WEBVTT - SYMHC Classics: Flint Sit-down Strike

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Saturday, everybody. We have an upcoming episode about organized

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<v Speaker 1>labor in the nineteen forties in the US, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>got some connections to the National Labor Relations Act of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty five, also known as the Wagner Act. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the Wagner Act and how it related to workers'

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<v Speaker 1>rights to unionize and strike in our episode on the

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<v Speaker 1>Flint sit Down Strike, so we are replaying that episode

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<v Speaker 1>as Today's Saturday Classic. This one originally came out on

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<v Speaker 1>December sixth, twenty twenty one. Enjoy Welcome to Stuff You

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<v Speaker 1>Missed in History Class, a production of iHeartRadio. Hello, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the podcast. I'm Tracy V. Wilson and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Holly Frye. The eighty fifth anniversary of the Flint sit

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<v Speaker 1>Down Strike is this month. That's marked as starting on

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<v Speaker 1>December thirtieth of nineteen thirty six, but that name and

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<v Speaker 1>date don't quite capture the whole of the strike. Flint,

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan was absolutely at the heart of auto manufacturing for

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<v Speaker 1>General Motors, and the strike was largely centered around Flint,

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<v Speaker 1>but this strike also involved workers at GM factories all

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<v Speaker 1>over the United States, and while the major strike activity

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<v Speaker 1>in Flint started on December thirtieth. It also followed earlier

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<v Speaker 1>strikes in other parts of Michigan and in other states.

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<v Speaker 1>So this name and date, as they're commonly known, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really a little bit broader than that. We have talked

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<v Speaker 1>about several strikes on the show before, including strikes in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, Canada, England, and Ireland. But this one

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<v Speaker 1>in particular has been cited as one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>significant and influential strikes in United States labor history, and

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<v Speaker 1>this strike took place while the world was still trying

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<v Speaker 1>to recover from the Great Depression. This economic catastrophe had,

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<v Speaker 1>of course been devastating to people all over the globe.

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<v Speaker 1>General Motors in particular had cut nearly half of its

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<v Speaker 1>staff while also increasing requirements for workers productivity and implementing

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<v Speaker 1>seasonal layoffs. Although the company would loan money to laid

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<v Speaker 1>off workers, they had to pay it back out of

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<v Speaker 1>their wages once they were back on the job. But

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<v Speaker 1>even people who had steady work at GM during the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Depression didn't really have a sense of job security.

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<v Speaker 1>There were so many people who were out of work

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<v Speaker 1>and just desperate for jobs that the company knew it

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<v Speaker 1>could fire anyone for essentially any reason, and have a

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<v Speaker 1>replacement waiting immediately. It was especially true in places like Flint,

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<v Speaker 1>where GM was by far the biggest employer. The US

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<v Speaker 1>government took various steps to try to bolster the nation's

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<v Speaker 1>economy during the depression. One was the National Industrial Recovery

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<v Speaker 1>Act of nineteen thirty three. This was part of President

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<v Speaker 1>Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal, and he signed it into

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<v Speaker 1>law during his first one hundred days in office. This

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<v Speaker 1>was an act quote to encourage national Industrial recovery, to

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<v Speaker 1>foster fair competition, to provide for the construction of certain

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<v Speaker 1>useful public works, and for other purposes. The National Industrial

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<v Speaker 1>Recovery Act suspended a lot of the antitrust legislation that

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about recently in our episodes on Ida Tarbell. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>this Act encouraged businesses to form alliances and to establish

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<v Speaker 1>codes of fair competition. These codes were meant to apply

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<v Speaker 1>across whole industries, setting standards for things like consumer protections,

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<v Speaker 1>fair wages, and prices for goods. The idea was that

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<v Speaker 1>these codes would reduce unfair business practices that were making

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<v Speaker 1>it harder for struggling businesses to stay afloat during the crisis,

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<v Speaker 1>so things like undercutting competitors' prices to the point that

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<v Speaker 1>they just could not go that low. Section se an

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<v Speaker 1>A of the Act read quote, Every code of fair competition, agreement,

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<v Speaker 1>and license, approved, prescribed, or issued under this Title shall

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<v Speaker 1>contain the following conditions. One that employees shall have the

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<v Speaker 1>right to organize and bargain collectively through representatives of their

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<v Speaker 1>own choosing, and shall be free from the interference, restraint,

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<v Speaker 1>or coercion of employers of labor or their agents in

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<v Speaker 1>the designation of such representatives or in self organization or

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<v Speaker 1>in other concerted activities for the purpose of collective bargaining

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<v Speaker 1>or other mutual aid or protection. Two that no employee

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<v Speaker 1>and no one seeking employment, shall be required, as a

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<v Speaker 1>condition of employment, to join any company union, or to

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<v Speaker 1>refrain from joining, organizing, or assisting a labor organization of

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<v Speaker 1>his own choosing. And three that employers shall comply with

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<v Speaker 1>the maximum hours of labor, minimum rates of pay, and

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<v Speaker 1>other conditions of employment approved or prescribed by the President.

