1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to check us out live every weekday from 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: four to seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: us every day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Nico Harrison, who's running the basketball operations over there, had 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: this to say about Cooper Flag. 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 3: I think it's two things. I think it's win now. 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 3: It's also win in the future. And we don't know 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: when eventually it's going to be Cooper's team. We don't 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 3: know when that when that transition will happen. So I 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: think it's win now and then set yourself up to 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: win in the future as well. 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 4: Well you mister fan of the MAVs mass fan. 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: He's talking about, you can win now, win in the future, 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: win tomorrow, win ten, Just a lot of winning in the. 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 4: Future coming, is what I have to say to all 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: of that. Oh, here we go now. 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: On paper, Yes, I likes what I see. Okay, you 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: talked about it. Kyrie Irvans still playing at a high level, 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis playing at a really high level as well. 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: You got Lively, you got Gaffert, you got you got 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: other Clay, you gotta piece of PJ. Washington. By the way, 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: I just PJ Washington. I mentioned it the other day. 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: Every four years we get a guy whoever becomes man, 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: if we could just get a it was Rudy Gay 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: for years. Man, we were Rudy Gay away. It was 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: Tobias Harris to me, PJ. Washington has become that new guy. 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: You're like, Man, if we could just get like a 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: like a PJ. Washington for those teams that are right there, 33 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: you know, just we need another guy who gets that, 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: like the Knicks forensic for instance. Ye. 35 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: Man, if we just had like a PJ. Washington, he's 36 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: gonna be that new thing, you guy me. 37 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: But with that being said, man, Carrie listen, I liked 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: what I see on paper. But this was my issue 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: with the initial trade of Luca. It wasn't just that 40 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: you ready luc it, although that was hard to get past, man, 41 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: that's crazy. It was that you traded him and your 42 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: whole point was, I don't know, it could be a 43 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: catastrophic injury coming. He didn't take care of his body. 44 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: But so you got a guy who's six years older 45 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: in AD, who is proving to be injured a lot 46 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: in his career, and then you paired him with and 47 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: off injured Kyrie. So that was what you didn't pair 48 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: him with Michael Bridges, iron man who hasn't missed a 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: game in his NBA career. 50 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: You paired him with injured Kyrie. 51 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: And then what happened Game one with Ad and it 52 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: was so exciting too, but he was injured. 53 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 4: But he gets injured. 54 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: So this is where I'm apprehensive, is that you gotta 55 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: wait all the way to what you can say optimistically 56 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: March with Kyrie coming back April. I think could be 57 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: back before that. But okay, but let's say February. I'll 58 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: even grant you that. February he goes to a voodoo doctor. 59 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: They put something on his knee. He's back February, but 60 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: he gotta he has to work back in the shape. Okay, 61 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: roll all that time, you're banking on Anthony Davis not 62 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: being injured so that your team is in a good position, 63 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, and it's the standings, yep, I don't know 64 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: if that's gonna be the case. So Now I got 65 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: an old Klay Thompson who's off injured. Now Kyrie a 66 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: d with a rookie, and I'm like, on paper, I 67 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: get it, but that's asking for a lot for all 68 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: those guys to hold up and hold up at the 69 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: same time. 70 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 4: Okay, he's back. Wait, hold on, now you get back. 71 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: All right, now, we got to be best already to 72 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: roll come April and May. I just don't know if 73 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna be built for that. I like it on paper, 74 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: but I'm skeptical of the injury report. Yeah, come the 75 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: late spring. Yeah, but that's every team. No, No, listen. 76 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 5: What you're saying, though, is if something happens, and yes, 77 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 5: we've seen it happen, so it's not like it can't happen. 78 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: But that's every team. 79 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 5: You have to have luck, you have to have health 80 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 5: throughout the season, and so if you don't have those things, 81 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 5: nobody's a contender. 82 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: Right. 83 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 5: So all we have right now is that hypothetical of 84 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 5: what we see on paper, right like man, man, man, 85 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 5: All these things add up in a stack up right. 86 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 5: Boston coming into this year, we thought they were prohibited 87 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 5: favorite right like they are. They were injuries derailed them. 88 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 5: It wasn't a team that beat them. It was injuries, right. 