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Speaker 1: This is Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by Invisi Line,

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Speaker 1: and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison.

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Speaker 3: What Up, Cowboys Nation, Happy Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Welcome into Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by invis Line.

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Speaker 3: Here in the s to BBC studio.

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Speaker 4: I'm Nicole Hutchinson alongside Ayisha Morrison and Christie Scales in

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Speaker 4: the studio with me today.

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Speaker 5: How y'all doing all right? Good?

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Speaker 6: Good good?

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Speaker 3: That's it great? That's it.

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Speaker 7: Two game win streak. Let's go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all sound did you know what got?

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Speaker 3: God?

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Speaker 5: It's a lot more, it's a lot It's not as

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Speaker 5: bad coming through the record, and then when you actually

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Speaker 5: scream it at it really Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like y'all need some energy, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm here to bring it.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna bring.

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Speaker 5: It all for you guys.

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Speaker 4: But first we're gonna run through this update on the

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Speaker 4: injuries that Mike McCarthy gave us yesterday, just to real

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Speaker 4: fast because the players are off today, so of course

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Speaker 4: no practice. Wanya Thomas he had the meniscus issue from

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Speaker 4: the game against the Giants, so he'll be out for

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Speaker 4: two to three weeks. Ceedee Lamb Mike McCarthy said that

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Speaker 4: he will be assessed on Wednesday. Josh Butler, of course

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Speaker 4: is done for the season with an ACL injury.

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Speaker 5: He will need surgery.

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Speaker 4: Tyler Guiden of course suffering the high ankle spraying against

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Speaker 4: the Giants, and you remember he was nursing the shoulder injury.

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Speaker 8: From previous weeks.

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Speaker 4: He will be with the rehab group per Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 4: Zach Martin will get some work in with the rehab

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Speaker 4: group on Wednesday. Trayvon Diggs mich McCarthy's hopeful that he

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Speaker 4: will be getting in some work this week.

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Speaker 8: And Jake Ferguson.

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Speaker 4: Michaeccarthy is very optimistic that he is close to be

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Speaker 4: coming back. In DeMarcus Lawrence, he said that he has

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Speaker 4: to hit another threshold before he comes back per Mike

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Speaker 4: McCarthy as well.

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Speaker 5: But let's talk about Josh Butler.

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Speaker 4: Him coming off of the couple of games that he

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Speaker 4: had and then to see his season come to an

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Speaker 4: end like that just what kind of a hit is

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Speaker 4: this to the secondary?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, at this point, I feel like you've gone through

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Speaker 5: so much that it's like you just, I don't know,

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Speaker 5: we just kind of roll with the punches into the

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Speaker 5: end of the year. I mean, it's just unfortunately the

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Speaker 5: position group that has just gotten hit when you talk

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Speaker 5: about the defensive line and then the secondary. But I

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Speaker 5: think it is again just another opportunity for Like we

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Speaker 5: saw Josh Butler step up, they were rotating he and

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Speaker 5: Israel mccuamo out, So I would assume that maybe well,

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Speaker 5: actually no, depending on what happens with Diggs, we don't know,

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Speaker 5: but I do think we would see Israel mcwuamoll step

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Speaker 5: talked about it is like with the season where it is,

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Speaker 5: you know, these guys are playing for you know, they're

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Speaker 5: playing for their lives like they are like they're playing

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Speaker 5: for you know, obviously for the team, but they're also

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Speaker 5: playing to make sure like that they're putting a good

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Speaker 5: for me, it's just like I'm really hurting for Josh Butler.

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Speaker 5: I really simply empathized with him because we got to

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Speaker 5: see like that he got a shot, you know, and

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Speaker 5: he performed well and I'm sure he's probably he's proud

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Speaker 5: of that, but to see it happened that way was

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Speaker 5: very disheartening. So wishing him a well recovery.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you knew that it was bad just from the

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Speaker 9: sideline perspective, the way that he grasped for that knee

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Speaker 9: right away, and it was you knew it wasn't going

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Speaker 9: to be good. And you know, we talk about corners,

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Speaker 9: Warrior he'll be able to start working back, you know,

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Speaker 9: so he'll probably be added to the fifty three man

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Speaker 9: He was actually elevated from the practice squad and yet

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Speaker 9: declared inactive for the game, so they wasted one of

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Speaker 9: his practice squad elevations. But you wonder if he may

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Speaker 9: be added to the fifty three man roster as well.

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Speaker 5: You think that he's he should be a to the

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Speaker 5: fifty three mint roaster.

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Speaker 7: Not before Hall.