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<v Speaker 1>This Act contain lots of provisions that we haven't gotten

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<v Speaker 1>into here, including authorizing the President to establish a federal

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<v Speaker 1>emergency Administration of public works. But in terms of the

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<v Speaker 1>Flint sit down strike, Section seven A was key. It

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<v Speaker 1>protected employee's right to organize and bargain collectively, and this

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<v Speaker 1>was a huge deal. Although the term collective bargaining had

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<v Speaker 1>been coined by British social reformer Beatrice web in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety one, workers had been trying to work together to

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<v Speaker 1>secure better pay in working conditions for centuries, and in

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<v Speaker 1>the US, trade unions and other efforts to collectively bargain

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<v Speaker 1>had been illegal. They were treated as criminal conspiracies. The

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<v Speaker 1>National Industrial Recovery Act was the first federal law legalizing

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<v Speaker 1>union membership and collective bargaining, but in general employers were

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<v Speaker 1>reluctant to comply with various provisions of the Act. There

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<v Speaker 1>were also questions about whether the Supreme Court would find

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<v Speaker 1>it to be unconstitutional. Some employers used this uncertainty to

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<v Speaker 1>justify their non compliance with the law, and they kept

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<v Speaker 1>working directly against their employees' legal right to unionize. As

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<v Speaker 1>a result, labor disputes, including strikes, surged as workers and

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<v Speaker 1>their unions fought for the kinds of rights and protections

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<v Speaker 1>they were legally entitled to, and some of these disputes

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<v Speaker 1>led to violence. In August of nineteen thirty three, Roosevelt

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<v Speaker 1>established the National Labor Board, chaired by Senator Robert F.

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<v Speaker 1>Wagner of New York, to try to mediate between the

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<v Speaker 1>growing labor movement and industry leaders. In addition to Wagner,

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<v Speaker 1>the Board had six members, three each representing labor and industry.

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<v Speaker 1>But the board really didn't have much enforcement power. Companies

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<v Speaker 1>that were operating under one of the codes that had

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<v Speaker 1>been established under the new law were allowed to display

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<v Speaker 1>an emblem of a blue eagle, and all that the

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<v Speaker 1>NLB could really do when companies stopped following the rules

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<v Speaker 1>was to make them take their eagle down. In May

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen thirty five, the Supreme Court issued its decision

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<v Speaker 1>in Scheckter Poultry Corps versus United States, which did indeed

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<v Speaker 1>find the National Industrial Recovery Act to be unconstitutional. At

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, though the act's industrial provisions were supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to expire after two years or sooner if the President

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<v Speaker 1>or Congress decided they were no longer needed, this decision

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<v Speaker 1>came just a few weeks before that expiration date. A

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<v Speaker 1>big reason behind that decision was that this act delegated

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of legislative power to the president without really

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<v Speaker 1>setting guidelines on how the president could use that power.

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<v Speaker 1>That was not the whole decision, obviously, but that's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the crux. People were divided as to whether or

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<v Speaker 1>to what extent this Act had been effective at what

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<v Speaker 1>it set out to do. It was supposed to quote,

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<v Speaker 1>remove obstructions to the free flow of interstate and foreign commerce.

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<v Speaker 1>It was supposed to do that by reducing labor disputes,

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<v Speaker 1>reducing unfair competitive practices, and making sure industries were working

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<v Speaker 1>at full capacity. It had generally improved workers pay and

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<v Speaker 1>working conditions, and it had cut down on some of

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<v Speaker 1>the competitive practices that were undermining the economic recovery, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was also blamed for things like making various goods

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<v Speaker 1>more expensive and slowing the pace of production. The government

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<v Speaker 1>still had a vested interest in this idea of removing

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<v Speaker 1>obstructions to interstate commerce, including obstructions that stemmed from labor disputes,

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<v Speaker 1>and labor activists were advocating for the protections that had

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<v Speaker 1>been part of the National Industrial Recovery Act to be restored.

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<v Speaker 1>This led to the National Labor Relations Act, introduced by

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Wagner and also called the Wagner Act, which was

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<v Speaker 1>signed into law on July sixth, nineteen thirty five. This

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<v Speaker 1>was an act to quote diminish the causes of labor

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<v Speaker 1>disputes burdening or obstructing interstate and foreign commerce, to create

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<v Speaker 1>a National Labor Relations Board, and for other purposes. The

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<v Speaker 1>Act applied to all employers involved in interstate commerce, with

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<v Speaker 1>the exception of airlines, railroads, agriculture, and the government. It

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<v Speaker 1>framed employer's refusal to respect their employee's right to unionize

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<v Speaker 1>or to accept collective bargaining as the cause of industrial

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<v Speaker 1>strife leading to strikes another unrest. The Act also noted

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<v Speaker 1>that companies have a lot more of power than their

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<v Speaker 1>employees do, especially when those employees aren't protected by a

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<v Speaker 1>fair contract or allowed to collectively bargain. It once again

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<v Speaker 1>legalized employee's right to organize and outlawed employer's interference with

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<v Speaker 1>that right, and it also empowered the National Labor Relations

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<v Speaker 1>Board to oversee this whole process and mediate disputes. But

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<v Speaker 1>since the Supreme Court had overturned the National Industrial Recovery Act,

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<v Speaker 1>many employers expected the National Labor Relations Act to be

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<v Speaker 1>struck down as well. Even though the law barred employers

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<v Speaker 1>from interfering with employees' right to unionize. Many employers kept

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<v Speaker 1>doing exactly that, things like hiring detectives to investigate, spy

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<v Speaker 1>on and harass union organizers and members, establishing company unions

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<v Speaker 1>that really represented the interest of the business rather than

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<v Speaker 1>its employees, and firing or demoting people who were suspected

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<v Speaker 1>of organizing or joining a union. So this brings us

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<v Speaker 1>to the US automotive industry and specifically to Flint, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>which we will get to after a sponsor break. The

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<v Speaker 1>American Federation of Labor was established in the late nineteenth

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<v Speaker 1>century to bring craft and trade unions together under one umbrella.