89 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 5: So that's always the case when you look at the 90 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 5: same and you talk about Nico saying this is a 91 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 5: win now, this is a win in the future as well. 92 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 5: This window with this group is going to be short. 93 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 5: So Cooper, if he gets all that he needs to 94 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 5: get done in these couple of these first to two, 95 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 5: I would say two years with this unit that they 96 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 5: have and it doesn't work out the way hypothetic hypothetically 97 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 5: it could or couldn't. They still have a core with Cooper, Flag, 98 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 5: d Live Gafford, PJ. Washington or will attract other people. 99 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 5: And don't forget they're also right now going after another 100 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 5: point guard that can be a stop gap until Kyrie 101 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 5: gets back. That's a starter, that should be a start 102 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 5: in his lead, that type of that type of person. 103 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 5: So the same is still good. Now I win a championship, 104 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 5: that's just that's far. We don't know what that looks 105 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 5: like until we see all of them together. But right 106 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 5: now I'm loving it. Man, I'm not mad at it. 107 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 5: I like it on paper. It's again hypothetical. We'll have 108 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 5: to wait and see. Uh, But I don't know about 109 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 5: the win. Now, I'm not as high on the win. Now, 110 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 5: there's some other teams that I can feel like I've 111 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 5: have like how many. 112 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: By the way, Rob g was that Eddie House who 113 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: had the Mavericks going to the Western Conference final yesterday? 114 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 4: Yes, there you go, I said, excuse me, Eddie. Yeah. 115 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: And Rashad Phillis, by the way, or both of them 116 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: both both did Dan I don't know Eddie. 117 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 6: Eddie fools stories that he think they can make a run. 118 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: Rashad said, because I said Houston, and he about laughed 119 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: me off. 120 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 4: No, no, Houston can make him wund He laughed. 121 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: Because he said, you don't think Kevin Durant is the piece, 122 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, it's not that he is not. 123 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 4: He has to be their savior. Dude. 124 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: They got im and Thompson gonna be leaps and bounds better. 125 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: Sengoon down low, Fred Van VLEs, if you missed this guy, 126 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna have a problem. Keep going. Yeah, 127 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: Jabari Smith Jacks is my guy. 128 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I him paired with Kevin Durant and learning the 129 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 5: tricks of the trade. 130 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm excited to see him. 131 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I was too too. Yoda Lashan Phillis was 132 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: laughing it off. I'm like, I thought Kevin Durant fit 133 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: perfectly over there in Houston. 134 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 135 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: So, but again, Cooper Flagg there now is in a 136 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: row pick. And also I like to that he doesn't. 137 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: He's not just a man. All I can do is 138 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: shoot because he can fit right in and they can say, 139 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: all right, Ad is going to be down low, He's 140 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: going to do his thing, and that actually is kind 141 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: of scary. If Anthony Davis is engaged, healthy and active defensively, 142 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: which he usually is, yes, and then you pair him 143 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: with Cooper who gets to roam and kind of roll 144 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: and be a secondary defender. Guy gets by somebody, he's 145 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: coming for the block, passing lanes with that athleticism speak man. 146 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 4: I like that, Will. I will admit that is kind 147 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 4: of scary. 148 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: You mentioned with Lively, and that's don't go down there 149 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: trying to score. 150 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 4: I'm telling you that front line. I'll give you. 151 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: That frontline defensively is kind of scary. But I like 152 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: that he night in, night out, and you know what 153 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: reminded me of and the only reason I didn't bring 154 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: him up because he wasn't a number one pick. 155 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 4: When you brought Tim Duncan. It reminds me of Kawhi. 156 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: I think they got him at eleven give take ye ye, 157 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: and he gets to just come in, be under Tony Parker, 158 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: Ginobili dunking all these guys, be one of the guys. 159 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: And then you like, oh, this guy's really really good 160 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: defensively Okay, he's athletic getting out on the break okay. 161 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: Oh mid range kind of coming around a little bit. Yeah, 162 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: And you look up and you're like, man, he's a 163 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: finals MVP of that twenty fourteen team. Shout out to that, 164 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: Shout out to Steve Balmer. I don't know he did that. 165 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: Steve Mamer did that. So I like that he can 166 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: just kind of fit in and float. What do you 167 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 1: need from tonight? Oh you just need eight points, twelve rebounds, 168 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: three blocks, got you okay, So now you needed me 169 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: to go and a lot of points in fast break. 