: to break out with Melnda. He wasn't really trying to
Speaker 1: leave her. So that's what that's the part where he's
Speaker 1: a villain because he was using her, right he he doesn't.
Speaker 1: He may not see it that way, and people watching
Speaker 1: the movie may not see it that way. He definitely
Speaker 1: used the hell out of his wife, and she allowed
Speaker 1: him to use her because he because she believed in him.
Speaker 2: But that's why he tried to wrote her check for
Speaker 2: like what, ten million dollars. He bought her house back.
Speaker 2: You know, he tried to make amends for all the
Speaker 2: years of abuse, you know, financial abuse. He tried to
Speaker 2: make amends for that, but there was no amends to
Speaker 2: be made because what she wanted didn't have a dollar
Speaker 2: amount on it. He wanted the life that was promised
Speaker 2: to her. She wanted to house him by, she wanted
Speaker 2: the boat, and he gave all this to this other
Speaker 2: woman and the baby that she could never have. That
Speaker 2: girl was in the courtroom chastising her, rubbing her belly,
Speaker 2: looking at her baby. I know that pissed, and that
Speaker 2: would have pisce anybody off right, because she knows she
Speaker 2: can't mother a child. And this is the same woman
Speaker 2: that you cheated on me with and had me go to.
Speaker 2: Now she had to take account of what she did
Speaker 2: because you can't have a baby because you drive, like
Speaker 2: anybody who drive a car into a building.
Speaker 1: A baby. You need therapy, y'all. Somebody I remember somebody
Speaker 1: had commented on Instagram. I just started thinking about just now,
Speaker 1: when you were talking about the girl rubbing the belly.
Speaker 1: Somebody had commented it was like AJ seemed like she
Speaker 1: got built up or bent up, anger or something inside.
Speaker 1: I really don't. But let me tell y'all how people
Speaker 1: be fucking with me? Right because I know who I
Speaker 1: am and they can't, so they really try real hard
Speaker 1: to fuck with me. Don't y'all know? My ex sent
Speaker 1: me a picture of him he delivered his child after
Speaker 1: we broke up. Right, He had a baby, got somebody pregnant,
Speaker 1: had another baby, third baby, third baby, Mama nigga. He
Speaker 1: was not the prize. He sent me a picture delivering
Speaker 1: this baby at the house. He sent me a picture
Speaker 1: of this baby straight out the pussy, like the girl's
Speaker 1: foot amiotic fluid was on the floor. The girl's foot
Speaker 1: was in the picture. But you sent my mom on
Speaker 1: the regularized picture with the baby would close on and
Speaker 1: shit like that, like what the fuck? Like that type
Speaker 1: of ship will make you kill.
Speaker 2: A nigga's because he knew how you wanted to be.
Speaker 1: It's not And you know, I still I realize now
Speaker 1: that things aren't supposed to happen because you're not. You're
Speaker 1: not in a situation you're supposed to be in for
Speaker 1: it to fucking happen, right, So I was never supposed
Speaker 1: to have his child. It wasn't that I wanted a
Speaker 1: child so bad. It's my subconscious mind not allowing it
Speaker 1: to happen because I wasn't where I was supposed to
Speaker 1: be at, right, That's all it is. We determine when
Speaker 1: we're gonna have kids for real, and women do have
Speaker 1: to be comfortable to conceive and I wasn't. But the
Speaker 1: nerve of you, son of a bitch send me that
Speaker 1: fucking picture with that, I just couldn't believe it. This
Speaker 1: ship was fucking funny as it held to me. But
Speaker 1: this you and I went through the fucking fire with
Speaker 1: a nigga, and this is how it will repay you,
Speaker 1: because why you think I want to see that? And
Speaker 1: then I had to also think like maybe he didn't
Speaker 1: even think about it like that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But then I just knowing his uh, like the routine
Speaker 1: bullshit from him. He definitely did that on purpose.
Speaker 2: Yeah he did, and that was hurtful. Weird, Oh shit,
Speaker 2: that was hurtful. Yeah, that's how people be fucking me.
Speaker 2: So it's not bent up anger because I talk about
Speaker 2: my shit bitch. So it's not something that's like settling inside.
Speaker 2: But imagine that for a second.
Speaker 1: The fuck anyway?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I couldn't be like, so you don't feel
Speaker 2: like you're angry.
