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Speaker 1: Second date updated.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but in the last year or

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Speaker 2: so on the show, it seems like people are trying

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Speaker 2: to hack the dating system more. Oh yeah, they're not

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Speaker 2: just trying to meet people and let things happen the

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Speaker 2: way that they happened.

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Speaker 1: They're they're actually strategizing beforehand.

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Speaker 3: Well because the other way wasn't working, Jeff, if you

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Speaker 3: realize that, well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm just surprised that the lengths people go

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Speaker 2: to they're setting up more unique dates. They're trying new

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Speaker 2: online techniques, even laying down first date traps to catch

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Speaker 2: the perfect person, traps like oh did I say this

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Speaker 2: was a modeling job interview?

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Speaker 3: Oops?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I meant first date st auto correct.

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Speaker 3: Drop I picture in the same thing. I was totally

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Speaker 3: going with one of those bear traps from the comics.

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Speaker 2: No Wrong Way to Find Your Soul mat And one

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Speaker 2: of our listeners emailed us saying she tested out a

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Speaker 2: new date theory that she found online called optimal stopping math,

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Speaker 2: which immediately sounds sexy. Oh yeah, stopping math.

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Speaker 1: What you down for a little OSM girl? I mean

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Speaker 1: that sounds way better. The variable angles of a n

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Speaker 1: Isauceles dry.

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Speaker 3: Can we get to her before you get too turned on.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to solve for why with me?

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Speaker 4: Bruther?

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Speaker 3: I don't, Okay, I don't. I'm not into Pictagorian's theorem

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Speaker 3: or whatever.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it's dirty talk over there. Let's hear how it

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Speaker 1: actually works, though, and talk to Tara. She's the one

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Speaker 1: who emailed Tara.

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Speaker 2: I know this is a dating segment, but I would

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Speaker 2: absolutely love to hear more about optimal math.

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Speaker 1: How does that work?

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Speaker 6: Okay? I know it sounds boring, but hear me out.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 6: This is for people who basically are tired of playing

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Speaker 6: games and like texting forever, okay, and it just basically

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Speaker 6: cuts right to finding the right per for you.

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Speaker 1: How okay?

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Speaker 3: Are you making your own algorithm right now?

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Speaker 4: I mean?

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Speaker 6: The theory is you go on twenty five first dates

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Speaker 6: as fast as you can.

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Speaker 3: Wow, it's a first first date. Yes, keep up, this

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Speaker 3: is exactly how Jose did in math. Yeah, the word problem.

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Speaker 3: I know, I'm already lost.

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Speaker 2: Okay, twenty five different first dates as quickly as you can.

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Speaker 3: That's hard.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. So you basically have twenty five candidates to choose between,

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Speaker 6: and you end up picking the one that's best for

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Speaker 3: One out of twenty five. Yeah, twenty five good to

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Speaker 3: start with?

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Speaker 5: Any dates?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a big wide neck.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's probably the point.

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Speaker 2: Like you date a bunch of people as quickly as

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Speaker 2: you can, and then you get a big selection to

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Speaker 3: Right, it sounds just like what the apps are already

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Speaker 3: doing to me.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like your college days, right, bro.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't looking for the ones, I was looking.

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Speaker 6: For the mini But it's it is different from the

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Speaker 6: apps though, because the thing is you need to meet

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Speaker 1: What whoa wow?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Well, how are you doing that? Or do you work?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? So I do work, but here's how I do

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Speaker 6: Purpose of meeting them all so quickly is that? Basically,

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Speaker 6: if you don't do that, then the one you like

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Speaker 6: these online dating situations, it's fast, it's quick. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 6: you can miss out on somebody. Great.

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Speaker 3: So how did you manage to go out with twenty

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Speaker 6: Okay? So this is what we did, me and my girlfriend.

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Speaker 6: We decided we're going to do this together. So we

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Speaker 2: How oh yeah, that sounds like you'd have to play

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Speaker 6: So what we did was we found a location that

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Speaker 6: so my girlfriend, she had my Tinder and she was

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Speaker 6: swiping for me. She knows my She was setting up

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Speaker 6: basically fifteen to twenty minute long coffee dates with these guys,

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Speaker 3: So you were just bouncing between cafes, and you did

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: Uh, that's better than sitting in one cafe and letting

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Speaker 3: Dude, did you get caught? I mean there's got to

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Speaker 6: No, it was it worked out great, Like I actually

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Speaker 1: Okay, who is that?