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Speaker 9: The other thing is Hall has well I guess they

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Speaker 9: both in a pinch. Hall played inside in the slot,

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Speaker 9: particularly in the preseason, and so what I imagine that you

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Speaker 4: It sucks because you really haven't seen a true like

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Speaker 4: outside cornerback Tandeon just yet for this team.

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Speaker 9: No, and that's what's going to be one of the

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Speaker 9: been deficient in terms of the takeaways this year, Well

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Speaker 9: you haven't. You didn't have Bland until the last couple

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Speaker 5: For sure.

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Speaker 4: And going back to Josh Butler, I'm looking at his

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Speaker 4: contract situation too.

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Speaker 5: I believe it ends.

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Speaker 5: So I do feel for Josh Butler.

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Speaker 4: But moving on to the offensive side of the ball

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Speaker 3: Y'all like what y'all saw from Jimmaidoga? You gotta see

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Speaker 3: a little bit more what y'all's thoughts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, he's a guy. He looked like a

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Speaker 5: think that what I've seen from him specifically in the

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Speaker 5: because he hasn't played football in a while. But other

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Speaker 5: than that clunky, just defeat. Oh okay, you know, just defeat,

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Speaker 5: like I feel like. And honestly, I felt like that

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Speaker 5: Whatever he was doing is again like he's his body.

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Speaker 5: He probably wants to do certain things, but he can't

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Speaker 5: an offensive lineman as well, right, And so I think

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Speaker 5: of But I will say I'm not sure if Austin Richards,

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Speaker 5: if Austin Richards was healthy, if that wouldn't be Awesome

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Speaker 5: Richards out there, because I do feel like Awesome Richards

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Speaker 5: this guy could possibly be your potential swing because he's

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Speaker 5: a draft pick. He's not some guy that they just

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Speaker 5: that they paid too many Doga, but what I think

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Speaker 5: that they brought in Tuma to help with the transition

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Speaker 5: think that Austoin Richards may have had the shot. But

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Speaker 5: Tuma's out there right now and he seems to have

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Speaker 5: a good feel for what they're doing in the run game.

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Speaker 5: He's not bad against the past either.

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Speaker 4: But do you feel like if well not if when

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Speaker 4: Ausome gets healthy again, you feel like it'll just be

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Speaker 4: a Tyler Guidon Awesome Richard's situation.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, we can't forget about it, and it

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Speaker 5: forget about Nathan Thomas out of a Louisiana left tackle.

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Speaker 5: plantar fasciata, it was something else. And this is a

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Speaker 5: guy that you know, again another draft pick, a lower

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Speaker 5: go look at his tape, I think that he went

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Speaker 5: didn't see him. I didn't see that much from him

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Speaker 5: no he had his senior year, he had no holds

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Speaker 5: like this is also a clean player, So I feel

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Speaker 5: like he has value. We just didn't get to see him.

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Speaker 5: So I do think that those guys will maybe be

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Speaker 9: You know guys totally agree with that. Because Chimaduga was

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Speaker 9: signed to a one year deal, so he's not signed

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Speaker 9: after this year now. He was I think one of

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Speaker 9: those bridge kind of guys. But but let me let

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Speaker 9: me ask you, guys, if you know that Guiitan's gonna

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Speaker 9: miss multiple weeks and you know you don't have awesome

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Speaker 9: Richards and you know right now it's gonna be Tuma

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Speaker 9: Adoga and then the backup is Matt will let's go

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Speaker 9: because Nathan's not ready to come back. He's still on

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Speaker 9: ir Do you leave Tyler Smith at left guard or

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Speaker 9: do you kick him out to left tackle like you

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Speaker 5: I think I just you rolle with Tuma. I think

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Speaker 5: you wrote with Chuma. Tuma is again. I think he

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Speaker 5: besides some of the communication things we've seen in the past,

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Speaker 7: Do you entertain the deal?

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Speaker 5: You better what Tyler Schmith guard? I was gonna go opposite.

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Speaker 4: But then why not to take the easier not easier

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Speaker 7: I think it'd be TJ.

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Speaker 5: They would put TJ. Bass back at left guard, and

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Speaker 9: Don't you want to give him the snaps in practice?

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Speaker 7: Whoever is playing there.

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Speaker 5: Quiet has kept they probably they might be already. They

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Speaker 9: And that's why I pose the question, but I'll just

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Speaker 7: You're probably right You're probably.

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Speaker 9: And let me let me just say that in the NFL,

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Speaker 7: Fact two different things.

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Speaker 5: That's true.

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Speaker 9: Injured you don't play hurt. Different degrees of hurt and

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Speaker 9: And if Zach Martin is healthy enough to play, he plays.