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<v Speaker 1>Its first member unions represented people like tailors, iron molders,

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<v Speaker 1>and carpenters, and in its early years, the AFL did

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<v Speaker 1>not work with industrial unions at all. Craft unions representing

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<v Speaker 1>people like carpenters were considered to represent skilled workers, while

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<v Speaker 1>industrial workers so people who worked on factory assembly lines

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<v Speaker 1>were thought of as unskilled. But around the time the

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<v Speaker 1>Wagner Act was passed, the AFL established a Committee for

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<v Speaker 1>Industrial Organization. This committee soon split off from the AFL

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<v Speaker 1>and it re established itself as its own organization, which

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<v Speaker 1>was the Congress of Industrial Organizations United Auto Workers, was

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<v Speaker 1>established in Detroit, Michigan, in nineteen thirty five, and at

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<v Speaker 1>first it became part of the AFL, and like the AFL,

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<v Speaker 1>its initial focus was mainly on the automotive industry skilled workers,

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<v Speaker 1>not the people who worked on assembly lines in factories.

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<v Speaker 1>But when the CIO split off from the AFL, the

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<v Speaker 1>United Autoworkers went too soon. The UAW was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>organize factory workers, especially at the Big three automakers, GM,

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<v Speaker 1>Ford and Chrysler. GM was the largest auto manufacturer in

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<v Speaker 1>the world at the time, with sixty nine plants in

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five cities, many in the Midwest. Initially, the UAW

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<v Speaker 1>focused more on GM and Chrysler because Henry Ford was

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<v Speaker 1>vehemently anti union. GM actively worked against these unionization efforts.

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<v Speaker 1>According to information unearthed and Senate committee hearings, between nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four and nineteen thirty six, GM spent more than

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred thirty nine thousand dollars on labor detective services,

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<v Speaker 1>more than half of it paid to the Pinkertons. This

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<v Speaker 1>detective work involved everything from investigating union organizers to planting

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<v Speaker 1>spies within the union to harassing and threatening workers. This

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<v Speaker 1>Congressional committee described GM's spy work as quote a monument

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<v Speaker 1>to the most colossal supersystem of spies yet devised in

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<v Speaker 1>any American corporation. There are also reports that GM conscripted

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<v Speaker 1>an organization known as the Black Legion to intimidate and

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<v Speaker 1>threaten its employees. The Black Legion was compared to the

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<v Speaker 1>KKK and was aggressively anti union, and this went beyond

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<v Speaker 1>targeting the union itself and the workers at the factories.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of GM's union busting effort involved telling male workers'

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<v Speaker 1>wives that their husband's union activities were going to get

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<v Speaker 1>them fired, as well as convincing women that their husbands

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<v Speaker 1>were up to no good, suggesting that they were out

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<v Speaker 1>late partying or soliciting sex workers, or that they were

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<v Speaker 1>lying about the union and that they were really spending

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<v Speaker 1>their afterwork time having extramarital affairs. As UAW organizers tried

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<v Speaker 1>to unionize GM's factories, they were working against all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were finding common themes among the workers' gravances

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<v Speaker 1>from plants a plant. A lot of it was in

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<v Speaker 1>line with what we already discussed, like firings that seemed

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<v Speaker 1>arbitrary or retaliatory. The factories were also poorly ventilated, and

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<v Speaker 1>during periods of hot weather, workers passed out or even

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<v Speaker 1>died from overheating, with their coworkers expected to keep working

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<v Speaker 1>until someone came to remove the body. Many of the

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<v Speaker 1>jobs were dangerous, including working around dangerous substances with no

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<v Speaker 1>ventilation or protective equipment. There was also an immense focus

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<v Speaker 1>on speed, to the point that workers on the assembly

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<v Speaker 1>line did not have time to go to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>There was also nobody who could cover for a person

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<v Speaker 1>who became ill or injured on the job. Workers talked

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<v Speaker 1>about people who got sick during the day and kept

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<v Speaker 1>working on the assembly line even though they were vomiting.

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<v Speaker 1>There was also speed up during peak production times, with

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<v Speaker 1>workers expected to complete their tasks on the assembly line

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<v Speaker 1>at seemingly superhuman speeds. If a factory was in danger

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<v Speaker 1>of missing its daily quota, speed up would start near

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<v Speaker 1>the end of people's shifts, when they were already exhausted.