170 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 4: You know who? 171 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: Also liking it to offensively speaking Pascal Siakama that you 172 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: don't have to say call plays just I can get 173 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: it in transition. 174 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 4: I can get it just you know, put some putbacks. 175 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: I can get it in a little mid range here 176 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: there on Pascal, where we can make saying I don't know, 177 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: he's kind of good. I don't know what he does great, 178 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: but he's just good. And I see that I'm where 179 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: you at on and what he can actually bring immediately. 180 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 5: And I was gonna I was gonna ask you that too, 181 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 5: But for me, it's he's gonna score fourteen just off effort. 182 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 5: So I would see him early on. I mean this 183 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 5: year probably in that sixteen to eighteen range, and I 184 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 5: don't I might even go lower to your thirteen four. 185 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 5: But because I don't need like I might necessarily need it. Yeah, 186 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 5: I just say that because he's gonna play hard right. 187 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 5: Like again, I don't think they will run a lot 188 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 5: of plays. But the thing I do see with them, 189 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 5: I know they want to push the pace a little 190 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 5: bit more than they have in the past. Obviously with 191 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 5: Luca gone, they want to push it. I can see 192 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 5: him playing that point forward position right, and the ball 193 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 5: can be in his hands a lot more and he 194 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 5: can make a lot of plays too. And with that, 195 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 5: with all the lob threats that he has in Dallas, 196 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 5: now you're gonna have to make decisions. And he's a 197 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 5: really good lob throws because we saw that with the 198 00:08:55,559 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 5: half team up to everybody, right, Lamala watching those guys. 199 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 5: But man, listen, I think he's going to average around 200 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 5: like in that sixteen eighteen range, and I think he's 201 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 5: going to be obviously Rookie of the Year. 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He's still moving in the NFL. 217 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: There's some news that came out about Justin Tucker kind 218 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: of a conversation Rob and I had a few times 219 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: during the process what we thought would happened, what we 220 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: thought of, just how it was handled, maybe the lack 221 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: of conversation, how it kind of slid under the radar 222 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: because it rolled perfect timing into the playoffs where our 223 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: attention was there. Now it is out. He is gonna 224 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: have be ten weeks, So he's suspended for ten weeks. 225 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: It starts August twenty six rod g. 226 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 6: Got his correct if for anybody who doesn't know the background, 227 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 6: justin Tucker was accused of sexual misconduct by sixteen different 228 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 6: massage therapists from eight different spas in the Baltimore area 229 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 6: from twenty twelve to twenty sixteen. All right, now, since then, 230 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 6: Tucker has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, and that did not 231 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 6: seem to matter to the NFL, because, as you mentioned, 232 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 6: they announced today that he has been suspended for the 233 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 6: first ten weeks of the upcoming NFL regular season. He 234 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 6: is eligible for reinstatements starting November eleventh. Key thing, though, 235 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 6: is he is currently a free agent, not in anybody's roster, 236 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 6: so this suspension really has much ado about nothing because 237 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 6: he's not under team anyways. 238 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 4: Harry, I know you want to cook on this one. Ye, 239 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 4: get your Bobby flayir. 240 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 5: No, the whole thing with this whole Justin Tucker thing 241 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 5: was for me, the coverage, the conversation, we didn't have that. 242 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 5: It kind of came out and people were like, oh, 243 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 5: like kind of taking a back, but nobody really said 244 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 5: anything about it. And we had a situation very similar 245 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 5: that happened to a quarterback right that that was in 246 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 5: Houston ended up in Cleveland. And people won't let that 247 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 5: go at all. I mean, they're still talking about that 248 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 5: and they're you know, obviously very strongly opinionated about it. 249 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 5: But when it comes to Justin Tucker in this situation, 250 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 5: ah right, he said he hasn't done anything yet. So 251 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 5: we're gonna we're gonna be patient and we're gonna wait 252 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 5: till all the facts come out. That just rubbed me 253 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 5: the wrong way. Like, if you're gonna be consistent, be 254 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 5: consistent when you cover something, when you cover somebody, doesn't 255 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 5: matter who they are, doesn't matter that the quarterback, the kicker, 256 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 5: doesn't matter if you're African American, doesn't matter if you're white, Like, 257 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 5: keep the conversation the same. And so the fact that 258 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 5: none of this was really happening in this situation. Even 259 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 5: now with the suspension, you go on Twitter, that's not trending. 