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Speaker 9: Need to rush him back, absolutely, and he knows his

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Speaker 5: Gritzter's no, Like, this is a human being. So however

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Speaker 5: But I definitely think that brock Hoffman right now being

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Speaker 4: This is a nine time Pro Bowl or future Hall

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Speaker 5: But I do agree with you.

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Speaker 4: Just rolling with Brack Coffin for now, just because you

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Speaker 4: down down register.

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Speaker 5: That was my thing.

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Speaker 8: I need to go all right.

442
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Speaker 3: Cowboys helps the Cincinnati.

443
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Speaker 4: Bengals in a Monday night football match up. The Cowboys

444
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Speaker 4: lead the overall series ten to four against the Bengals.

445
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to you Christy first, because it is

446
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Speaker 4: Christie's classroom. For a second, one, what do you remember

447
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Speaker 4: about the first and only time the Cowboys have played

448
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow?

449
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Speaker 7: Yeah? I remember.

450
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Speaker 9: It was early in the season and the one of

451
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 9: the punts hit the scoreboard, the overhead digital board, and

452
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 9: the officials didn't see it, So I don't you know,

453
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Speaker 9: you just remember crazy things like that. But the other

454
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Speaker 9: thing is the only time that the Cowboys have played

455
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Speaker 9: Joe Burrow, the opposing quarterback was Cooper Rush. Because this

456
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Speaker 9: was the game where Dak had gotten hurt in the

457
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Speaker 9: season opener, and Cooper Rush had to come in and

458
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Speaker 9: the Cowboys actually won the game. Brett Maher kicked a

459
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Speaker 9: fifty yard field goal as time expired, and the Cooper

460
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Speaker 9: Rush led Cowboys beat Joe Burrow twenty to seventeen. And

461
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Speaker 9: that was a big game for Noah Brown. That was

462
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Speaker 9: kind of his coming out party. He had a touchdown catch,

463
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Speaker 9: He had a big catch in the fourth quarter. What

464
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Speaker 9: had happened was the Bengals had rallied in midway through

465
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Speaker 9: the fourth quarter. They scored a touchdown and then a

466
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Speaker 9: two point conversion to tie it up, and then the

467
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 9: Cowboys had the ball late and Cooper Rush led him

468
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Speaker 9: down close enough for ma Her to kick the game winner.

469
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Speaker 9: So yeah, it was really great because that was the

470
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Speaker 9: year where Cooper Rush went what four and one filling

471
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Speaker 9: in for Dak. So everyone was so excited. It's like, oh,

472
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Speaker 9: maybe the season isn't over with Dak being out and

473
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Speaker 9: missing several weeks. The other thing was the Bengals were

474
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Speaker 9: coming off They had gone to the Super Bowl the

475
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Speaker 9: year before, so they were the defending AFC champs. The

476
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Speaker 9: other the other thing that really stood out in my

477
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Speaker 9: mind is Joe Burrow. There were so many people down

478
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Speaker 9: on the field before the game, and instead of watching

479
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 9: the Cowboys warming up, everyone was focused on Joe Burrow,

480
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 9: the star power that that kid has, and so many

481
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Speaker 9: people wearing purple because every LSU fan in you know,

482
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Speaker 9: the tri state area was there, and I think that

483
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 9: there are gonna there's gonna be a lot of purple

484
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Speaker 9: and the stands on Monday as well, people who are

485
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Speaker 9: big Joe Burrow fans. But just it was electric around him.

486
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Speaker 9: And we're kind of immune to it because back in

487
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Speaker 9: the days of the Triplets or even with Romo, or

488
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 9: when t O or Dez would be out there and

489
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Speaker 9: certainly Zeke and Dak, you know, you're used to all

490
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Speaker 9: that focus being on these Cowboys players. But for it

491
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Speaker 9: to be on somebody else and just the the cool

492
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Speaker 9: Joe you know, oh man, oh they do and and

493
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Speaker 9: it really won't say it shocked me, but just the

494
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Speaker 9: the charis, the excitement, you could really feel it.

495
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Speaker 4: I covered him in LSU when they won the national

496
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Speaker 4: championship that year in twenty nineteen, and let me tell you,

497
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Speaker 4: the people in LSU absolutely.

498
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Speaker 5: Well he was awesome him. Hete he's phenomenal, the weapons

499
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Speaker 5: on that team. It was about him, but also to

500
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Speaker 5: I mean, the man the guys says the chase come

501
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 5: on that team was unfair. Yeah, it was.

