WEBVTT - 2022 NFL Draft Preview - Tight Ends with Fran Duffy 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:05.360 To us fires touch style by waddle stuck into the 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.440 end zone of Miami Boy tight fro tight window. They 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:11.760 had to get that touchdown on that play. They get it. 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:19.959 What is up, Dolph Fans and welcome to the Drivetime Podcast, 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:24.040 part of the Miami Dolphins podcast network, covering your team, 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:28.320 your Miami Dolphins. How's it going? Everybody? I am your host, 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:33.000 Travis Wingfield, and on today's show, Draft Week continues on, 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:36.120 and so too does our draft preview series. I have 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.159 Fran Duffy here to help us preview the tight end 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:41.560 class and a whole lot more because this guy is 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:43.440 a bit of a draft guru. He works in the 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.880 Philadelphia Eagles podcast network, the Journey to the Draft podcast, 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.880 and the Eagle Eye in the Sky podcast. Fran Duffie 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.400 my guest today. We're gonna break down this tight end class, 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.040 but also revisit the last couple of draft class here 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.120 with the Miami Dolphins from someone who has evaluated those 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:01.640 classes as close as anybody else from somewhere in South Florida. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:09.000 This is the Drivetime Podcast. We have a lot to 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.200 get to today with Fran Duffy, and it will be 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.600 a very busy week here on the Drivetime Podcast. Yesterday 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:17.399 we heard our final of the scout sit downs with 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:21.800 Matt Winston. We also chatted with Ali Connolly of Gridiron 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:26.000 Football Overseas talking about the linebacker class. We're gonna continue 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:27.760 today with the tight ends and put a bow on 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:32.399 our positional draft preview series tomorrow night on the podcast. Tomorrow, 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.440 I should say, Kyle Crabs from Locked On Dolphins and 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.680 the Draft Network joins us to do a comprehensive draft preview. 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.480 Then Thursday we'll have a mail bag. The questions have 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:43.600 already been put out, are you guys asked those questions? 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.480 Will answer them on the podcast as well as Miami 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.440 Dolphins dot Com. But for today, let's put a bow 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.400 on the positional previews and get to my guest friend 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.520 Duffy and joining me now here on the Drivetime Podcast 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.360 is the host of the Eagle, Eye and the Sky 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.720 podcast and the Journey to the Draft podcast on the 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:05.200 Philadelphia Eagles podcast Network, Fran Duffy. Fran, appreciate your time today, man, 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.800 thanks a lot. I have us absolutely, Man. I appreciate 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:09.680 you're asking me and happy to join them. You know, 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.560 I always like to to not just study the game 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.799 of football. But study the folks that study the game 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.680 of football, and watching you at the Combine, Man, this 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.280 might be almost a little bit like a creepy to you. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.760 Instead it's not really, but just just watching the way 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.040 you went around to the podiums, the questions you had 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.840 for for the kids, and the stuff you extracted out 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.679 of those those questions. Man, I really enjoyed watching you 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.639 do your things. I was just kind of curious about 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.040 how you game plan for the weekend India. It's a 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.440 good question, um, you know for me, Like I've been 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.520 going to the Combine for like a decade now, and 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.880 at this point, like you gotta know the questions that 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:45.800 a lot of these guys are gonna be asked, and 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.320 a lot of them are questions that don't necessarily benefit me. Like, 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.480 I honestly don't care who these players are meeting with 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.120 the combined because I know, like, in some ways, shape 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.000 or form, these guys are meeting with every team. It's 0:02:58.040 --> 0:02:59.959 more news of a team doesn't meet with the player 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.760 throughout the free draft process and so uh, the the 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.760 constant badgering for these guys, Oh did you meet with 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.440 Team X? Oh? Like how did the meeting go? Like, yeah, 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.480 sometimes you get an anecdote out of there and I 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.120 get it, so that part of it's fine. But to me, 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.120 the big thing that I always and the other aspect 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.120 of it too, is during pre draft CREP, these guys 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.480 are coached up on all of these questions when it 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.560 has to do about themselves, and so I've learned over 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:28.680 the years you get these really kind of planned vanilla 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:30.400 answers from these guys. If you said, like, oh, like, 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.280 where do you think you need to improve? Or where 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.320 what's your biggest strength of your game? Who do you 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:38.320 model yourself after a lot of those boilerplate questions come 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.200 with boilerplate answers from the players, And so I have 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.280 found that a lot of my success has come from 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.440 asking players to talk about other players, whether that's in 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:51.120 this draft, their teammates, opponents, guys they've gone up against, 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:52.920 or guys that are coming down the road, and that 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:54.360 can help me get a little bit of a head 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:55.920 start on next year. Because we do the Journey of 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.600 the Draft podcast year round, and so we're always kind 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.080 of looking ahead. That's off, we'll start as soon as 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:02.880 the late part of the spring, early part of the 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.920 summer gets here, and so That's really what my goal 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.080 is going into Combine week is just try and get 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.640 players to talk about other players. And it is also 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.760 I think the players kind of appreciated as well, because 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.880 they spend all weeks talking about themselves. They love gasing 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:17.240 out their teammates. And that was the one that I 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:18.600 listed out to me was when you would ask him 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.040 about who's a guy that we should keep an eye 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:21.920 on next year? And I was thinking, look at Frank 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:26.080 getting ready for the class already here in February of two. 