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<v Speaker 1>For many workers, take home pay was not the biggest issue,

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<v Speaker 1>but the way wages were calculated was a problem. Many

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<v Speaker 1>workers on the line weren't paid an hourly or a

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<v Speaker 1>daily rate. They were paid by the peace, and the

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<v Speaker 1>rate for each piece didn't necessarily stay the same. It

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<v Speaker 1>was often set at a higher amount at the start

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<v Speaker 1>of a pay period to encourage the workers to go

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<v Speaker 1>as quickly as possible, but then it would drop as

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<v Speaker 1>payday approached. People wound up making less than they expected,

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<v Speaker 1>and this whole shifting pay rate felt like a bait

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<v Speaker 1>and switch. Women working at the GM factories faced an

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<v Speaker 1>additional layer of hostility. Some reported being sexually harassed and

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<v Speaker 1>even assaulted by their supervisors, who would then use the

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<v Speaker 1>assault as leverage to try to guarantee the women compliance

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<v Speaker 1>at work. All of these factors fed into the sit

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<v Speaker 1>down strike. Most of the strikes that had taken place

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States before this point had involved workers

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<v Speaker 1>leaving their job sites and organizing things like picket lines, demonstrations, protests, pamphleteering,

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<v Speaker 1>and speeches. While the strike at GM in nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six and thirty seven still involved things like picket lines

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<v Speaker 1>and other activities outside the building, those were primarily the

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<v Speaker 1>work of the striking workers' supporters, because in a sit

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<v Speaker 1>down strike, employees stayed inside the factory, physically occupying it.

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<v Speaker 1>This strategy had some advantages for the striking workers. A

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<v Speaker 1>typical strike could only be effective if the vast majority

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<v Speaker 1>of the workers participated. If only a few people walked out,

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<v Speaker 1>the company could just redistribute their work among their coworkers

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<v Speaker 1>or higher replacements without too much trouble. But a sit

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<v Speaker 1>down strike allowed a smaller number of people to take

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<v Speaker 1>control of the whole workplace. Employers also couldn't simply hire

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<v Speaker 1>replacement workers to take over, since the striking workers had

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<v Speaker 1>control of the building. Remaining inside the workplace also gave

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<v Speaker 1>the workers more protection from violence. Employers were reluctant to

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<v Speaker 1>remove workers by force due to the risk of damaging

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<v Speaker 1>expensive machinery and equipment, but there were also some downsides.

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<v Speaker 1>Striking workers had to be separated from their families and

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<v Speaker 1>their friends who didn't work with them, depending on where

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<v Speaker 1>the strike was taking place. Striking workers didn't have access

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<v Speaker 1>to things like bathing facilities or adequate sleeping spaces, although

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<v Speaker 1>some of the GM strikers were able to make reasonably

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable beds with the padding that was used to make

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<v Speaker 1>car seats. Sit down strikes were also questionably legal at best,

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<v Speaker 1>since strikers were essentially trespassing. The idea that a few

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<v Speaker 1>workers could decide to go on strike and take over

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<v Speaker 1>the whole building also ran against the spirit of the

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<v Speaker 1>National Labor Relation Act, which was really focused on the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of a majority of employees forming a union em bargaining,

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<v Speaker 1>not on a smaller number of employees forcing the issue

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<v Speaker 1>by occupying the building. In the US, the first sit

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<v Speaker 1>down strike is generally noted as having happened in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>oh six, when members of the Industrial Workers of the

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<v Speaker 1>World stopped working but stayed at their stations at a

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<v Speaker 1>General Electric factory in Schenectady, New York. Workers in Europe

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<v Speaker 1>started occupying their workplaces after World War One, including roughly

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<v Speaker 1>half of the metal workers in Paris in the spring

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen thirty six, and that led to sweeping labor

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<v Speaker 1>reforms in France. In the US, workers at a rubber

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<v Speaker 1>plant in Akron, Ohio, sat down in early nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six as well. Fisher Body was a division of GM

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<v Speaker 1>and Fisher Body workers in Atlanta sat down at two

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<v Speaker 1>different points in October and November of nineteen thirty six,

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<v Speaker 1>with the November strike spreading to other plants in the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta area as well. Well. Workers at Bendix Products in

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<v Speaker 1>South Bend, Indiana sat down. In mid November and mid December,

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<v Speaker 1>workers sat down at two GM plants in Kansas City, Missouri,

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<v Speaker 1>and then at a body stamping plant in Cleveland, Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as the Kelsey Hayes wheel plant in Detroit, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>All of these were either divisions of or suppliers of GM.

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<v Speaker 1>On December sixteenth, nineteen thirty six, the UAW asked for

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting with GM upper management, but GM refused, maintaining

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<v Speaker 1>that any collective bargaining would have to happen at the

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<v Speaker 1>local level, from plant to plant. But the UAW argued

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<v Speaker 1>that the issues that it wanted to discuss, things like

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<v Speaker 1>recognizing the union for collective bargaining, a seniority system for workers,

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<v Speaker 1>and the tremendous speeds expected of workers on the line,

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<v Speaker 1>were things that applied for every GM factory in the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Late December also wasn't ideal for the UAW to be

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<v Speaker 1>planning a huge strike. Most of GM's workers celebrated Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>so this was just not a great time for people

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<v Speaker 1>to lose their wages or to be separated from their families.