Speaker 1: No, No, I am just I am fucking strict. I'm
Speaker 1: very stern. I don't play about me. So that's probably
Speaker 1: how it comes out to people, because you cannot play
Speaker 1: with me. That's all it is. I am not a
Speaker 1: fucking nice person. I am good. I go above and
Speaker 1: beyond for people, and I just be wanting that same
Speaker 1: thing in return. But realize in that, you know, everybody
Speaker 1: just isn't like that. It's okay, So but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: defend me every time.
Speaker 2: So a question overall? Do you think men are good?
Speaker 1: Overall?
Speaker 2: I think an audience to know, like where you're standing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a lot of men. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of men lack integrity, right, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of men they lie a lot. And it's not just me.
Speaker 1: I think most women feel the same way.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Men will not tell you the truth. They will put
Speaker 1: your life in their hands and make decisions for you,
Speaker 1: as opposed to telling you the truth and give you
Speaker 1: all the information. So you're making an informed decision about
Speaker 1: what you want for your life. So that's really all
Speaker 1: it is. A lot of most men lack integrity. Yes,
Speaker 1: I saw this post on Instagram recently, and this guy
Speaker 1: was like, if I tell you this, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: get the pussy. Like, if you tell you don't know
Speaker 1: that though you know what I'm saying. So they don't
Speaker 1: even want to run the risk of you not fucking
Speaker 1: with them. So from day one, they just met you.
Speaker 1: At one, they'll start with lies. That is somebody who
Speaker 1: lacks integrity. Yeah, you're just lying for no reason. I'm
Speaker 1: a stranger. Tell me the truth and let me decide
Speaker 1: whether or not I want to fuck with you or not.
Speaker 1: Tell me you married, Tell me you got a baby
Speaker 1: on the way, Tell me all you want is pussy,
Speaker 1: Tell me that.
Speaker 2: I might just want to fuck.
Speaker 1: I might not want nothing either.
Speaker 2: I don't think most men like integrity.
Speaker 1: When it comes to relationships with women.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that. I think most of the
Speaker 2: men we've dated, I think there are good men out there.
Speaker 2: I think they're just not available to us anymore. I
Speaker 2: think they're don't just say men we dated, Let's talk
Speaker 2: about our dads, Okay, I hate to generalize all men
Speaker 2: negative connotation and be like, oh, because I didn't, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I said most. I didn't say all. I did say most, though.
Speaker 2: Because I hate whomen do that to us and be like,
Speaker 2: most women are gold diggers? Are most women we should be?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not offended by that women should be gold diggers.
Speaker 1: It is our job to make sure we pick the
Speaker 1: best suitable mates to procreate with. Okay, and if we
Speaker 1: actually did that, a lot of niggas would die having
Speaker 1: never had sex, if we actually did the primal thing
Speaker 1: right and picked the best person to have to have
Speaker 1: a family with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree, But I think a gold digger
Speaker 2: is something different, you know. I don't think because that
Speaker 2: that that's not just about money. That's as about emotional intelligence, integrity,
Speaker 2: like spirituality and all those things in conface, A good
Speaker 2: mate is not just finances, whereas a gold digger is
Speaker 2: a woman who's looking for the man with the most money.
Speaker 2: You know. So, I, you know, I don't believe that
Speaker 2: to be true. Not all women are gold diggers. Now,
Speaker 2: do they want a man who can provide and be
Speaker 2: a good mate and a good father, Yes, Why wouldn't
Speaker 2: you want that? No, I don't want to know who
Speaker 2: wants somebody who they got to drag along like another child.
Speaker 2: Nobody wants that, So go digging different.
Speaker 1: I think everything is necessary. Right. Women who only date
Speaker 1: men for money, I'm pretty sure that at some point
Speaker 1: they were dating for love to right, and they realize
Speaker 1: that because men want to dig your pussy? Why you
Speaker 1: can't dig the gold? Okay, why can't I? But it's
Speaker 1: a man more than this pussy? Am I tripping?
Speaker 2: Y'all?
Speaker 1: Oh? You think they reduce us to cooking, cleaning and fucking?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? That is what we're like, Supposedly,
Speaker 1: that's all we're good for. I just told somebody last week, like,
Speaker 1: women have an innate thing about them that you can't
Speaker 1: even see or touch, but you only can feel. Right,
Speaker 1: and if you are not a man with purpose, right,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be you're looking you don't realize that this
Speaker 1: woman that you're taking care of, who have buried your children? Right,
Speaker 1: there's two different type of men in the world. It's
Speaker 1: either one who wants to take care of like a
Speaker 1: man who feeds his ego based on how many people
Speaker 1: he can take care of and then the other man
Speaker 1: is how many bitches he can fuck? All right, those
Speaker 1: are the two types of men that we're dealing with.