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:27.920 It's great. And you talk about being a ten year 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.200 vent at the Combine. I've been there twice, spent the 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.080 team for three years now, obviously no combined one, but 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.000 it took me two years to really kind of get 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:36.960 sick of that have you met with Team X questions? 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.400 So it doesn't take long to figure that one out. 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.920 But it's like I said, like it's the same thing 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:43.599 with the at the Senior Bowl. You know, you get 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.560 a lot of these websites and people and look, look, 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:48.720 everybody good create content. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.719 not content. Content is good for everybody. But to me, 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.599 like every team, it's it's you're on a fact finding mission. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.560 If you're an NFL scout, you're trying to talk with 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.760 as many players as possible. Ever, every team is trying 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:00.720 to talk with all the guys a senior ball, all 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:02.640 the guys in the shrine ball, at the nflp A game, 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.320 you go to the combine, whether it's formal informal, teams 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.400 are trying to talk with everybody, and so uh to 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.080 me that that's where that stuff kind of gets lost 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:10.800 in the wash. Yeah, you gotta get the knowledge in case, 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:12.480 you know, for agency comes around in four years and 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.200 you want to know about a player his entire career. 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.159 So I mean, it makes sense to to know the 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:17.839 entire league, right, And that's kind of where I wanted 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.440 to get you to weigh in here for this Dolphins 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.200 really this offseason, but a collection of the last few 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:25.880 draft classes because I want to get to the tight 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:27.520 end class here eventual. That's the reason we have you 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.719 on the podcast. But you know, I want to go 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.000 back to the real reason. I believe the Dolphins were 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.520 kind of afforded this opportunity to really use this year's 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.680 ammunition to go out and get a proven you know, 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.839 six for six six years, six Pro Bowl bids type 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.240 of talent and Tyreek Hill, and that was you know, 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:47.119 the success of the twenty one draft classes, and really 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.480 in earnest, it goes back to before that when you consider, 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.160 you know, Christian Wilkins Andrew Van Ginkle might get sick 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:55.080 of Jerome Baker back to Xaving Howard in twenty six 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.360 team and so Fran I've got someone on my podcast 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.279 here yourself that does this draft in depth every single year. 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:02.760 I have to imagine you track not just the Eagles, 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.240 but the entire national football they'd kind of only get 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.440 a gauge for your hits and misses, but just curiosity, right, 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.280 we all feel that way. So I wanted to keep 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.640 it in these last two draft classes and just ask 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.000 you as you go back over these Dolphins last two classes. 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.279 Eleven top one hundred picks, a bunch of guys that 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.320 have played a bunch of snaps and starts and production 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.800 all that fun stuff. What really stands out to you 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:25.000 about these last two Dolphins draft classes. Well, I think 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:26.680 the big thing you know, when you go back and 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.120 you look at the last two groups, obviously a lot 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.839 of high quality picks, right, I mean five first round picks, 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.599 uh four second round picks, and so a lot of 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.080 really talented players. And I think when you look at 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:40.360 the way that they operated last year, number one, you've 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.880 got a legitimate athleticism across the board, right and you 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.520 look at Jalen Waddle, Jalen Phillips, Javon Holland right off 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.440 the bat one to three, all three guys stand out 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.520 with their athleticism, not just what they did in the 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.200 NFL and year one, but also with what they put 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.640 on on the film in college. Mean, Jalen Waddle was 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.839 one of the most impressive game breakers in all of 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:02.279 college football for the last two seasons at Alabama. Jalen 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.840 Phillips was a monster his final season in Miami. And 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.359 then Javon Holland was a personal favorite of mine just 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.119 because of the athleticism and the versatility that he showed 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.360 at Oregon, and people kind of forgot about it because 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:16.160 he didn't play in that COVID season in but really 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:17.520 kind of came on and I know he had a 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:21.400 strong first year down there for Miamy. So I think, 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.000 to me, you look at that from that standpoint, and so, yeah, 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:25.880 they really kind of hit it out of the park 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.120 early on in that draft and then going back to 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:32.440 the year before in just so many picks and interesting 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.560 talent up and down the board, right, And I think 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.080 when you look at guys now that are entering their 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.320 third season, it's gonna be so pivotal for that class. 