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<v Speaker 1>Since many of GM's factories were clustered together, in the Midwest,

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<v Speaker 1>the weather at the end of the year would probably

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<v Speaker 1>not be all that conducive to things like the pickets

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<v Speaker 1>and the protests that were needed to support the strike.

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<v Speaker 1>And Michigan had elected a new governor, Frank Murphy, who

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<v Speaker 1>was expected to be far more sympathetic to organize labor

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<v Speaker 1>than his predecessor had been, but he was not going

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<v Speaker 1>to take office until January first. However, workers themselves took

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<v Speaker 1>this decision out of the uaw's hands, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get to that after we pause for a sponsor break.

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<v Speaker 1>As the UAW tried to organize GM workers in Flint, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>GM tried to reduce its risk in the event of

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<v Speaker 1>a strike. On December twenty ninth, nineteenth six, the company

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<v Speaker 1>transferred union members out of its Chevrolet body stamping plant

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<v Speaker 1>in Flint that was known as Fisher Body Number two. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>on December thirtieth, the company started removing the dies that

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<v Speaker 1>were used to stamp out body parts from another Flint plant,

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<v Speaker 1>which was Fisher Body Number one. This was one of

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<v Speaker 1>only two sets of dyes that GM was using to

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<v Speaker 1>stamp out auto bodies, and their removal from the plant

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<v Speaker 1>represented not only a loss of jobs because the people

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<v Speaker 1>who did that work would not have work to do anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>but also a loss of leverage. If the workers took

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<v Speaker 1>over the plant with the dies still in it, that

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<v Speaker 1>would stop production on multiple models of GM cars. So

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<v Speaker 1>when the workers at Fisher I realized what was happening

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<v Speaker 1>with the dies, they immediately started a strike, taking over

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<v Speaker 1>the building and workers at Fisher iiO started striking on

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<v Speaker 1>the same day. There are also oral history testimony suggesting

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<v Speaker 1>that another factor might have been at work here as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Flat glass workers had also gone on strike and that

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<v Speaker 1>was leading to a potential glass shortage for car manufacturing.

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<v Speaker 1>If the factories in Flint ran out of glass, production

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<v Speaker 1>would shut down anyway, so workers decided to strike before

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<v Speaker 1>that could happen. The strike's organizers decided that only men

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<v Speaker 1>could occupy the plants during the strike, so while there

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<v Speaker 1>were women working at GM, they could not be part

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<v Speaker 1>of the sit down, but women's participation in other aspects

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<v Speaker 1>of the strike was absolutely critical. The Women's Auxiliary, which

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<v Speaker 1>was organized by twenty three year old Genora Johnson who

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<v Speaker 1>was later Genora Johnson Dollinger, set up a strike kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>to feed the striking workers and their families. They delivered

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<v Speaker 1>food directly to the factories. The Women's Auxiliary also did

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<v Speaker 1>the striker's laundry, and about three weeks into the strike,

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<v Speaker 1>they started a daycare for the striking workers' children. They

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<v Speaker 1>also brought to the factories to visit their family members,

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<v Speaker 1>and they picketed and did other work in support of

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<v Speaker 1>the strike. It took some time for some of these

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<v Speaker 1>efforts to get off the ground, in part because the

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<v Speaker 1>company had put so much effort into sowing distrust of

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<v Speaker 1>the union among the workers wives who support the Women's

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<v Speaker 1>Auxiliary needed. In oral histories recorded in the nineteen eighties

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<v Speaker 1>and nineties, women described going to the factories after the

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<v Speaker 1>strike started expecting to drag their husbands out of some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of debauchery or a radical communist frenzy, but then

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<v Speaker 1>staying to help make food once they realized what was

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<v Speaker 1>actually going on. Whether they worked at GM or not,

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<v Speaker 1>the women involved in the auxiliary faced hostility from company

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<v Speaker 1>supporters and the strike's critics, including people questioning their morality

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<v Speaker 1>and implying that they were sex workers. We should note

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<v Speaker 1>that while there was not like a stereotypical, screaming radical

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy of communism happening in the strike. There were definitely

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<v Speaker 1>communists and socialists among the strikers and within the labor

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<v Speaker 1>movement in general. Both communism and socialism had and have

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<v Speaker 1>a focus on fair treatment of workers. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>really that surprising. Genora Johnson Dollinger, for example, had become

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<v Speaker 1>a socialist at the age of sixteen. She was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the more radical people involved with the strike, though

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<v Speaker 1>many others had a general interest in communist or socialist

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<v Speaker 1>ideals while not formally being a member of either party.

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<v Speaker 1>And we should also take a moment to note that,

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<v Speaker 1>at least as far as we know, all the women

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<v Speaker 1>in the auxiliary in Flint were white. Although GM did

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<v Speaker 1>employ black people in its factories, they were only hired

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<v Speaker 1>in janitorial rules or to work in the foundry. Only

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<v Speaker 1>one black employee, Roscoe van Zandt, is known to have

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<v Speaker 1>sat down in Flint during this strike. During the sit

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<v Speaker 1>down strike, workers inside the plants established rules for behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>including maintaining order, keeping things clean and organized, and mediating disputes.