260 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 5: When Deshaun Watson went through that process, I mean, it 261 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 5: was the topic of everybody. 262 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: It was just a topic of everybody's discussions. 263 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 5: And so the fact that this isn't that And I 264 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 5: like Justin I like Justin Tucker for as the player 265 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 5: that he is. I don't know him personally, but you 266 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 5: can tell, like some of the stuff that he was doing, 267 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 5: you could tell he was he had a little more 268 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 5: about him as a kicker. We don't usually see that often, 269 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 5: the personality of it. And you know him wearing the 270 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 5: gold chains and the way he talks, and people don't 271 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 5: talk about that. But I mean, this is a real 272 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 5: conversation if you're out there doing this stuff and you're 273 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 5: not owning up to it, and you're putting people in compromising, 274 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 5: compromising positions like we need to we need answers. And 275 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 5: the fact that he's not even anybody, he hasn't even 276 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 5: said anything really to the public wardy. I mean, he's 277 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 5: issued a statement kind of disappear and now he's off 278 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 5: the team, Like I want to know more. I need 279 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 5: the conversation to be a little bit more enriched. For me, 280 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 5: that was adorable. 281 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why that was adorable because you 282 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: sound like what oftentimes we wanted to be. I know 283 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: you not all that well, but I know you enough. 284 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: We always talk about you, me on the mic and 285 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: off the mic. Authenticity being who you are. You know 286 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: Spectrum News one where I'm the morning anchor. 287 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: There. 288 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: You've done in La Stories with Jaselle Fernandez, so that's 289 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: where I really got your full story. She dived deep 290 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: into your life and everything. I say that to say 291 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: for a real reason. One of the things that has 292 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: been a challenge for me for years is nuance, very nuanced. 293 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm very understanding. I can contextualize, I can understand, like, 294 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: oh well, I see how what should be and what 295 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: I realized. 296 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 4: Brother Deshaun Watson, first and foremost is a quarterback. 297 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: That's the big position in the NFL, right, and we're 298 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: going to talk about that to nauseum. 299 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 4: He's the star. We're gonna talk about it especial because 300 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 4: he's a star. 301 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: He was balling when that's came out with the Shaun Watson, Yeah, 302 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: MVP candidate just about to go free agency, get a bag, 303 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: the whole nine. Also, I do believe we live in 304 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: is it in the rock? Go full Rob Parker? Is 305 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: this thing on race matters in America? And when you 306 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: have a star black filling the blank politician, entertainer, athlete, 307 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: I believe that makes things even more hot button topic, 308 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: like everybody wants to talk about that's just me. You 309 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: can say I'm wrong, but I don't. 310 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 4: I don't. I strongly believe that. Yeah. 311 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: So now you have a young black, great quarterback, hot 312 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: playing very well, MVP, making Superman plays, all of that 313 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: makes his news for fodder. And they kept rolling out right, 314 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: it was like one, two, okay, sin him, Okay, it's fifteen. 315 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: And it kind of got Bill Cosby like where the 316 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: numbers just got great? Okay, this is is almost comical, 317 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: not even it's not a funny matter, but just the 318 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: numbers got so high. So I think that played a role. Also, 319 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: Justin Tucker's a kicker. Justin Tucker's old. And as far 320 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: as sports, you know, it was he thirty five in sports. 321 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: That's old and pardon my French, he sucked last year. 322 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: Now chicken her egg theory, did he suck? Because all 323 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: this was in the back of his head, and he 324 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: knew it was coming. He knew it was out there, 325 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: and he getting a little nervous. He's, oh, shoot, in 326 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: any minute, I know the story's gonna break because of anything. 327 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: You know anything about journalism. 328 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: They've called him, They've called his agent, they've called his family, 329 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: they've called this They checked in with the team. Hey, Ravens, 330 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: do you have anything, He said, We're gonna put the 331 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: story out here. 332 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: Anything. 