502
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Speaker 4: That's the perfect way to use if you were to

503
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Speaker 4: describe that team. But no, you look at the Bengals

504
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Speaker 4: right now, four and eight, fresh off their sixth loss,

505
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Speaker 4: allowing twenty five points or more, the Cowboys walking in

506
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Speaker 4: as six point underdogs at home. Even despite winning their

507
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Speaker 4: first game at home.

508
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Speaker 3: Against the Giants. The Bengals have.

509
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Speaker 4: Lost three straight by total of fourteen points. They've also

510
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Speaker 4: scored ninety nine points.

511
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Speaker 5: In their losses. They're very confounding.

512
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Speaker 4: Bengals are not a reflection of their record at all.

513
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Speaker 5: Yeah, their offense isn't. Their offense is explosive and unpredict

514
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 5: the ball in a sense. I was looking at them

515
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 5: briefly last night. Sorry, oh no, no, no, I'm just kinda no, no, no, no, yet,

516
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 5: we're not doing no Zach Taylor. Their OC is very

517
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 5: creative and how he sets up the run to you know,

518
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 5: to open up the pass and vice versa, and just

519
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 5: the usage of his different players. I was just looking

520
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 5: at some of their fronts, how they run the ball

521
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 5: and the creativity and that where he really gets you

522
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 5: looking one way and it's not super misdirectionally like a

523
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 5: whole bunch of motion at the line of scrimmage. It's

524
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Speaker 5: a no, like it looks like we're going to have

525
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 5: we're gonna zone block right here, but we're really about

526
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 5: to come around the outside and down like it's it's

527
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Speaker 5: And I think that Eric Kendricks is a guy you

528
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 5: know that will be able to read this stuff. But

529
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Speaker 5: they really sell their fakes too. If you watch them,

530
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 5: like their fakes are legit, where they you really think

531
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Speaker 5: they running back. It was a couple of times I

532
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 5: was like, dang, why did he tackle? Oh that was

533
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 5: a good fake crying. I'll be lefing at myself sometimes. Girl,

534
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 5: film be funny if you watch some of those, buddy,

535
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 5: be like, what are you doing right here? Anyway? Yes,

536
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 5: this offensive line for Cincinnati has gotten a fair share

537
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 5: of Rick Kule and things like that, but they have

538
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 5: cleaned up, especially in the last three weeks, the amount

539
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 5: of pressure and stuff they are allowing. They're still they

540
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 5: have some young guys on this offensive line. Orlando Brown

541
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Speaker 5: is the left tackle for them. He has some experience,

542
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 5: he's pretty respected through the league. I'll give him that

543
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 5: Mary's Mems on the right side, a rookie right tackle

544
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 5: that a lot of people had a lot of opinions

545
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 5: about coming out the draft because of his lack of experience.

546
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 5: He is getting his feet wet, to say the least.

547
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Speaker 7: That's a nice way to say.

548
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 5: Yes, he's getting his feet wet, just like Tyler Goyton,

549
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 5: just like some of these other like this is a

550
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 5: learning period time. But I will say I just their

551
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 5: offense is it is confus us because they also have

552
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Speaker 5: times in games where they don't look like that team

553
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 5: and that's why they are losing some of these close games.

554
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 5: They have lapses of penalties and there's a couple of

555
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 5: times again these young tackles will get a holding and

556
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 5: stuff like that. Very so much of the Cowboys where

557
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 5: they're driving, they're trying to figure things out. But yeah,

558
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 5: the the weaponry on that side this Cowboys defense is

559
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 5: gonna be tested. Sister, I know you was looking like that.

560
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 4: What's something that what's an offensive line from this season

561
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Speaker 4: that you feel has done similar things that they do

562
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Speaker 4: As far as.

563
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Speaker 3: The confusion the Cowboys have faced.

564
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Speaker 4: And it may not be anybody I'm just no, no, no, no, no,

565
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 4: you're you're you're right.

566
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Speaker 5: I'm trying to think that they can.

567
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 3: Kind of look back to on the film and say, all.

568
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Speaker 5: Right, let me go like a comparison, I'm let me

569
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 5: go look at some of their games they play. I

570
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 5: can give you a better like I need to see,

571
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 5: like who y'all have been playing? Uh, let me look.

572
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 5: Wouldn't be the Giants? No, absolutely not, please false.

573
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Speaker 9: I mean, like, you know, Detroit, you could argue has

574
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Speaker 9: probably the best offensive line. But I don't know that

575
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 9: they really like fool anybody. I mean, they can just

576
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 9: like punch you in the mouth.