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<v Speaker 1>As people were cooped up together for weeks, workers held

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<v Speaker 1>lectures and classes for one another. They read and played games,

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<v Speaker 1>and sang songs in order to keep their spirits up.

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<v Speaker 1>Songs included a union anthem called Solidarity Forever that was

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<v Speaker 1>sung to the theme of the Battle Hymn of the Republic,

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<v Speaker 1>and at first GM's response was mostly not to engage.

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<v Speaker 1>GM President Alfred P. Sloan stated quote, we will not

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<v Speaker 1>negotiate with a union while its agents forcibly hold possession

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<v Speaker 1>of our property, and Executive vice president William S. Knudsen

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<v Speaker 1>called the striking workers trespassers and violators of the law

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<v Speaker 1>of the land. GM also argued that the union's bargaining

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<v Speaker 1>efforts were not legal under the National Labor Relations Act

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<v Speaker 1>since fewer than half of the employees had joined the union.

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<v Speaker 1>The UAW countered that GM had illegally interfered with its

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<v Speaker 1>effort to get workers to join, preventing it from getting

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<v Speaker 1>a large your membership. On January second, GM got a

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<v Speaker 1>court order to have the striking workers removed from the factories,

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<v Speaker 1>but the workers refused to go. Then it became public

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge that the judge who issued this injunction, which was

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<v Speaker 1>Edward D. Black, owned a whole bunch of stock in GM.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the clear conflict of interest. People pretty much dropped

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<v Speaker 1>the subject of trying to get this injunction enforced. On

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<v Speaker 1>January fourth, the UAW submitted a list of demands, including

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<v Speaker 1>that the UAW be given exclusive recognition as the bargaining

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<v Speaker 1>agency for workers at GM, abolishing the piece work system,

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty hour work week with time and a half

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<v Speaker 1>for overtime, minimum pay rates, the reinstatement of people who

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<v Speaker 1>had been fired unfairly, a seniority system, and a speed

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<v Speaker 1>of production that was mutually agreed upon by managers and

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<v Speaker 1>a committee from the union. But GM continued to refuse

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<v Speaker 1>to negotiate. On January eleventh, nineteen thirty seven, GM turned

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<v Speaker 1>off the heat and electricity at Fisher II, even though

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<v Speaker 1>the temperature that day was only sixteen degrees fahrenheit or

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<v Speaker 1>almost negative nine celsius. They also locked the factory gate

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>to stop the women's auxiliary from delivering food. Workers and

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<v Speaker 1>their supporters broke the gate open, and that escalated into

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<v Speaker 1>a fight between law enforcement and the workers and their supporters.

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<v Speaker 1>The police used tear gas and they fired upon the workers,

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<v Speaker 1>and the workers defended themselves with things like fire hoses

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<v Speaker 1>and thrown door hinges. Women who were outside the plant

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<v Speaker 1>were also part of this fighting. They were armed with

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<v Speaker 1>things like homemade blackjacks and bars of soap stuffed down

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<v Speaker 1>in the toes of socks. At least sixteen workers and

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<v Speaker 1>eleven police were injured, with most of the worker injuries

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<v Speaker 1>coming from gunshot wounds. In a later oral history interview,

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<v Speaker 1>Genora Johnson Dollinger said of this moment, quote, I was frightened,

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<v Speaker 1>and you first lose all your power of thinking for

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<v Speaker 1>just a matter of moments, and then you become terribly,

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<v Speaker 1>terribly angry that armed policemen are shooting into unarmed men.

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<v Speaker 1>She used the uaw's loudspeaker car to call for women

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:13.880
<v Speaker 1>to come to the factory and stand with the men,

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<v Speaker 1>banking on the idea that police should be reluctant to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot at a group of unarmed women. The striking workers

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<v Speaker 1>nicknamed this incident the Battle of the Running Bulls or

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<v Speaker 1>the Battle of bulls run with bulls being a slang

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<v Speaker 1>term for police, and some of the more radical women

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<v Speaker 1>in the women's auxiliary, including Genora Johnson Dollenger, decided to

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<v Speaker 1>form a new organization afterward, that being the Emergency Brigade.

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<v Speaker 1>Their job was to handle any emergency that arose during

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<v Speaker 1>the strike. This included using their own bodies to shield

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<v Speaker 1>the striking workers from the police, as they had done

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<v Speaker 1>on January eleventh, but it included other things too. For

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<v Speaker 1>the remainder of the strike, including at one point helping

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<v Speaker 1>a striking worker's wife give birth to a baby. The

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<v Speaker 1>Emergency Brigade were red berets and armbands with the letters EB,

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<v Speaker 1>and some members kept working with the Women's Auxiliary while

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<v Speaker 1>also working with the Emergency Brigade. After the violence on

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<v Speaker 1>January eleventh, the UAW and GM reached a tentative agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>The striking workers would leave the plants and GM would

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>start good faith negotiations, with the union not restarting production

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>until those negotiations were complete. Workers who had been striking

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>in other cities, including Cleveland and Detroit, left their plants,

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 1>but in Flint, the union heard that GM had also

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>agreed to meet with another organization called the Flint Alliance,

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>which the CIO and the UAW viewed as a company union.