333 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Journalism, especially real journalists, they go through the proper channels, 334 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: they go through lawyers. They Hey, everything kosher, We're gonna 335 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: put this story out. 336 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 4: Is this legal? Can we do this? 337 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: Point being he knew this was coming, Yeah, and when 338 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: you got something weighing on you that heavy, that can 339 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: affect your play, your work, anybody, all of us. Right, 340 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: So I wonder if he would have been as bad 341 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: if this was not there. 342 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 5: No. 343 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: But what makes this also the timing perfect is we've 344 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: seen enough of his career that if a kicker is 345 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: to go on the Hall of Fame, he's has the 346 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: credentials to get in the Hall of Fame. Right point is, 347 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: he's already done most of his career. He's already been 348 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: a prolific kicker. So he has the good fortune where 349 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: he can just fade away, now, Carrie, you know what 350 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean, and just kind of just can just go away. 351 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: We're talking about the NBA Draft, we just talked about 352 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: the finals, we're getting ready to talk about show Hayes 353 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: pitching all this stuff. 354 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 4: Well he kind of just fade. 355 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: It worked out perfectly for him because if he were 356 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: twenty eight kicking sixty six yard or sixty eight yards 357 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: winning games and this would be hot fodder. We'd be 358 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: talking about it more. But my last point here, Carrie, 359 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: is one thing I know about the NFL. As long 360 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: as you aren't kneeling for the issues of Black America, 361 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: anything else can get you back in the league. 362 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 363 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is come make late 364 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: November and a team is sitting there ten and four, 365 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, or you know, eight and three, something like that, 366 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: and they're like, man, our kicker just went down and 367 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: we got a chance to really make a deep playoff 368 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: run the Bills, the Lions, something like that. Please believe 369 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: all will be forgiven, forgotten and justin Tucker's phone will ring, 370 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because you can domestic violence, sale drugs do drugs, 371 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: say the N word, Riley Cooper, kill somebody, and I 372 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: mean that respectively. Dante Stalworth, I'm not don't even need 373 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: trying to be funny, Dante Stalwarth you know drunk driving? 374 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: Oh that part, yeah, yep. Yeah. My point is anything 375 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 4: can get you back in the league. 376 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're still good or we need you, 377 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: except for kneeling for the rights of Black Americans. 378 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 4: That's a whole nother thing. Colin Kaepernick. 379 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: So my point is as much as I'm like, oh 380 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: he's out, he wasn't played, he wasn't good last year. 381 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: His agent's phone might ring come late November because somebody 382 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: needs him. The ten weeks have gone by, and I'm like, 383 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: you know what, people ain't thinking about that. No more 384 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: call him. We need to kick him for this playoff push. 385 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: Oh am I wrong? No, no, no, no, that's that's 386 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: a that's a given. 387 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 388 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 5: I mean if a team needs, if a teams need 389 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 5: is extreme, they go extreme measures. He's a Hall of 390 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 5: Fame kicker. There's nothing about his talent, nothing about any 391 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 5: of that at all. Like that's part of the NFL. Yes, 392 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 5: they will hire you if they need you. I'm just 393 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 5: The thing that baffles me about this is just the 394 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 5: complexity to both of these stories. They're both complex, they're 395 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 5: both rumors, but one just we we covered it at nauseum, 396 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 5: right yep, this one was not that. And just because 397 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 5: he's a kicker, and just because he's on his way 398 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 5: out the league or possibly out the league, that's not 399 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 5: the point. 400 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 4: The point is cover it the same. 401 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 5: And that's the part that it just I don't like 402 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 5: saying your t shirt keeps, it turns into a soup 403 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 5: and your voice starting to sound. 404 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: More of a dream than One day you do something 405 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: wrong and everybody's gonna talk about the wrong is wrong, 406 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: and I hear you and I'm with you. 407 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 4: But unfortunately, man, it doesn't work that way. 408 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: Somebody else can do something and somebody, you know, whatever 409 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: the thing is, whether because they're more famous, or they're 410 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: in a bigger team, or it's a race thing, whatever, 411 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: we just America will pick and choose who they choose 412 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: to make, you know, an example of, or be the 413 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: hot topic, or it just happens that way. Because if 414 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: you're justin Tucker, to you, he they ain't talking about 415 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: me too too much? Right, It's crazy, but. 416 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 5: Think about it, right now in the world that we 417 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 5: live in, where it is hot topics, it is whatever's 418 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 5: trending is the thing. 