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Speaker 4: His name was loll loll lol, like a.

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Speaker 3: Lull in the conversation or LW e Ll Lowell. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, you got a host.

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Speaker 1: Instead of Lowell.

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Speaker 2: No, not under the age of seventy.

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Speaker 4: I knew old.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what made you what you drawn to him? Out

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Speaker 6: So basically what was sweet about him was he arrived

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Speaker 4: He had.

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Speaker 1: That's a good idea.

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Speaker 3: I must have been buzzing on so much caffeine. It

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Speaker 1: Y did you have to drink a latte every single time?

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Speaker 3: You can't go to a coffee shop not buying some baby?

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Speaker 6: I thought things other than the coffee, you know, I had,

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Speaker 2: Okay, limping across the streets.

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Speaker 3: By dat nineteen cutting you off, he shows up a

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Speaker 6: And I think going back, I think he was date

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Speaker 1: Oh wow.

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Speaker 6: I was really glad that I could honestly like still

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Speaker 2: I know, one date sounds exhausting to me, let alone

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Speaker 1: Back to back to back.

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Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, we had a really great, like fifteen minute hangout.

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Speaker 6: We've been texting afterwards, and I tried to set something

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Speaker 3: Wait, when we get him on the phone, you don't

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Speaker 3: want us to mention that he was the best of twenty,

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Speaker 3: do you, because I mean some guys, No, no, no, Honestly,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, guys are competitive. We want to know that we're

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Speaker 2: You there, you go, Yeah, yeah, tell me after I

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Speaker 3: I feel good knowing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I really just don't want him to know because I

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's way different.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, well we'll keep it a secret. Then

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Speaker 2: when we call loll for you and try and get

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Speaker 3: Right number, right, because you just don't mean what if

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Speaker 3: wrong name. That's what I would do.

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Speaker 6: But he's the only one I've been texting.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is really interesting, an optimal stopping math experiment.

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Speaker 2: Teara met twenty guys in one day, back to back

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Speaker 2: to back to back. We're gonna call the one that

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Speaker 2: she actually liked when we do your second date update right.

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Speaker 1: After this second date update.

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Speaker 2: Going on twenty dates with twenty dudes all in one day.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a big statement.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like a Kate Hudson movie, doesn't It.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like an episode of the Bachelorette.

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Speaker 2: But it's actually a dating theory called optimal stopping math,

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Speaker 2: and it's what one of our listeners, Tara set up

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Speaker 1: And who was that? It was a guy named low

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Speaker 2: Because I will have a whole fit about it, but

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Speaker 1: So Brooke is gonna steal this guy. If he doesn't

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Speaker 3: Date, He's actually gonna take his cookies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Robin, whatever.

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Speaker 3: There's the rest of them. I do not need another man, Jeffrey,

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Speaker 3: I just need more cookies your chocolate.

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Speaker 2: But we're trying to hook her up with Loll one

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Speaker 2: more time because they've been texting but hasn't been able

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Speaker 1: How do you feel him before we call him, Tara.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if this doesn't work out, are you going to

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Speaker 1: Second best option?

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Speaker 6: No, he's the only one I colicked with, honestly.

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Speaker 1: All or nothing.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 2: Good, Well, let's call this guy and we'll see if

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Speaker 1: Good luck to me. Here we go, get just to

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Speaker 1: say his name.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Hey, is this loll yeah speaking?

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Speaker 1: I did it?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you are loll And we are a radio show.

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Speaker 2: He eh, we're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I know you guys. What's up?

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Speaker 1: Oh you do?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well, welcome onto our show here. We're doing a second

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Speaker 1: date update today.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: You know that, because I mean, somebody is trying to

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I guess I'm just thinking about it all.

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Speaker 3: Right, this would be so crazy to get like you're

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Speaker 3: just trying to process everything that makes sense?

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Speaker 1: What we'd don't hurt yourself thinking, We'll just tell you

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Speaker 1: who it is. Her name is Tara?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You guys had Well that's okay.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the smile left his voice.

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Speaker 3: I mean you only had like a fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 4: Tara's friends told me?

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Speaker 4: Tara's friend was texting me in advance of us meeting

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Speaker 4: Well, because Tara's friend told me after the date.

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Speaker 3: You have to be two different phone numbers.