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>So workers in Flint refused to leave the factories, and

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>GM asked Governor Frank Murphy to call out the National Guard.

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>There's also some suggestion that GM it looked like GM

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to abide by the promise to not restart

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 1>production until the negotiations were done. So after they contacted

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the governor, Murphy did not act the way that many

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>people would expect the governor to act during such an incident.

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>He actually supported the worker's legal right to unionize them

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>to strike, and he was really afraid that using National

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Guard troops to physically remove them would just lead to

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>people getting killed. So while Murphy did call out the

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>National Guard, their task was to keep a buffer between

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the workers on one side and gm GM security guards

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and police on the other. About twelve hundred National guardsmen

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>arrived in Flint on January twelfth. On February first, UAW

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>striker strategically took control of the Chevrolet Engine number four factory.

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>To do this, they staged a diversion, telling a company

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>stool pigeon that a strike was being planned at another factory,

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Chevy nine. Police and security guards from other plants, including

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:02.479
<v Speaker 1>Chevy four, converged on Chevy nine after hearing this rumor.

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Police threw tear gas grenades into the plant and women

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>outside broke the windows to try to clear the air. Meanwhile,

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>workers took over the real target of Chevy Flour and

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>another group from the Emergency Brigade locked arms across the

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>gate and stood guard. The governor called in an additional

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty two hundred National Guard troops, which surrounded Chevy four

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and nearby Chevy two, once again establishing a barrier around

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the striking workers and separating them from a force that

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>now included police, private security guards, sheriffs, deputies, and civilians

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>who had been deputized for this purpose. Chevy four built

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the engines for all Chevrolet vehicles, so this effectively stopped

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Chevrolet production throughout the company. At this point, the strike

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>was seriously affecting GM's production. In December of nineteen thirty six,

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the company had built about fifty thousand cars. In February

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen thirty seven, that number was only one hundred

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty five. The strike grew to involving about one hundred

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>thirty five thousand workers in plants from thirty five cities

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>in fourteen states. President Franklin D. Roosevelt urged GM to

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>start seriously negotiating. On February second, another judge, Paul Godola,

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>who did not have a bunch of stock in GM,

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>issued another injunction, this one to take effect in twenty

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>four hours, again ordering the striking workers to leave the factories.

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>He also fined the union fifteen million dollars. Thousands of

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>supporters started gathering outside the occupied factories out of fear

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that this injunction would inspire vigilantes or hired security to

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>try to remove the striking workers by force. It is

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>a random side note the governor actually did own stock

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 1>in GM as all this was happening, although that was

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>not known at the time, and since he was generally

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 1>on the striker's side, it wouldn't have had the same

0:32:56.920 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>connotations as Judge Black stock ownership even if it had

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>been known. This new injunction put the governor in a

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>pretty precarious position. He was required by law to honor it,

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>but he still really feared that doing so would lead

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 1>to a loss of life. This was not an unreasonable fear,

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>similarly to how businesses had thought the Supreme Court might

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>overturn the National Labor Relations Act. He also noted that

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 1>the Court had not weighed in on the legality of

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>sit down strikes, so he tried to delay. He made

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>some public statements calling the strike an unlawful seizure of property,

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>but he still didn't take steps to actually clear the factories. Instead,

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>he contacted the President again, encouraging Roosevelt to order GM

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 1>to the bargaining table. Alfred P. Sloan delegated GMS, negotiating

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>to Executive Vice President William Knudsen, along with representatives from

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the company's finance and legal departments. On the workers side

0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 1>was CIO President John L. Lewis, previously of United Mine Workers,

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>and UAW Vice President Wyndam Mortimer. The negotiations were held

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>in the office and jury room of Judge George Murphy,

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>brother of Governor Murphy, and Governor Murphy acted as a mediator.

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Murphy kept both President Roosevelt and Secretary of Labor Francis

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Perkins updated on their progress. Although Murphy tried to get

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Judge Godola to delay the removal of the workers. On

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>February fifth, the judge issued a writ of attachment which

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 1>ordered the sheriff to arrest all the workers that were

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>occupying GM buildings and to bring them into court to

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>face charges of contempt. But, like the governor, Sheriff Thomas

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Walcott had some serious reservations about doing this and he

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:47.720
<v Speaker 1>would only agree to do it if he were explicitly

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 1>ordered to do so by the governor. He asked Murphy

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>for National Guard support. Murphy, of course, was not going

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>to directly order him to do this. He thought it

0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 1>was going to get people killed. So Murphy informed the

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>judge that he thought they were really close to an agreement.

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>This was on a Friday, and the governor tried to

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>get everybody to just hold tight till after the weekend,

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>But by Monday, February eighth, GM and the UAW still

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.800
<v Speaker 1>had not reached an agreement. Murphy kept trying to reassure

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>everyone that one was imminent, and he was later quoted

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 1>as saying, if I sent those soldiers right in on

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the men, there'd be no telling how many would be killed.