Speaker 1: I prefer, you know, men who like to take care
Speaker 1: of people who go above and beyond for.
Speaker 2: Their family out there, that are healed, healthy, looking for
Speaker 2: a partner to grow with, build generational wealth with, start
Speaker 2: a family with.
Speaker 1: They may feel just like us right now, and.
Speaker 2: It's not just based on fucking cooking and what else she.
Speaker 1: Said, and sucking dick and cleaning.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Yes, there are some men, right, but they may they
Speaker 1: may have given the best in themselves to the gold diggers,
Speaker 1: to whoever else. So it's gonna be hard for us
Speaker 1: to meet them, you know, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because they probably feeling like us. Shit, I do better
Speaker 1: by myself, right, I don't need a man. I don't
Speaker 1: need a woman for this.
Speaker 2: I don't need y'all.
Speaker 1: I don't need y'all. It's it's it's it's probably given
Speaker 1: that for those men, they probably in the house like me,
Speaker 1: in the house, trying trying to get their portfolios together, right,
Speaker 1: trying to diversify their portfolio, like really working on their lives.
Speaker 1: Because women come with the money first of all. So
Speaker 1: I would suggest all men just just focus on the
Speaker 1: money for real, just focus on getting the bag, so
Speaker 1: then you could get you can attract the partner you want.
Speaker 2: But it may be.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. They like the women who only because
Speaker 1: that you would. I think a lot of modern women
Speaker 1: because I have a different, different definition of modern women.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of modern women we take men's
Speaker 1: jobs away. The man's job is to provide. But when
Speaker 1: you acting like you the nigga with money, then you complain,
Speaker 1: you get somebody who's a taker. You end up with
Speaker 1: this nigga who needs your money, who needs your time,
Speaker 1: who needs your energy.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like the nigga wo't the money me either.
Speaker 2: I'm always the damsel.
Speaker 1: And see it's tough for me to be the damsel
Speaker 1: in distress, right because I won't act like the nigga
Speaker 1: with the money. But I probably have an ore about
Speaker 1: myself that I'm gonna be okay without you, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I don't.
Speaker 2: Really know, Like I make these niggas feel like I need.
Speaker 1: I need you, and that's how men have to feel
Speaker 1: like they Yeah, but then everybody gets burnt out right.
Speaker 1: So imagine a man who's been taking care of his
Speaker 1: family for fifteen years, and he's the prime decision maker, right,
Speaker 1: Your wife doesn't make any decisions. It's probably because you're
Speaker 1: a control free right. You pick this type of woman
Speaker 1: because you want to be in control of everybody in
Speaker 1: your household. So that's something that man has to work through.
Speaker 1: But you can't have resentment towards her for not using
Speaker 1: her brain much. That's the type of woman you want it,
Speaker 1: right you? And I think often somebody you got to
Speaker 1: take care of.
Speaker 2: These women, don't They do have brains, but you have,
Speaker 2: You have made it to a place where she hasn't
Speaker 2: had to use it, you know, so.
Speaker 1: Right, and then he go when he when he gets
Speaker 1: to a certain place, he might leave you. You ain't
Speaker 1: stacked none of his money.
Speaker 2: But let me tell you, let me let me recant that,
Speaker 2: because any woman who's in there raising your children has
Speaker 2: to use her brain a lot, a lot, So she
Speaker 2: may not be using it toward business and things like
Speaker 2: that and more money. Well, when it comes to raising
Speaker 2: these children, it is a job in itself. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: I feel like if you are that woman in that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like if you are a man with means,
Speaker 1: a man of integrity, you realize the that innate like
Speaker 1: the value that a woman actually brings, like Mama's come
Speaker 1: with a loaf of bread. You get the right woman,
Speaker 1: your whole life elevates. You get married, you have a
Speaker 1: fucking We can use Charlemagne as a private prime example.