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.320 And obviously so much is gonna be talked about with 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:45.000 to a tongue of ioloa. But you talk about Austin 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.000 Jackson and Noah Bonogny and uh, you know Robert Hunt, 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.400 what he has done so far in his career. Rickkwon 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.160 Davis has been a pivotal, key cog upfront from everything 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.120 that I've been able to tell um, but it's been 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.960 It's a really interesting group of players, and obviously with 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.880 a new coaching staff, you know that it's gonna be 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:02.280 big for those guys to really kind of come in. 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:04.000 And some of those guys are gonna get an extra 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:05.440 shot maybe if they felt like they were in their 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:07.720 last leg with the previous coaching staff. Well, now you've 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.960 got some new life. Uh. And obviously it can work 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:12.520 the other way as well. So it's always important to 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.000 make that strong first impression, which I know a lot 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.000 of those players are doing right now. This week without 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.960 Gates kicking off in South Beach. Yeah, football back on 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:21.760 the football field. You can't beat that. That's for us. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:23.960 All all kind of leads back to the draft, free agency, 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:25.880 all that stuff to getting back on the football field. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.000 And you mentioned it there. You know that the efforts 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:29.800 to build around to a tongue of voloa. The the 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.080 Mike McDaniel and Chris Weer are both talking about their 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.440 admiration for the talent they got on the offensive line 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.200 with a Austin Jackson, with Robert Hunt, last year with 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.400 Liam Eikenberg and then going back to Solomon Kindley. Will 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:43.080 also include Brandon Jones in that list, And it's just 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.440 so many guys that continue for the defense obviously, but 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.480 so many guys that are have been the main cogs 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.000 in back to back winning seasons have come out of 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:53.880 those draft classes. You go into year three here, you 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:55.760 hope that's the year that they kind of take their 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.040 game to that next level and really get themselves into 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.880 the next portion of their career. So, you know, these 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:04.600 two drafts provided Miami again eleven top one hundred picks, 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.600 and the Dolphins got a lot of that based upon 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.680 one big draft day trade with LARRYE. Tons I'll go 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.560 into the Texans and getting that haul back. But the 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.000 Dolphins have also been in business in recent years with 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.400 the team that you cover in the Philadelphia Eagles and 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.680 two of the more i would say rich teams in 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.200 terms of their draft capital over the last you know, 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.600 half decade and projecting into the future here as well, 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.040 that we both have, you know, multiple first round picks 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.040 next you guys this year with two and then two 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.960 again next year. The Dolphins in three as well, and 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.440 you know, both these teams, it seems, have taken this 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.520 approach this year. And it sounds funny to say because 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.080 Philly still has the two first rounders, but to almost 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.600 like invest more capital into next year's draft class. I 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.880 was curious what you think about the benefit of that 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:45.920 mode of operation. What do you think is the the 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.840 idea behind kind of putting their draft capital from this 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:52.160 year into next season. Well, it just gives you flexibility 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.320 over multiple seasons. And so obviously having three first round picks. 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.000 You guys experienced that a couple of years ago. You 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.800 know how exciting that could be for a franchise to 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:03.720 how that amount of quality talent enter the building. But 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.360 to me, now being able to stretch out, say okay, 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.600 now we've got multiple first round picks over these couple 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.800 of years. You've got multiple second round picks over these 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.160 next couple of years. It just gives you flexibility, not 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.560 just in the draft, but if a blue chip talent 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.640 or whether on the veteran market becomes available, like saying, 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:20.679 you know a pro Bowl wide receiver like a Tyreek 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.079 Kill level talent. Well, now if it's three, you've got 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.200 that flexibility to be and say, okay, we can go 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.440 and make that move if we still want to write 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.800 and so to me, that's what that trade is about. You. 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.160 You didn't give up much in terms of capital this year. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.440 You still have multiple first round picks in the top 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.960 twenty of this draft, but you gain an extra one 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:39.800 next year, you gain an extra two a couple of 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.400 years from now. So just being able to collect that 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:45.640 those quality, high value picks to me over the course 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.120 of the next couple of years, that's important for this 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:51.120 franchise that is still very much trying to build towards 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:53.880 getting back to getting another Lombardi trophy. It's fascinating the 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:55.720 way you almost have like these you know, these certain 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:57.520 life cycles they talk about your you know, I don't 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.319 want to call it a Super Bowl window, but those 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.240 windows of time where you feel like you can achieve 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.600 certain things. And the Dolphins seem to have put themselves 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.120 in this position where their life cycle is not just 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.080 now but also for the future. And I kind of 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.480 see the same thing happened there in Philadelphia. So real 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.440 quick frame before our first break. I want to circle 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.400 back to the previous thing we talked about and this 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.600 new Dolphins coaching staff and kind of that you know, 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.600 clean slate. We've heard you know, Patrick Surtainant, Sam Madison 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:21.480 and damn it feels good to say those two names 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.840 again for the coaching staff. We've heard Mike McDaniel talk 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.160 about the entire coaching staff talk about a clean slate 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:27.960 for some of these guys like you mentioned. So I 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:29.840 was curious. You know, you do a lot of great 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:31.600 work on XS and O's friend, I can watch your 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.880 breakdowns for hours and hours on end. It's it's a 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.840 lot of fun, very educational. And you know this, this 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:40.240 new offensive staff, defensive system should stay largely intact. But 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.800 on the offense, new head coach, new OC, new quarterbacks, receivers, 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.480 O line tight end coach. How can this staff, the 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:51.280 way they're constructed help accelerate the trajectory of those young players. Well, 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:53.720 the big part is when you have the speed on 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.640 the field that the Dolphins are going to have as 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.640 long as everyone's healthy, when you have Jalen Waddle and 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.160 Tyreek Kill, that speed a lot with the creativity that 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.640 that coaching staff is likely to bring. Uh, that really 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.080 kind of opens things up. And I think that when 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.920 you look at a staff and they do things a 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:10.920 little bit differently. But when you look here in Philadelphia, 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.880 Nick Sirianni, Shane Stikeen, Brian Johnson, the quarterback coaches across 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.040 the board, they all want to talk about finding ways 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:18.719 to get their playmakers the ball. They were one of 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.800 the best in the league this past year in terms 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.080 of yards after catch per reception, and that's about just 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.320 trying to find ways to get the playmakers the ball 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.160 in space. One of the other teams that was really 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:31.160 good in that department the Miami Dolphins and Mike McDaniel Right, 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:32.640 So I think when you're the San Francisco for the 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.440 Niners rather and Mike McDaniels, so that's where you're hoping 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.720 carries over to the Miami Dolphins here this fall is 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:42.240 that ability to find ways to get kill and waddle 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.480 the ball in space and everybody else as well. And 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.439 I think when you have that amount of speed, well, 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.600 now you've got that ability to stretch things out. Because 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:51.959 that's the thing when people talk about the San Francisco 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.600 for the Niners and their offense and Deebo, Samuel and 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.760 Brandon you can obviously George Kittle, that's not it's not 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.480 a big play offense from a vertical stand point, is 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.280 a big play offense from a chunk standpoint. So you're 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.360 trying to create explosive plays that are in that eighteen 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.559 to twenty five yard window and some of those are 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.560 balls that are thrown at seven yards with space where 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.679 receivers on the run. And that's something that to a 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:15.400 tongue of Bolo woul due to high level during his 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.320 time at Alabama, and now you're trying to create some 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.240 of that same magic schematically here in Miami. Yeah, most 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:21.960 of the games played in that ten yard bucks, right, 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.520 That's that's the part of the game that it seems 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.520 to you really have to harp on that to get 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.439 it across, it seems sometimes and you know it's It's 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.600 interesting you talk about the vertical stretch of the offense, 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.080 because a lot of these offenses that are built similarly, 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.200 they start off condensed, right, They're always in nasty splits, 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:36.520 in these tight splits, and then it gets to the 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.280 horizontal stretch as well, and how you create the spacing 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.200 and all that fun stuff. Let's take our first break 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:42.720 here and come back on the other side with Fran 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.120 Duffy of the Journey to the Draft podcast on the 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.360 Philadelphia Eagles podcast Network here on the Drivetime Podcast with 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.240 your host Travis Wingfield. That's me, brought to you by 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:56.200 Auto Nation. Al Right back here on this edition of 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.920 the Drivetime Podcast brought to you by Auto Nation, Fran 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.840 Duffy is my guest, and Fran, I've asked this question 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.240 to all my Draft preview guests here and I'm dying 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.520 to get your answer because you obviously watch a ton 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.160 of tape. I want to know about your idio secrecies. 