419 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 4: Right. 420 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 5: Let me have all these entertainment people getting you know, 421 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 5: getting called out every other week and it's hot for 422 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 5: that moment, and you get it. I think that's the 423 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 5: other part of it. 424 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 4: Though. 425 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 5: We live in the world right now where everything is 426 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 5: such a hot topic and everything is so quick, and 427 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 5: the news feed turns over so quick. I think that 428 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 5: may be Oh no, no, no, let me tell you something. 429 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 5: So there's a there's a whole La City council craziness 430 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 5: that happened a couple of years back. They got caught 431 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 5: in some racist stuff on tape. Now you live here, 432 00:19:58,800 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 5: so maybe you might remember. 433 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: And I won't get into all that, but right, anyway, 434 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: one person actually, well, Kevin DeLeon, and he was on 435 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: he was part of the tape, and you know there 436 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: was some racist stuff going on, and everybody else kind 437 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: of bowed out. 438 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 4: I'm gonna resign or you know, because that's. 439 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: What you do historically, right, you get caught up in 440 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: a scandal, you you fall on the sword. 441 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 4: Forgive me, I was wrong, No, no, no, no, right. 442 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: One thing we've learned, especially with politicians lately, they have 443 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: learned what you said, the news cycle will end. I'll 444 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: push through. I'll stand on this for a minute. You 445 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: guys will forget you move on. We'll go on to 446 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: the next, you know, big topic. You'll go on to 447 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: the next scandal. And here I'll stand right. And that 448 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: has happened so many different people. Kind of the shame 449 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: is gone. It's like, yeah, I did that, My bad, 450 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: I was crazy. So what you resigned? No, I'm good, 451 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: you're stepping down. And I think if you just stand 452 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: on business now, even if the business is wrong nowadays, 453 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: we'll go that's wrong, that's wrong. Oh, there's the other thing, 454 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: and we'll move on to whatever the hot topic is. 455 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: Now. 456 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: You see a lot of people staying in positions were historic. 457 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: They would do the you know, I'm sorry, I did that, 458 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: and I mean and then I'm gonna bow down and 459 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pass the baton. 460 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 4: And now that's not happening nowadays. 461 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: A lot of people are like Fox Sports Radio has 462 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all 463 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com and within 464 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. 465 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: You're the perfect person to be here because you played 466 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: many years in the NFL and you inexperience. Maybe you 467 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: experience a little bit of what I want to get 468 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: you here, and that is when you have fans. 469 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 4: If you recall, Marte was heckled by a fan. 470 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: They said something about his mother who was late, his 471 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: late mother, and he kind of had a breakdown emotional moment. 472 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: To me, it looked more so like I'm frustrated, I 473 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: can't do anything about it. I'm insulted, I'm hurt angered. 474 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: All that kind of rolled up in one and the 475 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: tears looked a little bit more like you know what 476 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Like I want to do something, but I can't. 477 00:21:59,000 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: How dare you? 478 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: MLB comes down they say that this twenty year old 479 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: fan would be banned in definitely. 480 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 4: From MLB ballparks. Wow, so they did come down hard. 481 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: But Rob g knows how much my disdain goes and 482 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: how deep it is for fans who act like idiots 483 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: in ballpark stadium and arenas. I don't think you understand 484 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: how bad my disdain is for this. Let me articulate it. 485 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 7: Do it? 486 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 4: You hear you. 487 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: It's the only place in life were full fledged grown 488 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: adults are allowed to be kids. 489 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 4: Yep. 490 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: You could also argue maybe American politics it's the only 491 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: place where you are allowed to be violent. And people go, well, 492 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: you paid the cost to be violent, or based on 493 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: the person who is the victim, their income level, we go, oh, 494 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: man up, Carros in the NFL, he's making a million. 495 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: He'd be all right that you threw a battery at him, 496 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: that you dump popcorn on him, don't that you threw 497 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: beer at him, that you flicked him off, you called 498 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: him then word you said, his mom, his late mothers 499 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: of this. It's the only but we work here Fox 500 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: Sports Radio, we work at iHeartMedia. Nobody can come in 501 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: here right now and throw a battery at me, a 502 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: snowball at me and it just goes. You know, just 503 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: got to take it, man. You know you make millions, 504 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: not that I make millions, but you get the point. 