Speaker 1: I met Jessica and Charlemagne at the same time. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm seventeen, however old they are, like Jessica's low bit
Speaker 1: older than me. Charlemagne is older both of us, but
Speaker 1: I'm at them at the same time when he was
Speaker 1: just working at radio station part time type shit. Right,
Speaker 1: it is her energy and you know people won't see
Speaker 1: that though. Right, It is her energy that got him
Speaker 1: to where he is, and he knows that as a man.
Speaker 1: And that's why Charlamagne always surround himself with women, because
Speaker 1: that's what some successful men do. It is just something like,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have to worry about the cockfights because
Speaker 1: kings are born, right, you can't really like you can
Speaker 1: beat apprenticeship underneath another king to get your king position, right,
Speaker 1: That's what a smart man would do. But a lot
Speaker 1: of these niggas want to be the fucking chief they won.
Speaker 1: They don't want to be the Indian. And that's what
Speaker 1: we're missing in our community. Men learning from actual other
Speaker 1: men so that they can then be in position. These
Speaker 1: niggas just want to take somebody else's position because they
Speaker 1: think they deserve it. Right, you don't know what this
Speaker 1: person had to go through to get there. You don't
Speaker 1: know who else made sacrifices for this person to get
Speaker 1: to where they're going. Also, so it is the energy
Speaker 1: of the woman that enables the man to do the things,
Speaker 1: to go out and get the bread, right to bring
Speaker 1: it back home. It's the energy of his family. No one,
Speaker 1: he has his purpose. I gotta take care of these people.
Speaker 1: This is my responsibility. They're gonna do it. But when
Speaker 1: they they were somebody to take care of them.
Speaker 2: The thing, that's what it says in the Bible. You
Speaker 2: know a woman would beat you as a man. I agree,
Speaker 2: these they don't.
Speaker 1: These men don't realize it though we're not this this
Speaker 1: life is based off of double occupancy. None of us
Speaker 1: should be trying to do it ourselves. Y'all should see
Speaker 1: that based on the fucking economy, no one person should
Speaker 1: be trying to afford their lives by theirselves. Like, yes,
Speaker 1: women have been forced to do that though now because
Speaker 1: it's easier than to be with the second person, having
Speaker 1: then struggle with them because oftentimes we're taking other people
Speaker 1: into consideration before we take ourselves.
Speaker 2: And then you know, you get dragged Big MoMA and
Speaker 2: then they didn't really have a lot of choice, you know,
Speaker 2: they had to be with someone because they couldn't afford
Speaker 2: to do it by themselves. It wasn't like the opportunities
Speaker 2: that we have now, because I don't you know, do
Speaker 2: we think that Big Mama would have wanted to stay
Speaker 2: with Granddaddy if she could could go out on her
Speaker 2: own and do it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. But I don't believe every Big Mama's story
Speaker 1: is the same because there were some real good men
Speaker 1: back then, right who didn't have multiple families.
Speaker 2: There's good men now. Yeah, I don't want to like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they definitely exist. I know some. I've ran
Speaker 1: into some, right, and then I just didn't like them
Speaker 1: and ended up somewhere I wasn't supposed to fucking be
Speaker 1: because it was funner over there. This nigga was strict
Speaker 1: over here, you know what I'm saying. So I definitely
Speaker 1: know good men exist. I'm not saying they don't exist.
Speaker 1: And I'm also not gonna say I've never dated a
Speaker 1: good man, because I have. I think if you are
Speaker 1: a woman who say all niggas ain't shit, chances are
Speaker 1: you ain't shit either, Right, That's not what I'm saying, okay,
Speaker 1: because I am shit. But I do believe again, a
Speaker 1: lot of men do lack integrity, right, even the good ones,
Speaker 1: even self proclaimgas I just.
Speaker 2: I agree, But I don't think it's just men. I
Speaker 2: think it's just people. You know, people lack integrity, People
Speaker 2: need therapy, people need to work on themselves.
Speaker 1: And who'll be working on themselves the most so we
Speaker 1: can put so we can show up as our higher
Speaker 1: selves to people.
Speaker 2: I think we do. I think women, you know, are
Speaker 2: definitely actively trying to be better versions of theirselves. But
Speaker 2: I feel like men are too, you know, we just
Speaker 2: may be doing it faster. I don't think. I mean
Speaker 2: it's some men that's just out here, ain't shit and
Speaker 2: don't care, you know, and they're just gonna die, ain't shit.