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.040 I've had a lot of good answers on this. It's 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.000 there like a go to snack or a drink that 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:14.839 you have to have. For me, it's coffee. You watch 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.080 me drinking this coffee during this podcast and then once 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.400 you're locked in, I'm curious to hear your approach to 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.760 the tape itself. I want to hear your entire film 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:25.040 watching session. What does that look like for you? Um so, 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.680 I would say by my snacks are on a general rotation, 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.120 uh there, there's a lot of different things I like 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.400 to rotate in there. I certainly like to have a 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.360 drink at my side. I'm not a big coffee drinker. 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.920 I've tried multiple times over the course of my uh 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:40.760 teenage and adult life to get into coffee, and I 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.080 just can't find the taste. I love the smell, but 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.760 just not I have not become a coffee drinker. Um 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.640 that said, I think when you for me getting into 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.080 the film, it's really a bit. It's a it's a 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.920 long process, especially when it comes to the draft, because 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.200 I usually try and get through a couple of different 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.680 touch points with all of these players. Obviously being able 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.440 to see them live, whether it's at a game or 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.200 at an All star setting, certainly at the combine, those 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.280 are all helpful. But I try and at least have 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.880 two or three different instances where I watch a player, 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.000 because I can't tell you how often it happens. Travis 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.880 where I'll watch a guy in August or a guy 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.720 in October, and then it's January. I'm like, man, I'm 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:17.800 I'm really high on this guy, and not everybody else 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:19.640 is high on this guy. Should did I just have 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.480 like a good day that morning, like there was no 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.200 traffic going into the office. I woke up on the 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:24.840 right side of the bed. I'll go back and watch 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.080 again and say no, like I really do like this guy, 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.240 like oh okay, Like it just kind of reaffirming that. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.200 It just it makes me feel good to say, like, Okay, 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.720 everything I saw back in the summer, everything I saw 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.000 early in the fall, that still carries over and I'm 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.120 still watching. You know, it will be this it's this week. Um. 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.640 You know, we're getting ready to do the defensive line 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.600 preview next week on the Journey the Draft podcast, and 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.120 so this week I'm just kind of going back through 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.880 defensive linemen, some of whom I have not watched for months, 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:48.040 and some of these are that are some of the 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.200 best best players in the class. And you're gonna see 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.680 some changes, You're gonna see some things that are about 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.240 the same. I'm a big believer and just trying to 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.240 make sure, you trust your eyes more than your ears. Uh, 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.000 and so just kind of lean into what I see 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:01.480 and and that's I just have to be true to 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.920 myself from that standpoint. And so typically from most players, 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.480 I try and watch anywhere from like three to five 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.400 games full games, depending on the position. Uh, and then 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.760 some specialty tapes off of that. So uh, you know, 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.240 if it's a corner, I like watching all of the 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.800 plays where he impacts the football, but then also some 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.240 of the explosive plays that the defense gave up to 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.160 get a sense of how often he was involved. Their 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.360 wide receivers, I want to watch every single target running backs. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.960 I want to see as many pass protection stamps as possible, 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:31.480 as well as all their touches against Power five competition. Right. So, 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.040 just depending on the on the position, those kind of 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.920 specialty tapes will change. Um, but I think ultimately it 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.160 just comes down to just watching as much as possible 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.480 and just trying to get as many exposures as possible. 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.360 No surprise at all here that you gave me a 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.200 new answer that I haven't heard yet. So great stuff. 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.120 They're frying to appreciate that, And then you got me 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.360 thinking they're talking about watching these guys in the fall 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.240 and then you kind of come back and then they 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.480 stir open mobile and they dominate. You're like, yep, that's 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.080 the guy I saw, and everyone else kind of catches 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.760 up to it. That's the best feeling in the draft process, 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.480 if you ask me, so you know we can. We 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.520 talked about the Dolphins and Eagles both putting capital into 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.520