505 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 506 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: And it's the most asinine thought that we put the 507 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: onus on the athlete, the human, the person in that position, 508 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: the victim, and we go, oh, just man up, you'll 509 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: be all right. 510 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 4: So what you get paid. 511 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: Whereas any other any other profession, the assailant is held 512 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: and judge based off of those actions that adult. 513 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 4: So I don't get it. I never will. 514 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: I don't sit at me And Rob just argued a 515 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago about this because I'm firm believer 516 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: and if I'm sitting here trying to be cool, I'm 517 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: in profession. 518 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 4: I'm passionate. 519 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 7: Right. 520 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: We want you guys to play hard. You care about 521 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: this day, your blessed one and tears are in it. 522 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: And it's outsider who paid fifty nine to ninety nine 523 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: for a ticket gets to throw a beer at me, 524 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: and I'm supposed to go, okay, it takes like a 525 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: Budweiser and just be all right with it. It's crazy 526 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: to me, and that you can insult my late mother 527 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: is crazy to me. Help me understand why people are 528 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: actually okay with this and why people expect the athletes 529 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: to be gandhi in this case. 530 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 5: You know, like the number one thing with this is 531 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 5: people use it as an outlet, right, Like obviously they're 532 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 5: in their nine to five jobs or whatever they're doing 533 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 5: outside of you know, that arena. They're going to see 534 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 5: this is their moment to step outside of that reality 535 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 5: and step into this reality. That it's fair game for 536 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 5: me to do whatever I want to do to the athlete, right, 537 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 5: I understand that part of it doesn't make it right, 538 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 5: absolutely not, So I think that kind of comes with 539 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 5: the territory. But I think the ultimate thing that gives 540 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 5: them the courage to do these things is the alcohol. 541 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: Oh. 542 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 5: I think being belligerent at these games and not really 543 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 5: being in sound mind and body is the reason this happens, right. 544 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 5: But then obviously the other thing that goes that's attached 545 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 5: to that is they see those gladiators or those people 546 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 5: in the sport as that and so if I can 547 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 5: get under the skin of that person or I can 548 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 5: do XYZ to that person, there's an elevation to their 549 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 5: mystique as well as a human And so when you 550 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 5: look at those things like that, it's very easy for 551 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 5: me to see it as what it is. But when 552 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 5: you're talking somebody about their dead mother, like, there has 553 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 5: to be a line. Obviously he can't do anything to you, 554 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 5: and you know that, so you feel compere oled or 555 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 5: to do it. Hope that yeah, right right right, We've 556 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 5: seen it happen the mallets in the Palace. We've seen 557 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 5: you can't mess with everybody, And so I think when 558 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 5: you get to see these things and these scenarios happen 559 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 5: like there is there are, there are consequences to this, 560 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 5: and I think if you get some of these players 561 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 5: at the wrong time or the right time, you will 562 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 5: find out. And for me, so I'm I'm a proponent 563 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 5: of just be human in every aspect of your life. 564 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 5: If you're going to see a game, go enjoy it. 565 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 5: Be loud, be rowlly. Wat's what you're saying. These are 566 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 5: human beings that are going through it motion just like 567 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 5: you are. Don't do that. 568 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: I showed up on Sunday, I showed up on a 569 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: Tuesday in the NBA, showed up on the NBA MLB. 570 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 4: You don't know what it took me to get here. 571 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: Child could be sick, my mother could be going through it, 572 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: money issues, going through a divorce, like there's a million 573 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: things that could be going on, and you coming in 574 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: just because you get you know, I hate my ninety 575 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: five and I'm drunk, I say whatever, And you know 576 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: it also drives me crazy. Is that oftentimes when you 577 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: look at stuff that happens, and then we do the 578 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: documentary Mouths of the Palace, what do you find out, Oh. 579 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 4: Man, I was having alcoholism. I was an alcoholic. 