Speaker 2: But I think it's uh, you know, there's men out
Speaker 2: here who are not proud of their past and trying
Speaker 2: to be better versions of their self actively every day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, leave that, nigga. Let me tell y'all, men learn
Speaker 1: from hurt, Men learn from consequence consequences. Men learn from pain.
Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all what I fucking know, right, so he
Speaker 1: will remember the hurt.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Nobody likes to be left, especially a narc. Okay, you
Speaker 1: just call Ice cold a ass. They're going to be
Speaker 1: a good man to the next bitch, Savannah, Meg, it
Speaker 1: just wasn't supposed to be for you. And then you
Speaker 1: can get somebody else's a furbished nigga. Okay, and then
Speaker 1: while I you got a husband, it's got to be open.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: I would never be Melinda, and I won't say that.
Speaker 1: My last relationship, we were starting businesses and stuff like
Speaker 1: that together. I haven't gotten a return on any investment. Okay.
Speaker 1: The last conversation I had with this food we was
Speaker 1: arguing about the food truck. Shit, this last conversation, I
Speaker 1: didn't get my return on the investment. You got the
Speaker 1: food truck. I'm just saying, you can't have the name,
Speaker 1: you can't have the company, you can't have the trademark.
Speaker 1: I'll sell it to you. I'll license it to you.
Speaker 1: But do you think I'm not supposed to get anything?
Speaker 1: You came up, you wanted to do this thing right,
Speaker 1: and I made the initial investment, so I kicked it off.
Speaker 2: So do you think trust?
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I just want my fair share. I
Speaker 1: wish we could have been I wish we could have been,
Speaker 1: like still in a position where we could do business
Speaker 1: together and not be together. But he's not that type
Speaker 1: of person. I definitely wish we could have done that,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't have been able to be in a
Speaker 1: new relationship and having to deal with him on a
Speaker 1: daily basis now other way around. I don't care who
Speaker 1: you wit. Let's get this fucking money. I wish I
Speaker 1: had we could have done that, but no, and there's
Speaker 1: no resentment towards it. But you ain't about to play me.
Speaker 1: You're not about to play me. So, yeah, I need mine,
Speaker 1: I need my money, honey.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can give me my money back. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't even have to give me interest. You just
Speaker 1: give me back what I put in and I'll be
Speaker 1: okay with it. But no, you're not just about to
Speaker 1: get everything, and you're sending me foots and amniotic fluid
Speaker 1: pictures with fucking umbilical cords still attached.
Speaker 2: Hurtful. That was heurtful to send you, And I bet
Speaker 2: you in his mind he wasn't trying to be hurtful
Speaker 2: to you. I think he was trying to celebrate.
Speaker 1: Possibly possibly right, But I don't.
Speaker 2: Think people sometimes don't understand how even their joy can
Speaker 2: be hurtful to you, you know, especially if you had
Speaker 2: been in a relationship and knowing that motherhood was something
Speaker 2: that I wanted, you know, So I hate that. I
Speaker 2: don't like that. I don't like nothing about what happened
Speaker 2: uh with that relationship for you. And I do hope
Speaker 2: that the next relationship or the current is the one
Speaker 2: that gives you, not the next or the current gives
Speaker 2: you everything that you've always wanted.
Speaker 1: Your I'm always going to get what I want. I
Speaker 1: just have to. I think what women need to do,
Speaker 1: and this is not just for me. Right, we need
Speaker 1: to trust ourselves. Talked about the clitical thinking last week.
Speaker 1: We need to trust ourselves more, right, and stop and
Speaker 1: stop using because the men like to say they're more logical, Right,
Speaker 1: we need to try to be more logical and actually
Speaker 1: you got to do both right, so that innate thing
Speaker 1: and then do like a data assessment what is actually
Speaker 1: happening right right, and make your decisions based off of
Speaker 1: that and not just pure heart and emotion.
Speaker 2: Right, Because you look up and you Melinda.
Speaker 1: Exactly. You don't want to be Melinda. You don't want
Speaker 1: to be like crashing out like she did. I was
Speaker 1: thinking she survived. I don't know, she did get shot
Speaker 1: and went into the ocean.
Speaker 2: It's hard to survive that. But crazy people live a
Speaker 2: long time.
Speaker 1: Evil lives long.