577
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 5: I would say close, A close comparison might be Yeah,

578
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 5: might be New Orleans. New Orleans isn't as Again, I

579
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 5: still think New Orleans is more pre snap like Super

580
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 5: frinchis Schmucher Schmunchers. Yeah, this is not like that. Their

581
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 5: they're run, they're running. Blocking scheme is very much so

582
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 5: just like counting on your eyes looking somewhere else. Because

583
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 5: Burrow is not super mobile, so you can't sell the

584
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 5: RPO like but he can be. Yes, he can run

585
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 5: if he if he needs to be, but that's just

586
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 5: not mostly his game. They're not trying to sell you

587
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 5: the r PO. They're really trying to sell you like,

588
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 5: oh you think that you think that I'm giving to

589
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 5: giving the ball to the tight end right here. No,

590
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 5: I'm actually slipping back door to a running back and

591
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 5: your guy is out of his lane because they also

592
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 5: line up to They line up to where you're out wide.

593
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 5: They try to kick you and get you out of

594
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 5: get you out the way. So the Cowboys defensive ends

595
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 5: are going to have to play smart and not get

596
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 5: caught on the outside because this offensive line wants to

597
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 5: get to the second level. They want to get to

598
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 5: the outside. They're not alike, run at you straight up

599
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 5: the gut type offensive line. No, they want to be

600
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 5: able to attack you on the outside and also to

601
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 5: they use that to help their pass to which is lethal. Also,

602
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 5: Lord have mercy, who plant corner this week?

603
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 4: Hopefully a snapcount some stress, stop asking questions.

604
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 7: Here's something.

605
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Speaker 9: The offense is not the problem for the Bengals. They're

606
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Speaker 9: four and eight, but they are one of the top

607
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 9: scoring teams in the league. They're averaging twenty eight points

608
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 9: per game. Okay, I'm rounding up the seven nine.

609
00:29:59,200 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 7: Here's the thing.

610
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Speaker 9: They're averaging twenty seven point nine points per game. That's wonderful.

611
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 9: The problem is their defense is giving up twenty eight

612
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 9: point three. Their defense is surrendering way too many points.

613
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Speaker 9: In fact, I'm at it, I'm gonna do Let's use

614
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 9: thirty three points as the.

615
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: Mark.

616
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that's that is tremendous.

617
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Speaker 9: If you score thirty three points in a game, fantastic

618
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 9: The Cowboys.

619
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Speaker 7: Excuse me.

620
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Speaker 9: The Bengals have done it six times in twelve games.

621
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Speaker 9: At their games, they have reached at least thirty three points,

622
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Speaker 9: and they are two and four. They have lost four

623
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Speaker 9: games when scoring thirty four points.

624
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 5: That crazy.

625
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 9: The rest of the league only fifty only fifty three games.

626
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 9: Everybody else combined all thirty one other teams have reached

627
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 9: thirty three points only fifty three times. They are fifty

628
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 9: two to one the Cowboys. The Cowboys have reached thirty

629
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 9: three points or more only twice, back in Week one

630
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 9: at Cleve when the road win, and by the way,

631
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 9: part of that came from Cavante Turpin's punt return. And

632
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 9: then that crazy ending in Washington two weeks ago, a

633
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 9: week and a half ago, whenever it was with all

634
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 9: the points in the fourth quarter. That was the two

635
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 9: kickoff returns.

636
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 5: But you said, lady, the Cowboys got a score point.

637
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 7: So I'm telling you that that.

638
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 9: Yeste Turpin and the only The Cowboys are averaging twenty

639
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 9: point nine points, barely over twenty points a game. And

640
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 9: if you take away the overshown interception return for a touchdown,

641
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 9: if you take away Turpins two, the punt and the

642
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 9: kickoff return, and if you take away je Ye Thomas's

643
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 9: kickoff return, it's more.

644
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 7: Like eighteen points a game.

645
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 9: So yeah, Luckily these games aren't played on paper, because

646
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 9: on paper it ain't looking good.

647
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, oh goodness. And here's the thing is,

648
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 5: like the Cowboys have had trouble in the red zone.

649
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 5: They have gotten there. They just make mistakes. They're making

650
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 5: they're getting trips down there. They're just settling for three.

651
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 7: What's working?

652
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 5: Now, this is not the way to do that. I

653
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 5: actually want to go look. Get a look at their

654
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 5: red zone defense. I'm looking at the wrong I'm good.

655
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: Now.

656
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 5: You look at Joe Burrow.

657
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Speaker 3: I mean, you can't say anything about.

658
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 4: Their offense because Joe Burrow first and passing yards yards

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Speaker 4: per game, passing touchdowns, third and QBR, fourth and passer rating.

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Speaker 7: I mean just Pike dropped like that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And it's not and it's not like they're playing

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Speaker 9: from behind and he's amassing a lot of numbers in

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Speaker 9: garbage time.