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.320
<v Speaker 1>It would be inconsistent with everything I have ever stood

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>for in my whole political life. An agreement between GM

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:38.439
<v Speaker 1>and the UAW finally came on February eleventh, nineteen thirty seven,

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.319
<v Speaker 1>forty four days after the start of the strike and

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:45.399
<v Speaker 1>after zero people getting killed. Under the terms of this deal,

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the strike would end and the striking workers would stop

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>occupying the plants. Those plants would resume operation. GM agreed

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.720
<v Speaker 1>not to discriminate or retaliate against the employees for joining

0:35:56.760 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 1>a union or for having participated in the strike. GM

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>also agreed to start collective bargaining on February sixteenth, and

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>that bargaining was meant to address the grievances that the

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 1>union had presented to the company back in January. The

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.479
<v Speaker 1>union agreed not to implement any more strikes or work

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>stoppages while that negotiation was taking place, although it was

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>not officially part of the agreement. GM also announced a

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 1>pay increase of five cents an hour, and in a

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>separate letter, Nudsen informed Murphy that for a period of

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>six months, GM would negotiate only with UAW, not with

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>any other union. Strikers in Chevrolet Plant number four voted

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to have Roscoe van Zandt lead them out of the building,

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>trying to track down whether that five cents an hour

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 1>pay increase affected people who were being paid by the PEACE.

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:50.839
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, but there were people that were

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 1>not paid by the PEACE a lot of times not

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 1>working directly on the assembly line. So this first agreement

0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>between GM and the UAW was not one that addressed

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>all those demands that the UAW had submitted back in January.

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Some of those demands later became part of federal law,

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 1>including the Fair Labor Standards Act that was first passed

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:14.799
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen thirty eight. Others were demands that the UAW

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 1>kept working toward at GM and at other auto manufacturers

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>for years. They weren't things that were just quickly wrapped

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 1>up in a round of collective bargaining that started on

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:28.800
<v Speaker 1>February sixteenth, after the strike was over. Instead, this agreement's

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 1>major accomplishment was GM's recognition of the union and its

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 1>promise to participate in collective bargaining, and in that it

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>was enormously influential. It established the UAW as a legitimate

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:44.359
<v Speaker 1>union in the auto industry, and its membership grew from

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>about ninety eight thousand to nearly four hundred thousand in

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty seven alone, UAW started bargaining for workers for

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>many other US auto manufacturers, including Studebaker, Hudson, Packard, and Chrysler,

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:01.280
<v Speaker 1>and four years after the fleet at strike at Ford,

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the success in Flint also sparked an enormous increase in

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 1>union membership overall and a wave of sit down strikes

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 1>as people tried to get better pay and working conditions

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>There were one hundred and fifty sit down strikes in

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the United States in nineteen thirty seven alone, about one

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred of them in the area around Detroit, Michigan. About

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:26.320
<v Speaker 1>half a million workers across the country went on strike,

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:29.479
<v Speaker 1>and about two million joined a union between nineteen thirty

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>seven and nineteen thirty eight. These were not confined to

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 1>the auto industry or two industrial jobs. On February twenty seventh,

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty seven, clerks at Woolworth stopped working and took

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>over stores for a week, winning a twenty percent pay

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 1>increase and union involvement in hiring decisions. In March, workers

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 1>at four locations of the hl Green department store chain

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 1>in New York City implemented sit down strikes. Incarcerated people

0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>in Illinois and Pennsylvania went on strike as well, although

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 1>these strikers' demands were not met. In April of nineteen

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven, the Supreme Court issued a ruling in National

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Labor Relations Board versus Jones and Lachlan Steel Corporation, which

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>upheld the National Labor Relations Act. But over the course

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 1>of the year, public sentiment really turned against the proliferation

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>of sit down strikes. I mean the public had not

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 1>overwhelmingly supported sit down strikes in the first place, but

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 1>became a lot more critical. In the words of the

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Detroit News, quote, sitting down has replaced baseball as a

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 1>national pastime, and citter downers clutter the landscape in every direction.

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 1>In late nineteen thirty seven, a Gallup poll found that

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>about seventy percent of Americans disapproved of sit down strikes.

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Then in nineteen thirty nine, the US Supreme Court issued

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>a ruling in NLRB versus fan Steel Metallurgical Corp. Which

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>found that fan Steel had violated the Wagner Act, but

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>also that the the practice of the sit down strike

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:05.439
<v Speaker 1>was quote a high handed proceeding without shadow of illegal right.

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>So labor organizers largely moved away from sit down strikes,

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 1>but they have been cited as an inspiration for sit

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>ins during movements for equal rights. Yeah, when we did

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:20.240
<v Speaker 1>that episode, that sort of rounded up like the sip

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 1>In movement and the fish In movement and all of

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>those things. The first one that we talked about was

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the Alexandria Public Library sit in, which was originally called

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>a sit down strike. Also, we are not going to

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 1>try to recap Then the next eighty five years of

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 1>labor history. Well, there are lots of stories within it

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.880
<v Speaker 1>that we can tell at later times, and I mean

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 1>stuff that's been in the headlines within the last year

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>about everything from workers' rights to organize to like a

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.800
<v Speaker 1>big corruption scandal at the UAW. All of that is

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 1>out of the scope of this podcast. Thanks so much

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.400
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