Speaker 2: Crazy too crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So one of the things here that say was
Speaker 1: Robert a dream of manipulator. He was both Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: He's a thing.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 2: I wasn't mad at either character because I don't think
Speaker 2: he meant to be that, you know, a user. I
Speaker 2: don't think that was his intention. He was just focused
Speaker 2: on his own dream. I don't think. Uh, but Linda
Speaker 2: wanted She just wanted to love her husband down and
Speaker 2: wanted to be loved back, and she had mental health
Speaker 2: issues where she couldn't handle her anger. I don't think
Speaker 2: either one of them was like intentional villains.
Speaker 1: You know, he had no room for error though in
Speaker 1: that relationship. Aside from like, as long as she knew
Speaker 1: he was there working on that thing, that Nigga had
Speaker 1: no room for anything else, no errors, She probably would
Speaker 1: have killed him. She tried to kill him again, he
Speaker 1: probably would have killed him again. So yeah, story, I
Speaker 1: would love to see an acrimony too. What's your last?
Speaker 2: Last?
Speaker 1: For this? For the movie?
Speaker 2: No, just for the conversation itself, because this is more
Speaker 2: than the movie, right, I tell mine, why are you
Speaker 2: thinking of yours?
Speaker 1: I guess it would be yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I think it.
Speaker 2: Always circles back to keep your regrets to a minimum.
Speaker 2: Y'all your regrets to a minimum. Try to make the
Speaker 2: best choices for your life, and then consider others as
Speaker 2: you go. You know, you can't be too selfish. It's
Speaker 2: all about balance. Can't be too selfish, but you also
Speaker 2: need to be a bit selfish. It has to be
Speaker 2: like that middle ground or you could end up resentful
Speaker 2: and wasting your time and it just love yourself on
Speaker 2: purpose and others. So all I got.
Speaker 1: So I just feel like she gave him everything, her money,
Speaker 1: her time, her youth, all the things.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So, I think what women often are looking for is reciprocity,
Speaker 1: give and take and no relationship, maybe in a romantic
Speaker 1: relationship or even with your friends or family. There should
Speaker 1: not You should not always be somebody that someone calls
Speaker 1: to take from. Right, people should also be doing for you.
Speaker 1: And that's where you know you don't end up with
Speaker 1: resentment because I guess I want to pose a question
Speaker 1: to the listeners. If you invest in someone's potential and
Speaker 1: they finally win big, what do they owe you? What
Speaker 1: do you feel is just do? What do you feel like?
Speaker 1: How do you what do you feel about the check?
Speaker 1: Is it big enough?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What would you require to be okay? After you've given
Speaker 1: your entire life to somebody else? Because she gave her
Speaker 1: mental health, this is what she's never she would if
Speaker 1: she lived, she was never going to be able to
Speaker 1: go and be with somebody else. This had her fucked up?
Speaker 2: Why though, That's the thing because.
Speaker 1: That in her mind, that was her person, That is
Speaker 1: who I was supposed to spend the rest of my
Speaker 1: life with in her mind. But I guess it had
Speaker 1: conditions also, right.
Speaker 2: I don't think you should ever be that attached to
Speaker 2: anybody in this life.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I I purposely practice detachment.
Speaker 2: Just you know you got because you are going up
Speaker 2: out of here by yourself. I don't give a damn
Speaker 2: who you. You know, you got to leave here by yourself.
Speaker 2: So it's okay to love, but the greatest love is
Speaker 2: to love yourself, God itself, because you you can't take
Speaker 2: nobody with you. Nope, So I don't know. And if
Speaker 2: you are dad attached to someone, then you need to
Speaker 2: go to therapy and see how to untether in that way.
Speaker 2: That's not healthy, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, y'all, we gotta start making these. Maybe
Speaker 1: we'll start doing the movie episodes for like Patreon. We
Speaker 1: can't just keep doing movie reviews for episodes, y'all. I
Speaker 1: like it too, I mean because it opens up dialogue
Speaker 1: for other conversations, right, not just the movie, like how
Speaker 1: would you do it? Who's tripping? Anyway? So if y'all
Speaker 1: enjoyed this episode, y'all tune in every Thursday on The
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Speaker 1: a tam.
Speaker 2: Y'all, it's official, Tam bam. I love y'all own purpose.
Speaker 2: I want you to love your cell phone purpose and
Speaker 2: always channel the energy of Cardi b Casu, Doal, Taylor, Anderiod.
Speaker 1: Move on, yes, all right, remember it now and never
Speaker 1: hold them niggas. Girl it up out of asked net.
Speaker 1: Bye bye,