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Speaker 7: It's not that at all.

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Speaker 5: These are very.

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Speaker 9: Competitive games and finding creative ways to give it up

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Speaker 9: at the end and allow that. That Pittsburgh game on Sunday, Man,

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Speaker 9: if you have uh, you know, the NFL game pass,

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Speaker 9: go back and watch it. That's a heck of a

670
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Speaker 9: fun game to watch, unless you're a Bengals fan, because

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Speaker 9: there have just been so many games this year where

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Speaker 9: they should have they should have it and they're not

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Speaker 9: killing themselves with penalties. They're like the third least penalized

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Speaker 9: team in the league. Yeah, or second least penalized team in.

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Speaker 5: The league, define five. Yeah, it's the timing of it's

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Speaker 5: the timing of them at times for me, and like

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Speaker 5: just some of the like there's times I was watching

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Speaker 5: the Steelers game where as far as the defense, they're

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Speaker 5: communicating so late into the clock, Like I just think,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if they have gotten some new things

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Speaker 5: going on there, like if they're a new coach, because

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Speaker 5: I feel like since these teams for and That's why

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Speaker 5: I'm confused because since these defense I felt like had

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Speaker 5: some discipline to them for a while, like them trips

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Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl. Yes, like they were scoring points,

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Speaker 5: but also to that defense was was coming away with

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Speaker 5: takeaways and playing tough for them. And so I wonder,

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Speaker 5: like what changes have happened, particularly or if there's been

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Speaker 5: any changes, because the offense is doing pretty much all

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Speaker 5: that they can, Like you can't. They have lost three

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Speaker 5: of their four last games. They have averaged thirty five

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Speaker 5: points in those games. What yeah that possible? Like and

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Speaker 5: that's all. The whole thing is a bit confusing and

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Speaker 5: not confusing in the sense of like when I watch

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Speaker 5: their defense, they have guys. They're not some just without

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Speaker 5: talent defense, it's just you can get them. Like there's

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Speaker 5: the when you talk about the discipline side of things,

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Speaker 5: like their eye discipline at times is atrocious.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you something, Do y'all think that with

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Speaker 4: the way that this defense, the Cowboys defense has been

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Speaker 4: playing the past couple of weeks, is enough to slow

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Speaker 4: down this Bengals offense.

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Speaker 9: Who's playing right? Seriously, who's playing in the secondary?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean, now there's parts of their offensive line

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Speaker 5: that you can attack. I do think this is Dallas

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Speaker 5: offensive line. And the pro about this Sincy offense is

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Speaker 5: that they are gonna they rely on passing the ball

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Speaker 5: like they will run the ball Situationally, I'm not saying

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Speaker 5: that that's not something that they do, but they have

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Speaker 5: a lot of weapons to pass the ball, and that's

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Speaker 5: they understand. That's their strength. That's fine that your strength

712
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Speaker 5: on your defense right now is your pass rush. It's

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Speaker 5: not that many strengths. That is one of them. You

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Speaker 5: can get after the quarterback. So I feel like it

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Speaker 5: does kind of not even out, but you do give

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Speaker 5: your yourself a shot with being able to pass rush

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Speaker 5: against these gentlemen. I'm I'm a little straining to lie.

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Speaker 5: I'm like Christie, I'm a little stressed out about it

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Speaker 5: because they can get going very quickly with how they

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Speaker 5: can put up points as well.

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Speaker 4: Chase Brown, they're running back. What does he do well?

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Speaker 4: What doesn't he do well?

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Speaker 5: What you got, Christie?

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Speaker 7: Well, Zach, They he's actually their backup.

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Speaker 9: But then their starter went on ir and so man,

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Speaker 9: he was running free at times and against Pittsburgh's really

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Speaker 9: you know, that's that's a tough team to run against

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Speaker 9: at times, and so I think he's impressive. Don't know

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Speaker 9: how much they're gonna work to him throwing the ball

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Speaker 9: out of the back, but man, he's one of these

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Speaker 9: guys that in space it can be kind of scary.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what. That's one of the things that I

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Speaker 5: was looking at. Like, again, don't get a we haven't

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Speaker 5: got a huge sample size of him. I feel like

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Speaker 5: he's played well considering and I don't think that. I

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Speaker 5: think they do like using him as a receiver though,

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Speaker 5: And that's one of the things I was talking about,

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Speaker 5: is the fact that like, yeah, he's shifting in and

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Speaker 5: out open field. I like the way that he accelerates.