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Speaker 4: No, it was stranger than that. It was more like, hey,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, she told you the whole thing So

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Speaker 3: You like Tara's friend or you're freaked out about the

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Speaker 4: I mean the speed dating thing. Whatever. There's weirder things

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Speaker 2: In life, and you you were the best guy out

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Speaker 1: Lead with that, Do you have any No?

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Speaker 4: I mean sure, I get that, but I mean that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you wouldn't have showed up if she said, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to try to line up twenty five dates.

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Speaker 3: You want to be one to twenty five?

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Speaker 4: Probably not?

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Speaker 1: No, I got you there.

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, sure, I don't know anybody who would

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Speaker 1: Okay, good boy.

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Speaker 3: That's what dating is. I mean, sure she would have

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Speaker 4: Okay, no, no, no, that's not what I mean. It's

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Oh that's the real stuff right there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Tara was fine, Tara's a good person whatever, Like,

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Speaker 2: But you don't even know what well, you don't even

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Speaker 4: Like, right, I mean no, but I'd still take somebody

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Speaker 4: I haven't met in person who's at least submitting there they.

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Speaker 2: Are some type of guy that women for their personalities,

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Speaker 3: Very nice little But I don't think that Terr is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you listen, then you know that TERA's

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if she's going to be laughing though, Terry.

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Speaker 6: There, Yeah, I'm here, and I'm just so confused because

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Speaker 2: Yeah what about your your friend though, going behind your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what the heck?

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Speaker 6: That's messed up. I'm definitely going to talk to her

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Speaker 6: about that. But like, she's not interested in you like

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Speaker 4: It was for me, like you said, What did she

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Speaker 4: say then, just that she'd like to see me for real?

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Speaker 4: That's all.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is cutting Tara.

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Speaker 3: Out of it.

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Speaker 6: I just don't believe it.

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Speaker 6: I felt like we really connected. I'm just shocked.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're a very nice person, don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 4: It's just the heart once would have want something like that.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I guess, mumble, mumble.

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Speaker 3: Whatever, I gotta say anything, I'm going to paraphrase.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I guess it's just the highs and the

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Speaker 4: Like this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a point in your career.

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Speaker 4: That really was so now that we've reached it, I'm

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Speaker 2: That dating friend because we're supposed to offer to send

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can at least give Tara one more try.

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Speaker 3: You only had fifteen to twenty minutes with her. You

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Speaker 1: Goes out with them, that's going to make her friend

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Speaker 4: Look at the bottom line is, at the end of

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Speaker 3: I hope that's okay, Tara. I mean your girlfriend was

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Speaker 3: We're wing women in her like now it's like back

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Speaker 3: and forth, you know, you wing the wings wings. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's literally no one in the cockpit at this point.

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Speaker 2: So I guess we need to get an answer from

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Speaker 2: you lowel yes or no on dating Tara one more time,

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Speaker 2: and we would pay for it if you met up

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Speaker 4: I just feel like it would be disingenuous. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: Wow, but you'll see him at your apartment this weekend.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like, Tara, Oh god, no, you okay?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm okay. I'm just upset.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tara, we're sorry. I know you probably feel really

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Speaker 2: really bad about how this ended. But at least that

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Speaker 2: that'll keep you laughing for like a month. Wow, the

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Speaker 2: highs and the lolls of your life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't need to repeat it.

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Speaker 1: No, this is a lowe moment. Yeah, okay, we're ending.

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Speaker 6: I'm hanging up now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I would if Jeffrey brooking Jeffrey in the

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Speaker 3: morning man.

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Speaker 2: Tara was really put in a tough position there finding

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Speaker 3: Yeah, be awkward conversation because it sounds like the girls

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Speaker 3: live together too. Yeahmates, Yeah, I did too.

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Speaker 2: I believe that's called double jeopardy and it's worth twice

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Speaker 2: as many points.

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Speaker 3: Oh are we still going on the math nerdy angle

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Speaker 3: on all this?

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Speaker 1: I don't really know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I just know doubly awkward for that friend situation.

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Speaker 3: I know, but it's one of those things where it

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Speaker 3: sucks in the moment, but you know ten years down

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Speaker 3: the line when the roommate's married to Way. Yeah that's true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no pressure. Will you better marry her?

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Speaker 2: And if you ever want help with your dating life,

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Speaker 2: we can always try to do it email the show.

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Speaker 2: We'll call that person who's not calling you back and

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