580 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 6: You know. 581 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: It's like all these people get to go and be 582 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: saw some and normally the folks who are doing it, 583 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: the folks who are fighting at games where you're sitting 584 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: there with your five year old boy or girl. 585 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, usually you know, I was going through some issues 586 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 4: in my life, so it's like this is their moment. 587 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: Uh huh, Well they get the spas out of that crazy, 588 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: but I have to be the recipient of their pain 589 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: and hurt and lack of therapy. 590 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you do. 591 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: And it drives it just drives me crazy because most 592 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: people go and have a good time and they might 593 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: you suck. 594 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm cool with that, yo, light them up, do 595 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 4: this you know, boo, you did it? 596 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm cool with all that, right, But once you 597 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: start calling people racial slurs and talking about their late 598 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: mother and doing this, it's like more you know what 599 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: they say, They say, give somebody a bunch of money, 600 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: find out who they really are. To me, I say, 601 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: give somebody a little bit of alcohol, take them to 602 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: a sporting event, find out who they really are. Because 603 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people are going to go have 604 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: a good time. Whooa man, we had a great game. 605 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: When you want to go next and there's a lot 606 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: of people going to get you show you their real character, 607 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: and it just blows me away. And so man, you know, 608 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: I just saw that and again to see him in tears, frustrated. 609 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: You had his coaches and everybody kind of had to 610 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: come out with solo. Man, that's just weird. It's just 611 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: strange to me. And I'm always blown away at how 612 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: the leagues and I get it right. The fans paid 613 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: for all of this and the idea of that we 614 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: want these folks to come and you know, not feel like, hey, 615 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: I might go get beat up if I say you suck, 616 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: But I just feel like, man, you also got to 617 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: protect your players. 618 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, the NBA has gotten better. I'll give them credit. 619 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 4: They have. They've gotten better. 620 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 1: These players will be like yo, yo, yo, my man 621 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: right there, he said blah blah blah blah blah blah 622 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: he did blah blah blah. He just I see him. 623 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: He's fawming at the mouth in my wife's ear at 624 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: the game. 625 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 4: You know. And they've gotten better at that. I'll give 626 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 4: them credit. 627 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 5: And the reason they had to get better is because 628 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 5: their fans are too close to the action, and that's 629 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 5: the that's the that's the caveat right. 630 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 4: Yep. 631 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 5: MLB and NFL, even tennis like this, they're some distance. 632 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 5: So the words they're saying, whatever it is, it's words 633 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 5: and things happen. So that's a little different. The NBA 634 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 5: is you had to, you had to. They're right up 635 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 5: on you. 636 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: But I just yeah it again, man, I just I'm 637 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: blown away by these aren't high schoolers, right, these are 638 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: oftentimes forty fifty sixty. 639 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 4: Year old grown men. Act. 640 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm like grown women. I'm blown away getting in the 641 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: fights a game? What are you fighting on? Why are 642 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: we forty eight knuck it up at a game? And 643 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: my my saying always has been this because you played 644 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: in this particular sport, y'all fighting over men and tights 645 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: who don't even know you, don't know you at all, 646 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: and you were in there. 647 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 4: You know the raiders, suck rubs, you know it, lions. 648 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 4: My nose broken and you gotta come home. 649 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: She's screaming because your nose is twisted and your nose 650 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: is on your cheekbone and you're blooded up and you 651 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: gotta explain it. 652 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 4: Why you fight? 653 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: Well, he shaid our receiver sucks. I know, that's not 654 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: why we at the hospital right now with this hospital 655 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: bill exactly because and you're embarrassed and you got fired 656 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: from your job because they saw it because he said 657 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: this receiver sucked. Well, I mean, you know, I'm like, man, 658 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: it's just I'll never understand that. Maybe I'm wrong. No, 659 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: you're not wrong. 660 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 5: I just think there is there's levels to it, obviously, 661 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 5: and the things that you know, once it started getting 662 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 5: really personal and stuff like that, obviously that's part of 663 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 5: the trash talk that happens. 664 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 4: But come on, man, be respectable.