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Speaker 5: That's one of my favorite things about running backs is

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Speaker 5: like when they accelerate, because it is a timing thing

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Speaker 5: to know. I think he understands when to accelerate, and

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Speaker 5: that terrifies me, but I will say I that's he

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Speaker 5: I think he kind of unlocks some of that for them.

745
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Speaker 5: Is the receiving thing, and so they've been using him

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Speaker 5: out the backfield, setting up screens for him, doing stuff

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Speaker 5: like that. But they really are selling play action with

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Speaker 5: him as well, and it works because they think people

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Speaker 5: understand that this is a guy that can be damaging

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Speaker 5: to an extent in the open field. This Chase Brown.

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Speaker 5: This is Sidney Brown's brother. That just hit me. Sidney

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Speaker 5: Brown is a I think he's a safety for the

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia Eagles. He and his brother played together at Illinois.

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Speaker 11: Though.

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Speaker 5: That defense was stellar that year, really really really hard

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Speaker 5: hitting defense, and that just reminded.

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Speaker 3: Me I.

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Speaker 5: Met them at the combine. They're really kind, Yes, very kind.

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Speaker 5: They just hit me, like, oh, I know this human's

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Speaker 5: face because I only se him what their helmets on.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he'll be kind.

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Speaker 5: He's probably not. But how do you think the Cowboys

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Speaker 5: have defended the run as of Lake?

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Speaker 7: It's not perfect, so much better?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for sure, I'm not as terrified.

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Speaker 4: But it goes back to what you're saying about the

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Speaker 4: small sample size when you haven't seen much of what

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Speaker 4: he can really do.

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Speaker 5: That it's unscouted looks. Yeah, this Cowboys defense, I mean

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Speaker 5: he has sixty d's on the year. I mean that's

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Speaker 5: I don't think that that's a small feat. But I

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Speaker 5: will say the thing about it, though, that we're not

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Speaker 5: talking about, is you guys mentioned it before. It's Burrow.

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Speaker 5: It's his ability like the one thing the Cowboys have

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Speaker 5: not done well and they haven't had to deal with

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Speaker 5: too many mobile quarterbacks as of late, but like like

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Speaker 5: like super shifty mobile quarterbacks, they are not containing well.

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Speaker 5: And so to me, like to y'all's point earlier, Joe

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Speaker 5: Burrow is a guy like the footwork in the pocket

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Speaker 5: is insane right now. He is sliding, stepping up in

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Speaker 5: the pocket, making seeing that field see yes, seeing that

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Speaker 5: field open up, and throwing dimes. So for you, when

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Speaker 5: you talk about the secondary being compromised, it's also like

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Speaker 5: these baby, are y'all gonna play man? Y'all gonna play zone?

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Speaker 5: Because I feel like he's gonna hold.

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Speaker 7: Trump, mix it up.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure girl like this man and your backs turned

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Speaker 5: to him. He's taking off. So I wonder if you

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Speaker 5: do say to Marian, I need you to keep an

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Speaker 5: eye on this human because that has been a problem

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Speaker 5: for the Cowboys. I feel like even in some of

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Speaker 5: these games like that, the quarterbacks are just slipping through.

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Speaker 5: It happened last week, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, just

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Speaker 5: slipping through and getting big chunk yardists and sliding all hands.

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Speaker 5: Saw that from Jayden Daniels. Yes, a lot sliding all

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Speaker 5: happy and stuff. Drew Locke did it too. Like that

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Speaker 5: was that was shut down was the fact that they

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Speaker 5: lost contained and he slipped up there. So it's like

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Speaker 5: Bes obviously be concnizant of Chase Brown and well he

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Speaker 5: could do in the open field. But that gazelle over there,

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Speaker 5: dang all tall and stuff, he do like a gazelle.

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Speaker 3: I'm crying.

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Speaker 5: All right, we're gonna take our second break.

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Speaker 3: We gotta go in a few minutes. Up next, we'll

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Speaker 3: be still talking about this defense.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna stick to the pass rush and see the

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Speaker 4: The Cowboys have been plus two and turnover differential.

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Speaker 3: Gets me every time.

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Speaker 4: The last two games, what opportunities we'll be there to

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Speaker 5: Lord Amanda'll be turning the ball over like that.

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Speaker 3: If I was gonna say force fumbles, maybe.

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Speaker 5: That's the only that's the only way you're gonna get

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Speaker 5: Only his guys can get it. Yeah, yeah, he plans.

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Speaker 9: to man or you're not disciplined with your you know,

877
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Speaker 9: controlling the gaps on your pass rush, it can hurt

878
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Speaker 9: you down the field. But really it's it's more with

879
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 9: the intent to pass the ball, right, And so they

880
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 9: talk about in the NFL about two point three seconds,

881
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 9: and so when you when if you affect a quarterback

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Speaker 9: with the pass rush and he's moving around in the

883
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Speaker 9: pocket or moving around outside and buying time, then that's

884
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Speaker 9: very difficult for the defensive backs. I mean, you've got

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Speaker 9: t Higgins and Jamar Chase and these guys that you're

886
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Speaker 9: chasing around, uh, just trying to stick with and for beyond.

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Speaker 7: Two point three seconds.

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Speaker 9: Good luck with that, So that that's what's worrisome. So

889
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Speaker 9: the thing is they're the Bengals are middle of the

890
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 9: pack in terms of sacks allowed. They've allowed thirty. That's

891
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 9: right in the middle of the NFL. So you can

892
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 9: get to them, but you can't yet in terms of

893
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 9: just pinning your ears back and going. You still have

894
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Speaker 9: to maintain that discipline of the rush lanes.

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Speaker 4: Who do you feel like will get the most pressures.

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Speaker 9: Probably Micah And I'm sorry, oh okay, no, just because

897
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Speaker 9: I think that they would move him around right and

898
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 9: and give him some opportunities there. Hey, I wouldn't mind

899
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Speaker 9: seeing uh demo, you know, send marve on on some

900
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Speaker 9: some blitzes.

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Speaker 5: I'll be looking to it, yes, ma'am, I agree, I will.

902
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Speaker 5: I would be looking to attack their interior. Like I

903
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 5: was talking to you guys about before, I think that

904
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 5: Brown and Memes are are pretty good at keeping up

905
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 5: that edge and making keeping it walled off for a borough.

906
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 5: I think that is a huge reason why he's playing well, y'all,

907
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Speaker 5: just be honest with you, because he when he was struggling,

908
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 5: it was a lot of that pressure and stuff was

909
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 5: coming from the tackle position, so he now he can

910
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 5: just sit there. He can see when that pressure is

911
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 5: coming in his and he doesn't mind. Like when I'm

912
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 5: watching him, I see him feel the pressure coming from

913
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Speaker 5: the middle because he can escape to the edges. And

914
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Speaker 5: he also knows his tackles are going and go out

915
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Speaker 5: and run with them. That gives him confidence. So I

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Speaker 5: do think that Dallas should attack the interior of this

917
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Speaker 5: offensive line if that's where they gonna get it. I

918
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 5: think that's where they're gonna make most of their money.

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Speaker 5: Because also too, we didn't get into it, but the

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Speaker 5: Bengals tight ends are willing to block on the side.

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Speaker 7: They can help.

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Speaker 5: They are very willing blockers, not super flashy, not super fancy.

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Speaker 5: Eric Al, I'm sorry what happened to you? Oh Jesus oh.

924
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Speaker 5: Eric All is one of my favorite tight ends in

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Speaker 5: this draft. Came back towards a cl came back, got drafted,

926
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Speaker 5: was killing it his first few weeks of the football season.

927
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Speaker 5: Tears this ACL again a few weeks ago. My heart

928
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Speaker 5: goes out to him. He's a heck of a player.

929
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Speaker 5: But their tight ends are very willing to block, so

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Speaker 5: I do think attack the middle of them going on.

931
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Speaker 9: So this needs to be one of the games of

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Speaker 9: the year for Osa then and.

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Speaker 5: And in fairness, we've seen oh soo DIGGI Zua start

934
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Speaker 5: like he's taking an uptick anyway and pressures and stuff.

935
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Speaker 5: But you're starting to see more of his explosiveness because

936
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 5: Masie Smith's holding it down. I'm telling you, like he's

937
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,959
Speaker 5: he's playing far better football. But that's also gonna allow

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Speaker 5: Zimmer to do some of the blitzing up the middle

939
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Speaker 5: that he wants to do, because I think that's the

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Speaker 5: best way to do it. Because this guy's gonna escape

941
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Speaker 5: and he's gonna make you pay. That's why one thing

942
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Speaker 5: I like about him, he's competitive, he's sweeten the fast,

943
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 5: but he wants to make you pay. He's like, oh,

944
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Speaker 5: you know, I'm just here, cool guy with machades and stuff,

945
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 5: and then he sees you in coverage tripping and he's

946
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 5: gonna make you pay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, hopefully the Cowboys make the Bengals pay.

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Speaker 3: Do you think we hope?

949
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Speaker 5: Hope?

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Speaker 4: All Right, this has been fun, a great day on

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Speaker 4: the show, but we gotta wrap. Fry Morrison, Christy Scales

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Speaker 4: and Nicole had to sin We'll be back here tomorrow.

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